1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: On scoring lives Austrodia. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rida Panekey Show coming 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 3: up tonight. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 4: Liberal Senator just Into Namba. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: Jim Proprice lashes out at Susan Lee over damaging party 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: room leaks and talking about leaks, here's another one. A 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: little known Victorian MP launches an astonishing attack against Andrew 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: Hasty in a Liberal party room meeting. 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: Dan While will join me to discuss that. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: Shortly, Barrista Lama Kolaris will be here to explain why 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Victorians should be deeply concerned about the state government's Indigenous 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: Treaty bill. The Great Army Horowitz will have the latest 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: from the US, and later in the hour, I'll speak 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: to the man behind a new groundbreaking documentary, and Left 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: Is Losing It features this charming lady getting a dose 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: of instant karma. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 4: Start Yeah, but first. 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Liberal Senator just Into namberjmper Prize has lashed out at 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: opposition leader Susan Lee, demanding that she stop the leaks 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: and get the party under control. Following several instances of 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: anonymous MPs verballying the likes of Andrew Hasty and former 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: leader Peter Dutton in the media. 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 4: Here's what Center Price had to say. 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 5: The leaking of a verbal submission to quite frankly lazy 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 5: journalists is ridiculous. It's another attempt at pylon on Andrew 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: Hasty and also verbaling our former leader Peter Dutton, and 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 5: something has to be done. I've written to our leader 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 5: about my concerns about backgrounding and about leaking to the media. 30 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 5: Enough to us. 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: Joining me now is deputy executive director at the Institute 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: of Public Affairs and Wild Dance. Senator Price also made 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: it clear in that interview that Andrew Hasty is a 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: man of integrity and conviction and has her full support. 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: They would certainly make a formidable team to take on labor. 36 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 7: I think that's right. And there's a couple of things here. 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 7: There's a number of individuals who are on the backbench 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 7: where it seems a bit strange to Andrew Hasty. Senator Price, 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 7: plus others like Garth Hamilton or Henry Pike, for example, 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 7: who have been making important contributions to debate recently. 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 8: And I just think when you. 43 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 7: Look at the current situation, the coalition opposition is not 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 7: taking the fight to the government in any meaningful way 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 7: on the big issues that Australians care about, whether it's 46 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 7: net zero, migration, Australian values for example, this is completely 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 7: missing from debate. There is not much time in order 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 7: to mount a case against the government, and you need 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 7: your best performers on the front bench engaging in that debate. 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 7: So you know, the number one thing here is to 51 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 7: make sure that these very bad policies are being debated 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 7: and contested. 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 8: But at the moment that's just not happening. 54 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 7: And I don't think the Coalition Opposition has the right 55 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 7: cattle on the front bench. 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: Well further on Andrew Hasty, The Australian reports, Liberal MP 57 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: Mary Aldred, who no one has heard of her, took 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: aim at Hasty in a party room meeting in Canberra 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, telling the former front bencher she had no 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: respect for the way he was conducting himself. She said 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: the way he handled his front bench resignation and his 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: campaign on several policies including industry protection, migration net zero, 63 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: could cause the Coalition to go further backwards at the 64 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: next election. Dan this attack was set to have left 65 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: a fellow MP's stunt, possibly because like me, they've never 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: heard of Mary Aldred before. 67 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: Why would someone such as. 68 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: Her, who in my mind is never laid at glove 69 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 3: on labor. 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: Beverbaling a possible future leader. 71 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 7: Look, I'm not too sure, but the point that I 72 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 7: would make here is that what we need is more 73 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 7: members of Parliament speaking out on more things, more often. 74 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 8: Now. 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 7: The idea that everything has to be kept behind closed 76 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 7: doors is not consistent with where the Australian community is. 77 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 7: The things that Andrew Hasty has been speaking out on 78 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 7: are things that are care about and even if you 79 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 7: don't agree with what he's. 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 8: Saying, debate the issue. 81 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 7: Debate the policy issue rather than trying to attack the player. 82 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 7: And I think this goes to a problem, which is 83 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 7: because the Coalition had a pretty ordinary ten years in government, 84 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 7: certainly from twenty fifteen onwards. Whether it was the failed 85 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 7: COVID response, whether it was signing up to net zero, 86 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 7: whether it was running up hundreds of billions of dollars 87 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 7: in debt. They need to have a clean break with 88 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 7: the past. They need to show the public that they 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 7: have changed. They need to show the public they understand 90 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 7: the issues facing Australia's future. Instead they're just talking about 91 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 7: day to day policy issues that are of little relevance 92 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 7: to the person on the street. So I think the 93 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 7: one person that's spoken out, Andrew Hasty, is now being 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 7: the target. 95 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 8: It just doesn't make sense to me. 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: It doesn't What about the analysis here that his campaign 97 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: on issues like net zero, migration industry protection is going 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: to set the party back. 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: I think any sensible. 100 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: Person would say the party is at rock bottom. They 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: are recording currently the lowest primary figures they've ever had 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: in any News poll since they started measuring the primary vote, 103 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: and Australians are crying out for real choice. They want 104 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: a debate on these key issues, not some one party 105 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: system where Liberal and labor almost indistinguishable from each other. 106 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: But there is certain a counter view to that that 107 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: the likes of Andrew Hasty and Senator Price and others 108 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: who are pushing for Australia to abandon net zero, pushing 109 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: for low migration, Well that's out of touch with modern Australia. 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 7: What's your take, Well, that's inconsistent with the last two elections. 111 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 8: You know, this is what this is forgets me. 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 7: The party has never been more to the left and 113 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 7: they've never been performing worse. 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 8: I mean don't forget. 115 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 7: I don't think most parliamentarians in the Liberal Party understand 116 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 7: how catastrophic the loss was. This is the worst performance 117 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 7: of the Liberal Party in its history since nineteen forty 118 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 7: three when the UAP got rubbed out of existence. You've 119 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 7: got to understand that the community no longer respects the 120 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 7: Liberal Party. 121 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 8: You know, this has to sink in at some point. 122 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 7: And the point that I would make is, Okay, the 123 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 7: so called moderates, and I'm not talking about any particular individual, 124 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 7: but the so called moderates in the party, what are 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 7: the policies that you're advocating for? They will run which 126 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 7: other people's policies. But let's take net zero. What do 127 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 7: you want net zero by twenty forty? Do you want 128 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 7: to double immigration? In take do you want to have 129 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 7: four flags flying rather than three flags? You know, what 130 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 7: are the actual policies that you believe are going to 131 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 7: get the coalition back into government at least Andrew Hasty 132 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 7: and others like Senators Enterprise are communicating policy views. Why 133 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 7: don't you actually have your own policy views and debate that. 134 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 7: But instead they hide behind these leaks that are coming 135 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 7: out of forever rather than having their own ideas of 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 7: how to get the Coalition back into government. 137 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: And they still as a party have no position on 138 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: these key issues. 139 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: I mean, how many more reviews? How many more months. 140 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: Are they going to waste before they actually come to 141 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: a position. 142 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: And I know what they stand for. 143 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how they expect dear Electra to know 144 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: what they stand for when they themselves don't have policies 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: in this area yet and we're still doing endless reviews 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: to figure out who we are. 147 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: Now, let's move on to real. 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: Estate experts warning that surging crime rates and soaring property 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: taxes are forcing Victorian home buyers to look into state. 150 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: Speaking at a Property Council event this week, industry leader 151 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: Andrew Valentine said that while Melbourne offers one of Australia's 152 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: more affordable markets, it has less appeal due to rising 153 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: crime and taxes. 154 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: Dan The problem is also. 155 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: Affecting retail investors and commercial property builders who are now 156 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: looking to invest in other cities where crime rates are 157 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: lower and there's probably a little bit less red tape 158 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: and less taxes on property. 159 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 7: Well, crime and taxes are bad things. Who would have 160 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 7: thought that, you know, and this is you know, this 161 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 7: is another example of how you know, it's quite stunning 162 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 7: actually for someone to say that, well, we're not going 163 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 7: to invest or, you know, investment is going to go 164 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 7: down in Victoria because of crime. I've not heard that before. So, 165 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 7: you know, it seems that every week that goes by, 166 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 7: things get worse and worse in Victoria. Now I wonder 167 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 7: whether the public now thinks that things are just so 168 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 7: bad in Victoria that that has can't be fixed. And 169 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 7: the thing that the opposition in Victoria needs to understand 170 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 7: is they're going to have to have a couple of 171 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 7: big ideas to actually convince people that the state can 172 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 7: be fixed. They're a bit obsessed with talking about relatively 173 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 7: small things like the cost of machete bins, which I 174 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 7: agree it's a total waste of money, and I understand 175 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 7: they're trying to say that this goes to the point 176 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 7: that the government can't manage money. But you've got to 177 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 7: actually show the public that you understand that Victoria is 178 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 7: fundamentally broken and convince them that you're going to be 179 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 7: able to fix those problems. So now is the time 180 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 7: for the opposition in Victoria to be bold with a 181 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 7: couple of very big ideas. That will go to the 182 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 7: community about how they're going to get Victoria fixed. 183 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, go tough on crime. 184 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: That is a vote winner any election, let alone this 185 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: one when crime has just been a top issue in 186 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: this state. It leads the news just about every night, 187 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: it's on the front pages consistently. But also when it 188 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: comes to taxes, Dan, I mean, have we heard anything 189 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: about them doing something about land tax or other taxes 190 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: that are driving mom and dad investors out of the market. 191 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: It seems to be they're too timid to really tackle 192 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: those big issues. 193 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, so far that seems to be the case. 194 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 7: Now, the charitable view would be that there's I don't 195 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 7: know what is at twelve thirty months or the next election, 196 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 7: so there's plenty of time to roll this out. But 197 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 7: you know, I really think that the issue here is 198 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 7: you've got to talk about, as I said, a couple 199 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 7: of big things that matter to the community. Taxes is 200 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 7: one of them, but clearly the cost of energy and 201 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 7: policies like net zero, and this is an area where 202 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 7: the Victorian government's gone further than any other jurisdiction and 203 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 7: all you have to do is look at the consequences. 204 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 7: But I also think, you know, reader. The treaty is 205 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 7: a massive deal. It is a massive issue. It affects 206 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 7: the lives of every single Victorian. It will permanently change 207 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 7: the structure of Victoria to have a two tier in society. 208 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 7: And so far the opposition, while they oppose it, they're 209 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 7: not going to campaign on it yet. It's one of 210 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 7: the biggest negative crazy Victoria in its entire history. 211 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 8: So that would be number one for me. 212 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, And later in the program I'll be 213 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: speaking to a leading barrister about just how impactful that 214 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: treaty is, and I think Victorians really are not fully 215 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: aware of how broad its powers are and its influence 216 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: and how divisive it is now. Earlier today, Senator Claire 217 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: Chandler asked a rather simple question of sex discrimination Commissioner 218 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: and a Cody, and she got this astonishing response. 219 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 9: There are a range of people who identify as women 220 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 9: who are women. 221 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: Did you mean that biological males can be women. 222 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 9: Men? So I think we have different language that perhaps 223 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 9: you're using that I would use. So I don't understand 224 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 9: the term biological men, right. 225 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: This might be a short trunch of questions. 226 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: Then she really says she doesn't understand terms like biological men. 227 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: I've listened to the full answer, and Dan, it does 228 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: not get better. In fact, it gets worse. How could 229 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: someone like her be in that role. She is the 230 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: sex discrimination Commissioner, she's supposed to be there in part 231 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: to protect the rights of girls and women, and she 232 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be able to define one. 233 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 7: Well, we're governed by morons, and you know, I just 234 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 7: don't you know, how much further can this go? How 235 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 7: much longer can this go on for? We've send this 236 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 7: time and time again. There was that famous one of 237 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 7: Senator Antique, you know who stitched up one of the 238 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 7: I think it was the health officer who couldn't define 239 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 7: what a woman was, and they sort of go on 240 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 7: these long and elaborate sort of you know, sort of 241 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 7: non answers, and people just look at it. Normal people 242 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 7: look at it and go, what you can't tell me 243 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 7: what a man or a woman is? I mean, if 244 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 7: you can't define what that is, how can you have 245 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 7: confidence in anything else that they do? And unfortunately, the 246 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 7: governing bodies of our society, in the public service more generally, 247 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 7: is just infiltrated with these people that have been completely 248 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 7: taken over by this radical gender ideology and it's sending 249 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 7: them down all of these bizarre rabbit holes. 250 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: Well, we went to anacote last week to get some 251 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: sort of commentary on a male sexual predator who identifies 252 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: as female being housed with women in a Victorian prison. 253 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: No comment on that, and I think I can understand 254 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: why there was no comment on that. Hearing that answer today, 255 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: it is absolutely shocking. 256 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: It's not good enough. 257 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, I just want to get your 258 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: take on the story The Daily Telegraph had today on 259 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: Australian taxpayers funding a multi year project run by the 260 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: Chinese Communist Party to drive renewables uptake and improve air 261 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: quality in Shandong Province in eastern China. Australia is helping 262 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: to fund the six hundred million dollar project through it's 263 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: thirteen point five million dollars in contributions to the Asian 264 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: Development Banks Clean Energy Fund, which has put one point one. 265 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: Million dollars into the initiative. 266 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: DAN, why should a single Australian dollar go towards a 267 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: project like this? 268 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 7: Well, exactly right, and this is great reporting from Charlie 269 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 7: Chawick at the The Daily Telegraph to expose this. I mean, 270 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 7: what we need is an audit of all of this 271 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 7: money that's going overseas. I mean, we saw what happened 272 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 7: in the Trump administration with USAID and the kind of 273 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 7: ridiculous things that taxpayer money was going through there, and 274 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 7: I suspect we have a proper, full, transparent and audit 275 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 7: of where our money is going overseas that it would 276 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 7: show similar things as we're seeing now. And look, the 277 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 7: reality is that yes, foreign aid can play an important role, 278 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 7: but it needs to be in Australia's national interest, needs 279 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 7: to be safeguarding our national interests and the interest that 280 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 7: we have abroad, and plainly sending taxpayer dollars to China 281 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 7: for these kind of activities is well outside the scope 282 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 7: of any meaningful definition of what's in Australia's national interest. 283 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: Dan Wile, thank you for your time tonight. 284 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 8: Now. 285 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: Two years ago, Australians resoundingly rejected the Voice, despite being 286 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: told it was nothing more than a modest change to 287 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: the constitution. 288 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: Well, here in Victoria, we're about. 289 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: To get not only an Indigenous Voice to stay Parliament, 290 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: but also a treaty. This new Indigenous only body will 291 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: be funded by Victorian taxpayers, but it will not be 292 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: responsible or accountable to Victorian taxpayers or the Victorian Parliament. 293 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: And far from being a modest change, it is designed 294 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: to be radical in its ideology and influence. Joining me 295 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: now is barrister and member of the Victorian Bar Council, 296 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: Lana Claris. Lana, you wrote about the Voice and Treaty 297 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: in the Australian newspaper. 298 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: Explain to my audience why you say. 299 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: They should be deeply worried by this legislation. 300 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 10: Well, thank you for having me here, Rita. The first 301 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 10: point to make is that there are two aspects to 302 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 10: this legislation. The first is the Statewide Treaty Bill and 303 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 10: the second is the Statewide Treaty. So taking the bill 304 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 10: to begin with, whilst it's called a statewide Treaty Bill, 305 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 10: it is not in fact a treaty at all, because, 306 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 10: as we know, a treaty is an agreement between two 307 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 10: international states. So the first point is that this is 308 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 10: not an agreement, It is a piece of legislation. The 309 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 10: second point is that it is not an agreement between 310 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 10: two international states. So we need to put out of 311 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 10: our minds the fact that this bill is creating a treaty. 312 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: What in fact it is actually doing. 313 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 10: The bill itself is very similar to a found in constitution. 314 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: Wow. 315 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 10: So what this bill is actually doing is it is 316 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 10: seeking to establish a new government in our state, an 317 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 10: Indigenous only government. It establishes a legislature, which is the 318 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 10: first People's Assembly. It also establishes a justice Arm, and 319 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 10: it establishes a truth telling Arm. So that's why I 320 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 10: say we need to be deeply concerned about this, because 321 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 10: this bill is creating an entirely new government in our 322 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 10: state and indigenous, a race based government. 323 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and the notion of a treaty suggests there's some 324 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: negotiation between two parties. 325 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: There seems to be none of that. 326 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: It just seems to be a list of demands and 327 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: a whole lot of taxpayer dollars and powers being given 328 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: to this new body. 329 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 10: Well, absolutely, I think that Victorians are completely unaware of 330 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 10: what's going on. I think there have been some negotiations 331 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 10: going on, but in secret. There's no way the average 332 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 10: Victorian on the street would understand that this bill is 333 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 10: creating an entirely new race based body. 334 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: What are the checks and balances on the powers this 335 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: body will have? 336 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 10: Well, because essentially it is the creation of this new government, 337 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 10: it will be funded by us, by Victorian taxpayers. But 338 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 10: this new indigenous government will not be accountable to our 339 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 10: government in any way, and we don't get a vote 340 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 10: in relation to it either, So in other words, we're 341 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 10: paying for it, but if we don't like what it's doing, 342 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 10: we can't vote it out. Now, this violates the absolute 343 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 10: fundamental principle of the Westminster system, which is responsible in 344 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 10: accountable government. 345 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 4: It's astonishing. 346 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: How is it going to impact non Indigenous Victorians other 347 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: than the fact that we're paying for it and there's 348 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: no accountability. 349 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: But will they have a say in laws or. 350 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: Anything that's happening across the state that impacts non Indigenous 351 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: Victorians as well. 352 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 10: So the two aspects, taking the bill as the first aspect, 353 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 10: it is creating this new government, so that means everyday 354 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 10: Victorians are going to have to deal with two layers 355 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 10: of bureaucracy. And this is occurring at a time when 356 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 10: investment and business is fleeing our state because of increased taxes, 357 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 10: increase bureaucracy, you know, a cost of energy and all 358 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 10: these other factors. 359 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: This is the worst possible time. 360 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 10: To create a new government with an entirely new level 361 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 10: of red tape around it. But can I also say 362 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 10: that in relation to the second aspect, which is the 363 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 10: statewide Treaty, which is a separate thirty four thirty four 364 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 10: page document, and I note it is the first treaty, 365 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 10: so they've made it very clear that there's going to 366 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 10: be many, many more treaties. This is just the first one. 367 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 10: This will impact everyday Victorians because it requires, for example, 368 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 10: truth telling as part of our education system from what 369 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 10: they call foundation, which I believe is PREP, but it 370 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 10: could be before PREP all the way up until year twelve. 371 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 10: So our children are going to be taught truth telling. 372 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: And that's an interesting term I would use them. I 373 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: would use the bunny as as well, because it's someone 374 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: else's truth may be very different to the actual truth, 375 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: and that can't really be challenged in. 376 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: The way it's been prescribed. 377 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: You talk about these two layers of government, How will 378 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: new legislation be impacted by that? So if you're in 379 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 3: the Victorian Parliament, the one we all vote for, and 380 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: you want to introduce some new legislation, do you have 381 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 3: to get some sort of buying from the Indigenous Parliament 382 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: or at least get some sort of idea If they're 383 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: going to be approving of whatever it is you're proposing. 384 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 10: Yes, So any new bill that is introduced into Parliament 385 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 10: must they throughout the bill the mandatory terms such as 386 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 10: must so every new bill must have tabled with it 387 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 10: what is called a statement of treaty compatibility. 388 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: Statement of treaty compatibility. That is fascinating. So every new 389 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: bill must be compatible with the treaty and the ideology 390 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: behind that. And I noticed that too when you read 391 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 3: the document. It's all must must, It's the language. 392 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: Is very forceful. Indeed, it is so that is going 393 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: to impact every Victorian. 394 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: That's not just something that's going to impact indigenous Victorian. 395 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 396 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 10: I would just note as well, in relation to the 397 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 10: statement of treaty compatibility, this involves an element of compelled speech, 398 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 10: because if you have an elected representative who doesn't agree that, 399 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 10: for example, there are ongoing injustices as a result of colonization, 400 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 10: putting words into the mouths of our elected representative. This 401 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 10: is a form of compelled. 402 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: Speech, absolutely, and it is a document that is radical. 403 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: I think again Victorians. 404 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: Don't understand that because most of them don't have the 405 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: time to read the full document and the coverage of 406 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: it has been pretty scanned because the Liberals, though they 407 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: say they oppose it, they don't seem to be campaigning 408 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 3: on it. So there's not a great deal of debate 409 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: and analysis of this document. 410 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: But it is deeply radical in its language. It is. 411 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 3: The blackest band view of this country and its history 412 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 3: it is. 413 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 10: It will completely change the way the state will be governed. 414 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 10: As I said, two governments, separate layer of bureocracy. If 415 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 10: your audience is sick of acknowledgments of country, the separatism 416 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 10: is going to get so much more worse. It's going 417 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 10: to be much worse. There will be mandating flying of 418 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 10: Aboriginal and torrestrate islander flags on all Victorian government buildings, mandated, mandated, 419 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 10: It's part of the treaty. And so the current cohesion 420 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 10: split that we're seeing in our state at the moment 421 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 10: is only going to get so much worse. 422 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: And just before you go given the extraordinary power this 423 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: body is going to have and taxpayer funds, is there 424 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: going to be any scrutiny on who can participate, who 425 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: can be elected, Because even within the Indigenous community, there 426 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: is a fair bit of debate about people who identify 427 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 3: as Indigenous and they're not always accepted. 428 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: How is that going to be handled? 429 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 10: Well, this is one of the most shocking parts of 430 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 10: the bill. 431 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: I mean, it's all shocking. 432 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 10: But the First People's Assembly, which is essentially the legislature 433 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 10: of this new government, will have complete power over who 434 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 10: can vote for members of the First People's Assembly and 435 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 10: how the elections are to be conducted. So, if Victorians 436 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 10: are concerned about our indigenous brothers and sisters, which of 437 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 10: course we all are because we show an amazing amount 438 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 10: of goodwill towards the Indigenous community, this is not the 439 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 10: way to go about fixing it. This is a blueprint 440 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 10: for a one party social estate. Yeah, that will govern 441 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 10: our Indigenous Victorians. This is not going to help anything. 442 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: It's not going to help the Indigenous community and it 443 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: certainly isn't going. 444 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 4: To help Victoria. 445 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: The racial division this would inspire is just frightening. Lana Klaris, 446 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time to thank you 447 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: very much. Stelterkma left he is losing it. Plus the 448 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: latest from the US, including a fresh poll showing that 449 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has the steadiest approval rating of any president ever. 450 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 4: Mi Horowitz has the details. 451 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: You're watching the Riada panning your show, and it's time 452 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: for lefties losing it. Let's start with a young deranged 453 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: woman attacking conservatives David Cat and Cam Higbee and then 454 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: getting mace. 455 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: This is what is commonly a refre to us effing. 456 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: Around and finding out or just instant karma. 457 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 11: The whole Charlie, start, start, start. 458 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: And like any good left us, the cry bully ended 459 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: up acting like the victim when faced with the consequences 460 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: of her own actions. 461 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 4: You because you evil, You don't take videos, take all 462 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: you need. You're evil people that they're not question, Yes, 463 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 4: they're the evil ones. Lady. 464 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: Now to our favorite little climate change crazy doom goblin 465 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: turned anti Israel zealet, Greta Thunberg. 466 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 12: Hello, this is going to be a long video, but 467 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 12: I have a lot to say, so there with me. 468 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: No, no, no, nobody's got time for a long rant 469 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 3: from Greta. 470 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: I'd rather hear what President Trump has to say about 471 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 4: Sweden's worst export. 472 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 13: She's just a trouble maker, you know, I mean, you 473 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 13: mean she's no longer into the environment. 474 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 12: Now she's a trouble maker. 475 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: She is an anger management problem. I think she should 476 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: see a doctor. 477 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 12: She needs angry if you ever watch her, she's. 478 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: A young person. 479 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 12: She's so angry, she's so crazy. 480 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: No, you can have her. I couldn't have sent it 481 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: better myself. 482 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 3: And Donald Trump should know he is responsible for Greta's 483 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: finest moment. Remember when he ignored her at the un 484 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: during his first term. Look at that face. That was 485 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 3: the day she gave that derange how dare you speech? 486 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: Good times. Now, let's get a good old. 487 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 4: Fashioned dose of crazy from the Lady of the view. 488 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: Here is Joy Beha claiming Christinome, the Secretary of Homeland Security, 489 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 3: is targeting Bad Bunny because his Latino and then Whoopy 490 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: Goldberg helpfully recommends that. 491 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: Folks turn up to the super. 492 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: Bowl in brown face to confuse Ice agents. 493 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 14: Anyway, She's threatening to go to the super Bowl when 494 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 14: when Bad Bunny is there and round up all these 495 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 14: people that are illegal immigrants. 496 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: Do you think that. 497 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 14: She would go if it was god Brooks or Eminem 498 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 14: or Taylor Sweat for any other white leers. Understand what 499 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 14: you're saying, Because she's going to go to the super 500 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 14: Bowl and round up how she got to know who's who? 501 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 11: Everybody, get a little Cobba butter set in the Sun. 502 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: That's the first thing. And then and this is the only. 503 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 15: Time you can probably ever do this, give yourself a 504 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 15: Latin accident. 505 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: You know? 506 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 8: Whoop? 507 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 14: That such a good yeah, I'm seeing if she can 508 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 14: tell who true. 509 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: Even the dim witted view audience did not want to 510 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: clap that lunacy. As for the claim. 511 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 3: From Joy that Christinoam wouldn't be doing this if Garth Brooks, 512 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift or Eminem were performing, well, think again, lady. 513 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: All three are as left as bad bunny and judged accordingly. 514 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 4: It's the view that. 515 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: Seems to be obsessed by skin color, and these ladies 516 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: have become so desperate, so extreme, that they openly discuss 517 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: their wacko theories, including one where they say Trump's law 518 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: and order policies are really about a plot to end 519 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: elections or distract from Democrat Megadona Jeffrey Epstein. 520 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 14: This is a pretext to stop the next election. That's 521 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 14: what I think it. 522 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 7: I would say it might also be a distraction from 523 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 7: the hearing that's going on right now about the Epstein file. 524 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: Right some things have come up and a G. 525 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 6: Pam Bindi was judging questions and attacking back. 526 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: Whackerdoodles, all of them now to a woman whose politics 527 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: make her a perfect candidate for the view. Indeed, she's 528 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: so hard left she makes whoopee and joy look sane. 529 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: Here is MSNBC anchor Nicole Wallace, and let's be serious 530 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: here for a second. What you're about to see is 531 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: utterly appalling. This is misinformation and incitement dressed up as 532 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: news reporting what. 533 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 6: We're learning about the fire that destroyed the home of 534 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 6: a South Carolina Circuit Court judge who faced criticism from 535 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 6: Trump officials after ruling she meet against the Trump administration. 536 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 6: It comes amid a surge in hostility and threats against judges, 537 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 6: as well as criticism directly from the Trump administration, including 538 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 6: for Judge Goudstein. 539 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: Just absolutely reckless fake news because the pertinent information is 540 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: that fire was not arson. 541 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: But why let that get in the way of a narrative. 542 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: Let's bring in Mary mccaud to add to the hysteria. 543 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: She's pointing the finger at Donald Trump. 544 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: An alleging an act of possible to mixed domestic terrorism. 545 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 13: We've talked today already about crossing rubicons, right, and when 546 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 13: you're starting to attack judges because of their rulings. We're 547 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 13: in a very very dangerous position in this country, and 548 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 13: is it makes judges fearful, It makes prosecutors fearful, as 549 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 13: we know, it makes others in positions where they could 550 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 13: be criticized by Donald Trump fearful. And he needs to 551 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 13: know the power of his voice and how people respond 552 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 13: to that. We've been saying this for years, Nicole, But like, 553 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 13: if this is what this turns out to be, some 554 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 13: sort of politically motivated act of domestic terrorism, then the 555 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 13: importance and significance of the things that Donald Trump says 556 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 13: about a person, just again will be demonstrated in this instance. 557 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: Let's not forget it's the left that are killing and 558 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: trying to kill their political opponents, whether it's Charlie Kirk 559 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: or Donald Trump, or Supreme Court Justice Fret Kavanagh or 560 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: Republican Stephen Calice. Even in the cases where a Democrat 561 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: is attacked, it often turns out to be someone from 562 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: the left, like when Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's house was 563 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: set alight by a pro Palestinian activist. 564 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: Now, it's been a. 565 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: While since we've featured the asenine content of alleged comic 566 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: John Oliver here he is encouraging people to harass ICE agents. 567 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely love for that. 568 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: Woman said, I came to bother Ice because that seems 569 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: reasonable to me. If Ice can show up and bother 570 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: some guys at their roofing job, then bystanders should be 571 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: able to bother Ice at their state sanctioned kidnapping job. 572 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: It is only felt joining me now is filmmaker and 573 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: commentator Army Horowitz. Army ICE agents are having their lives threaten, 574 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: they are having to cover their faces to protect themselves 575 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: and their families. And we've got a comic, alleged comic 576 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: incur reaching lifters to confront and harass these agents doing 577 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: their job. 578 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 15: Yeah, Reid, the consent structure allowed by the mainstream media 579 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 15: is incredible and it's allowing for these attacks to happen. 580 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 581 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 15: There is a causal relationship between what is happening here. 582 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 15: When people look at celebrities, at the media, at people 583 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 15: they think are within the Overton window, and they hear 584 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 15: them speak like this, of course they're going to act 585 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 15: in that way. And in reality, what's happening with the 586 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 15: media is that they're actually shifting the open to window. 587 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 15: They're actually expanding it to allow for physical violence for politics. 588 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: That's exactly what we're seeing here. 589 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 15: Look, this is also with judges Kavanaugh. The person who 590 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 15: tried to kill Kavanaugh, right, the Supreme Court justice of 591 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 15: the United States, got sent to eight years in prison. 592 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 15: There's a couple of things that you get eight years 593 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 15: in prison for male fraud and securities fraud. It stays 594 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 15: typically gainst eight years in prison, not try to kill 595 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 15: a Supreme Court justice. And these ice attacks are happening 596 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 15: all across the country. Read that if you again indulge 597 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 15: me for another chapter of the World of cod a 598 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 15: chat GPT right. Sorry, I'm just I'm workshopping that name. 599 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 15: I'll come with a better one next week. But yes, 600 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 15: when I did my research, I asked chat GPT, I go, 601 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 15: how many attacks on ice agents have we seen in 602 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 15: twenty twenty five? That was what I asked it. And 603 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 15: then it said it listed three and I said, ah, 604 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 15: that does not sound right. 605 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: Three. 606 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 15: I said, well, I witnessed one personally in Los Angeles. 607 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 15: I said, Amy, why did you not mention attacks on 608 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 15: ice agents in Los Angeles? Chat GPT, You're right to 609 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 15: point that out. There actually was an attack lot Angelist 610 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 15: that I missed on my earlier list. 611 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? 612 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 15: And by the way, it wasn't four attacks. I looked 613 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 15: it up myself. There had been a seven hundred percent 614 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 15: increase on ICE attacks. From twenty twenty four to twenty 615 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 15: twenty five. There have been seventy nine attacks on ICE agents. 616 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 15: This is allowed in the left wing democratic consent structure. 617 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 15: This is what we're seeing here, okay, And this is 618 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 15: not new. We saw this in BLM when I was 619 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 15: a kid. The notion, the idea that you would put 620 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 15: forgetting when I was a kid five years ago, that 621 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 15: you would put a hand on a police officer, never 622 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 15: mind a federal official, was pure insanity. But then when 623 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 15: we allowed BLM riots to go on, and we allowed 624 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 15: them to light cop cars on fire. 625 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: This is the end result. This is what we're seeing now. 626 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: Naw me, This next bit of news will need to 627 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 3: come with a trigger warning for the left. But despite 628 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: the relentless bad media, Donald Trump has the steadiest approval 629 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: writing of any president on record, and would be re 630 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: elected today if an election were held. 631 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 4: Take it away, CNN. 632 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: Here's the thing to keep in mind. 633 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 16: This was good enough to get Trump reelected back in 634 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 16: twenty twenty four, and Donald Trump is basically at the 635 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 16: same point here right now, which I think would surprise 636 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 16: a lot of folks, especially a lot of folks on 637 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 16: the left, to very much disagree with a lot of 638 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 16: what Donald Trump has done. Is Trump doing what he 639 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 16: promised in the twenty twenty four campaign, Yes, fifty two percent, 640 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 16: the majority of Americans say that Donald Trump is doing 641 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 16: what he promised, compared to forty eight percent who said no. 642 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 16: So what essentially is going on here is the voters 643 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 16: expected all. 644 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: Of this from Donald Trump. 645 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 16: The majority did, and that is why his favorite ratings 646 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 16: simply has not really moved all that much compared to 647 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 16: where it was a year ago. Trump is basically doing 648 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 16: what the American people thought that he was going to do. 649 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: Indeed, if you look at the numbers, Trump. 650 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 16: Has basically the steadiest favorable rating this much through a 651 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 16: presidency of any president on record, and it's basically where 652 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 16: he was a year ago, good enough to get him reelected. 653 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: Ah me, that's all very interesting, But what do you 654 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: think is going to happen in the midterms? 655 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 15: Look traditional in midterms, the party in power loses seats 656 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 15: and the Democrats do whatever they can to make sure 657 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 15: that doesn't happen this time. The president won the election, right, 658 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 15: He won the election because of the two main issues, 659 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 15: the economy and illegal immigration. 660 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: Right, and what has he done well? 661 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 15: Illegal immigration is down, the illegal border crossings is down 662 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 15: over ninety percent this year, nine percent, nine zero percent. 663 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: That is an unbelievably incredibly high number. 664 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 15: Okay, And an inflation we're down this year forty two 665 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 15: percent from the three year average where inflation was three 666 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 15: years prior. Okay, that's why if the election was held today, 667 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 15: the president would win again. But it's not just the 668 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 15: President acting in. 669 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: A positive way. A lot of. 670 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 15: It is the Democrats acting in a negation and losing support, 671 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 15: which is the other side of the ledger. Look when 672 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 15: they continue to take the wrong side of eighty twenty issues. Right, 673 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 15: we talked about it before, We'll continue talking about. 674 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: It going forward. 675 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 15: When they are shutting down the government in now small 676 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 15: part because they want illegal aliens to get government funded healthcare, 677 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 15: that's a problem for your party. 678 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: When you're a party calling for cashless. 679 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 15: Bail allowing people who committed crimes back into the cities 680 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 15: to commit more crimes, that is a problem for your party. 681 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 15: So yeah, that's why you're seeing those numbers here. And 682 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 15: I'm not sure that the mid term election history will 683 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 15: repeat itself. 684 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 13: NA. 685 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 3: I mean President Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Connie 686 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: have met to negotiate a trade deal, and the President 687 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 3: had the room in stitches with this line. 688 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 15: He's a good man, he does a great job, but 689 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 15: he's a tough negotiator. 690 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: So then we'll plus holding things up. 691 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 17: If he's a great man and you want to do 692 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 17: a deal with Canada, why aren't you? 693 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: Because I want to be a great man too. Thank you, 694 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: Thank you. 695 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: I think you got that one. 696 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 17: Thank you. 697 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 3: And it was a loving with the Canadian Prime minister 698 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: calling Donald Trump a transformative president. 699 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 18: You kindly hosted me and some of my colleagues a 700 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 18: few months ago, and I said at the time, you 701 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 18: are a transformative president. And since then, Uh, the transformation 702 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 18: in the economy, unprecedented commitments of NATO partners to defense spending, 703 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 18: peace from India Pakistan through to Azerbaijan, Armenia, UH, disabling 704 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 18: I Ran is a force of terror. 705 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 1: UH. 706 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 18: And now and I'm running out of time, but this 707 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 18: is many respects. The most important uh Mergred of Canada. 708 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 18: I knew. 709 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: That wasn't where I was going. 710 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 18: I would know. But you know, on this, on this 711 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 18: solemn day of commemoration of the Octo October se horific 712 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 18: attacks of October seven, uh, for the first time in decades, 713 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 18: hundreds of years, thousands of years, this prospect of peace 714 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 18: that you've made possible. Canada stands four square behind those efforts, 715 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 18: and we'll do whatever we can to support n Yeah, 716 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 18: thank you. 717 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 4: Very much, Ahmi. 718 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 3: This was Mat Khannie's second visit to the Oval Office 719 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 3: ahead of next year's review of the United States Mexico 720 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: Canada Agreement. 721 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 4: The relations seemed to be very positive there. 722 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 15: Yeah, look what can I tell you? Can I you 723 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 15: a prime minister, welcome to the one eighty club, as 724 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 15: I call it, joining. 725 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: Merch from Germany. He a starmer of England. 726 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 15: Even crazy Lulu da Silva said he had a great 727 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 15: positive call with President Trump. 728 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 2: I think look he. 729 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 15: Did, Mark Quiy did a great job listing all or 730 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 15: just a number of his foreign policy accomplishments. Maybe he, 731 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 15: like others, maybe they smell a nobel peace price coming. 732 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 15: I want to get on that train as fast as possible. 733 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 15: These otienly are politicians, right, and when they see, particularly 734 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 15: when it comes to foreign policy arena, but also the 735 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 15: economic arena. 736 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: When they see the. 737 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 15: Success after success after success of the United States and 738 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 15: the foreign policy world and the leadership of Donald Trump. 739 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: I think they want to get aboard that. I think 740 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 2: they want to be part of that. 741 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 15: So yeah, I think I chalked that up to he 742 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 15: just following the line of success, and I think that's 743 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 15: where it leads us. 744 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: Na Ami. 745 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: This week we observe the second anniversary of the October 746 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: seven terrorist attacks. Sadly it coincided with more acts of 747 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: anti Semitism, including right here in Melbourne. 748 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 4: You travel extensively. 749 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 3: How fearful is the Jewish community in the West right now? 750 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: Fearful? 751 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 15: Look, the reality is is that there have been fear 752 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 15: in the Jewish community, attacks in the Jewish community, says 753 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 15: Jews first. 754 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: Walked this earth, right, That's the reality of the situation. 755 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 15: And obviously we are now in a particularly acute situation 756 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 15: across the globe, not just with our co religionists in Israel. 757 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 758 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 15: Look, we just had a series of holidays for Jews 759 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 15: around the world, right Russia, Chhana, you know, Kipper, we 760 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 15: call the High Holidays and It's very striking that. 761 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: And this is not new. It's been like this for many. 762 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 15: Years, that in order to go pray to God you 763 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 15: have to walk through levels of security at every single 764 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 15: synagogue that exists in the world. And I'm not talking 765 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 15: about just in Israel or even in Europe, but here 766 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 15: in the United States. Look for years, I did volunteer 767 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 15: security for my synagogue because it was necessary. It's part 768 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 15: of the line item expense. Synagogues have it's security. It's shameful. 769 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 15: It's sad that we have to live with this. 770 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 3: It is shameful on me and it's and it's evidence 771 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 3: right here in Australia. In a country like Australia, they're 772 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 3: so peaceful and prosperous and harmonious. You look at the 773 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 3: Jewish schools, the synagogues, the security they have is akin 774 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 3: to what you see at the airport. 775 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 4: Me Horowitz, thank you so much for your time tonight. 776 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 2: How was a pleasure? 777 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 3: Still to come, I'll speak to the man behind a 778 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 3: new groundbreaking documentary. 779 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 4: Caine goul Yelm joins me on the desk. Welcome back. 780 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 3: My next guest is the director of a new documentary 781 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 3: making its world premiere at the Byron Bay Film Festival 782 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 3: next week. 783 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 4: The documentary is called Wealth. Here's a snake peg. 784 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 17: My name is Kine gill yell me. I live in 785 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 17: a rural part of Australia on a small farm and 786 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 17: being the annoying overthinker that I am, I've been asking 787 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 17: myself why why aren't we happy? I look around and well, 788 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 17: can't help but think that society as a whole isn't 789 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 17: so I called some mates and grabbed a camera and 790 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 17: we hit the road. 791 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 12: What unaffordable housing is doing to kids is awful. It's 792 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 12: making them feel inadequate because they can't buy a house, 793 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 12: and it's left them feeling mentally deranged because they feel 794 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,479 Speaker 12: that they've done something wrong. 795 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 3: They haven't joining me now is director Caine gool yell me. 796 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 4: Cain. 797 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 3: Your documentary has received some high praise, including from President 798 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: Obama's production company, and is being considered for an actor. 799 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 4: What inspired you to make Commonwealth? 800 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 17: Well, Reta, I think it started really from a place 801 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 17: of frustration off the back of COVID. I guess I 802 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 17: came away thinking with a bit of a newfound perspective 803 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 17: on how the world functions, and it upset me quite frankly, 804 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 17: and it made me very concerned for the future of 805 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 17: my family, for my kids and fathers. But I felt 806 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 17: completely powerless on what to do. On one guy, I 807 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 17: grew up in Western Sydney, and what could I possibly do? 808 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 17: And well, I thought, well, I'm a writer, I'm a director. 809 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 17: I've only done network TV and movies. Maybe I could 810 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 17: do a documentary to explore what plausible alternatives exist to 811 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 17: the system in which we live in. 812 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about those plausible alternatives. You travel to 813 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: eight different countries and looked at alternative economic and political models. 814 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 4: What did you find? 815 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 17: I found? Honestly, I found a bit of hope because 816 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 17: coming ou out of COVID, I guess I had a 817 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 17: little bit of a bleak outlook for the future. 818 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, particularly being in Australia, we were particularly COVID crazy. 819 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 17: One Yea and my family we experienced it both in Italy. 820 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 17: We were living in Italy during twenty twenty and then 821 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 17: we came back thinking we were going to come back 822 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 17: to some kind of normality here and we went through 823 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 17: it all again. And so I guess going on this journey, 824 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 17: meeting and interviewing, you know, so many different people of 825 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 17: different lines of thinking, different backgrounds, religions and ideologies. I 826 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 17: guess one of the things that dawned on me is 827 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 17: that we do as humans have a lot in common, 828 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 17: and I think that sometimes media have been played a 829 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 17: role in creating a little bit more division and amplifying 830 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 17: things that. You know, if you actually sit down and 831 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 17: have a heart to heart conversation with someone more often 832 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 17: than not, I believe that you find some common humanity 833 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 17: amongst each other. And that was a huge takeaway from me. 834 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 17: In terms of the specific solutions and alternatives, I think 835 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 17: I'm going to let people see the film because otherwise 836 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 17: you've got no reason to see it exactly. 837 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 4: You don't give it away. 838 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 3: Normally with documentaries, you don't have that issue, there's no twist. 839 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 3: But you've certainly invested a great deal of time and 840 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 3: money in this. In the clip we showed, we're talking 841 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 3: about the struggles young people face trying to buy property, 842 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 3: and it's really a big issue in this country. As 843 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 3: we know, housing affordability is a huge problem. What do 844 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: you think are the long term impacts of that on 845 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 3: If you've got a generation who really don't have hopes 846 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 3: of owning a property. 847 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 17: Well, if nothing changes, the level of despair will only increase. 848 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 17: And that's a sad reality. Something has to change and 849 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 17: that's some of the things that we explore in the 850 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 17: film I find it. You know, just recently, just in 851 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 17: the past week, our Prime Minister put a clip on 852 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 17: social media, a ten second clip, try to sell five 853 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 17: percent mortgages to young people seeing Yeah, five percent deposits 854 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 17: for first home buyers. That's all you need to know. 855 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 17: That's a quote. All you need to know. You know, 856 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 17: it's like the guy is selling him. He thinks that 857 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 17: he's selling us beach arges for JB High a ten 858 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 17: second clip, you know, but he's selling, you know, a 859 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 17: lifetime of slavery to the becks. And that's not okay, 860 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 17: yeah it is. 861 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 4: It is. 862 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: It's sort of like a secondhand car salesman technique. 863 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 4: Isn't it. That's all you need to know? Sign up 864 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 4: five percent? 865 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 17: And as Tucker Carlson famously posts the question, I think 866 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 17: it was last year on his visit, how much do 867 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 17: you think that it might cost to buy a guy 868 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 17: like Albanisi? He said, And Tucker said, I think it 869 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 17: could be as little as the cost of a new Tesla. 870 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 4: I actually disagree with Tucker. 871 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 17: Because I think that you could buy him for the 872 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 17: cost of a used Tesla. 873 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 4: And you can get those cheap. 874 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: Now, you voluntarily exited talks with Netflix to have your 875 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 3: documentary featured there. That's quite a big decision to make. 876 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: He said it was a matter of principle because of 877 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 3: some of the content they've been pushing lately. 878 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 4: Just quickly tell me about that decision. 879 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 17: I mean, we've been in discussions with quite a few distributors, 880 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 17: Netflix being one of them. And yes, it has become 881 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 17: more obvious in recent weeks to me, I didn't realize 882 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 17: just to the extent of the sexualized and politicized content 883 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 17: that is on there, They're not the only ones that 884 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 17: are guilty of it. And yes, there had been some 885 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 17: conversations with quite high level executive in the US, and 886 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 17: I guess read it. Honestly, It's come a time in 887 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 17: my career where I feel like I have to put 888 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 17: my values and beliefs before my career, and I've been 889 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 17: guilty of doing the opposite for two and I draw 890 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 17: a line when you start engaging children in adult conversations, 891 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 17: and that's where it ends for me. So in terms 892 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 17: of a release, now I don't know what the plan is, 893 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 17: because I wouldn't be surprised if people try to distance 894 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 17: themselves for me for taking that position. 895 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 4: No, that's a brave stance to take. Kine Google yell 896 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 4: me thank you so much for your time tonight. 897 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 3: Thanks you, and that's it from me. Up next, it's Newsnight. 898 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eleven