WEBVTT - Why Does Everyone Now Have ADHD? 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.220 Welcome back to the Occasionally Funny Podcast. 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.040 Great start. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.560 Great start. Welcome back to the Occasionally Funny Podcast. You're 0:00:07.580 --> 0:00:08.920 here with Sam and. 0:00:09.380 --> 0:00:11.789 Sam. And. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.350 Josh. And we're here today to talk to you about. 0:00:16.910 --> 0:00:20.450 Well, firstly, you're still in Adelaide, so it's remote. 0:00:20.989 --> 0:00:22.910 People watching on YouTube will be able to see that 0:00:22.930 --> 0:00:27.270 you've got one leg up. which looks like you've got 0:00:27.310 --> 0:00:29.730 no pants on, and we've had a lot of issues 0:00:29.750 --> 0:00:31.650 around flashing of legs. 0:00:32.150 --> 0:00:33.890 Okay, can confirm, shorts. 0:00:34.530 --> 0:00:36.340 Well, I was trying to be more respectful and just 0:00:36.350 --> 0:00:38.080 show my upper body and not all this leg, and 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:39.840 it's got me in trouble already, so I've got my 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:40.300 legs down. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.960 I just wanted to bring you across what may be 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:43.540 the backlash. 0:00:44.500 --> 0:00:47.120 Yeah, that's all right. We cop it every week. It's fine. 0:00:47.940 --> 0:00:59.740 Okay, now should we talk about the elephant in the room? Uh.... 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.370 What is the elephant? There's no branding, occasionally funny branding. 0:00:59.250 --> 0:01:01.070 Got a lovely photo of my friends. 0:01:01.710 --> 0:01:03.370 You do know the saying, the elephant in the room? 0:01:04.130 --> 0:01:06.110 Yeah, I know the saying. What's the elephant in the room? 0:01:06.170 --> 0:01:07.690 I don't know of any tension between us or something 0:01:07.709 --> 0:01:08.730 that we haven't spoken about. 0:01:08.750 --> 0:01:10.590 Well, no, it's more than the fact that I said 0:01:10.630 --> 0:01:12.310 elephant in the room. Then you started to look around 0:01:12.350 --> 0:01:17.160 the room as if looking for an elephant. The elephant 0:01:17.220 --> 0:01:19.300 in the room, Sam, is what happened on Friday. I 0:01:19.500 --> 0:01:21.480 was at the beach with friends having a little scroll 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.760 on Instagram. First thing I see is your cock. 0:01:26.459 --> 0:01:28.900 Oh, yeah. Wait, did you see it, though, when my 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.300 cock was actually on Instagram? Or did you just see 0:01:31.340 --> 0:01:31.800 the second half? 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.100 Yeah, before you did the quick delete. 0:01:33.980 --> 0:01:34.540 Did you actually? 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:35.319 Yes. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.660 No, you didn't. It was only up for five minutes. 0:01:40.340 --> 0:01:40.880 What's this? 0:01:41.340 --> 0:01:44.760 Which part? Okay, I think you're lying. Which part did 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.819 I show my cock on Instagram? 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.110 No, I didn't see the first version. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.240 I saw the second version, but the second version, I 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.090 was still like, this is bowls of salmon. 0:01:56.610 --> 0:02:00.790 Well, I did run it past Ilya and we agreed 0:02:00.830 --> 0:02:02.970 because I wasn't showing my bum crack that it was 0:02:03.030 --> 0:02:05.190 above board and it was just a bit cheeky and 0:02:05.210 --> 0:02:07.710 a bit fun. It's from two years ago. It's not 0:02:07.750 --> 0:02:08.270 even me now. 0:02:08.330 --> 0:02:09.350 It's like a different guy. 0:02:09.590 --> 0:02:12.310 Anyone who's not seen it, you posted a reel where 0:02:12.330 --> 0:02:14.910 you climbed the highest mountain in Australia and then it 0:02:14.970 --> 0:02:16.250 had the text like, what did you do? And you 0:02:16.270 --> 0:02:18.389 climbed the highest mountain and you just appear then in 0:02:18.630 --> 0:02:19.780 shot naked. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:20.680 Yeah. 0:02:21.190 --> 0:02:23.560 Which like for anyone not in Australia, the highest mountain 0:02:23.590 --> 0:02:25.839 in Australia is not that impressive. I think it's only 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.440 like I actually don't even know how high it is. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.560 Sorry, the height of the mountain isn't really the talking 0:02:31.590 --> 0:02:35.510 point of this situation. I'm not sure a single person 0:02:35.550 --> 0:02:37.310 saw that and went, oh, how high is that mountain? 0:02:38.410 --> 0:02:41.470 No, somebody did comment like, oh, it's not even that impressive. 0:02:41.490 --> 0:02:43.209 The mountain's not that high. And I was like, man, 0:02:43.350 --> 0:02:46.190 I'm naked. Like, come on, give me something. I've put 0:02:46.220 --> 0:02:48.920 some effort in here. But that's the second time in 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.280 my short social media career that I've posted my genitals 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.550 online by accident. But the edit that I did before 0:02:56.590 --> 0:02:58.330 I took it down, so there's a part in the 0:02:58.370 --> 0:03:00.690 start of the video which is a time lapse. And 0:03:00.730 --> 0:03:05.080 I didn't really notice that I turned to camera and 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.600 then turned off really quick. So if anyone was watching 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.440 on Instagram, they wouldn't be able to pause it on 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.919 the moment. But if you screen recorded it and then 0:03:13.220 --> 0:03:16.389 paused it on the right part and then changed the contrast, 0:03:16.870 --> 0:03:20.490 you got a complete image of my Willie. 0:03:21.210 --> 0:03:22.489 And I bet someone has done that. 0:03:23.110 --> 0:03:25.250 Well, I really hope not. It was only up for 0:03:25.290 --> 0:03:26.769 five minutes. But at the end of the day, if 0:03:26.790 --> 0:03:29.050 someone did, we've all, well, not everyone has a willy, 0:03:29.090 --> 0:03:30.130 but half the population does. 0:03:30.790 --> 0:03:33.030 Everyone has a willy. 0:03:33.530 --> 0:03:36.930 We all got one. It's like, what is it, Lucinda? 0:03:37.010 --> 0:03:39.790 And she's like, you've got boobs too. I was like, 0:03:39.810 --> 0:03:40.770 you've got a willy too? 0:03:41.430 --> 0:03:45.130 I just went in the ocean. Topless, you've got boobs too. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:46.440 To everyone. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:47.580 I've been in the ocean. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:49.260 Yeah. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:49.980 Cut their accents. 0:03:51.150 --> 0:03:53.430 Um yeah well i think is that your back news 0:03:53.450 --> 0:03:55.120 you've accidentally leaked your old penis. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.680 Again again but i quickly uh got on top of 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:02.320 it and reposted and um yeah i don't think i 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.780 have any other back news actually that's been my event 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.040 for a week what about you. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.550 I've been reading a fascinating book sam. 0:04:10.310 --> 0:04:12.410 Oh can i interrupt before you go into back news 0:04:12.750 --> 0:04:15.420 oh god i've i've I have some more back news, 0:04:15.460 --> 0:04:17.680 which is I finally figured out what front news is. 0:04:18.060 --> 0:04:20.440 Remember we were playing around with what would front news 0:04:20.500 --> 0:04:22.810 be if back news, and it got very confusing. 0:04:23.370 --> 0:04:26.170 Yeah. Front news would be when you move into Sydney. 0:04:26.230 --> 0:04:27.750 That would be front news because it's big news. 0:04:28.310 --> 0:04:32.190 Well, no, I'm scrapping that. I think any big news, 0:04:32.270 --> 0:04:35.770 anything that's happened is back news. Front news is future news, 0:04:35.990 --> 0:04:37.920 so exciting things that are coming in the future, so 0:04:37.940 --> 0:04:40.280 things that haven't happened yet. So moving to Sydney would 0:04:40.300 --> 0:04:42.380 be considered front news because it hasn't happened yet. 0:04:43.740 --> 0:04:45.400 No, because what if I said my back news is 0:04:45.420 --> 0:04:47.440 that I had a really big meeting and got a 0:04:47.460 --> 0:04:51.140 big project confirmed, but it's a future thing I'll make 0:04:51.170 --> 0:04:52.729 in the future, but the back news is the fact 0:04:52.750 --> 0:04:54.710 that it's just happened, like it's been greenlit. 0:04:56.910 --> 0:05:00.089 That's a grey area. I'll just go back to my 0:05:00.610 --> 0:05:02.550 back news desk and I'll get back to you next 0:05:02.589 --> 0:05:03.790 week on exactly the timeline. 0:05:03.810 --> 0:05:04.450 Yeah, thank you. 0:05:04.790 --> 0:05:07.670 I promise for our listeners, because I'm sure everyone's getting confused, 0:05:07.690 --> 0:05:09.620 I think back news is pretty clear. I'm going to 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.370 get some real clarity on how you deliver this because 0:05:12.390 --> 0:05:13.210 I want you to be able to do it with 0:05:13.230 --> 0:05:15.870 your friends out there in the world. 0:05:15.890 --> 0:05:19.510 I would like, if anyone actually does back news regularly, 0:05:19.550 --> 0:05:22.270 to please message us on the Occasionally Funny Instagram just 0:05:22.290 --> 0:05:24.810 to tell us that one person out there is doing it. 0:05:26.029 --> 0:05:27.650 Well, I did it with my friends at a wine 0:05:27.670 --> 0:05:28.950 bar on the weekend, if that counts. 0:05:30.390 --> 0:05:33.470 But you're the one pushing it on the world. Hey, 0:05:33.510 --> 0:05:34.370 you've got to. 0:05:36.150 --> 0:05:38.440 Start somewhere. Anyway, sorry to interrupt. Back to your book. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.700 Oh yeah, so I found this book, I started reading, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.290 and I've never read something and gone, huh, this feels 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:51.210 like my life. And if you know my book, you 0:05:51.250 --> 0:05:52.590 do know that I had a book out, and mine 0:05:52.610 --> 0:05:53.570 was kind of chronicling. 0:05:53.589 --> 0:05:54.789 I read half of it, remember? 0:05:54.870 --> 0:05:55.170 Famously. 0:05:55.190 --> 0:05:56.030 Yeah, thank you. 0:05:56.510 --> 0:06:01.929 The decline of a gamer, I just spiral into Grindr, hookups, validation, addiction, 0:06:01.950 --> 0:06:05.930 with like a sprinkle of like showbiz stories through there, 0:06:05.950 --> 0:06:06.830 because of my career. 0:06:07.930 --> 0:06:08.530 And this book. 0:06:09.589 --> 0:06:13.610 it's the same and it's you know the british comedian alan. 0:06:13.410 --> 0:06:17.089 Carr yep yeah yeah he's like i. 0:06:16.890 --> 0:06:20.370 Mean he's very famously flamboyantly gay but he's also one 0:06:20.410 --> 0:06:22.730 of the most famous people in the uk so he 0:06:22.750 --> 0:06:24.600 was married for like 10 or so years to this 0:06:24.630 --> 0:06:28.120 man called paul drayton and paul was kind of. 0:06:28.060 --> 0:06:29.780 Known because he's married to someone. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.550 So famous and like their relationship like, when they got married, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.630 they got married in Adele's back garden, like, Adele organized it, 0:06:36.890 --> 0:06:41.470 and she was the celebrant, and, like, Adele, Adele, Adele, Adele, like, 0:06:41.610 --> 0:06:43.650 and he was, like, friends with Adele throughout her whole 0:06:43.690 --> 0:06:45.830 rise to fame, and, like, you know, would listen to 0:06:45.850 --> 0:06:50.050 the albums first, and, like, this book, because he's not 0:06:50.070 --> 0:06:52.469 with Alan anymore, like, when it came out, the media were, like, oh, 0:06:52.550 --> 0:06:54.390 it's a tell-all, it's a, you know, because that's an 0:06:54.410 --> 0:06:58.500 easy headline, but It's not. It's more just one man's 0:06:58.580 --> 0:07:01.690 story of being, of just a gay marriage, really. Like, 0:07:01.830 --> 0:07:04.230 take away the fact Alan's famous, the insight into the 0:07:04.290 --> 0:07:06.670 rise and fall of a gay marriage, I found that 0:07:06.690 --> 0:07:10.130 very interesting. Adding the fact, like, these anecdotes with Adele. 0:07:10.670 --> 0:07:14.170 But then the interesting point for me was... Oh, fuck. 0:07:14.190 --> 0:07:18.220 I should probably turn my phone off. Back when Josh 0:07:18.260 --> 0:07:20.660 left his phone on, do not, no. Sorry, you didn't 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:21.780 hear the notification. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:22.840 Yeah, it was Teams. 0:07:25.170 --> 0:07:26.490 No, I'm off topic. 0:07:26.550 --> 0:07:29.010 The interesting bit for me was, so part of the 0:07:29.030 --> 0:07:32.090 reason this guy's marriage failed was because he struggled with alcoholism. 0:07:32.830 --> 0:07:34.650 And he'd go to rehab, then he'd relapse, and back 0:07:34.690 --> 0:07:36.830 and forth, back and forth. But what he realized later 0:07:36.870 --> 0:07:40.380 in life was he had undiagnosed ADHD, which was like 0:07:42.300 --> 0:07:44.220 the answer to so many things. And there's an extract 0:07:44.260 --> 0:07:48.700 I wanted to read to you here. And he says, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.140 after he got that diagnosis, everything suddenly made sense. My 0:07:53.180 --> 0:07:57.380 struggles with focus, my impulsivity, my need for constant stimulation, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.840 my extreme highs and lows, the feeling of low self-worth 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.480 when I just couldn't get motivated. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.520 It was all textbook ADHD. 0:08:04.980 --> 0:08:07.420 My whole life has been a constant cycle of extreme 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.650 productivity followed by complete burnout. When I was on it, 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.880 I was unstoppable. And then when I'd crashed, I'd reach 0:08:14.900 --> 0:08:19.260 for a drink. Alcohol quieted the noise, slowed my racing thoughts. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.920 Let me relax and switch off when my brain refuses to. 0:08:22.390 --> 0:08:25.590 But be warned, fellow ADHDers, alcohol can also have an 0:08:25.810 --> 0:08:30.370 adverse effect on our already stimulated gray matter. And yeah, 0:08:30.550 --> 0:08:34.580 like it reminded me of what you were telling me 0:08:34.780 --> 0:08:37.180 like a week or so ago off pod. Do you 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:38.179 want to tell that story? 0:08:38.660 --> 0:08:40.880 Well, just as you said that, it reminded me that 0:08:41.460 --> 0:08:44.620 when I went on, well, we'll have to do a 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.570 psychology analysis to go on maths, which I'm convinced to 0:08:47.610 --> 0:08:50.929 this point is to prove that we're all crazy, not sane. Ah, 0:08:51.030 --> 0:08:53.360 fuck off. What happened? 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.929 My monster just splashed out of the can into my eye. Oh, 0:08:59.130 --> 0:09:00.090 that sting, sorry. 0:09:00.150 --> 0:09:03.770 Absolute liability. Okay, everyone just hold on for a second 0:09:03.830 --> 0:09:07.890 as Josh deals with this. Are you okay? 0:09:09.150 --> 0:09:10.670 Have you ever had a white monster in your eye? 0:09:12.460 --> 0:09:14.100 No. What? 0:09:15.750 --> 0:09:17.329 Someone's been referred to as a white monster in my 0:09:17.350 --> 0:09:17.620 head before. 0:09:17.630 --> 0:09:19.150 I feel like this is all just a setup now, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.010 just to make that joke. I don't really know. 0:09:21.050 --> 0:09:22.540 No, fuck, that really hurts. 0:09:22.620 --> 0:09:22.980 Sorry. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.680 What are you drinking? Ice coffee? 0:09:25.700 --> 0:09:27.040 A little ice coffee. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.480 Are my eyes watering now? 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:31.440 Oh, wow. Oh. 0:09:31.460 --> 0:09:34.319 I'm sorry. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.679 Well, yeah, as I was saying, so we all have 0:09:38.700 --> 0:09:40.740 to do a psychology analysis for maths. 0:09:41.820 --> 0:09:43.920 Standard practice or reality TV shows. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.760 Yeah, true. And I did mine and then you get 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:52.640 your results. And the first thing she said was, have 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.090 you ever been, did she say, I don't think she 0:09:56.190 --> 0:09:58.929 asked specifically that first. She just said like, has anything 0:09:58.970 --> 0:10:01.220 ever come up with like, psych analysis with you before 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:02.480 have you ever done anything like this and i was 0:10:02.500 --> 0:10:05.580 like no and she's like well like we're not here 0:10:05.660 --> 0:10:08.600 to do any like diagnosis today we're just like doing 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.360 a screening for a television show but with these results 0:10:11.420 --> 0:10:14.740 from your test i would strongly uh be able to 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.280 tell you that you have adhd is that something that's 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.839 come up before And I was like, oh, well, not 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.679 really in terms of like any diagnosis or anyone telling 0:10:24.710 --> 0:10:27.530 me that I might have it, but I've always related 0:10:27.730 --> 0:10:30.370 to people who are posting online and saying like they 0:10:30.390 --> 0:10:32.729 have the symptoms of ADHD. I'm like, oh yeah, that 0:10:33.370 --> 0:10:36.090 definitely aligned with me. But I think the reason I've 0:10:36.130 --> 0:10:39.510 never pursued it is I do feel like I've created 0:10:39.530 --> 0:10:45.620 a career that has been able to work with ADHD 0:10:45.780 --> 0:10:47.230 if I so have it like I said I haven't 0:10:47.250 --> 0:10:48.929 had an official diagnosis I'm not going to say that 0:10:48.970 --> 0:10:51.030 I do have it but even if I do I've 0:10:51.390 --> 0:10:53.949 I've created like I work for a gym where I 0:10:53.990 --> 0:10:56.069 have to concentrate for 43 minutes at a time and 0:10:56.090 --> 0:10:58.450 it's super high energy there's lights flickering in my face 0:10:58.490 --> 0:11:01.050 there's stimulation everywhere so I can really just like zone 0:11:01.070 --> 0:11:04.339 in and I've had moments in my life where I'll 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.459 come back and crash and just spend like the whole 0:11:06.500 --> 0:11:08.599 day sort of in bed after those classes in the 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.300 morning and night so I only have to really turn 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:15.329 on for short moments so like yeah absolutely there's big 0:11:15.390 --> 0:11:17.590 chance that I do but so far in my life 0:11:17.610 --> 0:11:21.140 that either like I'm sure there's different levels of ADHD 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.360 and I've definitely had a type that I can manage 0:11:25.420 --> 0:11:28.780 myself if that's what it is not to say that 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.059 it's probably something that I could look into because there 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.080 is days that I would really like to focus and 0:11:33.179 --> 0:11:34.900 pump out a lot of work and I just like 0:11:34.940 --> 0:11:37.950 sometimes just absolutely can't do it but I don't know 0:11:37.970 --> 0:11:42.150 if that's like clinical ADHD or if my mind has 0:11:42.190 --> 0:11:46.199 just been like ruined by the world of short form 0:11:46.250 --> 0:11:50.079 content and everything else that really makes our attention spans 0:11:50.140 --> 0:11:52.860 really short but so far i'm doing okay in life 0:11:52.900 --> 0:11:55.840 so i haven't really had to like look into it 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.260 it's the same with like my eyesight like i've have 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.800 sorry to go on a little side tangent here but 0:12:00.820 --> 0:12:03.340 like i've had astigmatism my whole life like the condition 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.380 i have with my eyesight is not something that develops 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.440 it's something that's like you're born with it's the shape 0:12:07.460 --> 0:12:09.400 of my eyes like a little bit different so everything's 0:12:09.420 --> 0:12:11.380 like a little bit blurry So I was like that 0:12:11.420 --> 0:12:13.870 in school. And I remember specifically not being able to 0:12:13.900 --> 0:12:16.709 like look at the whiteboard and like read if I 0:12:16.730 --> 0:12:18.370 was in the second row in school. And I just 0:12:18.390 --> 0:12:20.810 thought that was normal. Like only the front row kids 0:12:20.850 --> 0:12:22.050 could be, would be able to read it. And I 0:12:22.090 --> 0:12:23.430 just never bought it up and I just got my 0:12:23.470 --> 0:12:25.449 work done. And I think I was, I wasn't like 0:12:25.470 --> 0:12:27.470 an A student, but I was like a B student. 0:12:27.510 --> 0:12:30.370 So like, I feel like I'd never set off any 0:12:30.410 --> 0:12:32.650 alarm bells for people to be like, Oh, something's up 0:12:32.670 --> 0:12:34.850 with Sam. Like he can't read or he can't concentrate. 0:12:34.890 --> 0:12:38.300 I decided like managed to go through under the radar and, Um, 0:12:38.660 --> 0:12:42.000 and then there was like a comprehension test right before 0:12:42.020 --> 0:12:45.890 we went into year 12 and I got pulled into 0:12:45.910 --> 0:12:48.809 an office because I failed this test miserably. And it 0:12:48.830 --> 0:12:50.210 was on one of those days where I just couldn't 0:12:50.250 --> 0:12:53.410 focus and couldn't absorb anything. And they were like, I 0:12:53.450 --> 0:12:55.729 don't think you should be doing these subjects next year. 0:12:55.750 --> 0:12:58.250 And they were also a bit confused about like how 0:12:58.330 --> 0:13:01.390 I'd got the grades that I'd been getting without, um, 0:13:02.470 --> 0:13:04.089 like they were sort of questioning if I had been 0:13:04.150 --> 0:13:06.510 like getting help from like my parents and stuff. And 0:13:06.530 --> 0:13:08.460 I've been doing my assignments because the way that I 0:13:08.500 --> 0:13:11.290 performed in this test was not like relative to my score. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.200 And I was just like, Oh no, I just couldn't 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.280 focus that day. And they, even at that point they 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.160 were like, okay, well good luck next year. 0:13:18.220 --> 0:13:18.620 Try again. 0:13:19.380 --> 0:13:23.099 Yeah. So yeah, that's my, uh, my non journey with 0:13:23.580 --> 0:13:25.120 a possible ADHD. 0:13:25.700 --> 0:13:28.500 Well, this is what I wanted to talk about this week. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.540 Cause I find it interesting that you didn't pursue it. 0:13:30.580 --> 0:13:33.330 But for me, I feel like for at least six 0:13:33.370 --> 0:13:37.189 or seven years I've suspected, but I never looked into 0:13:37.270 --> 0:13:43.620 it further because I, I feel it's so trivialized now that, 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.890 you know, if someone's like a bit energetic or something, Oh, 0:13:46.900 --> 0:13:49.880 I've got ADHD. Like everything's, or it feels like an 0:13:49.940 --> 0:13:52.380 excuse for, Oh, I can't do that. 0:13:52.460 --> 0:13:53.060 I've got ADHD. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.880 I can't say like, and then I was like, I 0:13:54.900 --> 0:13:57.180 don't want to pursue it because I'm almost embarrassed that 0:13:57.940 --> 0:13:59.380 if I've got that, it's gonna. 0:13:59.780 --> 0:14:00.310 Yeah. Yeah. 0:14:01.150 --> 0:14:04.010 And then for years I was putting off like pursuing, 0:14:05.670 --> 0:14:07.660 like trying to find the answer of that. Cause again, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.220 I just thought, is that another issue I want to 0:14:10.980 --> 0:14:13.339 find out? But then I listened to a podcast series 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.140 called Cloud and Cloud is by a girl named Keisha, 0:14:17.300 --> 0:14:19.480 who is the executive producer of, you know, the Life 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.430 Uncut podcast with Britt and Laura. And Keisha's on that 0:14:22.450 --> 0:14:25.170 part a lot. Like all the listeners know her. And like, 0:14:25.190 --> 0:14:28.810 I know Keisha personally through work. And then she did 0:14:28.850 --> 0:14:31.130 this series kind of, talking about it. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:31.800 And I just want to. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.930 Play you this grab, which was this, this audio grab 0:14:36.070 --> 0:14:39.290 is the reason I went, fuck, I need to find 0:14:39.350 --> 0:14:40.170 answers about myself. 0:14:40.950 --> 0:14:42.930 I think a lot of people, particularly women who are 0:14:42.950 --> 0:14:45.490 late age diagnosed, we go through this process of, it's 0:14:45.510 --> 0:14:50.200 a really emotional and kind of, you almost grieve what 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.520 your life could have been. And had I have known 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.920 this earlier, would I have been as hard on myself? 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.180 Would I have beat myself up so much that for 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.950 not being able to remember things in the way that 0:15:02.990 --> 0:15:06.910 other people did, to not have the skills to turn 0:15:06.970 --> 0:15:09.810 up for people in my life how I wanted to 0:15:09.890 --> 0:15:13.470 and how I desperately think they deserved. Would I have 0:15:14.010 --> 0:15:18.550 sought out really impulsive experiences and gone into relationships that 0:15:18.570 --> 0:15:22.070 were so fucked because I needed that dopamine high, like 0:15:22.090 --> 0:15:24.910 I needed that buzz to get myself to feel anything? 0:15:25.490 --> 0:15:26.090 Probably not. 0:15:26.410 --> 0:15:27.860 Like I probably actually. 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.390 Wouldn't have had to have experienced as. 0:15:30.390 --> 0:15:30.930 Much of that. 0:15:31.010 --> 0:15:35.280 When I heard that and then Keisha's story is, you know, 0:15:35.300 --> 0:15:40.940 for years she was antidepressants, anti-anxiety medications from doctors. She 0:15:41.140 --> 0:15:45.400 was studying like something scientific at uni, you know, in 0:15:45.450 --> 0:15:47.150 a lab which takes a lot of focus and she 0:15:47.190 --> 0:15:52.370 just couldn't apply herself. The medications, antidepressants were making her 0:15:52.410 --> 0:15:53.150 not feel like herself. 0:15:53.170 --> 0:15:54.350 They were dulling her shine. 0:15:55.180 --> 0:15:57.830 And she had years of that and pursuing bad relationships 0:15:57.850 --> 0:16:01.350 and bad decisions and, you know, the lack of self-worth 0:16:01.770 --> 0:16:03.770 that comes with that, thinking you can never do anything, 0:16:04.550 --> 0:16:06.990 you can't do anything right. And then when she had 0:16:07.030 --> 0:16:11.090 that late-age ADHD diagnosis, for her it was like, fuck, 0:16:12.050 --> 0:16:15.610 everything makes sense now. And I think I resonate because, 0:16:15.630 --> 0:16:17.840 you know, I've gone through so many antidepressants and all 0:16:17.890 --> 0:16:20.300 that cycle, so many doctors have basically tried this one, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.010 tried that one, and I say... they don't work. Like 0:16:23.130 --> 0:16:26.150 I still have these manic highs, manic lows. And then 0:16:26.170 --> 0:16:27.910 when I had Keisha, so I was like, fuck that 0:16:29.070 --> 0:16:32.510 is me. And then there's a quote, a lot of 0:16:32.550 --> 0:16:35.190 people say when they're late age diagnosed and it's like, 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.000 if I had known this earlier, how would my life 0:16:39.020 --> 0:16:41.960 have been different? And like a year and a half 0:16:42.020 --> 0:16:46.200 ago now, when I first got the medications, I was like, fuck, 0:16:46.220 --> 0:16:48.520 like what? Like I look back on my marriage, the 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:49.020 proper one. 0:16:49.980 --> 0:16:53.760 And like, I see if I had known, like, I 0:16:53.780 --> 0:16:54.600 don't think we'd still be. 0:16:54.500 --> 0:16:57.760 Together because ultimately we grew apart, but all of my 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.380 probably unreasonable moments and that pushing him away, which I questioned, 0:17:01.420 --> 0:17:02.220 why am I doing this? 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.840 Like, now I know what I know about how. 0:17:04.700 --> 0:17:09.280 ADHD works and how my brain works. I'm like, fuck, 0:17:09.300 --> 0:17:13.600 like so much could be different. And like, yeah, I 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.440 don't know. It's been like a weird journey. And like, 0:17:16.540 --> 0:17:18.300 I want to call this episode, like, why does everyone 0:17:18.340 --> 0:17:22.270 now have ADHD? And for me, it feels like it's 0:17:22.310 --> 0:17:25.430 because it's finally being addressed. 0:17:25.510 --> 0:17:26.610 Like, you know, me and. 0:17:26.570 --> 0:17:29.610 Keisha years of doctors going, you're just depressed. You're just this, 0:17:29.710 --> 0:17:32.330 you're just depressed. And it was never looked at. And 0:17:32.369 --> 0:17:34.590 I said to my mom, did you ever think I 0:17:34.630 --> 0:17:36.330 had ADHD as a kid? Cause you know, we're the 0:17:36.369 --> 0:17:39.060 generation where it was first kind of spoken about her 0:17:39.130 --> 0:17:42.920 generation wasn't. And she was like, Oh, well I thought maybe, 0:17:43.020 --> 0:17:44.940 but then I was like, well, why didn't you look 0:17:44.980 --> 0:17:46.179 into it? She's like, well, I didn't want you to 0:17:46.220 --> 0:17:47.359 think you were different to your brother's. 0:17:48.220 --> 0:17:49.879 Yeah. Well, we also grew up in a time of 0:17:49.940 --> 0:17:54.410 like being different was still like very much like not 0:17:54.470 --> 0:17:57.710 something parents wanted their kids to have to deal with. 0:17:58.090 --> 0:18:02.450 So I understand that in that time, like you're not 0:18:02.470 --> 0:18:05.909 going to like really pursue trying to find out if 0:18:05.950 --> 0:18:08.610 your kid had ADHD, if your kid had autism, because 0:18:08.910 --> 0:18:12.850 you think the diagnosis then would make their life harder, 0:18:13.350 --> 0:18:15.530 where in fact it would have actually made their life 0:18:15.710 --> 0:18:19.709 easier if the results were confirming that because they would 0:18:19.730 --> 0:18:22.390 actually be given the tools to succeed but yeah quite 0:18:22.430 --> 0:18:24.649 often I've looked back on my schooling years and stuff 0:18:24.690 --> 0:18:26.590