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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed Q and A, where we

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Speaker 1: ask and answer questions about business, investing, economics, politics and more.

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Speaker 1: I'm Michael Thompson. A good morning, Sean Aylmer.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Michael.

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Speaker 1: Today, Sean, we've been back in the studio together for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now, and of course it is

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Speaker 1: the long weekend and really after Australia Day, everyone is back, right,

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Speaker 1: it just work just resumes as normal. So today we

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Speaker 1: are looking at the best, having now experienced this for

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Speaker 1: a few weeks, the best things about coming back to work.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you're just itching to flip that

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Speaker 1: and just go the things you dislike most about coming

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Speaker 1: back to work, but maybe we'll try and start in

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Speaker 1: a positive place. What do you like?

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, there's the obvious one, Michael, reconnecting with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my colleague speaking to you four or five times a day.

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Speaker 1: You love it. I love it when I ring you

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Speaker 1: And you're like, yes, what now that? Did you see that?

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Speaker 1: Now that there's the call screening feature on iPhones and

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Speaker 1: I think on the latest edition of the operating system

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Speaker 1: it's turned on that call screening by default for unknown numbers,

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Speaker 1: which means that if you're getting a lot of messages

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Speaker 1: on your phone that say that you've received a call,

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Speaker 1: but the phone never rang, it's because of that, which

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Speaker 1: I've noticed in the last couple of weeks getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of calls. So I was wondering why it was,

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Speaker 1: and then I suddenly saw a story online about the

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Speaker 1: fact that this feature has been turned on by default,

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Speaker 1: which explains why if you've been trying to ring me

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks and it feels like

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Speaker 1: I'm screening you, it's not deliberate anyway.

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Speaker 2: So reconnecting with colleagues, that's good. I also think you

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Speaker 2: get back to work and it's time to set new targets,

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Speaker 2: is sort of refreshed. It's good, you know, a bit

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Speaker 2: more purpose perhaps in your job. I kind of like

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Speaker 2: minute I love well, I do, actually I do love

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Speaker 2: our jobs. You know, we come in here, we find

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Speaker 2: out what's going on in the world.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: But Michael, the one which I'm sort of disappointed in saying,

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Speaker 2: I like, but it's kind of true. It's the routine,

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Speaker 2: you know, and especially I mean when the kids go

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Speaker 2: back to school this week, it is even more of

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Speaker 2: a routine. But you know, when you're on holidays for

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Speaker 2: a long time, you kind of miss the structure of

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Speaker 2: the day. You stay up later, you don't eat as well,

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Speaker 2: you don't do as much, you know, exercise necessarily. You

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Speaker 2: just your positive habits go out the door. So I

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Speaker 2: kind of like that part of coming back to work too.

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Speaker 1: I like a bit of predictability. Sean, you might have

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Speaker 1: gathered that about me. But the thing that I like

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Speaker 1: is that at the start of the year. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is a general thing, but I was

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Speaker 1: a productivity burst, right. I think suddenly you start back

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Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what, I can get a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff done here, and big stuff, stuff

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Speaker 1: that you might have put off last year. They're just like,

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Speaker 1: you know, just get in get it done, and you

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Speaker 1: do it before the fatigue sets in, which sets in

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Speaker 1: usually by the first week of February. So get in

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Speaker 1: there and get it done nice and quickly. And also

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Speaker 1: just from a business sense kind of people are keen

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Speaker 1: to have conversations, right because you've been running down the

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Speaker 1: clock towards the end of the year and everything gets

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Speaker 1: deferred to after Christmas. Yes, we'll talk about well, look

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Speaker 1: all this stuff after Christmas, all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 1: in the new year. Hey, what can we do? Let's talk?

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Speaker 1: So it's good, it's fun. All right, let's get on

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Speaker 1: the other side. Token effort about what we liked about

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Speaker 1: coming back to work. Now, what don't you like sean

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Speaker 1: email overload? Oh doesn't it drive you crazy?

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Speaker 2: You get there and so many emails you've got to

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Speaker 2: get through, and I'd just like to cancel them morning,

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Speaker 2: dump them, but I can't.

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Speaker 1: I feel I have to go through them.

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Speaker 2: That's bad. What about and this happened to us. We

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Speaker 2: got back to our desk at the Navas studios, and

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Speaker 2: of course you'd like to set up and just move on.

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Speaker 2: But no passwords have changed, haven't they? So you have

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Speaker 2: to find your IT guy to come and reset your password.

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Speaker 2: BEI soun't remember your old one or some system there

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Speaker 2: was some system change or something going on. Adding to

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Speaker 2: that the fact that my mouse had disappeared. Someone had

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Speaker 2: borrowed my mouse over Christmas, so you need a whole

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Speaker 2: new mouse. I mean, ah, man, the logistics are coming

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Speaker 2: back to work, don't they drive you mad? I?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I actually do find that, But I also wonder

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Speaker 1: how much of that is very specific to someone who

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Speaker 1: struggles to reset their password at the best of times.

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Speaker 1: And it's very fortunate for you that where we sit

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Speaker 1: is very close to the technology team and the tech

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Speaker 1: support team that you're able just to turn look over

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Speaker 1: your shoulder and follow out a little bit of help here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, Jean, what do you need? What do you

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Speaker 1: need this time? But yeah, no, I think that's I

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Speaker 1: think that's it. And the email overload is a big

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Speaker 1: issue because you've got to get through it all, and

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Speaker 1: they just they just keep coming, they just keep coming.

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Speaker 1: And I've lost count of the number of emails now

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Speaker 1: that I've already sent, even though we're only still in

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Speaker 1: January that are sorry for the delayed response. Like every

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Speaker 1: single email now starts with that, almost by default, because

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Speaker 1: I can assume that I have delayed the response in

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Speaker 1: some way, but really sorry ago.

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Speaker 2: Now another one, which I find frustrated. I kind of

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Speaker 2: like it for the first week, and then it becomes

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Speaker 2: really tiresome. The commute into the office, you know, like

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Speaker 2: you and I both catch public transport in I have mine.

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Speaker 2: At the beginning with, if you can read, you can

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Speaker 2: do some work. Yeah, but then we've also got like

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Speaker 2: a twenty five minute walk from the metro from the

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Speaker 2: train station to the office, and you just think how

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Speaker 2: much of your day is taken in commuting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also I think if I didn't

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Speaker 1: do that, would I get in the exercise. Probably not.

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Speaker 1: I'm really trying to start this year more positive rather

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Speaker 1: than complaining about things. Look for the silver lining in

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Speaker 1: all of it, Sean, And I'm saying, you know what,

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Speaker 1: my commute's good because I get some work done and

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Speaker 1: then I get some exercise. Ask me again on the

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Speaker 1: second of February, and I will be one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: in your camp the commuters BS, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to walk.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm actually doing this year? And

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Speaker 2: it's one of my kids put me onto it. So

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Speaker 2: this year I've got to do twenty five of something.

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Speaker 2: So for me, that's twenty five games ago fifty seventy five,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and one, twenty five, one fifty up to

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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty five. So two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five is two hundred and twenty five days. I'm not

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Speaker 2: eating chocolate this year, two hundred days of no alcohol

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Speaker 2: this year, one seventy five days of I can't quite

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Speaker 2: remember of reading. I've got to read for leisure as

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Speaker 2: opposed to work. One fifty days, I've got to do

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Speaker 2: gym one twenty five days, I've got to do run,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. So it's this little tags. I

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Speaker 2: have a little book and what I do on the commute.

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Speaker 2: This is why I was thinking about it. I write

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Speaker 2: down the day before what I've done, and it'll only

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Speaker 2: last a week.

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Speaker 1: I know that.

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Speaker 2: But well, no that's not true. It's lasted three weeks

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Speaker 2: so far. But that's my plan. I'll tell you how

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Speaker 2: I got at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: That is awesome. I love how some of those twenty

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Speaker 1: five games of golf it feels like you're really going

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Speaker 1: to have to That feels like a punishment, doesn't It

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's all.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's like forestry laxation. Yeah, yeah, and meditations

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Speaker 2: in this seventy five days of meditation, and I'd don't meditate.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's new. So trying new stuff as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: look at this. You know, we should start a new

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Speaker 1: Fear and Greed well Being podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that go well between you and I? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all the habits that we've picked up and then

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Speaker 1: dropped rapidly when we realized that you've actually got to

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Speaker 1: do it every day anyway. Okay, so these are the things, Sean,

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's what we love about coming back to work.

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Speaker 1: That's what we don't love about coming back to work.

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Speaker 1: I suspect it's a fairly universal list. I'd imagine, Sae.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's people that love the emails our Fear and

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Speaker 2: He'd love them. He'd doing through holidays, wouldn't he.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, there's no rest for that fella. All right,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Sean.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Michael.

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