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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: And there was a big debate that took place last night,

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Speaker 2: the first and many to come in those political race

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Speaker 2: as we get our strides on to make our way

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Speaker 2: to May three? Is that right, mister Dutton?

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Speaker 1: That's it. Everyone's so excited about the election.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, they are welcome to the studio.

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Speaker 1: Great to be with you. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Peter, before we do start, we just wanted to

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Speaker 3: check in to see if your old man was okay,

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Speaker 3: because we did hear something last night that he had

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Speaker 3: a heart attack just before the debate. Is everything okays?

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Speaker 1: Very much? He's good. I spoke to him this morning.

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Speaker 1: He's eighty this year. He's a great man. He's stoic

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Speaker 1: and he's a tougher bugger, so he'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: He's good. Can I just say I struggle getting up

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Speaker 3: and talking in front of people. I have panic attacks sometimes.

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Speaker 3: But to have something like that actually go down just

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Speaker 3: before you have a huge debate like that, you did

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Speaker 3: very well to go out there and actually do it, Pete.

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Speaker 1: No, thanks mate, it's yeah. Look I thought, do I

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Speaker 1: pull out of the debate? Do I? But anyway, my

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Speaker 1: sisters were up there with him and giving me regular reports,

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Speaker 1: which was good. But yeah, he's a great man.

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Speaker 2: I love him very much that it is good to know.

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Speaker 2: We want you to stick around, mate. We won't get

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Speaker 2: you to kick a footy in the studio. We have

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Speaker 2: that andy cameraman in here. Pete, you'll split too many

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Speaker 2: heads open. The first debate of this election campaign was

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Speaker 2: held in Western Sydney. I must win area for the

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Speaker 2: major parties.

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Speaker 1: A cut in the fuel excise and fuel tax means

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Speaker 1: a twenty five per cent a lead of reduction. We

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Speaker 1: would reassess where we are as an economy, as a people,

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Speaker 1: as a nation in twelve months time, and if we

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Speaker 1: needed to extend it then we could do that. I

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Speaker 1: think we can frame ourselves as a better alternative over

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Speaker 1: the next three years and what people have experienced over

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Speaker 1: this three years.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're right at the debate of plate place last night,

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Speaker 2: the first of many as we're headed the polls on

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Speaker 2: May three. But I believe Peter Dutton has actually come

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Speaker 2: in this morning fits after our now our announcement for

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Speaker 2: the Lady Gaga tickets. Peter' is that what you dropped

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Speaker 2: in for us? It's about the campaign and went the

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Speaker 2: first two tickets.

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Speaker 1: I'm here from a ticket, so I've lined up out

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Speaker 1: the front and thank you little monsters fans.

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Speaker 3: First gig? You ever saw Pete first gig? Can you remember?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Actually no, I can't think what the first one. It

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Speaker 1: would have been in Brisie and I want to see

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Speaker 1: an excess. But around the kick, aging myself? Correct?

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Speaker 2: Did you see them live?

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Speaker 3: Did you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? And but there was something before that. I

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Speaker 1: just can't John Farna, but I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: John actually cold chisel, No, no, Jesus, what happens when

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Speaker 1: you get to my age? You do?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's let's stick this sport because we need to

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Speaker 3: talk about the kick. The other politicians cursed Peter, like

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Speaker 3: rolling the arm over or kicking a ball. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I must admit you kicked the ball and the cameraman

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Speaker 3: didn't move it. Oh, I'm thinking he's got a movie.

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Speaker 3: He could see the ball coming. I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 3: think the kick was too bad picked well, Fitz.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like a gun barrel. It was

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Speaker 1: just lofty. If I had alc if, I had to

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Speaker 1: sort of drilled him off the side of the boot

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Speaker 1: and he was three meters away and smash him in

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Speaker 1: the face. I take take the wrapper, but I actually

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Speaker 1: thought it was a reasonable kick and they'd been straight

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Speaker 1: all day to the kids there they were catching and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know he saw it. He just followed it

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Speaker 1: through the camera right right into his face and I thought,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing because.

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Speaker 2: That's a fit footage. I wanted to see the ball

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Speaker 2: coming out at like something from Australia's funny stime videos

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Speaker 2: back in the day. But it was great that you

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Speaker 2: saw him. Also, I went to extreme leads to bad

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Speaker 2: his bandage his head up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I had the full bandage on, which was

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Speaker 1: which was good. So he was taken care of him.

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Speaker 1: The Federal Police patched him up. I saw him yesterday

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Speaker 1: at the press conference. I don't think he had a

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Speaker 1: band aid on, so I think he's recovering and he's

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Speaker 1: a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: Mate. Let's talk about last night at the debate. I

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Speaker 2: think he did a great job. You know, it was

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Speaker 2: a divided room, but I thought what was interesting was

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Speaker 2: it was educational for a lot of Australians and don't

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Speaker 2: understand what's going on as well, don't understand the policies,

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Speaker 2: and I was there learning too, So can you break

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Speaker 2: it down and explain for everybody who may have missed

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Speaker 2: it last night, Because one of the main talking points

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Speaker 2: is about the twenty five cents reduction in the fuel.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain not only what the government is already

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Speaker 2: taking with the fuel, but also the knock on of

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Speaker 2: the price of fuel.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really important discussion. And people's eyes

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Speaker 1: glaze over when you start talking about tax et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But you think about a leader of fuel. If it's

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Speaker 1: a dollar, fifty fifty cents of that is tax. So

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Speaker 1: we're paying a lot of in tax. And the trouble

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Speaker 1: is that it goes up each year. It's index to

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Speaker 1: go up. So what we're saying is that people need help.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, the PM's got an offer of seventy

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Speaker 1: a day tax cut, but it doesn't start for fifteen months.

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Speaker 1: Our argument is that people need help. Now, how can

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Speaker 1: you do that? If you reduce the tax on petrol

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Speaker 1: and diesel by twenty five cents a leter, people can

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Speaker 1: get that in their pockets straight away. So if you're

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Speaker 1: a two car family, if you're in Western Sydney or

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Speaker 1: wherever you might be traveling, running kids around. It means

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Speaker 1: probably a thirty dollars a week save that's after tax,

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Speaker 1: so people get an immediate benefit. But it's not just

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Speaker 1: of benefit to you know, mums and dads filling up cars.

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Speaker 1: It's also to pensioners who aren't paying tax and didn't

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Speaker 1: get anything out of this budget. It's all so helped

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Speaker 1: to the plumber and the three or four UITs that

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Speaker 1: it can help the delivery truck driver who might be

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Speaker 1: filling up three times a week, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: right across the economy, you're starting to take out some

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Speaker 1: of the cost pressure in those businesses because ultimately, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the reason we're paying thirty percent more for groceries at

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Speaker 1: is because the cost of electricity has gone up so much,

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Speaker 1: and the cost of gas has gone up so much,

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Speaker 1: and the cost of fuel has gone up. All of

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Speaker 1: that is being passed on. So how do we take

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Speaker 1: some of that cost out of the economy. And that's

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Speaker 1: the logic to the twenty five cent of liter reduction.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what I missed, and that's what I

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Speaker 2: didn't realize until I heard the truck driver last night saying, well,

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Speaker 2: the thing is, every time we have to pay this

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Speaker 2: that's why it all goes up. And the knock on

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Speaker 2: effect is what you're talking about, the thirty percent rise.

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Speaker 2: So I thought that was a really interesting point.

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Speaker 1: Well, it makes sense, doesn't They've got costs and they

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Speaker 1: can they can cop some of it, but ultimately we

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Speaker 1: want them to be successful small businesses because they're employing

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Speaker 1: trainees and apprentices and you know they're they're contruding by

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Speaker 1: paying taxes and that's how we pay your runs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Harry's Harry's just ticked over second year and he's a

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Speaker 1: carpenter chippy. Yeah he's good, yeah, right, and he's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. He's often to put up an

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Speaker 1: extension out the back cash. He's up for Cashi straight away.

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Speaker 1: You need to start paying your bill off before you

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Speaker 1: before you start free exactly.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever think about being a police officer.

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Speaker 1: Some sides, I don't think he did.

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Speaker 3: The old man was a brick layer as well. Did

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Speaker 3: he try to get you as a brickie.

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Speaker 1: Is started out as a brickie and then was a

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Speaker 1: builder and worked out pretty early on sweeping up on

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Speaker 1: building sites, picking up off cuts of timber. And but

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Speaker 1: I was just way too soft to be out there

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Speaker 1: and son for that. It is a hard job. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: look it's you know, I watched Dad work seven days

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Speaker 1: a week for when we were growing up, and and

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Speaker 1: you know, it was tough work. I'm in bad back

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Speaker 1: and bad knees, and but I'm really proud that Harry's

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Speaker 1: gone into a trader and Dad's especially proud of him

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Speaker 1: as well, sort of following in his footsteps. So he's

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Speaker 1: a good kid. He's got a good work ethic and

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Speaker 1: good manners and he's yeah, he'll do well. He wants

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Speaker 1: to spend too much money on his yout, which I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to advise him to stage it a little, but

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Speaker 1: he is a good kid, exactly twenty five leader.

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Speaker 2: Your beautiful wife carely on tour with you man.

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Speaker 1: She is yes, yeah, which is really nice actually, because

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Speaker 1: you're in a different hotel every night, just checking in

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Speaker 1: and checking out, and you know, we can do three

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Speaker 1: states in a day at the moment, so it's nice

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Speaker 1: to have.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in that shirt, Peter, exactly that way. Not

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Speaker 2: that shirt again.

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Speaker 3: Now we know how busy you are, sir the leader

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Speaker 3: of the opposition. Good luck Peter on May the third,

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Speaker 3: and thanks for coming in this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thanks boys very much, thank you, thank you.

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