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Speaker 1: Amana Phillips, Welcome to the podcast and thank you for

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Speaker 1: returning The Fever.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love a good pod swap, I really really do.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely loved having you on my podcast recently. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you guys enjoy our chat today, head over to

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Speaker 2: my podcast as well, and we talk about all sorts

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Speaker 2: of different stuff. But you and I could talk all

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Speaker 2: day underwater, shared interests, shared values.

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Speaker 1: I love it exactly. And your podcast just for those

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Speaker 1: is called The Healthy Her. Now, like me, you're an

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Speaker 1: exercise scientist. You're also a nutritionist. You're also a researcher,

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Speaker 1: but you also specialize in online programs and biotech, which

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Speaker 1: I've dabbled in, but I think you're a lot more successful.

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Speaker 1: And you are the coach and the TV show, the

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Speaker 1: Australian TV show Do you Want to Live Forever? You're

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Speaker 1: also the founder of Vitality three sixty and a podcaster.

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Speaker 1: Clearly you're a bit like me with the devil mix

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Speaker 1: work for your idle hands. So you've got to keep yourself.

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Speaker 2: Busy one hundred percent. And also how lucky do you

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Speaker 2: feel to be in an industry where you never stop

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Speaker 2: learning and where you wake up in the morning and

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Speaker 2: your mind gets blown again and again. Like twenty six

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Speaker 2: years in this industry, you'd think i'd be a bit

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Speaker 2: jaded or sick of it by now, But even in

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Speaker 2: the last five years, I have got more fire in

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Speaker 2: my belly and more motivation than I had ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Because technology evolves, the research evolves, and we are literally

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Speaker 2: saving lives and extending health span and it's happening every day,

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Speaker 2: And like I just wake up, go I'm like a

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Speaker 2: kid in a candy store. I'm like, Okay, well, what else?

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Speaker 2: What else is gonna What amazing new trial is going

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Speaker 2: to be released that shows us how we can extend

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Speaker 2: our healthpan? So yeah, I feel pretty lucky to love

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Speaker 2: what I do as well.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree it's a lot better than being a banker.

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Speaker 1: No offense to all of the bankers that I know,

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Speaker 1: and I know a lot, but it is nice to

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Speaker 1: do something for a living that you would do in

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Speaker 1: your spur time. Anyway, and we met fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: I reckon about fifteen years ago at an after party

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Speaker 1: for a rather large event.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you were dressed as a smurf?

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Speaker 1: Was I y?

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Speaker 2: And you were so drunk. If you could imagine a

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I was still talking today.

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Speaker 1: God, that's funny. I'll tell you what it's from the UK.

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Speaker 1: Will not be surprised to know that I was dressed

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Speaker 1: as a smurf. It's been I was about to say

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Speaker 1: it's been quite a while since I was dressed as

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Speaker 1: a spurf, but actually it's been about six months since

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Speaker 2: Is this your thing? One of your like cheeky you know,

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Speaker 2: behind closed doors or fetish, Well.

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Speaker 1: Not so much behind closed I have a first. I

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Speaker 1: first smurfed Jesus twenty five maybe years ago. I was

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Speaker 1: introduced by me and mine Jason, and and we went

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Speaker 1: on smurfing. I think it was might have been my

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Speaker 3: And we had a garga male like this is about fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Smurfs and a gargamele, and my my wife was dressed

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Speaker 2: Ah, I like it.

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Speaker 1: And I loved it so much that I now have

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Speaker 1: a rule that if anybody visits me from the U

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Speaker 2: The piss God.

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Speaker 3: And I'm very serious about it.

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Speaker 1: I only ordered the best blue theater piant and and

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Speaker 1: so I'll tell you a little. This is an unexpected

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Speaker 1: little rabbit told that we're going down. But me and

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Speaker 1: of mine at Tyrone, who may or may not be listening,

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Speaker 1: music festival. And then I eventually agreed last year and

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Speaker 2: See, look, health experts don't have to be boring and

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Speaker 2: don't have to you know, color in the lines. You

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Speaker 2: can have a lot of fun. And you, my friend,

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Speaker 2: know how to have a good time. And I love

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Speaker 2: that about you. But yes, I clearly didn't hold it

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Speaker 2: against you. Could hear We are fifteen years later, indeed, and.

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Speaker 1: Then let's not make this about smurfing. Let's get back

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Speaker 1: on track. And however you would make a good smurfet

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Speaker 2: Term I just pray, all right, well, I'm I'm open

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Speaker 2: to having my arm twisted for the right event.

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Speaker 1: Be careful what you say. So let's talk about longevity.

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Speaker 1: We're both geeks in this longevity space and the health

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Speaker 1: span space, and there is so much stuff out there,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it good and a lot of it horseshit.

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Speaker 1: So let's just kind of go through. I'll just throw

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Speaker 3: Separate the week from the chaff.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, what is this stuff that you think is

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Speaker 1: good that's out there that people should be listening to,

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Speaker 1: And what's the crappy stuff or the yet to be

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Speaker 2: Shall we say, yeah, I love all the TikTok trends

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Speaker 2: them are horseshit, as you say, But then every now

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Speaker 2: and again, some of them actually do have some evidence

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Speaker 2: that they're designed. Some of those TikTok trends actually are

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Speaker 2: really easy to adhere to, or they're motivating. But before

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Speaker 2: I kind of go into the specifics I will often

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Speaker 2: talk to people about. I call it the ladder approach

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Speaker 2: when you think about your health, and we do this

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Speaker 2: imagine this ladder analogy where the very bottom rung of

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Speaker 2: And you think of this ladder approach almost like a

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Speaker 2: you know, and then it's like cut the crap food,

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Speaker 2: and they're the ones coming to me saying things like,

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Speaker 1: Kicking?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, should I be taking these supplements? And you

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Speaker 2: know they're geeking out over supplements, but they're overeating and

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Speaker 2: we can make see where you are on the ladder.

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Speaker 2: And if you're I mean a lot of your listeners

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Speaker 2: the one or the two percenters, then yes, some of

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Speaker 2: let's have a conversation about that. But if you're not

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Speaker 1: Saying that, yeah, look, very very good point. And I

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Speaker 1: about four pillars, four foundational pillars, which pretty much what

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Speaker 1: mindset right. And if you have those four then you

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have those, for all that fancy

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And look, I always feel like this saying energy

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Speaker 2: Energy flows where focus goes. So I deal with everyday

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Speaker 2: And what I do see is quite commonly people focusing

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Speaker 2: And so the same thing with health. You see a

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Speaker 2: We get all excited about these new and innovative tests,

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Speaker 2: that we should be getting, you know, cervical screens for women,

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Speaker 2: annual skin checks. Just make sure you're doing all that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, we will come into tests and biomarkers

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Speaker 1: the one of nutrition.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: There are so many opinions out there around nutrition. And

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Speaker 1: I always say that anybody who tells you there's one

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Speaker 1: diet that everybody should be eating is either demented, or

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Speaker 1: they're trying to sell you something, or they're a member

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Speaker 2: Three I agree with you one.

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Speaker 1: So what what advice do you give to the people

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Speaker 2: So one hundred percent agree. I don't. I don't attest

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Speaker 2: to having one particular dietary pattern that you know that

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Speaker 2: I focus on. If that had to pick one, and

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Speaker 2: one only the Mediterranean diet. And that's where I hear

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Speaker 2: nowhere near as click baity as carnival diet.

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Speaker 1: Or it's boring.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't see the benefit in that, and

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Speaker 2: I know that some people do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

436
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Speaker 2: Are your mouth taper.

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Speaker 3: I most tip? I tell you why most chip because for.

438
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Speaker 1: Nearly forty years I had a deviated septum from getting

439
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: my nose broken when I was a kid, and they

440
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: am broken again when I was boxing and so could

441
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Speaker 1: could not breathe through my nose. It was a mouth breather.

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Speaker 1: And then when I got my nose fixed and started

443
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Speaker 1: nose breathing. But what often most briefing at night, so

444
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: I tap up to make sure that I'm NAIs or

445
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Speaker 1: breathing because I need to retree, and you've got you've.

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Speaker 2: Got a retraining. I think again, if you are in

447
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Speaker 2: the two percenters, and maybe you're an elite athlete or

448
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: maybe you've got you know, like what you're talking about.

449
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: You might have a medical condition. But for example, a

450
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: huge proportion of our members I have undiagnosed LEAPATNA and

451
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: it can be really dangerous. It can be really dangerous

452
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Speaker 2: to mouth tape. So I just don't that's it's just

453
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Speaker 2: not one you go and do blindly. Is it would

454
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Speaker 2: be I would you need to go and seek counsel.

455
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: It's not one that oh yeah, just you know, just

456
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Speaker 2: go and give it a go. And so yeah, that

457
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Speaker 2: would that would be one that I tend to kind

458
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Speaker 2: of park. So yeah, let's talk about supplements. So again,

459
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: a lot of the really targeted supplements are you would

460
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: need to have one on one. But I'm going to

461
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: talk about I'm going to kind of part I'll talk

462
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: about the targeted supplements that we see deficient and insufficient,

463
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 2: but the ones that I think everyone should be taking,

464
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: and you know, there's lots of great research behind them

465
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: for a bunch of different reasons. Magnesium is collagen. This

466
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 2: is for our kind of over forties and one to

467
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: experiment with works for some, not for all this creatine. Yeah,

468
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: so magnesium is involved in over two hundred interactions in

469
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: the body. It's so so essential and it impacts lots

470
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Speaker 2: of things from muscle function to cognition, to sleep, to

471
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: stress management, even to thermoregulation. So a lot of people

472
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: are insufficient or deficient in magnesium. There's a theory that

473
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: it's you know, the soil in the country or the

474
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: quality of the food that we eat. We measure that

475
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: seram magnesium. Now, it's not an completely accurate measurement because

476
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: really you'd have to do a full muscle biopsy, but

477
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: it's a pretty good indicator, and it's one of the

478
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Speaker 2: markers that is so low on so many of our members,

479
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: and it's very hard to reach an upper limit. So

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00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what's the downside?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point, right, Is that that with

482
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Speaker 1: magnesium and things like bee venamins and things like that,

483
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get to toxicity, whereas something like vitamin

484
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Speaker 1: A you can get to toxicity pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: Right, So I think that's a very good point, And.

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Speaker 2: I will just jump in. You just said the bee

487
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Speaker 2: vitamins B twelve kind of hard to get to toxicity.

488
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: The challenge is not B sixix, so do be very careful.

489
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Speaker 2: I don't know why manufacturers put so much B six

490
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Speaker 2: into so much stuff. But I had a lady, actually

491
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Speaker 2: a presenter on one of the major networks send me

492
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Speaker 2: a product that she got on Amazon because she saw

493
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: some influencer that had a million followers touting this product.

494
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 2: She ordered it. It's American product and she sent it

495
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Speaker 2: to me with the NIP the nutrient information panel. It

496
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: had three hundred and fifty percent of the RDI for

497
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Speaker 2: B six in it. I said, how did you even

498
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Speaker 2: get this in the The TGA would never allow that

499
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Speaker 2: in Australia because she bought it cross border and she

500
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Speaker 2: had no idea that. And it can trigger neuropathy, so yes, can.

501
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Speaker 1: Cause all sorts of nervousues. That's a very good point.

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Speaker 1: I should have been a bit more precise with my words.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just one of those tricky ones. So just

504
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Speaker 2: if you are taking a few supplements, just scan down,

505
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Speaker 2: have a look at B six and just try to

506
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Speaker 2: That's why I'm not a big fan of multi vitem.

507
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: I always suggest targeted, so I like, if you are

508
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 2: if you've got sleep issues, designs for health, the brand

509
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: does a really nice magnesium called trimag RESTful Night. And

510
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: if you've got more muscle issues so you're training hard,

511
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Speaker 2: you might get you know, sometimes your eyelid flickers like

512
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Speaker 2: a little muscle spasm, or you get restless legs or

513
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: cramps in your legs. Then the Bioceuticals Ultra Night musclees

514
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: is a great one to have have it in the

515
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Speaker 2: art anytime from four pm. So that would be one

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Speaker 2: collagen is another one. We lose up to thirty percent

517
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Speaker 2: of our collagen. And it's not just about having great hair,

518
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Speaker 2: skin and nails, because I know you're very focused on

519
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: great hair, skin and nails. Paul, that ship sells your eyebrows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah well, well, yes, well and truly sealed for me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Cardi is a massive fun of collagen. Who's

522
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Speaker 1: had it for years. I've been on the collagen since

523
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Speaker 1: I had my open heart surgery and to help with

524
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Speaker 1: the repair of your boot.

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Speaker 2: Think about collagens not just a vanity nutrient you think

526
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Speaker 2: about it. It's in our bones. It's connective tissue, so

527
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: anything that requires that structure. So that's why a lot

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00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: of women as they're and men as well, but as

529
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Speaker 2: they're getting older in our collagen declines. You hear a

530
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Speaker 2: lot of women getting suddenly frozen shoulder or plant our fasciitis.

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Speaker 2: That's because we're starting to see that connective tissue declining.

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: And just like our skin gets wrinkly, so does things

533
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Speaker 2: like our intestines. You don't think about it, but your

534
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: digestive tract it's very similar to skin, and that endothelial

535
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: lining gets wrinkly, and then what happens is you have

536
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: things like se bow, which is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth

537
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: where they're healthy, the gut bugs end up in the

538
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Speaker 2: small intestine and parts of the intestine where the gut

539
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Speaker 2: bugs aren't meant to be. That triggers an inflammatory response

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00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: or you get an increased gut permeability, which is a

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Speaker 2: bad thing. And so suddenly molecule are passing through the

542
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: gut lining which historically wouldn't and that triggers your immune

543
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: system to flare up, and suddenly you're now getting EXMA

544
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Speaker 2: or an autoimmune condition. So collagen just helps to just.

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Speaker 1: Just on that. I think a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: realize eighty percent if your immune system results in your gut.

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Speaker 1: So if you have that leaky gut, then that can

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Speaker 1: trigger all sorts of auto immune conditions.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I so many health conditions, and you get

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Speaker 2: the I get these poor ladies coming to me so

551
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Speaker 2: saying I was bomb proof for years and now suddenly

552
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Speaker 2: I have to just get a tiny bit of onion

553
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Speaker 2: in my lunch and I have to run to the

554
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Speaker 2: bathroom with ibs or I've got these auto you know,

555
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: rheumatoid arthritis just appears out of nowhere or Hashi motos

556
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: or and a lot of those are gut gut related

557
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: and also can be healed through the gut. The great

558
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Speaker 2: news is the gut loves to heal it, so if

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Speaker 2: you do the right things, these conditions can be either

560
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Speaker 2: managed very well or in some cases completely reversed. So

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Speaker 2: that's why I like collagen. It's just one of the

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Speaker 2: many approaches that we have towards, you know, all those

563
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Speaker 2: longevity challenges that we have. Creatine was the other one

564
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Speaker 2: I mentioned, Yes, so this is an interesting one. You

565
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Speaker 2: would have been like me in the nineties when it

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Speaker 2: had its moment with all the Jim bros And all

567
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Speaker 2: my male clients were taking it, and us ladies just

568
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: avoided it because we heard you retain water and it's

569
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Speaker 2: only for the big muscly guys. But the reason why

570
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Speaker 2: it's coming back in the spotlight and why I think

571
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Speaker 2: it's something that our two percenters who are listening today

572
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Speaker 2: should consider is because of the cognitive and mood and

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Speaker 2: mental health implications.

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Speaker 1: And I am a fin.

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Speaker 2: Are you're fan?

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Speaker 1: I am a fine Because of the impact on Brian

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00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: health and and mood, and especially when you are sleep deprived,

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00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: there's pretty good research that it it it immeerially it

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Speaker 1: or reduces the impact of the negative impact on your

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Speaker 1: cognitive function whenever you're sleep deprived. But also research just

581
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Speaker 1: came out I think last week or two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: that people with Alzheimer's disease to creating and improve their function.

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Speaker 1: And it's because it is one of the energy systems

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Speaker 1: that our sales all use atp PC. Is PC is

585
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: fossil creating, and so yeah, it's had it's had another renaissance,

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Speaker 1: and and yeah, from a neuroscience perspective, I'm I'm I'm

587
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Speaker 1: all in on it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so happy you say that.

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed any negatives with it other than people

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Speaker 1: who have kidney issues? Is there anybody else who should

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00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: be concerned about creating? And any other groups? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think vegans should certainly be taking more creating because

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Speaker 1: I'm likely to get a lot less of it in

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Speaker 1: their diet.

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Speaker 2: It's very hard to get your RDI through nutrition alone.

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00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: You have to be eating a lot of meat to

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Speaker 2: do it. No, is the answer to that question. Unless

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Speaker 2: you've got kidney issues. Then there's been a small incidence

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00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: of some gut disturbances in the early days. But I

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Speaker 2: say with anything, you kind of ty trate up. You

601
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Speaker 2: might start on a third of a dose just for

602
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: that first week while your gut adjusts. What I say

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Speaker 2: to people who are like, oh my god, I merely

604
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: do I really have to be taking another supplement, what

605
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: I say is take it for six to eight weeks

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Speaker 2: and if you notice a difference, then absolutely keep taking it.

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00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: And if you don't notice a difference, maybe your natural

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Speaker 2: muscle saturation level was good. But I know for me personally,

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Speaker 2: it made I started taking it at the start of

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Speaker 2: the year, and I have been shocked at the difference

611
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Speaker 2: it's made. And I can there's three key areas in

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Speaker 2: my life where I really notice it so much so

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Speaker 2: that I take it super religiously now. So first of all,

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Speaker 2: it was in my training. So anyone that does high

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Speaker 2: intensity interval training, so I do crossfits, so you've got

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Speaker 2: those hard wads where you're maxing out. You might be

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Speaker 2: doing maximum burpies or chins, but you're also doing strength.

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Speaker 2: We also have a strength component, So in my workouts,

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Speaker 2: I've got such a consistent life. I'm a pretty good

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Speaker 2: guinea pig, and I've been doing it for so long

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Speaker 2: so I know that once if I'm doing a wad

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Speaker 2: and there's lots of burpies in that, I know. I

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Speaker 2: get to burpie number, you know, six, seven or eight,

624
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Speaker 2: and I start to feel that labor coming in and

625
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Speaker 2: I start to feel like I have to really work hard.

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Speaker 2: I was doing these wads and I was getting to

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Speaker 2: like twelve, thirteen, fourteen, going oh my god, it's only

628
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: kicking in now that I'm having to work that bit harder.

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Speaker 2: I noticed my recovery was a lot stronger. I got stronger.

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Speaker 2: So for example, my heavy dead lifts, heavy squats, I

631
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: was hitting pbs getting a lot sot the next day,

632
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: which is a great sign that I was able to

633
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: overload that little bit more. But then the other two

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Speaker 2: areas was firstly my focus. So if you're someone that

635
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: has to do a lot of deep, hard work and

636
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: you find focus, you know where you know where your

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: brain's having to work really hard. I noticed a huge

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: improvement in my ability to focus, and I'd kind of

639
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: look up and go, holy moly, it's been two hours. Wow,

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00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: I've just been in flow. And then the third area, Paul,

641
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: which is my husband, was the one that actually noticed.

642
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: He said to me jeez, you've been in a good

643
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: mood for like a long time.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to mention the Beatle that.

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Speaker 2: Not that good. Oh man, I'd be patenting it and

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Speaker 2: eying shares in it. I can't say that it has

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Speaker 2: the impact with that, but he were back. Definitely, I've

648
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Speaker 2: noticed those those feelings of low or depression or overwhelm.

649
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: I've just had more pep in my step. I've just

650
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: been like, yeah, will be it. We'll be fine. To

651
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: worry about that.

652
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, and look again, there's there's good research

653
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: around it, and actually people with depression tacking creating. It's

654
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: significantly as a positive signet, significantly positive impact. And I

655
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: think if you think of all the sports supplement, it's

656
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: the most tested, it's the seafest, it's the one with

657
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: the biggest impact. And then now you throw then the

658
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: cognitive and the mood benefits. I think other than people

659
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: with chronic kidney disease, and I think you'd be bonkers

660
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: if you're not.

661
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: YEA, think about it, and look, I do think try it.

662
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: I think if.

663
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: You've run an experiment, if you do it for.

664
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: Eight weeks and you don't notice anything, then either yet

665
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: saturation levels are good, or maybe you're not. You're not

666
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: one of those people that's training to the max or

667
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: focusing or having mood issues. So you know, I don't

668
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: want people taking something for no reason.

669
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you've got you do the ex and

670
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: then you go off it because sometimes people don't notice

671
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: that up until they leave it right, and then it's yeah, okay,

672
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: So there's the big three magnesium collagen creating. Yeah, any others.

673
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 3: Yes, we're lessed.

674
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: I know.

675
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: And I'm going to sound like I'm a supplement peddler.

676
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: I promise you. I'm a food first girl. But we

677
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: are just talking supplements. There are two more that are

678
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: so so powerful, and a massive trial has just been

679
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: released that will blow your mind. And you're not going

680
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: to believe me, but I promise you it's true because

681
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: I've literally just been on Channel nine about it and

682
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: interviewed the I had tracked down the lead researcher. That's

683
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: how fusy I am about this. Okay, it's so I'll

684
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: tell you about the trial and then I'll reveal the protocol.

685
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: So this trial was gold standard double blind clinical trial.

686
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: Two thousand older adults, so seventy or older but they've

687
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: done a sister study for fifty to seventy years ros

688
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: that had the same results. So if you're over fifty,

689
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: it's the same. So two thousand participants, three years, double

690
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: blind clinical trial.

691
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: Where they already you've got me excited, Yes, already, I'm

692
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: excited this.

693
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: Honestly, you are going to nerd out. Oh my god,

694
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: I love talking to a nerd. So done in Switzerland,

695
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: but there was all over Europe all these participants. They

696
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: were a healthy cohort. They were not an unhealthy day

697
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: was screened. Okay, Over the three years doing these the

698
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: group that did the three interventions I'm about to reveal

699
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: had a sixty one percent reduction in invasive CANCERSZ, thirty

700
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: nine percent reduction in pre frailty, which is basically the

701
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 2: precursor to frailty which we're talking about early with acycopenia.

702
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: And they had a significant reduction in biological age and

703
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: they used six different biological age standardized tests to measure

704
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: it by logical age. Are you ready for the reveal? Okay,

705
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: Vitamin D supplementation. Oh there it is fantastic, rapid D baby, I.

706
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: Love, I'm such a fun Are you going to throw

707
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 1: in a Mega three fatty acids.

708
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: Satah, my friend, and the winner is a Mega three

709
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: fatty acids. And then the third intervention was exercise.

710
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: There you go, and.

711
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 2: It was three days a week, the world simplest at

712
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: home using bands. It was one of those, you know,

713
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: really daggy at home thirty minutes, three times a week. Now.

714
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: A couple of things here. So the cohort, because I

715
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 2: said in the interview with this lady, oh, that doesn't

716
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: surprise me because so many of my ladies are low

717
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: in vitamin D. So she said, interestingly, they measured their

718
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: cohort and their cohorts vitamin D levels were actually okay.

719
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 2: So this and that makes the study even more mind

720
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: blowing because well.

721
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: When I guess what level they got? Did the measure

722
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: the level that they got, they did.

723
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Speaker 2: But I can't. At the top of my head, I can't.

724
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: I would. I would hazard a guess. It's between one

725
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: hundred and one hundred and fifty nine animals per liter.

726
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: And what we'll do is we'll get the study and

727
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: we'll pop it in and we'll see if I'm right

728
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: or if I'm full of shit. Okay, you know the

729
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: interesting thing, because I just started writing my I've just

730
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: finished my new book, and in terms of my dietary interventions,

731
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: I talk about a number of different things. One is

732
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: lowering your ultra process food. Other to your vitamin D

733
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: supplementation and an Amiga three FIO. Because there's just so

734
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: much evidence and no obviously this study I might have

735
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: to I might have to get that study and put

736
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: it into my book before it's published for anyone.

737
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: Well, it is published now. It's called the DO Health Trial,

738
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: So just google do Health Trial and there's a whole

739
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: website and there's a whole bunch of subsequent studies that

740
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: so they've opened up the die. So then other researchers

741
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: have gone in and done all the data. So the

742
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: three interventions, they broke the groups up into all these

743
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: different groups, so like one group just did exercise alone,

744
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: one group just took vitamin D one and.

745
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: They all love it.

746
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: They mixed it all up. But of course the group

747
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: that got the best results was the group that did

748
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: all three interventions, and it just shows that the sum

749
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: of their parts is greater than their whole. And one

750
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: of their big findings is that you know, when you

751
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: combine interventions, you often will receive this out and.

752
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: You know why I'm not surprised by this beacause there

753
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: are no twelve published wholemarks of aging such as inflammation,

754
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: loss of peruleiostheosis, and mitochondrial dysfunction. There's twelve that has

755
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: been recognized and again in my book, exercise targets all

756
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: twelve of the whole marks of aging vinamin D I

757
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: can't remember where it's ten or twelve off the top

758
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: of my head, and Amiga three at least seven ory

759
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: of those whole marks of aging. So there are multiple

760
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: entry points into the body by what these are having

761
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: positive effects and then the synergy, as you say, if

762
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: they're all positive, then that's synergy.

763
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: That synergistic effect, and you don't need to be insufficient

764
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: or deficient in those market in those nutrients for it

765
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: to be beneficial. In fact, she said, when they when

766
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: they massage the data and they pulled out the deficient

767
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: or insufficient people, that sixty one percent reduction in invasive

768
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: cancers jumped a lot higher. So that's what blew my

769
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: mind because I was like, oh, is it just because

770
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: everyone's so low in those nutrients, But it's like, no,

771
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: it actually offers a protective element and that's a true biohack,

772
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like people talk about biohacking,

773
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: this is in my mind what true biohacking is. Where

774
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: you've got average normal levels so you're not deficient or insufficient,

775
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: but then you biohack by even adding more and you

776
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: get this huge like reduction in invasive cancers by sixty

777
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: one percent.

778
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: Like this is right. So this is the point where

779
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: if you're listening, stop listening to wankers like Professor David

780
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: Sinclair touting fucking AMMN that has got really small industry

781
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: back studies that are just not just buy fucking vinamin

782
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: D and good quality of Mega three fish oil.

783
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: And look, neither me nor you we don't have any brands.

784
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: That we're I'm not.

785
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: I wish I did, Jesus, I'd be a millionaire by.

786
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: Now, I know. But look, neither of us want to go.

787
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: We don't want for good reasons.

788
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: Right.

789
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: So so this is what my doc put me on.

790
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: Is rapid D. It's orthoplex orthoplex rapid D and fuck

791
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: my levels went boom. Yeah, And I am a big

792
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: fan like and this is where the medical system and

793
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: functional medicine are very different. And I know you know

794
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: this because you're in this space, right. It is the

795
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: medical system. Doctors don't even test for it, and they

796
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: will say, don't worry about your vintamin D unless you

797
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: are insufficient, right.

798
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: Which is or even deficient even I mean most of

799
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: our ladies come in insufficient. The doctors haven't mentioned anything.

800
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: The vitamins well below fifty before they suggest, whereas we

801
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: like our ladies at least over eighty, ideally over one hundred.

802
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm same, get into that one hundred to

803
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty band because optimal is very different

804
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: to what the sick curse system will take. And that's

805
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: we don't have a healthcare system. We got a sick

806
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: curse system, right, So that that's the difference. So if

807
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: you want to be optimal, get your vitamin D up.

808
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: The other thing is Amiga threes. Get do There's a

809
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: test called Amiga quant. You can go to Amiga quant

810
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: and measure your Amiga three in debt, which is a

811
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: measure of the Amiga threes in your red blood sales,

812
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: which is a marker of the last three months. People

813
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: with an Amiga three index of IoT live five years longer.

814
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: Than people with an Amiga three index.

815
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: Of five, right and mine is six? Expression has that right?

816
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a spot. It's a fingerprick if yes,

817
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: we're talking about as similar. It's actually a thing, a

818
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: dry blood spot. So you actually prick your finger, prick

819
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: your finger. There's a couple of great we do this

820
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: test and you get a whole bunch of Amiga like

821
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: an advanced Amiga panel. You get a Mega three six ratio,

822
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: you get a Mega three index. And so for example,

823
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm on a one hundred and twenty day protocol at

824
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: the moment with I'm actually using a brand called Zinzeno,

825
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: which is a Swiss brand. So we're measuring the blood

826
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: spot and I'm taking this citrus based oil. I actually

827
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: mix it with my dark chocolate collagen. My Chief, I

828
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: love Chief does a great dark hot chocolate collagen, and

829
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: so I taste like a jaffa because you've got three

830
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: oil that is citrusy and you can't taste the fishiness

831
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: of it, and then you have the collagen. And so

832
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: over this one hundred and twenty days and they've got

833
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: they've done something like I don't know, four hundred thousand

834
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: of these tests and so they have a lot of

835
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: research to show the improvements. And so I'm hoping mine

836
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: will be over eight my Amiga three index, my Amiga

837
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: index will be over eight percent when I retest in

838
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: a few weeks.

839
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so all our family got tested, and Oscar

840
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: has been the one who's been the best at TICK

841
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: and his his is not above it great. Mine's about

842
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: six and a half and was about five. No I

843
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Technodic Naturals, And again, listeners, we have new affiliations with

844
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: any brands, any fish oiler you want to. Don't buy

845
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: the ship from Chemist were hosts. Please do not buy

846
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: that ship. Go to you can go to I four,

847
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: which does independent testing, screens them for tensos and toxins,

848
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: looks at the purity. So you talked about Zenzeno I

849
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: Technotic Naturals that there will be good quality ones. Spend

850
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: your money on that chip because that impact of a

851
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: particularly when you combine vitamin D and Amiga three thai

852
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: acids an exercise for boom boom.

853
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: And I'm really gat to talk about anything else.

854
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like, let's just guys, get off

855
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: the podcast, go and get on your vitamin ding a

856
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: Omega three. But just a quick fun fact that I

857
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 2: learned from interviewing the head researcher from that drue health trial.

858
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: They used an algae based Omega three ah, not a

859
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: not a fish based one, and one of the main

860
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: there were two reasons. Number one, because this was a

861
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: double blind study that it couldn't have a fish taste

862
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: because it needed to be because the placebo group were

863
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: getting sugar pill or whatever it was. So but number two,

864
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: for sustainability, they did a lot of research and they

865
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: said algae based. But interestingly, throughout my career, I've always

866
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: heard that algae based Amiga three supplements have a worse

867
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: uptake in the body, that they're not as bioavailable as

868
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: the fish one. And I mentioned this to her and

869
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: she's like, well, I've got the three thousand studies, three

870
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: thousand subjects study to show that, yes, there was a

871
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: big uptake in it. So I wonder if we might

872
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: be seeing And one of my girlfriends, who owns a

873
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: bunch of a bunch of supplement stores, she goes, we

874
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: don't really have many algae based Amiga three. She couldn't

875
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: think of any off the top of her head. So yeah,

876
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: there you go.

877
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: That's normally one that I say, if you're vegetarian, vegan,

878
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: you can go and.

879
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't be upset. Don't be upset if yeah, because.

880
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: Maybe we only need to look at it.

881
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, them coming through.

882
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So we have magnesium, we have color geen, we're

883
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: creatam we got vitamin D, we got amiga three. Yeah.

884
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that is worth pushing the boat on?

885
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: Only if you're insufficient or deficient. So this is where

886
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: testing comes in. So pretty much all of those if

887
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: you all, you know, I'm relatively comfortable recommending those, And

888
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: of course you can cycle in and out of them

889
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: and don't want you, you know, having buckets of powder

890
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: a day, so you might go through different phases. The

891
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: rest is just targeted. So, for example, a lot of

892
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: our ladies are low in iron, but I would never

893
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: recommend supplementing with iron unless you've been diagnosed. But that's

894
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 2: a big energy one. So if you're one of those

895
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: people that are listening going, oh yeah, I've been low

896
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: in iron for years, I'm like, get onto that shit.

897
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: You need to improve that because if you're waking up

898
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: with your knuckles dragging on the ground, you're getting sick

899
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: more regularly. You know. Low iron is a big one.

900
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, the rest of them are really just more

901
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: around if your own unique markers are insufficient, and then

902
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: you take a targeted one. B twelve is another one

903
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: to measure track.

904
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, very very good, and look those less.

905
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: The only other supplements that I'm ticking it too is

906
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: because of my recent condition. So I take iron because

907
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: when you do your open heart surgery, or even before it,

908
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: because of the condition, your hemoglobin drops through the floor

909
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: my hemoglobe. So I'm taking beef liver capsules. Higgins, just

910
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: close your ears on that one. The other one is

911
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: you biquin all, which is Coen's m Q ten And

912
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: that's again for my heart because I've just had open

913
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: heart surgery. I'm not suggesting everybody takes it, but the

914
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: one that I think is worthwhile looking into is glinac,

915
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: that combination of glycine and an acetyl cystein oka. And

916
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: so I remember with Professor Grant Scophi, we were at

917
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: a talk with this psychiatrist was showing all the studies

918
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: they were doing on an acetyl systing for mood and

919
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: and like psychosis and and just amazing. And then I

920
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: saw studies on GLINAC and a series of studies that

921
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: in animals, they reduce oxidative stress, they reduce inflammation, they

922
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: improve mitochondrial function to a couple of other things, and

923
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: enhance longevity. And then there was a series of studies

924
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: in older adults that showed they improve mitochondrial function, improved

925
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: oxidative stress, reduced ox of stress, reduced inflammation. Obviously, they

926
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: didn't look at longevity because it's not long enough of

927
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: a study. But when you see something like that where

928
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: you see it in animals, there's an impact on longevity

929
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: and there are describable mechanisms that contribute to that. And

930
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: then you see in humans they're saying mechanisms being up regulated.

931
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: That makes me set up and take notice. Yeah, but again,

932
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: probably don't need to be on that until you're in

933
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: your fortiesh prom or even fifties.

934
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: I tell you the cohort that responds really well to

935
00:53:54,320 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: NAK what you just mentioned is Perry and menopause transition

936
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: at women who are going through the storm season and

937
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 2: the hormonal fluctuations. We actually, aside from hormone replacement therapy,

938
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: which works really well for people, the only other supplement

939
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: we don't do the ashraganda, We don't do the herbs

940
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: or anything like that. But what we do do is

941
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: a combination of NACK which you just mentioned, and DIM

942
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: DIM complex as well, so we use switch nutrition. They

943
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: have a tub of NACK and a tub of DIM

944
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: and particularly in the last two weeks of your cycle,

945
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: when estrogen metabolism becomes super important for managing those hormonal fluctuations,

946
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: we find even if you're taking those just for the

947
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: two weeks leading up to period, we get a lot

948
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: of symptom reduction and symptom management, and that's because they work.

949
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: The mechanism behind it is helping your body to detoxify

950
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: those sex hormones, particularly those estrogen where you're getting those

951
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: estrogen spikes and then falling off a cliff. So yeah,

952
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: so I didn't I learned something today from where you're standing.

953
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: But for perimenopause menopause symptoms, it works very well. Certainly

954
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: for me it does.

955
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, the other thing you mentioned there is

956
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: HRT and I think that the evidence around HRT and

957
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: I is pretty there's still a bit of fear out

958
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: there that because there was old studies shown that it

959
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: might increase cancerous breast cancers completely disproven. And I know

960
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: several women who went on HRT halfway through menopause and went,

961
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, what a difference. Jesus Christ. Well, wasn't

962
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: I on this right from the start. And then for

963
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: men I think, which is big in the States but

964
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: not so much here. I think at a certain element,

965
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: and again this is getting your hormones measured. I think

966
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: testosterone replacemi therapy. I mean, I'm not on it yet

967
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: because I'm lifting lots of heavy shit and my testosterone

968
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: is still okay. But I think in the future I

969
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: will probably be on some sort of testosterone replacement therapy

970
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: because when you have those mature hormones that are so

971
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: critical for us to function normally, when they drop like

972
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: just bad shit happens.

973
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, and we don't have to we don't have

974
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: to live like that anymore. That this is again true

975
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: biohacking when we can help to manage that natural decline,

976
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: and particularly with women, because you do have such a

977
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: big hormone readjustment through menopause, it's managing that storm season.

978
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: And then if you manage it well, just like a

979
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: sailor manages a storm out on the ocean, He battens

980
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: down the hatches, he locks the cupboards, he gets the

981
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: sale ready. You manage to navigate the storm season while

982
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: you come out the other side less batter than bruised.

983
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: And we have so many options available to us now.

984
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: So it's a really good news story. It's a great

985
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: time to be aging because we have got these We

986
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: have got these great new bio hacks at our fingertips.

987
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: They just have to that's once you're getting into hormone replacement,

988
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: you need to be working with a doctor that is

989
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: really experienced. And that's why I'm a huge advocate of integrative, integrative,

990
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: functional medicine doctors who are really taking a root cause

991
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: approach and they've done a lot of extra training. So

992
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: you just want to make sure that you're not just

993
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: dealing with a regular GP who hasn't just literally hasn't

994
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: done the training.

995
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I tell you what, I fully endorsed that.

996
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: And I use my functional medicine doctor picture I to

997
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: Kitlin and post heart surgery because if I hadn't been

998
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: working with her, I can tell you right now, I

999
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: my recovery would not have been as quick or really

1000
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: as it has been. Yeah. One hundred percent. So let's

1001
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: look that. The last thing that I wanted, the topic

1002
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: that I want to talk about, which is kind of

1003
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: related to this, are our key biomarkers to track, like

1004
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: what are the things that people should be going and

1005
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: doing it, including the ones that you know your GP

1006
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, and that a lot of people just

1007
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: aren't doing because they haven't visited a doctor for years.

1008
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: And this is especially you know, as you get north

1009
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: of forty. You know, previously I would have said as

1010
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: you get north of fifty, but no, I just did

1011
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: a podcast this morning on the massive increase in cancers

1012
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: in people under fifty nine, not because we are aging

1013
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: biologically much quicker and that's why there's more cancer. So

1014
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: I think we the old fit for forty is that

1015
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: the new fifty? Right?

1016
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're one of the unlucky ones that isn't

1017
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 2: managing their health, well, it's it's this interesting conundrum. I'll

1018
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 2: throw two quick stats at you and then i'll talk

1019
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: about the biomarkers. The average lifespan in Australia has just

1020
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: gone backwards for the first time in thirty years, so

1021
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly. It's unfortunate, isn't it. With all

1022
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: this great technology, our average lifespan has actually gone backwards

1023
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: for the first time.

1024
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: That our kids are predicted to not live as long

1025
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: as us. That's fucked. That is fucked.

1026
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: But before you go necking yourself, let me give you

1027
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: some good news story. The rate of centenarians in Australia,

1028
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: people over one hundred years old, is growing at a

1029
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: rate of six percent per year. So this is two

1030
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: contradicting stats. Right, you go, well, how can that be?

1031
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: Well I'll explain how that is. The reason why our

1032
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: age has gone backwards is because of chronic, mostly preventable disease.

1033
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: So let's think of if we really want to biohack

1034
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: our way into longevity and a long life. The first

1035
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: goal is to avoid the four horsemen, as Peter Attire

1036
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: calls them. Okay, because that is if you're able to

1037
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: avoid the four horsemen, that's why our life SPAN's going backwards.

1038
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: If you're one of the lucky ones like you and me,

1039
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: you proactively went and had heart surgery to avoid one

1040
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: of the four horsemen, which is heart disease. If you

1041
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: are able to avoid the four horsemen, then you are

1042
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: going to live a bloody long time and at the moment,

1043
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: I feel like the majority of your listeners are so

1044
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: interested in their health, they're going to be that cohort.

1045
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: But the four horsemen are heart disease, metabolic disease so

1046
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: type two diabetes, fastest growing, one hundred percent preventable cancer,

1047
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: and neurodegenerative diseases, Alzheimer's, dementia, etc. So all of those.

1048
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: For what underpins that is inflammation and that's why we

1049
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: hear so much about managing our inflammation. That's why a

1050
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: Mega three vitamin D mechanism and has been so successful

1051
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: in that trial. So yeah, there's a good news story

1052
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: for you before I get onto biomarkers. But that's why

1053
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: prevention is so powerful and taking a proactive approach to

1054
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: your health. Because if we're a true bio hacker and

1055
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: number one goal is to avoid the four horsemen, how

1056
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: do we do that? Well, we measure, and we track

1057
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: and we pick up the early early whispers. So for example,

1058
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: heart disease, what's your cholesterol like precursor for heart disease?

1059
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: And it's a whole other podcast on cholesterol, but we've

1060
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: got our standard cholesterol panels that you'll get where you'll

1061
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: get your triglycerides, your LDL, your HDL. Okay, if you're

1062
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: just getting the standard one's done and everything's perfect, then

1063
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: you're good. But if you're coming in and you'r LDL,

1064
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: which is the lousy cholesterols high, and your tryglycerides are high, well,

1065
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: you might want to then consider doing what are in

1066
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: a in functional health world will then send you off

1067
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: for an advanced lipid panel so we can actually dig

1068
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: down deeper, whereas it regular jeep I.

1069
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: Would say not, you want to consider you bloody well shot? Yeah,

1070
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: go and get your LDL, particle size measures, your LP,

1071
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: little A, your april B, all of those things, because

1072
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: it's a very crude instrument just overall LDL and hits

1073
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: the L cholesterols crude ears.

1074
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 2: Right correct one hundred percent. But for those of you

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01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: that are sitting here and your cholesterol is perfect and

1076
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: you don't have body fat issues and you've got no

1077
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: high blood pressure, then that's probably enough for you. You

1078
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: might want to save your two hundred bucks or whatever

1079
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: whatever it costs to get the advanced panel. But for

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01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: a lot of my ladies, they have never struggled with cholesterol,

1081
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: and suddenly they hit pery and menopause and their cholesterol

1082
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: jumps up and they have no idea what so so.

1083
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: So the whole reason why we measure and track these

1084
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: biomarkers is to pick up the early warning signs. And

1085
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: your GP won't tell you these because they're just too busy.

1086
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: And the gps are designed the medical systems designed to

1087
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: detect disease. So I have these ladies that have had

1088
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: insulin resistance for five or ten years that we look

1089
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: at their markers. We measure a marker called homer ir

1090
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: so hmair, which is just that it's actually an calculation of

1091
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of other metabolic markers, but that will definitively

1092
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 2: tell you if you're insulin resistant. And HbA one c

1093
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: is another really powerful one. We know that, you know,

1094
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: we like our ladies or our members to be under

1095
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: five point two percent for HbA one c, but we

1096
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: know that five point six to six point five is

1097
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: pre diabetes type two diabetes. So the markers we track

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01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: we in our program in a Vitality, which is the

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: main program that our members start on. So if you

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Speaker 2: come into Jasmina and if you come into Vitality three sixty,

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: we do this test. You get fifty five buyer markers,

1102
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: and then you do our inner Vitality program, and so

1103
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: we're measuring cardiovascular markers, we're measuring inflammation inflammatory markers. We

1104
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: want to look at HCRP, creating canas like take dehydrogenase.

1105
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: There's lots of inflammation markers, but they're ones that we

1106
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: just look at. We look at certain hormones such as

1107
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: thyroid panel. We don't do the sex hormones. That's a

1108
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: whole other conversation, but we certainly for some people we

1109
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 2: do send them off for them. We look at liver function,

1110
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: kidney function, We look at key micronutrients, so iron is one.

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01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: We spoke about vitamin D as well. So it's important

1112
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: to start to track and understand what these markers are

1113
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: telling you. So EGFI, for example, is a really important

1114
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: kidney marker. Kidney disease is silent, and we have people

1115
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: that are at stage three or stage four kidney disease

1116
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: and didn't even realize it. And EDFI is a great

1117
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: market to help you also understand how well your body detoxifies.

1118
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: And you know, we have lots of jokes in the

1119
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: program of who's going to have the worst hangover and

1120
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: if your EDFI is, you know, lower than this mark,

1121
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: then you're going to have a much, a much worse

1122
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: hangover than someone who's EDFI is well over ninety. So yeah,

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: we educate you so that you understand what these markers

1124
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: mean and you know how to track them and pick

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01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: up those early whispers so that you can keep those

1126
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: four horsemen at bay.

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01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I totally agree that keeping those things that

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01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: they is absolutely critical. And yeah, yeah would fully endorse

1129
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: people to go along and explore those deeper markers, and

1130
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: even before they get there, and if people go, well,

1131
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't have the money for that. I think making

1132
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: a screen from metabolic syndrome is so frigging important. So

1133
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: for people listening, metabolic syndrome is basically a cluster of conditions,

1134
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: or it's a condition that is there's three from five markers,

1135
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 1: and it depends who you listen to right about what

1136
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: the cutoffs are, but basically it's high blood pressure, low

1137
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: head SDL or the good and inverticomas, cholesterol, high triglycerides,

1138
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: high fasting glucose, and central obesicly high waste circumference. Three

1139
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: from five you have metabolic syndrome. And especially if you

1140
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: have four or five. And what that means, metabolic syndrome

1141
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: means that you are falling apart metabolically, and metabolic syndrome

1142
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: dramatically increases the risk of every one of the four horsemen.

1143
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: So if you want a very cheap and easy thing,

1144
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: it's because you're doctorable to all of those things right,

1145
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: other than your wear circumference, and you can measure your

1146
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: own blood wear circumference. But I tell you what, if

1147
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 1: you have got metabolic syndrome, you need to sort your shit.

1148
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: That is like what is less important. This is the

1149
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: most important thing for you to sort out. And that's

1150
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: where then if you do have that fly, that's where

1151
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: then you absolutely have to go and see somebody like

1152
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: you to do a deep dive to say, okay, so

1153
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: highly I sort this stuff out.

1154
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: And the great news is with metabolic dysfunction or insulin resistance,

1155
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: the beginnings of your body not it's basically what you've

1156
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: just described. There is a body that is overfed, a

1157
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: body that is struggling to manage the calories that are

1158
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: coming in, and so liver kicks in to try to

1159
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: help out and say, oh, we're going to release more

1160
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: cholesterol to try to bind. You know, insifusting, insulin goes up,

1161
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: like glucose goes up. All of this is happening because

1162
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: the body is trying to manage being in a state

1163
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: of overfed. But the great news is there are lots

1164
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 2: of really simple little tweaks that you can make rather

1165
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: than oh my gosh, I've got to overhaul my whole

1166
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 2: diet and change my whole lifestyle. We often say to people.

1167
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: Some people think, oh, I need to lose weight to

1168
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: get healthy, or often with these members, we say you

1169
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: need to get healthy in order to lose weight, and

1170
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: so things. This is where things like fasting, Like we

1171
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: say to our members, you must feel hungry for fifteen

1172
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: minutes twice a day below the neck. So feel that

1173
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 2: hunger below the neck, not in your head or your mouth,

1174
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 2: because that's a craving. That's a different You've got to

1175
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: feel the grumble in your stomach. Don't eat breakfast until

1176
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: you feel the grumble. There it goes grelan, the gremlin

1177
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: hormone Greeland, feel that hunger, sit with that hunger for

1178
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, then eat something, and then a second time

1179
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: during the day. Because what you're doing then is you're

1180
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: increasing your metabolic flexibility. Your body is searching for energy

1181
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: because your blood sugar's coming down, which is fabulous, and

1182
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: then it's hopefully switching back on lipolysis, which is fat burning.

1183
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: Because we have so much an abundance of amazing energy

1184
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: just sitting on our asses and our tummies. But when

1185
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: we've got metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance, our body has

1186
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: forgotten how to access It's the it can't switch between

1187
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 2: burning glucose and fat. It's like a rusted like trying

1188
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: to imagine trying to change the gears in a rusted

1189
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: old coombe van. So all these sorry, yeah, we.

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: Could just jump in there about how much energy we have.

1191
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: I often tell us, though some of my lessoners have

1192
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: heard it, but I've got a research paper of the

1193
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: world record fast right, and it's a Scottish guy in

1194
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: I think was nineteen seventy one, who was two hundred

1195
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: kilos and he went into seas doc and he said, Doc,

1196
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm a bit fat. I think I need to stop

1197
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: eating for a while. Will you supervise me? And he

1198
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: fasted for three hundred and eighty two days?

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Speaker 2: Are you like fully fasted?

1200
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: Fully fasted?

1201
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: After? I think it was six months or a year.

1202
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: He started having a tiny drop of milk in his tea,

1203
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: but he did not eat anything for three hundred and

1204
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: eighty two days. He lost one.

1205
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: Hundred and twenty kilos and he.

1206
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 1: Kept it off.

1207
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 3: So those people will tell you that fasting is dangerous.

1208
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: I know, well, I've just finished watching Alone. Have you

1209
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: watched any of those series.

1210
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a big TV fan, but that is the

1211
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: one thing that I do like.

1212
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: Those people lived off the odd eel for you know,

1213
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: for ninety days or something. But I've also heard a

1214
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: fun fact that we have enough energy on our body

1215
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: stored his body fat to walk from Sydney to Melbourne

1216
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: without eating.

1217
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: So they they go. Most people have got oodles of

1218
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 1: energy kicking around on them. Yeah, it's and that's what

1219
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: it was there for, and in hunted owther at times.

1220
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: But sorry I did, I did cut you off. We

1221
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: apologies for that.

1222
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: My good news message to those that are wanting to

1223
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: punch you and I in the face saying yeah, yeah,

1224
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: we know that, we know we're overfed, we know that

1225
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: we've just got to clean up our diet. We're like, well,

1226
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: you bloody, try to do it when you're insulin resistant

1227
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: and grown up on ult process food. So feel free

1228
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: to punch us in the face because I have seen

1229
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: in my twenty six years how hard it is to

1230
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 2: change habits. So my good news story is when it

1231
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 2: comes to insulin resistance and reversing that and reversing metabolic syndrome,

1232
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: it's lots of really little easy tweaks done. So don't

1233
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: worry so much about the scales to start with, because

1234
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 2: if you are agreed insulin resistant or pre diabetic diabet

1235
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: what used to work won't work anymore, and so the

1236
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 2: scales will just make you want to neck yourself because

1237
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: it's just too depressing. So fasting twice a day, a

1238
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: supplement called myo andossatol, which is a very safe insulin sensitizer. Again,

1239
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: I don't you know, my ladies will go super excited

1240
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,799
Speaker 2: about taking this supplement, and I'm like, that's just a tweak.

1241
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: It's going to make a small difference, but it's not

1242
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 2: a game changer. And of course exercise, so a combination

1243
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: of of you know, cardio strength, I mean honestly, as

1244
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 2: long as you're out there moving and then cutting down

1245
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: those carbohydrates really starting to bring those carves right down

1246
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: will improve your insulin sensitivity. So just focus on making

1247
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: those habit changes and reducing the If you pick one

1248
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,959
Speaker 2: part of your day that you know is a struggle

1249
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: for you. So you know, I've got a massive sweet

1250
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: tooth for me. I had to work on after dinner

1251
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: because I was all having these big desserts. So just

1252
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: pick that one part of the day that is your

1253
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: downfall and just hyper focus on improving that, and then

1254
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: over time the habits just slowly improve, and then you'll

1255
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: start to see that like polus is kicking back on again.

1256
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: And look, if you are really unhealthy and you've struggled

1257
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: and you've tried everything, then it is worth having a

1258
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: conversation with your doctor about a ZMPIC.

1259
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Or get your most tipped for

1260
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: three hundred and two days. I just you know, there's

1261
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: one there's one little language change just before we finish up.

1262
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: There's one little language change that I think we should

1263
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: do that would have a massive behavioral intervention or behavioral effect,

1264
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 1: and it's changing type two diabetes to carbohydrate intolerance. Ah.

1265
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: If we just did that, yeah, it would be an

1266
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 1: absolute game changer.

1267
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,440
Speaker 3: Forget about type two diabetes.

1268
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: You are carbohydrate intolerance.

1269
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: I love that because everyone knows when they're dairy intolerant. Yeah, yeah,

1270
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: gluten intolerant. I love it. Sorry, can't no no to

1271
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 2: the past or I'm actually carbohydrating tolerance.

1272
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: I have.

1273
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: I have a flare up.

1274
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: Just around in your head. Just drive. That's the big

1275
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: thing that worked with my mum, who was diabetic for decades,

1276
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: and since since bringing out on board and visiting Camp Teelor,

1277
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: she has nigh lost over thirty kilos in wit and

1278
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: resolved her diabetes right, which is just wow.

1279
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 2: You must go.

1280
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: It's very cool. It's very cool to see she's going to.

1281
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: Be on this planet for an extra ten years and.

1282
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: Now doing strength training and in the gym almost eity

1283
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: and and in the gym lifting heavy ship, which is wow.

1284
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: That is such a good news story. You should definitely

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Speaker 2: write her into your books. I think that's that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I love hearing stories like that.

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Speaker 1: So Amelia, I look, this has been awesome conversation of

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Speaker 1: violent agreement.

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Speaker 3: All please.

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Speaker 1: Work. Can our listeners go to find out more about

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Speaker 1: you and to join your Vitality three sixty program and

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Speaker 1: any other things.

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Speaker 2: Yet going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh, look so if you go to v three sixty

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Speaker 2: dot health, that's where you can see my business partner,

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Speaker 2: doctr Yasmina, and myself. We run this platform Vitality three

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Speaker 2: sixty where we do we bring all those functional medicine

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Speaker 2: tests to life and we run programs help whether it's

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Speaker 2: reversing your insulin resistance. But our flagship program is in

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Speaker 2: a Vitality I call it the sleep Well at Night tests.

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Speaker 2: You get your fifty five biomarkers. It's a great starting point.

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Speaker 2: You can also get your bioage on top of that

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Speaker 2: as well, which a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Like to do.

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Speaker 2: And then Instagram is probably where I'm most active so

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Speaker 2: and I give lots of free you know, education ebooks,

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Speaker 2: supplement cheat sheets away and I'm very active on DM

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Speaker 2: So follow me on Instagram. We can get connected, you

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Speaker 2: can get to know me a lot better there. And

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Speaker 2: then of course my podcast Healthy Her It is for

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Speaker 2: directed towards mums, so if you're a mum in midlife

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Speaker 2: then it's a perfect one for you.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, this has been brilliant. Thank you for sharing your

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Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge, and yeah, keep doing what you're doing

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Speaker 1: and keep loving it. I'm shure you well.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much,