WEBVTT - #164 Johnny Gannon on the Bra Boys, taking charge of your health & building strong communities

0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Hi, my boris, and this is straight talk.

0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:08.040
<v Speaker 2>We did stupid shit together, you know, it was riot stabbings.

0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.840
<v Speaker 2>It was rough at one stage, but we'ld congregate down

0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the beach together, surf together, train together. There was that

0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.320
<v Speaker 2>brotherhood and yeah, just have each other's backs.

0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:21.880
<v Speaker 1>John Agaan World straight talk mate.

0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me Mark Taj Borrow, who you trained

0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.880
<v Speaker 2>as age. Yeah, we traveled around the world for seven years.

0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I was his full time trainer.

0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:35.519
<v Speaker 1>We've touched on birth work, meditation, types of exercise, sleep, nutrition,

0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and hydration. That all gets put together. That's quite a

0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.720
<v Speaker 1>big package for people to digest, especially they're new to this.

0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't chase perfection because you're not going to get perfection

0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.040
<v Speaker 2>out of all those things. Just be good, that's it.

0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.600
<v Speaker 2>With exercise nutrition, we're looking for longevity. Yeah, and that's

0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:55.880
<v Speaker 2>what I try and teach.

0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.720
<v Speaker 1>John again, World straight talk mate.

0:00:58.800 --> 0:00:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me.

0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Mark a long way out of town like you normally

0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Northern rivers dude.

0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mate, I now reside up at Tweetheads, just on

0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.319
<v Speaker 2>the Tweed River there, so it's beautiful, good place to

0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.200
<v Speaker 2>bring the kids up. Yeah.

0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Really happy missus yep, so happily married.

0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Not married, but We've got three yeah, yeah, three healthy,

0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:21.319
<v Speaker 2>happy kids.

0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:22.600
<v Speaker 1>How old are kids?

0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I got a four year old daughter Buffy, seven year

0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.640
<v Speaker 2>old daughter Joey, and a nine year old son named Grayson.

0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.680
<v Speaker 1>You name your daughter after Robbos, missus.

0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:41.280
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely not. No, there's not too many Buffies around before. Yeah,

0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.040
<v Speaker 2>there's Robbos Williams.

0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, So why move up to the Northern Rivers? Like,

0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.360
<v Speaker 1>what was and when did that happen?

0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I was five years ago. I was living in Ruba

0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.880
<v Speaker 2>in a two bedroom units south of Maruba, and I

0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.440
<v Speaker 2>loved it and we just were seen and how are

0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.160
<v Speaker 2>we going to afford a house because we've got another

0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:06.960
<v Speaker 2>baby coming, and just looked at the Northern Rivers. Actually

0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.320
<v Speaker 2>we're thinking about Byron around that area, and we just

0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.520
<v Speaker 2>rented a joint up around Northern Rivers and saw a

0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.880
<v Speaker 2>house we really liked and just jumped on it. It

0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.120
<v Speaker 2>was in the middle of COVID, so it was it

0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.639
<v Speaker 2>all worked out really well for some reason. It all

0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.720
<v Speaker 2>happened and happened quick and yeah, stoke with the move.

0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.919
<v Speaker 1>So we might just give some context of that because

0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.959
<v Speaker 1>you're living in the Northern Rivers, but you're a Ruber

0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.640
<v Speaker 1>boy Yep, more than a Ruber boy.

0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.000
<v Speaker 2>You are Marubra.

0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're one of the original boys.

0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I grew up, grew up in Ruba and when

0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.799
<v Speaker 2>the boys sort of first sort of the Bra Boys

0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.639
<v Speaker 2>have been for around for a long period of time,

0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.200
<v Speaker 2>but they as we sort of our generation went through

0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.600
<v Speaker 2>the beach then we've really formed the Bra Boys.

0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.120
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't a beach web before it was.

0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, definitely who was all surfers and everything, but they

0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.639
<v Speaker 2>weren't as tight. They were as tight as we were.

0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Was organized or was organized? Yeah, probably not as organized.

0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.040
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, as we grow up, it sort of

0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.960
<v Speaker 2>just evolved into the Bra Boys and we all got

0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the tatters and got in a bit of trouble here

0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and there.

0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:21.239
<v Speaker 1>But what was the saying was my brother's keeper or

0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.240
<v Speaker 1>something like that? As I recall, I mean, there's been

0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of documentaries on this, and you know, of course,

0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.360
<v Speaker 1>lots of discussions about a couple of the dudes in

0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the in the group, I won't say gang, but the group,

0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and some got themselves into trouble and there was some few,

0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.040
<v Speaker 1>let's call it. There's at least one fatality I know of,

0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and lots of speculation around it. Was there a was

0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it like a was it more as like a it

0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.200
<v Speaker 1>sounds a bit soft, but a social club or was

0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it actually was there for a purpose?

0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.280
<v Speaker 2>It was a bit of everything. It was a gang

0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.240
<v Speaker 2>at some stage, like we were a gang. We we

0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:05.520
<v Speaker 2>did stupid shit together where you know, it was riots, stabbings, murders.

0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.400
<v Speaker 2>It was rough at one stage. But then so yeah,

0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.040
<v Speaker 2>you could like we've always denied it, but yeah, it

0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.080
<v Speaker 2>would have been a gang when you look back on it.

0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Then there was that brotherhood where we where we looked

0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.200
<v Speaker 2>out for each other because there's a lot of kids

0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that come from broken families. I didn't had a pretty

0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.960
<v Speaker 2>good family upbringing, but a lot of the blue used

0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.160
<v Speaker 2>to come from broken up bringing up broken families around

0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.240
<v Speaker 2>around the back of Rubra, around Lexington Place, which was

0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:34.880
<v Speaker 2>rough mate back in the day.

0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:40.320
<v Speaker 1>It was four hous Yeah, yeah, four houso it still is.

0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.279
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so we just would congregate down the beach together,

0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.599
<v Speaker 2>surf together, train together, and that's that's what sort of

0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.560
<v Speaker 2>brought us together. The surf and the training and some

0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.200
<v Speaker 2>of some broken families and yeah, I just have each

0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.760
<v Speaker 2>other's backs and for as long as we possibly could

0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.400
<v Speaker 2>and then yes, we sort of all fell apart at

0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.839
<v Speaker 2>some stage and now we're back together again.

0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.279
<v Speaker 1>What period are we talking about now, which will be.

0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, through nineties, nineties, nineties, early two thousands. Yeah, through that,

0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:12.640
<v Speaker 2>through that period.

0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I had a lot of people these sort of

0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.040
<v Speaker 1>semi terrified you know, like the B Boys have turned

0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.800
<v Speaker 1>up to a venue or something happened and the B

0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Boys would turn up to the venue because in response

0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.839
<v Speaker 1>to that, and you know, I got being your niece

0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of Suburbs gang. It's not that scary because he expects

0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.560
<v Speaker 1>them to sort of come out from out west somewhere.

0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:40.719
<v Speaker 1>But you guys, I see stories about some of the

0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.839
<v Speaker 1>you guys training and things like jiu jitsu when jiujits

0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.039
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even heard of. I mean it was, but it

0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a thing training actually how to fight, how to scrap.

0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Then I see some stories where you turn up at

0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.600
<v Speaker 1>events or a bar or a nightclub or something of

0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.039
<v Speaker 1>that and just take control. And the coppers even have

0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.719
<v Speaker 1>told me stories about once there was a massive conflict

0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.440
<v Speaker 1>between the BRA Boys and the cops in a bar.

0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you see much of that stuff? Yeah?

0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I saw it all. So some funny only enough. Two

0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Brazilians moved to Rubra probably twenty five years ago and

0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.520
<v Speaker 2>they were both jiu jitsu. One was a ju black belt,

0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Bruno Paro and Alex Prattz who's now one of Rob

0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Whittaker's main jiu jitsu coaches. They moved to Rubra just

0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.640
<v Speaker 2>by coincidence and they both knew jiujitsu really well, so

0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.919
<v Speaker 2>they bought jiu jitsu to Rubra twenty five years ago

0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and we all started then, but the jiu jitsu wasn't

0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.520
<v Speaker 2>even really talked about back then. We saw it on

0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.159
<v Speaker 2>sort of the early days of UFC, those before even.

0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.520
<v Speaker 1>USC started, the early MMA days, early MMA.

0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Days, like way back when it was cage and no

0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.960
<v Speaker 2>rules and the grace graces had coming in their gees

0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and that's dominating. That's all we knew about it. So

0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.880
<v Speaker 2>we were like, we're so interested in it and like

0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.880
<v Speaker 2>learning and learning a different martial art because we all

0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.159
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of boxing as well. Yeah, and so yeah,

0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.200
<v Speaker 2>that's where it all eventuated from, and then it just

0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.839
<v Speaker 2>grew from there. Yeah. We used to like talking about

0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the police fight that was one of my mates twenty

0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.600
<v Speaker 2>first that was Yeah, that was a shocker, like for

0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.680
<v Speaker 2>both Yeah, Like looking back on it now, like it

0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.600
<v Speaker 2>was just an all in brawl and it was a

0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of frustration and anger that come out because the

0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.640
<v Speaker 2>cops were on one level and then the boys were

0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.440
<v Speaker 2>on another level. That was a for Christmas party police

0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Christmas party. Boys were on another level, and it just

0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.400
<v Speaker 2>turned into this massive all in brawl.

0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.080
<v Speaker 1>It was always going to happen. There was always going

0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to happen if they were there holding their function, there

0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.280
<v Speaker 1>holding your functions. It was always going to happen.

0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.200
<v Speaker 2>It's always going to happen. It was just a bit

0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.520
<v Speaker 2>of a shocker. Whoever booked both both parties on the

0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:48.000
<v Speaker 2>same night.

0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Why did you? Why do I mean you didn't come

0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.440
<v Speaker 1>from a bad you know, upbringing, I mean you lived

0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.280
<v Speaker 1>in rub but why did you join up?

0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.160
<v Speaker 2>It was just because I surf there and was a

0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.960
<v Speaker 2>local down the beach and we sort of there was

0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.920
<v Speaker 2>this side of it where we wanted to make the

0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.280
<v Speaker 2>beach safe because the beach was a dangerous place. And

0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:10.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a side of it where we wanted to

0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.560
<v Speaker 2>make the beach safe for our mums and grandmothers and

0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:19.880
<v Speaker 2>every sisters. And there was everything that was rapes, there

0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.600
<v Speaker 2>was there was like women. You know, it wasn't a

0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.880
<v Speaker 2>safe place for women and kids to walk around. At

0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.480
<v Speaker 2>some stages. There's a lot of drugs, there's a lot

0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.480
<v Speaker 2>of alcoholism. So the idea of that was to make

0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the play safe. And then it did start to like

0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.720
<v Speaker 2>it went one way so far that it turned into

0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.680
<v Speaker 2>something was way more than just making the play safe.

0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.400
<v Speaker 2>It turned into more of a gang. To be honest,

0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.280
<v Speaker 2>that's how it's sort of that's where it comes.

0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.160
<v Speaker 1>From and what killed it off sort of thing.

0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Mate. The main thing was prescription drugs, I would say

0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.800
<v Speaker 2>again to be honest, valum of that, valiums and x

0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:05.079
<v Speaker 2>oxy cotton. Those two the big ones. They were that

0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.800
<v Speaker 2>when they because back in the day, people didn't realize

0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.559
<v Speaker 2>how dangerous they were because I come from over the counter,

0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.040
<v Speaker 2>so you think, oh, yeah, it's from the camas, it

0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.280
<v Speaker 2>can't be that bad. And then it just hit like

0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.559
<v Speaker 2>it was rampant and you didn't even need a prescription.

0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.839
<v Speaker 2>You could go get it off the street for you know,

0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.920
<v Speaker 2>hardly anything. It was cheaper than all the other drugs

0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and alcohol to cheaper than alcohol, cheaper than cocaine, and

0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.679
<v Speaker 2>it tore the boys apart like that. Again, that's to

0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.680
<v Speaker 2>be honest, it was a downfall.

0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and today, do you still have a new contact

0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:40.520
<v Speaker 1>with the guys.

0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. I'm going to go down the Bay Pub

0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.000
<v Speaker 2>after this and have a couple of beers with the

0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.360
<v Speaker 2>boys and yeah, and they're all dads now, they're all

0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.400
<v Speaker 2>That scene's finished. Yeah, Like it's so good to see,

0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.599
<v Speaker 2>like everyone's got young kids. Was a beautiful place to

0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.079
<v Speaker 2>bring your family up now, yeah, like it's safe and

0:09:55.240 --> 0:10:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it's it's fucking expensive. Yeah, so mate, it's honestly, like

0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.360
<v Speaker 2>it's probably one of the that's one of the best

0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.240
<v Speaker 2>things to come out of it. It went full circle.

0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Everyone learned their lesson and yeah, the dad's or you know,

0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.760
<v Speaker 2>got families, family men and growing up a bit grown up. Yeah,

0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.160
<v Speaker 2>you crap out of that ship. Yeah you don't need it.

0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.439
<v Speaker 1>You don't need that, and the ship off your liver,

0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Like it's the world's not to blame. Yeah, it's you know,

0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.559
<v Speaker 1>we've got to take some responsibility, I guess. And I'm

0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.080
<v Speaker 1>not here preaching to people like I'm the last person

0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.959
<v Speaker 1>to do it, but yeah, but I guess when you're young,

0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to sort of blame everybody else and then

0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:33.800
<v Speaker 1>take take things in your own head.

0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like no one put those pills down anyone's throat

0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.240
<v Speaker 2>but the boys yourselves. So you can't make excuses, but

0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it was a life lesson and just let that know

0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.480
<v Speaker 2>for the younger generations that those drugs aren't safe.

0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:48.720
<v Speaker 1>As long as I've ever known you, and I met

0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you through GINGE originally, and David would have been David's

0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.520
<v Speaker 1>sixty soon and I'm first meet him when he was

0:10:54.640 --> 0:11:00.319
<v Speaker 1>thirty yep, maybe even a bit younger than that. You've

0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.400
<v Speaker 1>always been in the fitness because you know, he's always

0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.920
<v Speaker 1>been talking about you know, Johnny's doing this. I'm a

0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.400
<v Speaker 1>one period there. You know you were just telling me

0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that you would used to talk about putting your feet

0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:17.560
<v Speaker 1>on the grass. Yeah, and you're always looking at different things.

0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Where where's that sort of curiosity about I'm not going

0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk about training, there's just general health.

0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I try and keep an open mind on the

0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.040
<v Speaker 2>whole everything that comes through the industry, Like have a

0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.959
<v Speaker 2>crack at it and see what works before I sort

0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.400
<v Speaker 2>of start using it on clients or or giving advice

0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.319
<v Speaker 2>on it, that's for sure. So I give it a

0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.439
<v Speaker 2>crack myself. And yeah, just the whole earthing thing and

0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.360
<v Speaker 2>anything else, like especially for recovery. I'm being on recovery

0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:46.800
<v Speaker 2>and destressing.

0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Because what do I mean distressing.

0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just noticed that if you're in a stress state,

0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.600
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to lose body fat, and it's really

0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.280
<v Speaker 2>hard to put on the muscle mass because you're stressed

0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and training and everything's another stress on the body. So

0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I always look at ways to recover. So I'm looking

0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.120
<v Speaker 2>at like obviously the basic ones that's breath work, hot

0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.120
<v Speaker 2>like hot cold immersions, and then yeah, earthing, and and

0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.199
<v Speaker 2>now I'm big on just even just lying back on

0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.360
<v Speaker 2>your back and just doing five or ten minutes of

0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:18.280
<v Speaker 2>meditation a day.

0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Is John Gannon talking meditation a day? But a but

0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a fair evolution if I just go way way

0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.640
<v Speaker 1>back though, let me just creep back into this, this

0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.560
<v Speaker 1>whole process, because you just covered a lot of ground.

0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Then you've always you said to me, you would be

0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.640
<v Speaker 1>fair to say that you keep up to date with

0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:50.000
<v Speaker 1>all the latest developments through some sort of structure in

0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.440
<v Speaker 1>terms of your own life and research, Like I mean,

0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.439
<v Speaker 1>what do you what are you accessing before Google? Before

0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.000
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about now? What were accessing? Say, twenty

0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:58.439
<v Speaker 1>years ago.

0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Twenty years ago, Well, I went over and study with

0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.959
<v Speaker 2>these guys from the States who taught foundation training, and

0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.439
<v Speaker 2>it's what is that it's a postural sort of awareness

0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.360
<v Speaker 2>movement patterns where you can do it no equipment. All

0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.640
<v Speaker 2>you're doing is really engaging in the back of your body.

0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Because these guys are doing it now, I'm trying to

0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.520
<v Speaker 2>sit up straight, you know.

0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's a conscious it's.

0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Conscious consciously sitting up and making sure because if we

0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.960
<v Speaker 2>sit so you so you imagine you're sitting there looking

0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.640
<v Speaker 2>at your device, You're hunched over, your shoulders round forward,

0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.800
<v Speaker 2>your head migrates forward, and you try and take a

0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.960
<v Speaker 2>big breath in that position. It doesn't happen because your

0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:37.120
<v Speaker 2>sternum's pushed down into your diaphragm. Ribcage doesn't expand properly.

0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.839
<v Speaker 2>But as soon as you sit straight, shoulders back, take

0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.199
<v Speaker 2>a big breath in, you'll access your diaphragm and that

0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.280
<v Speaker 2>nice expansion of the rib cage. So I'm into I'm

0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.640
<v Speaker 2>really into teaching people that side of wellness, like not

0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.320
<v Speaker 2>just strength and conditioning and in the gym and bashing

0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.439
<v Speaker 2>yourself up. I'm looking at like the simpler ways to

0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.679
<v Speaker 2>for the other twenty three hours the day you're out

0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.760
<v Speaker 2>of the gym. How to teach people how to sit, stand, move, breathe.

0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm right into that side of it.

0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, why is it important, then, Johnny, for example, to

0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.400
<v Speaker 1>be able to be able to breathe properly from your

0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.640
<v Speaker 1>belly expanding your diaphram What what?

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:16.880
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Why is anyway?

0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you are in that hunched over a position

0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.120
<v Speaker 2>and you're taking those little shallow chest breaths, your body

0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.240
<v Speaker 2>recognizes that as a stressed out state. Your heart rate

0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 2>lifts up a little and you're you're not breathed, you're

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.600
<v Speaker 2>not relaxed, you're in that sort of sympathetic state. When

0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you sit up straight and you access diaphragm and breathe

0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.760
<v Speaker 2>it correctly, you go into more of that parasympathetic state

0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and your heart rate all lower, so you're a bit

0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you're relaxed. You're in a bit more of a relaxed state,

0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.720
<v Speaker 2>and that's when you recover because you're in that parasympathetic state.

0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.600
<v Speaker 2>That's the rest digest state that we're looking for. And

0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.680
<v Speaker 2>especially if you are stressed, like you know, there is

0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stress around the moment. I don't know

0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.840
<v Speaker 2>if you notice, Like obviously financial stress with interest rates,

0:14:58.920 --> 0:14:59.880
<v Speaker 2>cost of living.

0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 1>The deal stress, what's going to well.

0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Stress massive one, like who knows it totally, you know,

0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.440
<v Speaker 2>And there's a fair bit of sickness in the community,

0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.960
<v Speaker 2>like Influenza's another big stress on the body. So that's

0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.440
<v Speaker 2>why I'm even now, I'm just noticing with clients and

0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.640
<v Speaker 2>friends and family, just to get down and do five, ten, fifteen,

0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes, whatever time you've got, just to get down

0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and do a bit of breath work, lie down, guided meditation,

0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.120
<v Speaker 2>like you've got a headspace app. We've got just easy

0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to YouTube's twenty minutes relaxing relaxside timer. Yeah, that's all

0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.120
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. Yeah, you just get down and just give

0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.280
<v Speaker 2>yourself fifteen, twenty, whatever it is, what time you've got,

0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.320
<v Speaker 2>just try and get into that parasympathetic state and just yeah, destress.

0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So maybe I just get you to explain the difference

0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in the sympathetic cita and the parasympathetics set. They're actually

0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.840
<v Speaker 1>are the opposites to what you would expect. They are confused.

0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.800
<v Speaker 1>So the sympathetic state is what it's a stressed outside.

0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.920
<v Speaker 1>So your body is stresses, ye stout, heart.

0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Rates, elevated levels are up. You're not. You have shallow

0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.160
<v Speaker 2>upper respiratory breathing. You're not. You're not in that relaxed state.

0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.560
<v Speaker 2>So what I try to do is get people down

0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.240
<v Speaker 2>in the other way, go the other direction, because it's

0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.520
<v Speaker 2>all right to be in that sympathetic state, but not

0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.560
<v Speaker 2>for long periods of time, like we use it to say, competition.

0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, you get into that sympathetic state, let's go,

0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm reaped up, adrenaline's up, but you need you can't

0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.640
<v Speaker 2>stay at that level for long periods of time because

0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.400
<v Speaker 2>stress is detrimental to your health, like your heart health,

0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.720
<v Speaker 2>your physical health, your mental health. So that's why, especially

0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in the challenges I do, I add a de stress

0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.400
<v Speaker 2>element to one of the foundations of the of the challenge.

0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.720
<v Speaker 1>So now let's just talk about so I think most

0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.960
<v Speaker 1>people want to send with the sympathetic state is or

0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:58.320
<v Speaker 1>most people have experienced that's a cortisol adrenaline, sure breath, panicky,

0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and it can be any it sets you off. Probably

0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.440
<v Speaker 1>most people don't realize, as you just explained, that you

0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.879
<v Speaker 1>can put your body, you can put yourself in a

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.119
<v Speaker 1>position that your body thinks it's in that stressful position,

0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.680
<v Speaker 1>but just both through posture, bad posture. That's talk about

0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:21.080
<v Speaker 1>then parasympathetic. Parasympathic is about recovery. And we've never really

0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:25.200
<v Speaker 1>thought like most people, especially training, it's never really thought

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.760
<v Speaker 1>about recovery or all were thinking about is training, train, train,

0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.720
<v Speaker 1>more training, do miss out trying to do another training session? Going,

0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I get two in for the day we're going And

0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that's all about stress. That's pretty stress in your body.

0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Let's give us give me a little bit of an

0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.040
<v Speaker 1>understanding about this recovery process from your point of view,

0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Like what are we talking about here is let's just

0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:50.480
<v Speaker 1>put let's put meditation aside, metal stuff. But what do

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you mean by recovery?

0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:56.000
<v Speaker 2>So, like like we just spoke about, like when we're

0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.600
<v Speaker 2>in that stressed out states, it's okay, but you need

0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.200
<v Speaker 2>to come back down into that recovery state and it

0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.520
<v Speaker 2>really helps with your sleep patterns. Okay, And there's there's

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.120
<v Speaker 2>obviously there's different ways to do that. There's hot cold

0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>immersions that are really popular at the moment. That's why

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.640
<v Speaker 2>all those recovery centers are so popular at the moment,

0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.760
<v Speaker 2>which is great. It's it's a really good form of

0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.119
<v Speaker 2>taking inflammation out of the body, which is another stress.

0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you're inflamed, you hold onto inflammation. So

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 2>that's if you can bring that down, that's massive and

0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you just add through cold hot cold. You can do

0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever protocol you want. You can do three minutes in

0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the cold, two minutes in the hot, whatever suits you.

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell people that one. Some people just love

0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>doing the saunas, some people just love doing the cold,

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:46.560
<v Speaker 2>some people like doing a bit of both. Yeah, that

0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:47.760
<v Speaker 2>that's a massive one.

0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So sort of trying to manage your inflammation inflammation when

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.240
<v Speaker 1>we train. Yeah, it's information.

0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Joints, dehydrated, bit inflamed, So we're looking at hydrating as well.

0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:00.760
<v Speaker 1>What about hydration?

0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Then hydration is a massive form of recovery.

0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:05.359
<v Speaker 1>So what would we talk me? So, how do I

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:06.480
<v Speaker 1>know if I'm not hydrating?

0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.320
<v Speaker 2>This is sounding like I'm a fanatical here, But I

0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.240
<v Speaker 2>get on the scales. I get on the scales a

0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 2>couple of times a day because I know I sit

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.240
<v Speaker 2>on ninety two kilos. If I go for a surf

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and have a train, I'll come in back in at

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 2>ninety kilos. I know I've got to drink two leaves

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.680
<v Speaker 2>of water to get back up. I know I haven't

0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.479
<v Speaker 2>lost two kilos of fat or muscle. I've lost two

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 2>kilos of fluid. So I'll could jump on the scales.

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm ninety kilos. I'll drink a liter of water. I'm

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.600
<v Speaker 2>back up to ninety one. I'll drink another and I

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.960
<v Speaker 2>just try and balance my hydration like that. It's not

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:38.760
<v Speaker 2>a bad way to do it. I had a bit

0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.760
<v Speaker 2>of electrolytes in the water, a bit of potassium, magnesium,

0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 2>and salt. No sugar, no sugar, I don't even I

0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.119
<v Speaker 2>just keep it salty. I don't have no flavoring at all.

0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Some people love flavoring. I just keep it salty and minerally.

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.159
<v Speaker 1>And your body actually ac funally I have that's just

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.160
<v Speaker 1>full soul. So there too my body. I think, initially,

0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:58.639
<v Speaker 1>go ah, I can't. I don't want to drink this

0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.359
<v Speaker 1>because you set a puke. But but then your body

0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 1>tells you likes it. It likes to it likes the

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>souldness goodness.

0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.280
<v Speaker 2>You dap to it pretty quick.

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting what you just said about you go for

0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a surf. I know, if like when I was just

0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to have to cut weight. Thank god, those days have

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to cut weight. I know, I'd always love it when

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 1>we had the if in the amateurs, you weigh in

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the morning. You've got to win every morning. But you

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.520
<v Speaker 1>weigh in the morning. And I said, like the way

0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.240
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, because if I so, it gave a

0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 1>bit at nine o'clock, whatever, ten o'clock. Then I wake

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.240
<v Speaker 1>up the next morning at say six or seven o'clock.

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.159
<v Speaker 1>And let's say you go to the bathroom, do that business.

0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Just through that nighttime. You lose a kilo, but just

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 1>your bodies use it up, and you're breathing and you're sweating,

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and you a bit dehydrated, and you can I haven't

0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>lost any muscle or any battering, and it's just lost

0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>flouid water and and a load of water as a killer.

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the usual general rule straight back on exactly the

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 1>leader water is one killer. Wait, if you've lost one

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>killer weight after a heavy training session, it's not because

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you lost a killer fat. You lost a killer water.

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.639
<v Speaker 1>And it's not a bad rule, which means you got

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to replace it and to replace it with a killer

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>with the leader of water.

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Because you feel like shit, you feel like you've you've

0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.360
<v Speaker 2>run down. You feel fatigued, that's dehydrated.

0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Use gloss of clarity in your brain because you've.

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Brained you get a bit of a headache. That's the

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 2>first line of dehydration.

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Because I watched these I was watching. I've watched fighters

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 1>or boxing matches all the time, and I was watching

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the other day. I won't say it is something well

0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.240
<v Speaker 1>known in Australia. I've got to be disappointed with the

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>corner because I noticed that two things. You know, after

0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>about round five or six in a pro fight with

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 1>three minute rounds, your body temperature goes up to about

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 1>forty forty one degrees, quite dangerous, like if you were

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a little kid. Every one of your kids temper is

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.320
<v Speaker 1>forty of yours. To the hospital and you're and you're

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 1>burning a lot of fluid. And I noticed that they

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 1>weren't giving putting any ice on his head to cool

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>down his core temperature, and they weren't. He wasn't drinking

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:19.119
<v Speaker 1>much water. And I thought of himself, what happens in

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:20.879
<v Speaker 1>that situation, especial if you get hit on the chin,

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 1>like what happens that situation? You start to lose clarity

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and you can't respond to what's in front of you,

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.480
<v Speaker 1>so you can't make good decisions. So if I just

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 1>take that, extrapolate that out into someone who's just a

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 1>normal person out there who doesn't get up in the morning,

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 1>drink a looter of water as soon as you get up.

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't mean immediately, but like I start

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>drinking the water instead, they get up to drink cofee.

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Do I drink yourself anymore? So drink some water before

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.639
<v Speaker 1>you drink coffee. But that person, if they don't, This

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>happens a lot of times, as you know, a lot

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of people don't drink and water. Then they go to work,

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.639
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to make decisions, they've had three coffees. They

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.679
<v Speaker 1>wonder why they make mistakes. And that's without any training.

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>That's ad a bit of exercise in there. They really dehydrate.

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>So how do you get into your client's head, the

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>ones you train, the ones you look after, how do

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you get into their head?

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Can you change this? Because there's a lifestyle change all

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>these people I mean like drink water. Do you put

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:19.479
<v Speaker 1>them on a program?

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't. What I do is just so you constantly

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 2>have a bottle of water with you, going by a

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>good quality water bottle, good stainless steel one carried around

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.360
<v Speaker 2>with no place. No plastic.

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, no plastic.

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Plastic. Even with the BP A free plastic, I forget.

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust it, especially if it's in the sun

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 2>and all that. By a good stainless steel water bottle,

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you can have it for until you lose it. I've

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>lost a million of them.

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I've got as because I've got so many bottles, and

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:52.160
<v Speaker 1>everyone leaves them at the gym.

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I've got a collection of them because everyone runs out

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 2>on a bit of a high out of the gym,

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 2>they leave their water bottle. Thatt. But yeah, carry a

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>water with it well at all times. And I find

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a good quality electrolyte that you like that's got the magnesium,

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the potassium, and the salt in it. Because you see

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.479
<v Speaker 2>people say at the end of a marathon when they

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 2>when they when they lose their coordination and they hit

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>the wall, it's called that all that is is lack

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>of minerals in the body.

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 1>So you sweated it out.

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 2>You've sweated all the minerals out of your body. So

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the potassium, magnesium, and salt, if they had that, the

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 2>electrical currents that go through your body. It connects your brains.

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>The little signals that run through through your nervous system.

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.399
<v Speaker 2>They don't fire because they need they need those minerals

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 2>as a current to fire, to conduct, to conduct, and

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 2>they they've gone. It's depleted. So that's why they just

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 2>turned into jellyfish. They can't stand up. That's exactly why

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 2>we need to stay hydrated. And that's an extreme.

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>There's extreme version, but it doesn't matter. It does affect people.

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean old school guys like I can remember Isaid

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>trainers guy Gary Stemware stumbles and we would go out

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:07.719
<v Speaker 1>on Friday. This is what we do Friday. We get

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>on the Friday. We're going to train, train to ass

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>off after work really hard, no no, no hydration, straight

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to the park, drink ten beers.

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 2>That's old school.

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>And then Saturday morning, Sat Day, lunchtime around eleven o'clock,

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>find the hottest part of the day. Anyway, backpack fill

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>full of sand and we used to go for a run.

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And you wonder why you get fucking injuries like bad news,

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>bad whatever you get, you get, you wonder why, But

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that was what we used to do, like back in

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>those days, you get we were young, so you sort

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>of get away with it, but still that old school system.

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I think what people like you were

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to do is you're trying to bring back some intelligence,

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>some thought process based on science. You're not just making

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>shit up. It's based on science.

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I follow, you know, I've got my people.

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I follow one ye who gives it gives an example, follow.

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Ronda Patrick. She's she's an American woman and she's

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 2>clued up on she she breaks she breaks down all

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 2>the science of all the later.

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Studies about exercise.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 2>About nutrition, exercise, movement, hydra like sleep, hydration.

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>She's really good, doctor Ronda Patrick Patrick.

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yep, she's she's cool. I just like the way she

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>explains things like I couldn't read a scientific paper to

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>save myself, but she breaks it down really well. Yeah. Her.

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>And then as there's a few others I follow that

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I posted here up a bit. There's a few other

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 2>few others I follow, but it's pretty interesting. It just

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 2>interests me that side of it, and I think it's

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>a way forward because again it comes down to recovery.

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 2>The better you recover, the better you train. So that's

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>that's the way I look at it as well. Because

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 2>if you're recovering through hydro hydration through hot cold immersions,

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the better your next performance is when you train. The

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 2>more like you're saying, cognitive connection you've got with your

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>body when you train, Because when I'm training someone, I'm

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 2>not too worried about reps and sets. I'm more thinking

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>about how can I get this person to move better

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>through cognitive sort of movement with intent. So I'm saying,

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>slow down, move with intent, move like think about what

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 2>you're going to do, like purposeful movement like it's all

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and it works so much better than just you know,

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>when you see people at the gym and they're just

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 2>just getting through the reps and sets for the sake

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>of it, there's no thought in what they're doing at all.

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, you know, we're just saying, if you're

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>going to exercise, have a strategy.

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Have strategy, and move move with purpose like you just said,

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and intent, and it's more cognitive. You just connect with

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>a movement way better slow it down and then work

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>on speeding it up.

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>So when you because obviously about this the other day,

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought, because you know this project, I'm trying to

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>work out how to optimize myself to get one hundre

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>years of age. And I thought of himself, well, I really, Mark,

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>what are you training for? What do you want to

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>achieve with your training? Therefore that should inform you us

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 1>what type of training I should do. And then I

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>thought of himself, well, you know, when i'm let's say

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>when i'm ninety, if I get there, but if i'm

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>ninety'd be great. If i'm I've either got great grandsons

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>or grandson daughters, whatever. And let's say they're two, and

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>let's say they're weigh twelve kilos. Can I bend down

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and pick that kid up functionally? So I think to myself, Okay,

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>well Mark, maybe now at my age, now you've got

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to start training for that day with movement and to

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>exercise that sort of mimics that process because you don't

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>want to be at ninety. Either you can't do it

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and you're frail, or.

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>The parents don't trust you're picking up the baby because.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>So Dad don't do it. Alternately, I do it. I

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>injure myself. And then because once you injure yourself with

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that age, you're in trouble for a long time, a

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>long time. That's that's hips backs you do a knee

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and you don't as we're going to hit a back

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>operation or hip operation that in those periods. So you've

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>got to have enough flex and muscle and strength and

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever and body muscle memory, et cetera to be able

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to do these things. So how important is it for

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>people when you say purpose? Well, how important is for

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>people to sort of actually say, Okay, that's the function

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to do. So I don't

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>really need to go and do girls, I'm not going

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to be curling the kid. I'm going to be using

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>my Yeah.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 2>You're going to hinge and you're going to use a

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>nice smooth hippi.

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And what's the right technique? That's it a technique body technique.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 2>You can get down into a nice deep squat pattern

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 2>or a nice deep hip hinge. Do you do that? Yeah,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>you look definitely. And you know what, that is a

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>great motivator what you just mentioned. They've been able to

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>keep up with your future grand your kids, grand kids.

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>That's such a good motivator. Or it is for me,

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>but it is it should be for a everyone.

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, But do you find that John,

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that like when you get to you need is it

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>just a function of say, someone gets to my age,

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's only when we start thinking about it. Because

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and even you now you know in your fifties, when

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you were thirty, mate, yeah, a lot of stuff you

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>would have thought about you just I mean when I

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>was with I was just rippetage whatever, and I didn't

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and I applied that sort of attitude everything I did, work, sport, everything.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm older, do you feel as though we need

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to start to educate people, at least in our country,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>educate younger people. And I don't want to be a

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.239
<v Speaker 1>lecture in anyone, but educate them about the benefits are

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>starting early the thinking process.

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>That's a hard person Like you're saying, it's a pretty

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>hard cell to get people in their thirties start thinking

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>about movement when they're sixty.

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>You seeing any of this?

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Not really, No, I see it more now with our age, Yeah, definitely,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>But when you're that age, like you're saying, it's working

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 2>play hard, bulletproof, which is understandable. Yeah, your bulletproof. You

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>couldn't care what's going to happen to your body in

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>five weeks time. You just want to look good. And

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>saying that vanity is a great motivator as well.

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Totally like, because you're leaner than it used to be. Yeah,

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>if I go back to eight twenty years, I reckon

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you would have been I don't know, maybe just ten years,

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>ten killers.

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably five.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>You're much Yeah to put on used to put on muscle,

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty but now you're more lean.

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm pretty lean.

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I try and stay around ninety two. That's like

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>a pretty happy medium for me. But I have to

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>eat to stay at ninety two.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Could we talk about that then? Eating it's like take

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>my my age example, the amount of food like briefas

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and gins as you know. And by the way, he

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>gave me enough information to stitch you up.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>He loves it. But I'm not going to do it.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but because because Ainy is I'm not doing because

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make him think how good? How

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>good is this? Johnny gets stitched up? So there are

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>some stories I know I'm going to tell you. But anyway,

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>thanks Mane. But Ginjo said to me on SAT. Day,

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>he said, mate, you just got to eat less, And

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought, yeah, but it's relative to the amount of

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>exercise I'm and I don't want to eat less. And

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>get too skinny. Yeah, I don't mean skinny in a

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>bad way. I don't want to be like I'm about

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>eighty five. I want to stay thirty five.

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I can.

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>How the fuck can I do it? Though? I mean

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>like it should be taken bro about its like I

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>just don't feel that hungry anymore.

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a bit of a tricky one because I agree

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't like losing going under ninety kilos.

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I look frail and I look. My people go, you

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>lost weight, You look, you don't look that well. It

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't suit me. And I like just holding that weight.

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>So what do you do?

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Like to keep it?

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Definitely do some strength training. Strength I purchase you work

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>to put on lean muscle masks and so that that's

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>resistance training. Resistance training, But what does that mean though?

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean like trying to bench your best bench?

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you doing three of everything or five? What are

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you doing? I do?

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>If I'm trying to put on lean muscle mass in

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>these challenges I run, I do sort of anywhere from

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 2>eight to twelve reps four sets and old school basic.

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>You probably can't do more than ten reps.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Ten to twelve reps ten to twelve reps max, and

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>then I always try and pick away. It's pretty simple

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>where the last three reps are getting really tough, right, Okay,

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>those last three reps you're going and you're getting a

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>nice you feel like you're geting the old school pump,

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the old school burn. That's when I feel like I'm

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>putting on lean muscle.

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Is the reason you want to do eight to ten

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>reps is because that's tearing enough muscle, but without actually

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>tearing too much muscle, but tearing enough so that when

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you recover, when you muscle recovers, it rebuilds.

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>So that REP range is it's a bit up in

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>the air with reps and sets and how many, but

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I find that REP range is pretty easy to teach.

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 2>It keeps people sort of accountable, like you get to

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and you can compare it to your next workout. Even

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>if you go up to sixteen to twenty reps and

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>still get that pump. At the end of sixteen or

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty reps, it's still you're still going to put on

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>lean muscle. So it just depends you can mix up

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>you have to do. I do three to four sets,

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 2>but sometimes if I don't have much time I love

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>this whole concept of if you haven't got much time

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 2>still going workout, because you can still go and and

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>do one set and just absolutely blast yourself. Say you

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>do four exercises, one set, go heavier, do twelve reps,

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>but have a good warm up so you don't injure yourself. Obviously,

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 2>you can go in there and do four exercises twelve reps,

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>but push them to the limit. Like the last two

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 2>reps you are absolutely struggling. It's still you're still going

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 2>to put on your body has to adapt to that

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>stimulus and you're going to put on muscle. I guarantee it.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>So when you run, your group's at leak how is it?

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I find it can be a bit overwhelming because yeah, okay,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do some rabic work. You're got to

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>get it on a bike, run a machine or roll

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>or something. You know, And some people recommend you've got

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to do one hundred and fifty minutes a week going

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, that's the lake. In my case,

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifteen beats a minute. You could have,

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, forty minutes, and you've got to do that

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>three four times a week. Then you've got to do

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>some resistance work minimum two times a week. There's five days,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and then I like to wrestle. If you're doing that

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>three nights a week, all of a sudden, there's no

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>more days. I'm over a day and I'm bugging too.

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm stuffed. So is it best to sort of say, Okay,

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>for this month, I'm going to do I'm just going

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to wrestle. Next month, I'm going to do resistance of

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a month after going do Arabic. I mean, how do

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you do this stuff? Nah?

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Like, I know exactly what you're talking about because I'm

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>on the pretty much the same program. Whereas I think

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 2>instead of doing so much cardio, I think pulling your

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>reps and sets, making short of rest periods so you're

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 2>still keeping your heart when you're doing your strength work,

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 2>you're still keeping your heart rate at about one fifteen,

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 2>which you just said that's your cardio zone, your own

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 2>two cardio. So if you can wear a heart rate monitor,

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 2>do your strength work and go around the gym, it's

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 2>just a bit more of a circuit. So you're still

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>getting your cardio and you're still putting on lean muscle mass.

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 2>That's the way i'd treat that because then you don't

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 2>have to do those extra cardio sessions and you can

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 2>still wrestle and you're still keeping lean muscle mass on.

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's the way I'd try and cover that, because

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I know, doing those cardio sets and doing those two

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>weight sessions a week and wrestling you're going to be

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.919
<v Speaker 2>pretty run down court at our age.

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, as I get old, I find it harder to

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>do eat enough, I find it harder to train enough.

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Like what I think what I used to do, no drama,

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>sleeping enough because I'm exhausted. But like then, but then

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you've got to work in the middle of all that too.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Then you've got to fit working family, and then you've

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>got all your other extended stuff that you've got to do.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And what I was just talking to you about then is,

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>like I guess, is tailor making an excise program for

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.919
<v Speaker 1>someone like you know, getting older? Let me just dial

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it back. How do you tailor make an exercise training

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>program for, say, someone like Taj Borrow who you trained sports?

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Was it sports specific training?

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Definitely on the great surface, one of the great surfaces,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 2>who never who never won anything, who never won. Yeah,

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>so I worked for for seven years on the we

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 2>traveled around the world for seven years. Was his full

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>time trainer.

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>So had that become about through.

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 2>A mate of ours Sammy McIntosh been on the podcast.

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Sam was really good mates with Taj and he knew

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I was training all the Ruba boys and he just

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 2>liked the style that I was training with because he

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>thought Taj needed a bit of a rocket up he's

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>ass to try and win a world title, just a

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 2>bit of a bit more motivation, a bit more grit.

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Did he have too much talent?

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I would say that you see that a lot in

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>all sports. You know, the most talented kids are the

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>ones that don't want to do the work. So my

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>job was to come in and obviously train a bit

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 2>of grit into him, like get him hungry, like want

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>to win. He wanted to win. He's a competitive little bugger,

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 2>but he just just more grit more like, you know,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 2>instead of getting to the end of the comp and going, oh, yeah,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I probably could have done better, but and saying, nah,

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 2>fuck this, I'm going to win this thing. Let's go.

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 2>So that was sort of my role.

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>But but how did how did you tailor make something

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>for him? So because I've had some you know some

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>people someone gain you organized, someone hied my pool and

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>they did look at a twenty five med pill up

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>at the front and you know what film walking underwater

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>rights and which is cool. I was I didn't care,

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>But do you do did you do that sort of stuff?

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Because he's not going to so big I mean, he's

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>going to he's not going to serve dangerous surf. He's

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>probably going to compete at bells or something that they do.

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Go to a couple of dangerous waves like obviously Pipeline

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 2>and chop they were both really very dangerous every dangerous waves,

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.439
<v Speaker 2>which which he sort of he ended up doing really

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>well out at the end of his career out of

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Chopo and we won a Pipemaster, so he won a

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>pipeline when I was training him. So they were two

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:44.760
<v Speaker 2>massive achievements.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Did you get into your water doing that sort of stuff?

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>We did a bit of breath work, but not the

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>rock carrying and all that stuff. We do sort of

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>negative empty lung breath holds. We're getting to exil at

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 2>the top, so he'd sink to the bottom and just

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>in the water in the wa because it's been in

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the water is so much different to doing breath work

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>on land. Yeah, because you obviously you think, fuck if

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I've got to get to the top here, where on

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 2>land you can go, I'll take a breath here. Yeah,

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>so that's that different sort of stimulus.

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but is that control just on that? Is

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that because you've got me curious now, is that you're

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about sort of being able to control your thoughts?

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yep?

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>When you've got no breath left.

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>You go down on exactly it. You go down on

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 2>an empty light. It's got an empty lung. So you'll

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 2>sink if you know you're not at an empty lung,

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>if you float back to the surface. But if you are,

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 2>you go, you breathe, exile all you think everything out

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:40.959
<v Speaker 2>and your CO two builds up a lot quicker.

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a cabonic acids comes quick.

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 2>So you were to try and either find a way

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 2>in your head to say, listen, you're fine, well you're

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>going to relax. You can either sing a song, you

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 2>can pitch yourself driving down the highway, you just keep

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 2>driving to the next whatever it is you want to do.

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 2>You get down there and you hold that breath.

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And is this in order to mimic what happens to

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you when you come off your board, for example.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>And can do it. It can make you feel a

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>lot more comfortable on an empty lung going down and

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 2>just thinking, yeah, I'm all right, I'm all right.

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>How long did you got to stay there for?

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Well? It's funny because I do a bit of work

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 2>with the sharks, with the Carnala sharks these days with FITZI,

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll go down there and do all their recovery stuff

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 2>and we do that pool work and the boys will

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 2>start off, because they're not surfers, they'll start off with

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 2>fifteen seconds and they come to the surface like a

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>torpedo fifteen seconds. They're like, it's that funny watching them,

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 2>but they adapt to it so quick. By the end

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of it. They a lot of them can do a

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 2>minute and a half after doing four rounds on fifteen seconds,

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds, forty five minute, and I'll go to a

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>minute and a half. Yeah, in one in one, like

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 2>one session, one session.

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>And then with Taj so you get him, you do

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>breath work in the water with him. I want to

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>come back to breath work in a moment because I

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>want to picking brains on this. But what what would

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you get him to do for leth would you get

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>him to resistance work?

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, wanted to strengthen him up, turn him into Yeah,

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 2>wanted to create Is.

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>He going to do bench press? What are you going?

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean the only thing he has to lift

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>himself up when he's standing up on it.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>What sort of the way the way they surfers, tube

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>ride and everything. You need that sort of stability and

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 2>strength and balance because if part of the wave falls

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 2>and hit you on the back of the head where

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to come out of the barrel, you need

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that strength and sort of almost like a resilience to

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 2>combat that is that you're talking about leg strength strength,

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 2>hip strength strength and the way they do a turn

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 2>to where they wrap the border around the top of

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the wave and come back around. It's a lot of

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 2>leg strength and core. You look at the young guys now,

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>they're so thick in the legs and the hips and

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 2>the core. So yeah, we did a lot of strength work,

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of like and it doesn't have to

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 2>be heavy squats or heavy dead list. We were doing

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of single legs stuff and split squads and

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 2>single leg Romanian dead lifts just to bring that balance

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>element into it as well, and that sort of approprioception

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 2>around the uncle, knee and hip where he'd get strong

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>in those positions.

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.399
<v Speaker 1>So how did it go with him?

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>So did it?

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Did it change his ranking or did it change How

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>did you measure it? I guess for a better way.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to measure. We just measured it. Like with

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 2>his confidence, how does he feel? He felt unbelievable. Yeah,

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 2>he felt incredible. It was the best he felt in

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 2>his career. So that was that was a big one,

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 2>like how he felt, and it gave him confidence, like

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>when you feel when you feel and strong and resilient,

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you feel confident.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>And who did he have to beat?

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Like who was he was up against? It was a

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>tough run. You know. He had Kelly Slater in his prime.

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 2>He wanted he had him all through him and Taj

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.919
<v Speaker 2>had a crazy rivalry. He had Andy Eins before Andy

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.720
<v Speaker 2>passed away, and then later on he had Mick and Joel.

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>So they were both hum mc fanning and Joel Parkins.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>So they were crazy boys. Yeah, the Bolt of Boys.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 2>They're rich, rich, rich and retired now but they've Yeah,

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>So he had a he had a bit of a

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 2>hard run. Through those through his career.

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's the best people.

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's that's what you want. You want to

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 2>be if you've got to win, you've got to beat

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 2>the best.

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So when you're sitting down with him for those

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>sevent year period, that sevent year period I'm touring with him, Yeah,

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>would you say to him, did any stage you have

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to sort of become his like I don't want to

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>call it mentor, but like help him manage his mind. Definitely,

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not feeling good, I'm going to get there.

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>The highs and loads of professional sports are huge. Like

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>we'd be on the road for pretty much the whole year.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 2>So if you if you go for a bit of

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a bad run like loosed early in three events in

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 2>a row, that the whole sort of camp just feels it.

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Like me, him, his girlfriend, everyone feels a pressure to

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 2>start doing well again. So there was there was times

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 2>where I had to sit him down and say, mate,

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, Like, what's what's going on up here?

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Because physically you're fine. And one thing he would do

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 2>was win an event and be all on a real

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.439
<v Speaker 2>big high and then come into the next event. Because

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>you have to learn how to win. So winning winning

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and losing, You've got to learn how to lose. You

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>have to learn how to win because you can be

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 2>on this super big high and think I've got this

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and then going to the next event, lose first heat

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and then the whole thing comes crashing down. I feel

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>like you've got to start again.

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>So what what what do you do about in terms

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of physical exercise for example, that can help you get

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>through that weird period? Yeah, do you do is there

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>something you would prescribe for him, like in terms of

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>physical exercise?

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably give him a good couple of floggins in

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the gym to get it out of him and point, yeah,

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 2>this is what we're here for. Like nothing like competing

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 2>is going to be easy compared to what we're going

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 2>to do in the gym. Make it really, make it

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 2>really hard, Say fuck it, let's go like competing, Like

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 2>you're you're going to look forward to competing after these

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>next couple of gym sessions. That's one way we used

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 2>to do it. I don't know if it was a

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 2>perfect way, but that's one way that worked for him.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 2>It work for him, That worked for him.

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And how does how does he how do you balance

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that up though, Like you're on the surfing you know circuit.

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>He had his friend with him, but you're on the

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>surfing circuit. Made like surfing is notorious for good times

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and the comps over and you're there with all your

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>mates and everybody's doing the best after after parties. How

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>do you manage that? And not you, but how do you?

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>How does he manage that?

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a good question because there were every place

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>we went to on tour, there'd be a party every night,

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 2>even before the competition started and during competition. Wow, So

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it was it like you had to be really care

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 2>because a couple of the boys did not give a fuck.

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Were that'd see a free and out and go let's.

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Go and then probably some of those guys could turn

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:04.839
<v Speaker 1>up the next thing you go, well, some of them could,

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and that that put really Andrew John's levee.

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe a couple of people did it really well. It

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 2>took the pressure off and you're just like, yeah, I'm sweet,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 2>let's go. Like half a couple of them did it well.

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 2>But we had this thing with Taj where if we

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>keep a bit of a social life and keep you know, on,

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.399
<v Speaker 2>keep not make things boring. We just had this rule.

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 2>If we went out the night before and had a

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.319
<v Speaker 2>few beers, we had to be in the gym at

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>seven am the next morning. There was no whissaw butts,

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>So you could go out and party, but you you'd

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>pay for it the next morning. So it sort of

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>rained it in a bit and it kept kept the

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 2>longevity of his career way longer than I think if

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.320
<v Speaker 2>we just had a went just party and hope.

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>For the best, but you wouldn't party the night before.

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 2>We didn't, but it certainly happened, and then we would

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 2>have a bit of a let the hair down at

0:47:59.239 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 2>the end of the event.

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Hugh said, yeah, after Yeah, the after party.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But even then you have to be on a

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 2>flight the next day.

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>So where does a suger work like? What would just

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>give me a bit of a We.

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Normally start off on the Gold Coast from him and I.

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.720
<v Speaker 2>We'd start off in yelling Up Is from Western Australia,

0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 2>So we do six weeks. So we'd get there on

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the third of January, third or fifth of January, and

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 2>we do six weeks of solid training, surf as much

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 2>as we could, no alcohol and get him lean and

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 2>hungry for Snapper because Snapper was his pet event that

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 2>was Snapper rocks on the Gold Coast this way, Yeah,

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 2>we come straight back over here.

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Then we go to Bell's beach, so they so you

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>go to Snapper then then when you go to his

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Bell's Like, how far away between Snapper and Bell's is

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>in terms of time are we talking about between the events?

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Probably have sometimes it just depended on the waiting periods.

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes we'd have a week, two weeks, just depends.

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 2>So basically you're on all the time, on all the time, mate,

0:48:57.120 --> 0:49:00.919
<v Speaker 2>You going from one to the other. A footy season, yeah, yeah,

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 2>it's brutal and because you're fly, Like then we'd start Brazil, Portugal, Hawaii,

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Hawaii was normally at the end of the season back then,

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and then yeah, Tahiti, Fiji, USA. So we're back and forth,

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like we're on the road hard.

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>So would you set up his food?

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep?

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Everything, yep.

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Food. Just try and eat as best we could, Like

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 2>it was never going to be perfect on the road,

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 2>but we're just try and find. We got it pretty dialed,

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.879
<v Speaker 2>like we'd find the locals, farmers, farmers' markets and we'd

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 2>stay we're here he we could afford to travel pretty comfortably,

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 2>like we'd stay in nice places. Well, yeah, he was

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 2>getting paid a fortune back then, so we could really

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 2>foc He didn't mind spending the money on keeping the

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 2>longevity of his career. He was like, I'm all for

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 2>spent another more few more years on tour than getting

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 2>to a point where I just fall off tour because

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm either broken or unhealthy or sick. So he didn't

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 2>mind looking after himself and obviously the cost of me

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:06.440
<v Speaker 2>being there as well.

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>You you just mentioned Craig Fitzgibbon, the coach Coronulla. Do

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 1>do surfers get as broken? They say something like Fitzy,

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Like fitz he's got lots of injuries from the impact.

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Do surfers get that sort of thing?

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Not that bad?

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>They do have.

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:26.880
<v Speaker 2>They do hit their hips, the hips, their hips go.

0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 2>A lot of them have had hip hip replacements. It's

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 2>normally the back hip. Yeah, so it's a back hip

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the way they drive out of a turn foot that's

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 2>at the back of back foot, back foot, the back

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 2>hipp So Ginger has left hips gone because he's good.

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:45.240
<v Speaker 2>He's like an old out station. They're both gone. He's sweet.

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>My brother just had hipp version and my brother's on

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>austrains surfing astraight whatever, it's the ginge. My brother's right,

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>he's right, he's a. He's a. He's not a good foot.

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>He just rides a regular surfer in his right foot,

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>right hip, right hip, and he's had his right hip

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>done beginning this year. But now he can't surf a

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>him with his stuff. But that's interesting. I never thought

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>about that because I was thinking myself, he's served on

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>more thannighted. I stopped surfing like it was just too

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>hard to surf locally. I couldn't stand. He kept going,

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, I wonder if one of myself

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:24.239
<v Speaker 1>is as a genetic, Am I going to get his

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 1>younger than I? Am? I going to get it in

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years time? Thank god?

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now I know what it is.

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It could be that you're right.

0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 2>It probably was not. I can't say yeah, but that's

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 2>a that's a big chance. It's his back hip. He's

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 2>a natural surfer, he's right hip.

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Because you'll notice, I saw a funny thing, is I

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.919
<v Speaker 2>sat talking about hips. I saw a photo with Taj

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 2>and Joel Parko they're both natural footers and they're standing together.

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Their left foot was straight, their right foot was but

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 2>both of them were standing like that with their right

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 2>foot like that. So it's all their external rotators at

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the hip that just drawn.

0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Bottle and get it to you know, because the foot

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 1>they step back on the back foot the foot the

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>pushing back back and I know those boxes had hip

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>operations on the back foot. Yeah, that's interesting that like

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 1>if you do it for too long and anything, I

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>guess anything like that. I just want to you mentioned

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 1>breath work. So I recently took my senior staff up

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 1>to my farm and doesn't know or something like that,

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and I bought in a breath work lady because I

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>thought to give them a new experience. I got onto

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 1>through robber Trent Robinson, and because Trent likes to try

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 1>different things like this, and and I it was interesting.

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>So basically I just quickly explained to it if I'm wrong,

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>but basically, you breathe in and our three mouth big breaths.

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>But you do it for quite a long time, it

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't you don't do it ten times we went for

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I think about forty five minutes or something like that.

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But the difference between everybody was amazing. Like one person

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>fell asleep, another person actually started to.

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Cry yep, like people get very emotional.

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>In my case, I got, I felt, I felt really,

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I got really clear head and I started thinking about

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 1>things I need to do my business. I got, I

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>got really a hell of a clarity, and I felt

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>quite energized. I felt, I felt good. And everybody had

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>different sort of outcomes and I would never thought so

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just from breathing in and out. Do you do much

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of that with.

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Your Yeah, there's heaps of it. There's some really good

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 2>breath coaches up there. Yeah, it's unreal, It's I love it.

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you do that's you know, whim half Yeah, guru

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>of it all?

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you? I have have done, been to

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:46.239
<v Speaker 2>a couple of whim seminars over the years. Yeah, and

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 2>got in the ice after it, but that was years ago.

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>But I I do, I don't really go. I love

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 2>it and I go to a beautiful place like free drugs,

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 2>almost like tearing down the arms, tingling your face, go

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 2>to a different place. It feels amazing.

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>But I you do it on your own, you do

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it with a personation through it.

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I like to be do it guided you get more

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 2>out of it, I think, because then you don't have

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 2>to think you're not looking at the stop watch. You've

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 2>got someone telling you how to do it. I love

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 2>someone showing me how to do it and different different

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.600
<v Speaker 2>aspects of it, like you learn from other people, obviously,

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:28.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I love it and I get a great

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 2>experience out of it, and I always feel better than

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:33.879
<v Speaker 2>before I started it, feel way better.

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, and you mentioned meditation. I sort of had

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a riview bit, but yeah, just I

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>know there's lots of apps around that you can use.

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Why is meditation? How is it that it's become so

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 1>acceptable more accepted? Once upon time it's all about whoo

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>people doing it? They basically up and viron or wherever.

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Well they're sitting on a mountain and to bed or something,

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 1>or there are monks, but meditation has form part of it.

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I do it every day, and even if I need

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>do five minutes, it's okay. And even if I just

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it properly, I still try to do

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it because I think it obviously, But why do you

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:20.320
<v Speaker 1>think meditation has become so acceptable today? It's really necessary.

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:24.439
<v Speaker 2>Definitely because of mental health. I think there's so much

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 2>we're so much more aware of mental health these days,

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and we're so much more like I don't know if

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot more of it in society, but where

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:37.320
<v Speaker 2>people are more open about speaking about it. So I

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:40.439
<v Speaker 2>think it's more acceptable to meditate because if that helps

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 2>your mental health, then why not accept it.

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:45.839
<v Speaker 1>And it's acceptable to have a problem with mental health

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>or recognize you recognize.

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:50.120
<v Speaker 2>About it and talk about it and then go and

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 2>do your whatever it is that suits you, like I've got.

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>You see a lot of online people saying, oh, look

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 2>at these blokes doing heavy dead list. It's bad for

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.120
<v Speaker 2>their back. But I know mates that suffer from a

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 2>little bit of mental healthy're not too bad. But they'll

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:04.959
<v Speaker 2>get in the gym, put their headphones on and lift

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 2>heavy weights, and the mental health they feel so much

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 2>better when they walk out of the gym. So there's

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 2>no What I'm saying is there's no right and wrong

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 2>with what people should be exercising or the way they

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 2>do things, because they might be doing it for their

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>mental health, that they might have found a way that

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 2>clears their head and makes them feel resilient when they

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:29.440
<v Speaker 2>walk out of whatever they're doing the gym meditation, So

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:33.440
<v Speaker 2>why sit there and judge what they're doing when you

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know it could be for their mental health. And

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that's why that's getting back to the question. That's why

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I think meditation is so acceptable these days.

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So in your training programs that you put together for

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 1>your clients, we've touched on breath work, we've touched on meditation,

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:59.720
<v Speaker 1>we've touched on types of exercise. You've talked about sleep,

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and you talked about nutrition intuition. You have food and

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>hydration really important. Because we talk about doing the right food.

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:09.800
<v Speaker 1>You've got to talk about drinking the rent amount of

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.000
<v Speaker 1>water or whatever the case may be. But whatever it

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 1>is you're drinking, electrolytes and stuff. That all gets put together.

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 1>That's a quite a big package for people to digest,

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>especially they're new to this. If it's not their goal,

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>they're fifty a bit able to wait what may be

0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>or were maybe the individual is a sports person before

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't really done anything. They've gone to the doctor,

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>doctor's done a blood test. They said, listen to your

0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 1>chlestuous to ailh blah blah blah, you're going to lose weight.

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>What did dexter. You know you're out of shape, you've

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 1>got a bit of visceral fat. Whatever. How did they

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>take it when you first put it to them? Is

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it a shock?

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 2>What the way I explained to them, you can say

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you get this visualization when someone says so. By the

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 2>way I explain, it's a whole holy stick, wheel, sleep, nutrition, hydration.

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 2>But everything comes together in a wheel. You take out

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 2>one of those pieces, the wheel starts to spin a

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 2>little worse. Take out two, three, the wheel falls apart,

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 2>spins like shit. So the way I explain it is,

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 2>don't chase perfection because you're not going to get perfection

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 2>out of all of those things. Just be good. That's it.

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Be good at every single one of those things and

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 2>just try and improve on them a little bit each week.

0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 2>And again. If you go backwards and fall off, it's fine.

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Just get back on the program and try and do

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the best you can. But that's going back a bit.

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:38.480
<v Speaker 2>As I said, try not to chase perfection because it's

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>not there. And if you try and chase perfection, it'll

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 2>do your head in and you'll just say fuck it.

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh you stop doing it, You say fuck it, I

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.560
<v Speaker 2>can't do it. It's too much for me, it's for

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 2>who the fuck could do this in a week?

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Totally.

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Just be good and that's the way to get it,

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and you'll progress. You'll get on that nice flow state

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 2>where you're slowly creeping up the hill. You don't want

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 2>to go up hill a million miles an hour and

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 2>fall off the hill. But with exercise nutrition, we're looking

0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 2>for longevity. And that's what I try and teach that sustainable, sustainable,

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent. If it's sustainable, you're doing really well.

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 2>It's not too much, it's not too little, you're not

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 2>getting bored, you're not falling off off the heel. That's

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 2>what we're looking for and that's the way I'll explain

0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 2>it to them.

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>So this brings you to the we challenge to something

0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you're just close to your heart. Yep, what's that about, mate?

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Mate? So going back to Dexascans, I get it. I

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 2>get So we call them chapters. There's a bit of

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 2>a g up, So we get chapters. We've got chapters

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in Rubra Lenox head Byron, chapters of people that come

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 2>together and train from all walks of life. Right, you can,

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 2>no matter where you've come from, you can come down

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:47.240
<v Speaker 2>and join these chapters and they're just groups of people

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and it forms a strong community. That's what set this up.

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't set them up. I set the

0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast one up and then I've jumped in on

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the other chapters. The Lenox chapter, they already they're already

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>going Mruber chapter. They've got ninety people. There's one in

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Newcastle now. But all these chapters come in and do

1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:07.120
<v Speaker 2>do my challenge.

1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So you set the challenger.

1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I set the challenge up. Yeah, I set it up.

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:13.720
<v Speaker 2>It's all online. So we got one starting on the

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 2>third of February next year, and that's the big one.

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:20.440
<v Speaker 2>It goes for eight weeks no alcohol and doing exactly

1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>what we've talked about today, the whole holistic side of health.

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Good not perfect, Yep, it's just good.

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Do do you talk to everybody online?

1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I try, and yeah, we've got we've got a WhatsApp,

1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:36.240
<v Speaker 2>good old WhatsApp good for training for training, So we

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:39.160
<v Speaker 2>get we get sort of the last one. We had

1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>two hundred people do it. So we've got chefs, other trainers,

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.320
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know everything. I've got a nutrition us

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.840
<v Speaker 2>on board because I just wanted to make the nutrition

1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:51.120
<v Speaker 2>side more professional. So I've got Kelly McDonald who does

1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:54.440
<v Speaker 2>She's on the same wavelength as nutrition as me, but

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:56.000
<v Speaker 2>she's really good at what she does.

1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:59.800
<v Speaker 1>And she said that, but when you say nutrition, Johnny

1:00:59.920 --> 1:01:02.840
<v Speaker 1>is amout. She sets up a program what she suggested does.

1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 2>She does food suggestions and then if you want to

1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:08.480
<v Speaker 2>go into more details, she will you can do a

1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:11.160
<v Speaker 2>private console. Obviously it costs more money. She will do

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:15.760
<v Speaker 2>a private console and set you up and again for sustainability.

1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:18.760
<v Speaker 2>It's not just because. A funny story about that is

1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:21.760
<v Speaker 2>the year a few years ago Pat Rafton won the challenge.

1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:24.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know him, but I know he's

1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a good mate, engineer.

1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Good good man. And he won the challenge. He smashed everyone.

1:01:28.800 --> 1:01:31.440
<v Speaker 2>He's still a competitive but he's big, strong like you

1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:35.160
<v Speaker 2>think you know Ossie legend, and he smashed everyone in

1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.720
<v Speaker 2>the challenge. He lost like four five percent potty fat,

1:01:39.040 --> 1:01:41.439
<v Speaker 2>put on about four point five percent lean muscle mass,

1:01:41.560 --> 1:01:44.280
<v Speaker 2>lost half his visceral fat. But he got to the

1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:45.960
<v Speaker 2>end of the challenge and I spoke to him and said,

1:01:45.960 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 2>how do you how you feeling? Pat? He goes, mate,

1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I was hungry the whole time. So he was hungry

1:01:52.240 --> 1:01:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and angry because he was pretty much not starving himself,

1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:57.600
<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't eating that many calories. Because he's such

1:01:57.640 --> 1:01:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a competitor. He wanted to win this thing, and he

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:03.040
<v Speaker 2>train till he was almost broken, Like he didn't do

1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:06.280
<v Speaker 2>my training program, he did his own, and he cooked

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:08.760
<v Speaker 2>himself like you were saying, he was absolutely cooked. And

1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:10.560
<v Speaker 2>he goes, I'm going to have a month off the

1:02:10.600 --> 1:02:12.520
<v Speaker 2>gym and I'm going to go and eat shit. And

1:02:12.600 --> 1:02:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, it's not really what the challenge

1:02:15.640 --> 1:02:18.120
<v Speaker 2>is all about. Like the challenge, I wanted to make

1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:21.240
<v Speaker 2>it so people can eat and live and train like

1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:24.280
<v Speaker 2>this for the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. So

1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:29.560
<v Speaker 2>we because that theme of the challenge was just deal

1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.560
<v Speaker 2>with it, So I do a different theme each challenge.

1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That that year was just deal with it, so no

1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:36.480
<v Speaker 2>matter what comes out, you just deal with it, get it,

1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:39.400
<v Speaker 2>get it done. And it was a bit everyone took

1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:42.200
<v Speaker 2>it literally and went overboard on the training and a

1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:46.000
<v Speaker 2>bit and didn't need enough. So that's when I thought,

1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll pull it back. And the next challenge I did

1:02:48.640 --> 1:02:51.880
<v Speaker 2>was sustainability, Like let's make this, like I just said,

1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:54.880
<v Speaker 2>five ten, fifteen, twenty years, we can we will quite

1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:58.000
<v Speaker 2>happily train like that, live the rest life, live this life.

1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:01.640
<v Speaker 2>And it was a way better challenge people. That's when

1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I started getting a lot of feedback about how how

1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:08.240
<v Speaker 2>good people felt, not just physically but mentally because they

1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:10.440
<v Speaker 2>had they knew they could live like that for the

1:03:10.800 --> 1:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>for a long period of time. So that's when I

1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:15.320
<v Speaker 2>was That's when I was thinking, all right, let's let's

1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:18.280
<v Speaker 2>cut out stress as well. Let's cut out the stress.

1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:20.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's when I proved through in the meditation side

1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:21.440
<v Speaker 2>of it as well.

1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:25.920
<v Speaker 1>So do do do do you sort of direct them

1:03:25.960 --> 1:03:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to to onund of the meditation apps and just say

1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.280
<v Speaker 1>pick one doesn't really matter, but do you have to

1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:34.480
<v Speaker 1>fill a format and sort of say okay they do?

1:03:34.480 --> 1:03:36.160
<v Speaker 1>You keep accountable accountable definitely.

1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So that's why we get the DEXA scan at the start, right,

1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:41.439
<v Speaker 2>so we get the dexas skiins. Everyone gets two hundred

1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:45.040
<v Speaker 2>scans coming at me. I'm like, oh god, how am

1:03:45.040 --> 1:03:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I going to calculate this? Then don't get another two

1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:49.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred Dexter scans at the end. At the end, but

1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:51.760
<v Speaker 2>now we've got a system on the on the website,

1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:54.320
<v Speaker 2>where people can upload their own data so they can

1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:56.320
<v Speaker 2>log in, they can log in, put their own dexter

1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:59.160
<v Speaker 2>scan results in and whatever the training can do. Their

1:03:59.280 --> 1:04:01.240
<v Speaker 2>training is all on the YEP. They can either train

1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:03.480
<v Speaker 2>do my training program or they can train with their

1:04:03.520 --> 1:04:05.640
<v Speaker 2>own trainer. So you put a program out to put

1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:07.240
<v Speaker 2>a program, it's all there is.

1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you put in your program every week or is

1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it one program?

1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:13.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a four week block, so you do one four

1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:15.240
<v Speaker 2>week you do trained, because I think it takes about

1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:17.960
<v Speaker 2>four weeks to learn the movements properly, even if you're

1:04:17.960 --> 1:04:20.520
<v Speaker 2>going back and doing a squat, like just learning how

1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to damn it. It's all on video. It's all everything's there.

1:04:26.360 --> 1:04:29.200
<v Speaker 2>And then after the four weeks we pretty much change

1:04:29.240 --> 1:04:32.000
<v Speaker 2>your program because then, like I said, you don't want

1:04:32.000 --> 1:04:34.840
<v Speaker 2>people to get bored. And some people after four weeks

1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:39.120
<v Speaker 2>like the FU all right, what's what's next? Four week block?

1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Two four week blocks for.

1:04:40.720 --> 1:04:44.520
<v Speaker 1>The and then people interacting with each other like can

1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you not compete? But can you sort of not Strava

1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:49.400
<v Speaker 1>but you.

1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, it's competitive because we do. Because we do.

1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I get each chapter to compete against each other. So

1:04:56.320 --> 1:04:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll take the So you say we've got ninety blocks

1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:02.760
<v Speaker 2>or seventy blocks from Ruber, fifty from Lenox, forty from Byron,

1:05:03.000 --> 1:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty or forty from where I'm from. We had South Australia,

1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:08.160
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand jump in and do it, and I'd really

1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:10.480
<v Speaker 2>like Rural Australia to start jumping on board as well.

1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:14.760
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a goal. But I take the top five

1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:18.120
<v Speaker 2>results from each chapter and we add them up. So

1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:22.240
<v Speaker 2>I think last year Lenox had one. In the year

1:05:22.240 --> 1:05:25.800
<v Speaker 2>before Byron one, So that's that just makes the chapters

1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:27.960
<v Speaker 2>a bit more competitive. And then when you've got blokes,

1:05:28.240 --> 1:05:30.320
<v Speaker 2>say traveling up to the Gold Coast from Sydney, they

1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:32.840
<v Speaker 2>can jump in and train with our chapter. Vice versa.

1:05:32.920 --> 1:05:35.880
<v Speaker 1>So do you train if you're in a Chapter's something

1:05:35.920 --> 1:05:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in the Ruba chapter, do I physically train with these

1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:43.920
<v Speaker 1>guys like you pick someone's garage or a gym or

1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:45.920
<v Speaker 1>something of that. That's it, okay, So you actually do.

1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Actually trained together. It creates a community. So you train together,

1:05:50.080 --> 1:05:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you go and jump in the ocean and all go

1:05:51.760 --> 1:05:55.120
<v Speaker 2>and have a coffee together, go about your dates. It's

1:05:55.240 --> 1:05:59.080
<v Speaker 2>a massive community. So we're trying to create a strong, healthy,

1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:02.440
<v Speaker 2>vibrant community. So these chapters, they all say if they

1:06:02.520 --> 1:06:05.240
<v Speaker 2>meet three times a week or twice a week, they

1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:07.720
<v Speaker 2>go and train together and then they can do their

1:06:07.760 --> 1:06:09.959
<v Speaker 2>own training, or they can put they can get small

1:06:10.040 --> 1:06:13.080
<v Speaker 2>groups and splinter off and do their weight training that

1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I set out. It just depends where they want to

1:06:15.560 --> 1:06:15.840
<v Speaker 2>go with it.

1:06:16.000 --> 1:06:17.560
<v Speaker 1>We know they joint used to have in Bondi and

1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:20.320
<v Speaker 1>North bond there were just train the garage.

1:06:20.800 --> 1:06:24.320
<v Speaker 2>The garage them. That's where it all started. Really, yeah,

1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that's where it all started with five guys. I used

1:06:26.360 --> 1:06:29.200
<v Speaker 2>to train a group of actually small garage, tiny little

1:06:29.200 --> 1:06:31.720
<v Speaker 2>single garage. That's where we trained for years. And I

1:06:31.840 --> 1:06:33.440
<v Speaker 2>used to train four guys in there, and I was

1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:36.240
<v Speaker 2>just looking for something to motivate them. I was like,

1:06:36.360 --> 1:06:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I was always interested in Dexa scans, and I was like,

1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:40.800
<v Speaker 2>all right, boys, let's go get a Dexas scan. Not

1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:43.240
<v Speaker 2>drink alcohol for eight weeks and then we'll get a

1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Dexas scan at the end and see who wins. Like,

1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:48.840
<v Speaker 2>see who can lose the most, lose the most body fat,

1:06:48.920 --> 1:06:51.120
<v Speaker 2>put on the most lean muscle mass, and lose the

1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:53.919
<v Speaker 2>most visceral fat, the important fat, that fat that sits

1:06:53.920 --> 1:06:57.240
<v Speaker 2>around your belly. So that all those three results we

1:06:57.320 --> 1:06:59.640
<v Speaker 2>look at and then we sort of did a calculation

1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:01.400
<v Speaker 2>at the end and see who wins.

1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Has it done anything for mental health?

1:07:04.480 --> 1:07:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Definitely. I didn't set out to do that, to be honest, like,

1:07:07.800 --> 1:07:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't set out for it to be a I've

1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:12.280
<v Speaker 2>set it out to be more of a physical challenge.

1:07:12.640 --> 1:07:14.480
<v Speaker 2>But the amount of people that bring me after it

1:07:14.520 --> 1:07:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and say, mate, my mental health, I didn't realize that

1:07:18.080 --> 1:07:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I was in a rut. They're not like obviously, they're

1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:27.360
<v Speaker 2>not like in a bad state of mental health. Yeah,

1:07:27.400 --> 1:07:30.920
<v Speaker 2>but they drink. They're just over drinking alcohol and using

1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that as a bit of a masking agent for their

1:07:33.240 --> 1:07:36.800
<v Speaker 2>whatever they're going through, stress at work, financial stress. And

1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:40.240
<v Speaker 2>then at the end they go, mate, might not only

1:07:40.320 --> 1:07:43.680
<v Speaker 2>feel physically better, but I feel mentally better. So that's

1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:46.200
<v Speaker 2>a big that was massive to hear that off a

1:07:46.320 --> 1:07:46.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of people.

1:07:47.040 --> 1:07:49.320
<v Speaker 1>How many how many people, let's say, so you do it,

1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:49.960
<v Speaker 1>how many times you?

1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I did it twice last year, but this one I

1:07:54.760 --> 1:07:57.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Last year at this at the same time

1:07:57.240 --> 1:07:58.800
<v Speaker 2>of a year, I got two hundred people doing it.

1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to get four or five hundred.

1:08:02.480 --> 1:08:04.600
<v Speaker 1>If someone's build a chapter set up a chapter, Set

1:08:04.680 --> 1:08:05.880
<v Speaker 1>up a chapter. How do they do it?

1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:08.320
<v Speaker 2>They just get a group of small group of people

1:08:08.360 --> 1:08:11.800
<v Speaker 2>from the local community, pick two mornings, just meet either

1:08:11.880 --> 1:08:13.640
<v Speaker 2>down the beach or at a local gym or at

1:08:13.680 --> 1:08:16.880
<v Speaker 2>someone's place, and you just people gravitate towards it. They

1:08:16.960 --> 1:08:20.120
<v Speaker 2>hear about it, start a thread. Like I said before,

1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the threads are the best thing for group training because

1:08:22.960 --> 1:08:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you can send out one quick message and everyone's on it.

1:08:25.680 --> 1:08:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Everyone supports each other. A bit of a note dickhead policy.

1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And how do they register? Though? With the APE, we

1:08:32.720 --> 1:08:34.439
<v Speaker 1>challenges like you have to go register yourself.

1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when that time comes around in February, you jump on.

1:08:39.160 --> 1:08:40.960
<v Speaker 2>It costs two hundred and fifty bucks to do the

1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:43.439
<v Speaker 2>challenge and then you pay for your own two dex

1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of scans. There are one hundred dollars each year. It

1:08:45.840 --> 1:08:47.600
<v Speaker 2>cost four hundred and fifty bucks all up to do

1:08:47.720 --> 1:08:51.360
<v Speaker 2>the challenge. But you like, if you're a drinker, you'll

1:08:51.400 --> 1:08:54.760
<v Speaker 2>save that money in two or three weeks a couple

1:08:54.800 --> 1:08:55.200
<v Speaker 2>of nights.

1:08:56.080 --> 1:08:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's how many have you been doing this?

1:08:58.760 --> 1:09:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean I remember you it's about six years

1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:05.280
<v Speaker 1>seven bond longer than that though, Yeah, that's.

1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:08.519
<v Speaker 2>I've been training in Bondi around those places for years.

1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:12.240
<v Speaker 2>But I think we're up to about challenge number seven

1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:12.960
<v Speaker 2>coming out.

1:09:12.880 --> 1:09:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Number seven And why do you do it? It's not

1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:18.840
<v Speaker 1>for money making, so why are you doing way John

1:09:18.880 --> 1:09:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Gannon doing it?

1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy just seeing people come together in a

1:09:23.920 --> 1:09:27.920
<v Speaker 2>community and go have each other's backs. Where like even

1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:30.240
<v Speaker 2>when the floods were on, like up in twenty two,

1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:33.280
<v Speaker 2>when the floods were on it is more and all

1:09:33.360 --> 1:09:36.639
<v Speaker 2>around the down towards Lenox and all around the back

1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:39.320
<v Speaker 2>of Lenox Head, New Brighton and all those places, it

1:09:39.439 --> 1:09:41.960
<v Speaker 2>was the local community that got up and saved people

1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:44.840
<v Speaker 2>and help people out. There was no one else for

1:09:44.960 --> 1:09:47.880
<v Speaker 2>four days. It was the boys on their jet skis

1:09:47.880 --> 1:09:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and in Tinney's the women were on the boat ramps.

1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Like local businesses were bringing down jerry cans full of fuel,

1:09:55.320 --> 1:09:58.599
<v Speaker 2>they're bringing down generators that everyone just come together as

1:09:58.600 --> 1:10:02.920
<v Speaker 2>a community and sorted it out. But there's like without that,

1:10:04.200 --> 1:10:06.040
<v Speaker 2>those people were in all sorts of trouble.

1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing a story that mid Fanning contract contacted

1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Musk and got the got the Starlight Starlink Starlink Starling

1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:21.639
<v Speaker 1>services and for people Lis.

1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:24.599
<v Speaker 2>More people and there's more and all around the back.

1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Of Woodell and all those Ye war that was really good.

1:10:27.920 --> 1:10:29.679
<v Speaker 2>That was bad mate. They were stuck. They were stuck

1:10:29.680 --> 1:10:32.200
<v Speaker 2>in their roof cavities for four days. Yeah, no phone,

1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:34.040
<v Speaker 2>no food, no water, no nothing, and.

1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Never is closed down because an internet needs cable and.

1:10:36.400 --> 1:10:38.360
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't get there. You could only get there by

1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:39.240
<v Speaker 2>boat or jet. Scared.

1:10:39.280 --> 1:10:40.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting off the back of that that

1:10:41.080 --> 1:10:45.680
<v Speaker 1>might join up there. And I thought, you know, I've

1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:50.280
<v Speaker 1>got I had, you know, some other internet service. I

1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:53.240
<v Speaker 1>won't see which one, And I thought, stuff that I'm

1:10:53.240 --> 1:10:56.080
<v Speaker 1>going to support starlink. So I got Starlink on the

1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:58.840
<v Speaker 1>two houses just just because of what McK fanning did.

1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought I would reward made any difference and stuff,

1:11:02.120 --> 1:11:03.720
<v Speaker 1>but I thought it would make it. I thought, no, no,

1:11:03.800 --> 1:11:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll make it. My decisions on going with that brand

1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:08.280
<v Speaker 1>was at the time it was a few years. It

1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:10.439
<v Speaker 1>was a bit more expensive because I had to buy

1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the kid much super now but great, by the way,

1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:18.840
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable service that stunting like. I never get downtime like

1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:22.080
<v Speaker 1>even when like last weekend it was like belting down,

1:11:22.479 --> 1:11:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it was still I still was still finding that my

1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.040
<v Speaker 1>dish is still finding the satellite. And it was and

1:11:26.120 --> 1:11:28.559
<v Speaker 1>it was perfect. I mean I had like a little blit,

1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but it was heavy duty weather. And that's off the

1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:33.560
<v Speaker 1>back of something to someone like Mick Fanning doing what

1:11:33.680 --> 1:11:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he did, and it was just me. It was a

1:11:35.040 --> 1:11:36.840
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of other blokes. There was a big gang

1:11:36.880 --> 1:11:40.280
<v Speaker 1>of them, and they're the sorts of people who were

1:11:40.320 --> 1:11:41.559
<v Speaker 1>doing this. We challenge.

1:11:41.720 --> 1:11:44.240
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's what I want to create, like strong communities.

1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:46.800
<v Speaker 2>But when the ship does hit the fan, like even

1:11:46.880 --> 1:11:48.920
<v Speaker 2>little things that happened that we don't even know about,

1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:52.360
<v Speaker 2>like someone's kid sick, that that group of people go

1:11:52.520 --> 1:11:56.120
<v Speaker 2>into a fundrate like anything like that, just to create

1:11:56.439 --> 1:11:59.799
<v Speaker 2>like because I think that's what we're lacking, like a strong, healthy,

1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:05.760
<v Speaker 2>vibrant communities. Especially after COVID we realized how social people

1:12:05.840 --> 1:12:09.120
<v Speaker 2>are as well. So now we've got our social life back.

1:12:09.760 --> 1:12:11.240
<v Speaker 2>We don't have to go to the pub and drink

1:12:11.280 --> 1:12:14.679
<v Speaker 2>ten schooners and write yourself off and just talk shit

1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and you don't even remember what your mate said to you.

1:12:16.280 --> 1:12:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, if you do, you just repeating shit you've been

1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:19.200
<v Speaker 1>other time.

1:12:19.280 --> 1:12:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's the same shit. So I'd rather see

1:12:22.760 --> 1:12:25.840
<v Speaker 2>people come down and train together, have a swim in

1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:28.519
<v Speaker 2>the ocean or in a cold plunge or whatever they've

1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:31.960
<v Speaker 2>got river, go and have a coffee, talk about whatever,

1:12:32.439 --> 1:12:34.760
<v Speaker 2>like the shit that comes out so funny, and you

1:12:34.840 --> 1:12:36.840
<v Speaker 2>remember what each other said, you made it, you made

1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a new mate, and you go about your day and

1:12:39.000 --> 1:12:40.120
<v Speaker 2>you feel better about yourself.

1:12:40.479 --> 1:12:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel better hearing you talk about it that

1:12:43.479 --> 1:12:46.200
<v Speaker 1>because you know it's funny. You know it's nearly full circle.

1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Because what you're telling me now, what you're trying to create,

1:12:51.960 --> 1:12:56.960
<v Speaker 1>letting others create, helping others create is sort of like

1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the original foundation premise of the Brah boys after each other,

1:13:02.560 --> 1:13:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but without all the other stuff that went with it.

1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:09.360
<v Speaker 1>There's just older blokes probably probably they're not twenty year olds,

1:13:09.360 --> 1:13:14.200
<v Speaker 1>probably blokes in thirty forties whatever, building a community themselves,

1:13:15.040 --> 1:13:18.040
<v Speaker 1>healthy community, looking after each other, looking out for each other,

1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and also enjoying each other's company, which is sort of

1:13:21.960 --> 1:13:25.439
<v Speaker 1>where you started when you're definitely but you've just taken

1:13:25.640 --> 1:13:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the best part of it and then put it into

1:13:28.439 --> 1:13:30.320
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing now. A bit of stuff and you

1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:31.240
<v Speaker 1>ever thought about.

1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:33.600
<v Speaker 2>That, yeah or not really? Nah, Now that you just

1:13:33.680 --> 1:13:34.519
<v Speaker 2>mentioned it, I am.

1:13:34.479 --> 1:13:37.200
<v Speaker 1>But because every human likes that, mate, we all want

1:13:37.200 --> 1:13:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to be part of something.

1:13:38.120 --> 1:13:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I love it. It's build so quick too. Like the

1:13:41.720 --> 1:13:44.559
<v Speaker 2>one in Newcastle started a year ago with like four

1:13:44.680 --> 1:13:46.960
<v Speaker 2>or five blokes, they've got fifty or sixty blokes turn

1:13:47.080 --> 1:13:51.960
<v Speaker 2>wow to each session surface a bit of everything, a

1:13:52.040 --> 1:13:58.400
<v Speaker 2>bit of everything for x footy players, surfers, mate ex crims, whatever,

1:13:58.760 --> 1:13:59.400
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter.

1:13:59.800 --> 1:14:00.679
<v Speaker 1>There's no judgments.

1:14:00.720 --> 1:14:03.479
<v Speaker 2>There's no judgments. Yeah, it's blokes that have come out

1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:07.320
<v Speaker 2>of a drug and rehab rehab that really come down

1:14:07.400 --> 1:14:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and love it because it gives them a bit of

1:14:08.880 --> 1:14:11.200
<v Speaker 2>a purpose. They've got something to get up for the

1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:14.639
<v Speaker 2>next day. It's whoever, whoever wants to come and join

1:14:14.720 --> 1:14:18.479
<v Speaker 2>in like it's and not like now the women are

1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:20.439
<v Speaker 2>starting to jump in. You've got a lot of women

1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:23.800
<v Speaker 2>jumping into it as well. Maruba have got ten or

1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:26.160
<v Speaker 2>so girls, young girls that come down and jump in

1:14:26.240 --> 1:14:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and smash the session with the boys. So now that's

1:14:29.240 --> 1:14:32.439
<v Speaker 2>the other thing to make it more women inclusive as well.

1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to get more women on the challenge because

1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:37.040
<v Speaker 2>then the other thing is when you've got mum and

1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:40.040
<v Speaker 2>dad doing the challenge, the healthy living and the healthy

1:14:40.080 --> 1:14:42.479
<v Speaker 2>lifestyle filters down to the rest of the family without

1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:44.320
<v Speaker 2>even saying anything. We get a bit of feedback.

1:14:44.439 --> 1:14:47.000
<v Speaker 1>May we do what we see? Yep, we do, don't

1:14:47.040 --> 1:14:47.719
<v Speaker 1>do what we're told?

1:14:48.479 --> 1:14:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the kidkeys, I tell you kids to eat that,

1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:53.519
<v Speaker 2>eat that. But if they see Mum and dad cooking

1:14:53.600 --> 1:14:56.599
<v Speaker 2>healthy and then we get a few few people coming

1:14:56.640 --> 1:14:59.240
<v Speaker 2>back with a bit of feedback saying, the kids want

1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:01.800
<v Speaker 2>to prepare the with me, the kids want to come up, jump,

1:15:01.920 --> 1:15:03.320
<v Speaker 2>jump up in the morning and come for a run

1:15:03.400 --> 1:15:05.880
<v Speaker 2>with me. So that there's that element of it as

1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:08.120
<v Speaker 2>well that we get a bit of feedback about.

1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:10.320
<v Speaker 1>As well, especially if you start introducing your kids to

1:15:10.439 --> 1:15:14.400
<v Speaker 1>things like breath work, these unusual things. Breath work. Maybe

1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:16.400
<v Speaker 1>not a it doesn't have to be a cold plunch

1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it could you just.

1:15:17.040 --> 1:15:19.959
<v Speaker 2>Jump in the ocean, jump in the ocean, jumping.

1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:24.800
<v Speaker 1>And walking around the grass like I remember when I

1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:27.080
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, I had a pair of thongs.

1:15:27.080 --> 1:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>So that was it.

1:15:27.600 --> 1:15:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Summer come so schools at school, so the only I

1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:32.560
<v Speaker 1>had two bit shoes, a pair of sanches and a

1:15:32.600 --> 1:15:35.000
<v Speaker 1>pair of school shoes and a pair of thongs. In

1:15:35.040 --> 1:15:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the summer it was thongs or barefoot everywhere. You know

1:15:39.520 --> 1:15:43.040
<v Speaker 1>in those days, you know you're stepping on Bindi's those

1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:48.160
<v Speaker 1>bindie things just getting cats, I said, and the plucking

1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:51.200
<v Speaker 1>about it like if a kid they stood and they

1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:51.880
<v Speaker 1>freak out.

1:15:52.320 --> 1:15:55.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, you just step on, step on, a up,

1:15:55.840 --> 1:15:58.320
<v Speaker 2>a bit of resilience, a step.

1:15:58.120 --> 1:15:59.519
<v Speaker 1>On a nail, and then you be down the door

1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to getting a and a shot. I mean a number

1:16:01.120 --> 1:16:03.639
<v Speaker 1>of times I've got on those things and I reckon.

1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound like some old dude, but

1:16:05.960 --> 1:16:08.519
<v Speaker 1>I just think that, and I think my Grandson's what

1:16:08.560 --> 1:16:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about is I've got three grandsons. I think

1:16:10.520 --> 1:16:13.040
<v Speaker 1>about they ever going to experience that sort of stuff

1:16:13.120 --> 1:16:14.640
<v Speaker 1>or is it going to be their life is going

1:16:14.720 --> 1:16:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to be about like protecting and make sure that don't

1:16:16.920 --> 1:16:20.640
<v Speaker 1>put your shoes on there's bees around here, or put

1:16:20.680 --> 1:16:22.320
<v Speaker 1>your shoes on you might step on a rusty ale.

1:16:22.760 --> 1:16:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to get the rusty air and

1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:25.880
<v Speaker 1>in their foot, But at the same time, it's a

1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:28.240
<v Speaker 1>fine line. I do want them to experience some life

1:16:28.600 --> 1:16:33.320
<v Speaker 1>like it's funny, you know, my you know when my grandson,

1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:37.320
<v Speaker 1>one of my second eldest grandson, my son said me

1:16:37.320 --> 1:16:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a photograph of him on the weekend. And this is

1:16:39.960 --> 1:16:43.720
<v Speaker 1>like eleven o'clock at night, Saturday night. And when you

1:16:43.760 --> 1:16:44.880
<v Speaker 1>get a message from your son.

1:16:44.800 --> 1:16:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Eleventh's what's happening. So he's.

1:16:49.880 --> 1:16:54.760
<v Speaker 1>He's at the hospital and in Sydney, my grandson who's

1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:59.880
<v Speaker 1>won one one year and it's three weeks old. Why

1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:04.840
<v Speaker 1>old as they come? And he climbed up on top

1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of a bean bag and fell off onto a concrete floor.

1:17:08.160 --> 1:17:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So he opened his head up. He's got the biggest

1:17:10.240 --> 1:17:12.200
<v Speaker 1>gash on his head, like big gash on his head.

1:17:12.920 --> 1:17:16.040
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and the worst part about is, you know

1:17:16.160 --> 1:17:18.200
<v Speaker 1>he got there at nine o'clock, at nine o'clock at night.

1:17:18.400 --> 1:17:20.240
<v Speaker 1>The worst part I was still at eleven waiting for

1:17:20.280 --> 1:17:22.479
<v Speaker 1>someone to come to stitch them up. That's the hospital system,

1:17:22.800 --> 1:17:27.200
<v Speaker 1>because as that the Prince wils but and.

1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was.

1:17:27.880 --> 1:17:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And he stitched up now and he got three stitches,

1:17:31.120 --> 1:17:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and he said he's got a bend. And I thought himself, yeah,

1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's sort of I don't know, it's

1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:38.479
<v Speaker 1>sort of okay too.

1:17:38.920 --> 1:17:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, it's another wrong.

1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:44.720
<v Speaker 1>And his older brother was crying and I said, and

1:17:44.800 --> 1:17:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought, well that's okay too. You see your little

1:17:47.120 --> 1:17:50.400
<v Speaker 1>brother get injured, you feel something, and that's something you

1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:52.760
<v Speaker 1>never forget when you're when you're six or seven and

1:17:52.840 --> 1:17:55.519
<v Speaker 1>your little brother's one, you will never forget that incident

1:17:56.360 --> 1:18:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and those little sort of natural humor and things that

1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:04.800
<v Speaker 1>happened to us, Like that was the same before running

1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:07.839
<v Speaker 1>around with your bare feet on the grass and standing

1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:09.960
<v Speaker 1>on a little flower that might have been gett a

1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:14.800
<v Speaker 1>beasting mate. They're all they're all nature's warnings.

1:18:14.600 --> 1:18:17.599
<v Speaker 2>And builds up a bit of resilience, up, a bit

1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:18.040
<v Speaker 2>of grit.

1:18:18.439 --> 1:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Totally, yeah, we need it. I think we need it.

1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:24.400
<v Speaker 1>And then also your eight week challenge, it's sort of

1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:27.560
<v Speaker 1>an older person's version of what I just said, Like

1:18:27.840 --> 1:18:31.160
<v Speaker 1>it's about being natural. Stop drinking. What would you eat,

1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:35.920
<v Speaker 1>eat well, sleep well, train your ass off, have a goal.

1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Talk to your mates about it, because train your ass

1:18:38.600 --> 1:18:40.320
<v Speaker 1>off on your own is really hard. Talk to your

1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:43.519
<v Speaker 1>mates about it. Watch the day there down because you'd

1:18:43.560 --> 1:18:45.280
<v Speaker 1>be rest sure you're gonna have a ship day. Pick

1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:47.439
<v Speaker 1>each other up, Say come on, mate, let's get into it.

1:18:48.520 --> 1:18:50.400
<v Speaker 1>If I turn up, I altern it because I know

1:18:50.479 --> 1:18:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you're turning up because.

1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand.

1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to let you down. Totally, really like

1:18:57.280 --> 1:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>this morning, I didn't train because I've got a bit

1:19:00.120 --> 1:19:03.640
<v Speaker 1>later and a bit late. And but if I was

1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:05.560
<v Speaker 1>meeting someone, there's no way in the world if I

1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:06.880
<v Speaker 1>went to bed at two in the morning, I was

1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:08.720
<v Speaker 1>still turned up at six because I don't want to

1:19:08.760 --> 1:19:12.599
<v Speaker 1>let someone down. Not myself, but I'll let myself down

1:19:12.640 --> 1:19:14.920
<v Speaker 1>every time. But if I got someone else, I don't

1:19:14.920 --> 1:19:16.839
<v Speaker 1>want to let him down. So I think that community

1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:20.120
<v Speaker 1>thing is really important. Change. He's a ripper, I got.

1:19:20.479 --> 1:19:23.479
<v Speaker 1>It's funny talking about a blake who we know needs

1:19:23.520 --> 1:19:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to do something about his training regime. And again said him,

1:19:27.080 --> 1:19:31.800
<v Speaker 1>beget him on the out we challenge. Yeah, maybe we

1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:33.439
<v Speaker 1>should build a little group and him and a.

1:19:33.439 --> 1:19:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Few others get up on die chapter go.

1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he's a Rooster's guy, so we could do

1:19:38.520 --> 1:19:41.760
<v Speaker 1>another another rounded either everywhere. You're not going to tell

1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>me that bunny support support, Oh my god. And so

1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:48.240
<v Speaker 1>it was ours pumping what's wrong?

1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:51.679
<v Speaker 2>All of my best mates Fish from Rubra, Mark Fisher

1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:53.519
<v Speaker 2>who's good mates with Ginge and Ginge two of my

1:19:53.600 --> 1:19:57.760
<v Speaker 2>best mates Risters two of my best closest friends. So

1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm used to it mate, And then I know of

1:20:00.160 --> 1:20:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Trent Robot well another obviously the coach.

1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, surround advice everywhere. So I want to wish the

1:20:11.520 --> 1:20:15.960
<v Speaker 1>best for the date in February, third February. I want

1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:17.439
<v Speaker 1>to wish the best for the third. I want to

1:20:17.479 --> 1:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>be more. You don't need. I want to wish all

1:20:20.080 --> 1:20:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the people join up the best outcome. That's great. It's

1:20:23.400 --> 1:20:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a great, great initiative and like, if you're listening and

1:20:27.200 --> 1:20:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to get motivated, it's called the eight week Challenge.

1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Is Big Challenge, Gate Challenge.

1:20:34.040 --> 1:20:35.360
<v Speaker 1>So is there a website.

1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Website, Yeah, we'll put them on the link below.

1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, go there, get a gang together. Register whenever the

1:20:43.960 --> 1:20:45.960
<v Speaker 1>time comes to registration and all brack.

1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, thanks, thanks mark mate, thank you