WEBVTT - Is the US military secretly killing our planet? 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:09.039 I'm Ruby Jones, and you're listening to seven AM. It's 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.320 the largest institutional emitter in the world, a bigger polluter 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.600 than one hundred and forty countries, and yet its emissions 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.480 are hidden from sight. Now, a new documentary is exposing 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.200 the impact of the US military empire on the planet. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.840 The waist, the billion dollar budgets, and the political maneuvering 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.840 that's kept it all out of the public eye. Today, 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.280 journalist and filmmaker Abby Martin on what the world's biggest 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:48.120 war machine is doing to our earth. It's Monday, August three. Abby, Hello, 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:49.200 and welcome to seven AM. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:50.839 Hey, thank you so much for having me. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.960 Could you start by talking to me a bit about 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:57.040 just the scale of the US military, the bases, the infrastructure, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.480 the supplies, the sheer size. 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.720 Just when you're looking at the bases right the base 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.080 is alone, we're talking about eight hundred to one thousand 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.639 military installations that our US ran all around the world. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.039 We don't actually know the true count. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.600 But when you're looking at the pollution of just maintaining 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.679 this global military empire, the emissions that it brings, just 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.919 the consumption of oil every single day is two hundred 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.280 and seventy thousand barrels on paper, and that alone makes 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.920 the US military as an institution the largest polluter in 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.480 the world. I mean, wrap your mind around that. That 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.880 is a larger polluter than one hundred and forty countries. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.680 And that's not even including the life cycle emissions. When 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.440 we're talking about industry polluting in terms of extracting rare 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.400 earth minerals, manufacturing all of the weaponry that we see, 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.280 and then of course the application of the weaponry war 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.520 it's completely unquantifiable. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.040 And that's just the tip of the iceberg. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.880 And so there's the fossil fuels, the oil that's actually consumed, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.720 and then, as you mentioned, there are all these other 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.880 ways that the military contributes to the climate crisis. One 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.520 is the impact of the actual weapons being detonated. In 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.880 your film, you show how ammunition is actually blown up 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.160 on base by the US military when it's unused, instead 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.720 of being returned to the Manufacturer's talk me through that. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.800 Yeah, it's called the million dollar minute, and this is 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.480 something done out of just pure boredom, and it's also directed. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.240 Just so I'm understanding this correctly. Let's say a company 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:29.560 goes out to a forward operating base, they bring a 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:35.200 big supply of bullets, mortar rounds, artillery rounds, grenades, everything 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.440 whatever they don't use. Instead of just bringing it back 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.160 with them when they return to the main base, it's 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:43.480 just blown up in the field. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.240 Yeah, you just those of it by blowing it up. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.440 It just is kind of like a self feeding cycle. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.919 They actually are instructed to blow up all of their 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.920 excess ammunition when they are on a forward operating base 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:54.680 before they bring it. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.639 Back to the central hub. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.000 And this is basically to justify ongoing expenditures. It is 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.560 an industry, it is a for profit corporation, or at 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.320 least it acts as such, so you have to continue 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.000 to get rid of everything that you have in order 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.960 to justify why you are getting more money the following year. So, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.200 for example, we leave Afghanistan, yet the defense budget continues 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:17.320 to go up and up and up. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.959 And it's the same thing with all the oil. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.120 When they're out there, they're told to dump all the 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.000 oils and then they can refuel once they go back 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:24.359 to the base. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:29.120 It's just a completely senseless, wasteful. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.160 Exercise, just for profit, just for profit, and it's all 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.040 been really clear watching the Wars today, how big of 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.280 a polluter war is what is less obvious, what's more 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:46.120 invisible is the pollution that's ongoing in relative peacetime. I mean, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.600 every single base is a story of not only legacy contamination, 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:56.560 but current ongoing toxic dumping munitions testing, the toxic contamination 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.680 of just cleaning the engine parts of the boat Pegasus, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.280 is the B fifty two bombers, the Bradley fighting vehicles, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.080 just to clean those engines is doing an untold amount 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.160 of damage. So this is relative peace time, just to 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.040 maintain the arsenal of the weaponry. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.560 Hundreds of military bases across the country, including one here 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.479 on would be Island in Washington State, have a toxic 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.880 legacy from forever chemicals that are threatening the lives of 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:22.080 families to this day. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.880 The DD revealed that in March of this year they 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.080 notified more than two thousand agricultural operations across the country 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.160 about potential p fast contamination. And then when you have 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.039 these jets, I mean, the US military has air forces 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.440 that are five times bigger than the next you know, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.560 the next five biggest air powers combined that alone, I 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.160 mean the amount of waste and emissions that. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.160 Are just being used just to. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.360 Fly around in pointless patrols, just to maintain mission readiness. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.239 I mean, just to wrap your mind around that. Comparing 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.800 to the average Australian driver road, it would be comparable 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.400 to like twenty years driving straight to one flight mission 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:01.440 of a Boeing Pegasus. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:06.040 And you made this film over several years. How difficult 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.720 was it to get information about how the US military 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.400 was contributing to emissions. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.520 It's extraordinarily difficult because for the longest time they have 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.560 obscured all of their data under the pretense of national security, 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.720 just as they carved an exemption for their emissions back 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.799 during the nineteen ninety seven Kyoto treaties. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.040 And so all the data from the movie. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.880 Comes from independent scientists trying to quantify the life cycle 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.760 emissions and things like this, because the military still will 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:41.000 not incorporate that data. So it's really tough to wrap 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.040 your mind around. All we actually know is how much 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:43.800 oil they consume. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.240 And you mentioned that when the US counts its missions, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.799 the military is exempt. How did that happen? 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.599 Yeah, in nineteen ninety seven, the Clinton administration, during the 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.240 first attempt for all countries to convene to try to 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.800 address climate change, seriously and to try to curb and 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.200 count their totals and work together to try to curb 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:06.479 those cooperatively. The US carved an exemption for its military, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.560 and so all other countries followed soon. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.080 I am very pleased that the United States has reached 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.240 a truly historic agreement with other nations in the world 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.080 to take unprecedented steps to address the global problem of 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.240 climate change. It reflects a commitment by our generation to 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.680 act in the interest of future generations. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.159 And so it wasn't until the Paris Accords in twenty 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.200 fifteen that this was a voluntary measure. Why would any 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.159 country voluntarily put up their military missions if the United 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.160 States refuses to. And so every single year after year 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.600 after year, at these COP conferences, where all these delegates 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.400 are patting themselves on the back, no one is actually 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.160 talking about the totality of our emissions. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.560 Therefore they are a farce. 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.520 Speaker Pelosi, you just presided over a large increase in 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.680 the Pentagon budget. This Pentagon budget is already massive. The 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.040 Pentagon is a large polluter than one hundred and forty 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.120 countries combined. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.440 And you actually went to one of the cops COP 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:10.360 twenty six in Scotland and your search for answers on this. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.320 What did you take away from that conference? 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.600 You know, I took away that there's a huge problem 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.280 with the entire neoliberal establishment, where it's an obsession with 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.680 free market capitalism and an obsession with individual rights while 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.320 you are completely ignoring the main drivers of the problem, 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.920 the main perpetrators, and you're actually including them as the 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.920 solution to the very problem they are exacerbating. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.000 I don't see what we're doing in any way or 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.440 you know, increasing the defense budget as being something that's 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.120 inconsistent with climate action. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:43.320 I really don't imever. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.920 Just to add that of national security advisors all tell 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.000 us that the climate crisis is a national security matter. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.200 It was panel after panel of people literally saying the 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:01.400 military is the solution for climate change, while on the 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.400 other side of their mouth they're saying, no, we shouldn't 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.760 count their emissions. I mean, they refused to answer a 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.720 simple question about whether or not the military should be included. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.040 In this, and instead they're saying it's the solution. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.000 It's really ceding to this inevitability that there's no imagination, 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.200 and so that's where we're in. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:17.760 We're in a. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:23.640 Collective suicide death spiral led by liberalism that has basically 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:30.520 just given up any sort of control to the military. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.080 Coming up, what happened when Abby went head to head 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:47.200 with some of the military's top brass So Abby, in 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.160 putting together this documentary, you did try to go to 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.360 the military for answers. You were a guest at an 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.760 international wargames event. You spoke to a number of high 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:01.240 ranking military officials. What was your experience trying to extract 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.280 a response from them. 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.880 I mean, it's like beating your head against a brick wall, 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.320 because these people are so obsessed with their self preservation 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:13.520 and they just justify their position in this huge apparatus 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.880 where you know, I'll ask them these point of questions 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.280 about have you ever thought about how these wargames hurt 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.600 marine life? And they'll say, you know, I don't know 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.960 if these wargames are worth it to the environmental costs. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.280 But then in the next breath they'll be like, but 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.160 we have to train, we have to get the oil, 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:27.920 we have to drill, and you're just like, you can 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.360 see their brains working real time to try to kind 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.240 of absolve and like justify what they are doing. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.200 I would push back a little bit and say I don't. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:38.720 Personally, I think it has to be a balance. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.280 We have to exercise, we have to train, but we 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.560 also want to respect the environment and make sure that 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:44.679 we're not doing harm. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.280 How can you say that, though, when you guys are 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.000 using live ordinance dropping, you know, actual real missiles, using 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.200 live ammunition. I mean, the thing is, they just feel 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.120 like they have no choice because you know, these people 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.360 are taught military brass, They've never been asked a difficult 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.040 question in their life. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.520 They're pampered as hell, but you see their brain short circuiting. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.640 It does seem like a contradiction for so many nations 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.120 to get together to not deal with an actual existential 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.920 threat of environmental collapse and climate change and instead exacerbate 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.760 the problem because military is such a large contributor to 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.880 pollution and climate change. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.839 Really, the purpose of what we're doing here with RINPAK 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.320 is to build these capable, adaptive partners that can help 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.760 uphold international norms and rules. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.880 But it is just so insane that I'm surrounded at 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.560 these conferences by access journalists to our extensions of the 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:32.880 military industrial complex. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.280 There's no real journalism being done, and everyone. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.640 Just acquiesces and thinks that the status quo is all great, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.040 that the military should be this dominant force that is 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.439 polluting the hell out of the planet and destroying any 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.120 ability to sustainable future, and no one's questioning these people. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.959 It's insane, and the mainstream climate movement it's meant years 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.920 campaigning against fossil fuel companies call in oil. Tell me 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.679 a bit more about why you think the military has 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.559 remained in such a peripheral subject. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.319 Yes, I think that for decades, neoliberalism has not only 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:11.480 co opted the environmental struggle, the progressive movements and tried 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.760 to essentially hijack the language and folded into the same 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.960 systems of oppression that we're trying to fight and mobilize against. 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:19.680 But this has all. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.480 Been very revealed and exposed in the last couple of years, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.040 the collapse of all these international norms and rules, and 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.800 so I think people are realizing, at least in my lifetime, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.160 kind of the foundational current that's driving all of this, 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.920 which is capitalism. And so all of us have been 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.880 isolated and siloed into these movements without understanding how all 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.080 of them connect, just as Americans and Australians are kind 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:45.080 of unaware of our imperial role in the world, and 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.160 so it really kind of takes us getting a bird's 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.480 eye view and just saying wait, wait, we are all 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.280 children of this military empire. And no, I don't want 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.360 to be complicit anymore. I don't want to collaborate with this. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.120 I want a peaceful future for Australia and the United States. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.280 I don't want to host new nuclear submarines basically threatening 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.559 China's doorstep. Like that doesn't need to be the inevitability 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:07.240 of the future here. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.800 Yeah, in the film, you talk about expansion into the 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.720 Arctic as well as US military build up in regards 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.719 to China. So how do you think those are going 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.880 to escalate and what impact do you think they will 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:19.880 have on the climate. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.840 I mean it's going to have devastating impacts on the 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.360 climate because another aspect of this is the great power 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.319 competition and the continuous military build up around the world 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.839 that encroaches countries like Russia and China, and then their 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:35.439 reaction to it. So because of the belligerent nature of 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:39.079 my government to continue to encroach on these countries, they 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:39.960 are responding. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.880 I appreci the Arctic heavily. It is the place that 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.600 most don't care about, and they're just don't understand what's 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.320 up there for minerals, natural gas, rarer oil and the 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.280 Russians actually trying to mark claim to that territory, to 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.280 try to control that body of water, so we cannot 0:12:58.640 --> 0:12:59.720 relinquish that space. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:01.640 You know, I think that it's going to have an 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.640 enormous effect when we're seeing look at the Iran war today, 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:08.000 the intentional targeting of oil depots, the black soot, the 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.400 black rain, all of this is. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.800 Going to be generationally felt. 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.360 It's not going to be isolated to Gaza in Lebanon 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.080 or Iran. So we haven't even felt the brunt of 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.880 what the you know, the cataclysmic effects of this war 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.559 that is ongoing, which we know is explicitly about oil. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.400 I mean, this is the thing about this military industrial complex. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.520 It necessitates its own existence. I mean, the expansion of 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:35.040 the military comes hand in glove with these warps, right, 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.920 I mean, when you acquire all the natural resources, when 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.240 when you go after Venezuela and Iran and explicitly state 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.160 that it's for pillaging and plundering their oil supply, and 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.000 then it further justifies the expansion of the military. That 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.840 pillaging and plundering the oil supply. I mean, it's just 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.160 a self fulfilling prophecy. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.280 What kind of responses have you been getting here in 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.360 Australia or as you been touring the film. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.400 I have been to Perth where they're going to set 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.560 up one of the Oaks sites to host nuclear subs, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.760 and people are really upset. I mean, I went and 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.160 saw the beautiful coral reefs that are inevitably going to 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.600 be dredged. Everywhere I go across Australia, it's the same 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.959 story as everywhere in the rest of the world where 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:19.560 US military bases are housed. People do not want them there. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.080 People understand the risk and it's not coming from China. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:29.480 It's coming from the armed soldier that's dumping their pollution overboard. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.760 It's coming from the pifa's contamination that's housed at the 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.720 base in your backyard. The media is telling us to 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:39.440 be terrified of Hamas and about China, and what I'm 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.400 seeing are people are terrified of a world where genocide 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.960 has become the status quo and our leaders say nothing. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.720 And so this is incredibly motivating to see so many 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.880 Australians standing up and saying no. They are not going 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.240 to accept nuclear submarines hosted here. No, they're not going 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.880 to accept their country as a battering ram in this 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.320 inevitable madness. And it's very inspiring and I continue to 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.800 be motivated by everyone that I meet. That's I'm trying 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.560 to push out us bass. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.600 Well, Abby, thank you so much for speaking with me. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.440 Thank you so much, Ruby appreciate it. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:26.240 Abby's film Earth's Greatest Enemy is out now. Also in 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.000 the news, authorities are investigating where the bird flu is 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.040 behind a mass mortality event in a South Australian island 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.600 called bored and Rock. More than eighty dead and sick 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.960 greater crested turns were found on the island. Experts say 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.720 mirrors what's happened overseas with the outbreak, which has caused 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.680 significant illness and deaths in poultry, wild birds and mammals, 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.840 and the Prime Minister is under pressure from the Opposition 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.000 to stand aside Northern Territory Labor MP Luke Gosling as 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.200 an envoy for Defense that are in affairs and Northern Australia. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.400 Gosling was charged last week over an alleged assault in 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.880 the Northern Territories Administrator, a role equivalent to state governor. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.920 Gosling has declined to comment as the matter is before 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.240 the courts. I'm Ruby Jones. This is seven am. Thanks 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:07.720 for listening.