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Speaker 1: On scoring lids Australia. This is the Reader Paney Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight the leadership showdown between Susan Lee and Angus Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Wilde will provide his insights into the candidates. Next,

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Speaker 2: the Great Douglas Murray joins the program and he has

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Speaker 2: some blistering analysis for the likes of Grace Tame and

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Speaker 2: the Greens. Army Horowitz will have the latest from the US,

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Speaker 2: and later in the hour Kinsey Schofield will bring us

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Speaker 2: the real scandal from the Winter Olympics and Left is losing.

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Speaker 2: It features this brave woman. But first Susan Lee and

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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor will face off for the Liberal leadership tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: A letter calling for a Lee ship's bill was hand

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Speaker 2: delivered to Leite this morning and we've had several resignations

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Speaker 2: from key Liberal figures, including James Patterson and Jonathan Dunniam.

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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor made his pitch to voters in a social

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Speaker 2: media video posted earlier today.

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Speaker 3: Our country is in trouble.

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Speaker 2: The Labor government has failed and the Liberal Party has

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Speaker 2: lost its way.

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Speaker 3: I'm running to be.

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Speaker 2: The leader of the Liberal Party because I believe that

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Speaker 2: Australia is worth fighting for. Joining me now is Institute

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Speaker 2: of Public Affairs Deputy Executive Director Daniel Wild Dan. We're

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Speaker 2: also likely to have a fight for the deputy role.

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Speaker 2: We've got the likes of Senator Jane Hume expected to

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Speaker 2: challenge Ted O'Brien for the position. Tim Wilson, Zowen, Mackenzie

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Speaker 2: dan Tin and Melissa McIntosh are also potential candidates. So

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Speaker 2: does that fill you with confidence?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a start, you know. Obviously some change is

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Speaker 4: needed in a leadership capacity. I mean, you can't go

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Speaker 4: to an election on a fifteen or a sixteen percent primary.

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Speaker 4: You know it's going to be all over. It was

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Speaker 4: only a matter of time before leadership was changed. But look,

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Speaker 4: the thing is that no matter who the leader is,

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Speaker 4: no matter who the deputy leader is, there needs to

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Speaker 4: be more than just a change of the personalities. There

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Speaker 4: needs to be a change of policy direction that needs

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Speaker 4: to be very sharp, It needs to be convincing, and

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Speaker 4: it needs to be unrelenting on the issues that actually matter,

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Speaker 4: for example, on immigration, on policies like net zero, on

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Speaker 4: the direction of our country and our culture. So we'll

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Speaker 4: wait and see as to whether the next leader of

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Speaker 4: the party and the deputy leader understand that and are

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Speaker 4: able to communicate and create a contest. Right, they actually

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Speaker 4: have to create a contest with the government. We all

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Speaker 4: know that interest rates are up, we all know that

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Speaker 4: cost of living is up and so forth, but you know,

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Speaker 4: what are you actually going to do about it? And

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Speaker 4: how are you going to communicate to Australians that you

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Speaker 4: offer a different alternative. The other point I'll make is

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Speaker 4: that the challenge that the Liberal Party phases is that

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Speaker 4: there's a real lack of trust in it among the community.

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Speaker 4: So they have a massive, if you want to use

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Speaker 4: a marketing term, of brand equity issue. People don't really

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Speaker 4: listen to Liberals at the moment because of the ten

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Speaker 4: years in government, most of which was wasted. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know whether they understand that they're in the

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Speaker 4: Tory territory now. You know, it's not just like another

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Speaker 4: normal cycle. It's people actually don't trust the brand anymore.

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Speaker 4: So you know, a change of leadership will help. But

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Speaker 4: this is pretty structural at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Can you see Angus Taylor repairing that trust with the

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Speaker 2: Liberal base and with voters in general, because this is

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Speaker 2: all about policies. If you don't actually stand for anything consequential,

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Speaker 2: then you can change leaders as much as you like.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to win back that support from disaffected voters.

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Speaker 4: That's right. It remains to be seen. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I'll keep an open mind about whoever the leader is.

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Speaker 4: Looks like it anger, so keep it open mind about it.

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Speaker 4: But the first thing they have to do politically speaking,

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Speaker 4: is they have to actually win back to one nation voters.

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Speaker 4: So you know, they're actually fighting a war on two fronts.

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Speaker 4: So there's no point in taking the fight to the

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Speaker 4: government unless you take the fight to one nation first.

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Speaker 4: But this is what they have to understand is that

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Speaker 4: their current opponent is not Labor, their current opponent is

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Speaker 4: one nation, and they need to make sure they retain

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Speaker 4: the status as the actual opposition party. So that's step

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Speaker 4: number one. And I don't think it's actually that difficult

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Speaker 4: to do in terms of policies. It's just a question

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Speaker 4: of whether they want to do it or not. Now

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Speaker 4: this reveals something much more fundamental, which is half of

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Speaker 4: the Parliamentary Party doesn't want to do that, right because

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Speaker 4: they're ashamed of it. You know, half of the party

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Speaker 4: is ashamed of working class Australians. They thumb their nose

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Speaker 4: at cultural issues. They think it's beneath them. A lot

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying you just appeal to one nation voters

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Speaker 4: for the sake of it, but politically that's the only

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Speaker 4: way they survive. And the broader point here is that

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Speaker 4: the you know, can this massive structural split within the

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Speaker 4: party be repaired or is it sort of too fundamental?

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Speaker 4: You know, can you have a party that exists when

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Speaker 4: half of it wan't it zero, half of it don't,

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Speaker 4: half of it want mass migration, half of it don't.

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Speaker 4: So that's the task of the leader and you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll wait and see as to whether it can actually

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Speaker 2: I think you just hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 2: And you've got too many within that party that have

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Speaker 2: used this stain for working class Australians, people out in

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Speaker 2: regional areas, people in the outer suburbs. They want to

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Speaker 2: appeal to that till electorate almost exclusively, and those people

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Speaker 2: within the party are why they're getting a primary vote

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Speaker 2: of around fifteen percent. Right now, Dan, let's switch to Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: The full extent of the alleged criminal activity within the

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Speaker 2: CFMU has been revealed in a report by Jeffrey Watson

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Speaker 2: sc among those who have benefited from corrupt conduct, systematic

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Speaker 2: corrupt conduct, convicted and alleged killers employed as cfm A

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Speaker 2: health and safety officers. Yes, the report also alleged outlaw

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Speaker 2: motorcycle gangs were embedded in the cfm AU and we're

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Speaker 2: using government building sites as drug distribution centers. The mass

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Speaker 2: routing DAN is estimated to have cost Victorian taxpayers around

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Speaker 2: fifteen billion dollars. Some are estimating the real figure is

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Speaker 2: closer to thirty billion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, the big build is a big rought, and we've

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Speaker 4: known that for a long time. Now there is actually

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Speaker 4: a smoking gun, or several smoking guns. It was always

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Speaker 4: somewhat hard to establish, you know, without you know, in

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Speaker 4: that was going on that most people knew that was

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Speaker 4: going on, but it was never actually established with any

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Speaker 4: evidence base. But now that is provided, I think this

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Speaker 4: will be a turning point. You know, labor and Victoria

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Speaker 4: corruption have never really stuck fundamentally, But now that you've

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Speaker 4: will be a turning point. It's taken far too long,

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Speaker 4: and if nothing else, as you mentioned, the cost to

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Speaker 4: and the bridges and tunnels are probably necessary infrastructure projects,

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Speaker 4: but the premium, the cost premium that's put on them

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Speaker 4: through doing work almost exclusively to CFMU, is unconscionable. So

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Speaker 4: I think this is going to probably damage this into

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Speaker 4: Allen and it may actually be the end of her

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Speaker 2: Dan Wile, thank you for your time tonight. Joining me

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Speaker 2: now is the author of international best sellers, including his

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Speaker 2: latest work on democracies and death cults. Douglas Murray, I'm

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Speaker 2: keen to get your thoughts on what's been happening in

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Speaker 2: Australia this week with violent anti Israeli protests. But first

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Speaker 2: let's start in New York, where the mayor is dodging

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Speaker 2: blame for the mismanagement that is saying fifteen homeless people

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Speaker 2: dying due to hypothermia. But Zoron Mamdani is a choosing

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Speaker 2: to opine about immigration policy, and he believes we have

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Speaker 2: lessons to learn from the prophet.

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Speaker 6: And I consider my own faith. Islam a religion built

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Speaker 6: upon a narrative of migration. The story of the Hedra

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Speaker 6: reminds us the prophet Muhammad Sode Alali, who was seldom

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Speaker 6: was a stranger too, who fled Mecca and was welcomed

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Speaker 6: in Medina. Suda Nahal sixteen forty two tells us as

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Speaker 6: for those who immigrated in the cause of a law,

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Speaker 6: after being persecuted, we will surely bless them with a

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Speaker 6: good home in this world. Or as the prophet Muhammad Salilali,

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Speaker 6: who was seldom said, Islam began as something strange and

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Speaker 6: will go back to being strange. So glad tidings to

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Speaker 6: the strangers.

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Speaker 2: Douglas, I feel like he left out a few pertinent

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Speaker 2: facts there, like what happened in Medana. Islam spread from

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Speaker 1: There's quite a lot left out there, reader, isn't there?

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Speaker 1: But I mean, firstly, it is rather strange hearing any politician,

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Speaker 1: not least the mayor of New York talking like this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a sermon really, And because of

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Speaker 1: attitudes towards faith in America, like in most countries, we

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Speaker 1: tend to keep personal faith out of politics, Zoramandani is

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Speaker 1: clearly ostentatiously trying to introduce his faith into politics, and

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Speaker 1: is doing so, of course, as we saw there, in

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Speaker 1: a very sort of dishonest way. Frankly, it's not the

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Speaker 1: case that the founder of Islam was just a sort

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Speaker 1: it's not just a dishonest but there's something slightly sinister

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Speaker 1: story of the spread of Islam is is not one

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Speaker 1: do a bit of delivery work. It's it's just just

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Speaker 1: not the story. The story of Islam and it's founding

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Speaker 1: was that it was spread by the sword, and so

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Speaker 1: it's it's strange to hear a mayor of New York,

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Speaker 1: And they're obviously so deliberately leaving out every pertinent detail,

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Speaker 2: Crowd just laps it up. They just applause, no critical thinking.

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Speaker 2: It's quite depressing. Now to Sydney, where we've had violent

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Speaker 2: protests sparked by the visit of the Israeli President Isaac Herzog,

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Speaker 2: who came to our country to mourn with the Jewish

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Speaker 2: community after the Bondai terror attack. This is the welcome

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Speaker 2: who received from a woman who was named Australian of

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Speaker 2: the Year in twenty twenty one, Grace Tame. We have

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Speaker 2: to continue to mobilize and we have to continue to globalize.

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Speaker 6: Say it with me, from Gadigal to.

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Speaker 2: Gaza, Globalize the inch.

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Speaker 7: Of final won more time, from Gadigol.

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Speaker 6: To Gaza, Globalize the Interfia.

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Speaker 2: From Gadigol to Gaza, globalized into Fathera Douglas. There are

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Speaker 2: calls for Grace Tame, who has been dubbed Australia's Greta Thunberg,

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Speaker 2: to be stripped off a Australian of the Year honors.

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Speaker 2: How do you see this episode in Australia this week?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it's worth I think for some

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Speaker 1: of view as Rita and making it clear what the

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Speaker 1: first word she said was, Gaddigal, as I understand it

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Speaker 1: and as our Australian viewers might know, is an Aboriginal

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Speaker 1: wants to go deep down, presumably into sort of you know,

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Speaker 2: Panny Show, and it's time for left is losing it.

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Speaker 2: So much of what is wrong in the West can

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Speaker 2: Even a yoga studio is not safe from the madness.

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Speaker 7: So rather than putting our weights back and organizing the

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Speaker 2: Yes, a brave and stunning stand by the yoga mom's there,

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Speaker 2: And instead of standing up for their workers, that studio

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Speaker 2: has caved into the mob and is now putting up

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Speaker 2: anti ICE signs in its studios in Minneapolis. Absolutely pathetic.

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Speaker 2: Let's check in now on an activist using the medium

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Speaker 2: of dance and knitted jumpers to protest against President Trump

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Speaker 2: and Ice.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I can't say how President Trump can pulsibly recover from that.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear now from Sunny Houstin, the co host of

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Speaker 2: the View, to make some incredible claims here about the

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Speaker 2: world's richest man in l.

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Speaker 10: Musk I think we need to call a thing a

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Speaker 10: thing when we're talking about someone like Elon Musk. He

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Speaker 10: has trafficked in white supremacy on the Internet, on social media,

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Speaker 10: on x for quite some time. He sparked some controversy

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Speaker 10: just on January eighth, calling for white solidarity and warning

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Speaker 10: that white men would be slaughtered if they became a minority.

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Speaker 10: He also posted in September that white people are rapidly

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Speaker 10: diminishing minority of the global population, and in December he

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Speaker 10: said that the South African government is super racist against

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Speaker 10: anyone who isn't black. And he has also said that

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Speaker 10: he is not African, that he is actually of British

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Speaker 10: and English descent, and so we know what this is.

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Speaker 10: He is a white supremacist. In my view, he is

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Speaker 10: a racist.

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Speaker 2: So Elon Musk is a racist and a white supremacist

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Speaker 2: for simply noting facts, facts that Sonny does not like.

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Speaker 2: I got to say one thing to Sonny Austin. It's

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Speaker 2: not Elon Musk whose family has a history of being

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Speaker 2: slave owners.

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Speaker 10: Wow, I'm a little bit in shock. I just always

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Speaker 10: thought of myself as Puerto Rican, you know, half Puerto Rican.

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Speaker 10: I didn't think I was. My family was originally from

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Speaker 10: Spain and slaveholders.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear now from a transactivist who thinks the real victim,

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Speaker 2: the first victim of a horrific mass shooting in Canada

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Speaker 2: is the killer himself. Because the killer was trans.

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Speaker 1: The first victim of this tragedy was the shooter. And

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Speaker 1: you can disagree want that person did not just decide

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Speaker 1: one day that it was the day. It was the

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Speaker 1: day that they could not take it any longer.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in filmmaker and commentator Army Horoiz. Army, this

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Speaker 2: is the latest mass shooting attributed to a trans or

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Speaker 2: non binary killer, or, as the Canadian authorities call him,

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Speaker 2: the gun person. God forbid they should misgender a mass killer.

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Speaker 9: That includes the deceased gunperson.

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Speaker 11: Okay, and then separately, do you know the gun person's

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Speaker 11: relationship to Army?

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Speaker 2: What more do we know about this gunman, Jesse van

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Speaker 2: Rutzla and this horrific crime.

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Speaker 11: Uh yeah, you stole one of my notes. I mean

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Speaker 11: how orwellian gun person? That is God, that is chilling

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Speaker 11: and crazy. Yes, we know this way transperson. First of all,

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Speaker 11: look as we now have to say, you know, we

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Speaker 11: talk about gun laws and what their effects are ultimately

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Speaker 11: on on shootings. Canada is one of the stricts of

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Speaker 11: gun laws certainly in the world, and yet this is

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Speaker 11: a mass shooting that we've had. But look, if if

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Speaker 11: the gunman, we know, if the gunman wasn't a straight

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Speaker 11: white male, it's the job the authorities to to hide

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Speaker 11: their identity. That's the way it works, right, it's the

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Speaker 11: straight white male will identify him all the livelong day.

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Speaker 11: But if it's not. So there's a trans person, we're

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Speaker 11: gonna do whatever we can to obscure what.

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Speaker 3: The identity is.

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Speaker 11: Right, And look, you know, I had, you know, like

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Speaker 11: I always do, I do. I do show prep, and

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Speaker 11: I went in my research with AI and we always

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Speaker 11: have those fun AI stories, And I asked, well, what

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Speaker 11: percent of school shootings we've had in the last five

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Speaker 11: years have been from trans people?

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Speaker 3: And refused to give me a number. It kept saying

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Speaker 3: it's a very very low number. I swear it would not.

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Speaker 11: I had to list every single one of the last

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Speaker 11: five years mass school shootings and individually go through them.

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Speaker 3: And what's the answer.

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Speaker 11: There's been five last five years and to the five

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Speaker 11: forty percent have been people where trans or non binary.

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Speaker 9: We well, since we.

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Speaker 2: Last talked about this, I went and check that out

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Speaker 2: for myself. I asked the not just chat GPT, but

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Speaker 2: GROCK and ask precisely what you were talking about, to

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Speaker 2: list the number of mass shootings in the recent years

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Speaker 2: that have involved a trans shooter or a non binary shooter,

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Speaker 2: and it just refuses to do it. When you then

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Speaker 2: give it a number of events, it will acknowledge it

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Speaker 2: and repeat those to you, but it will not compile

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Speaker 2: a list, which is extraordinary because I could ask it

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Speaker 2: to compile any other sort of list and it will

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Speaker 2: normally do it. But there is just this determination not

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge that perhaps there is a problem here. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's move along to the House of Representatives today passing

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Speaker 2: a massive election integrity bill two hundred and eighteen to

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirteen votes. We've talked about this before, Army,

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Speaker 2: about how popular this policy is. Around eighty five percent

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Speaker 2: of Americans back voter ID, but the Democrats continue to

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Speaker 2: oppose it. They voted against the Save America Act.

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Speaker 11: Army, Yeah, and this happens over and over and over again.

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Speaker 11: All the Democrats vot it voted against it in the

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Speaker 11: House save one.

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Speaker 3: Look, there's a.

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Speaker 11: Reason why they continue to push universal mail and balloting

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Speaker 11: and ballot harvesting and voting all year long, and against

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Speaker 11: voter ID and by the way, also voting for non

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Speaker 11: citizens to vote. I know, I know, they all say

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Speaker 11: that's not true, that's a scurrelous light. It absolutely, one

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Speaker 11: hundred percent is true. In New York, in San Francisco,

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Speaker 11: in DC and other cities, they have voted to have

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Speaker 11: non citizens vote.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, that's the reality.

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Speaker 11: They want to try to get away from that all

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Speaker 11: they want, but it's just not possible.

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Speaker 3: Lookrita, yesterday.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, last week, we talked about the reason why I

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Speaker 11: made that voter ID video because somebody voted.

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Speaker 3: For my dad.

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Speaker 11: What I didn't tell you the second part of that story,

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Speaker 11: which ties into this, is that I took a photo

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Speaker 11: of that and I sent that to the California Board

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Speaker 11: of Elections.

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Speaker 3: I go, look, you claim there's no voter fraud.

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Speaker 11: Here is an absolute, clear indication of voter fraud. You

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Speaker 11: know how quickly they got back to me. They never

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Speaker 11: gone back to me. They don't care, they don't want

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Speaker 11: to know. That's the reality. Look, Reita, in virtually every

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Speaker 11: Western European country you have to show ID to votes.

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Speaker 11: That's just part of what it is. They don't want

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Speaker 11: to safeguard elections because they call safeguarding elections voter suppression

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Speaker 11: the Democratic Party. Okay, the reality is they want this

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Speaker 11: problematic issue to be in our vote because they feel whatever,

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Speaker 11: you know, we can go into. That's a whole different

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Speaker 11: discussion of why they don't want voter integrity. I think

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Speaker 11: they think it's going to help elect Democrats. Okay, and

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Speaker 11: this reader is the party.

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Speaker 2: Only answer, Army, that's the only answer. Why else would

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Speaker 2: you campaign against vote against the policy. The poll after

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Speaker 2: poll shows around eighty five percent of Americans back and

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Speaker 2: we brought you the CNN coverage of that issue last week.

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Speaker 2: The polling on this is clear. This is almost it's

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Speaker 2: not even an eighty twenty issue. It's close to a

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Speaker 2: ninety ten issue. And yet the Democrats are staunchly against

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Speaker 2: voter id Now talking about Democrats, Democrat heartland of California

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Speaker 2: has lost another billionaire. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg is fleeing

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom's California and heading to Florida. Army. He has

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Speaker 2: purchased a massive waterfront mansion in Miami and he's expected

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Speaker 2: to live in it. It's not supposed to be a

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Speaker 2: holiday home. They're expecting him to move to the Red

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Speaker 2: State in April. Why are so many people living California

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Speaker 2: leaving California for places like Florida and Texas and Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of a theme there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't tell if that's a retorical question or

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Speaker 3: a real question.

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Speaker 4: Reader.

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Speaker 3: I mean, California is there. It's unbelooked. Here's the data. Okay.

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Speaker 11: In the last fifteen years, sorry, last ten years, ten

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Speaker 11: million people have left California, including dozens of billionaires like

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Speaker 11: Mark Zuckerberg, taking with them all their job creation, all

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Speaker 11: their innovation. It's all going out the door to the

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Speaker 11: states who are welcoming people who want to create wealth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, not California. You know.

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Speaker 11: The greatest stat of all is that if you want

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Speaker 11: to rent a U haul one way from California to Texas,

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Speaker 11: it is four times more expensive in that direction than

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Speaker 11: Texas coming back.

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Speaker 3: To because no one is doing that. Look, this hurts

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Speaker 3: my heart, it does. As you know.

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Speaker 11: I am a long time I live in New York,

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Speaker 11: but I am a la boy. I am a California

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Speaker 11: boy at heart, Okay, and it.

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Speaker 3: Pains me to know and to see.

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Speaker 11: The destruction of my state, and one of the main

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Speaker 11: drivers of the ultra wealthy leaving is because they've been

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Speaker 11: pushing and now they're about to possibly pass a five

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Speaker 11: percent wealth tax on the ultra ridge.

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Speaker 3: Now, to be clear, what that is.

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Speaker 11: You're talking about real estate holdings for businesses. You're talking

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Speaker 11: about owning the ownership of businesses, and you're talking about

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Speaker 11: stock portfolios. And for those who don't understand what that means,

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Speaker 11: that's not an extra five percent tax on your earnings.

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Speaker 11: What that means is if you own a business that

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Speaker 11: you haven't realized, it's gains because you're pouring all the

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Speaker 11: money back of the business. If the if the business

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Speaker 11: valued at a billion.

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Speaker 3: Dollars right now. I was told there wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: be any math on this on this on this interview,

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Speaker 3: but I guess there's going to be.

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Speaker 11: You're talking about five You're talking about tens of millions

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Speaker 11: of dollars that you have to pay because you have

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Speaker 11: a business, or if you have stockholders you haven't if

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Speaker 11: you haven't realized the gays in your stock.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. If you don't have that money, you.

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Speaker 11: Have to pay that in taxes. No one could do that, Okay,

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Speaker 11: that's it's a horrific albatross to have on you. And

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Speaker 11: what that has done is driven people away. Now they've

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Speaker 11: tried well taxes all over the world and they have

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Speaker 11: all failed spectacularly.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 11: And to be clear again, you know the witch don't

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Speaker 11: pay their fair share, right, how often do you hear that?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 11: Couple of statistics which I think is really really helpful

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Speaker 11: here is that the top up one percent. I'm gonna

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Speaker 11: read it the nose because these numbers are important. The

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Speaker 11: top one percent of earners, right, they pay forty percent

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Speaker 11: of all They earn twenty percent of all earnings, yet.

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Speaker 3: Pay forty percent.

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Speaker 11: The bottom fifty percent pay three percent of all taxes

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Speaker 11: but earn thirteen percent. Okay, the bottom fIF I'm sorry

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Speaker 11: these stats, but they're important. The bottom fifty percent pay

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Speaker 11: four percent of their income in taxes, okay, and the

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Speaker 11: top one percent they pay twenty seven percent of their

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Speaker 11: income that they get in taxes. So you tell me

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Speaker 11: the original p the fairst year. The rich are carrying

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Speaker 11: this country, okay. And we are doing is you're trying

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Speaker 11: to make them flee and leave. And by the way,

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Speaker 11: if it is writ large across the country, they're going

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Speaker 11: to leave the country also because they just simply can't

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Speaker 11: afford to do.

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Speaker 2: It as long as when they move to those red states,

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Speaker 2: and we're seeing that similar trend from New York as

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Speaker 2: well to places like Texas and Florida and Tennessee. Just

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Speaker 2: don't keep voting the same way that you have because

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Speaker 2: a lot of these people fleeing California keep voting Democrat

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Speaker 2: in their new home state. Army Horowitz, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure still to come.

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Speaker 2: An outrageous cheating scandal at the Winter Olympics. Kinsey Schofield

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Speaker 2: has the details. Welcome back joining me now, celebrity and

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Speaker 2: royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, Let's start with Prince Harry.

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Speaker 2: An insider has confirmed to Royal expert Rob Shooter that

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Speaker 2: Prince Harry is now charging a small fee of fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand US. Doesn't sound small, but it is for a prince.

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Speaker 2: This is for speaking appearances. Is a far cry from

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Speaker 2: the millions he was charging per speech when he and

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Speaker 2: Megan ditch the royal family back in twenty twenty. It

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Speaker 2: sounds like the Dukes rivers of gold have dried up Kinsey.

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Speaker 9: I mean, actions have consequences.

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Speaker 5: I really have a hard time taking someone seriously that

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Speaker 5: quits nearly everything he starts, doesn't get along with anyone

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Speaker 5: in his family, and casually and enthusiastically discusses their drug use.

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Speaker 9: Truly, what does Prince Harry bring to the table.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's that royal proximity, which, thanks to Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 5: has even taken a hit.

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Speaker 9: I'm surprised anyone would pay him anything.

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Speaker 2: Seashells Now Historian author Andrew Lowdie has said that King

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Speaker 2: Charles should abdicate and hand the throne over to Prince

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Speaker 2: William to save the monarchy and wipe the slate clean

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Speaker 2: amid the continuing fallout from the Epstein files. Here is

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Speaker 2: what he had to say.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that the clamor could literally end King

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Speaker 1: Charles's reign?

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Speaker 8: Yes, I think it could. I mean, I think they

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Speaker 8: just keep that. They seem unable to learn the lessons

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Speaker 8: of the past. They've tried to shut the story down

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Speaker 8: for years, to the extent of issuing legal threats against journalists,

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Speaker 8: strong on pressure to deny them access to royal interviews, etc.

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Speaker 8: So the King has known about this. The Queen protected Andrew.

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Speaker 8: The easiest thing would be for the king to abdicate Kindzy.

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Speaker 2: There is widespread dissatisfaction with how the palace has dealt

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Speaker 2: with this. They've known about some of these allegations for

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Speaker 2: around fifteen years or more.

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Speaker 9: You're right, I mean people are very angry.

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Speaker 5: There are certain people within the palace that have known

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Speaker 5: about the allegations for quite some time. But are those

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Speaker 5: people angry with the appropriate monarch. I spoke to Tom

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Speaker 5: Bauer today, author of Rebel Prince, about King Charles, who

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Speaker 5: told me that Charles has never gotten along with Andrew.

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Speaker 5: They were never close. They would he would have no

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Speaker 5: reason to know what Andrew was up to behind closed doors,

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Speaker 5: who he was associating with. This is an inherited mess,

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Speaker 5: and the queen's advisors should have done a better job

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Speaker 5: of protecting the future of the monarchy by being more

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Speaker 5: rooe flits towards Andrew sooner.

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Speaker 9: I really have sympathy for the king here.

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Speaker 2: You would think the future king would be briefed about

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Speaker 2: these sorts of allegations. If people were coming forward and

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Speaker 2: threatening legal action. We're saying these rumors were circulating, surely

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Speaker 2: the future monarch would be advised, given that at some

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Speaker 2: point they're going to be taking on this responsibility, it

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Speaker 2: seems a very bizarre way of running things at the Palace.

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan, on the other hand, has revealed that in

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, he received an unwonted invitation to meet Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: Epstein via one of the guests on his show. Here

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Speaker 2: he is discussing what happened with Cheryl Hines.

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Speaker 6: I'm in the files for not going.

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Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein was trying to meet with me. This was

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Speaker 9: like twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 6: One of my guests was trying to get me to

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Speaker 6: meet him. I was like, are you high?

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Speaker 11: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan is a long from the former Prince Andrew.

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Speaker 2: He could not be tempted to meet with Epstein, Kinsey,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Joe Rogan is the type of man

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Speaker 2: who can be bought or susceptible to the likes of

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is just a friendly reminder that just

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Speaker 5: because someone is mentioned within the dog email drop, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're actually guilty of anything Epstein related.

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Speaker 9: You know, he was pursuing a relationship with Rogan.

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Speaker 5: Rogan wasn't interested and Rogan is there still name dropped.

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Speaker 5: I'm so glad he told that story to put that

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Speaker 5: distance between him and the convicted sex offender, because some

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Speaker 5: people can't separate fact from fiction, and these documents have

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Speaker 5: made people crazy.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the same you could argue for Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: his name's in the files, but it's in the files

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Speaker 2: confirming that he was talking to authorities about Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 2: and Gilain Maxwell, encouraging them to investigate and charge them.

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Speaker 2: This was before Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of being a pedophile. Okay, Kinzy,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the Winter Olympics and nouieg and biathletes

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Speaker 2: Sterla home leg Grid has caused quite a stir after

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Speaker 2: publicly and tearfully admitting to cheating on his girlfriend following

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Speaker 2: his bronze medal win. He had plenty to say, Kinzy,

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Speaker 2: do we know much more about the status of this

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Speaker 2: relationship as the ex girlfriend taken him back?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: She's not buying the grand gesture the Olympic medalists. Axe

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Speaker 5: says it's hard to forgive after his cheating, accusing him

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Speaker 5: of turning their break up into an Olympic spectacle. According

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Speaker 5: to the tabloid Piji that spoke to her, she stressed

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Speaker 5: she wanted to remain anonymous.

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Speaker 9: She says even a.

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Speaker 5: Worldwide declaration of love isn't enough to repair the betrayal.

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Speaker 3: Good on her.

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Speaker 2: I've got to say, I don't know who this woman is,

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Speaker 2: but I am a fan and I had to look

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Speaker 2: online at some of the commentary, and I've got to

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Speaker 2: say the Sisterhood are telling her to stay away because

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Speaker 2: this guy could not stay faithful Kinsey for even three months.

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Speaker 2: He explained in depth what happened here. Apparently met the

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Speaker 2: love of his life six months ago, cheated with her,

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Speaker 2: on her within three months, and she kicked him to

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Speaker 2: the curb. Now, I want to ask you about the

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Speaker 2: TV ratings around the Super Bowl. We heard a lot

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Speaker 2: of fake news about it being the most watched halftime

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Speaker 2: show ever, but that doesn't seem to be accurate because

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Speaker 2: it seems to be quite a dip in the audience numbers.

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Speaker 2: Nearly ten million people stopped watching the Super Bowl during

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Speaker 2: the halftime show. Tell me about what these figures reveal, Kinsey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the halftime show fumbled some, but TV

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Speaker 5: specifically reports only twenty six point five million Households watch

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Speaker 5: down thirty nine percent from last year's Kendrick Lamorrisat. Footage

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Speaker 5: from inside the stadium, which I know you've seen on

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Speaker 5: social media, shows a crowd that appeared very underwhelmed, and

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Speaker 5: analysts noted viewership dropped to eighty eight percent during the performance,

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Speaker 5: suggesting a notable chunk of the audience tuned out. And

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Speaker 5: that's one of many organizers of these types of statistics.

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Speaker 5: I just think it's the most significant one now.

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Speaker 2: Kinsey Jill Zarin, I think that's her. Hey, you pronounce

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Speaker 2: her and I've never heard of her, I've got to say.

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Speaker 2: But she was left stunned by her sudden firing from

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Speaker 2: A's upcoming reunion series The Golden Life, after she savage

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Speaker 2: bad Buddies super Bowl performance, branding it the worst halftime show. Ever,

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Speaker 2: how can that get you sacked? Surely you are entitled

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Speaker 2: to that opinion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and keep in mind, this new e show is

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Speaker 5: a basically it's a reboot of the Housewives from Bravo.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually pretty shocked by this story. Reality housewives aren't

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Speaker 5: necessarily known for socially acceptable behavior.

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Speaker 9: These are the same women that flip dinner tables.

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Speaker 5: Over and a source close to Jill asked, if someone

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Speaker 5: was offended, why couldn't this have been a teachable moment

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Speaker 5: for the program? Why couldn't this have been a storyline?

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Speaker 5: I completely agree. We don't debate anymore. That's not healthy.

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Speaker 5: This woman was just fired for saying what half the

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Speaker 5: country was complaining about, and I think it will hurt

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Speaker 5: this reboot.

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Speaker 2: Well, if it's the same mob behind the Housewives franchise,

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Speaker 2: I'm not shocked because they are super woke, super left,

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Speaker 2: and obviously they don't tolerate a diversity of views. Kinsey Schofield,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's

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Speaker 2: all the time we have. Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is

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Speaker 2: up next