WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 14 November

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<v Speaker 1>Late, welcome the Late to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Store and filling in tonight

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<v Speaker 3>for Caleb Bond from the Menzies Research and Freyer Leitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to have you with us, Freyer, awesome to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get through tonight, so let's get cracking. A little later,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about one of those stories that can only

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<v Speaker 3>happen in Australia. A family come home to find an

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<v Speaker 3>animal they were not expecting in their bed. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>one of their pets. We'll show you what it was

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<v Speaker 3>a little later. Plus, when we get to the papers,

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<v Speaker 3>that the cost of renewables is a lot higher than

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<v Speaker 3>you've been told. Try half a trillion dollars higher. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the front page of tomorrow's Daily Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll unpack that.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus Maya have canceled the opening of their Christmas window

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<v Speaker 3>display after threats from Palestinian protesters. So all of that

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<v Speaker 3>when we look at the papers. But first, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't even taken office yet, but the lefty meltdowns continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night, The Guardian, a former newspaper, announced they will

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<v Speaker 3>no longer be posting articles on Twitter. Here's the great

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<v Speaker 3>thing about this story, though. You know when the Guardian

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<v Speaker 3>post articles on Twitter, Freyer and Liz, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>have a look and most of their articles get like

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred likes, maybe one hundred and twenty likes, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred likes.

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<v Speaker 4>They be very kind. Ye.

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<v Speaker 3>The post that the Guardian put up saying they'll no

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<v Speaker 3>longer be on Twitter had twenty nine thousand likes.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that tell you they I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>they have to announce on Twitter that they're leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like an airport where you have to announce

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<v Speaker 3>your departure. But they said that the benefits of being

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter are now outweighed by the negatives because of

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<v Speaker 3>what they described as quote disturbing content. Can I suggest

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the Guardian would be a little less disturbed about

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<v Speaker 3>the content on Twitter if they didn't read their own

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter feed. Let me give you an example or two

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<v Speaker 3>of this. Lots of things that Guardian have been posting

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter, and remember they're worried about disturbing content. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the articles they posted to Twitter. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>okay for scientists to weep over climate change? I think

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<v Speaker 3>we can all agree that's a waste of a tweet.

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<v Speaker 3>All about this one? Stop calling women girls. It's either

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<v Speaker 3>patronizing or sexually suggestive.

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<v Speaker 2>What about this one?

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<v Speaker 3>The Guardian posted teaching my daughter to cook does not

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<v Speaker 3>make me a bad feminist. This is one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually tweeted an article. Remember the Guardian, they're leaving

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter because of the disturbing content, and yet they tweeted

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<v Speaker 3>an article, the headline of which read, I'd read the

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<v Speaker 3>day my daughter's poos get smaller. I have read that

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<v Speaker 3>is about I don't why let me give you two more?

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<v Speaker 3>Barbecue is an American tradition of enslaved Africans and Native Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>And one final headline from the Guardian, would you believe it?

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<v Speaker 2>Should?

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<v Speaker 3>It really be a crime to look at child pornography?

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<v Speaker 3>And the Guardian are worried about disturbing content on Twitter. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>now that they've left Twitter, Liz, the amount of disturbing

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<v Speaker 3>content has been reduced drastically. Talk about own goal.

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<v Speaker 1>The transition to new media is full steam ahead. Last

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<v Speaker 1>night we were telling you about the ratings deep dive off

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<v Speaker 1>a clip being experienced in CNN MSNBC post the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Now The Guardian, the mouthpiece of the establishment, is joining

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<v Speaker 1>their ranks just by bowing out unasked. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>real reason why they did this, though, is because they

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<v Speaker 1>have been losing on average sixteen followers for every single

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<v Speaker 1>tweet they post, which amounts to thirty six thousand followers

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<v Speaker 1>unsubscribing from The Guardian in the last thirty days.

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<v Speaker 4>So they know, ex users.

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<v Speaker 1>We've figured out I'm not interested in our propaganda.

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<v Speaker 4>They are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not interested in the utter slop we are calling

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<v Speaker 1>news and feeding them.

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<v Speaker 4>So I absolutely love this.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk quickly followed up by the way being like

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<v Speaker 1>the Guardian is a dying publication.

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<v Speaker 4>And funniest of all.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the fact that they finished up this statement being

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<v Speaker 1>like we're leaving there's all these right wing conspiracy theories

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<v Speaker 1>and racism, always with the racism. Obviously there's so much racism.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they finished their little statement by saying we

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<v Speaker 1>are supported by readers, so if you can please pitch

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<v Speaker 1>in and help us out, you are our sole benefactors.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, leaving out the fact that Bill Gates has

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<v Speaker 1>donated well over ten million dollars to this establishment mouthpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>So here they are crying poor.

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<v Speaker 4>The truth of the matter Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>They simply can't compete on a level playing field, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what Elon Musk turned X into when he got

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<v Speaker 1>all the Conservatives out of Twitter jail when he bored

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<v Speaker 1>it in twenty twenty two. Now they're all crying poor,

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<v Speaker 1>either leaving or they literally can't have the heat.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, funnily enough, people aren't particularly interested in far

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<v Speaker 5>left propaganda. They had to struggle through it when Twitter

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<v Speaker 5>was run by lefties, and now that they don't have

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<v Speaker 5>to see it in their feed, it's no surprise that

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<v Speaker 5>people just simply scroll past, unsubscribe, unfollow. I mean it

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<v Speaker 5>truly is just ridiculous, to be honest, though, I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>even know The Guardian had a Twitter account until they

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<v Speaker 5>announced they were leaving.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, clearly they've not been very SINU haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Been a subscriber, Pryer.

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<v Speaker 3>I wondered why you were always so happy. It's because

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<v Speaker 3>you weren't reading The Guardian. It's not only The Guardian

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<v Speaker 3>who have now boycotted Twitter as a result of Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's election win. Jamie Lee Curtis, the actress, is no

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<v Speaker 3>longer on Twitter. I'm not sure how any of us

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<v Speaker 3>will sleep at night, and Don Lemon, the former CNN

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<v Speaker 3>host will He's announced to everybody on Twitter that he's

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<v Speaker 3>leaving Twitter.

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<v Speaker 4>Here is hi, everyone.

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<v Speaker 6>I have loved connecting with all of you on Twitter

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<v Speaker 6>and then on x for all of these years, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Time for me to leave the platform.

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<v Speaker 3>Heart's breaking all over the world because of that announcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Don Lemon actually said, I once believed that Twitter was

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<v Speaker 3>a place for honest debate and discussion, transparency and free speech,

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<v Speaker 3>but I now feel it does not serve that purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a guy who used to host a show

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<v Speaker 3>on CNN.

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<v Speaker 4>For real, that's all he's known for.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, this is Don Lemon, and we still screenmembercy Honest

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<v Speaker 1>debates the infamous interview that he did with Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>where Elon Musk was like, well, you're for censorship and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, and Don Lemon's like, no, no, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, and then Elon Musk basically just gave

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<v Speaker 1>a short synopsis of everything Don Lemon had said in

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<v Speaker 1>the interview and.

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<v Speaker 4>Said, yes, yes you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that this platform, my platform, must be censored. Otherwise, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's rife with racism and conspiracy theories, et.

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<v Speaker 4>Cetera, and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was absolutely do you remember that.

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<v Speaker 5>I do remember that, and I must say I love

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<v Speaker 5>seeing the Lemon be a little sour. It's pretty entertaining

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<v Speaker 5>to watch. But another person, I would have had no

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<v Speaker 5>idea he had a Twitter account unless he announced he

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<v Speaker 5>was leaving.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, it's pretty ironic.

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<v Speaker 5>To claim that Elon Musk's X is about censorship when

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<v Speaker 5>before Elon Musk took over, there was legitimate censorship. Did

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<v Speaker 5>he prefer a time when discussions around COVID were censored?

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<v Speaker 5>When the President of the United States was kicked off

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<v Speaker 5>the platform?

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<v Speaker 4>That is censorship.

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<v Speaker 5>What Elon Musk has done with X is truly transformative,

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<v Speaker 5>and as you said, Liz, it is revolutionizing journalism, and

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<v Speaker 5>people like The Lemon and the Propaganda Guardian they will

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<v Speaker 5>be left behind in this new world.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 3>They're upset that people they disagree with are allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>exist on Twitter, so that's why they're leaving it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're also there retired of community notes, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I then went to the Guardian Twitter feed and

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<v Speaker 1>checked out a lot of their posts community notes. Now

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<v Speaker 1>anyone can slap a community note on anyone's tweet and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like ah ah, excuse me, correction, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian had a bountiful supply of those to the States

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<v Speaker 1>now where it is a great day for democracy, ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen, because today is the day that we learnt

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<v Speaker 1>that the GOP has clinched the trifecta. Not only have

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<v Speaker 1>they won the Senate and of course the presidency, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are maintaining their majority in the House.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a perfect day for Donald Trump to do

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<v Speaker 1>the usual I'm taking over from the president visit with

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<v Speaker 1>President elect and current president shaking hands. Now, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are all over this like a rash, a

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<v Speaker 1>good one, being.

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<v Speaker 4>Like these guys seem.

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<v Speaker 1>To be great mates. Watch this short clip and see

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<v Speaker 1>what you think. There seems to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>genuine regard going on here.

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<v Speaker 6>President elect, former president and you found congratulations, thank you,

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<v Speaker 6>and looking forward to having Like we said, it's through

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<v Speaker 6>the transition. Soever we can make sure you're a comedy

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<v Speaker 6>what you need and we're gonna get a chance to

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<v Speaker 6>talk across some out to this good welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Bling back, no animosity, all smiles, and check out this

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<v Speaker 1>happy snap of the Bidens with Trump on this auspicious occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the size of these smiles and it seems genuine.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong in saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Winners are grinners?

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<v Speaker 1>There's no convincing me now that the Bidens didn't. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>as gossip has had it, voted for Trump at the

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<v Speaker 1>election in order to flip the bird to the establishment

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<v Speaker 1>that had flipped the bird to them so unceremoniously after.

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<v Speaker 4>Years of service.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had been making a lot of talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Jill Biden on election Day wore a brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>red suit, which everyone knows stands for Republicans for the win,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on election Day, and she did this loud and proud.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been any secret that these guys do despise

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala and have actually warmed to Trump in recent days.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't believe how happy Joe Biden looked in

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<v Speaker 3>that photo.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen him look.

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<v Speaker 3>That happy in at least four years, but he was

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<v Speaker 3>positively beaming in that photograph.

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<v Speaker 5>He looked so happy. I was honestly shocked. He didn't

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<v Speaker 5>start sniffing Trump's hair or nibbling on his shoulder.

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<v Speaker 4>He was chill, and he was leaning he wanted.

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<v Speaker 5>To get there, but they kept it very cordial, which,

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<v Speaker 5>to be honest, I mean, there definitely is an element

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<v Speaker 5>of self interest here. The Biden's got absolutely slammed by

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<v Speaker 5>the Democrats and completely shafted.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is nice to.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually see political leaders getting along and supposedly respecting one

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<v Speaker 5>another like that was refreshing.

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<v Speaker 2>That was refreshing.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other thing I thought was amazing was just

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<v Speaker 3>how comfortable Joe Biden looked welcoming a fascist who was

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<v Speaker 3>going to absolutely destroy democracy to the White House and saying, look,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll make this transition as peaceful and as easy as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know what you need so you'd hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Over so easily to add off Hitler. What an amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not official, but I have heard rumors of

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<v Speaker 3>some of the discussion. Apparently Joe Biden leaned over to

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and said, hey, listen, I want to make you

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<v Speaker 3>a deal when you get into office if you could

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<v Speaker 3>pardon my son Hunter, and I of course will have

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<v Speaker 3>all the charges dropped against you. And Trump liked the idea,

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<v Speaker 3>but said to Joe Biden, the problem is, in ten

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<v Speaker 3>minutes from now, you'll forget we had.

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<v Speaker 2>This talk, to which Joe Biden said, what talk all all.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's hey, ladies and gentlemen, do not spread that around.

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<v Speaker 1>But a very very funny idea there. The AI world

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<v Speaker 1>has gone absolutely mad after seeing this very friendly visit

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<v Speaker 1>between the incoming and the outgoing president. And if this

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<v Speaker 1>video that you're about to see doesn't convince you that

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<v Speaker 1>AI is completely out of control. This is the mashup

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<v Speaker 1>that the online trolls did up saying these two were

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<v Speaker 1>forced to be enemies but born to be friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out those beaming smiles. All the world that we

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<v Speaker 2>could live in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually very heartwarming to see, as he said, Ray,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole montage actually goes on for longer and longer,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're both.

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<v Speaker 4>Wearing medieval night armor.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it got absolutely ridiculous, but of course they were

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<v Speaker 1>just taking it to the nth degree. Staying in America now,

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<v Speaker 1>this has got to be We've been introducing you to

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's new appointees as they come to light and what

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<v Speaker 1>absolute legends they are, but none has shocked the establishment

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<v Speaker 1>more than the appointment of Matt Gates to the all

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<v Speaker 1>important position of Attorney General. This has absolutely sent shock

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<v Speaker 1>waves through Washington. This is their worst nightmare confirmed. And

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, this guy is an absolute firebrand.

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<v Speaker 1>For years and years prior to entering Congress, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a very tenacious attorney and that is simply the guy's disposition.

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<v Speaker 4>And when he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Cornered by the left, he doesn't back down. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of my all time favorite Matt Gates clips. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know him, just remember this one when he's

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<v Speaker 1>asked by a reporter, I'm you sorry for offending women?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it safe to see that based off of your comments,

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<v Speaker 3>you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are

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<v Speaker 3>ugly and overweet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what do you see to people who.

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<v Speaker 4>Think that those comments are offensive?

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<v Speaker 7>Be offended?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you may think that's hah, sure, okay, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we need to see in conservatives. We always

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<v Speaker 1>say every capitulation to the left emboldens them.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy just backs himself. Be offended.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going to happen, Beryl? Absolutely nothing? Did you mean

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<v Speaker 1>what you said? Yes, do not capitulate, Just back yourself in. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk has got a great friend in this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>because as Attorney General, he's all about cutting the fat

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<v Speaker 1>out of government departments. Elon Musk has famously said, we

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<v Speaker 1>currently have around four hundred and thirty government agencies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think ninety nine sounds like a great number. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's Matt Gates talking at SEE last year. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, but I think he's in furious agreement.

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<v Speaker 7>Seems like every time I turn around, they're engaged in

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<v Speaker 7>surveillance or list building or monitoring. And I don't care

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<v Speaker 7>if it takes every second of our time and every

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<v Speaker 7>ounce of our energy. We either get this government back

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<v Speaker 7>on our side, or we defund and get rid of,

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<v Speaker 7>abolish the FBI, CDC, ATFDJ, every last one of them.

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<v Speaker 7>If they do not come to heal.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get them all.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to see him in action on

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<v Speaker 1>the job, you actually may remember this clip that you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to see. This is when the government we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI to task on this atrocious cover up that

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<v Speaker 1>they undeniably did when it came to the Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 1>laptop scandal.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Matt Gets in action.

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<v Speaker 7>I have other questions. I'm sitting here with my father.

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<v Speaker 7>I will make certain that between the man sitting next

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<v Speaker 7>to me and every person he knows, and my ability

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<v Speaker 7>to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not

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<v Speaker 7>following my direction. I am sitting here waiting for the

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<v Speaker 7>call with my father. Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't a director.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get into company with that.

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<v Speaker 7>You you seem deeply uncurious about it, don't you? Almost

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<v Speaker 7>suspiciously uncurious? Are you protecting the bidens?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not the FBI.

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<v Speaker 7>Anti that's a shakedown, And everybody knows why you won't

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<v Speaker 7>answer it because to the millions of people who will

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<v Speaker 7>see this, they know it is. And your inability to

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<v Speaker 7>acknowledge that is deeply revealing about you. You preside over

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<v Speaker 7>the FBI that has the lowest level of trust in

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<v Speaker 7>the FBI's history. People trusted the FBI when Jaye Ercover

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<v Speaker 7>was running the place than when you are. And the

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<v Speaker 7>reason is because you don't get straight answers.

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<v Speaker 1>You That FBI director was a grease spot on the

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<v Speaker 1>carpet by the time Matt Gates had.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotten through with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this is a very controversial pick. If you're a lefty,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your worst nightmare come true. And there's all

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<v Speaker 1>these objections going online. People are having absolute meltdowns. And

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<v Speaker 1>I loved elon mouth Sweet today where he was replying

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<v Speaker 1>to the ball saying, the hammer of justice is coming,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what Gates is known for.

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<v Speaker 3>The Wall Street Journal they were particularly scathing about this pick.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, he's a nominee for those who want to

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<v Speaker 3>use the law for political revenge. What have you been

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<v Speaker 3>paying attention for the last four years? That's the reason

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has appointed this guy, because the DOJ had become

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<v Speaker 3>under the Biden administration so politicized. Trump is doing exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what he said he would do and exactly what the

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<v Speaker 3>American people voted for.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's appointing people in charge of intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to Tulsi Gabbard in a moment, in charge of

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<v Speaker 3>the military and in charge of the DOJ, who are

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<v Speaker 3>deeply suspicious of these institutions. But if you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>drain the swamp, then you can't have establishment people. You've

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<v Speaker 3>got to have outsiders who come in and are prepared

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<v Speaker 3>to get their hands dirty. And so you would expect

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<v Speaker 3>pushback from the media and from public servants and those involved. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think Americans they voted for change, they want

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<v Speaker 3>to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's going to do it exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think perhaps the mistake Trump made last time

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<v Speaker 5>was going for too many of these establishment types and

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<v Speaker 5>putting them in senior leadership positions. But if he wants

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<v Speaker 5>to make the radical change that America is crying out

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<v Speaker 5>for desperately, you need to take radical measures, and that

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<v Speaker 5>might actually include putting people into power who actually are

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<v Speaker 5>committed to the vision that Americans elected by an overwhelming

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<v Speaker 5>majority at all three levels the House, the Senate, and

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<v Speaker 5>the popular vote, and so Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>Voted for this, this is what they should get.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think there are a lot of lessons Australia

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<v Speaker 5>can actually learn from this in having rain in government bureaucracies,

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<v Speaker 5>because seriously, as you actually dig into the data, into

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<v Speaker 5>the budgets and you look at the kinds of things

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<v Speaker 5>even we here in Australia spend money on, it is

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<v Speaker 5>genuinely insane. There are a lot of bureaucrats benefiting off

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<v Speaker 5>the gravy train of taxpayer dollars. There are some great bureaucrats,

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<v Speaker 5>for sure, But I think Elon Musk is right when

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<v Speaker 5>he says you could probably cut a quarter of all

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<v Speaker 5>government spending, and no one with three quarters realize he's

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<v Speaker 5>talking cutting three quarters.

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<v Speaker 4>In matter fairness to.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump, It's true that a lot of his appointments first

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<v Speaker 1>time around.

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<v Speaker 4>Were pretty like Rah really made what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>But he was a stranger to Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even supposed to win.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the president comes in, he's supposed to have

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand staff lined up, bombs in seats, ready to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and so first time he kind of floundered. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is such a revenge appointment because remember it was Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Gates who was investigated for sex trafficking of all things,

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<v Speaker 1>just a few years ago by the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember what I told you the jokes in the name.

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<v Speaker 1>And now as part of his appointment, guess what comes

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<v Speaker 1>under him the Department of Justice. Trump's mandate reads, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>will root out the systemic eruption at the DOJ and

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<v Speaker 1>return the department to its true mission of fighting crime

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<v Speaker 1>and upholding our democracy and constitution. But speaking of revenge picks,

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<v Speaker 1>Tolci Gubbard has gone from being on a terror watch

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<v Speaker 1>list because keep track here, so Matt Gates being an

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<v Speaker 1>actual gun, they want to take him out, so they

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<v Speaker 1>come out with these ridiculous trafficking allegations. They put Tolci Gubbard,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a war vet. She's done several tools. She's

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible woman. Former Democrat or Hawaii, former Democrats. She's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the ones who said I'm leaving the Dems.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running for the Republicans. Now she is now Director

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<v Speaker 1>of National Intelligence. I love these revenge picks because Trump

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<v Speaker 1>knows that these guys who have been prosecuted by the

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<v Speaker 1>very agencies that he needs to gut and transform completely,

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<v Speaker 1>people who have been hurt by them so unjustly. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect people for the job.

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<v Speaker 3>She also has the distinction not only of having been

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<v Speaker 3>on a terror watch list. Now she's in charge of

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<v Speaker 3>America's seventeen intelligence agencies, and she also is famous for

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<v Speaker 3>getting more votes in a Democratic primary than Kamala.

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<v Speaker 2>Harris ever got. So there's that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think John Fetterman, the Democratic Senator, he summed

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<v Speaker 3>it up best, and he's probably the smartest of all

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats these days. He knows exactly what Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it's I would describe it as guard to

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<v Speaker 8>your level trolley to trigger a full line China syndrome,

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<v Speaker 8>to own the lives and perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon there is a little bit of trolling in

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's pigs. But it's not just trolling. He's serious about

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<v Speaker 3>really changing the culture of the bureaucracy there in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's come back home where.

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<v Speaker 3>Politics sadly is not much better if only we had

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<v Speaker 3>a Trump, like you said, Freyer.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know the housing crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>We all know why we have a housing crisis, right

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<v Speaker 3>massive immigration. We talked last night about incredible inefficiency when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to the bureaucracy. But now there's a third

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<v Speaker 3>key as to why we've got a housing crisis, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's because the people charged with fixing it have got

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely no idea at all. Have a listen to the

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales Housing Minister Rose Jackson who went on

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<v Speaker 3>radio for a just an easy interview on the ABC

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<v Speaker 3>and was asked about, sorry, what was it?

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<v Speaker 4>This one was with the Project SORR.

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<v Speaker 2>I was with the even easier. No, it was with

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>It was okay, my dad, my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Either way it would have been a cushy interview, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was asked, you know what's it cost people these

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<v Speaker 3>days to get a two bedroom unit in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a listen, what do.

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<v Speaker 6>You reckon is a reasonable price to pay in rent

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<v Speaker 6>for a two bedroom flat in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well, I mean it kind of depends where in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Sydney's a big city.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I mean a couple hundred bucks, right Like.

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<v Speaker 7>Where can you get a two bedroom flat for a

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<v Speaker 7>couple of hundred bucks well a.

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<v Speaker 9>Week, I don't know there are places in Sydney you can.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, you know, is like there's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Two bedroom flat and there's a two bedroom flat. Like

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<v Speaker 4>not all flats are the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>This is the thing about the housing market.

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<v Speaker 3>She sounds kind of like she's just having a coffee

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<v Speaker 3>with a mate. They're just kind of, you know, spitballing,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's forgotten she's on radio as the Housing Minister

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<v Speaker 3>a couple hundred bucks for a two bedroom flat in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>The median price to rent a two bedroom apartment in

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney is not a couple hundred bucks. It's seven hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty dollars. In the last four months of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five thousand two bedroom apartments in Sydney that were rented out, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three went for two hundred dollars or less. Twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three out of twenty five thousand. I suggest that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they should get the Housing Minister to look for Hen's teeth,

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<v Speaker 3>because she'd be able to find them anyway. She went

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<v Speaker 3>on social media to explain it was all a big mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't actually saying you can get apartments for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple hundred bucks. She was saying, you know, she wished

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<v Speaker 3>you could get apartments for a couple hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 9>Did I say that rent in Sydney is two hundred

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<v Speaker 9>dollars a week?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 9>I did a live radio interview in which I was

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<v Speaker 9>asked what's the reasonable rent someone should pay in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 9>not what are people in Sydney actually paying? What's actually

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<v Speaker 9>average rent? What would be a reasonable out to pay

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<v Speaker 9>in rent? And, in the course of a admittedly somewhat

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<v Speaker 9>garbled answer talking about different types of apartments and where

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<v Speaker 9>they're located in Sydney and all of that, I said

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<v Speaker 9>a couple one hundred bucks a week.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that that's.

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<v Speaker 9>Not what people are actually paying in rent in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 9>but that wasn't the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Frayer, I am not convinced, do you.

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<v Speaker 4>I am so unconvinced. It's not funny.

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<v Speaker 5>But to be honest, more than unconvinced, I'm actually offended

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<v Speaker 5>because of the tone that she uses. It's like, mate,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not making a TikTok. You're on national radio talking

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<v Speaker 5>about an issue that is actually really serious. I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>young person and I talk to my friends a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>We're kind of at that moving out stage. The average

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<v Speaker 5>age people are staying at home with their parents is

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<v Speaker 5>now something like twenty five years old, and that has

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<v Speaker 5>all sorts of flow and effects in people's lives. It

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<v Speaker 5>means they are not partnering up and getting married, they're

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<v Speaker 5>not having kids early because they simply cannot afford to

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<v Speaker 5>house themselves, let alone buy a property. And if they

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<v Speaker 5>do want to buy, they have to move back home

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<v Speaker 5>because rent is so expensive. And so I just think

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<v Speaker 5>the whole way she is approaching this discussion with the

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<v Speaker 5>hoodie and the TikTok response to the interview where you

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<v Speaker 5>know it was so unfair that they asked.

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<v Speaker 4>You that question.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, Uh, you're the housing minister who's supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>be solving a really critical problem for a lot of Australians.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not just going to kind of make.

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<v Speaker 5>Us forget by just checking on a TikTok and using

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<v Speaker 5>some pink font The.

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<v Speaker 3>Other thing I wondered Liz is she says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the reasonable price for a couple hundred bucks, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you reckon landlords would think of the housing saying a

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<v Speaker 3>couple hundred bucks that would be a reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to charge.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the point that I was going to make,

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<v Speaker 1>because even if that's what you meant, two hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 1>a week for a two better is completely unreasonable.

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<v Speaker 4>That is way too low.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if we did live in utopia, no reasonable person

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, well, I'm only paying two hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most populated city in our nation, it

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<v Speaker 1>is the most expensive city in our nation.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Place to live, but gosh, do you have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for the privilege two hundred bucks for a too better?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even if we were doing incredibly well, that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be reasonable for landlords and never going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Drop that low exactly. And the other thing is, whose

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<v Speaker 4>mortgage is two hundred bucks? Whose mortgage?

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<v Speaker 5>The average mortgage has gone up by thirty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>in the last year because we've had something like twelve

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<v Speaker 5>intestate rises, no sign of relief anytime soon, and so

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<v Speaker 5>you cannot expect landlords to bear the brunt of this

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<v Speaker 5>cost of living and inflation crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to pass it on.

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<v Speaker 5>The majority of landlords are mom and dad investors with

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<v Speaker 5>one investment property. They themselves are struggling with unaffordable housing.

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<v Speaker 5>And so to say yeah, yeah, no, they should just

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<v Speaker 5>only be charging two hundred bucks a week, that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>Are to nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>And this couldn't come at a worse time for the

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<v Speaker 1>Housing Minister or the men's.

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<v Speaker 4>Government, by the way, because I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yesterday we were talking about the facts that despite

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<v Speaker 1>being in power for eighteen months now and for saying

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<v Speaker 1>till they were blue in the face, oh housing, housing

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<v Speaker 1>crisis is our number one priority. Took them eighteen months

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<v Speaker 1>to ask the relevant department for a flow chart of approvals.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you get a building?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get a house up off the ground?

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<v Speaker 1>And this government, the New South Wales government.

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<v Speaker 4>Realized where the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out this flow chart that took them three months

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<v Speaker 1>to put together. So firstly, you're the government and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know your own process, the process in your own

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<v Speaker 1>state to build a home. You've just realized it's a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to reform it, okay. And then the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>your housing minister goes on radio and tells everyone she

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<v Speaker 1>reckons a too bat costs two hundred bucks a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the housing crisis is far worse

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<v Speaker 1>than any of these guys are remotely aware of.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to say the most disturbing part of that

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<v Speaker 3>discussion was nothing to do with housing prices. But when

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<v Speaker 3>you said most young people are staying at home till

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<v Speaker 3>they're twenty five, I've got twin nineteen year olds. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking another six years. Dear lord, that's just depressed me now.

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<v Speaker 3>But speaking of depressing, you know, look at every area

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment in our nation and the government are

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<v Speaker 3>just failing miserably, whether it's immigration, housing, detainees, energy, the

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<v Speaker 3>cost of living. They just are getting everything wrong. So

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<v Speaker 3>why when you've got a government that can't manage anything,

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<v Speaker 3>would you trust them to decide what you can and

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<v Speaker 3>can't say on social media or read on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you should thought they should have that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of power, Would you trust this government to get anything right?

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<v Speaker 3>The Communications Minister, Michelle Roland went on radio with Ben

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<v Speaker 3>f Fordham to talk about the Misinformation Bill, which they're

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<v Speaker 3>hoping to get through Parliament in the next week, and

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<v Speaker 3>ben Fordham quickly found out that the Communications Minister is

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<v Speaker 3>completely at odds with her own Safety Commissioner about exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what this Miscommunication Bill will look like and the consequences

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<v Speaker 3>it will have for Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a listen at how mixed up she is.

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<v Speaker 11>We'd like to discuss the misinformation laws. I know that Australians,

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<v Speaker 11>including myself, are concerned about the Misinformation Bill that Labor

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<v Speaker 11>is introduced to Parliament. Is the point of this bill

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<v Speaker 11>to minimize the amount of content that Australians can see online?

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all? Then?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay. Some are saying that this acts as a recalibration

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<v Speaker 11>for a whole range of human rights playing out online,

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<v Speaker 11>including freedom of speech. Do you agree?

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<v Speaker 10>I don't, The.

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<v Speaker 11>Minister, You've got a bit of an issue because I've

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<v Speaker 11>just put two statements to you that you have disagreed with.

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<v Speaker 11>Both statements come from your e Safety Commissioner, julianman Grant.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, this government cannot get anything right. If they're serious

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<v Speaker 3>about this piece of legislation, and they know how contentious

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 3>it is, you would think they would have this absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>nailed down. They are making it up as they go

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<v Speaker 3>and of all the things to make up as you go,

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<v Speaker 3>censoring citizens and they can't even get that right. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking as if it were a legitimate thing. We obviously

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<v Speaker 3>know it's not. My point is you just can't trust

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<v Speaker 3>this government with anything at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you trust them with speech?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't think anybody does.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get to speak to any Australian who is in

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<v Speaker 1>the bureaucracy who is a fan of this bill whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to be censored, whether they're on the

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<v Speaker 1>right or the left. Even the left isn't championing this.

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<v Speaker 1>The alb and Easy government is, the Online Ey Safety

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner is. But other than the people who want to

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<v Speaker 1>get the bill up, nobody is a fan of this.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that they still have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing when there's only two sitting weeks left, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>What you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're just going to ram this through both houses.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it's currently with the Senate. And remember this

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<v Speaker 1>is playing out in tandem with this other bill that's

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with censoring anyone under sixteen years of age. They

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<v Speaker 1>just won't be allowed to use these social media platforms now,

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<v Speaker 1>we have been told ad nauseum, this is about keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the youth safe. I maintain you've known that social media

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<v Speaker 1>and youth are a bad mix for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>the two have both existed at the same time. There's

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<v Speaker 1>mountains of research on it. But they got really concerned

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, just two weeks after they passed

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<v Speaker 1>their Digital ID bill. Now we already know due to

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<v Speaker 1>the brilliant work of David Shuebridge. Yes I just called

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<v Speaker 1>greens work brilliant. Even a broken clock is right twice

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<v Speaker 1>a day, yes, twice a day. Well, he took them

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<v Speaker 1>to task on this. We got their own admission that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this would mean absolutely checking everyone's ID online. The only

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<v Speaker 1>way to do that is, of course, with the digital ID.

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<v Speaker 1>Well ben Fordham ask Communications Minister Michelle Roland about this

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<v Speaker 1>bill and if you're making sure that these people under

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years of age can't use Instagram, can't use Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>and the like, why aren't you censoring them on Snapchat

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<v Speaker 1>as well, which is one of the most popular platforms

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<v Speaker 1>in that age bracket.

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<v Speaker 11>You say messaging and gaming services will not be in

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<v Speaker 11>scope of this definition, So where does Snapchat fall?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, Snapchat under the online Safety Act, depending on how

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<v Speaker 10>it's defined. Coult for within that definition. But we will

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<v Speaker 10>go through in a methodical way through having these criteria

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<v Speaker 10>and the East Safety Commissioner applying what will be a

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<v Speaker 10>very transparent process.

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<v Speaker 11>If you're banning Instagram, Facebook and TikTok and Twitter, you've

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<v Speaker 11>got a band snapchat right, well, that is an argument.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 10>That has been put. We are very prepared to go

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<v Speaker 10>through having a process of criteria and seeing how this

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 10>fits against it. Also, as your listeners, I think we'll

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 10>understand some of these platforms do present themselves in different ways.

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<v Speaker 10>They will argue, for example, that they are messaging services

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<v Speaker 10>and not social media services, but we need to assess

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<v Speaker 10>that objectively against a transparent set of criteria.

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<v Speaker 1>So the bill is before Parliament now and you're still saying, oh,

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>we need to assess that. Are you unaware you've only

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>got two setting weeks left in the year. That interview

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>by Fordham was just brilliant from start to finish.

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<v Speaker 4>He ran rings around that woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Simply proving this government has no idea what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about the most dystopian bills I think

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<v Speaker 1>that have ever entered the Australian Parliament.

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<v Speaker 5>It's pretty scary to think where this is all going,

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<v Speaker 5>and it reminds me of something else that's going on

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<v Speaker 5>in the realm of free speech, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That is over in the UK.

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<v Speaker 5>A columnist for the Daily Telegraph, Lovely Alison, had a

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<v Speaker 5>unfriendly knock on her door on Remembrance Dage just this

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<v Speaker 5>last Sunday. Police showed up her to her house and

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<v Speaker 5>said they were investigating some sort of non crime hate speech.

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 5>When she asked, well, what is this non crime hate speech,

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<v Speaker 5>they wouldn't tell her. When she asked who was making

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<v Speaker 5>the complaint, they also wouldn't tell her that either. It

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 5>is rather dystopian. What kind of a world are we

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<v Speaker 5>entering into. When the Essex Police only solved twelve percent

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<v Speaker 5>of a violent assault against the person, yet they're spending

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<v Speaker 5>all their time going around and policing people's tweets from

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<v Speaker 5>over a year ago. It does seem rather disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I mean, at best, this is an example of

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 3>misplaced priorities. They're investigating ancient tweets, as you said, from

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<v Speaker 3>a year ago that they told her has since been deleted,

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<v Speaker 3>though they wouldn't tell her exactly which tweet it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Than that it's from an anonymous complaint. She wasn't allowed

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 3>to know who made the complaint. But the most disturbing

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 3>part is just massive overreach where instead of investigating actual

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 3>crimes that are affecting people right now, they're trawling back

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 3>through social media at the behest of anonymous complainants and

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 3>knocking on people's doors at nine point thirty a m.

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<v Speaker 3>In the morning asking would you like to come for

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<v Speaker 3>an interview. We can't tell you what it's about. We

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<v Speaker 3>can't tell you who made the complaint. Who's going to

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<v Speaker 3>agree to go along to the police station. Under those

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of circumstances, how can.

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<v Speaker 1>You build a defense when you don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 1>referring to? You know, it's a nonviolent hate crime, so

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<v Speaker 1>why am I even in this position? Obviously that rules

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<v Speaker 1>out incitement if it's nonviolent. The sheer nonsense of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and now she can't do anything to build a defense

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what the charge actually is.

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<v Speaker 5>If they're not solving the violent crime, why are they

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<v Speaker 5>wasting their time with the non violent hate speech?

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, where are their priorities?

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<v Speaker 3>And again it just shows you it's not just Americans

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 3>who are saying thank God for Donald Trump. People all

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>over the Western world are saying thank God for Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hope it reverberates to Western countries right around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, we'll look at what's making news

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<v Speaker 3>in the papers tomorrow, including the cost of renewables is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a lot more than the Albanezer government

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<v Speaker 3>have let on.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that in just a moment. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm sure you've figured out already that renewables are

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 3>going to cost us a lot more than we've been told.

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<v Speaker 3>But Liz, it's even worse than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Color me shop to the front page of the Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Telly Labor accused of hiding real cost of renewables only

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>grid by five.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 4>Hundred billion dollars.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>The real cost of building a renewables only power grid

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>is more than half a trillion dollars higher than the

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<v Speaker 1>alban Easy government has claimed.

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Bombshell new research reveals.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the modeling, replacing a predominantly coal fired power

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 1>system with mainly solar and wind will set Australia back

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>at least six hundred and forty two billion dollars, not

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the one hundred and twenty two billion dollars, Labor has claimed.

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, are any of us surprised? Are any of

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>us surprised whatsoever? Thank goodness for the people doing this research.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the vast majority, especially of you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we already knew this.

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we did.

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 3>And of course then they're making this argument against nuclear

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 3>it's too expensive and talk about hypocritical. They can't even

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 3>get the numbers right on their own renewables project. Or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's more sinister than that, because the Opposition Energy

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 3>spokesperson Tet O'Brien is saying, no, no, it's not that they've

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<v Speaker 3>got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that they're deliberately hiding the cost.

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<v Speaker 3>From Australia in because if we knew just how much

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 3>it would cost, no one would agree to this madness prayer.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>And look the problem with renewables is you have to

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<v Speaker 5>build all the transmission lines and extra infrastructure to make

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 5>it usable. We're talking about building around twenty seven thousand

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 5>kilometers of new transmission lines. That doesn't come cheap. This

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 5>is going to cost a mutza, but at least be

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<v Speaker 5>honest about it.

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Let's go to the Herald Sunlink. You've got there,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes on there, fray So.

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<v Speaker 5>In Melbourne, pro Palestinian activists have been slammed after forcing

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<v Speaker 5>Maya to cancel the opening event for its iconic Christmas

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 5>windows display, ignoring pleas from police to respect the holiday ritual.

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.479
<v Speaker 5>The so called disrupt Wars group will converge on Burk

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 5>Street Wall on Sunday, with Victoria Police saying the force

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 5>would have a visible presence as a result. Jewish leaders

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 5>have described the plan as hateful, while the Victorian Chamber

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 5>of Commerce and Industry has called for urgent action to

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 5>the ugly protest ruining the city. This is what I

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 5>have always said, Anti Semitism is not just a Jewish problem.

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 5>It is an Australian problem because this sort of hatred

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<v Speaker 5>will spread and will impact the lives of all Australians. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's any coincidence that Maya was founded

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 5>by a Russian Jew, Sidney Meyer, and now they are

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<v Speaker 5>choosing this to be the target of their hateful demonstration.

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 5>It is absolutely despicable.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've got an example of the poster that's

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 3>been used to promote this protest, and bear in mind

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 3>police have begged the protesters, Please don't do this.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 2>It's Christmas. Let people enjoy it.

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Every year there's about two point four million people who

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 3>visit the Maya window display. It's only the second time

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 3>in seventy years that they have canceled the opening. The

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>other occasion was in twenty twenty because of COVID and

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 3>a pro Palestinian organizer said, and I quote, children in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia shouldn't have more rights to enjoy Christmas than the

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:12.439
<v Speaker 3>children in Palestine. Talk about warped thinking if that's the attitude,

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>But there you have it. Maya have decided to cancel it.

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 3>And I got to say I was really online people

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>getting stuck into.

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<v Speaker 2>Maya saying, oh your cowards.

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>But Maya, what choice do they have when you've got

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 3>huge numbers of people going to turn up and protest,

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 3>You're going to have families kids there. I don't think

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Maya have got much choice. It's still on my it's

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 3>on the Victorian police. And I mean, I don't want

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 3>to say this ad nauseum because we've been saying it

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>for the last twelve months.

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 2>But this has been allowed to get to this.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Stage because authorities in Victoria, in New South Wales failed

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 3>to knit this stuff in the bud in October last year.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Here we are.

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:54.399
<v Speaker 1>And what's harrowing about this is the article says that

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>these these protesters, the so called disrupt Wars group, have

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>ignored please from police to respect the holiday ritual. Our

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>police are pleading with these guys. You don't negotiate with Jarris.

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>This is like we all saw on the steps of

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the Opera house being like, well, where's the stormtroopers, man

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Premier Inns. If you're ever gonna use them, get them

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>out here and now fail that test. And now these

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>guys are basically waging a war on a widely celebrated

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Western holiday, and our police, our law enforces, are pleading

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>with them, please don't do it, and they're just like, nah,

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff is, We're going.

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 4>To do it. I'm sorry, how does this work again?

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought we had laws in New South Wales where

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<v Speaker 1>you had to get.

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 2>A permit to.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 4>Do something like this.

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Obviously they don't have a permit, therefore it's an unlawful protest.

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>So what's going on here that they're like, oh, okay,

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>we pleaded with you, you said no over for a

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>free past, then okay, maya cancel it. Yeah, we're just

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>going to have to bli down and take it.

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 4>From these guys.

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 5>There must be something going on in Victoria, because also

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 5>in Victoria is another example of gross government incompetence. The

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Education Minister Ben Carroll is facing serious questions about his

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 5>handling of the VCE exam blunder, as he was forced

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 5>to concede that he knew about the debacle a month

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 5>ago but only received a high level briefing on Wednesday night. Now,

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 5>the Victorian Opposition leader has called on the State Ombudsman

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 5>Marlow Barrowanath to investigate this significant error, which has enabled

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 5>thousands of students to access cheat sheets. Now, this is

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 5>not the first time the VCE has come under fire

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 5>for gross miscompetence. In last year, thousands of students were

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 5>awarded a bonus point because there was an error in

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 5>the math exam. It was so bad that a group

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 5>of Monash University professors got together and said all five

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 5>questions in the zam displayed gross misunderstandings of basic mathematical concepts.

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 4>There seems to be something with labor and numbers here.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.399
<v Speaker 1>At least they consistent ten.

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 3>You've got thousands of students doing their year twelve exams

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 3>and for the Education Minister to have known about this

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 3>for a month and he's only just received a proper

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 3>briefing in the last twenty four to forty.

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Eight hours is just another example. I don't know what

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>government ministers do. Chairman's lounge.

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Probably Let's go to the front page of the Townshaw

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 3>bulletin mild stomping ground.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 2>We want a breakup, reads the headline.

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Shock Polling says that the North wants to split with

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 3>the south of the state.

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Now this is not a new concept.

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 3>This has been bandied around by numerous politicians and business

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 3>leaders for a long time, but new polling has found

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 3>not only do Northerners support breaking away from the rest

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 3>of the state, but that Townsville is the preferred home

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 3>of a hypothetic North Queensland States capital. Matt Canavan is

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 3>one of the politicians who's been pushing for this. He

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 3>pointed out that twenty five percent of the economic output

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 3>in Queensland per person comes from North Queensland compared to

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 3>South Queensland. And of course at the election we had

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Stephen Miles promising fifty cent bus fares if you lived

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 3>in the south of Queensland.

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 2>And Olympic Games.

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>If you lived in the South of Queensland and yet

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 3>so much of the economic activity is coming from the north,

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 3>I well understand having lived in North Queensland, why people

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 3>there feel completely forgotten and wouldn't mind their own state

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 3>with who knows Bob katter as the Premier of North

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 3>queens and.

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Their streets would be paved with gold.

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>It would be like this dystopian wasteland in the south

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>if they actually did, just be like, we're breaking away

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and we're keeping everything.

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, we're going to go to a break when we

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 2>come back.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 3>One of those stories that could only happen in Australia

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 3>a family come home to find an animal, not their something.

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Else in the bed with their pet. Actually it's coming

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>up in a.

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Even noticed how so many sports people are just brilliant athletes.

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean they could turn their hand to any sport

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 3>and be successful. Take Steph Curry from the Golden State Warriors,

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 3>for instance, brilliant basketball player, but I'll tell you what,

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:20.799
<v Speaker 3>he can hit a golf ball as well.

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Check out this shot.

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 10>Is he can really play.

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Boy?

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 12>It's just right at it if it gets there?

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me?

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable basketballer, unbelievable golfer. So you can imagine that people

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 3>thought that Caitlin Clark from the Women's NBA would also

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 3>be great on the golf course, and so when she

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 3>played a exhibition game, they crowded around as she made

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 3>her tea shot.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And here's what happened, Jesus ChRI.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 3>That is an absolute shank and had people diving for

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 3>cab check that out. They regretted standing so close Steph Curry,

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 3>much better golfer.

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Caitlin Clark should stick to basketball.

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 5>Stick to what you're good at, I say, but good

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 5>on her for giving it a go. I mean, I'm

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 5>not sure I would have been much better, but look

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm not a professional athlete, so that's okay.

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 5>Another story that we saw this week, which was so

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 5>funny and only in Australia, folks, only in Australia. An

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 5>Adelaide couple walked into their bedroom and saw something quite remarkable.

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 5>A koala was asleep in their bed with their dog

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 5>just meters away.

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 4>Check this out.

0:47:51.719 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 12>Oh my god, Oh my god, what what what do

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 12>I do?

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 5>Win?

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 2>What do I do?

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Has been?

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 12>Oh my god?

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 2>What do I do?

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 5>So many questions, how did it get there? Why was

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 5>it just hanging out? What is going on? I mean,

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 5>that is unbelievable.

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.240
<v Speaker 1>And if that couple thought they had anything of a guard.

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 4>Dog in their pant dog, that would just.

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Be like mate.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, at one point they were in bed together. This

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 1>couple walked through the door and the koala is just

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>looking up like welcome home. I guess hi, guys.

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 3>They should be thinking they're lucky stars. I would much

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 3>rather find a koala in my bed than a snake.

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 3>That's all we've got time for tonight stick Around. Coming

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 3>up is the Rida Pedi Sho