Speaker 1: Live on Skyins Australia. This is to Nika de Georgio.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the program. Coming up tonight.
Speaker 3: A shocking terror attack on a synagogue Rocks Manchester in
Speaker 3: the UK. This should serve as a wake up call
Speaker 3: to us here in Australia. I'll speak with Liberal Senator
Speaker 3: just Center Nampajipper Price. Shortly New South Wales police launched
Speaker 3: legal action to block a planned pro Palestine protest at
Speaker 3: the Sydney Opera House. Six people, including Isis brides, have
Speaker 3: smuggled themselves out of Syria and returned to Australia.
Speaker 2: Labor is aware, so why the secrecy, And a.
Speaker 3: Day after the Coalition indicates it will revive its nuclear campaign,
Speaker 3: Labor rolls out the scare tactics already for first tonight.
Speaker 2: We knew it would happen, and it has.
Speaker 3: Jews have been murdered at their own place of worship.
Speaker 3: After two years of taunts, anti Semitic attacks, pro Palestine rallies,
Speaker 3: threats and intimidation or bobbing along festering, growing and growing,
Speaker 3: someone has actually gone and done it. On the holiest
Speaker 3: day on the Jewish calendar, Yom Kapoor two Jews murdered
Speaker 3: in cold blood in a terror attack on western soil.
Speaker 3: Well here it is, ladies and gentlemen, the globalize, the
Speaker 3: inter Fada, that anti Israel brigade preach week in, week out,
Speaker 3: that we hear it's happening in front of our very eyes.
Speaker 3: It's yet another day of thoughts and prayers and condolences
Speaker 3: to the community.
Speaker 2: Forget it.
Speaker 3: We're too late now, way too late. The horse has bolted.
Speaker 3: And the scary part is, don't think it can't happen here.
Speaker 3: In Manchester on Thursday morning local time, two people were
Speaker 3: killed when a car was driven into crowds at the
Speaker 3: Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation a gog. The victims were then
Speaker 3: stabbed to death. Here is how it unfolded and a warning.
Speaker 3: This vision is distressing.
Speaker 1: On release, their guns trained on the suspected attack.
Speaker 4: Bob.
Speaker 1: They tried to get members of the public away. Is
Speaker 1: it's school, they stubbed in. No, he's got a Bob.
Speaker 1: A victim of the attack lies on the floor.
Speaker 5: I'm John bars in a minute's past the bottom.
Speaker 1: When the attacker ignored their instructions, shoot him.
Speaker 3: The terrorist has been identified as g had Ol Charmi,
Speaker 3: a thirty five year old British citizen of Syrian descent.
Speaker 3: He was shot dead by police at the scene. UK
Speaker 3: police have now confirmed three people have been arrested and
Speaker 3: are being held on suspicion of commission, preparation and investigation.
Speaker 2: Of acts of terrorism.
Speaker 3: They are two men in their thirties and a woman
Speaker 3: in their sixties. And the saddest part of all this
Speaker 3: is are we even surprised that it's happened now?
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but I'm not.
Speaker 3: Hate has been allowed to fester in democratic nations around
Speaker 3: the world, and we certainly aren't immune. The West is
Speaker 3: losing the fight, and it sits at the feet of woeful,
Speaker 3: weak and incompetent leaders like Anthony Albanesi, like UK Prime
Speaker 3: Minister Kiir Stamer. When you demonize Israel, reward terror, turn
Speaker 3: a blind eye to hate on home soil, purely for politics,
Speaker 3: it creates the perfect.
Speaker 2: Environment for anti Semitism.
Speaker 3: This attack in Manchester is a consequence someone has taken
Speaker 3: it into their own hands. The world is a soup
Speaker 3: bowl of hate, entrenched in an ideology which has been
Speaker 3: thrust upon Western democracies under the guise of healthy and
Speaker 3: sustainable multiculturalism. Now we cannot sugarcoat this anymore because we
Speaker 3: are losing the battle. Jews have now been murdered in
Speaker 3: a place where they should feel the most safe.
Speaker 2: How many more warnings do our leaders need yet?
Speaker 3: A conger line of them fell over themselves at the
Speaker 3: United Nations two weeks ago and recognized Palestine, including Anthony
Speaker 3: Albanizi and who gave him and Kiir Stamer a pat
Speaker 3: on the back Humus, So again, are we really surprised
Speaker 3: at what has happened overnight? The haters have been emboldened
Speaker 3: and have been given a tick of approval.
Speaker 2: And again, don't.
Speaker 3: Think that this can't or won't happen here in Australia.
Speaker 3: The warnings are flashing right in front of us. Week in,
Speaker 3: week out. We are subjected to hateful anti Israel protests.
Speaker 3: Flags of terror groups are being waved in our streets.
Speaker 3: Hate preachers brag about being elated by the Hamas Terra attacks.
Speaker 3: The Australian and Israeli flags are set alight, a portrait
Speaker 3: of the Ayatollah of Iran is carried across the Harbor Bridge.
Speaker 2: Synagogues and businesses are torched.
Speaker 3: Iran is responsible for two of those attacks on home soil.
Speaker 3: Antisemitic slogans are graffitied on houses and businesses. Jews are
Speaker 3: intimidated day in day out. Nurses are filmed on camera
Speaker 3: allegedly saying they would kill Jewish patients. And now in
Speaker 3: Manchester it would appear someone has taken all of this
Speaker 3: a step further.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Last night here in Sydney, as this attack was unfolding,
Speaker 3: on the other side of the word world, the anti
Speaker 3: Israel mob were at it again. Hundreds took to the
Speaker 3: streets protesting against Greta Thunberg's flotilla being stopped by the IDF.
Speaker 3: They actually think that Greta and her merry band of
Speaker 3: followers are the real victims.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: This video was posted to social media by Stand for Palestine,
Speaker 3: a group established by his Butteria activists, a prescribed terror
Speaker 3: group in the UK. And now we're seeing activists wanting
Speaker 3: to hijack the Sydney Opera House for a second time
Speaker 3: to spread their message of hate and division.
Speaker 2: And they want to do this.
Speaker 3: On October twelve, five days after Jews pause to reflect
Speaker 3: on the second anniversary of the largest loss of life
Speaker 3: since the Holocaust, and I will have more to say
Speaker 3: about this planned protest later in the show, but I
Speaker 3: think the Opposition leader Susan Lee summed up the mood today.
Speaker 6: I just felt sick when I read through what had
Speaker 6: happened in the UK and the terror and the toxic
Speaker 6: hatred that underpins this hideous anti semitism. Now we do
Speaker 6: need to draw a line in the sand when it
Speaker 6: comes to the protests that we continue to see in
Speaker 6: this country that are at this point in time completely counterproductive.
Speaker 6: They do come from a position of division and hatred.
Speaker 3: We are literally watching our country fall apart, and the
Speaker 3: Manchester terror attack could not be a bigger warning. Now
Speaker 3: we can't hide away from the truth anymore. We have
Speaker 3: let some people into Western countries who have extremist values
Speaker 3: which are incompatible with a Western democracy. They hate us,
Speaker 3: they hate the West, they hate our values and what
Speaker 3: we stand for. And based on what we have witnessed
Speaker 3: here since October seven, twenty twenty three, the complete fraying
Speaker 3: and decay of our social fibers, I do not think
Speaker 3: we have control over the culture we are trying to
Speaker 3: create here anymore. Labour granted three thousand Gazans visitor visas
Speaker 3: last year with little to no security checks. Two weeks ago,
Speaker 3: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke had a private meet and
Speaker 3: greet at Sydney Airport with dozens of refugees from Gaza.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not suggesting anyone in this cohort is problematic. However,
Speaker 3: the question needs to be asked of all new arrivals
Speaker 3: into the country, what security checks have been carried out?
Speaker 3: And in the last hour we have just found out
Speaker 3: that six people, including ISIS brides, have smuggled themselves out
Speaker 3: of Syria and returned to Australia. The Herald's son is
Speaker 3: reporting that Labor is aware of the group, including some
Speaker 3: of the women's children, and after being processed by Lebanese
Speaker 3: agencies and comprehensive security checks and DNA testing by Australian agencies,
Speaker 3: they were issued passports. Well, who approved this and why
Speaker 3: was it kept secret? We should know if there are
Speaker 3: any risks, And look, Anthony Albanezi has been weak and
Speaker 3: merely mouthed from day one. Stand up and have some courage,
Speaker 3: Prime Minister. The global Interfarta is playing out in front
Speaker 3: of us. And if this terror attack in Manchester is
Speaker 3: not a big enough wake up call, I truly fear
Speaker 3: for this country. Joining me now for more on this
Speaker 3: is liberal Senator just into nampajimper Price. Senator, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for your time this evening. What warning does
Speaker 3: the Manchester terror attack send to Australia?
Speaker 7: Look, Danaka, what happened in Manchester, This devastating terror attack.
Speaker 7: It is a devastating reminder of what can happen when
Speaker 7: we tolerate hate, When our leaders tolerate hate in our country,
Speaker 7: is it.
Speaker 8: Leads to this, It leads to terror.
Speaker 7: Basically, we are silly if we think here in Australia
Speaker 7: that somehow this couldn't happen to us. I mean, we
Speaker 7: have already seen, you know, the firebombing of the synagogue
Speaker 7: in Melbourne and attacks on other Jewish businesses. But it
Speaker 7: is high time that our Prime Minister actually woke up
Speaker 7: to himself and decided that our Jewish community in Australia
Speaker 7: requires their human rights to be upheld, requires the opportunity
Speaker 7: to live in a country that is about ensuring that
Speaker 7: they are safe from terror, and that goes to the
Speaker 7: rest of our community as well to the broader community,
Speaker 7: the broader Australian community. And I suppose what I'd like
Speaker 7: to see is our Prime Minister and his government and
Speaker 7: further abroad, you know, all of those in leadership right
Speaker 7: across the country act with courage and some moral clarity
Speaker 7: about the anti Semitism that we know has spread like
Speaker 7: wildfire ever since the seventh of October twenty twenty three,
Speaker 7: ever since the first round of protests that took place
Speaker 7: not long after the seventh of October on the footsteps
Speaker 7: of the Opera House.
Speaker 8: Our primein is to fail. Then he has continued to
Speaker 8: fail along the way.
Speaker 7: And I'm sorry, but his words, he's merely mouthed words
Speaker 7: are just not are just not good enough now for
Speaker 7: what we're seeing escalate in other parts of the world.
Speaker 7: He was just in the UK himself, and of course
Speaker 7: he needs to take a stronger stance right here in
Speaker 7: Australia for the betterment of our community, our social cohesion,
Speaker 7: and for the Jewish community more particularly.
Speaker 3: Look, absolutely, he has been weak from day one and
Speaker 3: we are seeing this playing across our country right now.
Speaker 3: And as I said, just then, don't think that this
Speaker 3: can't happen here.
Speaker 2: And that is the scariest part out of all.
Speaker 3: Of this, and I think it really should serve as
Speaker 3: a warning to Australia. And the other thing is, Senator,
Speaker 3: I'm yet to see any of these pro Palestine protesters
Speaker 3: come out and support a plan for peace which was
Speaker 3: put forward by Donald Trump this week. I found it
Speaker 3: extraordinary the Prime Minister claimed that it was his recognition
Speaker 3: of Palestine that created a positive momentum for it. In
Speaker 3: the last few hours, the leader of Hamasa's military Win
Speaker 3: and Gaza has reportedly rejected the proposal.
Speaker 2: If that's the case, where does it leave this warp.
Speaker 8: Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 7: I mean the stupidity and thinking that, you know, the
Speaker 7: Prime Minister thinking that recognizing Palestine in statehood would somehow
Speaker 7: mean that all of a sudden.
Speaker 8: Harmas is going to behave as though they belong.
Speaker 7: To a state and act accordingly with international law is
Speaker 7: utterly ridiculous.
Speaker 8: But what our Prime minister did was.
Speaker 7: Emboldens to knuckle down and take the position that they
Speaker 7: want to take. I mean, obviously what they've done so
Speaker 7: far has worked for them. I mean it has ensured
Speaker 7: that this hatred has spread onto the streets of Western
Speaker 7: nations such as ours. It is seen leaders of Western
Speaker 7: nations recognize them in statehood, but it doesn't mean, it
Speaker 7: hasn't meant that they've then taken up what it means.
Speaker 8: You know, legitimate.
Speaker 7: Legitimacy is based on peace, it's based on accountability. And
Speaker 7: Hamas's yet to present themselves in any light, in any
Speaker 7: kind of light, in those terms, and they haven't. They
Speaker 7: failed to release the hostages obviously that they've held on too.
Speaker 8: So you know, it is ridiculous.
Speaker 7: For the Prime Minister to think that he has somehow
Speaker 7: contributed toward these peace negotiations. Clearly they're not listening to
Speaker 7: you now, Prime Minister. They only wanted to praise you
Speaker 7: when you did things that favored them and benefited them.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 7: But right now, obviously everybody is over this war in
Speaker 7: the Middle East. We know that the Israelis are They
Speaker 7: want their hostages home, and rightly so those hostages, it's
Speaker 7: been far too long. It should be at home with
Speaker 7: their families and Western nations the UN needs to do
Speaker 7: more in that vein to put pressure onto Humus. Humusk
Speaker 7: created this in the first place. They still have the power,
Speaker 7: control the power, but instead they think appeasement is going
Speaker 7: to bring about peace.
Speaker 8: Well we're not seeing that yet, are we.
Speaker 2: No, look at your spot on I just want to
Speaker 2: ask you another matter.
Speaker 3: It seems that the coalition will stick to a nuclear
Speaker 3: policy that was indicated this week by the Shadow Energy Minister,
Speaker 3: Dan Tee, and are you pleased to hear it?
Speaker 8: Look, I'm absolutely pleased to hear it.
Speaker 7: I mean, we have great unlocked resources in uranium here
Speaker 7: in our very own country, in our very own backyard.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: I recently had a.
Speaker 7: Meeting with Kiir Starmer's Foreign Trade Envoy member and he
Speaker 7: was talking to me about the fact that he thought, well,
Speaker 7: it's probably high time that Australia lifted our moratorium and
Speaker 7: had an actual debate on uclear because nations like the
Speaker 7: UK and America, as we know absolutely there is a
Speaker 7: renaissance happening in terms of nuclear power, as Dantean, our
Speaker 7: shadow Energy Minister, is highlighted, and we need to get
Speaker 7: on the front foot with this instead of finding ourselves
Speaker 7: going backward when it comes to energy policy in our country.
Speaker 7: And the fact that this government, the Labor government, Alberanezi's government,
Speaker 7: has ensured that our energy prices have skyrocketed, our energy
Speaker 7: is becoming more unreliable. But no, it's all about euclear
Speaker 7: and the best way forward. And I support this wholeheartedly.
Speaker 7: I always have, and I think Dantean's done a great
Speaker 7: job in lookoking out how the technology is advancing and
Speaker 7: how we need to get on board with that.
Speaker 8: It's common sense and we need to put.
Speaker 7: The ideology aside to all of this and invest in
Speaker 7: what we should be doing like other Western nations around
Speaker 7: the world.
Speaker 3: Look, I completely agree we need cheap, reliable energy because
Speaker 3: we're on a pathway where the lights are not going
Speaker 3: to be kept on in this country. So I applaud
Speaker 3: the coalition if they are indeed going to be adopting this.
Speaker 3: Before we let you go, Senator, I have to ask
Speaker 3: you about Susan Lee.
Speaker 2: Do you back her as leader?
Speaker 7: Look, I mean I support the leader. I respect the leader.
Speaker 7: This is her job, this is her role. She must
Speaker 7: be respected as the leader and what she's trying to
Speaker 7: do to lead the Liberal Party going forward. I hope
Speaker 7: that as a party we can stop the infighting and
Speaker 7: support one another and actually for well come up with
Speaker 7: some policies, because I think we've got a bit of
Speaker 7: a policy vacuum so that we can stamp our.
Speaker 8: Ground and we can draw a line in the sand.
Speaker 7: And we can say this is what we stand for,
Speaker 7: so the Australian people understand what it is we stand for.
Speaker 7: You know, as a backbencher, obviously there are issues that
Speaker 7: I am utterly passionate about that I will continue to
Speaker 7: fight for because I am about making sure that we
Speaker 7: are listening to the Australian people, to the quiet Australians
Speaker 7: who have felt like they've largely been ignored. And it
Speaker 7: is our roleage in every one of us who are
Speaker 7: elected to Parliament by the Australian people, to do so.
Speaker 7: But I do hope that we can come up with
Speaker 7: some great policies that we can all get behind, so
Speaker 7: that we can demonstrate that we are a strong opposition
Speaker 7: because our country needs that desperately right now.
Speaker 8: Australians are calling out for it.
Speaker 3: I completely agree, absolutely just into napajimber Price. Really appreciate
Speaker 3: your time. Thank you so much for joining me on
Speaker 3: the show this evening.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Deneka.
Speaker 3: Well let's return now to the Manchester terror attack. Here
Speaker 3: was the UK Prime Minister Kia Stamer's response.
Speaker 9: To every Jewish person in this country. I also want
Speaker 9: to say this, I know how much fear you will
Speaker 9: be holding inside of you. I really do. I express
Speaker 9: my solidarity but also my sadness that you still have
Speaker 9: to live with these fears. Nobody should have to do that.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Reform.
Speaker 3: UK Counselor for County Durham, Darren Grimes. Darren, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for joining me. Look, you know you're Prime
Speaker 3: Minister just recognized Palestine. He's demonized Israel for the past
Speaker 3: two years and has shown incredibly weak leadership and now
Speaker 3: he claims he knows how much fear Jews in the
Speaker 3: UK must have.
Speaker 2: What do you make of his response to this attack?
Speaker 5: Well, I think Danika that actually those words run about
Speaker 5: as hollow as skull does.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 5: This is a man who has spent the last two
Speaker 5: years totally demonize in Israel to try and appease his
Speaker 5: backbenchers who are like a baying mob towards the Jews
Speaker 5: in Israel, and of course to his party membership, which
Speaker 5: are somewhere to the left of I don't know the
Speaker 5: politics of Jeremy Corbyn, so recognize in Palestine. Actually, in
Speaker 5: my view, were saying to the terrorists that actually they
Speaker 5: got what they want. They basically are having October seven's
Speaker 5: actions endorsed and appeasing the very movement that actually fuel
Speaker 5: the hatred of Jews that culminates in the attack on
Speaker 5: the synagogue yesterday. He tells the Jewish community here that
Speaker 5: he knows their fear, but actually, Danika, I would argue
Speaker 5: that it's his weakness that has helped exacerbate and ferment
Speaker 5: that fear. I'm thirty two years old, I'm not Jewish,
Speaker 5: but i feel, Dnika, like I've watched my country be
Speaker 5: dismantled and replaced with something utterly foreign. You know, Jewish
Speaker 5: schools and synagogues in Britain now need permanent security as
Speaker 5: if we're in a war zone and not the state
Speaker 5: of Israel. It isn't leadership. It's a total and a
Speaker 5: cultural surrender, and it sickens me to the very core
Speaker 5: of my being.
Speaker 3: Look you're not wrong, and I'm afraid it's happening over
Speaker 3: here in Australia too, Darren. And look I've got to
Speaker 3: show you this because hours after the attack, pro Palestine
Speaker 3: protesters descended on Whitehall.
Speaker 1: Darren.
Speaker 3: They think that Greta and her Mary band of followers
Speaker 3: are the real victims on a day that Jews are
Speaker 3: slaughtered in their place of worship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, you put it very well there. I mean, look,
Speaker 5: it's the double standards. We're told that the so called
Speaker 5: far right are the big threat. You know Apple TV.
Speaker 5: I note in their big drama slow Horses have a
Speaker 5: far right threat shooting to death a poor Muslim mayer.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is just all it's grotesque, the distortion
Speaker 5: of reality within the position that we're in in the West.
Speaker 5: You know, more than two thousand arrests have come from
Speaker 5: gaza based protests. But if a far right thug right
Speaker 5: Danika had stormed a Manchester mosque and slaughtered the worship
Speaker 5: as God forbid, do you really think the police would
Speaker 5: be green light and marches from those kinds of activists
Speaker 5: on the very same day. There ain't a chance. There's
Speaker 5: not a cat and chance. Hell, because it's Labour's chosen
Speaker 5: mobs right, they get a free pass because of the
Speaker 5: cause of which they are standing. And I find it
Speaker 5: utterly morally reprehensible. It's an act of political cowardice. And
Speaker 5: the Labor mayors in both Manchester, Andy Burnham and Sadiq
Speaker 5: Khan in London, I think have shown themselves for the weak,
Speaker 5: tiny little men that they are. Shame on them, Danika,
Speaker 5: because it's shames Britain, not just here but on the
Speaker 5: international stage.
Speaker 11: Two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look you're at your spot on. Now look before
Speaker 2: we let you go.
Speaker 3: Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has taken a swipe at
Speaker 3: our Prime Minister Anthony Aberesi after he failed to meet
Speaker 3: him on his recent tour of the UK. Now you
Speaker 3: recall that Albo addressed the UK Labor Party conference last
Speaker 3: week where he accused Reform.
Speaker 2: Of dividing people Darren.
Speaker 3: Nigel Farage says that Anthony Aberenese has failed to recognize
Speaker 3: the current shift in political sentiment across the West.
Speaker 2: He's not wrong, is he?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not. Nigel's absolutely spot on. You know, leaders like Alberzi, Starmer, Trudeau, Biden.
Speaker 5: You know there, I just want to break out in
Speaker 5: a sort of rendition of YMCA, you know, because it's
Speaker 5: that sort of progres aggressive politics. They all sing from
Speaker 5: the same hymnsheet, Daneeka. They sneer at so called populism.
Speaker 5: They accuse us of dividing people, which is incredibly hypocritical
Speaker 5: given with the kinds of things that they parrot on
Speaker 5: a daily basis. But they refuse to actually face the truth,
Speaker 5: and the truth is very simple ordinary men and ordinary
Speaker 5: women across the West. They're sick of mass migration. They're
Speaker 5: sick of the threat to themselves and the children. They're
Speaker 5: sick of the Green zealotry making their lives colder and poorer.
Speaker 5: They're sick of being told that their own culture and
Speaker 5: the generations of their ancestors who've fought and fermented said culture,
Speaker 5: are uddly worthless. The political whether it's shifting very very
Speaker 5: fast indeed, but the Left are stuck in their university
Speaker 5: seminar rooms and they just simply do not get it.
Speaker 5: They're about to be swallowed up by it, though, And
Speaker 5: we don't want the scenes, Daneeka. I would just finish
Speaker 5: with the scenes like those a couple of years back
Speaker 5: calling for horrific acts against Jews outside of the Sydney
Speaker 5: Opera house. We don't want to see terror attacks on
Speaker 5: the streets and synagogues of Britain. And I suggest that
Speaker 5: we use arrogant Albanesi and his progressive prats as fuel
Speaker 5: for our fights. You know, our version of patriotism, our
Speaker 5: version of national renewal, will have to be bold, We'll
Speaker 5: have to be unashamed. We've got to be actually rooted
Speaker 5: in a belief in who we are, our history, and
Speaker 5: confident in our self defense because this isn't someone else's war,
Speaker 5: This isn't just Israel's war, Danika, this is our war
Speaker 5: taking place on the streets of Australia and the United Kingdom.
Speaker 3: Absolutely spot on, and Israel is fighting terror for the West,
Speaker 3: not just fighting for their own survival, for all of us.
Speaker 3: And what a shame and what a blight on leaders
Speaker 3: like Anthony Abernese and Kirstama that they are so blind
Speaker 3: to see what's going on. Darren Grimes, great to see you,
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for joining me on show this evening.
Speaker 5: Always a pleasure to think. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, New South Wales Police will
Speaker 2: welcome back.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is New South Wales Independent MP Tanya
Speaker 3: Mahlik and former New South Wales Police Minister David Elliot.
Speaker 2: Height to both of you. Thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 3: As always, I want to start with your reactions to
Speaker 3: that horrific terror attack on a synagogue in Manchester. What
Speaker 3: warning do you think, Tanya, does it serve for Australia.
Speaker 11: Well, Australia needs to make sure that we don't become
Speaker 11: lax in the way that we monitor these organizations and
Speaker 11: these people.
Speaker 12: My cot soon for what's happened in the.
Speaker 11: UK is that political cowardice has led to complacency too much.
Speaker 11: PC concerns there have led to the UK government not
Speaker 11: being on top of the various different organizations they need
Speaker 11: to monitor and the people they need to monitor.
Speaker 12: And Australia needs to learn that too. You can't become.
Speaker 11: Laxed and relaxed about potential acts of terror.
Speaker 12: You absolutely can't be.
Speaker 11: You've got to use your telecommunications powers, you've got to
Speaker 11: use the digital electronic powers, and you've got to monitor people,
Speaker 11: and you've got to monitor organizations. You can't tell me
Speaker 11: that these people don't plan these attacks. They do, and
Speaker 11: somebody knows about these types of attacks, and they're not
Speaker 11: informing the police like they should be in Australia needs
Speaker 11: to absolutely be alert and watch this space.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 3: I agree, but my concern David is you know we
Speaker 3: have seen a lot of antisemity. It's been festering now
Speaker 3: for two years.
Speaker 2: Don't say that this can't happen here. I mean it
Speaker 2: just took.
Speaker 3: One person over there, one person to just go for
Speaker 3: it and take matters into their.
Speaker 13: Own hands and that's right, and Tanya's right. I mean
Speaker 13: this is proof positive that we cannot downgrade our security ratings.
Speaker 13: We cannot just become intolerant because it's politically incorrect to
Speaker 13: say that we have a higher level of a security
Speaker 13: rating here or in the United Kingdom. I think the
Speaker 13: intelligence genesies need to come solid, need to come out
Speaker 13: and say if this bloke was on their radar, because
Speaker 13: if it wasn't on their radar, well then the community
Speaker 13: needs to know that we really do have to be
Speaker 13: prepared for radicalization from nowhere. And if this guy wasn't
Speaker 13: on their radar, it's proof again that you can be
Speaker 13: radicalized overnight, normally on the Internet and they'll do a job.
Speaker 3: Look, I completely agree with you, and look, you obviously
Speaker 3: have faith in our own counter terrorism operations.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that that they're on top of it. But
Speaker 2: it is a worry now.
Speaker 3: Look, the New South Wales Police will lodge a Supreme
Speaker 3: Court bid to block a pro Palestine protest at the
Speaker 3: Sydney Opera House in October twelve if the protester has
Speaker 3: refused to accept an alternate route.
Speaker 14: There's heightened public emotions around this and we understand it
Speaker 14: We're not anti protest. We facilitate thousands of protests, and
Speaker 14: in fact, with this particular group, we've been facilitating protests
Speaker 14: and public assemblies for the last two years. So it's
Speaker 14: not a matter of us not wanting them to have
Speaker 14: a public asas it's not even a matter about it
Speaker 14: being at the Opera House itself. It's about public safety.
Speaker 10: They'll make the decision based on public safety grounds. I'm
Speaker 10: not going to offer public commentary before they've spoken, if
Speaker 10: for no other reason that I don't want to draw
Speaker 10: attention to the organizers that seem to thrive on the
Speaker 10: notoriety of it all.
Speaker 3: Look, you know, at what point do we say enough
Speaker 3: is enough? Okay, Tanya? Yes, we live in a democratic country. Yes,
Speaker 3: of course that means we have a right to protest.
Speaker 3: But there is deep seated divisions at these protests that
Speaker 3: we're seeing week in week out, and we know exactly
Speaker 3: what happened last time at the Sydney Opera House a
Speaker 3: few days after October seven.
Speaker 11: Oh Look, and can I just firstly start, well done
Speaker 11: to pen McKenna.
Speaker 12: That was a very good press conference city. I'm tooked today.
Speaker 11: I made it very clear the police have real concerns
Speaker 11: about the public safety and the amenity of Opera House
Speaker 11: being used as a protest site. The common sense should prevail.
Speaker 11: The group now know that there is an alternative. The
Speaker 11: police have offered them an alternative. If they don't accept
Speaker 11: the alternative route, then it tells you that there's a
Speaker 11: reckless indifference about Australian institutions, as a reckless indifference about
Speaker 11: Australian democracy and a reckless indifference about Australian way of life,
Speaker 11: because that's what this group's about. This is a group
Speaker 11: that's based on anarchy. It's about protests for protests sake,
Speaker 11: and I think Australians have had enough. The police are
Speaker 11: doing everything they can in fairness, So it's the government
Speaker 11: I think. I think Chris means is I think opposed.
Speaker 2: He were very good on this matter from the.
Speaker 12: Caucus, isn't He's got a large proportion of caucus.
Speaker 11: Who actually attended the Harbor Bridge protest last time. But nevertheless,
Speaker 11: he himself has been good on this issue, as have
Speaker 11: the police.
Speaker 12: There is an.
Speaker 11: Alternative route available. What are the protests is going to do?
Speaker 11: And if they don't take that up, it's then we're
Speaker 11: clear as day Australians need to wake up. This isn't
Speaker 11: about the issue at hand, It's about just simply devaluing
Speaker 11: Australia's way of life.
Speaker 3: I mean, and that is loud and clear that our
Speaker 3: values have been eroded since, particularly since October seven. And
Speaker 3: that goes without saying. Now you're a former minister of
Speaker 3: course here in New South Wales there are now suggestions
Speaker 3: that perhaps laws need to be changed, David stop protesters
Speaker 3: from using iconic landmarks like the Sydney Opera House for
Speaker 3: their protests.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? Is that a solution?
Speaker 13: I think we have to because the court has clearly
Speaker 13: said that they're contemptuous of the government and the police
Speaker 13: will and despite the fact the police have a very
Speaker 13: very solid safety message that is that they underestimated the
Speaker 13: numbers on the Harvard Bridge a couple of months ago
Speaker 13: and now they need even more support.
Speaker 2: And the Premier.
Speaker 13: Probably my only criticism of the premieer is he should
Speaker 13: have called out today that there will be a change
Speaker 13: in the Act will that will give the police the
Speaker 13: power to say it's not going to happen, because at
Speaker 13: the end of the day, it is a safety sue. However,
Speaker 13: having said all of that. There's a moral dilemmit here
Speaker 13: as well. I mean, if I was a Palestinian or
Speaker 13: a pro Palestinian protester, I'd be keeping the aiversary of
Speaker 13: October seven a very low key.
Speaker 8: Ev they did last time.
Speaker 2: I think that this is.
Speaker 13: Something worth celebrating, and waving a flower over is just sickening.
Speaker 13: So I think there is there's a moral message to
Speaker 13: be getting to be sent out from government as well.
Speaker 3: Now look, I'm with you all the way, and I
Speaker 3: just want to learn our viewers that there will be
Speaker 3: a special documentary investigating the rise of anti Semitism here
Speaker 3: on Sky News Australia on Wednesday, October eighth at seven
Speaker 3: thirty pm, so you won't want to miss that one.
Speaker 3: Now earlier I spoke about this. In the last hour,
Speaker 3: we've just found out that six people, including ISIS brides,
Speaker 3: have smuggled themselves out of Syria and returned to Australia.
Speaker 3: The Herald son is reporting Labor is aware of the group,
Speaker 3: including some of the women's children. After being processed by
Speaker 3: Lebanese agencies and comprehensive security checks and DNA testing by
Speaker 3: Australian agencies, they were issued passports David, you were the
Speaker 3: state's first counter terrorism minister. Does this pass the pub test?
Speaker 3: How does this happen first? So that they come here,
Speaker 3: we are in secret, we know nothing about them. Apparently
Speaker 3: they've had security checks.
Speaker 2: Does that stack up well?
Speaker 13: I'd like to see the security checks because at the
Speaker 13: end of the day when I was the minis of
Speaker 13: a counter terrorism the major concern was that they had
Speaker 13: not been deradicalized when they returned to Australia. And what
Speaker 13: we've seen in Manchester is somebody who came out from
Speaker 13: nowhere to create an horrific act, to undertake a horrific act,
Speaker 13: and there's no guarantee that somebody has come from the
Speaker 13: type of background that they've lived in in Syria, that
Speaker 13: they're not sleepers from one of the better word and
Speaker 13: the concern, of course is that they will go and
Speaker 13: live amongst the very communities that they've been at war
Speaker 13: with in the Middle East. And I think this really
Speaker 13: should be a line in the sand for the Australian
Speaker 13: intelligence agencies and law enforcements agencies. They really do need
Speaker 13: to say to government we need the political air crve,
Speaker 13: but to change the rules to prevent this from occurring.
Speaker 11: Look, absolutely the governments will for the change data, which
Speaker 11: I don't think it is. I think the government's welcoming
Speaker 11: these women back.
Speaker 12: That's the problem.
Speaker 11: I mean, these women willingly became Isis brides. I just
Speaker 11: cannot believe that there's even a thought bubble out there
Speaker 11: that we would bring them back into Australia. They are indoctrinated,
Speaker 11: they're completely in my.
Speaker 12: View, you can't save these people.
Speaker 11: And the idea that they're coming back into Australia, why
Speaker 11: because we're going to put the tax bill, aren't we
Speaker 11: We're going to pay for the health, wealth needs, their
Speaker 11: eddication needs, their housing needs. This is absurd and David's
Speaker 11: right the safety issue as well. You've got the Australian
Speaker 11: Assyrian Christian community who have escaped from Syria to get
Speaker 11: away from ISIS, who will now be forced to live
Speaker 11: amongst these people.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, urrageous they've gone over there on this
Speaker 3: Gehardi romance, and you know what, we're just supposed to
Speaker 3: just welcome them back.
Speaker 2: With open arms. You know, give me a breaking seriously,
Speaker 2: Tanyam Haylock, David Eli, we've got to leave it there.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much as always for joining me. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Stay with us.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, I'll catch up with Stephanie
Speaker 3: Bastian Women's Form Australia, following just Into Alan's shopping response
Speaker 3: to a male prisoner housed in a female jail.
Speaker 2: That's next.
Speaker 3: Well, we live in a strange country where women in
Speaker 3: leadership roles don't know what a woman is and would
Speaker 3: rather portray the rights of women in favor of warped
Speaker 3: gender ideology. Yesterday, Victorian Premier just Into Alan came out
Speaker 3: of hiding and refused to comment on the case of
Speaker 3: a male sex offender who raped his own daughter and
Speaker 3: is now being housed in a women's only prison because
Speaker 3: he now identifies as a woman.
Speaker 15: And I'm just not going to comment on individual cases
Speaker 15: because that would then infer, that would then infer. But no,
Speaker 15: but I think more generally, again, it's difficult to make
Speaker 15: general comments that wouldn't then reflect on this particular set
Speaker 15: of individual circumstances because they are particularly unique.
Speaker 3: Head of Advocacy at Women's Forum Australia, Stephanie Bastian rites
Speaker 3: in The Australian today, when we allow corrections policy and
Speaker 3: our laws to be dictated by activists it is women
Speaker 3: and children that bear the heaviest burden of harm. And
Speaker 3: Stephanie joins me. Now, thank you very much for your
Speaker 3: time this evening. Look, you raise a very good point
Speaker 3: here because we have female activists like just Center Alan
Speaker 3: in charge who were more intent on actually protecting the
Speaker 3: rights of a very small percentage of the population than
Speaker 3: every woman in her state.
Speaker 16: Well, good evening, Denika, great to join you, and can
Speaker 16: I also just thank you quickly for your interview last
Speaker 16: week with Rachel Wall and kicking off this very important
Speaker 16: national debate with James McPherson. Jasiner Allen has shown appalling
Speaker 16: leadership this week. I don't know how she can have
Speaker 16: the faith in corrections Victoria.
Speaker 8: I mean, in.
Speaker 16: Twenty twenty two they fit to place a male rapist
Speaker 16: back in prison for assaulting a woman in the female prison.
Speaker 16: They've got no judgment whatsoever. And I spoke to a
Speaker 16: source who works within the prison recently who advised me
Speaker 16: that when males are looking to transfer into female prisons,
Speaker 16: they put the women into lockdown. This is a horrendous
Speaker 16: breach of human rights in the way that they are
Speaker 16: handling these cases is appalling. So I think that we
Speaker 16: need to ensure that she is held accountable, that we
Speaker 16: don't stop pushing the buck until she comes to the
Speaker 16: table on this, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 16: very vulnerable women in prison are the most at risk
Speaker 16: of harm.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And look, there's an overarching issue in Australia, isn't there.
Speaker 3: It involves a Sex Discrimination Act, which was of course amended.
Speaker 2: By Julia Gillard.
Speaker 3: The definitions of sex man and woman were removed. So
Speaker 3: everything that we're actually seeing playing out in Victoria right
Speaker 3: now and other parts of the country for that matter,
Speaker 3: is okay because the law says it is steph. We
Speaker 3: don't know what a woman is.
Speaker 16: That's right, and I think amending the Sex Discrimination Act
Speaker 16: is a step in the right direction. But we've got
Speaker 16: state legislation also compounding these issues. We've got guidelines, We've
Speaker 16: got a useless Sex Discrimination Commissioner who doesn't know the
Speaker 16: difference between men and women, male and female. So I
Speaker 16: think the whole system needs an overhaul. I like to
Speaker 16: see a commitment from the opposition to investigate, to review
Speaker 16: this whole process as an election commitment, and to make
Speaker 16: some changes to bring Australia back to biological reality. It's
Speaker 16: happened in the UK, it's happened in the US. Even
Speaker 16: New Zealand have dropped certain guidelines to do with sport
Speaker 16: and their Health department towards biological reality. But once again
Speaker 16: Australia is in the back order doing absolutely nothing to
Speaker 16: the detriment of women.
Speaker 3: Whether I think just where the laughing stock now of
Speaker 3: the world, Like, we've just reached that point. And I
Speaker 3: just want to ask you quickly about the Victorian Premier
Speaker 3: yesterday when she was asked about this case. She's said
Speaker 3: that she can't comment it's too unique of an issue.
Speaker 2: What sort of an excuse is that?
Speaker 8: It's not an excuse. This is a black and white issue.
Speaker 16: We are talking about biological men being in female prisons.
Speaker 16: If there are men who are in a vulnerable situation
Speaker 16: within the prison, that is a issue for the male
Speaker 16: prison system.
Speaker 8: Of course they should be put into.
Speaker 16: Their own so that they are kept safe and so
Speaker 16: on so forth. But this is not a female issue prison.
Speaker 16: It is not up to female prisoners, who often come
Speaker 16: from backgrounds of trauma and abuse themselves, to somehow bear
Speaker 16: the brunt.
Speaker 8: Of this issue. It's just not an excuse at all.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. But the problem is here in Australia.
Speaker 2: What is a woman?
Speaker 3: We just don't know where. It is an absolute laugh,
Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian.
Speaker 2: We have to leave it there. Good to see you.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 3: Pleasure Well, it didn't take long for Labor to revive
Speaker 3: its childish and immature nuclear energy scare campaigns again. A
Speaker 3: day after the Coalition indicated it would likely stick to
Speaker 3: a nuclear energy policy aka a policy for cheap reliable
Speaker 3: energy to keep the lights on in this country and
Speaker 3: get us off this renewables only magic carpet ride, the
Speaker 3: Energy Minister was up to his old tricks again, posting
Speaker 3: this picture to Instagram with the caption it may not
Speaker 3: yet be Halloween, but this is the scariest film in town.
Speaker 3: It's scary because it shows the coalition still doesn't get it.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is nuclear for Australia. Founder Will shackle Well,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining me. So look that they're back already
Speaker 3: the scare campaigns and the Coalition has not even yet
Speaker 3: unveiled a policy.
Speaker 17: Look it's concerning how Energy Minister doesn't realize that that
Speaker 17: cooling tower is not actually a nuclear reactor. I find
Speaker 17: it really concerning that the Labor Party is doubling down
Speaker 17: on this because when you look around the world, the
Speaker 17: UK and the US are committed to quadrupling nuclear power.
Speaker 17: India is planning to increase their nuclear capacity tenfold by
Speaker 17: twenty forty seven, and China is announcing basically ten reactors
Speaker 17: every single year. So the rest of the world is
Speaker 17: moving ahead on this. They realize that nuclear is needed
Speaker 17: for affordable, reliable, abundant clean energy, and it's time that
Speaker 17: the Labor Party realize that.
Speaker 3: Look, absolutely, and I'm sure before too long we'll be
Speaker 3: seeing the three headed animal pictures being rolled out. And
Speaker 3: this is why we just can't have a proper debate
Speaker 3: about energy in this country because of nonsense life that Now. Look,
Speaker 3: the Opposition energy spokesman Dan teen has returned from a
Speaker 3: fact finding mission to the US and he said that
Speaker 3: there is overwhelming agreement on the coalition side that it
Speaker 3: needs to be part of the energy mix by nuclear. Well,
Speaker 3: I have to ask you, do the Opposition really need
Speaker 3: to go to the US just to find that out
Speaker 3: about nuclear and then spend months trying to figure out
Speaker 3: an energy policy.
Speaker 17: Well, look, the facts about nuclear very very clear, and
Speaker 17: I think it is encouraging that the Coalition is still
Speaker 17: committed to nuclear power because it is needed in our mix.
Speaker 17: I honestly wish though, that Labor politicians did the same
Speaker 17: thing and went overseas looked at nuclear power plants with
Speaker 17: their own eyes. They are four hundred and forty operable
Speaker 17: nuclear reactors around the world. This is something that is
Speaker 17: proven globally, so I really wish that they took a
Speaker 17: leaf out of the coalition's book right now and how
Speaker 17: to look at it. Because there is precedent for bipartisanship
Speaker 17: on nuclear power. The UK Labor Party is one of
Speaker 17: the biggest supporters of nuclear around the world, and the
Speaker 17: Democrats are also supportive of it. So obviously we would
Speaker 17: like to see the Coalition push forward ahead with their policy.
Speaker 17: There are positive indications coming from danteen at the moment,
Speaker 17: but at the end of the day, we need bipartisanship
Speaker 17: on nuclear power and it is not a hard ask.
Speaker 2: Well, look, you know, hopefully we get to that point.
Speaker 3: It's just we don't know with Labor on this one
Speaker 3: way ticket to renewables fantasy.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting will because Labor is.
Speaker 3: Out claiming that voters backed in their renewables only plan
Speaker 3: and they say well, this is why we were overwhelmingly
Speaker 3: elected at the last election. But you know, well, if
Speaker 3: we cast our minds back, the Coalition I don't think
Speaker 3: really prosecuted nuclear particularly towards the end. They really shied
Speaker 3: away from it. But in your view, what part of
Speaker 3: that policy would need to be changed or executed differently
Speaker 3: to take a full proof plan on nuclear to the
Speaker 3: next election.
Speaker 17: Well, look, if the public didn't support nuclear power, you
Speaker 17: would expect it to have been seeing it in the
Speaker 17: sights of the opposed nuclear power plants, but in reality
Speaker 17: none of them actually changed hands. That was despite over
Speaker 17: three million dollars being spent by anti nuclear groups across
Speaker 17: the country on an anti nuclear disinformation campaign. I think
Speaker 17: for the coalition they need to be keeping all options
Speaker 17: on the table, looking at the vast array of nuclear technologies,
Speaker 17: whether it's microreactors, small modular reactors, large nuclear reactors as
Speaker 17: we see around the world. But at the end of
Speaker 17: the day, the biggest priority must be lifting the nuclear
Speaker 17: power prohibition. Australia is the only top twenty economy with
Speaker 17: a ban on nuclear power, yet we have the most
Speaker 17: uranium in the world. We've got the expertise managing research
Speaker 17: reactors and we're about to get nuclear submarines. It is
Speaker 17: only just makes sense to lift the ban and I
Speaker 17: hope that the coalition focus on that and then see
Speaker 17: what else they can do in terms of nuclear policy
Speaker 17: for Australia.
Speaker 3: Look, absolutely we are a uranium powerhouse. What a shame
Speaker 3: we don't use it to its purpose. Will Shackle, thank
Speaker 3: you very much for joining me on the program. Really
Speaker 3: appreciate your insights.
Speaker 17: Thank you, Danikia.
Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, the winners and losers of
Speaker 3: the week, including Greta Thunberg and a Mary band of
Speaker 3: followers after their flotella was intercepted by the IDEA.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Well, it is that time of the week where we
Speaker 3: sought the winners from the losers. And helping me to
Speaker 3: do that is Lisa Goddard from a Doni Media. Lisa,
Speaker 3: good to see you. Thank you so much for treating
Speaker 3: me now. Your winner this week is the Australia Day
Speaker 3: Awards returning to the Sunshine Coast.
Speaker 4: How good is this? Finally we're seeing some common sense
Speaker 4: come in and we haven't got counsels. Counselors actually surrendering
Speaker 4: to this claim that we can no longer be proud
Speaker 4: of being Australian, celebrate Australia Day. They're actually taking some
Speaker 4: steps forward, and good on Mayor Roseta Noa told because
Speaker 4: she's decided that awards that they canceled in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 4: they're now back. They're happy to go out there and
Speaker 4: do what Australia Day should be about, which is recognizing
Speaker 4: and celebrating the true heroes of this country, the quiet
Speaker 4: people in our community who are actually out there making
Speaker 4: a difference. So I know we shouldn't be talking about
Speaker 4: Australia Day just yet, and it's tires and we will
Speaker 4: have many debates leading up to the twenty sixth of January.
Speaker 4: But I just think at this point this is a
Speaker 4: win through a council, a local council actually making a
Speaker 4: good decision for a change.
Speaker 3: Well, finally, Lisa some common sense and I hope that
Speaker 3: other councils follow suit. The problem is, of course, as
Speaker 3: we would be, and the problem is, as we know,
Speaker 3: is that multiple council councils they cancel their Australia Day celebrations,
Speaker 3: they move their citizenship ceremonies to a different day. You know,
Speaker 3: they've gone completely woke. So well done to this one
Speaker 3: for at least showing some common sense on the matter.
Speaker 3: I think it's great now I had to give my
Speaker 3: winner this week to Greta.
Speaker 2: Lovely Greta Thunberg. Isn't she great?
Speaker 3: Simply because her flotilla has been a flop for a
Speaker 3: second time, which I think is good news.
Speaker 2: Her and her merry band of followers have been.
Speaker 3: Detained after being intercepted by the f IDF, and here
Speaker 3: was her very dramatic response.
Speaker 18: My name is Gidlingion leonis, citizen of Sweden. If you
Speaker 18: are watching this video, I have been abduncted and taking
Speaker 18: against my will. My Israeli courses ice humanitarian mission was
Speaker 18: non violence and abiding by international law. Please tell my
Speaker 18: government to demand my and the other's immediate release.
Speaker 2: Lisa, she thinks she's been abducted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and she obviously hasn't watched and refuses to
Speaker 4: watch those videos to understand exactly what it is to
Speaker 4: be abducted, in, kidnapped and worse. But look, I think
Speaker 4: this is our own goal for her. This is a
Speaker 4: win because one thing Greta Tumberg wants more than saving
Speaker 4: the planet or being a pro Palacitian supporter is actually publicity,
Speaker 4: and that's exactly what she is getting.
Speaker 17: Now.
Speaker 4: You know, she'll spend what until Sunday or Monday before
Speaker 4: she's deported. The reports are that she'll be in some
Speaker 4: prison where apparently there are terrorists also being held. So
Speaker 4: I think maybe the Israel government and saying, look, you
Speaker 4: had a crack at this in June, we sent your
Speaker 4: home in the back rogue and next to the toilets.
Speaker 4: That wasn't enough to discourage you. So here you go,
Speaker 4: spend some time in prison and see what it's like
Speaker 4: and hopefully don't come back again. But if you look
Speaker 4: at Greta Janika, I think she's having a crisis of identity.
Speaker 4: You know what, since fifteen, has been lecturing us about
Speaker 4: climate change and saving the planet. Now she's turned off.
Speaker 8: So Justice Warrior.
Speaker 4: The only good news is she rides herself on being
Speaker 4: a youth activist. And I looked up the United Nations
Speaker 4: definition of youth is up to twenty four, so oh,
Speaker 4: she's just over twenty two. The time frame is shortening.
Speaker 3: Oh look, I mean, of course that that would be
Speaker 3: the official definition. But look, I couldn't agree more with you.
Speaker 3: And in fact, you know what, I think Israel's done
Speaker 3: us all a favor, really, so all the best gret
Speaker 3: up by you know, no sympathy here. Now your loser
Speaker 3: of the week are the children of Nicole Kidman.
Speaker 2: And Keith Urban.
Speaker 3: As this tabloid feeding frenzy continues over there.
Speaker 4: Split Yeah, look like me, we are across the news
Speaker 4: from every angle, and I can tell you from the
Speaker 4: groups I've been around this week. Yeah, they might be
Speaker 4: across what's happening politically, but the one story they're talking
Speaker 4: about is this divorce between Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban.
Speaker 4: Look forty of marriages now in this country alone and
Speaker 4: in divorce, and you have to care about and think
Speaker 4: about the kids and.
Speaker 8: That as a couple.
Speaker 4: They made such an effort to keep these kids out
Speaker 4: of the media as long as they possibly could. And
Speaker 4: once the paparazzi have gone after Keith, which I did
Speaker 4: today at his first concert in Pennsylvania, they've snapped in
Speaker 4: the coal out for a walk with her sister. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you have to feel that the next two targets will
Speaker 4: be those kids. They try to go about their everyday
Speaker 4: life and watch this awful soap opera play out very publicly.
Speaker 3: You're right, we do actually forget about the kids in
Speaker 3: this situation. But Gea, you know, I think I feel
Speaker 3: like it's been a topic of discussion everywhere what happened
Speaker 3: between the two of them.
Speaker 2: It has been about twenty twenty years.
Speaker 3: I think they were married for which is huge, But
Speaker 3: there's a lot of suggestions about what may have happened.
Speaker 2: I guess we'll never really know. But you know, if
Speaker 2: the Gerdo is playing Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 3: Oh, exactly, absolutely spot on. Now my loser this week,
Speaker 3: Lisa is Carmla Harris. She's about to burden us again
Speaker 3: by what has been. Would you believe she's coming back
Speaker 3: down under this time in February to headline the Women
Speaker 3: Unlimited Leadership Summit. I don't know why anyone would want
Speaker 3: to hear her talk, because I'm worried we're going to
Speaker 3: be subjected to this.
Speaker 19: And what can be and be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 19: You know, there is great significance to the passage of
Speaker 19: time in terms of what we need to do to
Speaker 19: see the moment in time in which we exist and
Speaker 19: are a present.
Speaker 3: Oh, it sends shivers down by spine stell Lisa, So
Speaker 3: you know, here's she comes. She's coming back again, and
Speaker 3: we're going to be subjected to it all again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm guessing lines like leadership is about leading. How
Speaker 4: about something like that or a ven diagram, you know,
Speaker 4: a circle of a woman, a circle of power, that's
Speaker 4: where the two overlapped. I just think if you come
Speaker 4: to spend all of that money to bring her out here,
Speaker 4: if you look at speaking fees, it's estimated she could
Speaker 4: be charging around three hundred thousand dollars to do the event. Really,
Speaker 4: what what are you going to learn about leadership from
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris? It would be about as much I'm guessing
Speaker 4: as what the property sector learn when she came out
Speaker 4: to the Gold Coast to talk about real estate at
Speaker 4: a property summit.
Speaker 3: Well in mind, but well, it's all about the passage
Speaker 3: of time. That's what it's all about, Lisa uh And
Speaker 3: speaking of time, we're out of time. Good to see you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me on the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me. That's it for me.
Speaker 3: I'll be back at seven pm on Sunday for Deneka
Speaker 3: and James. And now he's James McPherson filling in for
Speaker 3: Steve Price.