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Speaker 1: Welcome to L three sixty Rugby League from every angle

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Speaker 1: joining me again the great Gordon Tellers, Delaine and Dave

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Speaker 1: Rickyo and it's official. Adam O'Brien is done at the Nights.

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Speaker 1: We broke the story last night. Twenty four hours later,

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Speaker 1: he's officially.

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Speaker 2: Out of Newcastle. What's the latest?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boys, obviously it's a significant development another coach in

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Speaker 3: the space of one week. In the wake of Des

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Speaker 3: Hasler's departure from the Titans, we now have Adam O'Brien

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Speaker 3: finished up at the Newcastle Nights after six seasons by

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Speaker 3: mutual agreement. Fellas this came down today, I can tell

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Speaker 3: you that Adam O'Brien fronted the playing group to reveal

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Speaker 3: that he was stepping aside, and it allows very much.

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Speaker 3: I would say it's a very much an amicable split.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's an ugly divorce or anything in

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Speaker 3: that regard.

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Speaker 1: Because we always hear mutual agreement, yep, not always. Often,

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Speaker 1: when when you do hear mutual agreement, it's actually not

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Speaker 1: a mutual agreement.

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Speaker 2: Is this one a mutually agreement?

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Speaker 3: I do, and I think it speaks to I mean,

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Speaker 3: talking to the Knights powers that the be today. It's

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Speaker 3: the point of which I believe that my Brian will

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Speaker 3: go to the presentation night like this is. They wanted

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Speaker 3: to end well here as well as possible, to the

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Speaker 3: point of which he will finish the last two games

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Speaker 3: off the season playing Cronulla this Sunday, followed by.

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Speaker 4: The Paramatta reels.

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Speaker 3: So look, we all believed it was in train as

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Speaker 3: far as Adam's time coming towards an end at the Knights,

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Speaker 3: and finally today the Veroster resolution.

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Speaker 1: I've heard this for a while, though on and off

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Speaker 1: for a number of years. Really, his job's been in

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Speaker 1: question at different times for different reasons.

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Speaker 2: How did this come to a head? What's brought it

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Speaker 2: to this?

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Speaker 1: I know we're saying it's a mutual option and both

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Speaker 1: parties are happy content in the decision, but what brought

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Speaker 1: it to this?

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Speaker 3: I think firmly over the last three to four weeks

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Speaker 3: the spirit within the side as far as their fight

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Speaker 3: is concerned. If you think maybe back six to seven

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Speaker 3: weeks ago, they were defending well, very well as a

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Speaker 3: football team. They were in in matches up until halftime

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Speaker 3: against the Melbourne Storm for an example.

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Speaker 4: But over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: The air is slightly coming out of the balloon, and

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Speaker 3: I think there's a realization from Adam O'Brien too that

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Speaker 3: come next year, come round one next year in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 3: if he's still in that hot seat, guess what the

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Speaker 3: headlines are. It's all about how the Newcastle Knights start.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's decided that enough's enough. I think

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Speaker 3: there's a genuine element of fatigue here as a head

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Speaker 3: coach and that it's time for him to take some

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Speaker 3: time out of the game.

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Speaker 5: I think gets an honorable, dignified exit. He could have

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Speaker 5: waited and waited and forced him to sack him to

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Speaker 5: get the full payout, and we understand it was a

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Speaker 5: mutual agreement on the payout, which probably tends to think

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Speaker 5: it's not my and be the full amount. But I

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Speaker 5: think this is a great way to go in that

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Speaker 5: he does it himself. There is no hostility, and I've

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Speaker 5: got to say, look, forty three percent doesn't look great.

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Speaker 5: I actually think it's a successful reign. Okay, they didn't

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Speaker 5: hit any great heights. They kept falling into finals and

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Speaker 5: going out the back door. They won one final against

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Speaker 5: Canberra in a five v eight But you know what,

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Speaker 5: considering when Newcastle were they are in the depths of

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Speaker 5: despair through the Bennett era, the Nathan Brown he was

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Speaker 5: trying to rebuild them era.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he can say it's a failed era

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Speaker 4: by any means.

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Speaker 5: Four finals in six appearances in six years is not bad.

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Speaker 5: Adam O'Brien's failings, I think we're more pr you don't

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Speaker 5: take on the Johns brothers early instinct and.

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Speaker 4: Sort of call them out.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to work in Newcastle.

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Speaker 5: There are other things I've talked about, not great in

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Speaker 5: press conferences, but these are sort of outside things, attacking

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Speaker 5: the fans at one point, which to his credit, he

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Speaker 5: acknowledged and he apologized the next day, and it takes

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Speaker 5: a men to do that.

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Speaker 2: But from a coaching perspective, I think it's reasonable and

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Speaker 2: reasonable run Gordy. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think he got all of his ideas over there,

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Speaker 6: and I just said, just the way you explained it

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Speaker 6: with both is you know, you can get tired and

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Speaker 6: they need a new voice. And they had been defensively

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Speaker 6: really good all year, right for the players they've had,

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Speaker 6: and they've had injuries. Everybody gets injuries. But the last

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Speaker 6: month I think it was up until the weekend there

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Speaker 6: was like eighty two points in five games scored against him,

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Speaker 6: so there was something that wasn't quite right. But who

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Speaker 6: comes and replaces him? That's the that's the big question.

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Speaker 1: Replacing is one thing, and we'll get to that too, Gordy,

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Speaker 1: but recruitment is another and it's an area that they're

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Speaker 1: struggled in day and we spoke last night about Dylan

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Speaker 1: the amount of money he's getting to go there. They've

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Speaker 1: got Kaylon on huge dollars. They're shortened the forwards halves nine.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a few key positions to feel.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Braith and if I would argue that ever since

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Pierce moved on, the Knights have never been able

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Speaker 3: to recover with a key half to run that footy team.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the likes of Jake Clifford, Adam Klohne,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Milford, Jackson Hastings, Tyson Gamble. The listening goes on

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Speaker 3: of this revolving door of halves, and coupled with that

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Speaker 3: is the departure of Leo Thompson, Daniel Sofferiti kirk Man

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Speaker 3: and Mitch Barnett. They're key figures that've gone on and

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Speaker 3: kicked goals at rival clubs, and I think that is

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Speaker 3: another factor in Adam's departure, that the club have realized

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Speaker 3: that we haven't been able to nail our recruitment. The

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Speaker 3: flip side to that is Fellows and I'd be interested

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Speaker 3: to get your opinion.

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Speaker 1: Is that him not being a good lure or is

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Speaker 1: that poor decisions by the recruitment Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Or both?

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Speaker 7: I think it's both. I definitely think it's both.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been critical of Knights management in the past,

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Speaker 3: and I think to their I think they've handled this

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Speaker 3: situation very well. But there's no denying the chopping and

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Speaker 3: changing of the hierarchy of the Newcastle Knights. It comes

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Speaker 3: with different decisions every time and different attacts of plays.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred thousand dollars a year. Whose decision was that

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Speaker 1: the coach or the club?

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Speaker 3: I would say club at the time, Yeah, but look,

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt coach gets to say but club. I

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Speaker 3: would have leaned towards club there, and that's backfired tremendously

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Speaker 3: for a long time.

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Speaker 4: When did Pierce twenty two? Yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 5: That's what three seasons where the halves have never been sorted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you think about it. You're not going to win.

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Speaker 5: You're not going to do much if you can't get

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Speaker 5: your halves right over it such.

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Speaker 4: A long spin. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The irony of all these fellas is that now that

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Speaker 3: Adam O'Brien's gone, arguably the Knights are going to have

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Speaker 3: their most competitive and exciting spine in the last well

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Speaker 3: since twenty two, since Piers with Dylan Brown, Fletcher, Sharp

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Speaker 3: Klum Ponger and Phoenix Crossland. That dummy half it's that

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Speaker 3: looks pretty sharp, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So to speak, Yeah, you know what it does and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't like the potential of it. Yeah, potential And

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Speaker 1: again that's where they haven't exceeded. Newcastle is developing these

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Speaker 1: players and reaching their potential. You know, Caylan is a

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Speaker 1: fantastic player and I've said he can be the best

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Speaker 1: player in the competition. He plays limited games, He's injured

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Speaker 1: a lot, and when he has played he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: his best this year. But we know how great he is.

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Speaker 1: Dylan Brown, I mean, what are we going to get there?

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Speaker 1: We don't know, Like it's already overs even if he

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Speaker 1: does play well there.

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Speaker 2: But if he doesn't play well there.

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Speaker 1: It's in a horrific bund and then you know you've

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Speaker 1: got Fletcher's got all the potential in the world. He's

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Speaker 1: been really good at times, but still still a jury

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Speaker 1: out on him, and then Phoenix as well.

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Speaker 2: He's a really good player.

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Speaker 1: But you know, so, yeah, you're right, there is potential

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Speaker 1: there and it's exciting if they get it right. And

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Speaker 1: that's why the coach is probably so important. And that

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Speaker 1: leads me to this. I spoke to Peter part this morning.

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Speaker 1: The talk around Blake greenbeing done is not done, so

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Speaker 1: there was that was a bit premature, which he spoke

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Speaker 1: about the show last night. I do believe they are

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Speaker 1: going to go through a process and interview coaches, and

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Speaker 1: I've heard as early as this morning Justin Holbrook he

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Speaker 1: is the front runner. Don't know how much I can

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Speaker 1: read into that or believe that he's obviously a chance.

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Speaker 1: What do we know about that?

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Speaker 3: That's firmly my mail that I'm receiving, guys, is that

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Speaker 3: Justin Holbrook is the front runner.

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Speaker 5: The head Castle background, there's a Newcastle back and I

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Speaker 5: think that's I'm not saying that's the prerequisite, but I

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Speaker 5: think that's a plus.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I think there needs to be a reconnection to the

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Speaker 4: The worst series.

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Speaker 2: Here is here playing for Newcastle.

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Speaker 4: He spent three years at Saint Helen.

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Speaker 2: You think that's because we did touch on that last time.

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Speaker 4: There are some.

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Speaker 5: Places you need to have it's good to have a connection.

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Speaker 5: It was just works well, you know what I found

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Speaker 5: bothers And again you don't go by social media because

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Speaker 5: it's not real life. But last week when the Broncos

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Speaker 5: did their five day camp and they went to Maitland

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Speaker 5: and they worked hate the person in the putting the

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Speaker 5: proofs in the butt. They filled Maitland. They filled that showground.

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Speaker 5: Now let's be honestly there to see Reese Walsh. But

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Speaker 5: there was a lot of commenting that why doesn't our

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Speaker 5: club do this sort of thing?

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Speaker 2: And it just made me, I just.

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Speaker 4: Wonder, I'm not close enough to it.

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Speaker 5: Is there a disconnect between the club and the community.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you see that those crowds, they're there every week,

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Speaker 5: so every second week.

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Speaker 1: So I think every coach at every club needs to

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Speaker 1: involve the community and that is that it can be overlooked.

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Speaker 1: But he's so underestimated. Now they are your people. Now

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Speaker 1: they are who support you, They inspire the players and

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Speaker 1: they are why you play. So like I think any

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Speaker 1: coach who goes in there, and especially in Newcastle, Newcastle

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Speaker 1: could be coming last and I'll have more than any

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Speaker 1: other team coming last would have it at their games.

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Speaker 1: That's how loyal these fans are. So you've got to

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Speaker 1: invest into them. And you're right, like having someone who's

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Speaker 1: experienced Newcastle before and knows the town is definitely an advantage.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is like Blake was front centered yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Now it's Holebrook and that's only less than twenty four hour.

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Speaker 1: It was twelve hours later, but Holbrook all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden went past him in the horse race. So you

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Speaker 1: know we're going to get a lot of speculation. He

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Speaker 1: let's just talk about everythink are the options?

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Speaker 2: Is there any other doing?

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Speaker 3: Young is another name that has come across my desk, guys,

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Speaker 3: current assistant coach of the Saint George Lawarre Dragons, formerly

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Speaker 3: did astinct with the Cowboys, definitely has aspirations to be

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Speaker 3: an NRL coach. And from what we know not only

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Speaker 3: about Dean but the Young family there are hard nosed

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Speaker 1: He's incredible, how out of side, out of mind you

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Speaker 3: There, Fellas what will be absolutely critical And I went

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Speaker 7: Now that feels like ages away next year's twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 4: What do they do there?

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Speaker 1: Here's the stats on Pine.

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Speaker 5: So you take out that ten game run in twenty

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Speaker 1: You know, I think.

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Speaker 6: It's so Brown seven six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do that.

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Speaker 3: What's really interesting, guys, Dylan Brown is right on the

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Speaker 3: It is so critical this preseason, of which will be

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it'd be interesting when they do their search for

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Speaker 1: All right, Ivan clear He has defended his decision to

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Speaker 8: I think we did it pretty much the same last

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Speaker 2: It in my premiership.

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Speaker 8: I get that we just decided that, you know, if

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Speaker 8: just keep going. Every decisions that I kind of make

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Speaker 9: Actually, well you didn't reevaluate what you do for the

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Speaker 8: Now I've got a plan for next week. We've got

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Speaker 1: The rest first, it's dividing the game, or is it.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem.

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Speaker 4: You love it.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem.

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Speaker 1: It's a strategic genius.

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Speaker 4: But nothing's been proven.

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Speaker 2: Well what do you It doesn't doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's strategic genius. If what if? What if?

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Speaker 2: They they're going to be they're resting their players regardless, Ye, you.

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Speaker 4: Were going to be fresher.

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Speaker 6: Our friend here goes to Hawaii every year for three

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, But it does, Douglas, It's all good.

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Speaker 4: It does freshen you up.

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Speaker 6: So the only thing that was going to stop Penrith right,

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Speaker 4: They need to be.

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Speaker 5: Penrith have shown something over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: an eight point lead twice if you include Yo twice

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Speaker 5: in four years, they've blown an eight point lead.

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Speaker 2: They've done it twice in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't that tell you they are running on empty and

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Speaker 5: What if he does it again? What if he rested

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Speaker 3: Well that's where his reaction quite interesting in the press

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Speaker 7: Because I thought of that too, Dan.

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Speaker 3: What's stopping him from doing it again and continue to

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Speaker 2: Let me say this, Let me say this.

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Speaker 5: What is the difference between this all right, it's sixteen

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Speaker 4: Well, it's ten players, yes, but it's the same principle.

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Speaker 5: Everyone calls I'm a genius and all the coaches Bellamy

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Speaker 5: are their geniuses? For are they're looking after their players

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Speaker 5: What's the difference Because it's Thursday night football, because it's

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Speaker 5: the and I can see the NRL actually trying to

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Speaker 5: legislate against this, whether it's having some system where an

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Speaker 5: and if they're not, the NRL will automatically look at it.

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Speaker 2: I can see that.

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Speaker 4: But even that's for it with danger.

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Speaker 1: Which leads me to I'm a big fan, but my

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Speaker 4: Well, bro, my contracts up. You've just lost it. I'm

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Speaker 2: But we do we do understand it.

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Speaker 4: In all seriousness.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the NRL need to look at capping

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Speaker 3: the number of players you can rest?

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Speaker 7: What if the entire tire round the entire round it?

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Speaker 2: Well, because when you give a train end, when.

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Speaker 6: And you're running and you're getting the blood, sweat and tears,

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Speaker 6: you do it the holder trophy at the end of

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Speaker 7: I don't think I'm bashing the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 7: It's very strategic and I can't wait to watch it unfold.

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Speaker 4: And I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: Dan's right, they've been up for ages, they have had

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Speaker 4: But it does open a can of worms. It really does.

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Speaker 3: From from NRL crowd point of view, think about the

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Speaker 3: They've been dutted. There's no other way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: That fan has been dunted. TV ratings will suffer.

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Speaker 1: If there are a Dogs fan, they'll be happy, yep.

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Speaker 1: If they're a Panthers fan and the Panthers are holding

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Speaker 1: up the Premiershupe again, yeah they'll be happy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well that's a big gift, mate.

447
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Speaker 2: It is a big gift. But no one's done it before.

448
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Speaker 1: So when I do something that no one else has

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Speaker 1: done n sixteen players in preparation for, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: it may not pay off, but I am I'm with

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Speaker 1: him to.

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Speaker 6: I'd like a week off. If I've won four Grand

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Speaker 6: Finals and I've played that, do you think I've earned

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Speaker 6: the right to miss one club game.

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Speaker 10: They've given enough to the game and cast as the

456
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Speaker 10: last five years, mind you, but no one's playing up

457
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 10: Meltour's doing the same thing now they're playing Monster and again,

458
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Speaker 10: where's the line?

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Speaker 4: Where do you draw that one?

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Speaker 3: That's where maybe the players is acceptable, but sixteen isn't

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Speaker 3: players because you're doing Look, you think this is open

462
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Speaker 3: to can of worms to look at.

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Speaker 1: You want to compromise, that's met halfway. Let's make it

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Speaker 1: always compare it. Look at NFL. How do they do it?

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Speaker 4: NFL?

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Speaker 2: The rested that will team? You didn't know the Chiefs if.

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Speaker 5: Well, the last week of the NFL season is a

468
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Speaker 5: joke and only one or two games matter. The rest

469
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Speaker 5: of them are resting all their players because they're getting

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Speaker 5: ready for the playoffs. This is I'm surprised to taking

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Speaker 5: coaches this long to cotton, and the longer the season gets,

472
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Speaker 5: the more likely coaches are to do it all right.

473
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Speaker 1: Kevin Serretta has refused to underestimate the new Little Panthers

474
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Speaker 1: side while hitting back at criticism of his captain.

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Speaker 9: We sort of got a bit of wind of it

476
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Speaker 9: the last week, but again we didn't think too much

477
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Speaker 9: of it. We've got no reason to be complacent. Where

478
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Speaker 9: we're fighting for every win. We're fighting for improvement every week,

479
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Speaker 9: and positions in our squad up for granted. And a

480
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Speaker 9: lot of responses to it, but I think it's ridiculous.

481
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Speaker 9: He's one of the most upstanding characters in the game.

482
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Speaker 9: You know that incident from the weekend. When you watch

483
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Speaker 9: all the games at foot, you see five, five, six,

484
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Speaker 9: seven of those tops incidents. So if journalist wants to

485
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Speaker 9: wants to report on them every Monday morning, then might

486
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Speaker 9: find a few more charges get handed out on a

487
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Speaker 9: Tuesday Wednesday afternoon.

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Speaker 7: I think it was odd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very odd, and it was coach really quick.

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Speaker 6: I like cranky can I like the because it's really

491
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Speaker 6: nice early Josh Jamal just there and now he was.

492
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Speaker 2: He's not me. The buzz is running the game.

493
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Speaker 4: But Buzzy, that's the Buzzy rule is.

494
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Speaker 2: The king maker.

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Speaker 4: He got.

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Speaker 1: The change and he's still the Fazels too. He's running

497
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Speaker 1: the Titans at the moment. Well, one thing I will say,

498
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Speaker 1: and you know, I would have been pissed off if

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Speaker 1: I was Cameron too.

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Speaker 2: If you know an article.

501
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Speaker 1: Has changed the results and there's no but one thing

502
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Speaker 1: I can't agree with there is there's five there's five

503
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Speaker 1: or six of them happening around. If you if you

504
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Speaker 1: if you keep your eye, that's not the case. There's

505
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Speaker 1: not five or six of these happening.

506
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Speaker 4: It's a surprise they missed it.

507
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Speaker 2: It was real.

508
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Speaker 4: They do miss things, but this was there. I think

509
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Speaker 4: we commented on it during the game.

510
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Speaker 5: It's not as if this is social media footage that

511
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Speaker 5: sort of you know, started to do.

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Speaker 2: The round we think.

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Speaker 3: I think Serrado is taking umbridge at any suggestion about

514
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Speaker 3: Crichton's character, Well, just absolutely, the relationship there is so thick.

515
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Speaker 6: I agree, And actually I love christ like when play

516
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Speaker 6: react like that's what you watch, right, So the way

517
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Speaker 6: the boys come in the pushing him, which means hey,

518
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Speaker 6: that's not like straight away like and that's a reaction.

519
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Speaker 4: So it's fair.

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Speaker 2: Cret is a great human But absolutely what I love

521
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Speaker 2: the way that he plays.

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Speaker 5: Fellas, explain to me what is he actually trying to

523
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Speaker 5: do there? But what's what's It's.

524
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Speaker 2: Like a tricell.

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Speaker 3: He's thinking, perhaps his head is the ball and he's

526
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Speaker 3: trying to strip the strip the footy.

527
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Speaker 4: But he's just trying to inflict a bit of pain.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

529
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Speaker 4: It's fair enough.

530
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Speaker 2: Fair enough.

531
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Speaker 3: I will ask you this, Fellows, and we just touched

532
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Speaker 3: on the sixteen resting players. What do you what do

533
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Speaker 3: you think impact it has on the Bulldogs, because as

534
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Speaker 3: far as my point of view is, I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's I don't be happy at all.

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Speaker 2: He's still there.

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Speaker 4: I would know. I would think your tickets for the.

538
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Speaker 2: Game, I would think, will get you a box out of?

539
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Speaker 2: Is it a course?

540
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Speaker 7: The only one there?

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Speaker 2: You can take your group, the ones that travel, you

542
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Speaker 2: can take me.

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Speaker 5: The only imagine if it's six or one half time. Honestly,

544
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Speaker 5: that's why Canterbury got nothing to gain.

545
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Speaker 2: Now.

546
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Speaker 5: They win by sixty, they're supposed to, but if it's close,

547
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Speaker 5: all of a suddeny are going to be under the paint.

548
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Speaker 1: All right, Stick around journals This Sunday, the F one returns.

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Speaker 1: Tune into the Dutch Grand Prix on Sunday on Channel

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Speaker 1: five O six is ossiel oscar Piastre looks to extend

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Speaker 1: his nine point lead