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Speaker 1: Five double A nights with Matthew pantalas time on a

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Speaker 1: Monday night for Astro Space News since the website and

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Speaker 1: Dave Rennick is the man behind it. He's on the line. Hello, Dave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good to be with you again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Likewise, I got a great question from Graham here on

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Speaker 1: the text line to to start us up. He says,

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Speaker 1: it's becoming more obvious. The International Space Station is quite

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Speaker 1: old now and will be de orbited in the next

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Speaker 1: few years and crash into the ocean. Is it possible

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Speaker 1: the next space station whine orbit Earth but orbit the

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Speaker 1: Moon instead? Is that possible?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's quite possible. No, we will have a space

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Speaker 2: station up there. They're going to prove. There'll be others

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Speaker 2: to go up. There'll be private ones put up in

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Speaker 2: space too, but they're going to put one in orbit

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Speaker 2: around the Moon as well. We're going to need that

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Speaker 2: if we're going to go to the Moon to establish

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Speaker 2: a base there. It's going to be a halfway point.

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Speaker 2: So there's two answers to that question. The space station

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Speaker 2: we've got now is pretty old, which one out and

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Speaker 2: they're going to dub that in the ocean soon. But

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Speaker 2: I think they'll build another one that the Chinese have

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Speaker 2: got theirs. So we'll be living and working in space

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Speaker 2: in the next twenty to thirty years, probably before that.

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Speaker 2: You know, private space stations are on the way. People

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Speaker 2: are going to work and live in them. People are

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Speaker 2: going to go up there for holiday as well. But

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Speaker 2: private space stations are different than what Nas've got now.

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Speaker 2: But I think we'll see both. We'll see another space

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Speaker 2: station put up there, a different type, and of course

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Speaker 2: one around the Moon.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, yeah, yeah. Indeed, Ricky's called in from

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Speaker 1: the York Peninsula with a question about falling stars, can

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Speaker 1: I Ricky?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, guys, Ricky Dave.

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Speaker 4: I wondered if you can explain this one. Me and

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Speaker 4: my wife were driving back from Edithburgh heading west and

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Speaker 4: we saw a massive falling star.

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Speaker 2: Virtually no, no, it's a media or.

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Speaker 4: Menial and it was. It was absolutely huge. It looked

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Speaker 4: like it just went in the hill behind and then

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Speaker 4: about three minutes later where it disappeared, a bright light reappeared,

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Speaker 4: split into two whoa, and then it went into a

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Speaker 4: W shape and both parts shot back upwards like a

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Speaker 4: huge W in the sky. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: No one else around to see it by any chance, Ricky.

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Speaker 5: Just me and my wife.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was crazy. I even turned the headlights

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Speaker 2: But I've got no idea. That to me is just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I believe you, but wow.

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Speaker 4: Like, and the one on the left hand side was

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Speaker 4: a little bit brighter than the one on the right

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Speaker 4: hand side. Once separated, and it gained speed going down

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Speaker 4: and then in the art shot upwards both of them

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Speaker 4: at exactly the same time and then disappeared.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been refraction in clouds or something.

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Speaker 4: There was no clouds there. It was crazy. It was

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Speaker 4: like an open sky.

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Speaker 3: M not sure.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea was this convert at all. Not

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Speaker 2: heard of anything like that before. Usually when they're a

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Speaker 2: media or that comes in, they just come in and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, well there we are, or you've seen something unusual.

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Speaker 1: If only you had dash cam, hey, Richie, that would

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Speaker 4: Good exactly than.

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Speaker 2: It is. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's a new one. Before we get

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Speaker 1: onto people calling in with all the weird things they've

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Speaker 1: seen in the sky, let's talk about separating astronomy from astrology. Dave,

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Speaker 1: this is on your page, and there's you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who who believe in, you know, the

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Speaker 1: planets and what they're doing billions of kilometers away influence

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but this goes way back. I mean,

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Speaker 2: astrology is one of the oldest it's not a science,

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Speaker 2: but it's one of the oldest things we've we've had.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, past kings and queens and empires.

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Speaker 2: I've always had an astrologer or someone like that. It's

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Speaker 2: Pebby used to lie under the stars there and make

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Speaker 2: patterns in the sky. The problem with astrology is, and

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Speaker 2: this annoys me because when I go to do a

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Speaker 2: we've got Dave Renicki here from Warhope, and isn't astrology

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Speaker 2: he's going to talk? No, it's not, it's not. There's

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Speaker 2: a difference between the two. One of them is a

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Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious that the stars can't tell your future.

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Speaker 2: Astronomy also made up of different constellations up there, but

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Speaker 2: they only choose twelve. There are thirteen constellations. What happens

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Speaker 2: to call, well, there's not I called a fucious that

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Speaker 2: they've left out of it because it doesn't fit into

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Speaker 2: the twelve month calendar. So you know, if that's not right,

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Speaker 2: I don't know it. Look, people religiously follow this. I'll

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Speaker 2: have trouble. I have a lot of trouble getting people

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Speaker 2: to a talk a slide talk on astronomy from time

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Speaker 2: and time again. I have so much trouble. I've got

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Speaker 2: to advertise. We're lucky to get maybe ten, twenty or

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Speaker 2: thirty people in a large room. After heaps and heaps

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Speaker 2: of advertising. You've only just got to put one little

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Speaker 2: panel up on Facebook and say you've got a meeting

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Speaker 2: tonight and we're going to read your cards for you

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Speaker 2: tell your future. The radio is pretty savage on this stuff.

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Speaker 2: We've got one here in Sydney that I talk to.

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Speaker 2: I do a great segment on there and they love

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Speaker 2: what I do. But they all always have this astrology

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Speaker 2: that comes on as well. Look, honestly, I don't know

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Speaker 2: offend anyone, but it's not real. It's just you can't

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Speaker 2: tell the future. The future hasn't happened. Yet, as Einstein

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Speaker 2: told us how the universe works, we know how it works.

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Speaker 2: It evolves in a system, a systematic way. Everything's moving

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Speaker 2: away from everything else. Stars are born, they die, and

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Speaker 2: new stars are born. It's not a case the new

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Speaker 2: stars stars dying and they come back to life again. Nothing

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Speaker 2: works that way. So you can't foretill something's going to

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Speaker 2: happen by looking at a group as stars. It's the

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Speaker 2: same when we have an alignment of planets. Thank god,

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Speaker 2: this hasn't happened anymore. But in the past few years.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this about thirty years now on radio.

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Speaker 2: When we used to have an alignment of planets there

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Speaker 2: you have so many people, you know, asking the question

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Speaker 2: is it going to cause big tides? It's not going

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Speaker 2: to do it because the planets are even though they're

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Speaker 2: in a lion, the gravitational pull on those is very

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Speaker 2: very weak. But astrology and astronomy, the word itself, is

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Speaker 2: too close. I think they're both too close to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't help you with no.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know it's crazy, isn't it that?

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Speaker 3: Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Leave it alone. There's a giant sun spot alert but

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Speaker 1: possibly widespread auroras or aurora whatever the plural is coming out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So when when can we expect this to what we

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Speaker 1: see it as fun north from the south parl of

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Speaker 1: is Adelaite, South Australia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more than likely. I mean remember the last week

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Speaker 2: or the week before there were quite a lot of

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Speaker 2: we don't know what's going to happen with it. Sunspots

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Speaker 2: are usually a precursor to solar flares. This is the

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Speaker 2: biggest one we've seen in ten or fifteen years and

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Speaker 2: it's just rotating now from the other side of the Sun.

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Speaker 2: It'll face us in about two or three days time.

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Speaker 2: So when it's going to happen then, Look, there hasn't

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Speaker 2: if there is, we're going to be in for a

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Speaker 2: wild time. You'll see those photographs again appear on Facebook

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Speaker 2: and people be talking about heading out to the beach

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Speaker 2: great to have a look at and it gets people

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Speaker 2: out under the sky, but nothing yet. It's only a

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Speaker 2: sun spot. It is a massive sun spot. And as

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Speaker 2: So keep your fingers crossed. You'll know very soon when

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Speaker 2: people say, wow, you should have seen it last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeaholutely right. And you know what, I've always missed out

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Speaker 1: whenever I remember the first lot last year in May,

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Speaker 1: I reckon it was where we had them here in

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Speaker 1: South Australia and I was inside. It was a cold night.

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Speaker 1: I was inside watching Netflix, and after the movie it ended,

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Speaker 2: The corker with this one. It's amazing. We've only seen this.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen it by Earth Bounce that it's picked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed that's right. Jeff Bezos Scens added to Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk with the view that in only a handful of years,

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Speaker 1: within our lifetime, potentially millions of people could leave Earth

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Speaker 2: Sounds crazy, doesn't it. He's a visionary. I like Jeff Bezos,

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Speaker 2: people like him Elon Musk, these are the people that

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Speaker 2: may sound crazy now, but this is a possibility. Elon

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Speaker 2: And Bezos has come out now with his statement saying

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Speaker 2: And can you imagine. I say every time I do

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Speaker 2: it to be your rays. They're going to be able

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Speaker 2: One day. It is going to happen. Elon wasn't going

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Speaker 2: What happens when they go further out? We eventually peter out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love your accent too. I can't. I can't

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've had we've had many solar flares before,

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Speaker 2: You know, Airline Company has been running for decades now,

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Speaker 2: the reason for what happened there, but if there is

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Speaker 1: We've had them before those you say, date, but wasn't

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Speaker 1: It knocked out telecommunications. It might have even been more code.

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Speaker 1: Who knows? All right? Cue the yeah to the musically

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Speaker 7: This is a question that I've had in my mind

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Speaker 2: had a plan to have these satellites put into orbit

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Speaker 2: up there, and they could, you know, doing another satellites.

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Speaker 2: It was the Russians. We were worried about the time there.

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Speaker 2: This is in the Cold War when the Cold War

436
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Speaker 2: was just starting to thaw out. But you are right.

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Speaker 2: We don't know how true it is, but there's no

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Speaker 2: way of finding out because it's all hush hush. But

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Speaker 2: there's certainly the capability now disabling satellites using enemy satellites

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Speaker 2: up there with high powered laser. The Chinese have done

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Speaker 2: it quite easily. They've even shot on their own satellites

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Speaker 2: down the baser.

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Speaker 7: It just makes sense because you can just blind the

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Speaker 7: country or whatever and you're bugget.

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Speaker 2: You've hit an right on the head. The next war,

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Speaker 2: God help us that we don't have one. The next

447
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Speaker 2: war won't be fought on planet Earth. It'll be thought

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Speaker 2: in space. You've only got to knock out your well enemy.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that word. You've only got to knock

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Speaker 2: out another nation's communication system. Then you're dead in the water.

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Speaker 2: We rely on these satellites to do that, the satellites

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Speaker 2: for planes and everything our technology, and that's where it's

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Speaker 2: going to happen. Yeah, these satellites are are there. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they're in orbit. I don't know. You'll never know. But

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Speaker 2: the capability is there to do that high powered laces

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Speaker 2: on these satellites knocking out enemy satellites. And when you

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Speaker 2: do that, you can quipple a nation.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Good on your great question, Ian, and

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Speaker 1: bores that Marrion, Hello, bores.

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Speaker 3: Good, Ian, Dave, how a good? No, I want to

461
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Speaker 3: know when the next asteroid Earth is placed near Earth.

462
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Speaker 3: And also the last asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs,

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Speaker 3: they said was as rock.

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Speaker 1: Really a rock was an asteroid.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not laughing at I'm just I'm just I've

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Speaker 2: just been the sort of Look, where did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: I wonder was that something that you found in an

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Speaker 2: authorities source or just on.

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Speaker 3: Facebook or something just on a gut feeling. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, Look, the rock is a structure that simply came

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Speaker 2: from Earth itself. It wasn't a meteor that created as

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Speaker 2: rock or anything like that. And look, the one that

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Speaker 2: wiped the dinosaurs out was about fifteen to twenty k wide.

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Speaker 2: You've got to have a rock that big to be

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Speaker 2: able to do it. The airs Rock is nowhere near

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Speaker 2: that size. When the dinosaurs were wiped out, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: the impact of the rock itself, it was the after effect.

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Speaker 2: So that all the dust and dirt was blown into

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Speaker 2: the sky and the about six months after that, the

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Speaker 2: earth cooled down dramatically. All the food chain died out.

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Speaker 2: That the dinosaurs relied on the little animals that lived

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Speaker 2: in burrows in the ground there in the trees and everything.

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Speaker 2: They survived. But the dinosaurs couldn't do that, and we

484
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Speaker 2: had a nuclear winter. The earth froze because you've got

485
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Speaker 2: that clown cover that went up there and blocked the

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Speaker 2: sun out to six to twelve miles. They say, but

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with is rocketl.

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Speaker 3: But there's also one way New Earth in about twenty

489
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Speaker 3: thirty doing Earth you said, knock it off the balance,

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Speaker 3: So well.

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Speaker 2: Go careful with this one. Yet there is a story

492
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Speaker 2: about that. I think it's called a potus. But it

493
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Speaker 2: is a massive asteroids on it's way here. It's going

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Speaker 2: to pass by the Earth very very close. Then it

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Speaker 2: swings out again. It comes back about seven eight years later,

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Speaker 2: I believe. And this is the one that we're worried about.

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Speaker 2: But hang on. Good news. We've got the technology now,

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Speaker 2: the wherewith all that and the ability to move one

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Speaker 2: of these things. And if we see this thing coming

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Speaker 2: our way, we'll have enough lead up time to send

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Speaker 2: one or a fleet of rock us out there to

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Speaker 2: be able to push it, to nudge it to one side.

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Speaker 2: And if anyone doubts that, don't, have a look at

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Speaker 2: the mission called dart DAC. The don't mission happen about

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Speaker 2: only about five or even ten years ago. Five about

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Speaker 2: five years ago, we sent a spacecraft down to it,

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Speaker 2: a large asteroid, and the sole purpose of that was

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Speaker 2: to hit it with a bullet and see if we

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Speaker 2: could move it, and we did so we knew now

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Speaker 2: how much energy it tastes to move a certain sized rock.

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Speaker 2: So we're the first generation in history to be able

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Speaker 2: to change. You know, if there was to be a

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Speaker 2: mass destruction with something coming our way it was nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty or seventy or eighty, wouldn't be only do anything

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Speaker 2: about it that we do now. I think it's called

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Speaker 2: a poffice APO PNHIS, but it's going to be a grazor.

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Speaker 2: It's not on a direct course, thank goodness.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, just one last call of David up

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Speaker 1: in the hills, could I.

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Speaker 5: Date just a quick one that they wouldn't even need

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Speaker 5: to shoot things down in space. The GPS constellation existed

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Speaker 5: nearly a decade before the American government shows after a

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Speaker 5: major airline accident to make codes available to use it publicly,

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Speaker 5: and that can be turned on and off literally within

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Speaker 5: a single press of a key. Agin as civilization. With

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Speaker 5: GPS suddenly going dark for all military uses, and that

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Speaker 5: is literally a mayor is their network, they could literally

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Speaker 5: bridge one button and pull it offline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty right. I wouldn't do at all.

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Speaker 1: Good on your Dave. Thank you for that. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to leave it there. I mean we're here in Adelaide.

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Speaker 1: We get out the Fuller street directory again. If that happened,

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Speaker 1: imagine that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you destroyed we destroyed the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we have, indeed, Dave. Always great speaking with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. So many callers coming out

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Speaker 1: of the woodwork right in the last few minutes. But

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Speaker 1: really appreciate your time as always, David. People want to

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Speaker 1: look at your website astro SpaceNews dot com dot.

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Speaker 2: Au stories up there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely well, Monday night. Thank you, Thank you indeed,

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Speaker 1: always great having in mind