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Speaker 2: State of origin just around the corner. Yes, New so

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Speaker 2: Well's Blues versus Queensland Marines. But you guys know that

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Speaker 2: we're going to pick our sides today previewing into the

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Speaker 2: Sunday selection. Lots of speculation, lots of people out of form,

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Speaker 2: lots of people in form. Who will they pick? Will

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Speaker 2: they pick and stick? We don't know that. But lots

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Speaker 2: going on in the game. We want to quickly touch on.

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Speaker 2: Matthew twenty twenty seven. The Perth Bears are coming in,

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Speaker 2: the North City Bears taking a return. A lot of

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Speaker 2: speculation this week around the coaches. Malma Ninger's being tossed

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Speaker 2: up or he has thrown his hat into the ring?

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Speaker 1: Which fantastic?

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Speaker 2: Do you like it?

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Speaker 1: I like it? I like it a lot? Is if

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Speaker 1: you have a look at when sporting teams will move

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Speaker 1: to cities sometimes markets where they're the second team. As such,

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Speaker 1: they'll put an iconic guy in to coach. So the

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Speaker 1: two examples I'll use here the Sydney Swes. When they

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Speaker 1: He's such an iconic figure. I think he will draw

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Speaker 1: being the Australian coach and having relationships with players, he'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be good I mean Sammy, he'd be good too, right,

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Speaker 1: You've got to sell You've got to sell it over there,

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Speaker 2: The impact he can have with his leg speed, Holy Hecker,

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Speaker 1: Let's just see do you want to go?

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Speaker 2: Are we going to go? We'll go position for positions.

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Speaker 1: I've gone, Dylan Edwards. I've gone, I've gone Dylan. He did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I've gone a bit different. Okay, bear with me.

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Speaker 2: I've got a bit different. I think Ryan Papenhausen, Wow,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get to that, but that's what that's. That's yeah, Coop,

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Speaker 2: Who are you wingers?

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Speaker 1: to be at least ninety five percent fit. Yeah, just

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Speaker 2: Okay, so just just for your side, who are we Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: you're sitting on a fan, Okay, Tom, Travoivich Brian to Okay, good,

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Speaker 2: that's right. Like I had the exact same I had Turbo,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Rappner when when you put him on the wing,

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Speaker 1: Remember the year that they really wound the clock back

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Speaker 2: Yeah swingers, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And even crit is a swinger too. Imagine it. Imagine

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Speaker 1: That's what I just said.

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Speaker 2: It'd be like it'd be like rugby union. It actually

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Speaker 1: Like to think about that. Look, it's it's very very straightforward.

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Speaker 1: I win the two sheet. You're in the opposition dressing

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Speaker 1: you got Tom Trevoy vision, You'll be going, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty it's a it's a scary back line.

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Speaker 2: I had the exact same center, Combo saying, so we've

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Speaker 1: A lot to talk about here as far as the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who have.

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Speaker 1: You got Nathan locked in? I've got Nathan locked in

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Speaker 2: I've got Nathan as my seven. I think. Look, and

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Speaker 2: this was one of the ones where Penrith haven't been

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Speaker 2: playing outstanding. Nathan's still been doing a good job, not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, as a season as a whole,

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Speaker 1: He's the best player, in my opinion, is the best

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Speaker 2: You seen that Cowboys game, Blaze had four triasis and

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Speaker 1: So you can sue the benefit Nathan being like his

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Speaker 2: Nathan hasn't played with a lot, so somebody who Nathan

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of energy there and there a lot

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Speaker 1: This is this could be. This is probably Laurie's biggest

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Speaker 1: You know, Chemistry is just is so videly important. Chemistry

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Speaker 1: But are you capable of doing that? Or are you

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Speaker 1: he is a six. He's a deputy, although he's doing

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Speaker 2: Who have you gone?

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Speaker 1: Which then why the fuck do I then go Nathan

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Speaker 1: I'm just getting I'm getting a real sense of now

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Speaker 1: on the ninety to niney Kangaroo Tour and in Game

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Speaker 1: they were in. So Bob Fulton just said, rode our

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Speaker 1: Game one on Wembley, I'm going to play Alp seven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Mitch could do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think Mitch has got a strong enough ability to

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Speaker 1: Well. I asked Cooper Kronk about this, because when Cooper

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Speaker 1: helped that combination. I remember watching it one night Coops

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Speaker 1: at some Corps stadium from an elevated position, and I

431
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 1: was seeing to himself Kronk and Thurston, you know, like, okay,

432
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 1: how is this going to work? When they work the

433
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: ball to the middle field and they're both dominant playmakers,

434
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: and as you know, when you move the ball in

435
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, you generally end up with

436
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: a five to five splits. So new the players got

437
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: really a numerical advantage. And I was watching that game

438
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 1: and in the first half of particularly they're both called

439
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: off for the football. But the bloke in at nine

440
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: was the genius Smith. Cameron Smith would walk up to

441
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,719
Speaker 1: the ruck and he would assess the defense knowing they

442
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: were both calling for the ball and firing to the

443
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: side that he believes was the thing.

444
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Speaker 2: I remember Smith, you saying the same thing to Harry

445
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: when we were young at Storm. So the whole thing

446
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: because our spine at the Falcons was very similar to

447
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: how they played. It was perhaps at full back on

448
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, myself and Harry, and it was perhaps

449
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: always one of the footy. And he had the mentality

450
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: like Billy Slater or he always wants the footy, he

451
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: always wants his hands on it. Try to think attack.

452
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 2: If he makes a mistake. Don't worry about it. I

453
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: do the same thing. And then Smithy said, how you know,

454
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 2: how do you dictate when to give it to that

455
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: like when to give to that player? And he said

456
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Speaker 2: this to Harry and myself because I was having to

457
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: pass to perhaps a lot of the time. He said,

458
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: let them call for it as many they might call

459
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: for it ten times. You might only give it to

460
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: him once. You base your judgment whether you not off

461
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 2: whether they want the footy, but off what you see.

462
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, Smithy used to say that

463
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: all the time, because if you give it to Slatsy

464
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: every time he might drop it. He might drop it

465
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: or make him a fullsome mistake. But you know, be

466
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: very select make it. The best thing you can have

467
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: is your player is the key players wanting the ball

468
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: in their hands doesn't mean you have to give it

469
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: to all well.

470
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: Cooper Kronk said that when he first went into half

471
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Speaker 1: back of the Melbourne Storm, he said, the first few

472
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: months he found really unnerving because Billy just never stopped

473
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: talking and never stopped tipping him inside ball. He was

474
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Speaker 1: sitting here, look at this, they're short, he said. After

475
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: a while I realized that noise was always going to

476
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: be there. He was just presenting options to me. Yeah,

477
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: you know, you take the advice. Other times you ignore it.

478
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 1: You black it out, blanket out.

479
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: What's our front row? Yeah, I'll go first.

480
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Speaker 1: See this is another really big one.

481
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Speaker 2: I reckon. We might have a similar one here. At

482
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Speaker 2: eight and ten, I had Pain Hess and Mitch Barnett,

483
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: and then Ryce Robson was my number nine.

484
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so the middles in the front row. Okay, the

485
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Speaker 1: front row okay, yeah, I've got Mitch Barnett, I've gone

486
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Speaker 1: Pain Hass and my front row, my hooker is going

487
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: to be is going to be Ryce Robson. Yeah, yeah, yep, So.

488
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: That side sort of there. The incumbents really yeah, I

489
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: think they sort of picked himself.

490
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: And Mitch has proved himself. He suits origin level, He's

491
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: tough as nails. He's playing great football at the Warriors.

492
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, as his pain Pain Pains playing outstands and Reece

493
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: Robson's been doing it, particularly the last few weeks. He's

494
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: been doing a really good job.

495
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: He was fantastic last year.

496
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he was unbelievable. He's got a good running

497
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: game and he's a machine gets for a heap of work.

498
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: Think about riech Robson. If he was a Queenslander, they'd

499
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: pick him up. Of course, you know, of course he's

500
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Speaker 2: one of those players. Of course would Let's get let's

501
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: get to thirteen now before we do back thirteen. My

502
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: thirteen is Isaiah. Oh, and he's the skipper. But I

503
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: had Isaiah there. I think obviously everyone knows how good

504
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: Isaiah is. But yeah, he's sort of picks himself. In

505
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: my opinion, I've gone ja tro Voivich starting thirteen. Wow, Okay,

506
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: that's a hot take.

507
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: Yep. Let's talk about why I would select him. First

508
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: of all, why, sorry, why I would not leave him out?

509
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: Because coops A couple of times in the past, there's

510
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: been a couple of series we've left Jake out of

511
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: game one, they haven't selected him, and invariably for game

512
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: two and three they select him. So what is it

513
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: about Jake? What is about him that when he's not selected?

514
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: What do they miss so much? And why do they

515
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: have to get him back? Well, it's not his passing game.

516
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: He's a hell of a defender. It's not really that,

517
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: it's what he brings as far as emotion is concerned. Like,

518
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I think he's the most emotional player

519
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: in the competition. How he gets himself sky high emotion, Coop,

520
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: getting yourself up for a game is a skill. He's

521
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: a skill in itself. And when you get a player

522
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: who's like that in the dressing room, he elevates others

523
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: around him. Okay, then why do I pick him at thirteen?

524
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: And why do I put Isaiah on the bench. I'm

525
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: really conscious that Coops, if we're going to have if

526
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: my side, if I'm going to have Mitch Moses and

527
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary to start the game, I don't know if

528
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I want another ball handler out there. I just pushing

529
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: the ball east where it's pushing the sideways a little bit.

530
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: So I'd start the game a lot more simple. I'd

531
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: put Isaiah and on the bench and bring him on

532
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: after twenty minutes when you can really start, when it

533
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: starts to open up through that defensive vulnerability through the

534
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: middle of the field. And the other thing on top

535
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: of that is I want Nathan to start the game

536
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: up on the advantage line, right on the rock line,

537
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: and I want him running the football. I want him

538
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: playing first receiver, and I want him playing nice and

539
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: straight and challenging the line. And I think sometimes if

540
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: you're going to start Isaiah, he may get into the

541
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: groove of gone on sweep shapes, shapes all the time.

542
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: I want Nathan out there finding his groove, okay, by

543
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: his own accord. And then after about twenty minutes twenty

544
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: five minutes, Isaiah comes on and that combination forms yep.

545
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: I like the reasoning. I yeah, you've won me back

546
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: pretty well. My back row, Angus Crichton and Leam Martin.

547
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: I think everyone's got them as a lock at the moment.

548
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good back rollers, but I think

549
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: I think they probably make their way onto the bench

550
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: as opposed. I think what these two did last year,

551
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: they were the two of the best people on the field.

552
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: But Crichton was played with seriously want yeah aut Crichton,

553
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: He's the lowest, But like I think he symbolized our

554
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: dominance over over Queensland last year. Oftentimes it's Queensland Queensland's

555
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: forwards and in the past bullying us made he turned

556
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: the table on that. Some of the things Angus did

557
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: in that game last year made he ironed out Ruben

558
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: Cotter at one point I've never seen Reuben toppled over

559
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: like that.

560
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, even Lee Martin too, and Marn's kick chases. He's

561
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: an animal. You terror both of them if you're half.

562
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: And he's been and like and Liam and himself. He's

563
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: had difficult starts at the season, but put him on

564
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: that big stage and you know he's just he's going

565
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: to go after it. He's going to be he's going

566
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: to be eight out of ten.

567
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's go fourteen to seventeen.

568
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: You do it, you're straight. I've got Connor Watson because

569
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I look at that wheat in my side. I had

570
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: to look around and thought to myself, at one point,

571
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: would I'll be able to slip Paps into fourteen? But

572
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm looking around the team and in my opinion, like

573
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: there's if something happens and recent needs a break or

574
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: he goes down touch what it doesn't happen. I don't

575
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: know who else goes into that nine position. So And

576
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: kind of was great there last year and he could

577
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: play thirteen. He can, so it kind of goes into fourteen.

578
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: Isaiah Yas has said before he's the next player on

579
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: the bench. Hudson Young and Spencer and you Hudson. Hudson

580
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: brings that speed and mobility. He's have a great start

581
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: to the season. Those fast foot through the middle caused

582
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: a lot of problems in Spencer again, a little bit

583
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: like Jake. It's the emotion he brings.

584
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: We've got a very similar one, except obviously I've got

585
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: Jake Chavorovich on my bench. I picked Jake t morale

586
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: and energy man emotion, but my number fourteen kind of

587
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: Watson fifteen Hudson Young could have started, Honey. He's playing

588
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: unbelievable the moment. Hudson's absolute peace. He's probably the form

589
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: background of the whole camp sixteen Spencer Lanu, seventeen, Jake

590
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Travoyvitch and then eightieth Man. Tough to miss out Torell Mate.

591
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got him as well, eighteenth Tough tough to.

592
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: Miss out Torell. But I think there's just a few,

593
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: there's a few too many income but he might be

594
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: one for a game two or three, depending on how

595
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: they go.

596
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: I think the whole experience going up as eighteenth Man,

597
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: the whole build up, state of origin, it'll be really,

598
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: really really good for Terrell. Sometimes, particularly at sun Court Stadium,

599
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: you go into it. No, you have the rope, but

600
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: you can't. You can go into it a little bit

601
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: like the first oad of a State of Origin. I

602
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: played as much as I watched it on TV. It

603
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: wasn't until the second and third game that I actually

604
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: understood how I had to prepare for it because such

605
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: a different style of football. So I think as far

606
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: as preparations concerned, I think Terrell going in as eighteenth

607
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: and just watching how people like Jake roy Which prepare

608
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: and Isaiah prepare, I think you put him in great stead.

609
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: Big regret.

610
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: As for is Ryan Pappenhausen, Yeah, perhaps deserves a crack

611
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: and look teddy tough to miss out to another bloke

612
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: who didn't really get tossed up. But when I was

613
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: doing my research and look and I was like, he's

614
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: tough to miss out too. He could. He could end

615
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: up a really good forteen. He's big enough. Ethan Strange.

616
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hasn't been mentioned his Dale come. Yeah, I know.

617
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: He's young and he's but that Raiders team at the moment,

618
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 2: he's a big part of it. And he's a gun.

619
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: He's so gun and he's a big fellow. He could

620
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: probably play through the middle if you couldn't find him

621
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: in the background.

622
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: That's an amazing thing, isn't There's some guys that on

623
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: camera look like huge, but when you meet it not

624
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: quite as big. Ethan always to me always like a

625
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: smaller guy. And then I saw him and went, is

626
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: that he isn't strange? He hides that size.

627
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: And he played He played center all through junior's and

628
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 2: played New South Wales eighteen's and that at center. So

629
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: you can put he's kind of got that ford emability

630
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: where you go put him in the halves. You can

631
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: put him in the back line, and I'm sure he could.

632
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if you gave him a bit of tackle practice,

633
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: sure he could play nine if he had to. Look,

634
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: I've got a Queensland side.

635
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So what we decided to do is you said,

636
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: you said you're going to do Coensland and we'll have

637
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: a bit of discussion, Ay and your coueens Lands.

638
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, apsowee, So my back three little them straight off

639
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: Kaylen Ponger. I think he picks himself at the moment.

640
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: Brice Walsh out sort of makes a decision easier. Xavier

641
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: Coats and Selwyn Cobbo my wingers.

642
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Wow, that's a great that's a great back three.

643
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: That's a strong back three. Murray to a lungey. You

644
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: even know what it's like out there moment.

645
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: It's awful out there.

646
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: He's tough to miss out as well as a gun player.

647
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: But I think I'm just saying selling cobber Sell and

648
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: Cobbo I made the observation, I think the best the

649
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: best football I've seen him play at fullback. I think

650
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: his football has been fantastic, But when he goes back

651
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: to the wing, you watch him explode. All that work

652
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: he's doing at full back as far as fitness wise,

653
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: but also as far as tactical now will put him

654
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: in such great steed. In the way he's played this year,

655
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: I think he's setting himself up for a huge origin.

656
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: Serious sellwyn word my centers, Valentine, Holmes and hammerso tabio

657
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: I feeders.

658
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: Have does Valentine wound wound? The clockbacks just show you

659
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: change your club sometimes exactly what you need.

660
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Val, he's going excellent. Hammo, he's a free you know,

661
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: if you didn't have calin there, I mean he could

662
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: he could slip in a full back. But he's one

663
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: of those players he's like Turbo. You just put him

664
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 2: in the side somewhere.

665
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Well, you think about last week that that last play

666
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Dylan Brown against the Dolphins. If Hammer's not the fullback there,

667
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: Dylan Brown possibly scores and they possibly win the game.

668
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: But he just turns around. Just picked him up in

669
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: the strada too, just.

670
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: Like that, Just like that, bam, and the dirty's gone.

671
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 2: My haves Cameron Monster and Dally Terry Evans. Yeah, I

672
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: think they. Munster is back to some really good form

673
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: this year. I think he probably had a bit, you know,

674
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: a bit in and out of games last year, but

675
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: and he had some injuries that groin. But this year

676
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: I think he's fit. He's playing outstanding. And Ches I think, look,

677
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: chess is the chairs. You know, he's a champion. I

678
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: know he probably hasn't been playing the best the last

679
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: few weeks. For me, the whole team hasn't really been

680
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: playing that good. But Chas you know, he's going to

681
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: get in that jersey and he's going to play.

682
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that the d C stuff, the chess

683
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: stuff has really impacted mainly I tend to think it has.

684
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it did. I think it does. But I

685
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: think the identity of mainly the last three years is

686
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: like start really strong and then they kind of fall

687
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: off a cliff and like they're very they've been inconsistent

688
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: the last three years as well. I wouldn't be confident

689
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: enough and saying it's it's this contract thing that's hanging

690
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: over there, ed because because it's been there identally the

691
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: last few years where they have these purple patches where

692
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: they're amazing and then they go a month where they

693
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: play really poor football.

694
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: I expect some bounced back last week. It's can give

695
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: them the fact they come off the buy that a

696
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: week rest. But poll, I think it's impacting daily. I

697
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: think it has because you know, one minute, you know,

698
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: to give them the fact that look, let's face it,

699
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: he's had a fall out with the club and he's

700
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: wearing the colors and going on there that that's I know,

701
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: he's an experienced guy, he's thirty seven years of age,

702
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: most experienced blake in the league. But still it impacts.

703
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, maybe you're right. I know one Chez

704
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: everything is water off a ducks back for chessa day

705
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: like nothing. I've never seen anything really phasing right, So

706
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: to me, I'm like I don't know if that's why.

707
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't know if it has it's

708
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: just that kind of personality, but the looks definitely something's

709
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: going on, like they're too good a side to be

710
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: performing like they have the last few weeks. But I'm

711
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: sure we'll see him improve my front row eight to eight, nine,

712
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: ten here Big Tino comes back into the side. They

713
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: missed Team Dunboy last year. Oh man Tino is. He's

714
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: what he's done for Bloody Gold Coast this year as

715
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: well when he's been on that.

716
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: Man's he's not a man, he's a machine.

717
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: That's is it a man or a mountain? That man

718
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: is a behemoth and he's playing excellent foot so shout

719
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: out to your teen trying not to bring a ringworm

720
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: all the way through the coins and camp.

721
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Is he patient zero?

722
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's patient X.

723
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: He is. He is.

724
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: He's got the X number nine. Harry Grant, Harry Hooden.

725
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: If you're going to be okay, you're gonna be fit.

726
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: I think you will be. I think he will be.

727
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean when this comes out, he should be playing

728
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: this weekend. He probably get one game under his belt.

729
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: He's the kind of blow people like he doesn't lose

730
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: a whole heap of fitness. He'll be working his ass

731
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: off in a rehab to maintain that sort of fitness.

732
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: And he always lifts. He just lifts. You gotta lift

733
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 2: number ten.

734
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: So you guy Sebastians his Achilles tandent.

735
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: You've got Sebastian to his achilles. You should have should

736
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: have stayed on the.

737
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: Stadium, staying your laying Guy, just stick to music.

738
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Brother. Yeah, if you want to listen to guy's story,

739
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: go back into early catalog. We had him on the

740
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: potty last year. Yeah, didn't, and he was talking about

741
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: how much he loved Afel. Remember he kept saying, here

742
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: you feel this, hef all that. Well, that's what happens

743
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: to man. You try to lace up the boots.

744
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: Remember I said he must mate, you'll be careful. You

745
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: might do your Achilles tandent.

746
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: You did. I'm pretty sure it's plan. The number ten.

747
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: Lindsey Collins Lynz Coggins is an animal. The Beast and

748
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: him have an excellent feud. Back row Jeremiah and I

749
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: and Baby Feet firmore good good selection both for more.

750
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: I think they're really slim in the back row coins

751
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: land A couple other blows jayd and Sewer and I

752
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: think tough to miss out.

753
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: But Moore is a great selection.

754
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: I love both. I love it. I love him trotting feet,

755
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: his little big he's an animal. And the other back

756
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: row was SR Jeremiah and is on five. I think

757
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 2: he's been playing really good. I think especially the last month,

758
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: I think he just is it. He looked fit and

759
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: he's back to competing on just everything. Remember we first

760
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: come into first game. Every time a ball will go up,

761
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Jeremiah just go through charge and get up.

762
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what side he plays on. His

763
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 1: combination with the center will be sweet because he's played

764
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: with him and he's played with.

765
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 2: Val Corrector third e and Patty Carrigan straightforward, straight forward.

766
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: Now this is my bench fourteen. They've got a couple

767
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: of good options. A lot of people don't talk about

768
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: Kurt Man. Kirk Man has been playing excellently. He's Queenslander.

769
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: I think Keller will do a really good job. I've

770
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: actually picked Tommy Didon as the fourteen. I think he's

771
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: tough enough to play through the middle. Tommy and you

772
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: just put him out there. He's just a workhorse. But

773
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: I mean killer Killer will do a good job. Took man.

774
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: So who's fourteen? Tommy did pick himself.

775
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: Tommy picks himself fifteen debutant Ring Ring Ring the debutante

776
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Bell Trent Liio. I've got twenty blue Eyes his debut.

777
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: I think he's since he's moved to Locke for Melbourne

778
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, year and a half, I

779
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: think he's been doing an excellent job and I think

780
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: it's a time to get a crack on the bench.

781
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: It's Jack Howarth. He's injured at the moment.

782
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: He queens Queenslander, Queenslander Jackie. Yeah, j Howe is He

783
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: calls himself j w H because his middle name is

784
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: starts with the W, so he's been calling himself j

785
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: w H. That's good. He does he point break? He

786
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: wants to come on the potty too, does he really?

787
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

788
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: He wants to come on the potty. He keeps saying.

789
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: He keeps saying, mate, should I email your dad about

790
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: getting me on the potty? He doesn't have a fucking email.

791
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Send him a text.

792
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: And he's also nominated you for the ice pocket challenge

793
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: as well. He ragged me the other day. I said, mate,

794
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: I just went. Can you let your dad know I've

795
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: nominated him for the Ice Pocket Challenge, I said, mate,

796
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: the Ice Pocket Challenge. No one's done that since twenty fifteen.

797
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: You fucking tell him to remove my name from his mind.

798
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he keeps, he keeps sledging. But trentle Ero and

799
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: then number sixteen Tommy Gilbert. Yeah, tough, tough, tough, he's

800
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: tough man. They missed him last year. I think he's

801
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: one of those blokes who play on the edge, playing

802
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: in the middle and then lastly but not leastily, let

803
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: me tell you that much. Ruben Cotter seventeen. Okay, I

804
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: think he can play front row. You can put in

805
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: the back staple.

806
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: Mate. You know, mate, you've missed out one. I reckon

807
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: in the costure, Corey Haws bro Big Bread, I know

808
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Big Red.

809
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: There's actually two that I had from eighteenth Man, who

810
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: I think are very hard done by, but Ethan Bullymore.

811
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: I think Bull in China Shop has been playing really

812
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: good for manly when it comes off the bench so

813
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: much leak speed, put a lot of Bigcoin, Bully and

814
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: then obviously Big Red, Corey Horse. I've been doing an

815
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: excellent job. But I just sat. Yeah, that was the

816
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: team I selected for Coins.

817
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: And it's a good side. It's going to be some

818
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: sort of series. It's gonna be great.

819
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: You know what's this time of the year, guys when

820
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: State of Origin rolls around. Doesn't matter whether you're single, divorced, whatever,

821
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: you just have such a good time. The speculation, the rivalry,

822
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: it's always a good game. It's always fine. You've got

823
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: trel Mitt turning into treil Fit this year's kicking field goals.

824
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: He's making try saving tackles. I am excited for this year.

825
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: It's going to be a very in the build up,

826
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: very almost traditional State of Origin builder, given the fact

827
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: that on paper you look at the New South Wales

828
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: side and you go, oh my god, it's just littered

829
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: with stars. And then you look at Coinsland inside's got

830
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: a number of stars there. They're going to be tough,

831
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: hard working, so it's like it almost becomes this traditional series.

832
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: But I didn't have Monster last year, you know Queensland,

833
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: so yeah, and he's we all know what monsters like

834
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: in State of Oregon.

835
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Okay, question for you. I've got my suspicions here because

836
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: you were so urgent to mate, I'll put together MC

837
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: queensly inside and just the way you spoke about them,

838
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: that little green about Monster and talking about Harry. Who

839
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: you going for?

840
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: I go for you so well. No, I just I

841
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: try to be objective, you know, as as as one

842
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: of the great rugby league minds, Matt, I try to

843
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: just be completely objective, not be biased, because when when

844
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: bias starts coming to things. Yeah, I mean so, I

845
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: try to speak just as excitedly about Queensland, which is

846
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: easy for me because some of my best mates played

847
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: for him as I do for you.

848
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: So well, I'm with you. I'm just warning if you

849
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: be objective, it's going to cost your relationship with Uncle

850
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Joey's what fuck?

851
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that about him. It's his birth day.

852
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Next week next week, yeah, next week, next week, next Monday, Ridday, Coops,

853
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: good job man who