Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to Daddy Tell You, our aneral podcast on
Speaker 1: Brent Reed joined by for Team. We could do a
Speaker 1: bit light on.
Speaker 2: Dream the time.
Speaker 3: Pam's busy out with the nerl W finals launch.
Speaker 1: So people, I reckon, people are actually enjoying the last
Speaker 1: day of sun for the rain comes.
Speaker 3: They're just have you been looking at the weather?
Speaker 1: They're claiming finals work, but they're actually probably sunning themselves
Speaker 1: on a beach somewhere.
Speaker 4: I work on a Sunday and I must admit I
Speaker 4: wish I was sunning myself on a beach somewhere.
Speaker 1: I live a nice day, glorious on the northern beaches.
Speaker 1: Now what a weekend of foot you mentioned you're working
Speaker 1: yesterday doing the wash up from the weekend. Obviously, Well
Speaker 1: let's start with the Shafts, because that was a pretty
Speaker 1: momentous win for them. I think gone it was seven
Speaker 1: finals came without a.
Speaker 4: Win, seven without a win so since twenty eighteen and
Speaker 4: four without four since fitz so first. It fits his
Speaker 4: first finals win. So yeah, it was a big game.
Speaker 1: For how significant do we do you think it was?
Speaker 1: Monkey is now off the back of those guys.
Speaker 4: I think absolutely there is an element of the monkey
Speaker 4: being off the back because it was always going to
Speaker 4: be their storyline, whether they are a finals pretender, whether
Speaker 4: they just make the top four, make the finals and
Speaker 4: just you know they're making up the numbers. It is
Speaker 4: absolutely a confidence boost for them ahead of the clash
Speaker 4: with Penrith, which we'll talk about a bit more later.
Speaker 4: But they played good. They played well, I think the
Speaker 4: obviously they went in that game with a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of pressure surrounding Nico Heines and
Speaker 4: how he would respond it after a week of headlines
Speaker 4: and it was just and I had spoken to Cameron
Speaker 4: mckinnison the lead up to that game and he was
Speaker 4: a little bit upset about the way in which Nico
Speaker 4: was targeted from our point of view from the media,
Speaker 4: Like I get it. He's a million dollar man, so
Speaker 4: there's always going to be question marks on him. But
Speaker 4: he was defiant in saying that we did not do
Speaker 4: our jobs in week one and then when you look
Speaker 4: at their performance against the Cowboys, everybody on the field
Speaker 4: did their job and that was the biggest difference for me.
Speaker 4: They played with confidence. Braidon Trindle was on fire. Forward
Speaker 4: pack played well. Their backfire were massive, so they'll take
Speaker 4: out a.
Speaker 3: Lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: I thought he was solid Nico without being special. There
Speaker 1: was Braidon Trindle's game. He was the star of the show.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't do the ratings. I think Peter
Speaker 1: dealt him. I think he gave him a nine and
Speaker 1: a half. If he given him a ten, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have argued he was that good. Braidon Trindle and Nico
Speaker 1: sort of just sat back and played a role. And
Speaker 1: for me, if there be any chance to go any further,
Speaker 1: Nicko's go to elevate his game again. I just think
Speaker 1: he's still not the player that won the Delhi and
Speaker 1: medal two years ago. He's not running with the same intent.
Speaker 1: He's not owning the game. And admittedly, as I said,
Speaker 1: Braiden was really good, so Nico was happy to take
Speaker 1: a back seat and let him run the show. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's important that Nico, you know,
Speaker 1: now he's got that confidence after a win, that he
Speaker 1: elevates his game again.
Speaker 4: I've just got a text message from Russ. He's going
Speaker 4: to be a late inter change.
Speaker 1: He's going to come in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to text him join us.
Speaker 1: I hope it's all set up for him, mightn't work
Speaker 1: the back fiur for them massive again, They've got such
Speaker 1: a good back five And one thing Melbourne did really
Speaker 1: well a week ago was they control of their back five.
Speaker 1: They owned them really but the Cowboys weren't able to
Speaker 1: do that. And if you can't beat Kronol if you
Speaker 1: can't control their back five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And it's the other interesting move I think
Speaker 4: because they paid so well, nobody really spoke about it,
Speaker 4: but he made a last minute change bringing in Talakai.
Speaker 4: I think it was was it Atkinson who didn't end
Speaker 4: up playing. Yeah, so, and that was another sort of
Speaker 4: brave move considering how well at Consent was playing and
Speaker 4: how much energy he could have given them off the bench.
Speaker 4: So they did a lot of things in that game.
Speaker 4: It's funny you talk about their back five because I
Speaker 4: feel like the Krinulla's back five is as important as
Speaker 4: Penris Batlive is to them and how they play their footy.
Speaker 4: So it's going to be an interesting matchup this week,
Speaker 4: you know, to see which sort of back five gets
Speaker 4: the upper hand, because that's probably going to go a
Speaker 4: long way to deciding deciding the result. But just back
Speaker 4: on Nico Hines, I tend to agree that he was good.
Speaker 4: It was probably the hit out that he needed to have.
Speaker 1: It was like a six to seven.
Speaker 4: Ten, right, Yes, considering kind of the the bumps in
Speaker 4: the road he's had, that's a good performance for him.
Speaker 4: But I wonder what it means for that Harves combination
Speaker 4: long term, Like can you have a million dollar player
Speaker 4: that is just sort of playing second fiddle to Brandon Trindle?
Speaker 4: Who is how much money's.
Speaker 3: On to fifty?
Speaker 1: Well, not much relative to his Tiles partner. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a good story Braydon Trindle. Obviously, he had some troubles
Speaker 1: earlier this year and got suspended for a while over that,
Speaker 1: and he's that's his that's the best game I've seen
Speaker 1: him play on a big and to produce on a
Speaker 1: big stage like that says a lot about him and
Speaker 1: his potential. I think he's a November one guy too.
Speaker 1: Isn't about the last year of his contract on November one?
Speaker 1: So given the demand for halves at the moment, really
Speaker 1: good halves, you talk about what he's on, I mean,
Speaker 1: he would I would imagine his management would expect to
Speaker 1: double his wages and his next deal, and that puts
Speaker 1: a bit of pressure on Cronulla because there's a limited
Speaker 1: amount of money to go around and they had a
Speaker 1: lot of blokes coming off contract in a year's time
Speaker 1: who all go on the market can talk to other
Speaker 1: clubs on November one. They've obviously put a lot of
Speaker 1: money into Nico. I don't know how much signal I've
Speaker 1: left for all these other guys, So there's going to
Speaker 1: be some some some cap tightness there. So interesting sew
Speaker 1: it unfolds because if Braden keeps playing the way he
Speaker 1: is just so the knockoff Penrith and he stars, his
Speaker 1: price goes through the roof.
Speaker 4: Well, Joey Johns was saying that he'd been he'd been
Speaker 4: watching them, sorry, watching bradon Trindle for a while now
Speaker 4: and talking about how he's watching him build his game
Speaker 4: and get to the point that he is and if
Speaker 4: he does knock off Penrith that he's probably worth nine
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars on the open market and I don't
Speaker 4: know whether the Sharks can match that.
Speaker 1: Well, we're braidon Trindan and what he's worth in the
Speaker 1: open mark. We've been joined by one of the big
Speaker 1: money performers at the Telegraph, Ross Jackson's and yeah, your
Speaker 1: own camera too. That's a stage team and I got
Speaker 1: to share a camera a.
Speaker 2: List of demands and there there's one of them.
Speaker 1: You've missed our braidon Trindle Chat. We're just talking how
Speaker 1: impressive he was now he was fantastic. Is due for
Speaker 1: a big payroll?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's great seeing seeing the young guy realized
Speaker 2: his potential as well. He's had a few issues and
Speaker 2: they've been well documented. I just love the way he
Speaker 2: stepped up the other night. Yeah, and he's been doing
Speaker 2: it for the last few weeks, but to see him
Speaker 2: do that on the big stage was terrific.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're finished for that Sharks Chat. Let's go the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you assess their season.
Speaker 4: There? It was inconsistent, Like if you were going to
Speaker 4: use one word to describe them, it was inconsistent. They
Speaker 4: were either blowing up, blowing teams off the park, or
Speaker 4: they were sort of not in the flight and conceding
Speaker 4: a lot of points. And when you actually when you
Speaker 4: look at their roster, right like they're they should show
Speaker 4: a bit more sort of grit and fight when it
Speaker 4: comes to finals time, and they are a finals finals roster,
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, like against against the Sharks, and
Speaker 4: yes they had to travel down but didn't end up
Speaker 4: getting the charter flight and the rest of it. They
Speaker 4: just didn't feel like they were in the contest at all.
Speaker 4: And that's what you get from them week in week out.
Speaker 4: You just don't know what Cowboys side you're going to get.
Speaker 4: And I think Todd Payden, who is never shy in
Speaker 4: being scathing, in his assessment of them, and it was
Speaker 4: pretty brutal, like he said this, you know, we're going
Speaker 4: to stay a middle of the road footy team if
Speaker 4: we don't find some defensive resolve. And that's probably the
Speaker 4: biggest weakness in their game at the moment because they
Speaker 4: can score points, they've got a lot of strike but
Speaker 4: defensively it's just not working. And some of the commentary
Speaker 4: around that defense was, you know, a question mark over
Speaker 4: their fitness.
Speaker 3: Are they fit enough?
Speaker 4: But then if you're talking about them not having the
Speaker 4: right amount of fitness at this time of the year,
Speaker 4: then that's something that's got to fall back on top
Speaker 4: Payton then, because he's the coach and it's his job
Speaker 4: to make sure and I'm not talking about in terms
Speaker 4: of you know, not having any niggles or injuries. So
Speaker 4: I'm doing about conditioning. I'm talking about being able to
Speaker 4: be a good defensive side. And you look at Canterbury's
Speaker 4: transformation this year. The reason why they are good so
Speaker 4: good defensively is not just because of zero systems. It's
Speaker 4: because they're a really well conditioned foot team.
Speaker 1: Do we see them being better than no vel homes?
Speaker 1: Obviously really courageous On the weekend, Vl Holmes played with
Speaker 1: that leg injury, played eight nine minutes with it. I
Speaker 1: thought he was the best player for most of that game.
Speaker 1: Then he leaves at the end of the year, goes
Speaker 1: to the Dragons. Do you see them being better next year?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's hard to see. It's hard to see that.
Speaker 2: But it's there's such a roller coaster team, like in
Speaker 2: game roller coaster. It's not just week to week. It's
Speaker 2: like in a game they are brilliant one minute or
Speaker 2: one half and then just like the other night, just
Speaker 2: just went missing in that first half. There's no intensity,
Speaker 2: no line speed, nothing, And I don't know I feel
Speaker 2: for that. I think they've They've got two great co
Speaker 2: captains there who always turn up. On the other night
Speaker 2: it's just him and did and they're just such great players.
Speaker 2: They're so good they always turn up as they could
Speaker 2: not have two better leaders. I don't know what the
Speaker 2: problem is at the Cows, and I know, to answer
Speaker 2: your question, I don't know where they go from here.
Speaker 2: I can't see improvement.
Speaker 4: Well, they're definitely Kyle Felt also had a pretty good
Speaker 4: season this year, right, so they're losing two important strike
Speaker 4: strike weapons in the outside backs.
Speaker 3: But Russ makes an.
Speaker 4: Interesting point about, you know, making Diden and Codder captains
Speaker 4: this year because they are those effort players. They always
Speaker 4: give one hundred and ten percent. And I have no doubt, yes,
Speaker 4: Todd paid looking to the future because they are the
Speaker 4: future leaders of the club, but also setting that tone
Speaker 4: that you know, we want to play with effort, We
Speaker 4: want to you know, focus on the effort areas and
Speaker 4: the grit and the toughness that did and kind of
Speaker 4: play with. But it sometimes it doesn't filter through the
Speaker 4: rest of the playing group, and I think that's what's
Speaker 4: stopping them from being a better footy team.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't keep you waiting in the longer ross We're
Speaker 1: going to go on the roosters. Would you be excited?
Speaker 1: I saw you're in a box, a corporate box.
Speaker 2: Something I was sitting with with buzz I was Buzzes
Speaker 2: plus one.
Speaker 1: Were you in a corporate box? Confirm it was a corporate.
Speaker 2: It was a box. It was a box. There was
Speaker 2: another demand, yeah, another demand, I get my own camera,
Speaker 2: I get a box. Yeah, yeah, I was sitting with
Speaker 2: some influential People's.
Speaker 1: Got some names to throw some No, okay, well, look mainly,
Speaker 1: could couldn't have started any worse for Manly, poor Tolly
Speaker 1: cooler Tron. I don't know what what he was thinking
Speaker 1: taking on big Jarret and you only to kick off,
Speaker 1: but he obviously he's got he was gone for the game,
Speaker 1: and then Jakie from the next tackle at the head.
Speaker 1: In your assessment as well, so was that a horror
Speaker 1: start for Manly? What did you make of that start?
Speaker 1: You must have been pumped.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I was already pumped. When I
Speaker 2: mean when Jarauar Hargreve's plays, it's it's like it's something
Speaker 2: it's something else, Like it's it's something we know what
Speaker 2: the players, what he does for the players, but what
Speaker 2: he what he does for the fans as well. That
Speaker 2: place was rocking and they were everyone was so fired
Speaker 2: up and that was that was just terrifying that first,
Speaker 2: that first carry, I thought I thought Jake was gone.
Speaker 2: When Jake first came out of that head clash with
Speaker 2: with Lindsay Collins, I thought he was finished for the
Speaker 2: night too, But he's a tough man, Jake.
Speaker 3: Did you think Jared was about to be sitting in
Speaker 3: with his.
Speaker 2: First run of the game, Well, the initial yeah, look,
Speaker 2: when somebody drops like that, you never know. It was
Speaker 2: the same as the same thing that happened to Moss
Speaker 2: at the Dragons, you know, uh, until you see the
Speaker 2: replays go okay, well he just got his head just yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they just want to seems so unlucky. It's
Speaker 2: a little fumble from the kickoff and sort of got
Speaker 2: a caller into a pretty awkward angle. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know what he was thinking put in his
Speaker 2: head where he did, but a lesson there for us.
Speaker 1: Actually started physically, I thought mainly started the strongest team
Speaker 1: they did five minutes. They played with real indent. There's
Speaker 1: real aggression in the way they attacked the game, but
Speaker 1: they just sort of wilted as the game went on,
Speaker 1: right and just kept going.
Speaker 2: And I think there was a confidence in the Roosters
Speaker 2: during the week. They figured that the Canny game was
Speaker 2: very taxing and they knew that if they stayed in
Speaker 2: the grind they could have finished. Were confident they'd finish
Speaker 2: over the top of Manley. But the way it turned out,
Speaker 2: that interchange got completely rocked, and yeah, it was there
Speaker 2: was no way back for Manley, and they did pretty
Speaker 2: well to be as competitive as they were. I think
Speaker 2: that could have got really ugly.
Speaker 3: Were you surprised Jack Troy which was about to come back.
Speaker 1: When I first thought of thought, I thought he's gone
Speaker 1: for the game. But you know, he seemed pretty good
Speaker 1: when he came back on he seemed pretty lucid. But
Speaker 1: when I first saw it, I thought, he looks he
Speaker 1: looks shot to bits. And obviously Manly's doctor, the Manly
Speaker 1: Doctor used to the NR old doctor I think helped
Speaker 1: design the protocols for concussion, so you know he would
Speaker 1: as surely put him through the right tests and done
Speaker 1: the right thing will get mainly out the way first.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it was again there were a bit
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys for me, they're a bit inconsistent this year,
Speaker 1: like at their best, and obviously Tommy getting injured really
Speaker 1: hurts him because he's the he's the key for them.
Speaker 1: But at their best they beat anyone, but at their
Speaker 1: worst they lose to anyone. They've got to spend the
Speaker 1: ob season finding. For me, they've got to find some consistency.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, I agree. They're another one that
Speaker 4: have When you look at their team, they have the
Speaker 4: right pieces of the puzzle. And obviously, you know, how
Speaker 4: well they do does sort of depend on how fit
Speaker 4: tom traboy Evitch is and so you wonder if you
Speaker 4: know he hadn't missed so many games, whether they finish
Speaker 4: a little bit higher, because they do look like you know,
Speaker 4: like ready said, they're like almost like a top four
Speaker 4: team when they are playing their best. But you know, Dce,
Speaker 4: Tommy Turbot, Luke Brooks had a good season. Hamalo Alkawaitu
Speaker 4: towards the end of the season really found some form.
Speaker 4: They've got a big forward pack. You know, I've seeing
Speaker 4: guys like tom in Telou come through Lehi Habawati. They've
Speaker 4: got the makings of a really, really good football team.
Speaker 4: But again, it's just one of those things. It's just
Speaker 4: finding consistency and finding ways to win even when Tommy
Speaker 4: Turbo isn't on the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a tough team. It's hard to judge
Speaker 2: them when unless triplet Tom is fit, that's it. That
Speaker 2: changes everything for Manly. And he saw it early in
Speaker 2: that game. I think when when Radley went through and
Speaker 2: scored that Troy saw you saw Tom coming across in
Speaker 2: Carbo sort of a bit half hearted, and you know
Speaker 2: that you knew straight away, like that's if that's the
Speaker 2: fit Tom Traboyvich, He's he's standing in the peen Victor
Speaker 2: Radley and the try line. That was an early indication
Speaker 2: to me. And I know Tom's very courageous. It was
Speaker 2: very courageous to get through the final series the way
Speaker 2: he did. But yeah, hard to judge Manly when when
Speaker 2: Tom's not one hundred. But you know they've got to
Speaker 2: they've got to find ways to deal with that. And
Speaker 2: he's going to just continue to play busted, I think,
Speaker 2: and they need to need to find ways to be better.
Speaker 1: We're reported last week's Seves will get a new deal
Speaker 1: in the off season, probably at least a one year
Speaker 1: Extension's got one year to go, so at least to
Speaker 1: one year extension, maybe a two year extension.
Speaker 2: You're happy with that? No issues there, No no issues. No,
Speaker 2: I think they's got them playing some pretty good footing.
Speaker 2: They still have a few issues, I think around I
Speaker 2: think the edges like Lawton and Co like that, you know,
Speaker 2: makeshift guys. I'm sure he'll fix those situations. But no,
Speaker 2: they've played some really good foot I think they've had
Speaker 2: a good season considering what again, Tom Traboyvitch has been through. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you take a strike player like that out of any
Speaker 2: any team, it's it's hard, it's hard. But I think
Speaker 2: he's I think he's done a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: What about your roosters. It was a landmark game for
Speaker 1: Teddy is two fiftieth. Yeah, it was probably the best
Speaker 1: player in the park or.
Speaker 2: Teddy was incredible, incredible for Timmy. You were at the
Speaker 2: press conference during the week last week when Teddy fired up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because after the game, Robbo said, oh,
Speaker 4: somewhere during that week, Teddy decided he was going to
Speaker 4: play this way. And the first thing I thought was
Speaker 4: that that press conference that we did so for some
Speaker 4: of our listeners that don't necessarily know what goes on
Speaker 4: in these press conferences, sometimes the print journos will talk
Speaker 4: to the player separately to the TV journos.
Speaker 3: That's what we were doing.
Speaker 4: We're having a chat to him, So there weren't any cameras,
Speaker 4: but he was being sort of pressed about the rooster's
Speaker 4: chances without Sam Walker, without Brandon Smith. At that time,
Speaker 4: we didn't know Victor Radley was going to play, and
Speaker 4: then sort of sort of kind of suggesting whether with
Speaker 4: Kiri and we're a hard Graves gone that whether that
Speaker 4: premiership window is closing shut after this year, and Teddy,
Speaker 4: who was normally just unfazed by anything, you know, the
Speaker 4: consummate professional answers every question, nothing really bothers him, all
Speaker 4: of a sudden sort of bristled at those questions and said, well,
Speaker 4: you know, I just honestly, I'm just sick and tired
Speaker 4: of talking about it. It's all you talk about. And
Speaker 4: I remember the journals looking at each other going, oh,
Speaker 4: that's interesting. We don't normally see Tedesco respond in that
Speaker 4: way to what, from our point of view is a
Speaker 4: routine question, right, So yeah, and that was the first
Speaker 4: time we saw a sense of frustration. But I think
Speaker 4: about how he played and Robo saying that there was
Speaker 4: a moment during the week where he made that conscious
Speaker 4: decision to play that way. I'm like, I reckon. It
Speaker 4: was that moment where he got his back up over
Speaker 4: the fact that people were questioning the sides capabilities. And
Speaker 4: I guess when you think about it, you're almost questioning
Speaker 4: him as well, because if you're saying, you know, the
Speaker 4: roosters have no hope with Sam walk out without Brandon Smith,
Speaker 4: you're also actually saying that a guy like Teddy who's
Speaker 4: the skipper, can't carry this team on his back.
Speaker 1: Claim that you've inspired this performance sounds like that's what
Speaker 1: it sounds like. Credit.
Speaker 4: I don't take the credit for the question. That was
Speaker 4: Scott Bailey who answer the question, actually said Scott.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I sent a text to Scott on the weekend saying, so,
Speaker 4: who are you firing up this week?
Speaker 3: So I take my own team. But yeah, So he was.
Speaker 4: He was brilliant and he had I mean, he has
Speaker 4: had a couple of good games in the last you know,
Speaker 4: a few weeks or so, but he just sort of
Speaker 4: changed his style a little bit, sort of did a
Speaker 4: bit more ball running, playmaking, took on cred opportunities, and
Speaker 4: it was just you know, almost almost out Sean Keery
Speaker 4: and Sound and Smith.
Speaker 1: I think there was an assumption he'd lost his test jersey.
Speaker 1: They're going to name a preliminary test squad tomorrow. He'll
Speaker 1: be in it, but Kaitlyn will be in the kind
Speaker 1: of ponger Dylan Edwards will be in it. I think
Speaker 1: there was an assumption Teddy had lost that jersey. What
Speaker 1: do you reckon us?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you think he deserves to be back in the
Speaker 1: reckoning or what?
Speaker 2: Look? I think he's Yeah. I think Meninger's looked at
Speaker 2: that performance and if if he can, if he can
Speaker 2: keep this up now, keep it up against against Melbourne
Speaker 2: on Friday night and then hopefully get to play somebody
Speaker 2: else in the Grand Final. Yeah. Absolutely, I think he showed.
Speaker 2: I think what we saw in that reaction from Teddy
Speaker 2: was that sort of competitive animal that exists usually beneath
Speaker 2: the surface. He's not a guy who talks himself up.
Speaker 2: He's not a you know, he's not a guy who
Speaker 2: makes big statements. He leads by his actions. But that's
Speaker 2: what we saw. I think we saw that Amazon Really
Speaker 2: I think it was I think the roosters would have
Speaker 2: been happy with that response from Teddy to see the
Speaker 2: real Teddy, the one they see on the training paddock,
Speaker 2: competes for everything, and yeah he was. He was brilliant.
Speaker 2: But what you say about the ball playing, that's something
Speaker 2: that Maddie John's had in his previews. He said one
Speaker 2: of the keys was for Teddy to ball play and
Speaker 2: and and push through that and drive goes through that middle,
Speaker 2: that middle channel, which is exactly what he did with
Speaker 2: that first try. He's really dangerous when he plays that role,
Speaker 2: and that's some I don't think the Storm will be
Speaker 2: on guard for that.
Speaker 1: I thought a couple of the other great individual There
Speaker 1: are a few individual performances out of the game that
Speaker 1: were really impressive. Obviously, Victor playing with a fractured sca
Speaker 1: fuctioned scapular, he looked a bit, he looked a bit
Speaker 1: tentative early on, but he makes such a difference that
Speaker 1: footy team. Victor Radley, he's such a tough bugger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as good as he's been on that edge,
Speaker 2: and he was out there protecting Sam Walker for a
Speaker 2: long time. I think you see that he is just
Speaker 2: a world class lock and he makes so much difference
Speaker 2: to that middle. All of a sudden, the middle short
Speaker 2: up you know those openings that were and they were
Speaker 2: there early that mainly did like you're saying earlier, they
Speaker 2: mainly started really well. They stripped the roosters for numbers.
Speaker 2: They had him a little bit of strife very early,
Speaker 2: but I think there is such a better team with
Speaker 2: Victor Radley at Locke. Yeah, and he was a little
Speaker 2: bit tentative but got that line he ran for that
Speaker 2: first try. It was just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I think the other big one for whom was Joey
Speaker 1: Marnu Because it's been a bit heat on Joey, we've
Speaker 1: will have been a bit critical all the way he's
Speaker 1: played this. Yeah, he's obviously going to rugby at the
Speaker 1: end of the year, but he was unblope. I thought
Speaker 1: that's the best kind of scene from Joey Marnoo in months.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he only fits.
Speaker 1: There were a different team when Joey Marney plays well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think he might have only finished the
Speaker 4: game with nine runs or so, but they were Every
Speaker 4: run was a good run. You know, he carried defenders,
Speaker 4: he made meters and you almost have got just how
Speaker 4: big and strong and how powerful like that, that's what
Speaker 4: he built his reputation on being this power center and
Speaker 4: because he'd been sort of off the boil, so to speak,
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, you forgot that what he's
Speaker 4: capable of exactly that. And again, like you know the
Speaker 4: guys that then he's one of the senior guys in
Speaker 4: that team. You know him and Teddy and Victor. They
Speaker 4: needed the roosters, needed them to stand up, and they responded.
Speaker 1: Well, what about Sandra Smith came into the game and
Speaker 1: a bit of pressure. He missed eleven tackles against Penrith
Speaker 1: of the miss won the other night. They didn't they
Speaker 1: didn't really get at him. I didn't think they really test.
Speaker 2: And that was the thing. They couldn't get at him
Speaker 2: because the pack did just aim up unlock against Penrith.
Speaker 2: They muscled up up front and just laid a great
Speaker 2: platform for for Sand And he's a good player. He's
Speaker 2: very quick, you see that. That was probably one thing
Speaker 2: he's got over Sam Walker's his pace. He's just he's
Speaker 2: electrifyingly fast. Off the mark, he spotted a d C.
Speaker 2: It was a bit flat footed and yeah, Night just
Speaker 2: stepped Yeah, but yeah, I think he was the beneficiary
Speaker 2: of of what the what the guys did up front.
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, they just obliterated their meat.
Speaker 1: Also thought, now the elephant in the room, it was
Speaker 1: the rooster's record. We'll start, We'll look ahead now the
Speaker 1: Ters record record against Melbourne. Sorry, one of their last
Speaker 1: eleven games haven't won. Yeah, one of their last eleven
Speaker 1: one of the You look.
Speaker 2: At last year. I was talking to somebody about this
Speaker 2: this morning, that game last year where World Warbrick scored
Speaker 2: that incredible try at the end off the back of
Speaker 2: a repeat set of six that I won't comment on anyway,
Speaker 2: a late late count set of six that I would
Speaker 2: still want somebody to explain what it was for. But
Speaker 2: you look at how decimated they were that night. They
Speaker 2: had I think a junior junior Pawger, Corey Allen, Paul Monmrowsky,
Speaker 2: Jackson Parlor and in the back line they had Jared
Speaker 2: wasn't playing. I think they were and that was that
Speaker 2: came down to one play in Melbourne. They were more
Speaker 2: decimated last year than they than they are this year.
Speaker 2: So I think they'll go there with confidence. I think
Speaker 2: they'll care about the guys that aren't there. I think
Speaker 2: they'll be confident that they can they can do something thoughts.
Speaker 4: I still my prediction is still Melbourne, but I think
Speaker 4: it's going to be a really close game. And I
Speaker 4: think the way they bounced back after sort of being
Speaker 4: thatapped by Penrith the week before give them some confidence
Speaker 4: that they can go down there and they can get
Speaker 4: the job done, because as Russ said, like it was
Speaker 4: just you know, it's not like they were, you know,
Speaker 4: badly beaten.
Speaker 3: Against Melbourne the last time.
Speaker 4: It was just you know that Will warre Brick try
Speaker 4: in the I think it's the last two minutes that
Speaker 4: that was a difference. So I think a lot depends
Speaker 4: on whether Tedesco can replicate his form the forward pack
Speaker 4: can you go with Melbourne, whether Jared and Nelson and
Speaker 4: so for someone who don't kill each other in the
Speaker 4: first five minutes, so you know, it's I think they
Speaker 4: would be confident. My tip is still Melbourne, but I
Speaker 4: don't think it's a foregone conclusion like a lot of
Speaker 4: people think.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll give them more hope. Half the way they
Speaker 1: played the other night, I still think Melbourne beat them.
Speaker 1: I think Melbourne got the potential to really put some
Speaker 1: points on them if they if they get it right early, Melbourne,
Speaker 1: I think Melbourne, we'll try to replicate that Pendeit plan.
Speaker 1: Just go hard early and blow them out of the contest.
Speaker 1: And I reckon as I said Melbourne, let's say and
Speaker 1: the Smith get away with what he got away with you,
Speaker 1: they will go at him, they'll target him, they'll they'll
Speaker 1: try to exploit him. Same with Luke. I think last
Speaker 1: time they played against the Rooster they went with those two.
Speaker 1: You know they're really hamm'd walker and yeah, that' that
Speaker 1: you can see what the storm we're going to do? Right,
Speaker 1: How do how do the roosters when it's rough?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing they know. They know that Bellamy's
Speaker 2: plan is always to attack the halves. He always goes
Speaker 2: really hard at the roosters halves has been very effective
Speaker 2: for them, so they know what's coming. So I think
Speaker 2: I think the key is going to be for those
Speaker 2: middle guys to aim up again, Teddy pushing through the
Speaker 2: middle and just and just and just back, ye, back
Speaker 2: back in your middles. I think that's it. There's going
Speaker 2: to be Yeah, it'll there'll be somebody on the deck
Speaker 2: early in that game. And I just it's just like
Speaker 2: fingers crusted.
Speaker 1: It's probably probably when you look at Melbourne, you look
Speaker 1: at potential weaknesses. I think their middles is that's been
Speaker 1: the era of people have yeah, sort of pointed out
Speaker 1: all year. You know, Josh King Nelson hasn't been his
Speaker 1: best all year. It took a long time to find
Speaker 1: his feet again. Trent Ero has been really good the
Speaker 1: last month. I reckons elevated his gun a little bit.
Speaker 1: But when you look at that that Melbourne team there
Speaker 1: there's Christian Welch has been had some injuries as well.
Speaker 1: That's the and you look at the roosters, that's one
Speaker 1: of the real strengths, right Collins lend you Jared so.
Speaker 2: Play direct, play direct and really test would Nelson work
Speaker 2: him around a little bit and and to see how
Speaker 2: he goes, test him out. But I think for the
Speaker 2: roosters they need to be on guard for Harry Grant.
Speaker 2: He's just he is on fire. He's so good. Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And there's no Victorian team in the a fluthor is there.
Speaker 4: They're all gone storm is that team for MELBOURNI ands
Speaker 4: to Barrick for expecting a full house at Amy Park,
Speaker 4: which should be good, a.
Speaker 1: Little bit exciting, and what about we should have a big,
Speaker 1: crowded a course team as well. Yes, penoth Sharks. Do
Speaker 1: we give the Sharks got any hope? Do you give
Speaker 1: him any hope? Be honest, be.
Speaker 3: Honest if you think like if we keep we keep game.
Speaker 1: The listeners know if you've got to do you give them?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no some hope?
Speaker 4: You know, if you we keep popping back about how
Speaker 4: good Penrith was in that first forty minutes in a
Speaker 4: week one of the finals, Like, if they come out
Speaker 4: with that intensity, with that game plan, which we absolutely
Speaker 4: know they will, there's no reason for them not to,
Speaker 4: then there's a good chance that you know, and Sharks
Speaker 4: have been a little bit inconsistent last couple of weeks themselves.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they were pretty good against the Cowboys. But yeah,
Speaker 4: Penrith are just so good. They're fully fit, they don't
Speaker 4: really have any injury injury concern. Stilan Edwards isn't one
Speaker 4: hundred percent, but he's close to one hundred percent with
Speaker 4: that knee injury that look to hamper him a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago. So yeah, I can't see them beating them,
Speaker 4: but I do sort of feel like they have a
Speaker 4: similar ish kind of game with how they rely on
Speaker 4: their back five to sort of start sets and they're
Speaker 4: sort of rolling through the middle that power game. Do
Speaker 4: they have the killer instinct and iceman cool calm composer
Speaker 4: Nathan Cleary, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We haven't seen that exactly yet.
Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to at least see
Speaker 2: look to answer question there. I don't sorry Sharks fans.
Speaker 2: I was very confident about you guys on a Friday night,
Speaker 2: but not so much this week. But I just want
Speaker 2: to see the Sharks. I want to see early line
Speaker 2: speed and get at Nathan Cleary. I don't think you
Speaker 2: got touched against the Roosters. I just think that's that's unacceptable.
Speaker 2: You've got to get up on him. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: Craig fits Given will be saying, get up and put
Speaker 2: some shots on, don't let him go across field and
Speaker 2: pick up inside runers where somebody's got to own own
Speaker 2: that job, and put him on their deck and and yeah,
Speaker 2: a bit bit of aggression from the Sharks would be
Speaker 2: good to Toby Rudolph's my man for that. He was good.
Speaker 1: I think looked very good. He looked at the better games.
Speaker 2: Back on the drink. I think that giving up the
Speaker 2: drink was the worst thing he did, so he's back
Speaker 2: on the drink, only having a couple of responses drink, responsible, courage,
Speaker 2: a couple of bits. But yeah, I think he's playing
Speaker 2: great footage. I think he should take it upon himself
Speaker 2: to be the guy to lead the way in on
Speaker 2: the aggressive stakes.
Speaker 1: I give them the slimmest of slim hopes. You'd imagine
Speaker 1: a slim hope. That's as slim as it gets. Pen
Speaker 1: are off the game, I'm well off their game. That's
Speaker 1: the only chance they've got. I think they're one of
Speaker 1: the best coach teams in the comp but they're just
Speaker 1: on the talent level of Penrith just out of this
Speaker 1: world and Brandon Trindle. He's going to have to produce
Speaker 1: another ten out of ten and Nicko is going to
Speaker 1: have to elevate and go nine out of ten if
Speaker 1: they have any hope. Yeah, you know, I just don't
Speaker 1: see that happening.
Speaker 2: So I think Peth will go after Trendle, Right, They're
Speaker 2: going to go after him because Nico has been happy
Speaker 2: in that role and in taking a back seat to Braiden.
Speaker 2: I think if they can force Nico into the spotlight
Speaker 2: and annihilate Braiden and make Nico the Man think that's
Speaker 2: going to rattle the shark. So that's why the key
Speaker 2: for Crnalari is be aggressive and go after it early.
Speaker 2: Just just go for it, put some shots on and
Speaker 2: you never know what can happen.
Speaker 1: So storm panthers.
Speaker 3: It looks like a storm panthers.
Speaker 1: Storm panthers, and you're of course going storm pants too.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying roosters panthers down camera.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, now what do you rush? You have? You
Speaker 1: got something you're watching? What are you watching?
Speaker 2: What am I watching watching at the moment? No, actually,
Speaker 2: my daughter is watching The Gilmore Girls. So yeah, the
Speaker 2: old show. Yeah, so she's just getting into it now.
Speaker 2: So she's twelve and she's getting into The Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 2: She's been she's been binging. Have you been watching I've
Speaker 2: been watching it with her. I was a big fan.
Speaker 2: So I'm a parent. I'm put yourself. It's a good show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I remember it.
Speaker 4: That's that sort of was around when I was a teenager.
Speaker 3: That was one of the.
Speaker 4: Shows before before you could stream everything at once, you
Speaker 4: have to wait like every week. So yeah, it's a
Speaker 4: big commitment. Rush, though, isn't there like a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of its.
Speaker 2: Long long Yeah into season two? I think, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've got a long way to go. Yeah, what do
Speaker 2: you got for Team?
Speaker 1: I like the sound of this show. I've got it
Speaker 1: sounds a bit.
Speaker 3: Dodgy, devious raids?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you enjoy it. It is a very lighthearted, fun
Speaker 4: drama comedy about devious raids in River the Hills.
Speaker 3: So it's not a it's not like a but it's fun, saucy.
Speaker 4: So there's like, you know, a whole bunch of murders
Speaker 4: that happened amongst the originally.
Speaker 2: In the maids are doing the killing, well.
Speaker 4: Some of them are doing the killing, some of them
Speaker 4: are doing the investigating, cleaning up around, cleaning.
Speaker 3: Up in high heels. Yeah, I don't think there's any
Speaker 3: real cleaning up going on, but it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: It was actually the first so remember Eva Longoria from
Speaker 4: Separate House, so she produced Stevius Maids and it was
Speaker 4: the first ever primetime show that had an all Latina
Speaker 4: leading cast.
Speaker 3: So it's like a little bit of groundbreaking in that way.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit it's actually about ten years old,
Speaker 4: so it's about four or five seasons ten years old.
Speaker 4: But it's it's if you're looking for something to just
Speaker 4: unwind at the end of the day and just enjoy
Speaker 4: what you're watching, and I think about it too.
Speaker 1: Much, is not really an unwind. So I started watching
Speaker 1: The Monsters on Netflix last night, the Menendez mini series
Speaker 1: or series. It's about the menindaz boys killed their parents
Speaker 1: for their money. It was very good. Actually, I watched
Speaker 1: about three episodes last night. Couldn't turn off.
Speaker 3: It's such an intriguing story.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's already been a couple of documentaries
Speaker 4: and I think I've watched every single one.
Speaker 2: Every time.
Speaker 4: It's just a it's just an interesting and interesting story.
Speaker 1: No, it was, it's it's good. I recommend it. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: i've seen so far, said on three episodes.
Speaker 2: If I can squeeze it in between Gilmore Girls episodes.
Speaker 1: That's a bit of a contrast Gilmore Girls to the
Speaker 1: Monsters in the series. If you recommend not watching that
Speaker 1: with your twelve years exactly. But I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: you can watch with your twelve year old daughter. Watch
Speaker 1: Friday night Rooster Storm and then Saturday night Panther Sharks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll be watching.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the Dahi Telegraph or podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.