WEBVTT - Can Outsiders Shake-Up the Grand Final Race? 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.039 Hello, welcome to Daddy Tell You, our aneral podcast on 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:12.880 Brent Reed joined by for Team. We could do a 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:13.480 bit light on. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:16.920 Dream the time. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.000 Pam's busy out with the nerl W finals launch. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.480 So people, I reckon, people are actually enjoying the last 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.040 day of sun for the rain comes. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:26.720 They're just have you been looking at the weather? 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.080 They're claiming finals work, but they're actually probably sunning themselves 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:30.920 on a beach somewhere. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.360 I work on a Sunday and I must admit I 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.080 wish I was sunning myself on a beach somewhere. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.159 I live a nice day, glorious on the northern beaches. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.960 Now what a weekend of foot you mentioned you're working 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:46.599 yesterday doing the wash up from the weekend. Obviously, Well 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:48.640 let's start with the Shafts, because that was a pretty 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.480 momentous win for them. I think gone it was seven 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:52.479 finals came without a. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.000 Win, seven without a win so since twenty eighteen and 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.680 four without four since fitz so first. It fits his 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.880 first finals win. So yeah, it was a big game. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.880 For how significant do we do you think it was? 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.479 Monkey is now off the back of those guys. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.120 I think absolutely there is an element of the monkey 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.120 being off the back because it was always going to 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.160 be their storyline, whether they are a finals pretender, whether 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.360 they just make the top four, make the finals and 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:25.240 just you know they're making up the numbers. It is 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.200 absolutely a confidence boost for them ahead of the clash 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.440 with Penrith, which we'll talk about a bit more later. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.640 But they played good. They played well, I think the 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.920 obviously they went in that game with a lot of pressure. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.480 There was a lot of pressure surrounding Nico Heines and 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.720 how he would respond it after a week of headlines 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.120 and it was just and I had spoken to Cameron 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.080 mckinnison the lead up to that game and he was 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.280 a little bit upset about the way in which Nico 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.360 was targeted from our point of view from the media, 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.040 Like I get it. He's a million dollar man, so 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:56.800 there's always going to be question marks on him. But 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.120 he was defiant in saying that we did not do 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.520 our jobs in week one and then when you look 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.920 at their performance against the Cowboys, everybody on the field 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.600 did their job and that was the biggest difference for me. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.480 They played with confidence. Braidon Trindle was on fire. Forward 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.639 pack played well. Their backfire were massive, so they'll take 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:16.960 out a. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:17.440 Lot of confidence. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.120 I thought he was solid Nico without being special. There 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.960 was Braidon Trindle's game. He was the star of the show. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.519 You know, I didn't do the ratings. I think Peter 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:29.919 dealt him. I think he gave him a nine and 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.920 a half. If he given him a ten, I wouldn't 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.560 have argued he was that good. Braidon Trindle and Nico 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.720 sort of just sat back and played a role. And 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.839 for me, if there be any chance to go any further, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.079 Nicko's go to elevate his game again. I just think 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.799 he's still not the player that won the Delhi and 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.600 medal two years ago. He's not running with the same intent. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.800 He's not owning the game. And admittedly, as I said, 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.480 Braiden was really good, so Nico was happy to take 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.360 a back seat and let him run the show. But 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:02.040 you know, I think it's important that Nico, you know, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.720 now he's got that confidence after a win, that he 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.000 elevates his game again. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.799 I've just got a text message from Russ. He's going 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:10.919 to be a late inter change. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:11.680 He's going to come in. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.000 Yeah, I'm going to text him join us. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.359 I hope it's all set up for him, mightn't work 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.359 the back fiur for them massive again, They've got such 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.480 a good back five And one thing Melbourne did really 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.680 well a week ago was they control of their back five. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.640 They owned them really but the Cowboys weren't able to 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.920 do that. And if you can't beat Kronol if you 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.160 can't control their back five. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.960 Yeah, yeah, And it's the other interesting move I think 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.680 because they paid so well, nobody really spoke about it, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:46.680 but he made a last minute change bringing in Talakai. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.640 I think it was was it Atkinson who didn't end 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.800 up playing. Yeah, so, and that was another sort of 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.160 brave move considering how well at Consent was playing and 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.760 how much energy he could have given them off the bench. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.720 So they did a lot of things in that game. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.840 It's funny you talk about their back five because I 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:08.480 feel like the Krinulla's back five is as important as 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.560 Penris Batlive is to them and how they play their footy. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.080 So it's going to be an interesting matchup this week, 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.240 you know, to see which sort of back five gets 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.080 the upper hand, because that's probably going to go a 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.800 long way to deciding deciding the result. But just back 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.000 on Nico Hines, I tend to agree that he was good. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.000 It was probably the hit out that he needed to have. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:28.760 It was like a six to seven. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:33.719 Ten, right, Yes, considering kind of the the bumps in 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.960 the road he's had, that's a good performance for him. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.240 But I wonder what it means for that Harves combination 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.799 long term, Like can you have a million dollar player 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.080 that is just sort of playing second fiddle to Brandon Trindle? 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.919 Who is how much money's. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.000 On to fifty? 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.280 Well, not much relative to his Tiles partner. Yeah, he's 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.200 a good story Braydon Trindle. Obviously, he had some troubles 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.640 earlier this year and got suspended for a while over that, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.640 and he's that's his that's the best game I've seen 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.560 him play on a big and to produce on a 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.400 big stage like that says a lot about him and 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.360 his potential. I think he's a November one guy too. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.920 Isn't about the last year of his contract on November one? 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:20.080 So given the demand for halves at the moment, really 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.160 good halves, you talk about what he's on, I mean, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.400 he would I would imagine his management would expect to 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.080 double his wages and his next deal, and that puts 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.000 a bit of pressure on Cronulla because there's a limited 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.480 amount of money to go around and they had a 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.599 lot of blokes coming off contract in a year's time 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.120 who all go on the market can talk to other 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.000 clubs on November one. They've obviously put a lot of 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.800 money into Nico. I don't know how much signal I've 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.360 left for all these other guys, So there's going to 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.760 be some some some cap tightness there. So interesting sew 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.359 it unfolds because if Braden keeps playing the way he 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.839 is just so the knockoff Penrith and he stars, his 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.080 price goes through the roof. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:03.200 Well, Joey Johns was saying that he'd been he'd been 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.320 watching them, sorry, watching bradon Trindle for a while now 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.280 and talking about how he's watching him build his game 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:09.880 and get to the point that he is and if 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.599 he does knock off Penrith that he's probably worth nine 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.160 hundred thousand dollars on the open market and I don't 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.440 know whether the Sharks can match that. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.080 Well, we're braidon Trindan and what he's worth in the 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.120 open mark. We've been joined by one of the big 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.000 money performers at the Telegraph, Ross Jackson's and yeah, your 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.400 own camera too. That's a stage team and I got 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:31.400 to share a camera a. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.080 List of demands and there there's one of them. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.200 You've missed our braidon Trindle Chat. We're just talking how 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.640 impressive he was now he was fantastic. Is due for 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:39.440 a big payroll? 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.520 Yeah, Yeah, it's great seeing seeing the young guy realized 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.640 his potential as well. He's had a few issues and 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.760 they've been well documented. I just love the way he 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.360 stepped up the other night. Yeah, and he's been doing 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.680 it for the last few weeks, but to see him 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.920 do that on the big stage was terrific. 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.640 Yeah, we're finished for that Sharks Chat. Let's go the Cowboys. Yeah, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.080 how do you assess their season. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.080 There? It was inconsistent, Like if you were going to 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.280 use one word to describe them, it was inconsistent. They 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.280 were either blowing up, blowing teams off the park, or 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.600 they were sort of not in the flight and conceding 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.320 a lot of points. And when you actually when you 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.880 look at their roster, right like they're they should show 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.160 a bit more sort of grit and fight when it 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.320 comes to finals time, and they are a finals finals roster, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.200 But for whatever reason, like against against the Sharks, and 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.640 yes they had to travel down but didn't end up 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.480 getting the charter flight and the rest of it. They 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.080 just didn't feel like they were in the contest at all. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.080 And that's what you get from them week in week out. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.520 You just don't know what Cowboys side you're going to get. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.560 And I think Todd Payden, who is never shy in 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.440 being scathing, in his assessment of them, and it was 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.880 pretty brutal, like he said this, you know, we're going 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.960 to stay a middle of the road footy team if 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.720 we don't find some defensive resolve. And that's probably the 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.480 biggest weakness in their game at the moment because they 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.120 can score points, they've got a lot of strike but 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.200 defensively it's just not working. And some of the commentary 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.000 around that defense was, you know, a question mark over 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:14.680 their fitness. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:15.720 Are they fit enough? 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.840 But then if you're talking about them not having the 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.920 right amount of fitness at this time of the year, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.760 then that's something that's got to fall back on top 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.960 Payton then, because he's the coach and it's his job 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.119 to make sure and I'm not talking about in terms 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.280 of you know, not having any niggles or injuries. So 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.760 I'm doing about conditioning. I'm talking about being able to 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.640 be a good defensive side. And you look at Canterbury's 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.640 transformation this year. The reason why they are good so 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.559 good defensively is not just because of zero systems. It's 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.880 because they're a really well conditioned foot team. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.920 Do we see them being better than no vel homes? 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.520 Obviously really courageous On the weekend, Vl Holmes played with 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.240 that leg injury, played eight nine minutes with it. I 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.120 thought he was the best player for most of that game. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:58.960 Then he leaves at the end of the year, goes 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.600 to the Dragons. Do you see them being better next year? 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.480 Oh, it's hard to see. It's hard to see that. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.200 But it's there's such a roller coaster team, like in 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.560 game roller coaster. It's not just week to week. It's 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.040 like in a game they are brilliant one minute or 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.320 one half and then just like the other night, just 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.480 just went missing in that first half. There's no intensity, 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.360 no line speed, nothing, And I don't know I feel 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.400 for that. I think they've They've got two great co 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.199 captains there who always turn up. On the other night 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.600 it's just him and did and they're just such great players. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.960 They're so good they always turn up as they could 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.920 not have two better leaders. I don't know what the 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.880 problem is at the Cows, and I know, to answer 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.480 your question, I don't know where they go from here. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.160 I can't see improvement. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.800 Well, they're definitely Kyle Felt also had a pretty good 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:46.440 season this year, right, so they're losing two important strike 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.880 strike weapons in the outside backs. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.120 But Russ makes an. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.920 Interesting point about, you know, making Diden and Codder captains 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.440 this year because they are those effort players. They always 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.360 give one hundred and ten percent. And I have no doubt, yes, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.320 Todd paid looking to the future because they are the 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.520 future leaders of the club, but also setting that tone 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.480 that you know, we want to play with effort, We 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.400 want to you know, focus on the effort areas and 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.720 the grit and the toughness that did and kind of 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.440 play with. But it sometimes it doesn't filter through the 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.640 rest of the playing group, and I think that's what's 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.199 stopping them from being a better footy team. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.320 We shouldn't keep you waiting in the longer ross We're 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.960 going to go on the roosters. Would you be excited? 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.520 I saw you're in a box, a corporate box. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.080 Something I was sitting with with buzz I was Buzzes 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:31.600 plus one. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.720 Were you in a corporate box? Confirm it was a corporate. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.319 It was a box. It was a box. There was 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.839 another demand, yeah, another demand, I get my own camera, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.120 I get a box. Yeah, yeah, I was sitting with 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.360 some influential People's. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:51.199 Got some names to throw some No, okay, well, look mainly, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.320 could couldn't have started any worse for Manly, poor Tolly 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.439 cooler Tron. I don't know what what he was thinking 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.880 taking on big Jarret and you only to kick off, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.480 but he obviously he's got he was gone for the game, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.920 and then Jakie from the next tackle at the head. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:06.960 In your assessment as well, so was that a horror 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.640 start for Manly? What did you make of that start? 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:10.920 You must have been pumped. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.240 I couldn't believe it. I was already pumped. When I 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.400 mean when Jarauar Hargreve's plays, it's it's like it's something 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.560 it's something else, Like it's it's something we know what 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.280 the players, what he does for the players, but what 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.440 he what he does for the fans as well. That 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.240 place was rocking and they were everyone was so fired 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.920 up and that was that was just terrifying that first, 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.400 that first carry, I thought I thought Jake was gone. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.760 When Jake first came out of that head clash with 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.719 with Lindsay Collins, I thought he was finished for the 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.480 night too, But he's a tough man, Jake. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.320 Did you think Jared was about to be sitting in 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:45.720 with his. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.959 First run of the game, Well, the initial yeah, look, 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.920 when somebody drops like that, you never know. It was 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.040 the same as the same thing that happened to Moss 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.080 at the Dragons, you know, uh, until you see the 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:01.040 replays go okay, well he just got his head just yeah, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.800 I think they just want to seems so unlucky. It's 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.040 a little fumble from the kickoff and sort of got 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.920 a caller into a pretty awkward angle. And then yeah, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:12.480 I don't know what he was thinking put in his 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.480 head where he did, but a lesson there for us. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.800 Actually started physically, I thought mainly started the strongest team 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.480 they did five minutes. They played with real indent. There's 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.720 real aggression in the way they attacked the game, but 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.600 they just sort of wilted as the game went on, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.760 right and just kept going. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.880 And I think there was a confidence in the Roosters 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.000 during the week. They figured that the Canny game was 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.319 very taxing and they knew that if they stayed in 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.800 the grind they could have finished. Were confident they'd finish 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.120 over the top of Manley. But the way it turned out, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.559 that interchange got completely rocked, and yeah, it was there 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.240 was no way back for Manley, and they did pretty 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.120 well to be as competitive as they were. I think 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:55.960 that could have got really ugly. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.800 Were you surprised Jack Troy which was about to come back. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.120 When I first thought of thought, I thought he's gone 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.520 for the game. But you know, he seemed pretty good 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.880 when he came back on he seemed pretty lucid. But 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.720 when I first saw it, I thought, he looks he 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:15.439 looks shot to bits. And obviously Manly's doctor, the Manly 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.240 Doctor used to the NR old doctor I think helped 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.560 design the protocols for concussion, so you know he would 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.240 as surely put him through the right tests and done 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.679 the right thing will get mainly out the way first. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.880 I mean, obviously it was again there were a bit 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.320 like the Cowboys for me, they're a bit inconsistent this year, 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.720 like at their best, and obviously Tommy getting injured really 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.480 hurts him because he's the he's the key for them. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.920 But at their best they beat anyone, but at their 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.640 worst they lose to anyone. They've got to spend the 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.160 ob season finding. For me, they've got to find some consistency. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.079 Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, I agree. They're another one that 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.560 have When you look at their team, they have the 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.679 right pieces of the puzzle. And obviously, you know, how 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.960 well they do does sort of depend on how fit 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.280 tom traboy Evitch is and so you wonder if you 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.959 know he hadn't missed so many games, whether they finish 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.320 a little bit higher, because they do look like you know, 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.640 like ready said, they're like almost like a top four 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.440 team when they are playing their best. But you know, Dce, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.760 Tommy Turbot, Luke Brooks had a good season. Hamalo Alkawaitu 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.960 towards the end of the season really found some form. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.920 They've got a big forward pack. You know, I've seeing 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.160 guys like tom in Telou come through Lehi Habawati. They've 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.360 got the makings of a really, really good football team. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.240 But again, it's just one of those things. It's just 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.520 finding consistency and finding ways to win even when Tommy 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.480 Turbo isn't on the field. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.040 Yeah, they are a tough team. It's hard to judge 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.560 them when unless triplet Tom is fit, that's it. That 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.080 changes everything for Manly. And he saw it early in 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:48.760 that game. I think when when Radley went through and 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.320 scored that Troy saw you saw Tom coming across in 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.800 Carbo sort of a bit half hearted, and you know 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.520 that you knew straight away, like that's if that's the 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.480 fit Tom Traboyvich, He's he's standing in the peen Victor 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.920 Radley and the try line. That was an early indication 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:07.560 to me. And I know Tom's very courageous. It was 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.880 very courageous to get through the final series the way 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.200 he did. But yeah, hard to judge Manly when when 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.360 Tom's not one hundred. But you know they've got to 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.200 they've got to find ways to deal with that. And 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.320 he's going to just continue to play busted, I think, 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.720 and they need to need to find ways to be better. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.960 We're reported last week's Seves will get a new deal 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:28.800 in the off season, probably at least a one year 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.520 Extension's got one year to go, so at least to 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.640 one year extension, maybe a two year extension. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.120 You're happy with that? No issues there, No no issues. No, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.160 I think they's got them playing some pretty good footing. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.720 They still have a few issues, I think around I 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.400 think the edges like Lawton and Co like that, you know, 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.200 makeshift guys. I'm sure he'll fix those situations. But no, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.760 they've played some really good foot I think they've had 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:56.040 a good season considering what again, Tom Traboyvitch has been through. Yeah, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.480 you take a strike player like that out of any 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.440 any team, it's it's hard, it's hard. But I think 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:02.800 he's I think he's done a pretty good job. 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.840 What about your roosters. It was a landmark game for 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.480 Teddy is two fiftieth. Yeah, it was probably the best 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:10.240 player in the park or. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.720 Teddy was incredible, incredible for Timmy. You were at the 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.960 press conference during the week last week when Teddy fired up. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:24.000 Yeah, it's funny because after the game, Robbo said, oh, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.840 somewhere during that week, Teddy decided he was going to 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.040 play this way. And the first thing I thought was 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:33.960 that that press conference that we did so for some 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.280 of our listeners that don't necessarily know what goes on 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.640 in these press conferences, sometimes the print journos will talk 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.960 to the player separately to the TV journos. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:42.960 That's what we were doing. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.160 We're having a chat to him, So there weren't any cameras, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.360 but he was being sort of pressed about the rooster's 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:52.200 chances without Sam Walker, without Brandon Smith. At that time, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.280 we didn't know Victor Radley was going to play, and 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.240 then sort of sort of kind of suggesting whether with 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.480 Kiri and we're a hard Graves gone that whether that 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.880 premiership window is closing shut after this year, and Teddy, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.960 who was normally just unfazed by anything, you know, the 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:12.480 consummate professional answers every question, nothing really bothers him, all 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.760 of a sudden sort of bristled at those questions and said, well, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.600 you know, I just honestly, I'm just sick and tired 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.679 of talking about it. It's all you talk about. And 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.160 I remember the journals looking at each other going, oh, 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.840 that's interesting. We don't normally see Tedesco respond in that 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.760 way to what, from our point of view is a 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.119 routine question, right, So yeah, and that was the first 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:38.480 time we saw a sense of frustration. But I think 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.960 about how he played and Robo saying that there was 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.240 a moment during the week where he made that conscious 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.320 decision to play that way. I'm like, I reckon. It 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.240 was that moment where he got his back up over 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.719 the fact that people were questioning the sides capabilities. And 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.600 I guess when you think about it, you're almost questioning 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.399 him as well, because if you're saying, you know, the 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.040 roosters have no hope with Sam walk out without Brandon Smith, 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.320 you're also actually saying that a guy like Teddy who's 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.200 the skipper, can't carry this team on his back. 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.480 Claim that you've inspired this performance sounds like that's what 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.840 it sounds like. Credit. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.680 I don't take the credit for the question. That was 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.639 Scott Bailey who answer the question, actually said Scott. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:14.960 Yeah. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.840 I sent a text to Scott on the weekend saying, so, 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.080 who are you firing up this week? 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:25.199 So I take my own team. But yeah, So he was. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.200 He was brilliant and he had I mean, he has 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.399 had a couple of good games in the last you know, 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.199 a few weeks or so, but he just sort of 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.720 changed his style a little bit, sort of did a 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:40.439 bit more ball running, playmaking, took on cred opportunities, and 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:45.520 it was just you know, almost almost out Sean Keery 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.480 and Sound and Smith. 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.080 I think there was an assumption he'd lost his test jersey. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.240 They're going to name a preliminary test squad tomorrow. He'll 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.360 be in it, but Kaitlyn will be in the kind 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.400 of ponger Dylan Edwards will be in it. I think 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.520 there was an assumption Teddy had lost that jersey. What 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:00.240