1 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Three sixty Rugby League from every angle, brought to you 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: by Fort Everest joining me again in the Great Gordon Talents. 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: So it's been the journey Buzz Roth and Brent Reid. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: A massive day in Newcastle with breaking news around their 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: coach and their captain. It started with the coach Rudy, 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: but now there's talk around Kaylin Ponger. 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: What's going on. 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, the convias has been whispers around Callen Ponger for 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: some time in rugby union. He's contracted the Knights till 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: the end of twenty twenty seven, but an agent, a 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: New Zealand based agent rugby union agent, has been shopping 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: Calen around Europe. Now, I've been in contact with the 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Ponger camp today and there I didn't really get a 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: straight answer out of them, but what I gleaned from 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: their text messages is if he's been shopped around Europe, 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: it's been done without their them giving him the agent 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: of green light. 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 4: But that's what's having the man with Calm Ponger. He's 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: been shocked. 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: His name has been mentioned by this revel rugby competition 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: that's going on at the moment, So he is on 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: the radar of rugby and club's break. 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Very interesting buzz. The coach Adam O'Brien, what's the latest. 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 5: Well, i'll do it. Latest says yes. At about two o'clock, 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 5: I've got a text message from someone saying Adam O'Brien's 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 5: gone at the Newcastle Knights and will happen this week. 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 5: The story has now got out. They're now saying Adam 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 5: O'Brien will be punted from the Knights at the end 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 5: of the season. I've spoken to Peter Park, I've spoken 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 5: to Adam O'Brien. They do not know where the stories 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 5: come from. He's made the finals for the last five years. 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 5: Adam O'Brien. I think there's legs to the story. I 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 5: think he's really struggling to hold onto that job. The 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 5: problem these clubs have got right now is there's only 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: a few quality coaches left. If they don't go for 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: Hannah Now, if they don't go for Willie Peters. Now 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 5: they're worried the Cowboys will be at the Titans. So 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 5: everyone's getting news about when to strike and get the 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 5: coach they want. 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: Does came upoon and have any clauses in his contract Now. 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: It's a straight contract, so I would say if he's 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: being shopped to other sports, then that's in breach of 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: his book. 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: There's always been a question mark over Kaitl and his 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: future at Newcastle, whether he's happy there, does he sees 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: success there, He wants to win premierships, he wants to 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: play rugby union, and he's close to Adam O'Brien. So 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: you think if Adam O'Brien won't be there next year, 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: the future of him Caitlin at this club is in doubt. 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: Right Well, I think it's been doubt for a while 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: both regardless not I think the club will talk to 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: Kayleen tomorrow about now the story has come out to 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: get some clarity around what's actually happening and what Caylen 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: wants to do down the track with his future. Obviously, 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: as I said, contract for two years there. But these 56 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: whispers just been going round around and then you hear 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: that his name is on the radar of European rugby 58 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 3: union clubs. His name's been talked about over there. That's 59 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: a concern for the Is there a chance buzz I'll 60 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: come to you? Is there a chance that Newcastle could 61 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: let him go? Given the money he's on and the 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: results they've had there over the past few years. 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: Well, the way he's playing. You make a really really 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 5: good point because outside of the first two or three games, 65 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 5: he's had a really ordinary season for the highest paid 66 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 5: play in rugby league and he sort of limped his 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 5: way into that Origin team, didn't he when Reese Walsh 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 5: wasn't available and they didn't think of the hamlet fullback. 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 5: What I find with this story it so reminds me 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 5: of Sunny Bill Williams all those years ago. He had 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 5: a water tight contract at the Canterbury Bulldogs. He just 72 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: took off. It was a court case. He lost the 73 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 5: court case. He had to borrow money from Anthony Mundine 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 5: to pay a significant amount of money to Canterby to 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: get out of that contract. If Caitln has done this, 76 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: whether the agent's acting with Caitlin's approval, we don't know. 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, trouble. 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. Why don't think Calu go down 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: that path? 80 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: I think if he wanted to leave rugby league and 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: go to rugby Union at the end of the season, 82 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: he'll sit down with the Knights and look. 83 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: They were crazy to let him go. 84 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: Well they got They've got Fletcher Shark. He's on about 85 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: one point four one point three one point four million dollars. 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: He's missed the task past two seasons, large chunks of 87 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: it with Liz Frank injuries, so that haven't but Jurius, 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: but the Karlen it's injury related. But they haven't really 89 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: got their value for money out of him. And as 90 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: I said, they've got Fletcher Shark coming through, they got 91 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Dylan Brown going the next year. Maybe if Karlen sat 92 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: down with them and said, look, I want to go 93 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: and try n't want to play for the All Blacks, 94 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: I'm not sure they would say no to him. 95 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: Gordy. 96 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: I think they would at least have a conversation. 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 6: Well, do you think that the Knights are paying more 98 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 6: than what the All Blacks would be willing to pay? 99 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 6: Brad Dawn went across it was for less money. You 100 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 6: don't walk to the All Blacks and go over there 101 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 6: all more money to go to Europe. 102 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Make yes. Absolutely. 103 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: As for your suggestion that the Knights wouldn't want to 104 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 5: let him go, I have a wait. The last few years, 105 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 5: I've regarded Ponger in the top three players in the game, 106 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 5: up there with Cleary et cetera. On form we've seen 107 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 5: this shoe is not the top ten. He's slipped quite substantially. 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 5: And when you're paying the highest paid player in the 109 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 5: league one point five million dollars, it might be a 110 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 5: wise salary cap move with this usay Fletcher sharp around 111 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: to offloading. 112 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 6: Well, he's twenty seven, so at the deal what he'll 113 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 6: get off he'll be thirty when he signs his new deal. 114 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah somewhere else. Yeah. 115 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: I mean, he's out of a football and I'd hate 116 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: to see him leave the cove because he's been a star. 117 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: He's one of the biggest stars in our game. You 118 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: hate to see him go. But as I said, I 119 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: think the Knights will now sit down with him now 120 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: that we've broken their story. They'll sit down within the 121 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: next twenty four hours and they'll try to get some 122 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: clarity around what Calm wants. 123 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: It's a bit frustrating because Kaylen is a superstar and 124 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: has always had the potential to be the best player 125 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: in our game, but just struggled to stay on the 126 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: field for a long period of time and show us 127 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: what he's got for long periods, you know. And I 128 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: think Newcastle have been hurt by that with results, right. 129 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 130 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: The interesting thing is too Peter Sullivan told me probably 131 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 5: twelve weeks ago I did a big interview with him 132 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 5: about signing Dylan Brown and was wasted money. He said 133 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 5: he's next target was Ponger, and twelve weeks ago he said, 134 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 5: I'll see Andre and I'll see Ponger in about three 135 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: or four weeks and then I'll show them that we got, 136 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 5: you know what we got to offer. 137 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: What about Dylan Brown? Yeah, okay like that that situation. 138 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: Well, it's exactly what I was thing when Buzz said that. 139 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: Then I thought, imagine what Dylan Brown thinks right now, 140 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: because he thinks he's going to Newcastle to play with 141 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: Calm Ponger and that's a lure for him, I imagine. 142 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: So to think that maybe he won't if you're. 143 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: Dylan Brown, I mean, that's gotta that's got to be 144 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: a shock for you. 145 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: Calen needs to come out and make a statement. He's 146 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: got so many fans. 147 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: Up, he's your men. 148 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: Well, I've reached out, brother reached out. We got back 149 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 4: to me today. 150 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: But he just said anything for me they did there 151 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: was he just said thanks for reaching out, or was appreciated. 152 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: He didn't say. I didn't say that, and that's a 153 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: good session. 154 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: Andreas said, Look, there's always noise around us in the nights. 155 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: You know, we're not basically not going to add to 156 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: the noise. So so he gave you some information, some informay, 157 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: not a lot. 158 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 2: Not the answer. 159 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 5: It doesn't sound like you dug all that heard you would. 160 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: He wouldn't have responded to break a buzzer. That's the problem. 161 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: Im to show him a phone. 162 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: You've been digging all day and you love to dig. 163 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: Adam O'Brien, what have you got for us? 164 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: Is it? 165 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Is it an absolutely crisis? What's what's the story? 166 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 5: Well, they've had a really really disappointing year and their injuries. 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: They were being up there with the southne Rabbits, there 168 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: two worst affected clubs. As I said, I've got a 169 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: text message yesterday. But the blow torches on him. He's 170 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: made the finals for the next year. No, I don't 171 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: think you'll be there next year. I think the Knights 172 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: are getting into a situation. I said at the top, 173 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: they're starting to think about next year and if we 174 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: don't grab handape, we don't grab Peters, do. 175 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: We go bright up? 176 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 5: And they don't want to be beaten to the Titans 177 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 5: are looking for a coach, the Cowboys might be looking 178 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: for a coach. West Tigers might be looking. So it's 179 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: become this four club. 180 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: I reckon that's really harsh. 181 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: So I think he's made the four finals as you've 182 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: seen five years. I think he deserves to start next 183 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: year and they start next year. Paula, Yeah, I think 184 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: he does because I think they've had a horrific injury 185 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: toll this year. I mean Karlin's going to miss end 186 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: up missing half the seasons, missed a lot of footy, 187 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: and I think Adam, given his record in recent seasons, 188 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: he deserves to question do. 189 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 6: You think they're a better side now from Nada and 190 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 6: Brian got there too. 191 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: Where they are now? Do you think that. 192 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 5: I'll defend him there because when he started the club 193 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: it was on the back of about three wooden spoons, 194 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 5: so he has done better. But he went up and 195 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 5: now he's on the way back down. 196 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: This year is but injuries played such a big part 197 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: in that. 198 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: We've seen all the sides who have labored this year 199 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: except the Gold Coast have all that massive injury problems. 200 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: The Gold Coast of the exception, they haven't. They've just 201 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: had a crap year. But a lot of the others 202 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: have struggled, struggle with injuries and that's why you look 203 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: at Souse and we're going to talk about them at 204 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: some point of the Knights. The injuries have killed them. 205 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: And again the recruitment hasn't been great because they haven't 206 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: nailed behalves. 207 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: Before we move on. 208 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: So if Adam O'Brien is gone for next year, do 209 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: they have a preference who coaches? 210 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Newcastle have to have someone in the barrel. 211 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: I keep hearing Brad Arthur and his two sons are 212 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 5: there now. 213 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: He's best mates with Adam O'Brien. Imagine he came and 214 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: took his job well, like best mates. I think Brad's 215 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: got Adam's godfather one of his children, isn't he. So 216 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: let's just find that the same manager, no different managers. 217 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm here and Blake Green's there. 218 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: They love him, that's true. 219 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: I also heard that. 220 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: A big reason Dylan Brown went there was because of 221 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: Blake Green and the pitch that he put to him, 222 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: so that again he wanted to keep the fourteen men. 223 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: Or play happy as well. 224 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 5: And it's the interesting thing is Peter Parr in Sis 225 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 5: he's the CEO, insists nothing's happening. But they've got a 226 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 5: brutal board headed by Phil Gardner who just makes decisions 227 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 5: and won't bring the rest into the loop until he's 228 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 5: actually made them. 229 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: Does he know what he's doing, He'll gone. 230 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: I think Phil Gardner runs Pokey's really well, bistros really well. 231 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 5: But he's not a rugby league man. He's built an 232 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: empire with that West gros Or. I think the ceties 233 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 5: up there are very good. Yeah, that's great. 234 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: I want to keep it all mad. 235 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: I was answering your question from a. 236 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: Bit of gravy too. 237 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Are we several cases seemingly fighting for their futures? Cracks 238 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: begin to show over the weekend. 239 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: Do you want more time with the club? Make student 240 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: to turn this around? 241 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 6: I mean, which you've seen You've seen all the reports 242 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 6: about where you're going to do. 243 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 244 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 6: No, but and I don't take any notice to report 245 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 6: the speculation. 246 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: It's unfounded. The results we just haven't gotten. 247 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 6: The game that we are in is a result driven business. 248 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 7: The day the club feels like I'm not the right 249 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 7: guy that'll take care of himself and take these jobs. 250 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: You understand what comes with it. 251 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: The reason I do this job is because I want 252 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: to turn the club around, and I actually believe that 253 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: I can. 254 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm seeing my eulogy. I'm good, mate, 255 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm all good. 256 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 7: Watch the team that was connected and fighting hard throughout 257 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 7: that whole eighty minute period. We've got some parts of 258 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 7: our game that costing us steely and I'm losing sleep 259 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 7: at night working out how. 260 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: To fix it. Okay, Bars, I've been looking forward to 261 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: this all day. 262 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: You've put together a coaching pressure gauge. 263 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 5: I was asked by the producer to put together a 264 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 5: pressure gauge. 265 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: That's the oud effects of it. And yeah, there are five. 266 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Where do you rate these coaches? Buzz take the floor? 267 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: Well, death has I got ten out of ten? He's 268 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 5: gone and I know he was in denial yesterday. Unless 269 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: he retirees on his own relition or his own decision, 270 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 5: he will be removed by that clause in his contract. 271 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 5: It won't be a court case. He's gone. I've lifted 272 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 5: out of my Brian up to nine point. 273 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: Five started what do you start the day at? 274 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 5: He started as an eight point five. But there are 275 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 5: developments in rugby league as by the the more phone 276 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 5: calls you mad and I do want to tell you. 277 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 5: I spoke to Peter part and I spoke to Adam 278 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 5: as well. I had a good chat to Adam and 279 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: I also spoke to another key figure at that club 280 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: before forming this opinion that he's in major, major strife. 281 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: Now Todd Peyton at the Titan at the Cowboys, they've 282 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 5: won one of six, the twelfth on the ladder. The 283 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 5: last few weeks the Dolphins and the Roosters combined to 284 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 5: put one hundred points on them. He has five or 285 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: six State of origin players. They went into week two 286 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 5: of the finals last year. I think their management up there, 287 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: and I know the CEO is moving on. I think 288 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 5: the management up there are looking at other options. 289 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 6: Doing their a really soft run home to the cow 290 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 6: a softer run home. 291 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 5: Now, Benji eight out of ten. He was joking about 292 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 5: his own eulogy yesterday. They've won one out of eight. 293 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: Rich Ol is on record, the great rich I was 294 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 5: saying he'll be coaching next year. But the one went off, 295 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 5: the one loss off the bottom of the ladder, and 296 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 5: I think he's under pressure. 297 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: Finally we're going to die one day. 298 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, they are Finally I've given him a six. 299 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: He can write one. He's writing the eulogy. 300 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Steeves, I've got us a six out of ten. 301 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: He should be higher. Yeah, they're running seven eighth. 302 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: They're in the ape. 303 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 304 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 6: But at the beginning of the year, where you thought 305 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 6: they were going to be. I thought they'd be top 306 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 6: four and the Roosters signed their captain for what to 307 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 6: win a camp apparently. 308 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, with Sebs, I still think to be iron clad 309 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 5: certainty of keeping his job, he needs to make the age. 310 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. 311 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 5: I think because we thought at the start of the 312 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 5: most did our top four club? 313 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: Top four? 314 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 5: All right, there are your rankings, mate. 315 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, that was fantastic. Now is he 316 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: gone or not? Like I thought he was gone? Everyone 317 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: said he was gone. I was waiting for the announcement. 318 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: I actually thought it happened. I'd seen it that much 319 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: and heard it. But it hasn't. What's going on. 320 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: I spoke to desk Friday. He says he's not gone. 321 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 5: I don't think that he's been brought into the picture 322 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 5: of the position they're in. I think they're waiting till 323 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 5: it's spath and medal impossible for him to make the 324 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: top eight. I think that's now really is well, No, 325 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: if he won every. 326 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 6: Game, sixteen points left in the competition, you know the 327 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 6: Titans better than that yesterday, and we'll turn tell us 328 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 6: something I haven't heard it, So we don't want to 329 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 6: keep on second coaches. And as he was there and 330 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 6: everybody thought we'd be in a better position, and for 331 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 6: some reason. 332 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: There's been some very heavy stuff written. And Peter Badell 333 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: and Travis Main did how his sheds and that a 334 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 5: kid there in the side read about his first grade 335 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: tobo and the telegraph on the website wasn't even told 336 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 5: didn't get his jumper, but all that sort of thing, and. 337 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: That what's coming out of there at the moment. 338 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: You're right, yeah, but look, it's more. 339 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: Alarming the way they're playing. I mean, I loved as 340 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: as a blake, right, but I think his ways are outdated. 341 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: I think it's with due respect to doubt dares, I 342 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: think he's become a bit of a dinosaur. 343 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: If you're going to coach on the. 344 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: Gold Coast, a place that needs more promotion, it's there 345 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: under section the AFL. What does he do to promote 346 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: the game up there? Cuts his press conferences off after 347 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: three minutes, sits after does his press conference after games, 348 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: gets up and walks out. 349 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to promote the game. Doesn't promote 350 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: the game. 351 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: On the Gold Coast. 352 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: This is the thing that I find annoying. It's one 353 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: thing to lose footy games. 354 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: Look, that happens, right, and that's what coaches get judged by. 355 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: But on the Gold Coast it's different. Gravy Man, you're 356 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: under assault from the AFL. You've got to promote the game, 357 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: because that's what the AFL do up there. They promote 358 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: the hell out of the game. 359 00:15:59,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: At that joint. 360 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: Really, conferences get moved left right and so then it 361 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: goes anymore. 362 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 5: There's a little bit of nonsense there. I tell you 363 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: what the nonsense is. The coach is not a pr guy, 364 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: Yes he is. He's not Wayne Bennett. Press conferences best 365 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 5: in the business man? 366 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: Are you serious? 367 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: You don't think he gets one or two word answers 368 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: every now and then? 369 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: If the media better than anyone? Buzz? 370 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 5: Can he reallyship people privately and loads you up and 371 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 5: all that sort of thing. I'm saying somebody's press conferences 372 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: are pretty. 373 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: Order of them. 374 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: Problem is not one of them. Problem is not his 375 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: pr that's like us blowing up about Origin players not 376 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: speaking to us. That's wrongs. His problem is he's not 377 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 5: winning fully games. We're on the bottom of the lane. 378 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: That's an issue. 379 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 5: It's nothing to do. 380 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: But also think if you're upset the. 381 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: Local journals because he won't do four minute press comms, 382 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: he's doing three. 383 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: Maybe he moves and all the time buzz players are 384 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: never up for media because there is pulling him out 385 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: of media media. 386 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 5: I'm not caring foreign on the little world done well. 387 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: That's because the Greg Kirwan's retorian. 388 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I think DESI could do that at a big, 389 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 6: powerful club like Brisbane when you're on the gold case 390 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 6: and there's a lot of transit people and a lot 391 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 6: of holiday goals that might want to come to the game. 392 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: The more they see a guy they're promoting. I think 393 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: it does help. 394 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 6: When I had to go Wayne minute, because there'd be 395 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 6: you know, the Swan's coach was Kevin Sheady. They're kicking 396 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 6: balls over planes and all that early in the morning 397 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 6: and Wayne would brush them. And I think there is 398 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 6: a responsibility of the coaches to sell the game. 399 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: I should have got I should have called the Donald. 400 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: That was respect what I think some of his way comment. 401 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm attracting that comment. Desk, I apologize. You shouldn't called 402 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: your dinos. Some of de ways our old school. 403 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 4: And they don't. They did work on the gold. 404 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: Case, the reverse button. 405 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: It was a She's been a great coach. 406 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: I was Wayne Gravy Man. 407 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: We'll get to that lass. 408 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: Never heard anyone back flip in sixties when you're. 409 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: About to soon. 410 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: Has been great for the game. I just think it's done. 411 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: My bra. 412 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: You start running six. No one would worry if his 413 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: press conference was a three minute STrenD. But they're not. 414 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: They run, stay, they come and last, just to keep 415 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: the information on a mission to avoid their third straight 416 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: last Bulldogs cash camera. Serudo swung the axe on his 417 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: prize signing and it worked. 418 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: Bulldogs now on the attack. 419 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 8: Marty to kick out a tackle, Spail, Oh he is Superman. 420 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 8: Drink water on the pertue, tin and cowboys, McLean labor, 421 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 8: j FT stacks, check and let slide. Urdon light signed 422 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 8: kicked and getting through Preston. 423 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: That was up. That was too easy. 424 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 8: Extra points Hayward Burton. 425 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 5: They're not at the moment. 426 00:18:54,600 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 8: Tracy on to Joanna, he's got rid of Shatra, rid 427 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 8: of cover, becomes a dread scorer in the NRL. 428 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: I think it's in the stars. 429 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 8: Dean a dummy and riders dren Curer that's in the 430 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 8: stars as well. 431 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 5: Or did he loads out lost it? 432 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 8: He's like at all over the line Cowboys re Ben 433 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 8: against Worldall and kick for the lead and he loses possession. 434 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 8: Love Derby throws a watermelon passpect to Labor, says to 435 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 8: your best pay off loads drink water. Diner Winer kicked 436 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 8: in a corner. Did Ny the cab up Nights takes 437 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 8: a dad Canterbury within the contests and a courageous weed 438 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 8: with the Bulldogs on their own. 439 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: That was the turning point thanks to Ashley and Martin 440 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: Medical hair Centers, Buzz to drop. 441 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: Or not to drop? You're talking Galvin story you wrote 442 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: this morning? 443 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: I wrote this morning the Tobby Sexton and Red Marni 444 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: had got them into the top four and should stay 445 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 5: in the football side, and that Galvin, I don't like 446 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: him sitting in a coaching box, should probably keep his 447 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 5: match conditioning up and go and play news last Cup 448 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: a few weeks That was my opinion. I have since 449 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 5: learnt this will not be the case. They couldn't give 450 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: us stuff what I've written, obviously, because I am now 451 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 5: told that there were huge concerns about the Bulldog's attack, 452 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 5: not just in recent weeks, but since the beginning of 453 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 5: the season. I've got the stats here. Storm have scored 454 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 5: five hundred and seventeen points, Raiders have scored four sixty 455 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 5: two points, The Bulldogs have scored three hundred and sixty 456 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 5: six points. Manly Roosters, Sharks and Dolphins have all scored 457 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: more points than there's a worry about their attack. I'm 458 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 5: hearing that they're at tempted now to put Galvin in, 459 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 5: start him at half back, stop the debate, stop the speculation, 460 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: get some coesion and Paul Old Toby Sex. I have 461 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 5: not changed my opinion. 462 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: That sounds a good idea. I swear I said it 463 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: a week ago. 464 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 5: Well you know what you have, you have a million 465 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: ideas and you finally got one ride. Well done. 466 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: Come. I think it's a. 467 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 6: It was right from the dogs, just you know, just 468 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 6: to cut the head off on the weekend and stop 469 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 6: trying to keep everybody happy. And if they go with Galvin, 470 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 6: go with Galvin. But picking at seven or picking at 471 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 6: six and just run with it, don't try to keep 472 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 6: the whole squad happy. 473 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: Wat watching the game on the. 474 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: Weekend, I thought, this team, the way they're attacking camp, 475 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: win the camp. 476 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: It was really an eye opener to me. 477 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: I was hoping they would improve put going back to 478 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: the team that. 479 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: They did have, but they didn't. 480 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Their defense has been amazing and won them this game. 481 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: Now what really concerned me was playing the team that's 482 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: got the worst defense in the competition and they only 483 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: scored the points that they did. So I went and 484 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: had to look at the numbers, and this was Sexton's 485 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: numbers compared to the others top four teams at the 486 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: moment in attack. If you look at Hughes fifteen games, 487 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: six tries, nine and try assists forty seven, tackle bus 488 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: eight line breaks Metcalf, he's played less games than Sexton. 489 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: Eight tries, eleven, tryasis, eight line breaks, thirty three tackle 490 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: bus Foguti even there sixteen games, two tries eight and 491 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: you can see the numbers compared to Sexton down. 492 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: The bottom right. 493 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: So this is in no line breaks, so he hasn't 494 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: made one line break all a year Sexton, So this 495 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking. You know what, I can see 496 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: what sorialdo c is but he's got to make the call. 497 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: He's got to make the call if he wants to 498 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: win a premiership. We'll have a chance of winning a premiership. 499 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: And he doesn't think Sexton can do it in that 500 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: key position and execute the way that they need it, 501 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: then put Galvin at seven and just do it now, 502 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: just do. 503 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: It now here as soon as he signed is a 504 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 5: big picture, long term signing that he was going to 505 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: deliver the premierships that Gus told us about that it 506 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: would be in a year or two, maybe even three years. 507 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 5: That's why they signed him long term. Cameron is obviously 508 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 5: of the opinion there were a chance of winning the 509 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 5: comp this year, but not with the attacking processes they 510 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: have in place right now. And that's why Sexton will 511 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: be I believe, removed from the side in the next week. 512 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: It goes back to what we said in the preseason, 513 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: early in the season break about the spine and I 514 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: doubt whether they ad a spine that could win a premiership, 515 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: but I think Galvin gives him that because he adds 516 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 3: another dimension to them, which you respect to tab sext 517 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: and He's done a really serviceable job, but he can't 518 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: do a lock and Galvin he's a good football to 519 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: prove himself. 520 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to take back that. 521 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a distraction still what's going on. 522 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: I do, But I also do think. 523 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: Do you think breaks an instruction while it's up in 524 00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: the air. 525 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just going to make up in the air. 526 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying I need to make it cool. 527 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's been too much stuff and around and 528 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: they've probably been unsure of it. They've wanted to show 529 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: respect to Sext and give him an opportunity. He's had 530 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: his opportunity and he hasn't been poor well either. You know, 531 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: they still weren't winning games. You know, they've only got 532 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: just beaten by Penris. So it's a tough one to make, 533 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: very hard coooll. And as long as the players, this 534 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: is a big thing for me that I've been strong on. 535 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: As long as the playing group and the senior players 536 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: are on the same page as the coach and agree 537 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: and don't feel aggrieved by the players like Sexton and 538 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: many in their situation. If they're comfortable and they want 539 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: Galvin and that seven Jersey and they think they're more 540 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: chances of win the comp with Galvin chuck him in. 541 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: And you know what, Cameron Surround on a very short 542 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 5: period of time has proved himself to be an emerging 543 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: super coach, you know, a guy who's going to win premierships. 544 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 5: And as much as I wanted sex and to stay 545 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 5: that sex and stay there on the score of loyalty, 546 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: I can understand. I can understand, and this decision. 547 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 4: You're on board now, but I like it. 548 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: No, no, but the dogs probably thought that Sextem was 549 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: going to this is gainus. 550 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 6: Like I mean, and then that made the decision easier 551 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 6: if sext And failed. 552 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: And he didn't fail. He just kept on doing his 553 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: job and playing well. 554 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: I think the thing really too is sometimes you can 555 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: look too far ahead. They've got a window of opportunity. Now, 556 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen next year. You 557 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen the year after. You 558 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: don't know what injury are going to get. You talk 559 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: about Seaous, you talk about other teams that've got injuries. 560 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: And let's wipe them out. 561 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: Well, they don't have injuries, They've just got key positions. 562 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: To take care and they've got a chance to win 563 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 1: a camp this year. So sometimes you can look too 564 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: far ahead and miss those those windows of opportunity. 565 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: This is one for them. Where do you get that from? Okay? 566 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: The Bulldogs are averaging twenty two point eight points per game, 567 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: Melbourne Storm ra averaging thirty two point three. That's why this decision. 568 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 5: I find it very hard on Sexton, but I can understand. 569 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: So before we move on, you can see that Rudy 570 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: was right and that he got it right. 571 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: Will concede that was so long over due. 572 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: To again. 573 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Last Bennett criticism as laughable after buzz questions the age 574 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: of the great supercoach. 575 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: Had a big day. I have look. 576 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: I wrote a piece this morning that souths are running 577 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 5: second last and last year, so I was cup second 578 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 5: lasting flag and I've had a few people reach out 579 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: to me, not me saying this that is Wayne Bennett 580 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 5: still up with the modern game. And it was, you know, 581 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: it was. It was a nasty thing to print, but 582 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 5: you know people are asking me these things. I actually 583 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 5: would never disrespect Wayne. I was on an Immortal's judging 584 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 5: power last year and I actually pushed for him to 585 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 5: become an immortal, not that player that nine hundred for 586 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: coaching games, plus the fact that he played for Australia, 587 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 5: plus the fact he's won seven Hemanship. 588 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: So it was not so I. 589 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: Couldn't get the support in the room. I just wanted 590 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 5: to prove I'd never disrespect him. That's how highly I 591 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: think of it. But the bottom line is they're going 592 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 5: like absolute bustards this year. They've had a shocking run 593 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: with injuries, which I credit them, and Wayne has a 594 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: massive job on his hand to drag them out of this. 595 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 5: This is what I'm surprised that he even put in 596 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 5: for the Kangaroo's job. I think in September October that 597 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 5: club needs a massive review to work out where they're heading. 598 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 5: You look at clubs like Paramatta and with Ralph's there, 599 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: they've struggled too, but you can see future there. You 600 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: look at other clubs that lower on the ladder, there's 601 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: a couple of them. They've got kids coming through. I 602 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 5: can't see those kids at this house reading. I don't 603 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 5: know where they're next. 604 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 6: Do you think do you think Wayne put his hand 605 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 6: up for the Australian job to get a bit of 606 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: aura back, Because when you're the Australian coach. 607 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: You get a bit more power. 608 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: And well it's a press seed. 609 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 610 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: I think Wayne likes doing that job. I think he 611 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: likes the idea of doing the idea of doing asses 612 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: to as well. Obviously, well when you do, if you 613 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: do the job now, but I don't think you should 614 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: have to. 615 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: But that's another debate, Gordy. 616 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: I mean I think, yeah, I think I think you're 617 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: harsh on Wayne Buzz because I think their injury record 618 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: this year, and I think the issue hasn't just been. 619 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: Their injury record. 620 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 3: It's the injury record on top of the recruitment in 621 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: the last couple of years when Wayne wasn't necessarily there, 622 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: they haven't recruited well the last couple of YEARSS injuries 623 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: or recruitment. 624 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: You can't separate. 625 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 6: You can't separate because I think one's injuries last year, 626 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 6: which is unlucky. 627 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: If you have and if you have injuries, and if 628 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: you make a decision, if you've recruited poorly, then you 629 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: get injuries. It compounds the poor recruitment. I think they 630 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: work together. But if you recruit smart that you can 631 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: cover for injuries sometimes, but if you recruit poorly, which 632 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: is what they've Done's in charge of recruitment, Mark Ellison. 633 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 5: I suppose last week when I said it was a 634 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 5: recruitment blunder to learn down Reynolds go, you said it 635 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: was rubbish. 636 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: No, I said that you can't go back four years 637 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: and blame that. 638 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: Well, because I said you can't. 639 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: Plenty of chances to get it right from them and 640 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: they haven't got it right. 641 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: Well, so who are you going to blame? LUI start on, Well, 642 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 5: I think we. 643 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: Grade. 644 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: I don't know that we've ever got to the bottom. 645 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 5: Of Wayne surely would have rubber stamped. He wouldn't come 646 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 5: to a new club and spend elite money on a 647 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 5: that's one they've. 648 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: Got obviously got wrong. 649 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: Great mystery. It's great, isn't it a great mystery? 650 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: It's one that got wrong obviously because that doesn't worked, 651 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: you know, having you know, this is South Sydney, this 652 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: isn't the Gold Coast time. 653 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 5: The position there is just unacceptable across all grades. And 654 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: Blake Solely and Wayne need to sit down as soon 655 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: as round twenty seven is done and they need to 656 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 5: find a way out of this hole. 657 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: Don't don't don't agree us even with hit players. They've 658 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: got to be a job on their hands, the bunnies. Now, 659 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: let's take a. 660 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: Look at our sports Bet Player of the Round nominees 661 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: around at nineteen and here they are and Nicholas High. 662 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: What a game it was from him, clutch for the 663 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: Kronella Sharks. Drame Hughes again four try assists standing out 664 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: for the Melbourne Storm, Chanelle Harris, Tavita for the Warriors 665 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: with two tries. 666 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: Buzz Nico is back. 667 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 5: As I said, he's from one point one million dollars 668 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 5: and he played like a one point one million dollar 669 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 5: play the other night. It was so great, great to 670 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: see his confidence. He's two tries. The Dolphins came home hard. 671 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 5: But Nick him. I haven't even curtain him around the 672 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 5: coffee shop. 673 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: He might have good to see him those moments, clutch moments. 674 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's actually looking at the stats today, of 675 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: all the harms, when I was looking at Sexton's, I 676 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: saw Nikos and he's had the most line break assists 677 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: I think. So he creates a lot of opportunities and 678 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: he's very dangerous. It's just the big moments that that 679 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: he has struggled with. Hopefully this is, you know, the 680 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: monkey off the back and. 681 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: There's such a different side break when he plays or 682 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: we saw that didn't we're there are they're the side, 683 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: but he plays well there the side. Do you think 684 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: they can challenge potentially for a premiership now? Have done 685 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: too much damage already, but it's great to seem smiling 686 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: and happy. 687 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: Very good to see you stick around. Journo's This Sunday 688 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: from ten am. Tim Zoo fights to become a two 689 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: time world champion, live from Las Vegas. It's the only 690 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: Australian fight worth watching next week and it's only on 691 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: main events.