WEBVTT - Sharri | 14 July 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:03.239 Live on Sky News. 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.800 This is Sharry Good Evening again. Welcome to the show. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.959 I'm Danikiti, Giorgio filling in this week for Sharry Markson 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.760 Coming up on the show tonight, The Prime Minister's word 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.840 salads as he acts as an apologist for China on 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.040 the world stage. Now wonder the US wants to clarify 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.000 our alliance. Shadow Minister for Defense Industry just at Nampajim 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.880 for Price will join us. The secret's out Treasury documents 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:32.080 accidentally leaked in an embarrassing bungle, but Jim Chalmers says 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.600 he's pretty relaxed about it. Pauline Hansen will have her say. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.640 Liberal Party, conservatives and moderates warring over pre selection. Will 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.800 this party ever unify and rebuild? Ray Hadley to come 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.520 on that and a cascade of failings. It's been one 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.760 year since the attempted assassination on. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:51.960 Donald Trump's life. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.800 Will unpack a new report into the Secret Services stuff up. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.880 But first tonight, what is the purpose of Anthony alban 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.880 on the world stage. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:03.760 It's seriously difficult. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.200 To understand what he stands for, who he represents, and 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.960 where his allegiances lie. Have a look at this for example, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.760 he's in China and is standing in front of three flags, 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.720 the Australian flag, the Aboriginal flag and the Torres Strait 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.959 Island of flag. What a bizarre image that is, the 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.520 leader of the country goes to another country and stands 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.720 in front of three flags. I mean, why not just 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:34.920 one our flag the Australian flag. Who does he stand for? Well, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:39.080 it certainly doesn't seem like it's Australia. In fact, Anthony 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.680 Albernizi has started acting as an apologist for China, darting 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.640 around any and all topics that involve Australia's greatest strategic 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.480 threat through word salads and unclear positions. I mean, he 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.600 may as well be Kamala Harris. Now tomorrow the Prime 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.800 Minister will meet with President Shijing Ping and Premier Lee 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.320 in Beijing. Of course, there are no meetings scheduled with 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.240 the US president, but this will be his fourth with China. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.760 Perhaps this is why the PMS seem to have nothing 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.560 to say about anything today except for some of his 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:16.079 favorite tried and tested topics China, climate change, steel and 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:16.720 iron ore. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.320 We know that Steele is the backbone of the modern economy, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.360 but we also know that we need to decarbonize these 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.240 processes if we are going to successfully deal with the 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.880 challenge of climate change, but also the opportunity that it represents. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.720 But God forbid, don't ask him anything about Beijing's human 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.519 rights and security records. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.079 We disagree where we must and we put forward our 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:51.280 position clearly. Where we have disagreements, we do that in 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.320 a way that is consistent with the appropriate way to 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.200 engage internationally. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:59.240 So we do that. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:05.240 Clearly, unequivocally, each and every time. And this is a 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.040 relationship though that's very important for Australia. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.480 Well, the ALP talking points were not quite committed to 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.880 memory yet for that word salat now while our PM 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.480 is in China, the ADF for watching for Chinese spy 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.960 ships as Australia hosts its largest military exercise, Talisman Saber. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.280 But don't ask him about that one either. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.720 That would be nothing unusual that has happened in the past. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.760 And I'll continue to assert Australia's national interest as I do. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.680 Yess what could possibly be unusual about Beijing collecting intelligence? 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.880 It's all very above board, all very normal. Nothing to 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:44.520 see here. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.000 I mean, China has been conducting training runs for invading Taiwan, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.600 and it's sending spy ships here off our coast to 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.240 gather as much information about the strengths, weaknesses, and vulnerabilities 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.960 in our military systems and those of the United States. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.920 But no, that's not unusual, just like it wasn't unusual 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.760 apparently when Beijing conducted live fire drills off our coast. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.280 Is it's time to take us down to against China 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.040 publicly against about their actions. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.560 Well, it's important as well, and Defense have confirmed that 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:22.200 China did comply with the international law, and that's important 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.520 to not suggest that that wasn't the case. Well, this 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:34.320 is activity that has occurred in m waters consistent with 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:39.679 international law. The notification has occurred. It was a Vergin 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.160 pilot that alerted Australia about the Chinese Li Fi exercise, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:48.480 rather than Defense. The Australian Defense were certainly. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:50.080 Aware. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.840 I mean, the CCP could literally be on our land, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.440 invading us, and the Prime Minister would release a statement 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.719 saying there is just nothing unusual about it. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.240 Then asked about whether he. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.640 Would raise the issue of the Port of Darwin with 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:04.240 President she. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:10.279 I will be if it's raised. Our positions very clear 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.120 and I'm sure that the presidents are very clear and 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:15.839 is knowledgeable of that. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.080 Well, is it still Labour's intention to return it to 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.120 Australian hands from a Chinese company. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.120 I mean, he can't even bring himself to say it. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.400 He will only raise it if it's raised by Communist 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.520 master Shijing Ping. And while we are at it best 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.920 not to raise the issue of the United States either, 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.479 because the Prime Minister doesn't have a position on that either. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.360 Does it frustrate you that while you're here we're getting 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.279 stories leaked out of the Pentagon. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.120 Which I'm very focused on my purpose of being here. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.719 Well, I mean the Pentagon Chief Elbridge Colby is demanding 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:51.040 Australia pre commit US supplied submarines to a potential American 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.279 war with China. He's also asking whether Australia would help 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.400 the US to defend Taiwan in the event of any 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.520 conflict with China. America is looking for a return on investment, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.680 but Albo is focused on one thing. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.440 Are we any closer to locking in a time with 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:12.560 President Trump for a meeting? I'm focused here in China. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.119 I've been to China twice. Tony Abbott visited Beijing before 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:21.080 he visited Washington. After his election, as did Malcolm Fraser, 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.720 as did Kevin Rudd. So I think there just needs 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.239 to be a little bit of perspective here as much 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.920 as you know, I understand the fascination which is there. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.760 Well, look, I'm glad he brought up those former prime ministers. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.680 Tony Abbott met then President Barack Obama in the White House, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.839 Kevin Rudd met Barack Obama in the Oval Office, and 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.320 Malcolm Fraser met President Jimmy Carter at the White House. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:54.839 All have done what Anthony Albanezi has not. Even King 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.920 Charles has managed to score a meeting with Donald Trump 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.040 when the President visits Britain in September. And there really 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.599 is no point asking the Prime Minister anything because he 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.320 doesn't have a. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.000 Position, or he just simply doesn't know. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.880 He's focused on China while the relationship with our number one. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.560 Ally is crumbling. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.080 But have a lesson at the shift in Ton when 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.800 the Prime Minister is asked about the war in Ukraine. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:26.240 We have a strong position on support for Ukraine and 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:31.160 against the illegal and immoral invasion by Russia. That's an 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.000 example of where conflict leads to economic costs, not just 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:39.200 humanitarian costs. The biggest cost, of course and concern there 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:45.080 is the devastation that has been caused for innocent Ukrainian civilians. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.000 Well, good to know the Prime Minister found a strong 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.800 position on something today. He is more than willing to 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.040 support a democratic country like Ukraine when it's attacked by 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.200 communist Russia, but doesn't have a position when it comes 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.600 to democratic countries at stake communist China, including our own. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.480 So g wouldn't it be great if the Prime Minister 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.280 took on his own advice. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.520 At the end of the day, Poplar relations are so. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:16.400 Important exactly, and that is the most sense he's made 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:22.480 all day, person to person relations. Now, it's important moments 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.520 like these on the world stage that make all break leaders. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.240 The Prime Minister is so weak on so many topics 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.120 he just can't answer or he is just too scared 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.640 to and he hesitates on anything that has not been 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.280 prescripted in advance by labor. This is a leader of 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.800 our country refusing to exert any authority on Communist China 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.880 while alienating our number one ally. Instead, he opts to 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.760 be a spectator on the world stage. Now, if Albaneze 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.240 was playing in the A League, he would have been 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.360 subbed out to the reserves a long time ago, or 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:54.479 subbed out altogether. 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.839 He's a weak player who doesn't know where his allegiances lie. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.560 Ask again, what is the purpose of Anthony Alberinizi on 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:10.520 the world stage. Joining us now is Lisa Goddard from 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:15.840 a Dony Media and Sky News contributor Joe Hilda brand Hi. Hello, good, 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.280 good to have you both. Got nice to see you both. Now, look, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.040 I want to start off with the Prime Minister today, Lisa, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:22.959 as I've just outlined there in your view, did the 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:27.880 Prime Minister have anything to say about anything today? 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.680 No, I think you summed it up very nicely there, Danika. Look, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.920 he basically stood there. He must have known you have 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.200 to anticipate the types of questions that you're going to get, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.240 and he just simply was not prepared for them. He's 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.760 over there thinking he's on some spooking tour to promote 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.600 tourism and to talk about and the mineral's coming out 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.160 of this country. But he's not actually prepared to answer 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.600 the tough questions. And the journalists really need to start 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.360 putting the pressure on him and asking them the really 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.439 hard questions and watch him squirm even more, because that's 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.160 the only way we're going to get this Prime Minister 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.720 to actually stand up and start giving us some serious 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.160 responses about what is it in talking to China about 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.959 in relation to tariffs? When's he going to give us some 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.320 answers around Trump. We're just not getting anything from Melbourne 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:06.959 easy at all. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.640 No, I conplately agree, Mum, Well you know, Joe. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.559 Look, I mean, as I mentioned, he was asked about 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.120 the Port of Darwin and that is a big one heah, 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.119 particularly from Chinese ownership. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:21.280 The Prime Minister brushed. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.920 Aside criticisms as well as an influential Chinese bloggers warning 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.800 that any sale of the port would lead to serious 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:27.920 repercussions from China. 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.360 Have listened to what he said about that. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.760 If it's raised, our positions very clear, and I'm sure 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:38.679 that the president's very clear and is knowledgeable of that. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.280 I'll have a discussion with the President. I'll treat him 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.720 with the respect that I would any leader of another country. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.480 It's not about being disrespectful. This is what I don't 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.800 think that the Prime Minister understands Joe. But the point 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.959 is he's saying, well, if President she brings it up, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.480 then if he raises it. Why is he so scared 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:57.720 to raise these issues himself? 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.320 Because it's something that we can just do and if 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.520 China has a problem with it, then they would raise 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.680 it with us, and so that is the right thing 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.160 to do. You don't go you're not going to australis. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.560 He's not going to walk up to China in China 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.800 in Beijing and have our Prime Minister to say to 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.920 their president, who is a thousand times more powerful, haha, 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.600 we're going to take your port off you. We're going 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.600 to take your point like that's not how the plomacy 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.000 works Australia. And he's not going to beat his chest 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.920 about doing it while he's over there. Because we want 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.560 to get things out of China. We want them to 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.480 deliver stuff to us, like for example, their tourists. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.199 Should demand respect from China as well. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.680 Yeah, yeah, but we can do it, like again, we will. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.520 We will take ownership of the port of Darwin and 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.480 if China has a problem with it, then it would 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.360 be up to them to raise it would be up 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.600 to President Jijingping to raise it with the PM when 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.360 he speaks to it. There is absolutely no need for 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:53.439 or benefit to us doing something antagonistic to the president 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.439 when we are trying to extract money out of him, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.400 frankly in the form of Chinese tourists who have dropped off. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.440 That is onwer the question though, about why the Prime 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.800 Minister is so scared on the world stage when it 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.840 comes to China. He's scared, he's worried about upsetting China. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.160 I mean, there's so many military near misses with China 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.720 here on home ground. We've got Chinese life fire drawers 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.320 off the coast earlier this year. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.160 But the question is do you want do you want 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.040 do you want you know, abloviated words, or do you 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.800 want results? I mean, the truth is Albaneze can jump 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.920 up and down about these various things in public. That's 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.079 not going to make the Chinese less likely to do 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.360 and they don't care. No, people will be saying things 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.520 and have said things, but they will be doing it 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.240 through the appropriate back channels. They will be doing it 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.320 behind closed doors, because of course, when you do, you know, 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.760 if you try to humiliate China, they're very very sensitive, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.280 despite how big and strong and scary they are, and 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.160 they're very very sensitive and they do things like the 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.959 retaliatory measures that this influencer this blogger is talking about, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:50.719 and so you want to avoid that. You don't want 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.920 to court it. But that doesn't mean that doesn't mean 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.600 rolling over to them. It just means not being a blowhard. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.880 He doesn't mean rolling at least I think you want 0:12:59.920 --> 0:13:00.680 to jump in there. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.640 Yeah, well half back to when the Orchest decision was 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.760 made and how annoyed the French Prome Minister was French 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.600 President was in relation to not being kept in the loops. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.280 So surely you want to set this up, Joe, when 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.720 you've got an audience there with Gjuping, Surely you do 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.359 want to set it up and start warming the Australian 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.360 electorate up for what's likely to happen, and also Giguping 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.840 as well. You need to discuss that. Then, if they're 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.000 so serious about finally getting this port out of Chinese hands, 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.080 that have to be discussing it with him, and they 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.320 have to been prepared for what's going to happen. We saw, 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.520 you know, when we dared to ask questions about COVID, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.560 what happened to Australia. You take a port off there 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.560 when they've got another what eighty five years left on 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.120 this lease it's not going to be good for Australia. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:40.120 That's right. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.679 But they know that that is going to happen. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:42.280 It's not like that. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:43.800 It's not like that's a secret. The whole thing with 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.760 the Orchest discussions is it was secret until suddenly it 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.160 came ninn and again, yes, Emmanuel Macron jumped up and 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.160 down and bleated about it and winged about it, and 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.600 it did not make one lick of difference because it 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.960 had already been done. And it's the same with the 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.520 Port of Dama. The Chinese know our plans for the 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.320 Port of Dara because it was made public during the 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.760 election campaign. And indeed they'd probably know anyway because they're 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.320 crawling all over us with their intelligence machines. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.560 So they are crawling all over us, I think, right, 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.440 crawling all over everything. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:12.920 At the moment. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.800 Are you focused on outcomes or are you focused on. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.720 I think it goes to more than that. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.600 I think we need to be tougher on China from 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.360 the very beginning, because at the same time we are 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.200 alienating the United States. But I look forward to seeing 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.960 what comes out of that meeting tomorrow, of course, with 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.840 the Chinese President and the Chinese. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:30.600 Premius so let's see. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.920 But let's move on to a very chilling story out 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.479 of Victoria, where an anonymous cell has threatened workers. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:37.600 At a machining manufacturer. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.920 A few weeks after, three cars were set a light 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.280 and anti Semitic messages were grafeeded outside the officers. Now, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:44.920 before we show you this clip, a warning that some 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.600 viewers may find it disturbing, have a. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:46.880 Look at this. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:53.640 Death to Israel, death to Australia, death to America. From 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:58.440 the River to the Sea. Palestine will be free, always was, 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.320 always will be original land. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.600 Lisa, this is a real troubling escalation. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.160 Yeah, it's not just disturbing. It's distressing that so many 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.720 adjectives you could use to describe what's there. But I 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.440 think this all harks back to we have not been 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.920 strong to hit back against any Semitism, and so now 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.440 this is the point we've come to. You've got a 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 company that has more than eighty full time staff according 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.480 to its website, who must all be living in absolute 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.440 fear and terror tonight, and not just the employees but 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.600 their extended family as well. If you've got this video 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.480 out there saying we will feed this to our underground network, 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.680 we know your addresses. Each of those people are potential 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.160 victims of a terror attack. And not only that, you've 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.240 now got the universities, you should be looking very closely 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.800 at themselves. They all put up with the encampments. They 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.920 didn't fight back hard when it came to controlling the 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.800 anti semitism on site for campuses, and now potentially are 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.840 we going to see those universities now targeted with. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.160 This as well. No, I completely agree with you. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.600 I think it's just another example of how anti Semitism 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.960 has been allowed to become the norm in this country, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.520 and then that is the real problem. Now, look, the 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.720 anti seven Semitism Envoy Gillian Siegel is being harassed by 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.000 the media after her husband donated money to Advance Australia, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.400 which The Canberra Times describes as far right. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.240 I'm not sure I describe that terrorist exactly. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.000 I'm not sure what's so far right about it. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.080 But look, Gillian Siegel has denied being involved in the donation, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.480 and look, I mean she's saying no one would tolerate 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.880 her accept my husband dictating my politics, and I certainly 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.080 won't dictate his. I have had no involvement in his donations, 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.600 nor will I I mean Joe was if she isn't 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.320 capable of acting independently of her husband. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.640 Yeah, it is a sad example of what often happens 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.280 for people on the extreme left of whom that masked 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.320 terrorist I say that advisedly is one hundred percent one 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.320 And again I would just on that note, this is 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.960 a blowhard. This is a guy who is a person 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.760 who is trying to sound really really tough. And the 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.920 fact that they have to say so many times you know. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.560 This is you know, you're afraid? Are you afraid? 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.960 This is not a joke, you know how serious it is. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.760 And then they're just like reciting Twitter hashtags like always was, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.840 always will be, and they've got the little Aboriginal and 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.400 torres straight under flowers, Like what sort of a message 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:16.560 do they think they're sending associating indigenous people, First Nations 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:21.320 people with absolute f wits like that, what a knob end? Anyway, 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.120 But on the Gillian Segle staff, again, what's what's your point? 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:25.600 Who cares? 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.000 Who cares what a husband did or didn't do if 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.200 you've got a problem with her, for example, her anti 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.639 Semitism report, which I thought was pretty sensible, although you 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.760 know there are arguments over how much curtailing free speech 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.600 will actually solve the problem. But whatever, you know, if 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.280 you like attack the substance, like actually have the argument 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.359 with the facts instead of just saying, oh, we're not 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.560 going to listen to you because your husband donated to 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:50.719 a group we don't agree with. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.000 I agree. Actually who cares? Who cares? 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.840 And also what feminist solidarity to say that? You know, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.480 a woman has beholden to whatever her husband thinks her 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:02.920 that she must. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.840 Be so offensive on a number of levels. But in 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.600 the end, she is was appointed to do one job. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.040 She was appointed to investigate anti septism in this country. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.960 It's got nothing to do what her husband does. It's 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:12.679 just another. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.000 Absolute beat up. It's ridiculous. Now, look, it's been twelve months. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.440 Would you believe since Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.439 in the lead up to the US election. Remember this 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.240 if you want to really see something that said, take 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:26.119 a look at what happened. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:39.800 Well. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.639 The President marked the moment while attending the FIFA Club 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.639 World Cup Club Final in New Jersey yesterday afternoon. And 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.879 he's also told reporters today that God was protecting him. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:51.520 God who was protecting me? 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.240 Maybe because God wanted to see our count think it 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.000 better or do really well make America great again. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.800 It's a little bit of a dangerous profession, big president. 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.200 But I really don't like to think about it too much. Yeah, 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.000 I've got to say, Lisa, I thought it was interesting. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.880 You know, twelve months ago he survives an assassination attempt. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:12.159 Twelve months later he's on stage, he's all excited at 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.359 that the faith of World Cup in New Jersey just 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.120 too completely contrasting images. 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:17.320 There. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:18.880 Here we go, We've got up on the screen. Now, 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.760 how things can change so quickly. But you know, Lisa, really, 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.119 when you think about it, I feel like it was 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.000 that moment that really changed the trajectory for Donald Trump 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:28.760 and helped get him over the line. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:31.840 Yeah, it absolutely was. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.920 And look, you know, it's marvelous to think that twelve 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.639 months ago you had the failed assassination attempt and then 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.720 today there he is center stage and there was no 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.320 way that were keeping him out of being front and 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.760 centered there. It was quite quite comical to watch them 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.240 try to move Trump to the back of that pack. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.080 There was no way he was not going to be 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.159 in the limelight. And it's in a very strong message 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.640 to say, I'm here and trial you like, but I'm 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.199 not going anywhere. So it was quite a good one 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:55.600 to watch. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.520 I completely agree almost our time, Joe, but your your reflections. 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.600 Yeah, I'll decide to that. Someone actually shot at Donald 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.800 Trump and he still managed to stay standing while in 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.040 any fee for soccer match, players just dive even when 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.120 there's no gun at all, So he did. 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:10.480 Well what a contrast, Well. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:10.879 What happens? 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:12.919 I guess survived, you know, it was something like that, 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:14.800 but no good on him. It was good to see, 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.160 just very contrasting images. Lisa God Joe hilde Brad. 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.040 Good to have you both on. Thanks very much for 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:21.800 joining me on the show this evening. 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:27.520 Well joining me now is One Nation Leader, Senator Pauline Hanson, Senator, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.200 thank you very much for joining me on the show. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.359 I want to start with the Prime Minister's visit to China. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.640 There's obviously plenty of issues to be raising here while 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.920 he's over there, Taiwan escalating military strength and the Indo. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.520 Pacific trade disputes the port of Darwin. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.639 But so far the Prime Minister's gone for tourism, sport 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:48.480 and decarbonizing steel. Today, you know, I've got to say, Senator, 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.680 listening to the Prime minister's press conferences, he didn't seem 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.120 to have a position on anything. 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.000 One word salad after the other. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.040 It was only really comfortable talking about steel and iron 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.000 or what does it say about this Prime Minister. 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:04.440 I think it's a junker trip. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.679 And I'd like to know if all the CEOs are 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.879 paying for their own way over there, in their own accommodation, 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.080 or is still on the taxpayer, you know, to see 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.919 twiggy forest over there and pushing this green you know, 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.280 green steel. 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.200 And all the rest of it. We can't produce it. 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.720 They've shut down a lot of the companies here, the 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.240 hydrogen here, So it's just ridiculous to be pushing this. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:27.080 What's China going to do about it? 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.600 China is the biggest minist in the world over thirty 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.879 percent of carbon emissions, and he's pushing this to do 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:37.000 green hydrogen or make green steel. It cost you more 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.640 in electricity and our electricity prices. Know every household out 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.400 there knows that their electricity price has gone up where 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.760 they said they'd save two hundred and seventy five dollars 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.000 a year, or if the electricity bills going back four 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.280 years ago but now they're paying one thousand dollars more 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.200 now than what they were, So it's all ridiculous. 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.520 It's all pie and the sky stuff. He talks about 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:57.560 tourism as well. 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:01.080 You know, for these people to come out to Australia, 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.760 you know, I just think that it's been a waste 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.800 of time. And he goes there for six days, yet 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.080 he can't make the trip. Well, he went to the USA, 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.080 which he says, but he was on the West coast 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.640 and he didn't get to to see Donald Trump, who 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.640 is an ally, and we're in the Auchest agreement with them, 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:22.480 and yet he's there twing to the you know, Shingping. 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:24.320 I just don't get it. 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.760 He's not a leader of this nation. And talk about 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:31.240 the Darwin Port Janika, the Darwin port Land Bridge Group 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.840 that owned the Darwin Port. Right, that is a private company. 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:39.040 It is a billionaire that's bought it. Yi Chang, he 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:40.200 owns it now. 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:41.040 He's a billionaire. 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:46.000 Yi Chang has close ties to the Chinese Communist Party. 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:50.960 Why is Albanezy then wanting to speak to the Jinping 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.160 about the Chinese port when it's a privately owned company. 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:59.159 Why isn't he talking to Ye Chang about it. So 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.080 why is he to go to the president over this? 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.200 So you got to ask those questions as well. 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.720 The support should never have been sold in the first place. 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.639 And if they'd got their act together, and it was 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.840 about one hundred and thirty million dollars, the port was 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:15.280 in disrepair. No one in Australia and the government at 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.000 the time wouldn't line them the money to repair the port. 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.600 So they went in and on the world market and 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:22.840 allowed the Chinese to buy it. It should have been 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.159 stopped by the Foreign Investment Review Board right from the 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:29.400 very beginning. Poor governance in this country. That's why we're 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.439 in the hell of a mess that we are. And 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.080 we've got the most poor governance that we have under 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.919 Alban EASi. And he talks about national security, you know, 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:43.240 he hasn't given a defining, you know, to the Americans. 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.199 Will he support Australia and the Americans if war breaks 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.320 out with China and Taiwan, with China taking over Taiwan, 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:53.200 what are we going to do about the subs? 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.120 Will the Americans give us the subs now? Because our 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:57.160 Prime minister. 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:02.240 Won't give you defining you know where he stands with 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.200 this and I think that the Americans have a right 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.080 to know, and. 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.680 You know, I think you raise a good point to meet. 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:08.600 You're right, this is a junket. 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.439 This is he's gone over there to China on nothing 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:12.240 more than a junker. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.520 And just to expand on what you said there. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.240 He was asked today if there's been any progress on 0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.359 a meeting with Donald Trump, and he said his focus 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.000 is on China. He was asked about the Pentagon's request 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.520 for a position on Taiwan. He said, his focus is 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:28.280 on China. We've got Chinese spy ships circling again because 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.120 of Talisman Saber. The Prime Minister today said, well, there's 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.879 nothing unusual about it. So Senator, you've got to wonder 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.359 what the US must be thinking right now. 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:40.800 Exactly right. He's an absolute joke. 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.400 Our national security is in one hell of a state 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.639 at the moment because I don't trust the Prime Minister 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.040 that we have he's where he is leading us, and 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.320 I think we as a nation and myself as a 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.200 member of Parliament elected by the people, have a right 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:58.040 to know what he's thoughts are, where we are headed 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.520 with this, and I'd like to see the OP possision 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.720 step up and say ask more questions with regard to this. 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.000 We have a right to know. 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.080 Absolutely, we have a right tonight, I think you're absolutely 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:10.439 spot on. 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:12.080 I want to move on now. 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:15.399 To a leaked Treasury report which is revealed that Labor 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.200 was advised to hike taxes and slash spending in order 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.600 to balance the country's books after this year's election, though 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.639 Jim Chalmers didn't seem to mind. 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.560 And what's happened here is a Treasury official has sent 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.080 those documents in error. 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.680 That sort of thing happens from time to time. 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.560 I'm pretty relaxed about it, to be honest. 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.320 Well, I mean you know whether the Treasurer is relaxed 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.639 about it or not. That the PM certainly shouldn't be, 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.679 given he's on the record boasting about how meaningful his 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:44.520 promises on tax policy are. 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:50.080 I believe that when you go to an election and 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:53.840 you make commitments, you should stick to my word if my. 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:58.800 Bond, Senator, So the Treasurer is relaxed, Albow's word is 0:25:58.800 --> 0:25:59.320 his bond? 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:05.000 Can they would be trusted on taxes? No? 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:06.600 And I've said that all along. 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.959 The only way to run a country is based on 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:14.720 prosperity and productivity. Now both those are on the decline. 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.479 The other way is through taxes. Now they're indicated that 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:21.560 with super innovation, tax on unrealized gains, and what's going 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.840 to happen there is it's hidden within the legislation that 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.160 the Treasurer will have the right to increase or change 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.080 it at his whim whenever it suits him. That is 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:36.120 very concerning the strange people. I believe that taxes will 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.480 go up, they'll get the support. 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:38.679 Of the Grands. 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.440 Greens really want to hit people in this country because 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.080 they say, oh, because you've got the money, you're rich, 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.960 you should be paying. Yet we allow people to sit 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:51.920 on a welfare system in this country for more than five, ten, fifteen, 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.680 twenty years, thirty years, and we don't question about their 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.440 contributing to this country, but we just keep paying them 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.879 welfare and expect those who got out there, got themselves 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.639 a job, got themselves a decent job, and have to 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.880 pay the taxes, excessive taxes to support these people who 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:08.480 want to sit on. 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.560 Their backside and do nothing in this country. I've had 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.320 a gupful of it. I'm sick and tired of it. 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.240 I don't mind helping those who want the help, but 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.960 people who think it's their right, god given right to 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:22.359 sit around and get welfare assistance, ran assistance, health assistance, 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.800 everything and not made work after. 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:26.680 Twenty or thirty years on it. I have a real 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:27.399 problem with that. 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.840 So Charmers has to put on that Act Daneka because 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.000 it's our blase of also what these things happen. 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.520 But it is the truth has been let out. They've 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.000 pushed this one point. 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:44.000 Two million homes. It's unrealized. It's never going to happen. 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.800 They went into the elect election they knew it. Economists 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.800 and myself and others than for Parliament have told them 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.320 that their spending was out of control. It was their 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.840 homes would never be built. But they took the lie 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.960 to their strand people and that's what they won this election. 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.600 And on people have a right. 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:05.280 They are deceitful, they're liars. They won the selection through 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.119 lies and a seat, and I believe that they should 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.400 be actually questioned over the whole lot. 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:11.440 Yeah. 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.320 Absolutely, And even the master Builders has been having warning 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.520 for so long that they just don't wonder. They don't 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:20.359 have that demand power to get to this record number 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:21.879 of homes that Labour wants to build. 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.239 We don't have the utensils right now. So it's been 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.119 a joke from the beginning before I let you go. 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.280 National MP Barnaby Joyce has vowed to introduce a private 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.639 member's bill in an attempt to end Labour's net zero policies. 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.639 Here he was on Deneka and James last night. Have 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:35.040 a listen. 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.320 I've been fighting for this for so long, but I 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.920 think it's got to a point we've actually got to say, okay, 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:41.080 let's see where we vote. 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.600 Or more to the point, if. 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.240 You don't even want to vote, if you don't even 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:50.120 have you're so courageous about about the climate, but you 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.280 won't even have the debate in the partmouth. I believe 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:54.959 they won't even have the debate in the partment. 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.080 Well, Senator, I say, good on him. 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.560 What do you think, Yeah, so do I good on 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.480 him because that's been my policy right from day one. 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.600 Get rid of it, get out of the Paris agreement. 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:08.720 So good on Barnaby. 0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.000 You know what, I doubt whether you'll get it second 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.120 at a tour and if he does, I'll probably be throwing 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:13.760 out of the party. 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.640 You know what, Barnaby, come over. 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.280 To my party because we need people like you with 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.240 backbone to stand up and fight these issues you won't 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.640 get from you from your so called colleagues because they 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.160 haven't got the backbone to actually stand up to strain 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.280 people in the way. This country is going down the 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:33.000 bloody drain. So you know, no problems. And I hope 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.400 if one Nation was there on the Lower House, we'd 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.040 be standing beside him affording him. 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:39.600 Well, there you go. The office stands. 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:43.000 If Barnaby Joyce is watching tonight, the office stands to 0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.560 head over to one Nation. I guess now that he's 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.560 no longer the bench, you never know what might happen. 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.320 So to Pauline Hanson, always nice to chat with you. 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.000 Thank you very much for your time on the show 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:52.480 this evening. 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.600 Really appreciate it. We'll stay with us. Coming up after 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:56.920 the break, just into Nampa Jim. 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.360 For Prices fired up because the Prime Minister has his 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.320 head in the sand on defense. She's got lots to 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:06.080 say on orcast defense spending and Elbow's appalling Taiwan response. 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:07.000 That's coming up later. 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.760 But next Radio Legend Ray Hadlee will join me live. 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.520 Welcome back to the program, and joining me now is 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.280 Radio Legend Ray Hadley. Ray Good to see you. Thank 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.600 you very much for joining me on the show this evening. 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.320 Well the Negro. It's wonderful to be here. I'm surrounded 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:29.960 by intelligent, outstanding young women. Oh, thank you, fantastic, Thank 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:30.440 you very much. 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.560 I so appreciate that coming from you. That's very kind. 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.400 But we've got a lot to talk about, don't we. 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:35.240 Where do we begin? 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.920 We've got to start with Anthony Alberze's visit to China. 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.560 Of course, you know it's at an awkward time when. 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.280 The US wants clarity over our position when it comes 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.440 to Taiwan. But you've got the Prime Minister over there 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.480 brimming with glee ray, you know, trying to figure out 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.960 how to make still better for the environment. 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:51.920 That's the priority. 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.720 Well, I think at best, the Prime Minister is a 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.920 Labor Party hack who's been promoted beyond the station in life. 0:30:57.920 --> 0:30:59.560 And you see that when he goes on the world stage. 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.320 You can get away with it here, how fellow well met. 0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.320 But when he's got to make a decision on whether 0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.959 he's going to offend our biggest trading partner or offend 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.960 our most close ally, he can't make up his mind 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.239 and indecision in this type of area is it just 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:18.280 paralyzes us. We want a leader, we want someone, you know, 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.200 and then mixed messages. He's got ministers saying, oh, well 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.760 will decide who we declare war on. Well, if Taiwan 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.440 falls and the Americans go after them, the China is well, 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.160 I know what side we have to be on. It's 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:35.280 fairly simple. And he won't enunciate that. He sort of 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:40.400 ducks and weaves and it's just not a statesman he is, 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.080 you know. And the worst part is the Niko. We 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.840 got him for six more years because the other mob, 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.120 what are we two months on for the election? All 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.840 they want to do is talk about themselves, gender quators, 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.080 Julian Lisa wants to talk about Oh, let's do how 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:56.760 they do it in the United States of America to 0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:01.600 choose candidates. I mean, get back to work. There's that 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.880 many things you can tear the government a part about. 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.800 But while ever you're looking at yourselves, the public just 0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.480 stand there mystified. Then you get lapped back in May, 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.800 we're up the July. How about some policies. How about 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:19.640 attacking Cassano Berbowen about his power policies? How about really 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.960 ripping and tearing about what's happening in China at the moment, 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.600 and all we get from the Liberal Party, not the 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.200 National Party, the Liberal Party is oh, what can we 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.160 do better? How can we be more popular? I mean, 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:36.120 get your sleeves rolled up and do something. Stop looking 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.200 about yourselves and talking about yourselves. 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:39.320 Well, actually I wanted. 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.280 To ask you about that, because you know, the Liberals 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.239 are floating this idea of a US style primaries. You know, 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.360 and the problem with this is you've got it means 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.040 till voters green voters can all decide who should be 0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:52.040 up for pre selection. 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.520 It's just bizarre. But I want to show you this. 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.920 Julia Lisa wrote an opinion piece in the Ods today. 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:02.280 He said the Liberal Party is but must be seen 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.760 to be a party open to our community, where people with. 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.040 Talent have a clear, fair pathway to step forward. 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.600 That's why since the mid two thousands I've advocated for 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.960 the need to trial US style primaries. Well, ray, how 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.000 is this going to have help the average person out 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:16.920 there who can't pay their bills? 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:21.320 Look to apps look like he's an intelligent black I think, 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.240 Jullian Lisa. But he must have got concust or something 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.160 when he decided this a number of years ago, and 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.200 keep pushing it. So, Julian, you're going to ask the 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.200 Teals and the Greens to gather and decide who would 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.280 be the best candidate to represent the Liberal Party at 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:39.560 the next federal election, you must be stark, raving, mad mate. 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.000 I mean, look, it's not perfect the way they do 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.360 it at the moment. It's in fact laughable in some 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.360 you know, particularly here in New South Wales where we reside. 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.440 But to think that you're going to hust people from 0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.360 the Labor Party, from the Greens and from the Teals 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.320 to actually cast a vote on they'll run dead, They'll 0:33:58.320 --> 0:33:59.480 pick the worst candidate. 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:00.480 Well that's a problem. 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.240 Although to be fair, they couldn't do any worse job 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.320 than the Liberal Party's done themselves in picking the worst candidate. 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:06.720 Yeah. 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:11.200 So, but it's a nonsense. I mean, for goodness sake, Julian, 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.600 stop talking about this nonsense and get back the policies, 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:15.120 ol mate. 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.600 Yeah, yeah, I completely agree with you. 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.120 And the more that they just talk about themselves, the 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.960 more you've got Anthony albineasy on the world stage being 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.279 allowed to be a lunatic on the world stage, or 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.080 a lunatic on other issues because. 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.840 There's nobody there attacking him. That's the problem. 0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.839 Well, every day they talk about themselves extends his primeariership 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:38.319 by another day. I mean, get with it, get with 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.680 it and stop talking about yourselves and stop coming up 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.080 with crazy ideas. I mean, rollles, leaves up and do 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:44.600 it the work. 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:45.879 Yeah, no, I completely agree. 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:47.440 Now, Look, I want to talk to you about the 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.520 situation in Victoria where there's a dreadful chant this death 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.960 to the idea of It's like it's been important ray 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:57.320 into Australia since Glastonbury. We've had protesters over the weekend 0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.640 in Melbourne. They were chanting it at a rally and 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.000 so swatstickers and Nazi symbols on display. 0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:03.440 Ray. 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.000 You remember last week the premier over there just Cincarell 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.920 and she announced an anti hate task Force. That was 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.200 how she was going to deal with all the issues. 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.040 He wondered with this constitute hate under the anti hate 0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:14.680 task Force. 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.080 Well, it's work, well, hasn't it. The first week of 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:22.000 the anti hate task Force. Look, I mentioned Ashari a 0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.200 couple of weeks ago, and with all due respect to 0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.840 many of the people protesting, in fact, all the people protesting, 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.239 they've never heard of a thing called crystal mark. That's 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.720 when the Nazis in the nineteen thirties went about destroying 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:37.520 Jewish businesses and basically wanting to exterminate the Jewish people, 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.279 as they later did during the war. So we've got 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.960 our own form of crystal mark happening, you know in 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.800 Melbourne and sometimes in Sydney as well. But Melbourne seems 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.200 to be captain, catch and sole selector of anti Semitism 0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:54.240 at the moment. And it's this is where leaderships required. 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.120 This is what the Liberal Party could talk about over 0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:01.360 and over and over again and do it sincerely. Because 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.560 the government, both the federal government the labor government in Victoria, 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.880 I mean, it's in their DNA to support the Palestinians, 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.920 and you know the Palestinians in some respects duties of support, 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:17.000 but they keep forgetting and Penny Wong in particular, Gaza 0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:22.799 has a terrorist organization as the executive government HAMS, that's 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:27.240 who runs the place ha Mas And so why wouldn't 0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.160 people react in this particular way because they're allowed to 0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.879 do it. And we've had a bit of handwringing from 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:37.440 October seven coming up for two years from the labor government, 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.680 the federal labor government. I'm sure the liberal labor governments 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.040 are saying the labor government in Victoria's the same, but 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:45.759 not much has done about it, and these people are 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:49.280 allowed to get away with it. I mean, the equivalent 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.600 to the public Order rights squad in Victoria should be 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.799 rounding these people up, and if they have to get 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.600 a little bit physical, they've got to get a bit physical, 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.120 because we can't have this no. 0:36:58.680 --> 0:36:59.920 And the other thing is is but we're on my 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:01.680 how time just before we let you go, Let's not 0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:03.959 forget that the Prime Minister's got all these recommendations sitting 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.520 on his desk right now from the anti Semitism Envoy, 0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.719 which he appointed to put an investor to make an 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.960 investigation into anti Semitism. Well, those recommendations rage are sitting there. 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.480 She's done an outstanding job, an outstanding job, and I'm 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.319 going to say much of it is just what you'd 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:23.160 call pure common sense. And like you say, he's having 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.759 his fourth meeting with the Chinese leader, hasn't cracked it 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.719 for a chat with the Trumpster quite yet, and is 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.840 doing and frying about whether he'll support China or the 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.960 United States of America. If they go to battle Labor Taiwan. 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.440 It's a mess, a real mess. But he's allowed to 0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.840 get away with it because, as you pointed out, Deniga, 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.080 there's no one in opposition shouting from the rooftops. Wake 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:47.319 up to yourself. They're too worried about themselves. 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.560 Exactly, and that's exactly the problem. Ray Hadley, really nice 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:50.040 to chat with you. 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:51.520 Thank you so much for my pleasure. 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.319 Thanks very much, appreciated it. Well. 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.520 Coming up with Orcas still up in the air and 0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.640 defense spending still trailing, how much failure can the labor 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.440 government manage when it comes to defending this country. Shadow 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.880 Minister for Defense Industry Nampajim for Price will join me 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.200 live from Alice Springs right after this break. 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:12.080 You won't want to miss it. Welcome back. Well. 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:16.120 As a Prime Minister gallivants around China talking tourism, decarbonizing 0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.400 steel and sport. Trouble is brewing in the United States, 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.719 with Anthony Aberesi still failing to get any assurances on 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.440 the orcast steel, and of course reports last week that 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:29.319 the Pentagon is considering making Australia pay more for submarines 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.120 under the agreement. Joining me now is Shadow Minister for 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:37.120 Defense Industry, Senator Jacinta Nampajim for Price Senator, really good. 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:38.640 To catch up with you. Thank you for joining me 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:39.720 on the show this evening. 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.640 Aside from the fact the Prime Minister can't even get 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.400 a meeting with the US President, how concerned should we 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:49.040 be that Anthony Aberenesi has failed to get any assurances 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:49.920 on Orcas. 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.560 Oh look, thanks for having me, Denika. 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.960 It is deeply concerning the fact that the Prime Minister 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.680 has failed to speak to the President of the US 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:08.239 Donald Trump. He's now been in the office for two 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:12.600 hundred and fifty one days and yet the Prime Minister 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.480 manages to catch up with of course ggping on. 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:17.400 A regular basis. 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.359 You know, the August Deal was something that we put 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:26.400 in place and was paramount, you know, to our circumstances geopolitically, 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.319 and it is deeply concerning that our Prime Minister has 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:35.719 not been able to get assurances for the August Deal 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:40.000 going ahead. What is concerning is the fact that this 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.080 Prime Minister, as Alexander rightly points it out, seems to 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:49.600 be retreating as opposed to ensuring that our relationships well, 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:53.719 our relationship with our closest ally the US continues to 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:58.160 be strong given the circumstances that we're faced with, which 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.280 you know, we haven't been in such a position since 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:06.200 World War Two. And you know, the Prime Minister really 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.320 needs to tell the Australian people what is it he 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.600 is doing. Is he does he have the interests of 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.359 our nation at the forefront of the decisions that he's 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:17.240 currently making. 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:19.680 Well, it's a good question, and you know it's clear 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.239 that his failure to get a handle on this relationship 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:26.279 is proving costly. Labor as we know, refuse the White 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.080 House's request to lift defense spending as virtually all NATO 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:34.080 member states have. Senator, This is despite plenty of strategic 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:37.960 and foreign affairs experts consistently warning of the potential consequences 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:38.719 of not doing so. 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:44.759 What could this mean for Australia. Yeah, look, I mean. 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.239 Put aside the fact that you know, what I keep 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:52.680 wondering is this Prime minister why you know, he's trying 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.840 to show himself as some kind of player on the 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.440 world stage that it can stand up to the likes 0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:58.560 of someone like Donald Trump. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.719 But put aside Donald try for a minute. 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:05.680 As you've said, allies are also lifting their own GDP 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.920 spend on their defense and at the same time our 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.080 Prime Minister is refusing to go beyond two point four percent. 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:19.400 The only world leader that has sought has expressed that 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.560 we shouldn't be lifting our defense spend. Of course again 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:28.160 is ggping. Again another great concern, because we know that 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.320 when it comes to defense we are underfunded when it 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:35.719 comes to things like our northern basis, our drone technology, 0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:40.920 our ship sustainment, and also in terms of our recruitment. 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:45.520 I mean we are below in terms of our recruitment 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:46.400 in the thousands. 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.560 And the fact that our Prime Minister. 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.880 Won't even listen to our own Australian experts when it 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.600 comes to the need to lift the spend to at 0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:01.120 least three percent in terms of GDP toward our defense. 0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.320 That is again one more grave concern. 0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.040 The Prime Minister is failing. 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.359 Australia in terms of our defense at such a critical time. 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:11.320 Absolutely, and there's that. 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:13.560 But also I want to ask you about a recent 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:17.560 report from the Australian National Audit Office which found significant 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:21.960 deficiencies in the maintenance of two landing helicopter dock vessels, 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.839 and also that Defense Minister Richard Marles hadn't properly been 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.360 brief for two and a half years about their readiness 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.520 for deployment. Firstly, Senator, how is it that the minister 0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.360 in charge knows nothing? And secondly, if we can't maintain 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.680 our existing equipment, how can we seriously be prepared for war? 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:44.799 That's exactly right. 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.680 I mean, you know, we have seen the China's aggression 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.400 toward us in recent times and what we keep hearing 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.880 from the Prime Minister and from the Minister of Defense 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:02.320 is rehetoric around what is actually occurring. I mean, the 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:07.480 Defense Minister had not had any briefing from the department, 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.120 from the Department of Defense for two and a half 0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:15.840 years with regard to this latest report, when he should 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:20.160 be receiving reports on a regular basis, as regularly as 0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:26.880 six months. Every six months. This government is utterly asleep 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.279 at the wheel and is playing with the lives of 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:34.040 Australians while they are asleep at the wheel. This is 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:38.680 absolutely not good enough for our country, for our defense. 0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.560 And you know what, Dnaka, I mean, we really need 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.600 to get back into I've been champing at the bit 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.560 to get back into Parliament so that we can put 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.120 this Prime Minister and his ministers and his defense minister 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.200 on notice and start pushing the hard questions on them 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.440 why they are not doing the right thing by our 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.560 country in terms of our in terms of our defense, 0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:05.720 particularly at this very critical time in global history. 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.560 Absolutely, well, you won't have to wait too long. Next 0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.280 week couldn't come soon enough. We're almost out of time, Senator, 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.200 But just really quickly on Taiwan, was the US right 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.879 to ask what we would do if China goes to war? 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:24.920 Look, I think the ambiguity around that is that the 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.200 US obviously hasn't stated to us what they would do 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:32.560 under those circumstances, So without knowing where they would sit 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:38.160 in terms of, you know, speaking about what is I 0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.400 think it's right to sort of wait until they can 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.440 provide a sort of a scenario or an understanding of 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.200 where they might sit before we decide to take that approach. 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.400 It's a bit of give and take. But as you 0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:50.320 can see, under these. 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.640 Circumstances, with a way in which our prime minister is behaving, 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:58.960 it's no wonder that the US are concerned about where 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.120 our prime minister might sit with any of all of this. 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.080 No, I absolutely agree, and I wonder they're asking questions 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.279 about our allegiances. Senator just sint Napa, jimber Price, It's 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:08.080 been really good to see you. 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.200 Thanks very much for joining me on the show this evening. 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:10.880 Appreciate it. 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:14.040 Coming up after the break, a bombshell report identifies the 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.920 failings that led to last year's attempt on President Donald 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:17.600 Trump's life. 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.960 A cascade of Secret Service failings, how appalling. 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.680 Skynyer's contributor, Kosher Garter, will join me live after the break. 0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:28.440 Welcome back. Well. 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.239 On the twelfth month anniversary of the attempted assassination of 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.799 Donald Trump, a congressional inquiry into the incident has found 0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:39.400 inexcusable failures in the Secret Services operations and response, calling 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:43.040 for more serious discipline reaction. Let's bring in Skyny's contributor, 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.719 Kosher Garden our kosher welcome look. 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.160 Firstly, this report. 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.960 Has found a multiple failures, a litany of failures. We 0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.160 knew at the time, of course, about the DEI in 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.320 the Secret Service. We've all seen the footage of the 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.680 slow response. What do you take mostly from this report? 0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:03.080 Yes, I think DEI was something that bubbled up to 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.080 the surface right away after that that remains, but there 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:08.680 are lots of tactical errors as well that came out 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.279 from it, such as the Trump team had requested more 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.680 resources because there was an elevated threat at that time 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.080 against his life and they had good intel on that, 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:21.240 and those threats were denied. Then Director Cheetle Kim Cheadle 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.879 actually lied under oath and deny that and then later 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:27.399 reversed it and resigned infamously. There were other issues such 0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:30.560 as how did the shooter get access to the rooftop tactically? 0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.120 Like why was that a line of sight to the 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.680 president on stage not addressed properly? How was he able 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.759 to gain access to the premises with a gun and 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:41.840 a rifle in his hand as he did and twenty 0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:44.920 seven minutes before he entered Apparently this report says he 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.320 had been sighted and somebody had raised that, but that 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.840 communication just broke down and nothing was done about it. 0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.120 He was an apprehended in any such way, so on 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:54.600 and so forth. And then the biggest thing I think 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.480 that's making a lot of people angry right now is 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.239 nobody has been held accountable. Not a single person has 0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.440 been fired. Supposedly, there are six people who've been disciplined 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:04.640 and were benched for a couple of months. 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:05.200 Without pay. 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.560 But that feels grossly inadequate for this event that could 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.640 have taken out President Trump and changed the arch of history. 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.640 Absolutely you spot on. Now. 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:16.239 Donald Trump is confirmed he'll get to the UK after 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:18.919 an invitation from King Charles, who'll be there for three 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.680 days in September in what will be the US president's 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:25.080 second state visit Ja Kosher. You know, King Charles manages 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.799 to get a meeting with Donald Trump, get our Prime 0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:32.160 minister can't. He's still flying around everywhere else except for Washington. 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.040 You know, one wonders is it because he can't or 0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.040 because he doesn't want it, and he's decided to just 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.040 resign himself to being reactive rather than proactive as it 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.560 relates to dealing with Trump and getting favorable terms on 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:46.640 tariffs and everything else. 0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:47.120 Who knows. 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.960 Nobody does state visits the way the monarchy and the 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:54.080 British royal family do, so I think he's playing in fairness. 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:58.480 He's playing from a totally different plane, and Trump certainly 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.400 loves that he did it. Of course with the late 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.319 Queen Elizabeth the ICID. He understands the significance of these 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.879 meetings in terms of iconography and photography for the history 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:08.319 books and all the rest of it. So I think 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.400 he is very pleased with that and looking forward to that, 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.120 whereas for our Prime Minister, I think it sort of 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:17.120 feels like junior varsity and not really playing at the 0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:17.880 big boys table. 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:19.320 No, I completely agree. 0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.920 Just finally, the President Trump still can't get away from 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.440 backlash over his administration's handling of the Epstein files. 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:26.000 What's going on. 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.960 This story is not going away as much as he 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.320 would like it to. And it's really not because of 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:37.359 the case itself or Epstein himself and his various proclivities, 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.200 but it's because of what it represents, which is transparency 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:42.560 and justice. And this is something that Trump ran on. 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.040 People are fed up with the lack of transparency in 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.239 government institutions in general. This case really is a microcosm 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.960 of that. There's so many unanswered questions. The way it 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.239 was rolled out and the way ag Pambondi handled it 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.960 was totally botched, and people are not going to I think, 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.919 stop beating the drum until there's something better than let's 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.160 sweep this under the rugs. Nothing to see here because 0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:03.400 his beast, in particular, it's not flying with them. 0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:07.280 No in between, you know, Pam Bondi, the Department of Justice. 0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:10.960 One saying one thing, one saying another thing. Yeah, it's 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.560 not going away, that's for sure. Kosher Garda, good to 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.080 see you. Thank you so much for joining me on 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.399 the show this evening. Thank you for your company. I'll 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.160 be back again tomorrow night. Now it's time for James 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.160 Morrow hosting Paul Murray in the man Cave.