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Lots of speculation, lots of people out of form, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:37.440 lots of people in form. Who will they pick? Will 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.000 they pick and stick? We don't know that. But lots 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.760 going on in the game. We want to quickly touch on. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.920 Matthew twenty twenty seven. The Perth Bears are coming in, 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.199 the North City Bears taking a return. A lot of 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.840 speculation this week around the coaches. Malma Ninger's being tossed 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.680 up or he has thrown his hat into the ring? 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:55.560 Which fantastic? 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:56.360 Do you like it? 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.120 I like it? I like it a lot? Is if 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.960 you have a look at when sporting teams will move 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:07.120 to cities sometimes markets where they're the second team. As such, 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.080 they'll put an iconic guy in to coach. So the 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.360 two examples I'll use here the Sydney Swes. When they 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.800 wanted to make an impact in Sydney, they had Ron Barrassi, 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.920 who was one of the most biggest characters in the 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.880 history of the AFL he came here. Then of course 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.960 GWS when they come into the competition, they Kevin Sheedy, 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.840 a guy who, just like Ron Barrassi, is just larger 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.800 than live character and he was just incredible with the media. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.240 And so Meningo in my opinion, Malmonninger is perfect for that. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.200 He's such an iconic figure. I think he will draw 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:43.360 being the Australian coach and having relationships with players, he'll 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.080 get players over there, be able to recruit and I 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.360 think of Mao similar to what did you with the 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.279 State of Origin side with Queensland, you know that same model. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.520 If he had a couple of really strong younger assistants, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.240 I think that's a really good good mix. And they're 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.320 talking a little bit of talk about Sammy Burgers too. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.480 Yeah, he'd be good I mean Sammy, he'd be good too, right, 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.840 he'd be the kind of Sammy Samy's a big personality, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:08.799 he's very well known. I imagine he'd be able to 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.960 attract something. And Brad Arthur was the other one. I 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:15.680 believe they were tossing up who's probably got more head 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.399 coaching experience than the other two at an NRL club 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.200 day in, day out, But you know, the other two 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.400 were probably more big game profiles. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.840 You've got to sell You've got to sell it over there, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.760 and you've got to be really media savvy over there 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.320 because you're going to have You're in an AFL state, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.919 and in an AFL state, Channel seven have the rights 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.959 to the AFL, so they're going to make it hard 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.440 for the NRL. The new club is going in there. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.880 Kerry Stokes is an AFL man, he's Channel seven. The 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.919 West Australian newspaper have already started with some negative stuff. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.680 This is going to be the normal to get. It's 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.480 going to be a lot from you the NRL getting 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.120 over there. There's going to be they're going to have 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.000 to deal with. But I just think of Black like 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.280 Malmoninger being over there. They would make a big, huge 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.280 news over there. And my understanding is what I think 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.359 I think the NRL would love. I think I think 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.200 the NAREL will go with now, but I think the 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.000 NRL would love for Sam to coome over Males assistant 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.880 for a couple of years. I mean, that would be 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:13.520 a great team. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.520 They'd be an excellent team. But you see West Coast 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.760 and Freemantle over there right now. They've got a big following. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.120 Perth such a big market, but they don't have a 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.040 lot of sport. They don't have a lot of sport 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.240 outside of probably their AFL following. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.640 Perth Worldcats are huge, really, Perth Wildcats are a massive that. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.600 They are a really big club over there. They've got 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.120 a huge following. I dare say that have the biggest 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.960 following in the NBL, even more the Sydney Kings. They're 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.160 fanatical over there. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.800 Yeah okay, and I know that they've got their Netbule 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.640 sides good over there as well. They don't know their 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:47.840 their exact name, but I know they're a big following 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.760 and I know they love their horse racing over there. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.520 And the Perth Scorches too. They've been the most successful 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:53.680 team in BBL history. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.360 Yeah okay, but there's room for rugby league side of course. Serious, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.360 I'm trying to say, why can't we all work together? 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.280 That's all worked, can I mean when the when the 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.200 Western Reds come in coops, they were getting great crowds, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.480 that had a great following over there. They were they 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.280 were a tough team. They were a very good side. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.480 And evidence of that was when you know the a 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.680 lot of clubs collapsed plast super League. When when the 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.520 reunification is that the Hunter Mariners and the Western Reds 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:26.240 both died, but in essence they almost merged to form 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.360 the Melbourne Storm. Now the Melbourne Storm o't club, But 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.800 what I mean is they almost merged. The playing groups. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.839 If look at look at those initial Melbourne Storm teams, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.320 most of them moved from the Reds on the Mariners. 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.840 That's right. Bret Comley, Robbie Ross. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:48.400 Richie, Richie Swain, you had Robbie Kern's, you had Rodney Howe. 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:54.360 There was mile of players, good mans, always doing great things, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.320 always doing good things. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.240 Another big news as well, friend of the podcast, Brandon 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:04.280 Smith test officially when they're recording this officially released from 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.479 the Roosters going to the South Sydney Rabbit Oz. Can 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.640 we see that Rabbit O's utilizing him this year? 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.479 Yeah, yeah, I can. I think definitely. I think that 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.880 I think a great year for Wayne would be South 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.320 Sydney making the finals. They've had a lot to do 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.680 with mile of injuries first up, but had the important 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.840 win the other night. And I think Brandon coming in 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.279 at the back end of that year, you know, with 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.600 them being in finals contention, he would come in and 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.800 give an enormous boost. Yeah, and Wayne, you just know 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.719 Wayne's going to get the best out in Yeah. I 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.120 think Wayne and Bellamy, you know what I mean, there. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.960 Was two coaches that are probably going to get would 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.320 get the best out of Cheezel and I think, you 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.200 know though, he's gone to one of them, Wayne Bennett. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.920 So I think, I mean it's going to be it's 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.280 going to be deadly if if he can get him, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:56.120 you know, back from his acl fit firing, come that 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.839 finals time and they can sneak into the eight. It'll 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.000 be a scary sort of So they could win it 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.480 from eighth with the talent they've got, if they're all 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.440 peaking going in there in the finals. Latrell, Cody Walker, 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.640 Jack whiteon Brandon Smith, it's pretty deadly. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.359 I was sitting there last night thinking about that. I 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.360 was actually having he under Maddy Rose, the manager, and 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.560 we're talking about the Bunnies, and of course he's a 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.400 Bunnies man. He's got Cody, he's got Latreil and Jack. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:20.839 And he said, what do you see Brandon fitting in? 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.640 What would you do? And I said, look on the 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.280 surface of things, how it sits right now? You put 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.920 me on spot, I said, Maddie, I would start him 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.480 in the first twenty five minutes at nine, start him 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.640 in there. But I said, then I'd give him about 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.400 I'd give him a nice big break, about a twenty 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.080 minute break, and he got the halftime as well, and 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.800 I would move him into into thirteen, having him as 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.159 a runner, using very similar to the same way Billy 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.240 accused him. And what I would do there is I 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.600 would actually I really juice up that middle. So what 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.360 I'd do, I'd start the game with Jack White and 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.760 at thirteen, possibly Jack whiteon playing there. I just said 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.640 they're not getting enough out of him in the centers, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.120 so Jack White, and then the moments that Brandon moves 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.680 into the thirteen, Jack might move in. He might move 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.520 to center. There he might have somewhere else in the 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.120 side that it just gives flexibility for Wayne to play 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:10.880 around with the team. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.080 Yep, I don't mind it. I don't want I'd like 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.600 I think if if they get him in this year 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.840 and he comes back from his rehab and everything, I'd 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.320 like to see him at fourteen. Start with fourteen. Oh yeah, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.520 take the punch out of it, and then twenty minutes 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.360 in let him off his leash. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.320 Definitely, you know, just because when. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.760 The impact he can have with his leg speed, Holy Hecker, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.360 that's a scary man. State of origin. All Right, we're 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.640 we're a couple of weeks away now, but the side's 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.560 getting picked this at the end of this weekend. We're 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.120 going to run through. First of all, we're gonna run 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.119 through the new Souwale side. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:43.960 He's got some depth's got lots of. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.000 It's actually a very hard team to pick. You know 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.120 why it's very hard team to pick because there's a 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.720 lot of people in form knocking the house down. But 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.200 there's a lot of people who you know will show 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.040 up and play good on the big stage, but they're 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.440 not playing their best footy. You know, there's a lot 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.200 of there's actually a lot of players. There's not a 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.680 heap of players who are who have been there and 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.200 done that and are in the form of their life 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.160 right now. Yeah, it's a very hard team to pa. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.320 It's an interesting one for Lourrie because you got I'm 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.640 a I'm not a huge fan of incumbency. There's a 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.920 caveat here, particularly when it's a losing series. I used 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.640 to frustrate the shit out of me coup All through 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.440 those losing series we had when Queensland's on that amazing 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.960 run with those amazing teams each single year, they go 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:31.400 who are going to pick? And they go, oh, yeah, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.520 but this guy's the incumbent. But hang on a second. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:38.040 Incumbency should not count for anything if you lose the series. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.600 Can I can. I'll give an allowance there to say 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.640 that if you've proved yourself over a long period of 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.440 time and you know, and you own that jersey and 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.600 you've proved to be a great player, like then okay 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.160 counts for a little bit. But for me, incumbency only 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:58.079 counts coming off of, you know, coming off a victorious series, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:08:59.720 and we have that at the moment. Now, this is 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.319 interesting for Laurie because, as you just said, some of 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.480 the players aren't in great form. There's some players playing better. However, 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.400 these blokes did it the year before and they got 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.319 the experience. They know what it takes. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.800 So pick and Nathan Cleary. Oh shit, Okay, well. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.960 Let's just see do you want to go? 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.040 Are we going to go? We'll go position for positions. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:19.400 Position. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:20.440 You start a fullback. 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.720 I've gone, Dylan Edwards. I've gone, I've gone Dylan. He did. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.280 He did it last year. I mean, it took a 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.400 lot for him to earn, you know, to get that jersey, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.640 to earn that spot. Last year he took it and 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.360 he was fantastic. And the bottom line is with state 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.840 of origin, ninety percent of the game is yardage and 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.960 that's where he could That's where he is so good. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.040 He just works his ass off. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.440 Yeah. Look, I've gone a bit different. Okay, bear with me. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.360 I've got a bit different. I think Ryan Papenhausen, Wow, 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.000 I think Perhaps deserves his chance. I think a couple 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.960 of years ago he was really close to getting a 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.079 fourteen spot, got hurt right in before it. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:54.440 Yep. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:56.960 But I think what Perhaps has been doing the last 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.920 few weeks, well, I think all year when when Melbourne's 0:09:59.920 --> 0:10:03.160 I on. His paps is on and he's Yeah, like 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.280 you said, the yardage. The yardage thing is one of 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.160 those things where you know, perhaps isn't the biggest bloke, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.880 so they might target him, be able to get under him. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.720 But he handled He's really strong and he handles himself. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.840 And I think the players you put around him can 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.240 give him a bit of expectedly bloke like Brian toe 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.079 and stuff. They give him. They take a lot of 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:20.360 the work off him in that yardage. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.040 Well, if if you're not big, which he isn't, perhaps, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.720 but you have to be, you've got to be quicksilver. Yeah, 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.880 which is I mean Billy? That was Billy. You know 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.720 he gets through those half gaps and yeah, this is 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:36.000 I reckon, Laurie. Coops will be sitting there now going 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.280 how the hell do I get Peraps into my squad? 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.400 Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you can put 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.199 him at fourteen just because I will come to that. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.800 Yeah, you get to that, but that's what that's. That's yeah, Coop, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.599 and a lot of people with you. My god, we 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.839 have so many good fullbacks. Perhaps we got Teddy, we 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.840 got Dillan there, We've got Ton Travoi Latreil. Yeah, probably's 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.920 probably another one or too we've left out there, but anyway, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.760 it's just dream is dream Buller I'm not eligible for 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.880 I'm not sure. I think he might be Fiji now 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:11.360 that their two nations. Yeah, I'm not would be a plant, 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.520 but I see what Jesus, it's a long line full 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.240 weeks as well. Ko playing good playing, really play. It's 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.280 the age of the fullback. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:21.359 Who are you wingers? 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.280 Okay, A bit to talk about here. I'm desperate to 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.880 pick Tom Tom Travoyvitch and once I named this back line, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.760 I'll go back and I'll read it out and you 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.880 tell me if I just can't see if you pick 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.720 the right side. I can't see how they give beats 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.160 some of these iconic players. I'm desperate to pick Tom, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.080 but he's got to be for me. I want him 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.800 to be at least ninety five percent fit. Yeah, just 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.679 worry me a little bit in the weekend without knee 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.480 seems to be carrying that knee problem a little bit. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.120 So okay, without naming, without just on the surface of things, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:55.120 without considering injury, I go Tom Travovich one wing and 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.240 on the other wing. This is hard. It was done 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.080 over a long period of time. But lo Max was 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.079 so good last year. I almost this week Lomax and 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.280 having like a shootout for that spot. But if Tom 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:09.600 is ruled out one wing, Lomax the other wing. Again, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.760 state of origin is ninety percent yardage. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.240 Okay, so just just for your side, who are we Okay, okay, okay, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.000 you're sitting on a fan, Okay, Tom, Travoivich Brian to Okay, good, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.040 that's right. Like I had the exact same I had Turbo, 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.440 and I think they've got They're both excellent yardage. Turbo's 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.640 got a big you can kick for in big aerial 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.200 threat and he floats. He's a little bit like that 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.840 Jordan Rappner when when you put him on the wing, 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.000 he can sort of show up anywhere, which is dangerous. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.880 Remember the year that they really wound the clock back 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.520 New South Wales and Latrell and Turbo would swing together. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.280 Yeah swingers, yeah. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.720 So to speak. But I mean you think about this, right, 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:57.040 with Tom having the ability to float, with Stephen Crichton 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.200 and Latrell having the ability to float, I mean just 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.840 just imagine for us second you've worked alongside and swinging 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.560 around the other side. You've got let's say, for instance, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.000 Latrell and Tommy swinging around together to link up with 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.160 Stephen Crichton. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.559 And even crit is a swinger too. Imagine it. Imagine 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.439 closure eized thinking about this for a second. We had Latrelle, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.440 Critter and Turbo all swinging at like over one edge 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:20.960 at one time. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.000 That's what I just said. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.240 It'd be like it'd be like rugby union. It actually 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.360 be like a union's bloody back line. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.960 Like to think about that. Look, it's it's very very straightforward. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.400 Latrell left center, Stephen Crichton right center. It reminds like 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:41.960 I grew up in the you know, origin through the 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.240 eighties where Queensland had a great dominance through the eighties 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.199 with iconic players, well Wally Lewis, but Latrell, Mitchell, Stephen Crichton. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.200 For me, that's like malmon Inger and June Miles, those 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.719 two blokes. I look at those two blokes. When I've 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.080 got Latroll, Mitchell and Stephen Crichton the side, I just go, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:58.719 how can they beat us? 0:13:58.840 --> 0:13:59.360 Yeah? 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.440 I win the two sheet. You're in the opposition dressing 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.959 you know, you're in the Queensland dressing room. All of 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.959 a sudden, the team sheet comes through New South Wales 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.520 and he's got the sounds like Troll Mitchell, Stephen Crichton, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.439 you got Tom Trevoy vision, You'll be going, okay. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.760 Yeah, that's pretty it's a it's a scary back line. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.360 I had the exact same center, Combo saying, so we've 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.760 basically got our centers and wingers are the exact same 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.040 Latrelle Critter Turbo. We just I had, perhaps you had 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.000 Dylan Edwards, but yeah, I think those centers and wingers 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.560 are they nearly picked himself. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.600 A lot to talk about here as far as the 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:31.440 halves concerned. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.400 Yeah, who have. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.240 You got Nathan locked in? I've got Nathan locked in 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:35.640 at seven. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.360 I've got Nathan as my seven. I think. Look, and 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.480 this was one of the ones where Penrith haven't been 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.560 playing outstanding. Nathan's still been doing a good job, not 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.000 not to the standard that he always has been playing. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.000 Yeah, I think I think in the last two weeks 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.120 he's been very, very good. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.760 Yeah, but you know, as a season as a whole, 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.960 he'd be he'd be, you know, disappointed with how the 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.920 team's been going. But I think Nathan's just one of 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.880 those blokes where you put him on a big stage 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.040 and he just delivers every time. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.040 He's the best player, in my opinion, is the best 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:06.680 player in the world. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:07.000 Yeah. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.520 Yeah. At the end end of the day, he had 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.960 he made some adjustments to his football. I've said this before. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.560 You know that the little drop off shapes, the X 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.480 shapes they were playing where he was drifting dropping guys 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.000 underneath him. That led to too much east west movement 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.840 from he lost somebody his upfield thrust. But the last 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.600 two weeks he has been playing game barrel straight and 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.080 you can see the difference. It's not just made to 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.200 the football side, but the difference has made to Blaze, 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.880 to Laney. He's coming to his own and that is 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.840 because of the adjustment Nathan's football. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.480 You seen that Cowboys game, Blaze had four triasis and 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.720 a try, and I think three of those triaces come 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.000 off off the back of something Nathan did. Nathan got 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.640 a quick play the ball, Blaze got it, or Nathan 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.680 just gave him a half opportunity to run and set 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:54.320 someone else up. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.680 So you can sue the benefit Nathan being like his 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.360 experience and how good he be as a coach given 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.760 the fact that on the weekend, if you look at 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.880 a couple of that tries the Blaze set up, it's 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:10.000 Nathan going wosh dead straight, him feeding Blaze, coming around 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:16.200 on the sweep, and then Blaze straightening exactly the same 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.800 as Nathan. And I'm looking going mate, Nathan, showing you 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.200 that Nathan's gone. Mate. When I do this, you compliment 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:29.040 my play by doing exactly the same to go first, Yeah, yeah, gone. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:34.720 I picked Jerome Leui. I think my judgment come off 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.480 the back of I've put Peraps at fullback, somebody who 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.520 Nathan hasn't played with a lot, so somebody who Nathan 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.280 knows game inside and out, Jerome Lewi. And I think 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.960 I think perhaps would complement these players because obviously Nathan 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.880 plays very straight and they both love coming back against 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.960 the grain and sort of beaten tackles. Particularly Jerome, a 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.040 bloke like Paps, who's always sitting on the inside, always 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.240 looking for a gap in the defense. I think really 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:00.920 compliment each other. 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.040 Well, a lot of energy there and there a lot 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:03.960 of energy, a lot of. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.879 Horrible to be a middle in coinslane when you've got 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.760 those folks jumping around making your miss tackles. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.760 This is this could be. This is probably Laurie's biggest 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:20.919 decision to make because Cooper Mitchell, like Mitchell, Moses and 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.400 and Nathan. I look at that on paper and both 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.520 with a caple, I go wow. Okay, however can be problematic. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:33.199 You know, Chemistry is just is so videly important. Chemistry 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.440 in the halves is more important than your plays and 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:42.080 your structures, having chemistry, that combination that forms, and you've 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:46.480 got to look at those two. Okay, is Mitchell onely 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.359 Mitchell can answer this. Are you happy, Mitchell too for 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.000 you to take two steps backwards for Nathan or is 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.919 it the other way? Now? I think it'd be Nathan 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.359 being the primary playmaker. Mitche take a couple of stairs. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.800 But are you capable of doing that? Or are you 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.600 to Blake's gonna play together like seven's and just step 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.040 on each other's toes. And you don't really know that, Coop, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.240 until the pressure starts, you know, and there's fatigue, and 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.240 sometimes unfatigued, you just fall back into what you normally do. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.720 And so yeah, I know what you mean. You know, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.800 with Jerome, you've got someone who plays alongside Nathan, has 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.520 played alongside him since junior football he's you know, in essence, 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.160 he is a six. He's a deputy, although he's doing 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.800 a lot different now at the Tigers, and you know 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.000 the combination works. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:30.479 Who have you gone? 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.399 Which then why the fuck do I then go Nathan 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:42.200 Cleary and Mitchell Moses. I've I've gone Mitchell Moses. I've 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.879 gone Mitchell given what he did last year in the 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.040 State of Origin. I don't think it, I know, but 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.000 I'm just getting I'm getting a real sense of now 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.639 what Laurie be going through. Laury be thinking. Laurie was 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.440 on the ninety to niney Kangaroo Tour and in Game 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.239 one the best two players in the world at that 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.040 point were Alan Langer and Ricky Stewart. They were the 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.600