1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Okay, we're continuing to celebrate the life of Shane morn 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: I look, I think it's he's the best cricketer I've 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: Tom. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: I was actually know that two thousand and six Ashes 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: series when it was just a dead rubber. It looked 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: like it was going to be a drawer and England 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: were just batting it out and it didn't look like 9 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: anyone was going to take out the game. And Warny 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: took six for England out and we needed to make 11 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: a certain amount of runs. 12 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: And I remember I was in Adelaide and I just went, 13 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm just jumping into. 14 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: My car, and they opened up the Victor Richardson gates 15 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: and they let people in for free, and people were 16 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: flooding in. Warny had taken six for it, and we 17 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: needed to make about one hundred and eighty runs or something, 18 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: and everyone was flooding in. 19 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Just because no one thought there was going to be 20 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: a result. 21 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: And I remember and Warny came out and he already 22 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: had a dart in his mouth and he was just celebrating, 23 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: just to have that power over everybody in the ground. 24 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: He just changed games off his own two fingers. You know. 25 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: It was amazing too, and says you and Maddie were 26 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: talking about it this morning, even if you're not a 27 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: cricket fan. I'm not a huge cricket fan. But the 28 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: love of what Shane warn stood for was just massive. 29 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: And you talk about the presence of a man, and 30 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: I saw him just before Christmas, and the solid handshake 31 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: and the hug of the embrace was I think the 32 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: effect he had on everybody. But he was talking about 33 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: how we'd sold the Brighton home. He had this new 34 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: five hundred square meter apartment that was being built and 35 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: this was going to be the next stage of his life. 36 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: So to know that he won't get to celebrate that 37 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 3: and enjoy that stage is terrible. But the guy would 38 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: fill a room without a doubt. If Warney was in 39 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: the room, you knew Warny was there. 40 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we were never close to Warny and we 41 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: always used to love to have a bit of a 42 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: shot at Warning with whatever woman he was chasing next. 43 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: But he would come on our show every now and 44 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: would and this was the thing anyone that interviewed Warne 45 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: would always look you in the eyes and he would 46 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: give you everything. He was amazing. So the last time 47 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: we spoke to Warne was his son Jackson had just 48 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: got out of SAS and we had a chat to 49 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the big fellow. 50 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: Then Shane Keith Warn. 51 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: Good to have you on, buddy. 52 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: How are you fit thee with us? 53 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: We've missed it, we've missed you. 54 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: We see Shane Warn from Afar sometimes and when you're 55 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: on the television and you're commentating and stuff like that. 56 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: But I think I think it was a bit the 57 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: same with you. 58 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: If I'm a celebrity, we've got to see another side 59 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: of you, which is no one's really seen that personality 60 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: of Jackson. 61 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: He is quietly spoken, very well, spoke a gentlem man. 62 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: We did ask him a big question though, warning when 63 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: he got out of SAS Australia about you. 64 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: I want I want you to hear his answer. I 65 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: could do it. How how would Shane go if he 66 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: did it? I don't think he would be able to 67 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 2: jump out of the chopper. I don't think he would 68 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: have actually gone initiation, the cardio and the lifting. You 69 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: might have got into shape. 70 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: He might now you're in good shape at the moment. Warning, 71 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean there could be calls now for the old 72 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: man to go over to Ginder. 73 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: Buying they can't afford me. 74 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: Mate, he could put you could put them. 75 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: You could put the no Spider Claws in as well. 76 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I mean I've been in the public 77 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: eye for thirty years. I started ninety ninety and it's 78 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 4: what is in our twenty twenty something. Basically in the 79 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: public eye for thirty years and from a twenty year 80 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: old to I'm fifty one now. I've got a lot 81 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: of different layers. You know, I've got a business side 82 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: of me. I'm a father, I'm obviously a sportsman, I'm 83 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: a commentator, I'm a business guy. So I've got a 84 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: lot of different layers. But it's shame sometimes that people 85 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: pigeonhole you and have this perception of what you've liked 86 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: because of a few things over twenty eight years ago 87 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: or something. So that's disappointing at times. But look, I'm 88 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: proud of my son. I think I would struggle with 89 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: the show. I think I'm only it's tough enough, and 90 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: you know you're training your butt off to try and 91 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: get fit for the show. But I reckon if someone 92 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: was yelling at me like that, I might yell back 93 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: and them. I don't think I aper I may stand 94 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: in the corner or something. 95 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Morning. 96 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: Now that you're out of the jungle, I don't think 97 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: we've asked you this, but can you tell us? So 98 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: what was part of the contract to go into the 99 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: South African jungle? Were you allowed to go out and 100 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: have a banger every now and then and have a 101 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: dart when you wanted to? 102 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: Was that part of the contract or what was going on? 103 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: Well? 104 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: I said to the guys, I said, look, what are 105 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: we going to do with the smoking? It's obviously an 106 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: issue because I don't really want to give up on 107 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: National Live TV six weeks in the jungle, I'll have 108 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: a meltdown, an absolute nightmare. So they were very reluctant, 109 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: and do you want to do it? That was basically 110 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: a deal breaker. Yeah, obviously smoking is no good and 111 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: all those sorts of things. But if I'm going to 112 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: give up smoking one day, I will. I didn't want 113 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: to do it on live National FEE. 114 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: No, No, it's a different sort of show. 115 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: I said to them, Look, is there a chance I 116 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: can have one? They said, Look, when we're occasionally you 117 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: can go out and knock on the door. You can 118 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: go back, sit under a tree and come back into 119 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: the pill. So yeah, I was allowed to have a 120 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: I can. 121 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Just imagine you with your legs crossed in the middle 122 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: of a South African jungle, just sucking bag of dart. 123 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, just grab it. What have I done? What have 124 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: I got myself in? 125 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: I mean the jungle was great fun. I'm made some 126 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: great friendships. It was a fantastic experience. That was a 127 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: wonderful show and it was good that people could see 128 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: another side of me. 129 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: We're going to celebrate the life of Shane Moarn today. 130 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: We're going to give Adam Gilcrest a call. Darren buff 131 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: Leeman the former Australian coach and played with Warning as well, 132 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: and Stephen. 133 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Milne was one of his best mates. 134 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: We're going to be ringing a few people throughout the 135 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: morning as well who were very close to Shane Warn. 136 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: One was a former Australian. 137 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Cricket coach and also played with Warning in the Australian 138 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: cricket side. 139 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Was Darren buff Lehman and I mean they had similar diets. 140 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: They did, they did, And you know what that last 141 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: quote that was just there. I like loud music, I smoked, 142 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: I drank and I bowled a bit of leg spin. 143 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: I don't have any regrets. You're right, they followed a 144 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 3: similar path. 145 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: He was a rock star, wasn't he an absolute rock star? Well, 146 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: let's give buff a call now and see how he's 147 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: handling out. It's given a call, mate, How are you, Boff? 148 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 5: Not too bad? Mate? Yeah? Not bad yourself? 149 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, not too bad. We just wanted to check him 150 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: and see how you're feeling at the moment, big fella. 151 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks many. It's been a crappy week and hopefully 152 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: picks up for obviously the family's involved and it's just 153 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 5: been a sad week for Australian cricket and the world game. 154 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: Can you tell us what was your first impression of 155 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: Shane Warm when you first met him? 156 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: Boff? 157 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 5: Oh, he drove a courtina, that's what I remember. I 158 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 5: loved the fag, loved to drink and for me, you 159 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 5: know that was that was you know, a ductor water. 160 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: So I've got on with warning quite well as you know, 161 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 5: it's been it's been a tough few days mate, for all. 162 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: And you know he's he's a leegend gone to as 163 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 5: soon as he's Rodney Marsh, so both the superstars of 164 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: the game. So yeah, my person President of warning was simple. 165 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: You know, I just saw, Wow, this is going to 166 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 5: be superstar the way bold in terms of the game, 167 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: and he certainly changed the game. 168 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: Boff. 169 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you were lucky to be part 170 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: of that era though? So? Do you think we'll ever 171 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: see somebody like him again? 172 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 5: No? No, it's only they made one of him. You know, 173 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 5: he's the best Bowl will ever play the game basically 174 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 5: in my view, and he just transcends the game, don't 175 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 5: He was just unbelievab what he did in the game, 176 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 5: on and off the field was he was full of 177 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 5: life and full of joy. And yeah, it's one of 178 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: those guys you wanted to be around, but he made 179 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 5: you smile. 180 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Can you can you give us a story boof off 181 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: field that no one would really know about? Did you 182 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: have a Caribbean tour or something like that? Is there 183 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: something that sticks out in your mind? 184 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: There's lots of things I could tell you, but I won't. 185 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 5: The simple one for me to room with him. He 186 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: used to love playing five hundreds, so we played five 187 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: hundred against Wick. He Ponty in steep but art all 188 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 5: the time. But when we toured Pakistan and India, a 189 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 5: couple of times, especially India. Yeah, you start, you like 190 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: room with him because they smoke. Guys smoke basically, And 191 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 5: the problem with that being was, you know, we have 192 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 5: cockroaches in the room and he wasn't a friendly man. 193 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: He didn't like animals that much, especially cockroaches in the room, 194 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: and he'd be on the on the bed. I'd be 195 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: whacking it with my thongs. So it wasn't courageous in 196 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: their regard. But you know, it's just the generosity of 197 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: the man. I mean a lot of people don't know 198 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: how much he did for charity, and I know it's 199 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: unheard of and unwritten and all that the goodness his 200 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: heart giving money and promoting charities and to the sick, 201 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 5: and yeah, it's just amazing, mate, an amazing human. 202 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: Where did you Where did you hear? Both way? Were 203 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: you who told you. 204 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: My phone was going back to about five in the morning? 205 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: Yep? 206 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 5: And what's going on? Because I thought it must have 207 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: been something to do with Rodney obviously organizing something there, Yep, 208 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 5: because I spent the week with Rodney and Bunderburg basing 209 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 5: the family. So I was a big worrying. Then I 210 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 5: just picked up the pie and went I said a 211 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 5: few explainers. I couldn't believe what was going on and 212 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: it's really attacking. I just thinking pretty to be perfect, honest. 213 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: Mate, it's yeah, it has been a sad day legend 214 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: of the game, buff and and obviously you were there 215 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: with him for a very very long time. So mate, 216 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: we really appreciate your time and saying a few words 217 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: on morning. 218 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: Buff. 219 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 5: No problems that, mate, it's. 220 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: We've been celebrating the life of Shane Warn all morning. 221 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Spoke to down Buff Lehman before and had some amazing 222 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: stories about rooming. 223 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: With Warning and going out for a dart every ten minutes. 224 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: You know, one of the great moments, too, Fits was 225 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 3: when you thought it would be funny to send me 226 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: into the South African jungle for I'm a celebrity. 227 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: Get me out of here. 228 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: And little did they know that people had done deals 229 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: with you know, some girls had makeup at Warning had 230 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: done a deal where he could smoke, and they allowed 231 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: him to smoke. So, but what they have outside of 232 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: the compound is a little hut. So I got taken 233 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: out the back to get my microphone changed. The batteries 234 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: changed on the microphone. There was Warning in the little 235 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: hut having a gasper. How are you holding up? 236 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: Mate? Pretty good, he said. 237 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: And I said to him, what do you think you'll 238 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: do on the first night out of here? And he said, 239 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: I reckon it'd be pretty similar to the night I 240 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: had before I came in here. And I can't repeat 241 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: what he did that night, but it was to do 242 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: with with the opposite sex and meeting some friends and 243 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: he'd had an absolute cracker and it was just it's 244 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: just so consistent. 245 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, shy about it. 246 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: He out of it. 247 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: He enjoyed life to the foros. 248 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: One man who obviously had quite a bit with Shane 249 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: Warn because he was the WIKEI keeper of the Australian 250 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: cricket side is the magnificent Adam Gilcrest. We're going to 251 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: give Gilly a call now and then I give him 252 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: a yell see how he's traveling. 253 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: Hello, Adam Gilchrest, how are you, Champion? 254 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm not too bad mate, obviously you've lost a very 255 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: close friend over the last couple of days. 256 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: I just wanted to see how you doing, Gilly May. 257 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 6: I'm like everyone made a bit numb. Just you just 258 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 6: don't believe it. You're larger than life characters, well like 259 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 6: Rod Marsh. I don't think you're going to pass, but 260 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 6: we had a bit of a runway for that one 261 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 6: after his unfortunate missap about nine or ten days ago. 262 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 6: But then to get there the kind of bricks thrown 263 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 6: on you with warning Jesus, but he did nothing conventionally 264 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 6: did he warn it? So we shouldn't be surprised. 265 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: Well, Gilly, we only really saw the headlines of the 266 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: rockstar lifestyle. But you were very close to him for 267 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 3: a long time as a mate, So can you tell 268 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: us a bit more about the man himself that we 269 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 3: might not have seen. 270 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 6: Mate, seriously loyal if he got in with him, He 271 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 6: didn't cut your drift too easily. Just brilliant, generous. So 272 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 6: I think people unfortunately that didn't know him really well 273 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 6: wouldn't understand how generous he was. But Mate, the wholelight 274 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 6: of my cricketing career was just a cheap wigret to 275 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 6: him sit behind the starm something heels and I we 276 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 6: exclusively kept that from the rest of the world for 277 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 6: twenty years. And how fortunate were we to sit and 278 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: watch the maestrat. 279 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 5: Work he was like it was like the Truman Show. 280 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 6: He was who was that director? Sitting up there directing 281 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: the Truman show up. 282 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: Yeah with the dashboard. 283 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Ed Harris was the actor. I remember, Gilly Harris. 284 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, bring on the rain, bring on the wind. Warn 285 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 6: he just bring on the wickets, bring on the evening. 286 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 6: Let's go out and have some fun. But what a legend. 287 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 6: And then the best part, well, the second best part, 288 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 6: I'll tell you to keeping to him was to then 289 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 6: at the end of the over, I got up and 290 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 6: I kept to Glenn McGrath warning, next minut first slip, 291 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 6: and I could talk from about what he's been up to. 292 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: If you know no such thing as a dull day 293 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 6: test cricket, I can promise you that, mate, What a 294 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 6: what a champion. The memories are all good ones, and 295 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 6: I want old jarp mate. But it is my wife's 296 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 6: fiftieth birthday this weekend and we managed to sneak just 297 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 6: the family out of a place that Warning loved and 298 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 6: had such a connection, which was Crown Christine. So we're 299 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 6: in Perth and we Melanie sipped in and put a 300 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 6: bit of money on twenty three read last night. That 301 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 6: was his roulette number, and unsurprisingly didn't come up on 302 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 6: the list of anyway we had a bit of fun 303 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 6: and we did it all in the honor of the King. 304 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 6: Got a legend. 305 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Long Live the King, Long Live the King. Thank you 306 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: so much, Gilly. I really appreciate your time. They get 307 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: back to your wife and wish you're all the best 308 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: from us and a happy birthday. 309 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 6: Good on you mate. It's been good to be able 310 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 6: to talk about him and it's a good friend and 311 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 6: thanks to the call mate. Appreciate it all. 312 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: Helps, Love you, Gilly, Thank you, brother, Thanks thanks Gilly. 313 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: You know what. 314 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: He was a big fan of the AFL as well 315 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: and loved the set Kilter Football Club. A lot of 316 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: close mates from the sin Kilter Footy Club. One of 317 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: them in particular Stephen Milne. They were really tight. He 318 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: looked up to Melanie, which was amazing. Let's give him 319 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: a call and see how he's holding up, Stephen speaking, 320 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: howm I. 321 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: Help you, Stephen Milne, it's how are you Milnie? Oh mate? 322 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: I know it's been a tough few days for you, 323 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: but as one of Shane Warne's best mates, obviously that would. 324 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: Have taken the legs out from under Milnie. When you 325 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: heard the news. 326 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 7: Ah, yeah, it was full on tits. It was a 327 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 7: long day yesterday. You still can't believe it, as Warnie 328 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 7: was just an absolute legend and even a better bloke 329 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 7: when you made him. 330 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: It was a long day, Yeah, long Milnie. 331 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: We got to ask though those famous poker parties that 332 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: he hosted. Can you tell us what it was like 333 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: when he was at home in his own environment? Oh? 334 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 7: Well, Warnie was just a special person. Every time he spoke, 335 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 7: you just listened and it was just always some happening. 336 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 7: There was no boring stuff about Warning. Everything that he spoke, 337 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 7: you listened. He laughed, he loved a good time, He 338 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 7: got right into it like that, competitive loved the gin, 339 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 7: loved a good time and loved the Saints. And that's 340 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 7: kind of how I got to know him. And it's 341 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 7: still still a bit real, still a bit surreal at 342 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 7: the moment. 343 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: So can you well tell us in your own words 344 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: what Shane Moore Shane warn meant to you, Milnie? 345 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 7: It was laughing, mega emotional now talking about it, you 346 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: love the go I want you to love your hero 347 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 7: and then you get to meet him another even better bloke. 348 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 7: You get this emotional life. Is this a genuine Australian 349 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 7: legend that? Yeah, very sad, very sad day in his 350 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 7: seal for book summer, all the kids, the family. Yeah, 351 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 7: so it's going to be going to be tough, but 352 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 7: I'm sure everyone will send him out on a good way. 353 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: Milanie. 354 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: I really really appreciate your time, mate, Thank you so 355 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: much for doing this. 356 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 7: Thank you appreciate it. 357 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: God, I would have paid money to be at one 358 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: of those poker tournaments. 359 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: He was a really good poker player as well. We 360 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time playing poker. 361 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: So your mind jumps to the kids too. I mean, 362 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: what I love to see and you know, it was 363 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: lucky that they got that time to share. Was you 364 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: know Jackson, who he had on the show after he 365 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: was on SAS and how close they'd become, you know, 366 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: as he'd turned into a man and at the front 367 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: of the GQ magazine not that long ago, and you know, 368 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: their friendship and bond and father and son was just beautiful. 369 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: So that was extremely special to watch develop. 370 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: Well. 371 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: The Shane warn documentary is a good opportunity to go 372 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: watch it. 373 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: His career in the way. 374 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: That his kids and his family talk about him on there, 375 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: it's an amazing documentary. 376 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: It We woke Saturday morning and the news had broken 377 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: the Shane warned passed of what's been described as a 378 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: massive heart attack. You think to yourself, how does that happen? 379 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a healthy looking guy. And on the 380 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: front page of the paper it says did a diet 381 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: claim Shane, basically suggesting the fourteen day diet and detox 382 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,479 Speaker 3: and the juices that he'd been on could have contributed 383 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: to the heart failure. So to find out more, we 384 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: invited doctor Ross Walker onto the show. Doctor Ross, how 385 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: are you mate? 386 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 8: Oh a little better for tuny to you? We're here 387 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 8: and hello Fitzzy, thank you. 388 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: For joining us, Doctor Ross. I mean, I suppose once 389 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: you start to remove the shock of what we found 390 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: over the weekend, you think to yourself, well, what sort 391 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: of condition am I in? So what is the likelihood 392 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: of somebody like Warning at age fifty two, which is 393 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: not old, to have a sudden heart attack. 394 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 8: It's not inconsiderable a likely And I see this all 395 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 8: the time in people who don't have the right sort 396 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 8: of checkups. They just go on with a life. Let's 397 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 8: look at the specific case of what happened with Shane. Allegedly, 398 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 8: he had some sort of chest discomfort, in the week 399 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 8: or so prior to his death. And there was a 400 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 8: study of twenty two squash players who dropped dead playing 401 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 8: Squashy one out of twenty two had told a doctor 402 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 8: or a relative in the week before they had chest pain. 403 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 8: The chest pain wasn't dealt with. 404 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 5: Chest pain is. 405 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 8: Always a medical emergency that needs to be dealt with. 406 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 8: That's number one. Number two, Chain did enjoy the cigarettes, 407 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 8: and no one should smoke. Smoking should be banned in 408 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 8: my view. And number three you mentioned the diet. Now, 409 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 8: I've seen a number of people have got into these 410 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 8: extreme dies because they wanted to lose weight rapidly. And 411 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 8: people don't realize this, but that little thing you've got 412 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 8: in front of your tummy, called your belly, a lot 413 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 8: of people have a bit of abdominal obesity. It's not 414 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 8: just an ugly lump of lard. It's also a toxic 415 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 8: reservoir that's held on to many of the toxic chemicals 416 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 8: you've been exposed to over many years, heavy metals, the 417 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 8: different plastics we get exposed to over the time, but 418 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 8: they sit there andert in that belly. But if you 419 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 8: lose that quickly, it just pours into the central circulation. 420 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 8: And I've seen a handful of people going to these 421 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 8: radical diets over the age of about forty going to 422 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 8: have a heart attack or a stroke because they just 423 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 8: get overwhelmed by these things. So when I hear this, 424 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 8: obviously it's a tragedy. Chain war was really most of 425 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 8: it in most of our cases. One of our heroes, 426 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 8: the way he played cricket, and he was Alaric and 427 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 8: he was a typical, quintessential Australian. But I wasn't surprised 428 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 8: at all when I heard it. I was obviously chattered 429 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 8: and disappointed, but it's the sort of thing where you 430 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 8: look at someone who say you're healthy, You're not. You 431 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 8: can't do that. I do a thing called currenty calcium scoring, 432 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 8: which takes a snapshot of the AR trees, and I 433 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 8: say all males forty five to fifty should have that, 434 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 8: all females fifty five to sixty. It's a CT scan 435 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 8: that takes a picture of your AR trees and the 436 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 8: worst calcium score I had so noting that anything over 437 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 8: four hundred is dreadful. This is a sixty eight year 438 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 8: old man in the fitness industry without an ounce of 439 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 8: body fat, normal cholesterol, blood pressure, never smoked, not diabetic, 440 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 8: no family history, but he has this genetic marker called 441 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 8: life approach in little A which is a simple blood test. 442 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 8: His calcium score a way for this was eight and 443 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 8: a half thousand. 444 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: What so he was about a guy at any time. 445 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 8: Doctor Rowy, he was. But he came in, we did 446 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 8: the test on him. He had bypassed surgery. That was 447 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 8: about nine years ago. He sent me an email a 448 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 8: couple of years ago with a picture of him and 449 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 8: his mates went in their latest basketball grand final. Wow, 450 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 8: who lived till he's one hundred? But had he not 451 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 8: had that picked up, he would have died. But also 452 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 8: had he been a profligate self abuser, if he was 453 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 8: carrying the weight, if he just smoked, he probably would 454 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 8: have died forty or twenty years earlier. 455 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Because doctor Ross, when you hear the stories where someone 456 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: might have a it might be an event like a 457 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: city to surf or something, and someone passes away from 458 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 3: a giant heart attack, a massive heart attack, and then 459 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: the study's done and there's a preconceived or predetermined issue 460 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: with their heart. When you take somebody like WARNI, that's 461 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: not the case, is that that's not an issue that 462 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: was undiscovered that Warnie would have had. 463 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no, no, he would have had that brewing 464 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 8: there while So imagine a donut with the hole in 465 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 8: the middle. That's where the blood's going through the archeries, 466 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 8: but all the fat is sitting there dormant in the wall. 467 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 8: Then you do something to stir up that fat. So, 468 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 8: for example, within two hours of you getting acutely angry 469 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 8: or anxious about something, you increase you risk for a 470 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 8: heart attack about eight times. You're poking the bear within. 471 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 8: There's work stress as well. Mental stress can do it. 472 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 8: Extremes of physical stress. I had a seventy eight year 473 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 8: old guy who thought it was a good idea on 474 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 8: a forty degree celsius day to play singles tennis ended 475 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 8: up with a stentony's arteries. But even excessive coffee, alcohol, 476 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 8: illegal drugs can do it. And in this pandemic era, 477 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 8: anything like covid, influenza, pneumonia, anything can inflame the archeries 478 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 8: and stir up the fatty parks that are sitting their 479 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 8: dormant in the wall. But they can then rupture suddenly, 480 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 8: which is what would have happened to Shane. Ruptured suddenly 481 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 8: a platforms you have the massive heart attack. You can 482 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 8: do that by going doing the city to serve. 483 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: When should we go and get these tastes up there, 484 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: or should anyone go get it at any age or 485 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: when we hit forty. 486 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 8: Or look, if you've got a strong family history, and 487 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 8: I've got a thirty two year old patient, female patient 488 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 8: whose father died at thirty one of a heart attacks, 489 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 8: it's called familial hypercholesterolemia, where her cholesterols twelve and I 490 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 8: did a COUNCILM score on her already quite high. I'm 491 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 8: hammering her with treatment because if she doesn't take the medications, 492 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 8: she's going to die of a heart attack. 493 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Like a dad. 494 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 8: Yes, for those of us who don't have major risk 495 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 8: BacT is, our cholesterol's a okay bloodish are right, never smoke, 496 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 8: not diabetic, and no great family history. So if someone 497 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 8: in your families had a heart attack before about age seventy, 498 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 8: I'd be going off, say in your forties and getting 499 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 8: this done. But for typically males forty five to fifty, 500 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 8: females fifty five to sixty, it's a very simple test, 501 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 8: no die, no injections. That costs about one hundred and 502 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 8: fifty dollars and it takes ten minutes. It's no big deal. 503 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 8: It just takes a picture of the archies and it 504 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 8: can tell you whether you're at high risk or at 505 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 8: low risk. 506 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: And that's amazing what you say also about stress and 507 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: just the impact and the likelihood and how you well, 508 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: the chance is the heart attacker hell of a lot higher. 509 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 8: Oh no, no doubt. Stress is the great precipitate by 510 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 8: itself doesn't do anything, but it's the great Precipitent's the 511 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 8: thing that rips open arteres or can precipitate a cancer 512 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 8: to get there. And I've been practicing medicin guys for 513 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 8: about forty years. I've never seen one person in that 514 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 8: time who had a heart attack, stent bypass stroke or 515 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 8: whatever who wasn't under some sort of stress at the time. 516 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 8: It doesn't have to be emotional stress, can be any 517 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 8: distress or. 518 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: As I'd mentioned, Yeah, well do we know, we know 519 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: how leasy you are. We really appreciate your time, sir, 520 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on the show. 521 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 8: Always great to talk to you guys. 522 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 6: Thanks and Whipper