Speaker 1: Live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2: This is to Nika Degeorgio, Hello and welcome to the
Speaker 2: show coming up tonight. The political elites and left wing
Speaker 2: media don't want you to have a debate on migration.
Speaker 2: Wait till you hear the attacks on Liberal MP Andrew Hasty.
Speaker 2: Plus what a strange country we live in when even
Speaker 2: the Sex Discrimination Commissioner doesn't seem to understand the basic
Speaker 2: biology of the sexes. And less than forty eight hours
Speaker 2: after albow selfie with Donald Trump, the US President hits
Speaker 2: our pharmaceutical industry with a one hundred percent tariff. But
Speaker 2: first tonight, I fear we will never be able to
Speaker 2: have an adult conversation about migration in this country. The
Speaker 2: political elites and the left wing media don't want you
Speaker 2: to have this conversation. It does not fit with the
Speaker 2: left's narrative, no matter the costs to everyday Ozzie's and
Speaker 2: of course when you do raise it, you're tarnished as
Speaker 2: some sort of right wing nut job. Now, I was
Speaker 2: astonished at the sheer hypocrisy by tel Allegra Spende yesterday.
Speaker 2: She is the member for one of the most affluent
Speaker 2: electorates in this country. Wentworth in Sydney's Eastern suburbs, which
Speaker 2: has avoided the.
Speaker 3: Pressure of mass migration.
Speaker 2: Yet she claims, quote, the debate around immigration is being
Speaker 2: abused and weaponized. Australian citizens have always decided our immigration
Speaker 2: policy and for many years all sides of politics agreed
Speaker 2: on a non discriminatory policy shaped by our national interests
Speaker 2: rather than prejudice. Well, this is an absolute load of
Speaker 2: nonsense because nobody, nobody ever voted.
Speaker 3: For a big Australia. Yet here we are living in
Speaker 3: a big Australia.
Speaker 2: Multiculturalism and mass migration have in fact act being thrust
Speaker 2: upon us by both sides of politics, with no room
Speaker 2: for debate about the sort of country we want to become.
Speaker 2: The Till then went on to claim that disturbing echoes
Speaker 2: of the racist division of the past have crept into
Speaker 2: the political mainstream and there it is the r word racism.
Speaker 2: And this is exactly why the left don't want you
Speaker 2: to have this debate.
Speaker 3: They don't care about.
Speaker 2: Your concerns about mass migration in Australia. They care more
Speaker 2: about the people we are bringing in on a daily basis.
Speaker 3: The biggest threat.
Speaker 2: To this country is the elites and powerful voices who
Speaker 2: want to downplay our values and way of life under
Speaker 2: the guise of healthy and sustainable multiculturalism. In fact, politicians
Speaker 2: across the divide have quite literally killed off the Great
Speaker 2: Australian dream through reckless policies like immigration and net zero,
Speaker 2: while retreating from debate out of fear of being tortured
Speaker 2: with the R word. So thank goodness for Liberal MP
Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty. In a social media post this week called
Speaker 2: the Real Reason you can't afford the Home, He said, quote,
Speaker 2: we are starting to feel like strangers in our own home.
Speaker 2: Labor talk about a housing supply crisis, but this is
Speaker 2: a housing demand crisis driven by unsustainable immigration.
Speaker 3: It's that simple. Yet a legraspender.
Speaker 2: Demonized him, likening him to a British white supremacist in of.
Speaker 4: Powell, who was a white supremacist in Britain in his
Speaker 4: famous Rivers of Blood speech, used the expression you know,
Speaker 4: we're starting to you know, where that people were made
Speaker 4: strangers in their own country. And this language from Andrew
Speaker 4: Hasty certainly reflects, either intentionally or unintentionally, some of the
Speaker 4: language of that very famous speech.
Speaker 2: Now, these are not far right views, nor are they
Speaker 2: extreme views.
Speaker 3: In fact, the same expression was.
Speaker 2: Used recently by UK Prime Minister Kirstamer, one of the wokest,
Speaker 2: most left wing politicians of our time.
Speaker 1: Now in a diverse nation like ours, and I celebrate
Speaker 1: that these rules become even more important. Without them, we
Speaker 1: risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that
Speaker 1: walks forward together.
Speaker 2: The reality is Andrew Hasty is not wrong, and good
Speaker 2: on him for having the courage and conviction to say
Speaker 2: it like it is.
Speaker 3: Allegra loves migration because it doesn't apply to her.
Speaker 2: According to the twenty twenty one census, of the one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty six thousand residents in the electorate of Wentworth,
Speaker 2: almost fifty eight percent of the electorate was born in Australia,
Speaker 2: followed by England on seven point three percent and South
Speaker 2: Africa at three point nine percent. Hardly an example of
Speaker 2: diversity when you compare it to say Blaxland in the
Speaker 2: southwest of Sydney. Of the more than one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty eight thousand residents there, forty three percent are born
Speaker 2: in Australia, eight percent in Vietnam, six point six percent
Speaker 2: in China and six percent in Lebanon, While Blaxland has the.
Speaker 3: Biggest Arabic speaking.
Speaker 2: Community in Australia, so the Champagne teal in Wentworth has
Speaker 2: a clear majority of Australian born citizens, therefore lacking in
Speaker 2: the need for infrastructure and housing to keep up with
Speaker 2: the demand of mass migration. I mean, how would Allegra
Speaker 2: feel about migrants being parachuted into the million dollar homes
Speaker 2: and high rise towers in her electric Perhaps Oh, wait,
Speaker 2: poor migrants can't afford it, and gee, the West could
Speaker 2: surely do with some reprieve. Almost three out of four
Speaker 2: people in Western Sydney want less migration to help free
Speaker 2: up more housing. Now we know more than one point
Speaker 2: one million migrants have come into this country since Labour
Speaker 2: was elected. In fact, March this year saw massive immigration numbers.
Speaker 2: Net overseas migration was one hundred and ten thousand, well
Speaker 2: above recent averages. And the issues that Andrew Hasty is
Speaker 2: talking about are everyday issues, worrying everyday people, especially in
Speaker 2: the middle of a cost of living crisis. It's not
Speaker 2: racist to have a conversation about mass migration when our
Speaker 2: housing and infrastructure is under pressure. It's not racist to
Speaker 2: have the conversation when every day Aussies are locked out
Speaker 2: of the housing market. It's not racist to have the
Speaker 2: conversation when the face of Australia has changed and our
Speaker 2: social cohesion is buckling.
Speaker 3: And look, the Public Broadcaster was just as bad.
Speaker 2: Their headlined today Andrew Hasty taunted overclaim that higher immigration
Speaker 2: is making Australians strangers.
Speaker 3: In our own home.
Speaker 2: Over at The Guardian, they went with future Liberal leader
Speaker 2: or party disruptor Andrew Hasty and the rise of the
Speaker 2: Maga right, claiming that the wamp offers a divisive brand
Speaker 2: of politics.
Speaker 3: This is nothing more than a political attack on.
Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty, and all because he dared to challenge the
Speaker 2: left's narrative. The Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke professed modern
Speaker 2: Australia must be strange to a Liberal party that stubbornly
Speaker 2: refuses to enter the twenty first century, or what exactly
Speaker 2: does the twenty first century look like for labor Because
Speaker 2: the current twenty first century Australia is anti Israel protests
Speaker 2: week in week out, flags of terror groups being waved
Speaker 2: in the streets, synagogues fire bombed and the Aussie flag
Speaker 2: set alight and the one time Australia fights back at
Speaker 2: the recent marches for Australia.
Speaker 3: Every day Aussie is a labeled racist.
Speaker 2: Perhaps if they'd rocked up to the march with a
Speaker 2: portrait of the Ayatola of Iran and enchanted death to
Speaker 2: the IDF, perhaps the Left would have had a more
Speaker 2: favorable and understanding position. But look alegra Spender can of
Speaker 2: course wipe her hands of the cultural tension that sometimes
Speaker 2: comes from mass migration because.
Speaker 3: It does not directly apply to her electorate.
Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty went on to say the Liberal Party will
Speaker 2: be in exile for a long time until we act
Speaker 2: in the interests of Australian people. That means getting immigration
Speaker 2: to a sustainable level. If we don't act, we can
Speaker 2: expect anger and frustration.
Speaker 3: We might even die as a political movement. So be it.
Speaker 2: What is the point of politics if you're not willing
Speaker 2: to fight for something? And this should be a vote
Speaker 2: winner for the Liberals. A resolved poll last week showed
Speaker 2: support for Pauline Hansen's One Nation has surged to a
Speaker 2: record high of twelve percent, particularly off the back of
Speaker 2: migration issues. The longer the Liberal Party equivocates on this,
Speaker 2: they risk ending up like the Conservative.
Speaker 3: Party in the UK.
Speaker 2: All but dead in the water and being toppled by
Speaker 2: Nigel Faraja's reform. Migration is a vote driving issue. Our
Speaker 2: values and way of life are worth protecting, and the
Speaker 2: sooner the elites and left wing media wake up to
Speaker 2: this the better. Now this week, the Prime Minister rewarded
Speaker 2: hermus and at the same time betrayed our values on
Speaker 2: the world stage when he went to the United Nations
Speaker 2: and recognized a Palestinian state. Johnny Mean out for more
Speaker 2: on this is the Shadow Attorney General, Julian Lisa, Julian, good.
Speaker 3: To catch up with you.
Speaker 2: We haven't yet spoken to you this week since this
Speaker 2: all unfolded in New York.
Speaker 3: So when I start.
Speaker 2: By asking you, how would you describe what the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister went and did on the world stage.
Speaker 5: I think this was an example Deniker of our shambalic
Speaker 5: foreign policy on display. You know, we have abandoned our
Speaker 5: venues and abandoned our friends by this decision. We're abandoning
Speaker 5: the only Western liberal democracy in the Middle East, the
Speaker 5: state of Israel. In doing this, we're abandoning our foreign
Speaker 5: policy traditions, which is that we don't recognize states until
Speaker 5: they're actually come into existence. We're abandoning a friend ally
Speaker 5: and security partner by at the very moment where the
Speaker 5: Hamas terrorist organization is still holding nearly fifty hostages to
Speaker 5: ransom in Gaza, while it is still controlling large parts
Speaker 5: of Gaza, that Hamas is being rewarded by the grant
Speaker 5: of statehood to the Palestinians. By what mister Albanezi has done,
Speaker 5: we've made it very clear that when we come to government,
Speaker 5: we will reverse this decision. And the reason that we'll
Speaker 5: reverse this decision is that you need to have if
Speaker 5: you're going to have a two state solution, and I
Speaker 5: support a two state solution. The recognition point comes at
Speaker 5: the end. It comes at a period after the hostages
Speaker 5: have been returned, after Hamas plays no further part in Gaza,
Speaker 5: after the Palestinian actors recognize Israel's fundamental right to exist,
Speaker 5: and after those important final status issues like borders in
Speaker 5: Jerusalem have been worked out. You don't do this now.
Speaker 5: All mister Albanezi was doing was getting pats on the
Speaker 5: back from other hard left leaders around the world. You know,
Speaker 5: the Labour Party used to talk about an independent foreign
Speaker 5: policy for Australia, but we're really having our foreign policy
Speaker 5: dictated to here by the left wing British government, the French,
Speaker 5: the Canadians, and by Labor party conferences that for fifty
Speaker 5: years have been having resolutions on this issue. Each year
Speaker 5: more and more anti Israel. So this is a sad
Speaker 5: time and it's a missed opportunity. You have to remember, Denika,
Speaker 5: Australia was attacked by the Iranian regime in at least
Speaker 5: two terrorist attacks that occurred on our shore. Why wasn't
Speaker 5: the Prime Minister at the United Nations proposing resolutions condemning
Speaker 5: the people of the Iranian regime. Why wasn't he there
Speaker 5: seeking support of like minded countries to bring the Iranian
Speaker 5: regime to justice for its sponsorship of terrorism abroad, its
Speaker 5: attacks on our country, and its human rights abuses at home.
Speaker 5: That's what an Australian Prime Minister should be doing at
Speaker 5: the United Nations at this time.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I just think this wasn't just a betrayal
Speaker 2: again of Jewish Australians, but also a betrayal of all
Speaker 2: of our values.
Speaker 3: To go and do this on the world stage is
Speaker 3: quite frankly embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this story exclusively revealed
Speaker 2: by my colleague Chris Kenny Last night, dozens of refugees
Speaker 2: from Gaza touchdown in Australia a week ago and were
Speaker 2: personally met by Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke at the
Speaker 2: airport Julian.
Speaker 3: This is astonishing. The Minister's had some sort of a
Speaker 3: private meet and greet with these people. Where is the transparency?
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's a good question, Denik. I think
Speaker 5: the Minister's got some serious questions to answer here. Why
Speaker 5: is he rolling out the red carpet to this particular
Speaker 5: group of people. Why is he failed to be transparent
Speaker 5: about it? And there's no publicity about this from him
Speaker 5: and no explanation from him as to why he's done this.
Speaker 5: And when you look at the government's shambolic record in
Speaker 5: relation to people coming out of the Gaza war zone
Speaker 5: or remember they first created a class of tourist visa
Speaker 5: for them to bring them from the Gaza war zone.
Speaker 5: There were real questions about the adequacy of the checks
Speaker 5: that were being made. Then they tried to create a
Speaker 5: special humanitarian class of visa for them. Apparently the minister
Speaker 5: was personally interviewing applicants. The whole handling of this seems
Speaker 5: to be not really about Australia's interest but about mister
Speaker 5: Burke's domestic political interests. And I think the government needs
Speaker 5: to come clean about what's really happening with the refugees
Speaker 5: that are being brought from the terrorist controlled Garza war zone.
Speaker 3: No, look, I completely agree. I mean why sweep it
Speaker 3: under the rug.
Speaker 2: You know there was no formal announcement, so that to
Speaker 2: me sends off alarm bells. We also know that Anthony
Speaker 2: Arberesi has bid for a seat on the UN Security Council,
Speaker 2: which will require him to commit hundreds of millions of
Speaker 2: dollars in new aid to Africa.
Speaker 3: Julian Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Has very publicly questioned the role of this body. He
Speaker 2: quite frankly hates it. Should we be backing it in
Speaker 2: for a seat at the table?
Speaker 5: Well, the coalitions offered its support for it, and I
Speaker 5: think people should remember last time we were on the
Speaker 5: Security Council, it was something that Kevin Rudd had put forward,
Speaker 5: but we were in office at the time it actually
Speaker 5: took place, and we did things like put forward resolutions
Speaker 5: lead the world in relation to the condemnation of human
Speaker 5: rights abuses in North Korea and the downing by Russia.
Speaker 5: Of the Malaysian Airlines flight over Ukraine which so many
Speaker 5: Australians were murdered. So it can be a body where
Speaker 5: it is very important for Australia to have a voice
Speaker 5: at and we've been on the body from time to time.
Speaker 5: But we shouldn't be sacrificing our foreign policy traditions, or
Speaker 5: our values or our friends in order to get there.
Speaker 3: No, Look, I think you're absolutely right. I've got to
Speaker 3: ask you.
Speaker 2: Is Andrew Hasty a threat to the Liberal leadership of
Speaker 2: Susan Lee.
Speaker 5: Andrew Hasty is a fundamentally important part of our team,
Speaker 5: somebody who makes a wonderful contribution as the Shadow Home
Speaker 5: Affairs Minister, and he's somebody that I believe will continue
Speaker 5: to make a very important contribution to the team. Susan
Speaker 5: Lee is our leader. We all support the leader in
Speaker 5: the work that she is doing at this time.
Speaker 6: I we've in.
Speaker 5: Her own words, got smashed at the last couple of
Speaker 5: elections and we're in a period now where we're reflecting
Speaker 5: on where to go. We're looking at the policies that
Speaker 5: we took to the last election and we're going through
Speaker 5: a process now with debating about you know, where we
Speaker 5: should go in terms of policies for the future. As
Speaker 5: we've said many times, our values haven't changed, but our
Speaker 5: policies need to. And so this is just the process
Speaker 5: that we're going through at this time.
Speaker 2: Are you bothered by Andrew Hasty being very public on
Speaker 2: issues like migration and net zero?
Speaker 5: Look, I think this is a period of time where
Speaker 5: you want to have debates in political parties with different
Speaker 5: people having a range of different views, and we've set
Speaker 5: up processes to say those matters and those policies will
Speaker 5: be well and truly settled before the next election.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we look forward to it. Julian, Lisa,
Speaker 2: good to catch up with you. Thanks so much for
Speaker 2: joining me on the show this evening.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: While we live in a very strange country where the
Speaker 2: sex Discrimination Commissioner seems to not understand the very basic
Speaker 2: biology of the sexes and A Cody does not stand
Speaker 2: up for women. In fact, she does not even know
Speaker 2: what a woman is. Now this week she spoke at
Speaker 2: the National Press Club, taking to the stage wearing a
Speaker 2: badge with her.
Speaker 3: Pronouns on it. She her and in.
Speaker 2: Case you're interested, so already as you can see there,
Speaker 2: it's all going very swimmingly.
Speaker 3: Now. She was asked about sex based rights.
Speaker 2: For women, and her answer was just as confusing as
Speaker 2: the assertion that men can be women.
Speaker 7: The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination
Speaker 7: against Women, so seed or is absolutely it's the Women's Convention,
Speaker 7: but in understanding as we have developed. It was signed
Speaker 7: back in nineteen seventy year nine, I believe, since it's
Speaker 7: been in force in Australia, it has also been interpreted
Speaker 7: by the committee that looks at the meaning and the
Speaker 7: understanding of each of the articles of the Convention. So
Speaker 7: that includes and its specifically said, it includes cultural, rationally
Speaker 7: marginalized women, It includes lesbians, It includes First Nations women,
Speaker 7: women with disability and trans women. So it absolutely includes
Speaker 7: all women, because that is who women are.
Speaker 6: We're not one version of women.
Speaker 2: Well where to even begin? We are not all one
Speaker 2: version of women. I mean, how many versions of women?
Speaker 2: Does she think that there is? Sex is immutable? There
Speaker 2: are two sexes, male and female. And look, that does
Speaker 2: not make me some sort of incredible genius saying that
Speaker 2: it is basic biology and basic fact. Trans women are
Speaker 2: not women, they are biological men. Fancy the sex discrimination
Speaker 2: can be not even knowing the very definition, and it's
Speaker 2: not the first time she's had some sort of fantasy
Speaker 2: about what a woman is. In the case of Giggle
Speaker 2: versus Tickle, where biological man Roxane Tickle argued he had
Speaker 2: injured feelings after being booted out of a female only
Speaker 2: app by founder Sal Grover, Council for the Commissioner Celia
Speaker 2: Winnett argued that the word woman in the Sex Discrimination
Speaker 2: Act included trans women. Now, being an activist for the
Speaker 2: trans community while being the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, while failing
Speaker 2: to promote a biological definition of sex based rights, makes
Speaker 2: you a total failure at your job and a Cody,
Speaker 2: in my view, is not up to the job if
Speaker 2: she cannot fulfill her very function of protecting women. Joining
Speaker 2: me now is Giggle founder Sal Grover so good to
Speaker 2: catch up with you. How many different versions of women
Speaker 2: are there? I mean the Sex Discrimination Commissioner named several.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, can I just say like brilliant,
Speaker 6: intrue like with you one she listed women and men.
Speaker 6: I mean, you can add anything in front of women
Speaker 6: as an adjective. We're still all just women. The moment
Speaker 6: you add trans in front of the word woman, you
Speaker 6: are talking about men. This is the problem with gender
Speaker 6: ideology is that they think that you know, we that
Speaker 6: we will picture a woman if they just say the
Speaker 6: word woman. And in some cases that's happened that they're
Speaker 6: right about that. So that's where they push it so hard.
Speaker 6: And that's why us on the other side pushed so
Speaker 6: hard that they're just men, like you, men can't be women.
Speaker 6: It's just as simple as that, like you, just as
Speaker 6: you said in your introduction, like they're just men. And
Speaker 6: so to sit there and compare First Nations women to men,
Speaker 6: it's actually incredibly insulting, Like does she actually realize what
Speaker 6: she's saying there?
Speaker 2: I just don't even think she does, and explain the
Speaker 2: background to us because she was asked at National Press
Speaker 2: Club about the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms
Speaker 2: of Discrimination against Women.
Speaker 3: What does it say and how.
Speaker 2: Does it actually relate to the issues at hand here
Speaker 2: when it comes to protecting women's spaces and rights.
Speaker 6: So the woman who asked her the question, Migihour, asked
Speaker 6: her a brilliant question, and it was basically about anacoding
Speaker 6: not meeting with women's interest groups that do advocate for
Speaker 6: single sex spaces and how this fits in with her
Speaker 6: obligations to seed Or. So the background on this it's
Speaker 6: complicated and simple at the same time. Basically, Australia has
Speaker 6: a Sex Discrimination Act because we became a signatory to Seedor,
Speaker 6: which is the Convention of the Elimination Discrimination against Women.
Speaker 6: It's a UN convention. It was created in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 6: We signed it in nineteen eighty three, put it in
Speaker 6: like enacted it in our law in nineteen eighty four. Now,
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty four, there was nothing about men being women.
Speaker 6: They never thought to mention it because of course they didn't.
Speaker 6: Who would. Cut to twenty thirteen when Julia Gillard's did
Speaker 6: amendments to put gender identity into the Act. Now in
Speaker 6: those amendments they never mentioned trans women. Once again, they're
Speaker 6: not mentioned. It's just gender identity is mentioned. Then cut
Speaker 6: to more recent times when Anna Cody has intervened ingogo
Speaker 6: Vy Tickle on the side of Tickle saying that men
Speaker 6: who claim for women are women, they should have access
Speaker 6: to women only spaces, and she's relying on Seedor for this.
Speaker 6: The problem is SIDOR is a UN convention. It has
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty nine signatories. For any changes to it,
Speaker 6: all one hundred and eighty nine signatories have to agree
Speaker 6: it has never happened. Men are not considered women under
Speaker 6: SEED or it is an utter lie to say that
Speaker 6: they are. There is one tiny sentence in one accompanying
Speaker 6: document that says and other status, and they are relying
Speaker 6: on that other status to be trans women slash men
Speaker 6: who claim to be women. If seed or intended men
Speaker 6: to be who claimed for women to be considered women
Speaker 6: in international law, they would have said it. They've had
Speaker 6: every opportunity to. They never once have. So at best,
Speaker 6: she is misleading the Parliament, the courts and the media
Speaker 6: on this specific issue. She's relying on Seedort. She is
Speaker 6: wrong about it. I'm also relying on seedort and part
Speaker 6: of my case because it hasn't happened where we are
Speaker 6: in breach of seedawt in Australian law, if we are
Speaker 6: including men as women. And as you said, she's not
Speaker 6: fit to be the Sex Discrimination Commission. It's why I
Speaker 6: think she should resign, not just because she doesn't know
Speaker 6: what sex is, because she is misleading three different institutions
Speaker 6: on what the convention that her actualies on says.
Speaker 2: Look I think it's just extraordinary as well that the
Speaker 2: Sex Discrimination Commissioner doesn't know what the sexes are.
Speaker 3: But it's just a.
Speaker 2: Basic function really of the job. It's astounding. Now, look,
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you this because it's been revealed
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty six people in New South Wales
Speaker 2: have changed their sex on their birth certificate without gender
Speaker 2: affirmation surgery.
Speaker 3: This is of course under self by d laws.
Speaker 2: Since July one, sal of those four hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: six men have changed their sex to female.
Speaker 3: Because the problem is it's that easy.
Speaker 2: But the point of this is that all of these
Speaker 2: men can now enter female only spaces.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a few things here. So first of all,
Speaker 6: Sitzan's Doe an absolutely amazing job in getting this information
Speaker 6: and so all credit to her for doing it. Second
Speaker 6: of all, so it is quite humorous aside from everything else,
Speaker 6: it's quite humorous that when these people go and change
Speaker 6: their birth certificate, the data on who does it is
Speaker 6: based on their biological sex. So it just goes to
Speaker 6: show there's absolutely no escaping biological sex. Then yes, to
Speaker 6: answer your question, yes, all of these men, So five
Speaker 6: hundred men in New South Wales can now access female
Speaker 6: in this spaceis to be honest, all of any man
Speaker 6: can because they can just claim it. The Sex Discrimination Commission,
Speaker 6: in my case, argue it didn't matter whether you have
Speaker 6: a certificate, whether you don't, nothing matters. They can just
Speaker 6: go in. It's just the claim that matters. But if
Speaker 6: they've actually legally changed it, they can do whatever they want.
Speaker 6: They have the upper hand. We have absolutely no right
Speaker 6: to say no to them as women if these men
Speaker 6: are in our spaces, and the only reason they would
Speaker 6: do it is to go into women's spaces. Because you
Speaker 6: don't need to change your birth certificate as a man,
Speaker 6: to wear a dress, to call yourself a woman, to
Speaker 6: wear makeup, to do anything you think a woman does.
Speaker 6: You can do all of that. We actually do live
Speaker 6: in a pretty liberal, free society where if that's what
Speaker 6: your expression is, have fun do it. But to go
Speaker 6: into a female only space, you're going to need the law.
Speaker 6: And so that's why they've done it, and that's why
Speaker 6: it's sinister and we're fighting back.
Speaker 2: I just think it's extraordinary we're here and this day
Speaker 2: and age, but yeah, we are, Sour Grover. Good to
Speaker 2: catch up with you, with you as always. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for joining me on the show this evening
Speaker 2: for coming up after the break. Andrew Hasty pause cold
Speaker 2: water on speculation he's got his eyes.
Speaker 3: On Susan Lee's job. All that and more with my
Speaker 3: panel next welcome back.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is my panel in New South Wales
Speaker 2: Independent MP Tanya Mahalik and former New South Wales Police
Speaker 2: Minister David elliott Ty.
Speaker 3: Do you both happy Friday? Let's speak in now.
Speaker 2: We're going to start with the Shadow Home Affairs Minister
Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty.
Speaker 3: He's been this week.
Speaker 2: Pouring cold water on any rumor that he's looking to
Speaker 2: take the top job from Susan Lee.
Speaker 5: Have a listen, look, I support Susan. Anyone who's speculating
Speaker 5: otherwise is being mischievous.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. I mean, David, I
Speaker 2: spoke about this in my editorial tonight. He's full on,
Speaker 2: front and center about migration. He's been talking about net zero.
Speaker 2: The Liberals haven't put forward any policy ideas, but what
Speaker 2: do you think is at the right time?
Speaker 8: Listen, I mean, I'll put one in for the for
Speaker 8: the army mafia.
Speaker 3: This guy's an.
Speaker 8: Army officer and decorated. He's a man of his word.
Speaker 8: He is not campaigning or agitating to be the leader. However,
Speaker 8: if it's if it's if it's called upon him to
Speaker 8: take a leadership role, he will be the first one
Speaker 8: to step up. And there's a difference. I know in politics,
Speaker 8: everybody thinks that you're out to night your leader. He
Speaker 8: wouldn't be. But there is no doubt in my mind
Speaker 8: that he's making sure that people know that he's got
Speaker 8: the credentials to be the leader. I think that I
Speaker 8: think there is a growing number of people in conservative
Speaker 8: politics that want him there. He certainly captures a demographic
Speaker 8: that we've lost and he could certainly bring them back.
Speaker 8: But having said all of that, I mean, we all
Speaker 8: want Susan to succeed and you know, and I think
Speaker 8: I don't think it's a it's a bad thing for
Speaker 8: him to be out there saying this is what I believe.
Speaker 8: I'm in the Liberal Party, So in the tradition of
Speaker 8: the broad Church, people might come back to the party
Speaker 8: as a result of him being there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's certainly, like I've heard talk back
Speaker 2: lines on two GB light up this week. Every time
Speaker 2: he speaks. The people out there are going he is great.
Speaker 2: What we need to get him in. But what do
Speaker 2: you think, Tanya, would it be appropriate right now or
Speaker 2: as David said, gives Susan le a go.
Speaker 9: I think they've given Susan a go and it hasn't worked.
Speaker 9: I don't think think the Liberal Party can afford to
Speaker 9: keep losing in the primaries as they are with Susan.
Speaker 9: There is a big shift happening in the Liberal Party
Speaker 9: and the problem they have is their voters are just
Speaker 9: leaving them. They're going to one nation, which is a
Speaker 9: huge problem. It's a huge problem for the Liberal Party
Speaker 9: when they're losing and bleeding to the right, and it
Speaker 9: has a ripple effect. It's affecting him at the state level,
Speaker 9: at local government level, and you only have to, as
Speaker 9: you say, quite rightly, listen to two GB go out
Speaker 9: there and listen to the punters. People are crying out
Speaker 9: for a new leader.
Speaker 3: In the Liberal Party.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry. Susan reminds me of the Jody MacKaye moment
Speaker 9: that the Labor Party had in New South Wales, Okay,
Speaker 9: and it was a big mistake for the Labor Party
Speaker 9: that it wasn't the right choice that actually went backwards
Speaker 9: when they had Jadie Mackay, and it's the same here
Speaker 9: with Susan lay. It is not the answer. They're just
Speaker 9: going to have to bite the bullet and negotiate an
Speaker 9: exit path for her. Now that may not be now,
Speaker 9: that may not be at the end of the year,
Speaker 9: but it's going to have to be in the next
Speaker 9: six months because they can't continue to lose ground as
Speaker 9: they have to the right. It is a huge problem.
Speaker 9: You've got tradees walking away from the Liberal Party, You've
Speaker 9: got men walking away, women have already left, and yell
Speaker 9: people down to eighteen percent votes for anyone under thirty.
Speaker 9: It's the Liver Party is a bad situation. And the
Speaker 9: question the Liver Party has to ask is can they
Speaker 9: continue to keep the status quo?
Speaker 3: Well they can't. Well, yeah they can't.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's the right time really
Speaker 2: for Andrew Hasty to put his hand up just well,
Speaker 2: I mean, was it the right.
Speaker 3: Time for Jamble? It's what about John Howard. He did
Speaker 3: it a couple of times.
Speaker 9: He took the reins and actually lost to Bob Hawky
Speaker 9: might recall then came back. I mean Tony Abbott had
Speaker 9: to take it a couple of times. Before he became
Speaker 9: Prime minister. That's what happens if you're a leader and
Speaker 9: you've got it in you and you can cut through,
Speaker 9: which I think Andrew Hasty can cut through to Look,
Speaker 9: I haven't come throughhaps I wouldn't want to stop him.
Speaker 2: Well, all right, look watch this space. I think he
Speaker 2: would make a terrific leader. And I really appli caught him,
Speaker 2: as I said earlier on the show, for having a
Speaker 2: stance to come out and be bold and be courageous
Speaker 2: on issues that people seem to be too scared to
Speaker 2: have a debate about light migration.
Speaker 3: But look, let's go to the US.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has slugged our two billion dollar pharmaceutical sector
Speaker 2: with a one hundred percent tariff. That means any sort
Speaker 2: of our product sold in America from October one will
Speaker 2: have to cop the tax. David, you know he was
Speaker 2: out there having a selfie this week Albo with Donald
Speaker 2: Trump didn't quite work. Snub twice on the world stage.
Speaker 2: Apparently they've got a meeting next month. What have we
Speaker 2: got to offer America?
Speaker 8: Do you think we have failed our relationship with the
Speaker 8: United States? And this is this is proof. I mean,
Speaker 8: there is no way that George w Bush and John
Speaker 8: Howard would have seen this sort of decline in the relationship.
Speaker 8: And when you think about the tradition of one hundred
Speaker 8: and twenty five years on hundred and fifty years of
Speaker 8: engagement between Washington and Australia, it's very very sad. I
Speaker 8: think that, you know, Kevin Rudd has failed us as
Speaker 8: an ambassador. The commentary that was made, and this is
Speaker 8: a very good lesson for young politicians. Be careful who's
Speaker 8: asked you kick on the way up, because there'll be
Speaker 8: the one you kiss on the way down. And what
Speaker 8: happened with with with Kevin Rudd and with Anthony Abernezi,
Speaker 8: the stuff they said about Donald Trump when he was
Speaker 8: down is now resonating around the echoing around the walls
Speaker 8: of the Oval Office, and they're giggling at us. They
Speaker 8: are giggling at us. So if I was the Prime Minister,
Speaker 8: I'd be going to a conservative. I'd be saying, listen,
Speaker 8: can you go to Washington? Can you take over our relationship?
Speaker 8: Mea Kolpa. We were disrespectful to the Republican Party and
Speaker 8: now we've realized because this is going to cost lots
Speaker 8: of jobs in Australia, going to cost labour jobs.
Speaker 3: Yes it is.
Speaker 8: This is going to cost working man's, working working class jobs,
Speaker 8: and it is exactly the opposite that what I would
Speaker 8: have thought that a traditional labor government would have done,
Speaker 8: particularly Post Off with them.
Speaker 2: Well, they've trashed the relationship. Kevin Rudd does remain the
Speaker 2: elephant in the room. They're not going to put the
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical benefit scheme up as any sort of bargaining chip.
Speaker 3: We're not going to left our defense spending, so we're
Speaker 3: just going to keep getting slugged with tariffs.
Speaker 9: Well, and it doesn't seem to concern alban Esi in
Speaker 9: the slightest. She seems to be pretty relaxed about it.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be up.
Speaker 9: To industries like the Australian pharmaceutical industry now to really
Speaker 9: actually start putting the boot back into albow, because it's
Speaker 9: all these industries that are copying these tariffs that actually
Speaker 9: have to ask the question, is alban Easy actually looking
Speaker 9: out for the interests of Australian industries. Kevin Rudd?
Speaker 3: Is he the right.
Speaker 9: Ambassad Of course he isn't. This is a by the way,
Speaker 9: this has been brewing for about six seven months. We
Speaker 9: know the pharmaceutical tariff has been on the table for
Speaker 9: at least since March in an issue, and two billion
Speaker 9: dollars is no small amount that we make from exporting
Speaker 9: ninety percent, I think, to the American market. So these
Speaker 9: companies are going to have to probably manufacture some of
Speaker 9: their product in the US to keep this sort of
Speaker 9: product being sold in America. They're not going to let
Speaker 9: go of that, let goal of the industries that they
Speaker 9: have they're the export market. But David's right, it'll cost
Speaker 9: jobs in Australia because people lose their job here as
Speaker 9: a manufacturing goes.
Speaker 3: To the US, which is the saddest part out of
Speaker 3: all of this. Now, look, bware home owners.
Speaker 2: More than thirty experts and economists have agreed that the
Speaker 2: RBA will be holding the cash rate at three point
Speaker 2: six percent. This comes after inflation, of course, jumped in
Speaker 2: September from two point eight to three percent. Look, you know,
Speaker 2: not great news if you're a mortgage holder.
Speaker 3: But I just think it's it's.
Speaker 2: A broader issue, David, that we are still in the
Speaker 2: middle of a cost of living crisis under this government.
Speaker 8: We certainly are, But the problem for the government is
Speaker 8: that anybody out of the age of fifty remembers Paul
Speaker 8: keating sixteen percent interest rates. So there's a lot of
Speaker 8: pain to come if they don't get this right. And ironically,
Speaker 8: the inflation figures this week were driven by the cost
Speaker 8: of renewable energy. But I was told that we were
Speaker 8: going to get separately try to hang on, So I
Speaker 8: don't know how that happens. And I mean, it breaks
Speaker 8: my heart to think that there are Sydney working families
Speaker 8: that can't afford their mortgage. It really does. It goes
Speaker 8: against the grain of anybody needed to come from a
Speaker 8: Western Sydney working class family. We just we lived for
Speaker 8: the day we made the last mortgage payment. It's just
Speaker 8: not going to happen. And I don't blame the government necessarily.
Speaker 8: I do blame to a lesser extent. You know, the
Speaker 8: wages hikes that the Union's forced upon the Labor Party
Speaker 8: when they in return for them backing them into government.
Speaker 3: I do not agree to them.
Speaker 8: That's exactly right. I know, I know, but they agreed
Speaker 8: to them with one hand behind their back. So I mean,
Speaker 8: I think it's also indicative of the attitude that the
Speaker 8: Labor Party has about microeconomic reforms, just not exist.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like they've cured off the great Australian dream.
Speaker 2: Of course, everything that they can't get their housing policy
Speaker 2: in order, immigration net zero has been a disaster.
Speaker 3: And now we're left of this situation and they're.
Speaker 9: Big spending in a seventy five billion announced for the
Speaker 9: renewable industry. And of course the RBA is watching this,
Speaker 9: watching this carefully. Jim Chalmers today has essentially put himself
Speaker 9: on the back that look, inflation is not as bad.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean putting himself on the back.
Speaker 9: It's extraordinary that he can't read the room. Because the
Speaker 9: RBA is airing on a side of caution because they
Speaker 9: are concerned that unemployments on the rise in Australia, they
Speaker 9: are concerned that energy prices continue to go through the roof,
Speaker 9: and they are concerned that the government continues to spend
Speaker 9: in a way that it's not.
Speaker 3: Controlling any any leavers in the.
Speaker 9: Economy at all right now, so I think the RBA
Speaker 9: has no option but to hold, and they will hold.
Speaker 9: All the economists agree that there's nowhere else for them
Speaker 9: to go. But the question has to be what's what's
Speaker 9: Jim Chalmers doing? What's alb and easy doing to support
Speaker 9: a potential interest rate cut down, the bound great.
Speaker 2: And government spending is at the worst level since World
Speaker 2: War Two, so it's just an absolute disaster. We've going
Speaker 2: to leave it there. David Elliott, Tania Mahale, good to
Speaker 2: see you both. Thank you so much for joining me
Speaker 2: on the show. As always, coming up after the break,
Speaker 2: the UK's Big Brother Plan forcing every adult to get
Speaker 2: a digital ID card, and our winners and losers of
Speaker 2: the week, including Sarah Hanson Young's tirade against Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Manhunt for Desi Freeman after two Victorian police officers were
Speaker 2: gunned down is still going a month on. It's one
Speaker 2: of Australia's largest ever police operations, but despite this, authorities
Speaker 2: have still not managed to locate the armed fifty six
Speaker 2: year old after thirty.
Speaker 3: One days in the rural town of Poor Punker.
Speaker 2: Searches and patrols have become the norm as police desperately
Speaker 2: look for clues. For more on this, I'm now joined
Speaker 2: by doctor Xanthe Mallett, criminologist at the Central Queensland University,
Speaker 2: Zanthy Good to.
Speaker 3: Catch up again.
Speaker 2: How surprised are you that this manhunt is still ongoing
Speaker 2: after a month is this rare good evening.
Speaker 10: Well, I had to expected them to find him early.
Speaker 10: But we have to remember here the terrain is very difficult.
Speaker 10: It's very bushy, very dense, and Desi Freeman knew it
Speaker 10: very well, so he was always at an advantage against
Speaker 10: those looking for him. It was going to make the
Speaker 10: aerial searches particularly difficult, for example, because it is so dense.
Speaker 10: So a month is a long time. But certainly the
Speaker 10: police will not be giving up. They will keep going
Speaker 10: until they find him.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that, because they were early on
Speaker 2: in the piece there was a theory that Desi Freeman
Speaker 2: had perhaps escaped to a bunker, concealed himself in caves,
Speaker 2: mine shafts or huts on Mount Buffalo.
Speaker 3: How likely are these theories?
Speaker 10: Well, that's certainly still possible because he was a prepper,
Speaker 10: remember as well as a sovereign sitizen, which means he
Speaker 10: prepared for the worst case scenarios. So it may well
Speaker 10: be that he had places that he knew that he
Speaker 10: could hide with cachets of potentially weapons, food, water, etc.
Speaker 10: And he may be able to stay there for a
Speaker 10: protracted period. So that is still certainly something they will
Speaker 10: be looking at.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned earlier, I mean he prepared, but he
Speaker 2: was also known to spend weeks on end in the bush.
Speaker 2: But even then, at some point, XANTHI, he'd run out
Speaker 2: of supplies.
Speaker 3: He would need help, right, yeah.
Speaker 6: I would think so.
Speaker 10: I can't think of any instances where somebody who's been
Speaker 10: on the run for such a long time and hasn't
Speaker 10: reached out to anybody. So at some point, I imagine
Speaker 10: if he is still alive, he will have to contact
Speaker 10: somebody for assistance. But he may be well prepared to
Speaker 10: last a few weeks, but I think after that things
Speaker 10: are going to start getting difficult for him.
Speaker 3: And give it, it's gone on for so long. What
Speaker 3: would be the police tactic now? Well, they're going to
Speaker 3: keep looking.
Speaker 10: You know, the lost two of their own. A third
Speaker 10: officer was seriously injured, so they may scale back the
Speaker 10: operation at some point because of resourcing issues, for example,
Speaker 10: but they're not going.
Speaker 6: To stop looking for him.
Speaker 10: But the problem they have is he could be hunkered down,
Speaker 10: somebody could be harboring him, or he could actually be deceased.
Speaker 6: If he's deceased, he's going to be even more.
Speaker 10: Difficult find because there won't be any sightings of him,
Speaker 10: but they will keep the small contingent on this going
Speaker 10: forward because they will keep looking for this man.
Speaker 3: And how hard must this be for police?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, two of their own word gone
Speaker 2: down and now they have to search for this man.
Speaker 3: It must be incredibly difficult.
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, but that's why they're absolutely so committed to
Speaker 10: catching him. They know that he is allegedly dangerous, he
Speaker 10: potentially has weapons because they were not at the scene,
Speaker 10: so you know, they have to keep looking because if
Speaker 10: he is still in this community, he could still be
Speaker 10: a danger to that community and other officers. Sovereign citizens
Speaker 10: hate the police. We know that, so this will be
Speaker 10: a particularly difficult search. It's a dangerous search, but they
Speaker 10: are absolutely committed to finding Desi Freeman.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, it's been interesting to see it all unfold.
Speaker 3: Xanthiy Mallett. We've got to leave it there.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time as always, Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: joining me on the show. Well, Anthony Arbaneazi as touchdown
Speaker 2: in the UK and is meeting with Prime Minister Kiir Starmer.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is News Corp Europe correspondent and Sky
Speaker 2: News contributor Sophie Ellsworth.
Speaker 3: Sophie, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 2: Well, look, I want to say Kira and Albow, they'll
Speaker 2: be in good company with one another, both lefties, both
Speaker 2: you know, this week living out their fantasies and recognizing
Speaker 2: a Palestinian state.
Speaker 3: But what can we expect from this visit.
Speaker 11: It's great to be with you, Janeka. Look, Prime Minister
Speaker 11: Anthony Alberanezi arrived here in central London last night Thursday
Speaker 11: night local time. It's now Friday morning here and he
Speaker 11: has a series of meetings scheduled for today. He's also
Speaker 11: attending a Global Action summit with some of the world leaders,
Speaker 11: including the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Karney. So there's a
Speaker 11: series of meetings on the agenda, including meeting with Sakia
Speaker 11: Starmer and also Conservative leader Kemmy Badenoch. So he's got
Speaker 11: a busy day ahead here, Janeka, in his first day
Speaker 11: of the three days that he is here in the UK.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think that ORCUS will be on the agenda, Sophie,
Speaker 2: I mean we know that it's being reviewed currently by
Speaker 2: the us KAS. Starmer has always been very vocal in
Speaker 2: his support of this agreement. Will that be a topic
Speaker 2: of conversation?
Speaker 11: Absolutely, Jeneka you would expect that would be high on
Speaker 11: the agenda. Look, both of these prime ministers are politically aligned.
Speaker 11: They share common views, common values, and they're really at
Speaker 11: odds with prime with President Donald Trump as we know,
Speaker 11: and issues such as recognizing Palestinian statehood. So it would
Speaker 11: be interesting to see what comes of today. But these
Speaker 11: are important meetings, particularly with Orcus expected to be high
Speaker 11: on the agenda.
Speaker 3: Now, look, I've got to ask you about this story.
Speaker 2: I was shocked to read that big brother Keir Starmer
Speaker 2: is watching quite literally every adult in Britain will require
Speaker 2: a digital ID under plans to tackle illegal immigration. You know, Sophie,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how this does tackle illegal immigration. Donald
Speaker 2: Trump managed to do it without a digital ID. But
Speaker 2: what's been the reaction over there?
Speaker 3: Wells very divided.
Speaker 11: Danika, the Prime Minister Secure Starmer is expected to announce
Speaker 11: this digital ID brit card.
Speaker 6: It's called that Will.
Speaker 11: The plan is to roll it out by the end
Speaker 11: of the decade, before the next election. There has been
Speaker 11: concerns that this is big Brother watching a UK residence,
Speaker 11: but they're saying that to have this card, it will
Speaker 11: collate everything into one basically identity card and make it
Speaker 11: easier for people who are looking for jobs. They can
Speaker 11: show this as an ID card and also when they're
Speaker 11: signing up to services. But there has been a mixed
Speaker 11: reaction and how will it stop illegal migration? Sekre Starma
Speaker 11: is talking today about how Labor has failed on tackling migration.
Speaker 11: So he's really changing the tone here because he knows
Speaker 11: that this is one of the biggest issues that Reform
Speaker 11: UK are having severe cut through in the British public.
Speaker 11: With the fact that the illegal migration issue must be tackled.
Speaker 2: Well, we're almost out of time, but I want to
Speaker 2: ask you about that because good news for Nigel Faraj
Speaker 2: and a new poll.
Speaker 3: Have a look at this from sky.
Speaker 12: UK in put to Reform UK on course to be
Speaker 12: the next government in nongel Fich of course to be
Speaker 12: the next prime minister. This is what the House of
Speaker 12: Commons would look like and the party with the most
Speaker 12: seats Nigel for Raw farrages Reform up to three hundred
Speaker 12: eleven seats, Sas up three hundred and six incredible result
Speaker 12: for them, one hundred and forty four seats for Kiir
Speaker 12: Starmer's Labor Party. That would mean them losing two thirds
Speaker 12: of their seats.
Speaker 2: Three hundred and eleven. That's extraordinary, Sophie.
Speaker 11: It is Denika. Now they've only got four MPs. In
Speaker 11: the House of Commons, there's six hundred and fifty seats,
Speaker 11: so they've got an awfully long way to go. But
Speaker 11: this is what is causing a labor and the Conservatives
Speaker 11: a lot of headaches because Reform is having to cut
Speaker 11: through with their tackling of migration and there's tough stance
Speaker 11: on this. So this is why Sekeir Starmer is coming
Speaker 11: out and making announcements in relation to migration, probably more
Speaker 11: than the otherwise would, because he knows that the British
Speaker 11: public are very concerned about this and all the polling
Speaker 11: is pointing to Reform as the ones that the British
Speaker 11: public are happiest with and that they want in office.
Speaker 11: But we are four years out from the next general election.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: People do want change and clearly reformers providing it.
Speaker 3: Sophiel's work. Good to see, thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 2: Well, it is that time of the week where we
Speaker 2: sought the winners from the losers. And helping me to
Speaker 2: do that this week is former Liberal senator Holly Hughes. Holly,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me. Now let's start
Speaker 2: with your winner. You've got South Australian Premier Peter Malanowskis,
Speaker 2: who had this to say about eco activists this week.
Speaker 13: Have a listen the eco purists that fill Instagram with
Speaker 13: screeds demanding an end to gas production, they should be
Speaker 13: careful what they wish for and for the rest of us.
Speaker 13: Are we going to let energy policy in our country
Speaker 13: be determined by the socials, well by the science. If
Speaker 13: there's gas out there, this is the time to get
Speaker 13: it out of the ground.
Speaker 3: And Holly, that's come from a labor premier.
Speaker 14: I know, I know a little bit controversial for a
Speaker 14: liberal to pick a labor state premier, but his eco
Speaker 14: purist speech was just fantastic.
Speaker 6: His support for the Narrabaye.
Speaker 14: Project, which I was trying to work it out. I
Speaker 14: think I moved to Mare about sixteen years ago and
Speaker 14: that was when they were starting to talk about that
Speaker 14: project and it's still not up and going. So this
Speaker 14: has been insane the roadblocks that were put in its way.
Speaker 14: But to see this premiere come out support Santos obviously
Speaker 14: from South Australia, but a new South Wales gas project
Speaker 14: was fantastic. But as you know, I was there all
Speaker 14: this week at Sky with the Lake debate and really
Speaker 14: sort of putting him over the top for me was
Speaker 14: We also did a story on these technical colleges that
Speaker 14: he is bringing back into force in South Australia, which
Speaker 14: is just fantastic for our youth. They're learning skills, it's
Speaker 14: a whole different approach to senior school education and really
Speaker 14: sort of boosting that pipeline. So I got to say,
Speaker 14: I think Maley had the week of them all.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, And you know what, good on him
Speaker 2: for actually just speaking out and speaking his mind and
Speaker 2: technically going against the other labor premiers across the country.
Speaker 3: So I think that's great.
Speaker 2: Now I had to give my winner this week to
Speaker 2: Greta Thunberg's flotilla.
Speaker 3: It's been an absolute shocker.
Speaker 2: Well, I'd think she's had many wins this week, I think,
Speaker 2: because well, firstly, the flotilla's boats were attacked by drones
Speaker 2: and communications jamming while sailing south of Greece. Activists reported
Speaker 2: that Abba music began playing through the radios at full blast.
Speaker 3: Apparently, Holly, it was lay all your Love on me
Speaker 3: for hours. I love that. Now, how could you complain? Well,
Speaker 3: why would you complain? I agree? And never party? I mean,
Speaker 3: I agree, I.
Speaker 2: Mean Greta dancing well God, but look now one of
Speaker 2: its activists has publicly come out as queer. He's accused
Speaker 2: his opponents of exploiting his sexuality. It's led to one
Speaker 2: of the coordinators resigning because in Gaza's same sex activity
Speaker 2: is criminalized. It's been an absolute shambles, Holly. But you
Speaker 2: know what, Congratulations Greta. You're my winner of the week
Speaker 2: because everything is just going swimmingly for you.
Speaker 6: So couldn't happen to a nicer person?
Speaker 3: Exactly? Absolutely? I agree.
Speaker 2: Now your loser this week is all Australians after Albo's
Speaker 2: woeful and pathetic selfie that he took over in New York.
Speaker 14: Well, I think Albini's trip, this, Alberdezi's trip this week
Speaker 14: has really just shown all Australians are losing out when
Speaker 14: it comes to our international relations. Not only was that
Speaker 14: selfie with Trump just bizarre, the fact that we saw
Speaker 14: that glorious coverage of French President Emmanuel mccran just getting
Speaker 14: on his mobile and calling up Trump going hey mate,
Speaker 14: I'm stuck because of your motigate. But then Albin Easi's
Speaker 14: speech to the UN could be sold to Spotify as
Speaker 14: a sleep aid.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was just absolutely appalling.
Speaker 14: I mean, at least most of the world's representatives had
Speaker 14: the good grace not to show up for it. But
Speaker 14: you know, when you've got the president of the largest
Speaker 14: Muslim nation in the world, Indonesia, standing with Israel, just
Speaker 14: know how wrong Alban Eazy is in his plea really
Speaker 14: for domestic politics around this recognition of Palestine.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: And the selfie was just cringe in itself, the big smiles.
Speaker 3: Please, Honestly, it was so fake.
Speaker 2: It was like I have to get this photo to
Speaker 2: prove to Australia that I mates with Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: That's what it was screaming. Now.
Speaker 2: My loser of the week was Sarah Hanson Young for
Speaker 2: her response to Donald Trump's UN speech.
Speaker 3: Have a listen, You've got.
Speaker 15: The president of the United States who gave an hour
Speaker 15: long rant at the UN unhinged. It's clear that under Trump,
Speaker 15: the United States has absolutely gone that shit crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh gee, Holly, talk about dramatic please, So can.
Speaker 14: I just tell you every now and then on your
Speaker 14: reflection I think of the bullet that I dodged not
Speaker 14: sitting on those opposition benches still, but when I was
Speaker 14: in the Senate, I would.
Speaker 6: I did shifts as.
Speaker 14: The acting Deputy President, which meant I sat in the
Speaker 14: President's share, and every now and then I would have
Speaker 14: to sit there during one of Senator Hanson Young's fifteen
Speaker 14: minute contributions in the chamber. I also had the pleasure
Speaker 14: of Marine Feruki and many others of which.
Speaker 3: You can make God poor, you absolutely painful.
Speaker 14: So I can't say that I miss hearing those tones
Speaker 14: and the rubbish that comes out of any of those
Speaker 14: Green senator's mouths. And of course she has been the
Speaker 14: Queen of Sunce in the past.
Speaker 2: We've got to go, We've got to go. But you look,
Speaker 2: you're absolutely spot on. I think your dodged a bullet
Speaker 2: in that sense. I totally agree. Holy Hughes, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for joining me. Good to see you have
Speaker 2: a great weekend. Thank you for your company.
Speaker 3: I'll be back at seven pm on Sunday for denekro
Speaker 3: and James. Stay tuned.
Speaker 2: Caroline Marcus is up next, filling in for Steve Price.