Speaker 1: Lawrence, tell me what's you know.
Speaker 2: Every week we like to have a different division at
Speaker 2: the Victorian Police in to have a chat. This week
Speaker 2: we are catching up with the team from RBT, like
Speaker 2: four schooners of.
Speaker 3: Great Northern Okay, he got a heavy beer or beer
Speaker 3: and I'll be so you can breath test me.
Speaker 2: I'm very confident, very good.
Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly what we're doing today.
Speaker 5: Mine's got a breath and we've tested.
Speaker 3: Ourselves that particular drink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly drink. He's got a breath test. That voice
Speaker 2: right there, was seeing you, Constable Stevie Jorgensen who joined
Speaker 2: us now, good morning morning.
Speaker 4: It's nice to be here.
Speaker 3: So you're on the show too. I am their real art.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think are they proper police men and women?
Speaker 4: We are real?
Speaker 2: No, it's only strippers that area.
Speaker 3: I'd be happy if one of them pulled me.
Speaker 2: Stevie, welcome to the show. How how long you've been
Speaker 2: part of the cops.
Speaker 6: I have been a please officer for ten years and
Speaker 6: doing this particular role for six.
Speaker 3: Do you get to pick?
Speaker 5: Can you say I love doing the RBT and the
Speaker 5: Booze bus I want to do that or do you
Speaker 5: just get moved around to different departments.
Speaker 6: So no, I've been with what's called ARPIDAS. We call
Speaker 6: it row Policing Drug an alcohol section, and I've been
Speaker 6: there on my own accord for six years.
Speaker 4: I could leave if I wanted to, but I love
Speaker 4: it there.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: In terms of filming, we get asked if we want
Speaker 4: to do it or not.
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's any select few of us that actually
Speaker 6: are prepared to put our faces on TV. So I'm
Speaker 6: one of them now.
Speaker 3: Question. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
Speaker 5: But when I get go through a breath o booze bus,
Speaker 5: I panic every time, even when I haven't had a drink,
Speaker 5: and I think, oh my gosh, they're going to think
Speaker 5: I'm drunk or I'm doing something wrong because I'm so nervous.
Speaker 3: I ran over the cone. No, is that normal?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you are not alone. That is very very common,
Speaker 4: like very common.
Speaker 5: Before they're like, oh, you know you're going to show
Speaker 5: drivers and whatever, and I'm shaking and I'm like, I
Speaker 5: look eating myself.
Speaker 4: Well, look on our buses.
Speaker 6: A normal shift, we would be testing up to one
Speaker 6: thousand and forty people. So in amongst that, I would
Speaker 6: say at least fifty percent of people, okay, would be
Speaker 6: scared coming past or coming into a booze bus.
Speaker 5: I think I'd be more confident if Finn had a
Speaker 5: few drinks to marriage.
Speaker 2: Not joking the audio we heard there Gary, he ended
Speaker 2: up blowing under on the show. When it comes to
Speaker 2: random breath testing, do you because we're now rolling out
Speaker 2: random drug testing as well?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: Are you doing both at every site? No drug testing
Speaker 2: takes longer, doesn't it.
Speaker 6: We Yes, So we have booz busses and we have
Speaker 6: drug buses. When we do a booze bus, we do
Speaker 6: have the facilities to do a drug test if we
Speaker 6: feel the need.
Speaker 3: So it's if you're if you've got saying, let's do this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And if we ever have somebody on our bus
Speaker 6: for a breath test, we'll also do a drug test
Speaker 6: while we're there.
Speaker 3: If they've been taken out of the car and enter the.
Speaker 2: Bus, so you get out. If they're taking me out
Speaker 2: of the car, you're cooked.
Speaker 3: You are getting opay breath and if you're doing nothing wrong,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 6: That's right of course, yes, And then we have the
Speaker 6: drug busses where every single driver that comes into our
Speaker 6: site will get a breath test and a drug test.
Speaker 3: Right, and then hohy do we drug test everyone?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Is it a cost?
Speaker 4: Just look?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we don't have I mean it's high volume testing.
Speaker 6: When we do booze buses. As I said before, we're
Speaker 6: going to be testing anywhere up to fourteen hundred drivers
Speaker 6: a drug test. When we have a drug bus, we're
Speaker 6: with each driver for about five minutes, so we would
Speaker 6: never get the amount of people tested if we were
Speaker 6: doing every single person. And then obviously it's a huge
Speaker 6: cost to be able to drug test every single.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, people would be cracking it like five minutes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sixty seconds and they don't like us doing that.
Speaker 3: Honest question. Are our roads safe? Is it?
Speaker 5: Are we policing enough that we're making our roads? How
Speaker 5: many people are drink driving and drug driving?
Speaker 6: I wish I could say that our roads are super safe,
Speaker 6: but from the job that I do, yeah, we see
Speaker 6: so many people that are under the influence of alcohol
Speaker 6: and drugs.
Speaker 4: Just last week I did a site where we got.
Speaker 6: Someone at around eleven o'clock in the morning and they
Speaker 6: were point to nine. So that's the whole time, the
Speaker 6: legal limit at eleven o'clock in the morning on a
Speaker 6: school day.
Speaker 3: Had they been out all night and all day or he.
Speaker 6: Was actually in complete denial about it. But yeah, obviously
Speaker 6: too much into it.
Speaker 5: But they're an.
Speaker 4: Alcohol in the car. There was and this person, you know,
Speaker 4: had a pretty strong history of drink driving.
Speaker 2: You know what I find sad because I see the
Speaker 2: boost bus a lot on South Road down near our
Speaker 2: Sandy and the cops are set up there and they're
Speaker 2: getting them after school pickup and school drop off, and
Speaker 2: that's that's the time of targeting. Does it does it
Speaker 2: shock you? How many? Does it make you angry?
Speaker 4: That site?
Speaker 6: I would say that would probably be the where we
Speaker 6: get the most hate and complaints about setting up in
Speaker 6: that area. And we're affecting drivers, you know, we've added
Speaker 6: in traffic, We're affecting traffic with minutes to their drive.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I've been on that road and you guys fly
Speaker 2: through it pretty quick. I've done the boostbus there several
Speaker 2: times that you don't hold them up. They don't.
Speaker 6: But I think people just like to complain about it.
Speaker 6: But everyone we're always getting and do.
Speaker 2: You get many doing the school run? It's good.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: I've personally I have tried to breakfast on quite a
Speaker 6: lot of people during school time, and yeah, it's I
Speaker 6: mean it's but it's standard procedure, like you go, you
Speaker 6: have a glass of wine. Yeah, it makes me really angry. Look,
Speaker 6: I'm personally really passionate about road policing. Akit affected drivers
Speaker 6: off the road, so I get, yeah, it's, well, thank you.
Speaker 5: For that, because you're keeping our roads safe. It is
Speaker 5: actually scary hearing that kind of stuff. But a lot
Speaker 5: of people now are taking their responsibility in their own hands.
Speaker 5: You try to write, I don't really even like having
Speaker 5: one glass of wine and driving because I get scared
Speaker 5: that I'm over be I just.
Speaker 2: The confusion is because remember if years ago, and I
Speaker 2: remember when we were growing up, there was that big
Speaker 2: campaign where its like one hour after that and everyone
Speaker 2: started sticking to that rule. But that's like, you know,
Speaker 2: one standard beer is more than a standard drink, and
Speaker 2: also to food size of the person, size.
Speaker 5: Of how you compared to the size of porm my fiance,
Speaker 5: like we couldn't drink the same amount.
Speaker 2: And I've noticed we're not doing those campaigns anymore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's it's way too confusing for people,
Speaker 6: and what works for one person is not going to
Speaker 6: work for the next as you said, size, So there's
Speaker 6: no guid, food, water, There's so many different things that
Speaker 6: come into play as to how your body will metabolize alcohol.
Speaker 5: So it's too risky do the self breathalyzers work, because
Speaker 5: I know people that like will have two glasses of
Speaker 5: wine and then they'll always.
Speaker 3: Check before they drive.
Speaker 5: But if if you blew point oh four on that
Speaker 5: and then you went to a boost bus and you
Speaker 5: blue point.
Speaker 4: No defense the look.
Speaker 6: I think the problem with the personally owned breath breathalyzers
Speaker 6: is that some are really cheap and then some are
Speaker 6: really expensive. But the difference with those ones and ours
Speaker 6: is that ours are regularly serviced and calibrated.
Speaker 4: You're going to give you that accurate results. And we
Speaker 4: have a two step process.
Speaker 6: So we've obviously got the initial test that you do
Speaker 6: at the booze bus or if you're be decepted, and
Speaker 6: then we have an evidentiary breath test as.
Speaker 3: Well in us like in the bus.
Speaker 2: I actually remember the machines just to have on the
Speaker 2: side of the wall in pubs and you get a
Speaker 2: straw blowing it right, and like I would love for
Speaker 2: them to roll out actual professional ones and service them.
Speaker 3: And call them in everything.
Speaker 2: Every pub across Victoria.
Speaker 3: You'd be grateful for it one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent because even if I had two great northerns right
Speaker 2: like low strength beer, I would definitely still check, even
Speaker 2: though I know I'm pretty safe, definitely still check. And
Speaker 2: if I was over, I wouldn't drive. Yeah, Like, I
Speaker 2: know it's a cost, but think about the lives.
Speaker 6: Of the problem with that is that with alcohol consumption,
Speaker 6: you could still it has like a peak before it starts,
Speaker 6: So you could do that test at the pub and
Speaker 6: it might be then you get held up because you
Speaker 6: see a mate that you weren't drinking with and you're like, oh,
Speaker 6: hanging back for another fifteen minutes. Then you go to
Speaker 6: drive and your alcohol in that space of time has
Speaker 6: actually peaked and gone higher. So you're thinking that result is, oh,
Speaker 6: I'm fine, I'm oh four oh, but then you get
Speaker 6: pulled over twenty minutes later by us and then you're
Speaker 6: five oh and five oh on the dot is an offense.
Speaker 3: Like you're you've got to be under point five.
Speaker 6: For night point oh four night thanks STV.
Speaker 2: I thought I was.
Speaker 5: It is because you know what and what I would
Speaker 5: say the people who would do that test at the pub.
Speaker 5: They're trying to do the right thing, you know, and
Speaker 5: the people who get point oh five, Sure it's wrong,
Speaker 5: but you feel for them because you're like, oh, but
Speaker 5: you know it's it's the people who are way over that.
Speaker 3: Aren't sitting at the pub just trying to do the
Speaker 3: right thing.
Speaker 2: Hey, we've got to go to a break. Are you
Speaker 2: happy to stay with us?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: When we come back. I want to ask a question about, like,
Speaker 2: you know, let's let's not put our head in the sand.
Speaker 2: People are smoking, people are doing part other drugs around
Speaker 2: the place. I want to talk about how long that
Speaker 2: could potentially stay in your system. And also we're going
Speaker 2: to test out in the old breath Now machine this
Speaker 2: morning because we got one of our producers, Giz, to
Speaker 2: have a few wine last night with dinner, as he
Speaker 2: got him maneuverer in this morning, and we want to
Speaker 2: see how he thinks he's feeling and how it comes
Speaker 2: up on the breath oak.
Speaker 3: And next day is a worrying.
Speaker 2: You know what, Let's break out that tongue scraper while.
Speaker 4: Four straws so we can we don't just have to
Speaker 4: test him. We can test we are out of time.
Speaker 2: At the moment, we are proving the Poe post and
Speaker 2: you Constable Stevie Jorgenson is joining us this morning. She
Speaker 2: is a booze bus operetta.
Speaker 3: And you're on the show. Ye do you ever get
Speaker 3: recognized a little bit?
Speaker 6: Not so much like out in public, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like when I'm on the show, like my phone
Speaker 4: just goes nuts.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: And people from school that I haven't spoken to you
Speaker 6: about twenty years.
Speaker 2: Why does Darryl, when he gets done on the show
Speaker 2: for blowing over and with meth in his system, allows
Speaker 2: himself to be on TV?
Speaker 4: This is a good question, so you'll get a mix
Speaker 4: of people.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: So some people will well, either they're drunk or they're
Speaker 6: on drugs, the.
Speaker 4: Right decision.
Speaker 6: Two, they genuinely want to get on television and it
Speaker 6: doesn't matter what it's for their hangry to just get
Speaker 6: their face on their Why.
Speaker 3: We don't get there?
Speaker 5: Someone told me they get their fines and court cases paid.
Speaker 6: No, no, nothing, no benefits whatsoever. For an example, I
Speaker 6: had a young pea player who only had his license
Speaker 6: for a few months. This one hasn't been shown yet.
Speaker 6: I won't go with too much into detail, but he
Speaker 6: thought it was going to help him with the ladies.
Speaker 6: He was like, cool, this is going to get me
Speaker 6: out share and the girls are going to see me
Speaker 6: and it's gonna And was he drink driving people?
Speaker 4: Drink driving? Yeah, lost his license.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's really going to work for the ladies
Speaker 5: when you've got to put them on the greyhound bus
Speaker 5: for a day.
Speaker 6: And then you just get like the genuine people that
Speaker 6: can see how their story might help somebody else, someone else,
Speaker 6: which they're the good ones because we know, you know,
Speaker 6: you're showing people that they are they're not one hundred
Speaker 6: percent safety drinks.
Speaker 3: Are pretty nice on it, like.
Speaker 2: You're Sometimes I get frustrated, but rightfully so, but you're
Speaker 2: pretty nice.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm like, oh, they're being so nice for this
Speaker 5: person who's just gone Yeah, there's a bit.
Speaker 6: Of a fine line between being too stern and them
Speaker 6: not wanting to cooperate and being nice enough that they
Speaker 6: do want to cooperate with this and come on the show.
Speaker 2: We're going to All the coppers we've met with this
Speaker 2: segment have been bloody lovely.
Speaker 3: We love having the VIC police in. We love it.
Speaker 2: Now, you guys don't have your head in the sands
Speaker 2: you know people out there are smoking doing drugs. You
Speaker 2: can do medicinal marijuana. These days, it's never publicized how
Speaker 2: long drugs can potentially stay in your system. And the
Speaker 2: reason I ask because I'm sure there'd be people going, well, look,
Speaker 2: you know what I hit bloody. You know I had
Speaker 2: a smoke last night. If I know it stays in
Speaker 2: my system for twenty four hours, I won't drive today.
Speaker 2: Is there just no definitive answer?
Speaker 4: There isn't.
Speaker 6: Every single person will metabolize drugs differently, and same with alcohol.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: We can't say that one person is going to smoke
Speaker 6: weed and then within an hour it's gone, and then
Speaker 6: somebody else it's you know, a week later, they've still
Speaker 6: got it there.
Speaker 2: So if people say, could drop a pill in a
Speaker 2: club on a Saturday night, I could say for someone
Speaker 2: it could be out of their system on Sunday. For
Speaker 2: other people could still be their Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Even if it's not affecting you anymore, it can still
Speaker 5: be in your system.
Speaker 6: That's right, And that's where I think people get confused
Speaker 6: with the whole offense of drink and drug driving. In
Speaker 6: terms of drug driving, you can be pulled over a
Speaker 6: few days after having meth or having a tablet on
Speaker 6: the weekend and it's still sharp. You're not really feeling
Speaker 6: the effects, but it's still in your oral fluid, so
Speaker 6: you still lose.
Speaker 4: Yourize them to Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Was bad enough, and then hey, we've got our producer
Speaker 2: Jeez in the studio morning.
Speaker 1: Jeez, I'm so sweaty, I'm so nervous.
Speaker 2: Now he was given the time he was.
Speaker 3: To have a lovely dinner last yek.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was given the task to have a couple
Speaker 2: of wines with dinner, just like a lot of people would.
Speaker 2: We got in maneuver in this morning, but we're very
Speaker 2: interested to see if it's still any system. Guys, I've
Speaker 2: got some sound effects. I thought we could have a
Speaker 2: dramatized right now quickly?
Speaker 3: What time did you you last drink?
Speaker 1: At nine pm?
Speaker 5: So we're eleven hours drink should be a last that
Speaker 5: should we do what we do on the show, like
Speaker 5: when we watch it, do you reckon?
Speaker 3: He'll be what do you reckon? He's going to blow?
Speaker 2: I like the voiceover, I reckon he's going to This
Speaker 2: young Irish lad thought he could have a few venos
Speaker 2: last night and put the leg over the missus isn't he.
Speaker 3: Let's see what you're comfortable has to say about. What
Speaker 3: did you drink?
Speaker 1: I drank three to four glasses of peano no wire
Speaker 1: shaded Zonzo state beautiful.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh hang on, guys, here we go. All right,
Speaker 2: window coming down.
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Constable, Good morning, driver.
Speaker 5: Morning.
Speaker 4: All right, So you've had a couple of drinks last night, you.
Speaker 1: Told me, Yeah, just with dinner. I'm definitely fine this morning.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been in work and I think I'm
Speaker 1: doing my best work this morning.
Speaker 4: Actually it's questionable, very confident.
Speaker 6: All right, let's do this test. One long breaking to
Speaker 6: the straw until it's tell you to stop.
Speaker 2: It is a long bread so long some people just
Speaker 2: can never get on at the TV's.
Speaker 3: Clear, acony' a reckon, he's under he's clear.
Speaker 1: What do you think I reckon? There's going to be
Speaker 1: alcohol in my system, but I don't think I'm going
Speaker 1: to be over the limit.
Speaker 2: Oh hang on, sorry, sorry, And we go to that
Speaker 2: break so annoying.
Speaker 3: Had come back to the end of the show.
Speaker 4: All right, No, we are all clear.
Speaker 1: Zero, let's go.
Speaker 5: I would have loved to have known, though, because this
Speaker 5: is where people getting big trouble get Like, we get
Speaker 5: up at what four point thirty in the morning and
Speaker 5: drive to work, and you've had six hours sleep and
Speaker 5: you think you're fine, that's that you'd come undone.
Speaker 3: Then I reckon. So, just so everyone knows, we put
Speaker 3: him in an ober this morning, just in case.
Speaker 1: Do you have a heavy dinner and I had a yes,
Speaker 1: standard dinner, I'd say not loads, not too he's still shredding. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not really shredding. But that's actually a question that
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask. Is soakage a thing like if
Speaker 1: you do have a lot of foods, does that make
Speaker 1: so caidge?
Speaker 3: So it's certainly not a defense in the court of.
Speaker 2: Laura vitalize them again.
Speaker 6: Look, I think, yeah, there's lots of things that come
Speaker 6: into play when it comes to alcohol and you know, sleep, food, yeah.
Speaker 4: Water consumption and just time.
Speaker 6: Time is the one thing you need to allow enough time,
Speaker 6: and that's where people fall short.
Speaker 2: Next morning, Jazz, don't move, Stevie, break out the tongue scrapeer.
Speaker 3: Don't do that. And jazz is very well behaved.
Speaker 2: It is very well behaved. So you constable Stevie Joganson
Speaker 2: from The Booze Bus Division of the Pipe. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for coming this morning, and thank you for
Speaker 2: the work you guys do. It's a dangerous there on
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 3: Thanks for keeping our roads safe.
Speaker 4: Are our best. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Gonna be a.
Speaker 6: Good Jason Lauren, Jason Lauren wake up feeling good on
Speaker 6: number one hundred.
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