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Speaker 1: Hi, my boris, and this is straight talk.

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Speaker 2: We did stupid shit together, you know, it was riot stabbings.

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Speaker 2: It was rough at one stage, but we'ld congregate down

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Speaker 2: the beach together, surf together, train together. There was that

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Speaker 2: brotherhood and yeah, just have each other's backs.

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Speaker 1: John Agaan World straight talk mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me Mark Taj Borrow, who you trained

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Speaker 2: as age. Yeah, we traveled around the world for seven years.

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Speaker 2: I was his full time trainer.

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Speaker 1: We've touched on birth work, meditation, types of exercise, sleep, nutrition,

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Speaker 1: and hydration. That all gets put together. That's quite a

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Speaker 1: big package for people to digest, especially they're new to this.

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Speaker 2: Don't chase perfection because you're not going to get perfection

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Speaker 2: out of all those things. Just be good, that's it.

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Speaker 2: With exercise nutrition, we're looking for longevity. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 2: what I try and teach.

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Speaker 1: John again, World straight talk mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Mark a long way out of town like you normally

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Speaker 1: Northern rivers dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mate, I now reside up at Tweetheads, just on

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Speaker 2: the Tweed River there, so it's beautiful, good place to

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Speaker 2: bring the kids up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Really happy missus yep, so happily married.

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Speaker 2: Not married, but We've got three yeah, yeah, three healthy,

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Speaker 2: happy kids.

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Speaker 1: How old are kids?

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Speaker 2: I got a four year old daughter Buffy, seven year

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Speaker 2: old daughter Joey, and a nine year old son named Grayson.

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Speaker 1: You name your daughter after Robbos, missus.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely not. No, there's not too many Buffies around before. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's Robbos Williams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So why move up to the Northern Rivers? Like,

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Speaker 1: what was and when did that happen?

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Speaker 2: I was five years ago. I was living in Ruba

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Speaker 2: in a two bedroom units south of Maruba, and I

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Speaker 2: loved it and we just were seen and how are

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Speaker 2: we going to afford a house because we've got another

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Speaker 2: baby coming, and just looked at the Northern Rivers. Actually

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Speaker 2: we're thinking about Byron around that area, and we just

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Speaker 2: rented a joint up around Northern Rivers and saw a

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Speaker 2: all worked out really well for some reason. It all

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Speaker 1: So we might just give some context of that because

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Speaker 1: you're living in the Northern Rivers, but you're a Ruber

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Speaker 1: boy Yep, more than a Ruber boy.

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Speaker 2: You are Marubra.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one of the original boys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up, grew up in Ruba and when

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Speaker 2: the boys sort of first sort of the Bra Boys

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Speaker 2: but they as we sort of our generation went through

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't a beach web before it was.

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Speaker 2: Yep, definitely who was all surfers and everything, but they

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Speaker 2: weren't as tight. They were as tight as we were.

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Speaker 2: Was organized or was organized? Yeah, probably not as organized.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, as we grow up, it sort of

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Speaker 1: But what was the saying was my brother's keeper or

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Speaker 1: something like that? As I recall, I mean, there's been

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Speaker 2: It was a bit of everything. It was a gang

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Speaker 2: Then there was that brotherhood where we where we looked

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Speaker 2: that come from broken families. I didn't had a pretty

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so we just would congregate down the beach together,

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Speaker 1: What period are we talking about now, which will be.

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Speaker 1: Because I had a lot of people these sort of

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Speaker 1: But you guys, I see stories about some of the

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Speaker 1: Did you see much of that stuff? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I saw it all. So some funny only enough. Two

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Speaker 2: they were both jiu jitsu. One was a ju black belt,

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Speaker 2: they bought jiu jitsu to Rubra twenty five years ago

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Speaker 1: It was always going to happen. There was always going

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Speaker 2: It's always going to happen. It was just a bit

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Speaker 1: Why did you? Why do I mean you didn't come

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Speaker 2: It was just because I surf there and was a

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Speaker 2: every sisters. And there was everything that was rapes, there

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Speaker 2: It turned into more of a gang. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: From and what killed it off sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Mate. The main thing was prescription drugs, I would say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and today, do you still have a new contact

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I'm going to go down the Bay Pub

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Speaker 2: That scene's finished. Yeah, Like it's so good to see,

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Speaker 2: Everyone learned their lesson and yeah, the dad's or you know,

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Speaker 1: You don't need that, and the ship off your liver,

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Speaker 1: Like it's the world's not to blame. Yeah, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like no one put those pills down anyone's throat

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Speaker 2: but the boys yourselves. So you can't make excuses, but

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Speaker 2: it was a life lesson and just let that know

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Speaker 2: for the younger generations that those drugs aren't safe.

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Speaker 1: As long as I've ever known you, and I met

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Speaker 1: much water. And I thought of himself, what happens in

433
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: that situation, especial if you get hit on the chin,

434
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: like what happens that situation? You start to lose clarity

435
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: and you can't respond to what's in front of you,

436
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: so you can't make good decisions. So if I just

437
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: take that, extrapolate that out into someone who's just a

438
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: normal person out there who doesn't get up in the morning,

439
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: drink a looter of water as soon as you get up.

440
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: You know, I don't mean immediately, but like I start

441
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: drinking the water instead, they get up to drink cofee.

442
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: Do I drink yourself anymore? So drink some water before

443
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: you drink coffee. But that person, if they don't, This

444
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: happens a lot of times, as you know, a lot

445
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: of people don't drink and water. Then they go to work,

446
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: they're trying to make decisions, they've had three coffees. They

447
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: wonder why they make mistakes. And that's without any training.

448
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: That's ad a bit of exercise in there. They really dehydrate.

449
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: So how do you get into your client's head, the

450
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: ones you train, the ones you look after, how do

451
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: you get into their head?

452
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: Like?

453
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: Can you change this? Because there's a lifestyle change all

454
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: these people I mean like drink water. Do you put

455
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 1: them on a program?

456
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't. What I do is just so you constantly

457
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: have a bottle of water with you, going by a

458
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: good quality water bottle, good stainless steel one carried around

459
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 2: with no place. No plastic.

460
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, no plastic.

461
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: Plastic. Even with the BP A free plastic, I forget.

462
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't trust it, especially if it's in the sun

463
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: and all that. By a good stainless steel water bottle,

464
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: you can have it for until you lose it. I've

465
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: lost a million of them.

466
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: I've got as because I've got so many bottles, and

467
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: everyone leaves them at the gym.

468
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: I've got a collection of them because everyone runs out

469
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: on a bit of a high out of the gym,

470
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: they leave their water bottle. Thatt. But yeah, carry a

471
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: water with it well at all times. And I find

472
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: a good quality electrolyte that you like that's got the magnesium,

473
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: the potassium, and the salt in it. Because you see

474
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 2: people say at the end of a marathon when they

475
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: when they when they lose their coordination and they hit

476
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: the wall, it's called that all that is is lack

477
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: of minerals in the body.

478
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: So you sweated it out.

479
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: You've sweated all the minerals out of your body. So

480
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: the potassium, magnesium, and salt, if they had that, the

481
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: electrical currents that go through your body. It connects your brains.

482
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: The little signals that run through through your nervous system.

483
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: They don't fire because they need they need those minerals

484
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: as a current to fire, to conduct, to conduct, and

485
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: they they've gone. It's depleted. So that's why they just

486
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: turned into jellyfish. They can't stand up. That's exactly why

487
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: we need to stay hydrated. And that's an extreme.

488
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: There's extreme version, but it doesn't matter. It does affect people.

489
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: I mean old school guys like I can remember Isaid

490
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: trainers guy Gary Stemware stumbles and we would go out

491
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: on Friday. This is what we do Friday. We get

492
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: on the Friday. We're going to train, train to ass

493
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: off after work really hard, no no, no hydration, straight

494
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: to the park, drink ten beers.

495
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 2: That's old school.

496
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: And then Saturday morning, Sat Day, lunchtime around eleven o'clock,

497
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: find the hottest part of the day. Anyway, backpack fill

498
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: full of sand and we used to go for a run.

499
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: And you wonder why you get fucking injuries like bad news,

500
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: bad whatever you get, you get, you wonder why, But

501
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: that was what we used to do, like back in

502
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: those days, you get we were young, so you sort

503
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: of get away with it, but still that old school system.

504
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: So you know, I think what people like you were

505
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: trying to do is you're trying to bring back some intelligence,

506
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: some thought process based on science. You're not just making

507
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: shit up. It's based on science.

508
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: I follow, you know, I've got my people.

509
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: I follow one ye who gives it gives an example, follow.

510
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: Doctor Ronda Patrick. She's she's an American woman and she's

511
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: clued up on she she breaks she breaks down all

512
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: the science of all the later.

513
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: Studies about exercise.

514
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: About nutrition, exercise, movement, hydra like sleep, hydration.

515
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: She's really good, doctor Ronda Patrick Patrick.

516
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: Yep, she's she's cool. I just like the way she

517
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: explains things like I couldn't read a scientific paper to

518
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: save myself, but she breaks it down really well. Yeah. Her.

519
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: And then as there's a few others I follow that

520
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: I posted here up a bit. There's a few other

521
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: few others I follow, but it's pretty interesting. It just

522
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: interests me that side of it, and I think it's

523
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: a way forward because again it comes down to recovery.

524
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: The better you recover, the better you train. So that's

525
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: that's the way I look at it as well. Because

526
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: if you're recovering through hydro hydration through hot cold immersions,

527
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: the better your next performance is when you train. The

528
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: more like you're saying, cognitive connection you've got with your

529
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: body when you train, Because when I'm training someone, I'm

530
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: not too worried about reps and sets. I'm more thinking

531
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: about how can I get this person to move better

532
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: through cognitive sort of movement with intent. So I'm saying,

533
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: slow down, move with intent, move like think about what

534
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 2: you're going to do, like purposeful movement like it's all

535
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: and it works so much better than just you know,

536
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: when you see people at the gym and they're just

537
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: just getting through the reps and sets for the sake

538
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: of it, there's no thought in what they're doing at all.

539
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, we're just saying, if you're

540
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: going to exercise, have a strategy.

541
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: Have strategy, and move move with purpose like you just said,

542
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: and intent, and it's more cognitive. You just connect with

543
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: a movement way better slow it down and then work

544
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: on speeding it up.

545
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: So when you because obviously about this the other day,

546
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I thought, because you know this project, I'm trying to

547
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: work out how to optimize myself to get one hundre

548
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: years of age. And I thought of himself, well, I really, Mark,

549
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: what are you training for? What do you want to

550
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: achieve with your training? Therefore that should inform you us

551
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: what type of training I should do. And then I

552
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: thought of himself, well, you know, when i'm let's say

553
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: when i'm ninety, if I get there, but if i'm

554
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: ninety'd be great. If i'm I've either got great grandsons

555
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: or grandson daughters, whatever. And let's say they're two, and

556
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: let's say they're weigh twelve kilos. Can I bend down

557
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: and pick that kid up functionally? So I think to myself, Okay,

558
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: well Mark, maybe now at my age, now you've got

559
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: to start training for that day with movement and to

560
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: exercise that sort of mimics that process because you don't

561
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: want to be at ninety. Either you can't do it

562
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: and you're frail, or.

563
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: The parents don't trust you're picking up the baby because.

564
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: So Dad don't do it. Alternately, I do it. I

565
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: injure myself. And then because once you injure yourself with

566
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: that age, you're in trouble for a long time, a

567
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: long time. That's that's hips backs you do a knee

568
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: and you don't as we're going to hit a back

569
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: operation or hip operation that in those periods. So you've

570
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: got to have enough flex and muscle and strength and

571
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: whatever and body muscle memory, et cetera to be able

572
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: to do these things. So how important is it for

573
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: people when you say purpose? Well, how important is for

574
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: people to sort of actually say, Okay, that's the function

575
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: I want to be able to do. So I don't

576
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: really need to go and do girls, I'm not going

577
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: to be curling the kid. I'm going to be using

578
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: my Yeah.

579
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: You're going to hinge and you're going to use a

580
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: nice smooth hippi.

581
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: And what's the right technique? That's it a technique body technique.

582
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: You can get down into a nice deep squat pattern

583
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: or a nice deep hip hinge. Do you do that? Yeah,

584
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: you look definitely. And you know what, that is a

585
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: great motivator what you just mentioned. They've been able to

586
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: keep up with your future grand your kids, grand kids.

587
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: That's such a good motivator. Or it is for me,

588
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: but it is it should be for a everyone.

589
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know, But do you find that John,

590
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: that like when you get to you need is it

591
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: just a function of say, someone gets to my age,

592
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: and that's only when we start thinking about it. Because

593
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: and even you now you know in your fifties, when

594
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: you were thirty, mate, yeah, a lot of stuff you

595
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: would have thought about you just I mean when I

596
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: was with I was just rippetage whatever, and I didn't

597
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: and I applied that sort of attitude everything I did, work, sport, everything.

598
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 1: Now I'm older, do you feel as though we need

599
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: to start to educate people, at least in our country,

600
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: educate younger people. And I don't want to be a

601
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,239
Speaker 1: lecture in anyone, but educate them about the benefits are

602
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: starting early the thinking process.

603
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: That's a hard person Like you're saying, it's a pretty

604
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: hard cell to get people in their thirties start thinking

605
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: about movement when they're sixty.

606
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: You seeing any of this?

607
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: Not really, No, I see it more now with our age, Yeah, definitely,

608
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: But when you're that age, like you're saying, it's working

609
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: play hard, bulletproof, which is understandable. Yeah, your bulletproof. You

610
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: couldn't care what's going to happen to your body in

611
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: five weeks time. You just want to look good. And

612
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: saying that vanity is a great motivator as well.

613
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: Totally like, because you're leaner than it used to be. Yeah,

614
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: if I go back to eight twenty years, I reckon

615
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: you would have been I don't know, maybe just ten years,

616
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: ten killers.

617
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably five.

618
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: You're much Yeah to put on used to put on muscle,

619
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: pretty but now you're more lean.

620
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty lean.

621
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

622
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I try and stay around ninety two. That's like

623
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: a pretty happy medium for me. But I have to

624
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: eat to stay at ninety two.

625
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: Could we talk about that then? Eating it's like take

626
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: my my age example, the amount of food like briefas

627
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: and gins as you know. And by the way, he

628
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: gave me enough information to stitch you up.

629
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: He loves it. But I'm not going to do it.

630
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: Okay, but because because Ainy is I'm not doing because

631
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to make him think how good? How

632
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: good is this? Johnny gets stitched up? So there are

633
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: some stories I know I'm going to tell you. But anyway,

634
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: thanks Mane. But Ginjo said to me on SAT. Day,

635
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: he said, mate, you just got to eat less, And

636
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, but it's relative to the amount of

637
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: exercise I'm and I don't want to eat less. And

638
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: get too skinny. Yeah, I don't mean skinny in a

639
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: bad way. I don't want to be like I'm about

640
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: eighty five. I want to stay thirty five.

641
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: I can.

642
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: How the fuck can I do it? Though? I mean

643
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: like it should be taken bro about its like I

644
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: just don't feel that hungry anymore.

645
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a tricky one because I agree

646
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like losing going under ninety kilos.

647
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: I look frail and I look. My people go, you

648
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: lost weight, You look, you don't look that well. It

649
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: just doesn't suit me. And I like just holding that weight.

650
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: So what do you do?

651
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: Like to keep it?

652
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: Definitely do some strength training. Strength I purchase you work

653
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: to put on lean muscle masks and so that that's

654
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: resistance training. Resistance training, But what does that mean though?

655
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Does that mean like trying to bench your best bench?

656
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: Are you doing three of everything or five? What are

657
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: you doing? I do?

658
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: If I'm trying to put on lean muscle mass in

659
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: these challenges I run, I do sort of anywhere from

660
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: eight to twelve reps four sets and old school basic.

661
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: You probably can't do more than ten reps.

662
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Ten to twelve reps ten to twelve reps max, and

663
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: then I always try and pick away. It's pretty simple

664
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: where the last three reps are getting really tough, right, Okay,

665
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: those last three reps you're going and you're getting a

666
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: nice you feel like you're geting the old school pump,

667
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: the old school burn. That's when I feel like I'm

668
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: putting on lean muscle.

669
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Is the reason you want to do eight to ten

670
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: reps is because that's tearing enough muscle, but without actually

671
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: tearing too much muscle, but tearing enough so that when

672
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: you recover, when you muscle recovers, it rebuilds.

673
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: So that REP range is it's a bit up in

674
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: the air with reps and sets and how many, but

675
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: I find that REP range is pretty easy to teach.

676
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: It keeps people sort of accountable, like you get to

677
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: and you can compare it to your next workout. Even

678
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: if you go up to sixteen to twenty reps and

679
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: still get that pump. At the end of sixteen or

680
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: twenty reps, it's still you're still going to put on

681
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: lean muscle. So it just depends you can mix up

682
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: you have to do. I do three to four sets,

683
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: but sometimes if I don't have much time I love

684
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: this whole concept of if you haven't got much time

685
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: still going workout, because you can still go and and

686
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: do one set and just absolutely blast yourself. Say you

687
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: do four exercises, one set, go heavier, do twelve reps,

688
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: but have a good warm up so you don't injure yourself. Obviously,

689
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 2: you can go in there and do four exercises twelve reps,

690
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: but push them to the limit. Like the last two

691
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: reps you are absolutely struggling. It's still you're still going

692
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: to put on your body has to adapt to that

693
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: stimulus and you're going to put on muscle. I guarantee it.

694
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: So when you run, your group's at leak how is it?

695
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I find it can be a bit overwhelming because yeah, okay,

696
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: you're going to do some rabic work. You're got to

697
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: get it on a bike, run a machine or roll

698
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: or something. You know, And some people recommend you've got

699
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: to do one hundred and fifty minutes a week going

700
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: to like, you know, that's the lake. In my case,

701
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen beats a minute. You could have,

702
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, forty minutes, and you've got to do that

703
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: three four times a week. Then you've got to do

704
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: some resistance work minimum two times a week. There's five days,

705
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: and then I like to wrestle. If you're doing that

706
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: three nights a week, all of a sudden, there's no

707
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: more days. I'm over a day and I'm bugging too.

708
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm stuffed. So is it best to sort of say, Okay,

709
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: for this month, I'm going to do I'm just going

710
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: to wrestle. Next month, I'm going to do resistance of

711
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: a month after going do Arabic. I mean, how do

712
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: you do this stuff? Nah?

713
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Like, I know exactly what you're talking about because I'm

714
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: on the pretty much the same program. Whereas I think

715
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 2: instead of doing so much cardio, I think pulling your

716
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: reps and sets, making short of rest periods so you're

717
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: still keeping your heart when you're doing your strength work,

718
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: you're still keeping your heart rate at about one fifteen,

719
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: which you just said that's your cardio zone, your own

720
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: two cardio. So if you can wear a heart rate monitor,

721
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: do your strength work and go around the gym, it's

722
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 2: just a bit more of a circuit. So you're still

723
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: getting your cardio and you're still putting on lean muscle mass.

724
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: That's the way i'd treat that because then you don't

725
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: have to do those extra cardio sessions and you can

726
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: still wrestle and you're still keeping lean muscle mass on.

727
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: So that's the way I'd try and cover that, because

728
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: I know, doing those cardio sets and doing those two

729
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: weight sessions a week and wrestling you're going to be

730
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: pretty run down court at our age.

731
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: Well, as I get old, I find it harder to

732
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: do eat enough, I find it harder to train enough.

733
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Like what I think what I used to do, no drama,

734
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: sleeping enough because I'm exhausted. But like then, but then

735
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: you've got to work in the middle of all that too.

736
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: Then you've got to fit working family, and then you've

737
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: got all your other extended stuff that you've got to do.

738
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: And what I was just talking to you about then is,

739
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: like I guess, is tailor making an excise program for

740
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: someone like you know, getting older? Let me just dial

741
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: it back. How do you tailor make an exercise training

742
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: program for, say, someone like Taj Borrow who you trained sports?

743
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Was it sports specific training?

744
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: Definitely on the great surface, one of the great surfaces,

745
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: who never who never won anything, who never won. Yeah,

746
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: so I worked for for seven years on the we

747
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: traveled around the world for seven years. Was his full

748
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: time trainer.

749
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: So had that become about through.

750
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: A mate of ours Sammy McIntosh been on the podcast.

751
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Sam was really good mates with Taj and he knew

752
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: I was training all the Ruba boys and he just

753
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: liked the style that I was training with because he

754
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: thought Taj needed a bit of a rocket up he's

755
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: ass to try and win a world title, just a

756
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: bit of a bit more motivation, a bit more grit.

757
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: Did he have too much talent?

758
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: I would say that you see that a lot in

759
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: all sports. You know, the most talented kids are the

760
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: ones that don't want to do the work. So my

761
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: job was to come in and obviously train a bit

762
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: of grit into him, like get him hungry, like want

763
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: to win. He wanted to win. He's a competitive little bugger,

764
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: but he just just more grit more like, you know,

765
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: instead of getting to the end of the comp and going, oh, yeah,

766
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: I probably could have done better, but and saying, nah,

767
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: fuck this, I'm going to win this thing. Let's go.

768
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: So that was sort of my role.

769
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: But but how did how did you tailor make something

770
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: for him? So because I've had some you know some

771
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: people someone gain you organized, someone hied my pool and

772
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: they did look at a twenty five med pill up

773
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: at the front and you know what film walking underwater

774
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: rights and which is cool. I was I didn't care,

775
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: But do you do did you do that sort of stuff?

776
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Because he's not going to so big I mean, he's

777
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: going to he's not going to serve dangerous surf. He's

778
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: probably going to compete at bells or something that they do.

779
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: Go to a couple of dangerous waves like obviously Pipeline

780
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: and chop they were both really very dangerous every dangerous waves,

781
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 2: which which he sort of he ended up doing really

782
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: well out at the end of his career out of

783
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: Chopo and we won a Pipemaster, so he won a

784
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: pipeline when I was training him. So they were two

785
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: massive achievements.

786
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: Did you get into your water doing that sort of stuff?

787
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: We did a bit of breath work, but not the

788
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: rock carrying and all that stuff. We do sort of

789
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: negative empty lung breath holds. We're getting to exil at

790
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: the top, so he'd sink to the bottom and just

791
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: in the water in the wa because it's been in

792
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: the water is so much different to doing breath work

793
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: on land. Yeah, because you obviously you think, fuck if

794
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I've got to get to the top here, where on

795
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: land you can go, I'll take a breath here. Yeah,

796
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: so that's that different sort of stimulus.

797
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, but is that control just on that? Is

798
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: that because you've got me curious now, is that you're

799
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: talking about sort of being able to control your thoughts?

800
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: Yep?

801
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: When you've got no breath left.

802
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: You go down on exactly it. You go down on

803
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: an empty light. It's got an empty lung. So you'll

804
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: sink if you know you're not at an empty lung,

805
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: if you float back to the surface. But if you are,

806
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: you go, you breathe, exile all you think everything out

807
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 2: and your CO two builds up a lot quicker.

808
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: It's a cabonic acids comes quick.

809
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: So you were to try and either find a way

810
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: in your head to say, listen, you're fine, well you're

811
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: going to relax. You can either sing a song, you

812
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: can pitch yourself driving down the highway, you just keep

813
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: driving to the next whatever it is you want to do.

814
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: You get down there and you hold that breath.

815
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: And is this in order to mimic what happens to

816
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: you when you come off your board, for example.

817
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: And can do it. It can make you feel a

818
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: lot more comfortable on an empty lung going down and

819
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: just thinking, yeah, I'm all right, I'm all right.

820
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: How long did you got to stay there for?

821
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: Well? It's funny because I do a bit of work

822
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: with the sharks, with the Carnala sharks these days with FITZI,

823
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: I'll go down there and do all their recovery stuff

824
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: and we do that pool work and the boys will

825
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: start off, because they're not surfers, they'll start off with

826
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds and they come to the surface like a

827
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: torpedo fifteen seconds. They're like, it's that funny watching them,

828
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: but they adapt to it so quick. By the end

829
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: of it. They a lot of them can do a

830
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: minute and a half after doing four rounds on fifteen seconds,

831
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: thirty seconds, forty five minute, and I'll go to a

832
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: minute and a half. Yeah, in one in one, like

833
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: one session, one session.

834
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: And then with Taj so you get him, you do

835
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: breath work in the water with him. I want to

836
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: come back to breath work in a moment because I

837
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: want to picking brains on this. But what what would

838
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: you get him to do for leth would you get

839
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: him to resistance work?

840
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: Definitely, wanted to strengthen him up, turn him into Yeah,

841
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: wanted to create Is.

842
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: He going to do bench press? What are you going?

843
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: Because I mean the only thing he has to lift

844
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: himself up when he's standing up on it.

845
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: What sort of the way the way they surfers, tube

846
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: ride and everything. You need that sort of stability and

847
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: strength and balance because if part of the wave falls

848
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: and hit you on the back of the head where

849
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: you're trying to come out of the barrel, you need

850
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: that strength and sort of almost like a resilience to

851
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: combat that is that you're talking about leg strength strength,

852
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: hip strength strength and the way they do a turn

853
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: to where they wrap the border around the top of

854
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: the wave and come back around. It's a lot of

855
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: leg strength and core. You look at the young guys now,

856
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: they're so thick in the legs and the hips and

857
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: the core. So yeah, we did a lot of strength work,

858
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: like a lot of like and it doesn't have to

859
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: be heavy squats or heavy dead list. We were doing

860
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: a lot of single legs stuff and split squads and

861
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: single leg Romanian dead lifts just to bring that balance

862
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 2: element into it as well, and that sort of approprioception

863
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: around the uncle, knee and hip where he'd get strong

864
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: in those positions.

865
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: So how did it go with him?

866
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: So did it?

867
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: Did it change his ranking or did it change How

868
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: did you measure it? I guess for a better way.

869
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: It's hard to measure. We just measured it. Like with

870
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: his confidence, how does he feel? He felt unbelievable. Yeah,

871
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: he felt incredible. It was the best he felt in

872
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: his career. So that was that was a big one,

873
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: like how he felt, and it gave him confidence, like

874
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: when you feel when you feel and strong and resilient,

875
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: you feel confident.

876
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: And who did he have to beat?

877
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: Like who was he was up against? It was a

878
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: tough run. You know. He had Kelly Slater in his prime.

879
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: He wanted he had him all through him and Taj

880
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: had a crazy rivalry. He had Andy Eins before Andy

881
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: passed away, and then later on he had Mick and Joel.

882
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: So they were both hum mc fanning and Joel Parkins.

883
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: So they were crazy boys. Yeah, the Bolt of Boys.

884
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: They're rich, rich, rich and retired now but they've Yeah,

885
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: So he had a he had a bit of a

886
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: hard run. Through those through his career.

887
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: But that's the best people.

888
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's what you want. You want to

889
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: be if you've got to win, you've got to beat

890
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: the best.

891
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you're sitting down with him for those

892
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: sevent year period, that sevent year period I'm touring with him, Yeah,

893
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: would you say to him, did any stage you have

894
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: to sort of become his like I don't want to

895
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: call it mentor, but like help him manage his mind. Definitely,

896
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: And I'm not feeling good, I'm going to get there.

897
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: The highs and loads of professional sports are huge. Like

898
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: we'd be on the road for pretty much the whole year.

899
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: So if you if you go for a bit of

900
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: a bad run like loosed early in three events in

901
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: a row, that the whole sort of camp just feels it.

902
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: Like me, him, his girlfriend, everyone feels a pressure to

903
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: start doing well again. So there was there was times

904
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: where I had to sit him down and say, mate,

905
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: what's going on, Like, what's what's going on up here?

906
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: Because physically you're fine. And one thing he would do

907
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: was win an event and be all on a real

908
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: big high and then come into the next event. Because

909
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: you have to learn how to win. So winning winning

910
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: and losing, You've got to learn how to lose. You

911
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: have to learn how to win because you can be

912
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: on this super big high and think I've got this

913
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: and then going to the next event, lose first heat

914
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: and then the whole thing comes crashing down. I feel

915
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: like you've got to start again.

916
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: So what what what do you do about in terms

917
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: of physical exercise for example, that can help you get

918
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: through that weird period? Yeah, do you do is there

919
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: something you would prescribe for him, like in terms of

920
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: physical exercise?

921
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably give him a good couple of floggins in

922
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: the gym to get it out of him and point, yeah,

923
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: this is what we're here for. Like nothing like competing

924
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: is going to be easy compared to what we're going

925
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: to do in the gym. Make it really, make it

926
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: really hard, Say fuck it, let's go like competing, Like

927
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: you're you're going to look forward to competing after these

928
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: next couple of gym sessions. That's one way we used

929
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: to do it. I don't know if it was a

930
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: perfect way, but that's one way that worked for him.

931
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: It work for him, That worked for him.

932
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: And how does how does he how do you balance

933
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: that up though, Like you're on the surfing you know circuit.

934
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: He had his friend with him, but you're on the

935
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: surfing circuit. Made like surfing is notorious for good times

936
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: and the comps over and you're there with all your

937
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: mates and everybody's doing the best after after parties. How

938
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: do you manage that? And not you, but how do you?

939
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: How does he manage that?

940
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: That's that's a good question because there were every place

941
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: we went to on tour, there'd be a party every night,

942
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: even before the competition started and during competition. Wow, So

943
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: it was it like you had to be really care

944
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: because a couple of the boys did not give a fuck.

945
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: Were that'd see a free and out and go let's.

946
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Go and then probably some of those guys could turn

947
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: up the next thing you go, well, some of them could,

948
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: and that that put really Andrew John's levee.

949
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: Maybe a couple of people did it really well. It

950
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: took the pressure off and you're just like, yeah, I'm sweet,

951
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: let's go. Like half a couple of them did it well.

952
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: But we had this thing with Taj where if we

953
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: keep a bit of a social life and keep you know, on,

954
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: keep not make things boring. We just had this rule.

955
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: If we went out the night before and had a

956
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: few beers, we had to be in the gym at

957
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: seven am the next morning. There was no whissaw butts,

958
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: So you could go out and party, but you you'd

959
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: pay for it the next morning. So it sort of

960
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: rained it in a bit and it kept kept the

961
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: longevity of his career way longer than I think if

962
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: we just had a went just party and hope.

963
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: For the best, but you wouldn't party the night before.

964
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: We didn't, but it certainly happened, and then we would

965
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: have a bit of a let the hair down at

966
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: the end of the event.

967
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: Hugh said, yeah, after Yeah, the after party.

968
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. But even then you have to be on a

969
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: flight the next day.

970
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: So where does a suger work like? What would just

971
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: give me a bit of a We.

972
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: Normally start off on the Gold Coast from him and I.

973
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: We'd start off in yelling Up Is from Western Australia,

974
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: So we do six weeks. So we'd get there on

975
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: the third of January, third or fifth of January, and

976
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: we do six weeks of solid training, surf as much

977
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: as we could, no alcohol and get him lean and

978
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: hungry for Snapper because Snapper was his pet event that

979
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: was Snapper rocks on the Gold Coast this way, Yeah,

980
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: we come straight back over here.

981
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: Then we go to Bell's beach, so they so you

982
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: go to Snapper then then when you go to his

983
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Bell's Like, how far away between Snapper and Bell's is

984
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: in terms of time are we talking about between the events?

985
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: Probably have sometimes it just depended on the waiting periods.

986
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: But sometimes we'd have a week, two weeks, just depends.

987
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: So basically you're on all the time, on all the time, mate,

988
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 2: You going from one to the other. A footy season, yeah, yeah,

989
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: it's brutal and because you're fly, Like then we'd start Brazil, Portugal, Hawaii,

990
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: Hawaii was normally at the end of the season back then,

991
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: and then yeah, Tahiti, Fiji, USA. So we're back and forth,

992
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, Like we're on the road hard.

993
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: So would you set up his food?

994
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: Yep?

995
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: Everything, yep.

996
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: Food. Just try and eat as best we could, Like

997
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: it was never going to be perfect on the road,

998
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: but we're just try and find. We got it pretty dialed,

999
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: like we'd find the locals, farmers, farmers' markets and we'd

1000
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: stay we're here he we could afford to travel pretty comfortably,

1001
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: like we'd stay in nice places. Well, yeah, he was

1002
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: getting paid a fortune back then, so we could really

1003
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: foc He didn't mind spending the money on keeping the

1004
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: longevity of his career. He was like, I'm all for

1005
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: spent another more few more years on tour than getting

1006
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: to a point where I just fall off tour because

1007
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm either broken or unhealthy or sick. So he didn't

1008
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: mind looking after himself and obviously the cost of me

1009
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: being there as well.

1010
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: You you just mentioned Craig Fitzgibbon, the coach Coronulla. Do

1011
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: do surfers get as broken? They say something like Fitzy,

1012
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: Like fitz he's got lots of injuries from the impact.

1013
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: Do surfers get that sort of thing?

1014
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: Not that bad?

1015
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: They do have.

1016
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: They do hit their hips, the hips, their hips go.

1017
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: A lot of them have had hip hip replacements. It's

1018
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: normally the back hip. Yeah, so it's a back hip

1019
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: the way they drive out of a turn foot that's

1020
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: at the back of back foot, back foot, the back

1021
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: hipp So Ginger has left hips gone because he's good.

1022
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: He's like an old out station. They're both gone. He's sweet.

1023
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: My brother just had hipp version and my brother's on

1024
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: austrains surfing astraight whatever, it's the ginge. My brother's right,

1025
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: he's right, he's a. He's a. He's not a good foot.

1026
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: He just rides a regular surfer in his right foot,

1027
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: right hip, right hip, and he's had his right hip

1028
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: done beginning this year. But now he can't surf a

1029
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: him with his stuff. But that's interesting. I never thought

1030
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: about that because I was thinking myself, he's served on

1031
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: more thannighted. I stopped surfing like it was just too

1032
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: hard to surf locally. I couldn't stand. He kept going,

1033
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: And and you know, I wonder if one of myself

1034
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: is as a genetic, Am I going to get his

1035
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: younger than I? Am? I going to get it in

1036
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years time? Thank god?

1037
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I know what it is.

1038
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: It could be that you're right.

1039
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: It probably was not. I can't say yeah, but that's

1040
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: a that's a big chance. It's his back hip. He's

1041
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: a natural surfer, he's right hip.

1042
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1043
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: Because you'll notice, I saw a funny thing, is I

1044
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 2: sat talking about hips. I saw a photo with Taj

1045
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: and Joel Parko they're both natural footers and they're standing together.

1046
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: Their left foot was straight, their right foot was but

1047
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: both of them were standing like that with their right

1048
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: foot like that. So it's all their external rotators at

1049
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: the hip that just drawn.

1050
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: Bottle and get it to you know, because the foot

1051
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: they step back on the back foot the foot the

1052
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: pushing back back and I know those boxes had hip

1053
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: operations on the back foot. Yeah, that's interesting that like

1054
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: if you do it for too long and anything, I

1055
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: guess anything like that. I just want to you mentioned

1056
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: breath work. So I recently took my senior staff up

1057
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: to my farm and doesn't know or something like that,

1058
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: and I bought in a breath work lady because I

1059
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: thought to give them a new experience. I got onto

1060
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: through robber Trent Robinson, and because Trent likes to try

1061
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: different things like this, and and I it was interesting.

1062
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: So basically I just quickly explained to it if I'm wrong,

1063
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: but basically, you breathe in and our three mouth big breaths.

1064
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: But you do it for quite a long time, it

1065
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: doesn't you don't do it ten times we went for

1066
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: I think about forty five minutes or something like that.

1067
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: But the difference between everybody was amazing. Like one person

1068
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: fell asleep, another person actually started to.

1069
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: Cry yep, like people get very emotional.

1070
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: In my case, I got, I felt, I felt really,

1071
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: I got really clear head and I started thinking about

1072
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: things I need to do my business. I got, I

1073
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: got really a hell of a clarity, and I felt

1074
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: quite energized. I felt, I felt good. And everybody had

1075
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: different sort of outcomes and I would never thought so

1076
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: just from breathing in and out. Do you do much

1077
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: of that with.

1078
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: Your Yeah, there's heaps of it. There's some really good

1079
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: breath coaches up there. Yeah, it's unreal, It's I love it.

1080
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Do you do that's you know, whim half Yeah, guru

1081
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: of it all?

1082
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: Do you do you? I have have done, been to

1083
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: a couple of whim seminars over the years. Yeah, and

1084
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: got in the ice after it, but that was years ago.

1085
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: But I I do, I don't really go. I love

1086
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: it and I go to a beautiful place like free drugs,

1087
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: almost like tearing down the arms, tingling your face, go

1088
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: to a different place. It feels amazing.

1089
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: But I you do it on your own, you do

1090
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: it with a personation through it.

1091
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: I like to be do it guided you get more

1092
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: out of it, I think, because then you don't have

1093
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: to think you're not looking at the stop watch. You've

1094
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: got someone telling you how to do it. I love

1095
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: someone showing me how to do it and different different

1096
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: aspects of it, like you learn from other people, obviously,

1097
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love it and I get a great

1098
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: experience out of it, and I always feel better than

1099
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: before I started it, feel way better.

1100
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and you mentioned meditation. I sort of had

1101
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: a bit of a riview bit, but yeah, just I

1102
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: know there's lots of apps around that you can use.

1103
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: Why is meditation? How is it that it's become so

1104
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: acceptable more accepted? Once upon time it's all about whoo

1105
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: people doing it? They basically up and viron or wherever.

1106
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: Well they're sitting on a mountain and to bed or something,

1107
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: or there are monks, but meditation has form part of it.

1108
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: I do it every day, and even if I need

1109
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: do five minutes, it's okay. And even if I just

1110
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: I can't do it properly, I still try to do

1111
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: it because I think it obviously, But why do you

1112
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: think meditation has become so acceptable today? It's really necessary.

1113
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 2: Definitely because of mental health. I think there's so much

1114
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: we're so much more aware of mental health these days,

1115
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: and we're so much more like I don't know if

1116
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot more of it in society, but where

1117
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: people are more open about speaking about it. So I

1118
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 2: think it's more acceptable to meditate because if that helps

1119
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: your mental health, then why not accept it.

1120
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: And it's acceptable to have a problem with mental health

1121
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: or recognize you recognize.

1122
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: About it and talk about it and then go and

1123
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: do your whatever it is that suits you, like I've got.

1124
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: You see a lot of online people saying, oh, look

1125
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: at these blokes doing heavy dead list. It's bad for

1126
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: their back. But I know mates that suffer from a

1127
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: little bit of mental healthy're not too bad. But they'll

1128
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 2: get in the gym, put their headphones on and lift

1129
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: heavy weights, and the mental health they feel so much

1130
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: better when they walk out of the gym. So there's

1131
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: no What I'm saying is there's no right and wrong

1132
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: with what people should be exercising or the way they

1133
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: do things, because they might be doing it for their

1134
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: mental health, that they might have found a way that

1135
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: clears their head and makes them feel resilient when they

1136
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: walk out of whatever they're doing the gym meditation, So

1137
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: why sit there and judge what they're doing when you

1138
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: don't know it could be for their mental health. And

1139
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: that's why that's getting back to the question. That's why

1140
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: I think meditation is so acceptable these days.

1141
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: So in your training programs that you put together for

1142
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: your clients, we've touched on breath work, we've touched on meditation,

1143
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: we've touched on types of exercise. You've talked about sleep,

1144
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: and you talked about nutrition intuition. You have food and

1145
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: hydration really important. Because we talk about doing the right food.

1146
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: You've got to talk about drinking the rent amount of

1147
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: water or whatever the case may be. But whatever it

1148
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: is you're drinking, electrolytes and stuff. That all gets put together.

1149
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: That's a quite a big package for people to digest,

1150
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: especially they're new to this. If it's not their goal,

1151
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: they're fifty a bit able to wait what may be

1152
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: or were maybe the individual is a sports person before

1153
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: it hasn't really done anything. They've gone to the doctor,

1154
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: doctor's done a blood test. They said, listen to your

1155
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: chlestuous to ailh blah blah blah, you're going to lose weight.

1156
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: What did dexter. You know you're out of shape, you've

1157
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: got a bit of visceral fat. Whatever. How did they

1158
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: take it when you first put it to them? Is

1159
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: it a shock?

1160
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: What the way I explained to them, you can say

1161
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: you get this visualization when someone says so. By the

1162
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: way I explain, it's a whole holy stick, wheel, sleep, nutrition, hydration.

1163
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: But everything comes together in a wheel. You take out

1164
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: one of those pieces, the wheel starts to spin a

1165
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: little worse. Take out two, three, the wheel falls apart,

1166
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: spins like shit. So the way I explain it is,

1167
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: don't chase perfection because you're not going to get perfection

1168
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: out of all of those things. Just be good. That's it.

1169
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: Be good at every single one of those things and

1170
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: just try and improve on them a little bit each week.

1171
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: And again. If you go backwards and fall off, it's fine.

1172
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: Just get back on the program and try and do

1173
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: the best you can. But that's going back a bit.

1174
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: As I said, try not to chase perfection because it's

1175
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: not there. And if you try and chase perfection, it'll

1176
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: do your head in and you'll just say fuck it.

1177
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: Oh you stop doing it, You say fuck it, I

1178
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: can't do it. It's too much for me, it's for

1179
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: who the fuck could do this in a week?

1180
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Totally.

1181
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: Just be good and that's the way to get it,

1182
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: and you'll progress. You'll get on that nice flow state

1183
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: where you're slowly creeping up the hill. You don't want

1184
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: to go up hill a million miles an hour and

1185
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: fall off the hill. But with exercise nutrition, we're looking

1186
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: for longevity. And that's what I try and teach that sustainable, sustainable,

1187
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. If it's sustainable, you're doing really well.

1188
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: It's not too much, it's not too little, you're not

1189
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: getting bored, you're not falling off off the heel. That's

1190
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: what we're looking for and that's the way I'll explain

1191
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: it to them.

1192
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: So this brings you to the we challenge to something

1193
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: you're just close to your heart. Yep, what's that about, mate?

1194
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: Mate? So going back to Dexascans, I get it. I

1195
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: get So we call them chapters. There's a bit of

1196
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: a g up, So we get chapters. We've got chapters

1197
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: in Rubra Lenox head Byron, chapters of people that come

1198
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: together and train from all walks of life. Right, you can,

1199
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: no matter where you've come from, you can come down

1200
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: and join these chapters and they're just groups of people

1201
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: and it forms a strong community. That's what set this up.

1202
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't set them up. I set the

1203
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: Gold Coast one up and then I've jumped in on

1204
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: the other chapters. The Lenox chapter, they already they're already

1205
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: going Mruber chapter. They've got ninety people. There's one in

1206
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: Newcastle now. But all these chapters come in and do

1207
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: do my challenge.

1208
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: So you set the challenger.

1209
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: I set the challenge up. Yeah, I set it up.

1210
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: It's all online. So we got one starting on the

1211
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: third of February next year, and that's the big one.

1212
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: It goes for eight weeks no alcohol and doing exactly

1213
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: what we've talked about today, the whole holistic side of health.

1214
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: Good not perfect, Yep, it's just good.

1215
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: Do do you talk to everybody online?

1216
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: I try, and yeah, we've got we've got a WhatsApp,

1217
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: good old WhatsApp good for training for training, So we

1218
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: get we get sort of the last one. We had

1219
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: two hundred people do it. So we've got chefs, other trainers,

1220
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: like I don't know everything. I've got a nutrition us

1221
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: on board because I just wanted to make the nutrition

1222
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: side more professional. So I've got Kelly McDonald who does

1223
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: She's on the same wavelength as nutrition as me, but

1224
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: she's really good at what she does.

1225
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: And she said that, but when you say nutrition, Johnny

1226
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: is amout. She sets up a program what she suggested does.

1227
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: She does food suggestions and then if you want to

1228
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: go into more details, she will you can do a

1229
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: private console. Obviously it costs more money. She will do

1230
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: a private console and set you up and again for sustainability.

1231
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: It's not just because. A funny story about that is

1232
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: the year a few years ago Pat Rafton won the challenge.

1233
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know him, but I know he's

1234
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: a good mate, engineer.

1235
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: Good good man. And he won the challenge. He smashed everyone.

1236
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: He's still a competitive but he's big, strong like you

1237
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: think you know Ossie legend, and he smashed everyone in

1238
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: the challenge. He lost like four five percent potty fat,

1239
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 2: put on about four point five percent lean muscle mass,

1240
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: lost half his visceral fat. But he got to the

1241
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: end of the challenge and I spoke to him and said,

1242
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: how do you how you feeling? Pat? He goes, mate,

1243
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: I was hungry the whole time. So he was hungry

1244
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: and angry because he was pretty much not starving himself,

1245
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: but he wasn't eating that many calories. Because he's such

1246
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: a competitor. He wanted to win this thing, and he

1247
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: train till he was almost broken, Like he didn't do

1248
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: my training program, he did his own, and he cooked

1249
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: himself like you were saying, he was absolutely cooked. And

1250
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: he goes, I'm going to have a month off the

1251
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: gym and I'm going to go and eat shit. And

1252
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, it's not really what the challenge

1253
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: is all about. Like the challenge, I wanted to make

1254
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: it so people can eat and live and train like

1255
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: this for the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. So

1256
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: we because that theme of the challenge was just deal

1257
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: with it, So I do a different theme each challenge.

1258
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: That that year was just deal with it, so no

1259
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: matter what comes out, you just deal with it, get it,

1260
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: get it done. And it was a bit everyone took

1261
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: it literally and went overboard on the training and a

1262
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: bit and didn't need enough. So that's when I thought,

1263
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: I'll pull it back. And the next challenge I did

1264
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: was sustainability, Like let's make this, like I just said,

1265
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: five ten, fifteen, twenty years, we can we will quite

1266
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: happily train like that, live the rest life, live this life.

1267
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: And it was a way better challenge people. That's when

1268
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: I started getting a lot of feedback about how how

1269
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: good people felt, not just physically but mentally because they

1270
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: had they knew they could live like that for the

1271
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: for a long period of time. So that's when I

1272
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: was That's when I was thinking, all right, let's let's

1273
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: cut out stress as well. Let's cut out the stress.

1274
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: So that's when I proved through in the meditation side

1275
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: of it as well.

1276
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: So do do do do you sort of direct them

1277
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: to to onund of the meditation apps and just say

1278
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: pick one doesn't really matter, but do you have to

1279
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: fill a format and sort of say okay they do?

1280
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: You keep accountable accountable definitely.

1281
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: So that's why we get the DEXA scan at the start, right,

1282
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 2: so we get the dexas skiins. Everyone gets two hundred

1283
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: scans coming at me. I'm like, oh god, how am

1284
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: I going to calculate this? Then don't get another two

1285
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: hundred Dexter scans at the end. At the end, but

1286
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: now we've got a system on the on the website,

1287
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: where people can upload their own data so they can

1288
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: log in, they can log in, put their own dexter

1289
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: scan results in and whatever the training can do. Their

1290
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: training is all on the YEP. They can either train

1291
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: do my training program or they can train with their

1292
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: own trainer. So you put a program out to put

1293
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: a program, it's all there is.

1294
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: Do you put in your program every week or is

1295
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: it one program?

1296
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: It's a four week block, so you do one four

1297
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: week you do trained, because I think it takes about

1298
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: four weeks to learn the movements properly, even if you're

1299
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: going back and doing a squat, like just learning how

1300
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: to damn it. It's all on video. It's all everything's there.

1301
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: And then after the four weeks we pretty much change

1302
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: your program because then, like I said, you don't want

1303
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: people to get bored. And some people after four weeks

1304
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: like the FU all right, what's what's next? Four week block?

1305
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: Two four week blocks for.

1306
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: The and then people interacting with each other like can

1307
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: you not compete? But can you sort of not Strava

1308
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: but you.

1309
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: Like, no, it's competitive because we do. Because we do.

1310
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: I get each chapter to compete against each other. So

1311
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: I'll take the So you say we've got ninety blocks

1312
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: or seventy blocks from Ruber, fifty from Lenox, forty from Byron,

1313
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: thirty or forty from where I'm from. We had South Australia,

1314
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: New Zealand jump in and do it, and I'd really

1315
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: like Rural Australia to start jumping on board as well.

1316
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: That's that's a goal. But I take the top five

1317
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: results from each chapter and we add them up. So

1318
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: I think last year Lenox had one. In the year

1319
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: before Byron one, So that's that just makes the chapters

1320
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: a bit more competitive. And then when you've got blokes,

1321
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: say traveling up to the Gold Coast from Sydney, they

1322
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: can jump in and train with our chapter. Vice versa.

1323
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: So do you train if you're in a Chapter's something

1324
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: in the Ruba chapter, do I physically train with these

1325
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: guys like you pick someone's garage or a gym or

1326
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: something of that. That's it, okay, So you actually do.

1327
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: Actually trained together. It creates a community. So you train together,

1328
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: you go and jump in the ocean and all go

1329
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: and have a coffee together, go about your dates. It's

1330
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: a massive community. So we're trying to create a strong, healthy,

1331
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: vibrant community. So these chapters, they all say if they

1332
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: meet three times a week or twice a week, they

1333
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 2: go and train together and then they can do their

1334
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 2: own training, or they can put they can get small

1335
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: groups and splinter off and do their weight training that

1336
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: I set out. It just depends where they want to

1337
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: go with it.

1338
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: We know they joint used to have in Bondi and

1339
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: North bond there were just train the garage.

1340
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: The garage them. That's where it all started. Really, yeah,

1341
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: that's where it all started with five guys. I used

1342
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: to train a group of actually small garage, tiny little

1343
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: single garage. That's where we trained for years. And I

1344
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: used to train four guys in there, and I was

1345
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: just looking for something to motivate them. I was like,

1346
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: I was always interested in Dexa scans, and I was like,

1347
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: all right, boys, let's go get a Dexas scan. Not

1348
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: drink alcohol for eight weeks and then we'll get a

1349
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: Dexas scan at the end and see who wins. Like,

1350
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: see who can lose the most, lose the most body fat,

1351
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: put on the most lean muscle mass, and lose the

1352
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 2: most visceral fat, the important fat, that fat that sits

1353
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: around your belly. So that all those three results we

1354
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: look at and then we sort of did a calculation

1355
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: at the end and see who wins.

1356
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: Has it done anything for mental health?

1357
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 2: Definitely. I didn't set out to do that, to be honest, like,

1358
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: I didn't set out for it to be a I've

1359
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: set it out to be more of a physical challenge.

1360
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: But the amount of people that bring me after it

1361
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: and say, mate, my mental health, I didn't realize that

1362
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: I was in a rut. They're not like obviously, they're

1363
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: not like in a bad state of mental health. Yeah,

1364
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: but they drink. They're just over drinking alcohol and using

1365
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: that as a bit of a masking agent for their

1366
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: whatever they're going through, stress at work, financial stress. And

1367
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: then at the end they go, mate, might not only

1368
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: feel physically better, but I feel mentally better. So that's

1369
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: a big that was massive to hear that off a

1370
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: lot of people.

1371
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: How many how many people, let's say, so you do it,

1372
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: how many times you?

1373
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: I did it twice last year, but this one I

1374
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: don't know. Last year at this at the same time

1375
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: of a year, I got two hundred people doing it.

1376
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: I'd like to get four or five hundred.

1377
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: If someone's build a chapter set up a chapter, Set

1378
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: up a chapter. How do they do it?

1379
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: They just get a group of small group of people

1380
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: from the local community, pick two mornings, just meet either

1381
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: down the beach or at a local gym or at

1382
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: someone's place, and you just people gravitate towards it. They

1383
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: hear about it, start a thread. Like I said before,

1384
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: the threads are the best thing for group training because

1385
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: you can send out one quick message and everyone's on it.

1386
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: Everyone supports each other. A bit of a note dickhead policy.

1387
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: And how do they register? Though? With the APE, we

1388
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: challenges like you have to go register yourself.

1389
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, when that time comes around in February, you jump on.

1390
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: It costs two hundred and fifty bucks to do the

1391
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 2: challenge and then you pay for your own two dex

1392
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 2: of scans. There are one hundred dollars each year. It

1393
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: cost four hundred and fifty bucks all up to do

1394
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: the challenge. But you like, if you're a drinker, you'll

1395
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: save that money in two or three weeks a couple

1396
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: of nights.

1397
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's how many have you been doing this?

1398
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: Because I mean I remember you it's about six years

1399
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: seven bond longer than that though, Yeah, that's.

1400
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: I've been training in Bondi around those places for years.

1401
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: But I think we're up to about challenge number seven

1402
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: coming out.

1403
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: Number seven And why do you do it? It's not

1404
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: for money making, so why are you doing way John

1405
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: Gannon doing it?

1406
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: I really enjoy just seeing people come together in a

1407
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: community and go have each other's backs. Where like even

1408
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: when the floods were on, like up in twenty two,

1409
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: when the floods were on it is more and all

1410
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: around the down towards Lenox and all around the back

1411
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: of Lenox Head, New Brighton and all those places, it

1412
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: was the local community that got up and saved people

1413
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: and help people out. There was no one else for

1414
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: four days. It was the boys on their jet skis

1415
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: and in Tinney's the women were on the boat ramps.

1416
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: Like local businesses were bringing down jerry cans full of fuel,

1417
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: they're bringing down generators that everyone just come together as

1418
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: a community and sorted it out. But there's like without that,

1419
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: those people were in all sorts of trouble.

1420
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: I remember hearing a story that mid Fanning contract contacted

1421
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: Musk and got the got the Starlight Starlink Starlink Starling

1422
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: services and for people Lis.

1423
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: More people and there's more and all around the back.

1424
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: Of Woodell and all those Ye war that was really good.

1425
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 2: That was bad mate. They were stuck. They were stuck

1426
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: in their roof cavities for four days. Yeah, no phone,

1427
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 2: no food, no water, no nothing, and.

1428
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: Never is closed down because an internet needs cable and.

1429
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: You couldn't get there. You could only get there by

1430
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: boat or jet. Scared.

1431
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting off the back of that that

1432
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: might join up there. And I thought, you know, I've

1433
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: got I had, you know, some other internet service. I

1434
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: won't see which one, And I thought, stuff that I'm

1435
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: going to support starlink. So I got Starlink on the

1436
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: two houses just just because of what McK fanning did.

1437
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: I thought I would reward made any difference and stuff,

1438
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: but I thought it would make it. I thought, no, no,

1439
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: I'll make it. My decisions on going with that brand

1440
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: was at the time it was a few years. It

1441
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: was a bit more expensive because I had to buy

1442
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: the kid much super now but great, by the way,

1443
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: unbelievable service that stunting like. I never get downtime like

1444
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: even when like last weekend it was like belting down,

1445
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: it was still I still was still finding that my

1446
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: dish is still finding the satellite. And it was and

1447
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: it was perfect. I mean I had like a little blit,

1448
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: but it was heavy duty weather. And that's off the

1449
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 1: back of something to someone like Mick Fanning doing what

1450
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: he did, and it was just me. It was a

1451
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: whole lot of other blokes. There was a big gang

1452
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: of them, and they're the sorts of people who were

1453
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: doing this. We challenge.

1454
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: That's it. That's what I want to create, like strong communities.

1455
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: But when the ship does hit the fan, like even

1456
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: little things that happened that we don't even know about,

1457
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: like someone's kid sick, that that group of people go

1458
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: into a fundrate like anything like that, just to create

1459
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 2: like because I think that's what we're lacking, like a strong, healthy,

1460
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: vibrant communities. Especially after COVID we realized how social people

1461
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: are as well. So now we've got our social life back.

1462
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: We don't have to go to the pub and drink

1463
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 2: ten schooners and write yourself off and just talk shit

1464
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: and you don't even remember what your mate said to you.

1465
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: Anyway, if you do, you just repeating shit you've been

1466
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: other time.

1467
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the same shit. So I'd rather see

1468
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: people come down and train together, have a swim in

1469
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: the ocean or in a cold plunge or whatever they've

1470
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: got river, go and have a coffee, talk about whatever,

1471
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: like the shit that comes out so funny, and you

1472
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: remember what each other said, you made it, you made

1473
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: a new mate, and you go about your day and

1474
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: you feel better about yourself.

1475
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel better hearing you talk about it that

1476
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: because you know it's funny. You know it's nearly full circle.

1477
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: Because what you're telling me now, what you're trying to create,

1478
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: letting others create, helping others create is sort of like

1479
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: the original foundation premise of the Brah boys after each other,

1480
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: but without all the other stuff that went with it.

1481
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: There's just older blokes probably probably they're not twenty year olds,

1482
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: probably blokes in thirty forties whatever, building a community themselves,

1483
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: healthy community, looking after each other, looking out for each other,

1484
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: and also enjoying each other's company, which is sort of

1485
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: where you started when you're definitely but you've just taken

1486
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: the best part of it and then put it into

1487
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: what you're doing now. A bit of stuff and you

1488
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: ever thought about.

1489
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 2: That, yeah or not really? Nah, Now that you just

1490
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: mentioned it, I am.

1491
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: But because every human likes that, mate, we all want

1492
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: to be part of something.

1493
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 2: I love it. It's build so quick too. Like the

1494
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 2: one in Newcastle started a year ago with like four

1495
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: or five blokes, they've got fifty or sixty blokes turn

1496
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: wow to each session surface a bit of everything, a

1497
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: bit of everything for x footy players, surfers, mate ex crims, whatever,

1498
01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.

1499
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: There's no judgments.

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Speaker 2: There's no judgments. Yeah, it's blokes that have come out

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: of a drug and rehab rehab that really come down

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 2: and love it because it gives them a bit of

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01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: a purpose. They've got something to get up for the

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01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 2: next day. It's whoever, whoever wants to come and join

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01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: in like it's and not like now the women are

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01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: starting to jump in. You've got a lot of women

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01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: jumping into it as well. Maruba have got ten or

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01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: so girls, young girls that come down and jump in

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: and smash the session with the boys. So now that's

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01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: the other thing to make it more women inclusive as well.

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: I'd love to get more women on the challenge because

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: then the other thing is when you've got mum and

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: dad doing the challenge, the healthy living and the healthy

1514
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: lifestyle filters down to the rest of the family without

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01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: even saying anything. We get a bit of feedback.

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: May we do what we see? Yep, we do, don't

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01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 1: do what we're told?

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kidkeys, I tell you kids to eat that,

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01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 2: eat that. But if they see Mum and dad cooking

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01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 2: healthy and then we get a few few people coming

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01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: back with a bit of feedback saying, the kids want

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: to prepare the with me, the kids want to come up, jump,

1523
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 2: jump up in the morning and come for a run

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: with me. So that there's that element of it as

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: well that we get a bit of feedback about.

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01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: As well, especially if you start introducing your kids to

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: things like breath work, these unusual things. Breath work. Maybe

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01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: not a it doesn't have to be a cold plunch

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01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: it could you just.

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,959
Speaker 2: Jump in the ocean, jump in the ocean, jumping.

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: And walking around the grass like I remember when I

1532
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: was a kid, I had a pair of thongs.

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Speaker 2: So that was it.

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01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: Summer come so schools at school, so the only I

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01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 1: had two bit shoes, a pair of sanches and a

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: pair of school shoes and a pair of thongs. In

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01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: the summer it was thongs or barefoot everywhere. You know

1538
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: in those days, you know you're stepping on Bindi's those

1539
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: bindie things just getting cats, I said, and the plucking

1540
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: about it like if a kid they stood and they

1541
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: freak out.

1542
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: You know, you just step on, step on, a up,

1543
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: a bit of resilience, a step.

1544
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: On a nail, and then you be down the door

1545
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: to getting a and a shot. I mean a number

1546
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: of times I've got on those things and I reckon.

1547
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like some old dude, but

1548
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: I just think that, and I think my Grandson's what

1549
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is I've got three grandsons. I think

1550
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: about they ever going to experience that sort of stuff

1551
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: or is it going to be their life is going

1552
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: to be about like protecting and make sure that don't

1553
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: put your shoes on there's bees around here, or put

1554
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: your shoes on you might step on a rusty ale.

1555
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't want them to get the rusty air and

1556
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: in their foot, But at the same time, it's a

1557
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: fine line. I do want them to experience some life

1558
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: like it's funny, you know, my you know when my grandson,

1559
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: one of my second eldest grandson, my son said me

1560
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: a photograph of him on the weekend. And this is

1561
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night, Saturday night. And when you

1562
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: get a message from your son.

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01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: Eleventh's what's happening. So he's.

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01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: He's at the hospital and in Sydney, my grandson who's

1565
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: won one one year and it's three weeks old. Why

1566
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: old as they come? And he climbed up on top

1567
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: of a bean bag and fell off onto a concrete floor.

1568
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: So he opened his head up. He's got the biggest

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: gash on his head, like big gash on his head.

1570
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, and the worst part about is, you know

1571
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: he got there at nine o'clock, at nine o'clock at night.

1572
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: The worst part I was still at eleven waiting for

1573
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: someone to come to stitch them up. That's the hospital system,

1574
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: because as that the Prince wils but and.

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was.

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01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: And he stitched up now and he got three stitches,

1577
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: and he said he's got a bend. And I thought himself, yeah,

1578
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: but you know, it's sort of I don't know, it's

1579
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: sort of okay too.

1580
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, it's another wrong.

1581
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: And his older brother was crying and I said, and

1582
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: I thought, well that's okay too. You see your little

1583
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: brother get injured, you feel something, and that's something you

1584
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: never forget when you're when you're six or seven and

1585
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: your little brother's one, you will never forget that incident

1586
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: and those little sort of natural humor and things that

1587
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: happened to us, Like that was the same before running

1588
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 1: around with your bare feet on the grass and standing

1589
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: on a little flower that might have been gett a

1590
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: beasting mate. They're all they're all nature's warnings.

1591
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 2: And builds up a bit of resilience, up, a bit

1592
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: of grit.

1593
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: Totally, yeah, we need it. I think we need it.

1594
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: And then also your eight week challenge, it's sort of

1595
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 1: an older person's version of what I just said, Like

1596
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: it's about being natural. Stop drinking. What would you eat,

1597
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: eat well, sleep well, train your ass off, have a goal.

1598
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: Talk to your mates about it, because train your ass

1599
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: off on your own is really hard. Talk to your

1600
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: mates about it. Watch the day there down because you'd

1601
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: be rest sure you're gonna have a ship day. Pick

1602
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: each other up, Say come on, mate, let's get into it.

1603
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: If I turn up, I altern it because I know

1604
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:51,879
Speaker 1: you're turning up because.

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01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

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01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to let you down. Totally, really like

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01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: this morning, I didn't train because I've got a bit

1608
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: later and a bit late. And but if I was

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01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 1: meeting someone, there's no way in the world if I

1610
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: went to bed at two in the morning, I was

1611
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: still turned up at six because I don't want to

1612
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: let someone down. Not myself, but I'll let myself down

1613
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: every time. But if I got someone else, I don't

1614
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,839
Speaker 1: want to let him down. So I think that community

1615
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: thing is really important. Change. He's a ripper, I got.

1616
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: It's funny talking about a blake who we know needs

1617
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: to do something about his training regime. And again said him,

1618
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: beget him on the out we challenge. Yeah, maybe we

1619
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: should build a little group and him and a.

1620
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 2: Few others get up on die chapter go.

1621
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's a Rooster's guy, so we could do

1622
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: another another rounded either everywhere. You're not going to tell

1623
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: me that bunny support support, Oh my god. And so

1624
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: it was ours pumping what's wrong?

1625
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 2: All of my best mates Fish from Rubra, Mark Fisher

1626
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: who's good mates with Ginge and Ginge two of my

1627
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 2: best mates Risters two of my best closest friends. So

1628
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 2: I'm used to it mate, And then I know of

1629
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: Trent Robot well another obviously the coach.

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01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, surround advice everywhere. So I want to wish the

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01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: best for the date in February, third February. I want

1632
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: to wish the best for the third. I want to

1633
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: be more. You don't need. I want to wish all

1634
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: the people join up the best outcome. That's great. It's

1635
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: a great, great initiative and like, if you're listening and

1636
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: you want to get motivated, it's called the eight week Challenge.

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01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 2: Is Big Challenge, Gate Challenge.

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01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: So is there a website.

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01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: Website, Yeah, we'll put them on the link below.

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: Okay, go there, get a gang together. Register whenever the

1641
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: time comes to registration and all brack.

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01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks, thanks mark mate, thank you