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Speaker 1: Apoda Production. Welcome back to another episode about I a

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Speaker 1: Bad Mum podcast. I'm on the next level. You know

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Speaker 1: how you talk about ages and stages. Yes, and I

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Speaker 1: have got a driver, which is holly wonderful. It's got

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Speaker 1: her license, and so off they go to school, and

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Speaker 1: I'm finding that they're actually not as excited as I

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Speaker 1: thought they were. They're a little bit like they're enjoying

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Speaker 1: the freedom. They'll say, give us a list and we'll

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Speaker 1: go to the shop and that kind of stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then I had a moment the other day where Holly

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Speaker 1: was racing around trying to get out of the house

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Speaker 1: for work, and she had a meltdown over something and

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Speaker 1: she turned to me and I just want you to

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Speaker 1: drop me. And I was like, okay, I'll drop you.

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Speaker 1: In that moment, I realized that she's now got all

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Speaker 1: of this independence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she's still a kid, Like I know she's seventeen,

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Speaker 1: but I look at her sometimes and I'm like, it's

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Speaker 1: still a little girl. Yeah, yeah, You've got all of

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Speaker 1: this independence, all this adult stuff that's happening. And she

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Speaker 1: in the car then said I just I just want

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Speaker 1: to do to drop me today, And I was like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Even Amelia said to me, she went, I do love

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Speaker 1: having a car, and I love the fact that we

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Speaker 1: can just go and do our own things. She said,

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Speaker 1: I do miss being in the car with you though.

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Speaker 1: Oh cute. I was like, oh, okay, that's really nice.

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Speaker 1: And then I had a lovely chat with Jay and

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Speaker 1: I was like, this whole car situation is benefiting us

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Speaker 1: the most. Having to do that, he's got to drop

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Speaker 1: so much backups.

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Speaker 2: I don't actually remember ever thinking that she's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I was just waiting for the dependence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we were older though, and I don't

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Speaker 1: mean older in age, I mean older in we grew

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Speaker 1: up a lot quicker, yeah, than our kids do now.

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Speaker 1: And I was having a conversation with someone about this

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Speaker 1: and she said, we're allowing them to be kids longer.

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Speaker 1: So when we look at the type of things we

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Speaker 1: were doing, and I think about how many different buses

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Speaker 1: I was trying to navigate and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Walking to meet someone, you didn't have a mobile phone.

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Speaker 1: You just said meet either at six o'clock and that's

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Speaker 1: where you were that. Yeah, I kind of like that though. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I also think the more that we keep doing things

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Speaker 2: for them, they'll never grow up. So then you're at

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Speaker 2: that double edged sword kind of via where you're like,

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Speaker 2: damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because like if you do, just keep doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I think about these poor moms that have

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Speaker 2: boys and only boys, and I think about the boys

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Speaker 2: that then stay at home longer, have had everything done

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Speaker 2: for them longer, and then I will expect to find

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Speaker 2: a partner that does it all for them. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: look for a wife that's going to be like the

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Speaker 2: I go, you know, I feel for.

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Speaker 1: Them because it's going to be hard.

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Speaker 2: Because I've got a couple of friends who have got

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Speaker 2: just all boys, and one in particular that always sticks out,

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Speaker 2: which she always goes, No, But I need to remember

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Speaker 2: that these boys are going to be husbands one day,

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Speaker 2: and so I need to raise them in order to

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Speaker 2: to the wife just to be you know, fulfillm what

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Speaker 2: I did for them kind of thing. She's already for

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Speaker 2: thinking that, and I go, I'd lie that more more,

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Speaker 1: More, because that's not something I've ever thought about. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: she knows.

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Speaker 2: I want to raise them to be strong men that

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Speaker 2: want to lead, you know, for the right wife.

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Speaker 1: Laiter down the track.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I'm not talking right now, but she said,

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Speaker 2: if I do everything for them and I don't raise

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Speaker 2: good young men, that will be useless for a wife,

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Speaker 2: because I'd just be looking for them to, you know,

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Speaker 2: which majority we know is like twenty five or thirty. Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I've never really thought about it because

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Speaker 1: because you would want to encourage them to help cook,

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Speaker 2: I admire that part especially, and it probably gives me

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Speaker 2: Like I was chatting with someone the other day. It

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Speaker 2: to be independent very early, and like you said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we sort of grew up a bit earlier, like we

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Speaker 2: had more responsibility. Is what I think you're going down

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Speaker 2: the track of because yeah, you know, give or take,

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Speaker 2: we sort of look at you know, I always complained

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Speaker 2: that maybe I didn't think of until I was fifteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so when we say that they're not growing up like

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Speaker 2: they're growing up so we were allowing to be kids longer,

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Speaker 2: we're just actually doing fucking probably way too much for

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Speaker 2: them and doing it for too long. Yeah. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: my girls should be making dinner.

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Speaker 1: I just have to get up on the weekend early

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Speaker 1: in the lawns, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I had the responsibility of one night a week cooking

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Speaker 2: dinner for everyone in the house. Yeah, and that was

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Speaker 2: not with my mum helicoptering behind. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we went through a stage of doing that and

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Speaker 1: then now it doesn't happen. Am I bad mum for

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Speaker 1: not understanding their language? This is a fun little episode

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Speaker 1: because I don't understand gen Z language. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you're watching Big Brother at the moment, No, there's

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Speaker 1: a guy on there that every second word is bro,

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Speaker 1: bro brah. I don't mind bro Like I use it.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind it, but not when you're like if

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Speaker 2: you just turned me and went hey bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, sorry, I'm not your bro. No, no, bra, no,

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Speaker 1: that would be weird, like I would say in a

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Speaker 1: joky way, bro, what are you doing? Like i'd say

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Speaker 1: it to my kids. In my head, I think it's

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Speaker 1: just an automatic thing of a male. Does it make sense?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be And look, shit, maybe this

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Speaker 2: is going to send us in the spiral and I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing the whole day. Then I'm not taking away

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Speaker 2: from anyone. I'm not being But do you understand what

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Speaker 2: she always goes, hey, sis, how are you? And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: even that does not flow off my tongue.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, isn't it? Like the words we use, Like

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Speaker 1: I used to be a hun person. Yeah, I used

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Speaker 1: to hay han like as in hun.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done that for years, but I definitely used to.

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Speaker 1: But now I find it weird when people say that

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Speaker 2: Difference between bro and bra Brah Yeah yeah, brah brah

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Speaker 2: what a bra? I'm wearing one? What's wrong? Like I

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Speaker 2: don't get it? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, it's like b are u h bruh h.

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Speaker 1: It's just really lazy, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I've got a name, It's call me rage.

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Speaker 1: Babe is another one. I have moments use babe. Some

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Speaker 1: people don't use babe.

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Speaker 2: My dad and his wife they call each other babe.

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Speaker 2: And it's sort of like when I'm around because now

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Speaker 2: obviously I'm a forty year old adult, and when I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of gives me the ick because they're older.

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Speaker 1: Because it's your dad. Both like, yeah, I think you

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Speaker 1: just like, I don't worry, babe. Yeah what my husband

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Speaker 1: Jay says, babe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't get the ick from your husband

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Speaker 2: calling your babe.

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Speaker 1: And you call friends and children babe babe. And I

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Speaker 1: do probably more with the kids than I do friends.

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Speaker 1: But then do you call sambabe?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I used to in the honeymoon stage. Been married so

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Speaker 1: long ago, now you're no longer. You're a brosier a bra.

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Speaker 1: Actually I don't.

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Speaker 2: I just go hey, hey, dot dot dot because he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we were in a shop the other day

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Speaker 1: and Amelia wanted to buy something for a concert that

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Speaker 1: she had coming up, and she went, mum, we come

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Speaker 1: with me. I went, absolutely, I'll come with you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not paying, no, like this is something.

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Speaker 2: Giving your heads up paying?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. She was like no, no, no, I just want

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Speaker 1: you to come. And Holly had work, so it was

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Speaker 1: more of a and it was actually nice because then

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Speaker 1: I then took Collie the next day and we did

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Speaker 1: two separate and they actually wanted my opinion, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, this is so crazy. I mean I would

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Speaker 1: give my opinion. They wouldn't really listen anyway, but I

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Speaker 1: think they're way too short.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm getting them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, No, it was exactly that, way too short.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I like them. Okay, well I don't even know

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Speaker 1: why he brought me. And we were in the shop.

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Speaker 1: Initially we were trying to get an outfit for Holly

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Speaker 1: as well, and then we worked out it was just

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Speaker 1: too hard because she's very particular. We were looking at

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Speaker 1: certain things and we were asking the girl like, alread,

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Speaker 1: of those. I said, oh, because she's a twin and

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Speaker 1: they're trying to kind of match slightly, kind of same

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Speaker 1: bit different and she went, oh, yes, slay, and I

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Speaker 1: was like what I thought about it walking around that

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Speaker 1: whole shop. I was like, that word wasn't necessary, Like

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Slay great? Use great? Yeah great?

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Speaker 2: Or like oh yeah great, I can do that for you,

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Speaker 2: or let me help you. Yeah, I absolutely know what

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Speaker 2: you're doing. It's because there's so many words, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, less I find out what it actually means.

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Speaker 1: What does the word slay mean? What's my sory not

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what did it say kill person or animal in

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Speaker 1: a violent way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's meant to be slay as in s l

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Speaker 2: A Y. No, it's definitely not slay as in Santa.

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Speaker 1: Slay s l e I g h No.

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Speaker 2: But everything that you see it on is s l

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Speaker 2: A Y Slay the day.

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Speaker 1: So say slay the day, like to do something exceptionally well,

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Speaker 1: be amazing and confident. Okay, So I've said they're trying

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Speaker 1: to get matching because they're twins. Slay annoyed me. It

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Speaker 1: annoyed me.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of like, I'm acknowledging what you've said, and

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Speaker 2: I'm acknowledging what yeah cool, I just say yeah cool, yeah, amazing, amazing,

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Speaker 2: easy as Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple that are really annoying me at

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Speaker 1: the moment. My kids don't actually use these, but I

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Speaker 1: hear them thrown around a lot. Low key, it's an

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Speaker 1: unnecessary addition to your sentence.

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Speaker 2: Give it to me a sentence.

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Speaker 1: So I'm low key gonna go over the road and

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Speaker 1: get lunch soon.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we'll local. You don't need to understand.

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Speaker 1: But they're low key so hot outside today. Why are

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Speaker 1: you saying that, Yeah, you need to be added into

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Speaker 1: the sentence. It's unnecessary, Like it's low key unnecessary. I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard this yet. Is this weird?

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Speaker 2: I was saying, I'm big brother because my girls are

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Speaker 2: definitely not watching it.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, yeah, low key bro. And then the other

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Speaker 1: one quote unquote what yeah, and I really want to

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Speaker 1: quote unquote eat my lunch.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that they would do this though, like

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Speaker 2: we know no quote unquote quote unquote, yeah, their age

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Speaker 2: group would not be doing this.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's a millennial add on. Yeah quote unquote.

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Speaker 2: Ps, you just fucking said six more were then you

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Speaker 2: need to yeah, you don't need to say low key

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Speaker 2: in front of something.

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Speaker 1: No, it's low key bro quote unquote.

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Speaker 2: Living in North Queensland in my teenage years, sounded like

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Speaker 2: you would ask the question with a question at the end,

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Speaker 2: like everyone would go, I'm confused, so I don't know,

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Speaker 2: are you asking a question with a question or like?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, no, no, it's just like slang.

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Speaker 1: And is it like the use of hay word, but.

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Speaker 2: It's use hey, like hey, it's hot outside, isn't it. Hey?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like I do that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get a coke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's really hot. Hey, yeah, I definitely do do

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Speaker 1: it sometimes. The other one that people use often. I

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Speaker 1: don't know whether this is a certain part of Australia,

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Speaker 1: but it's like, it's really hot outside. But but but

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Speaker 1: what I think it must be North Greasian thing do yeah?

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Speaker 1: But yeah?

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Speaker 2: But but if I was writing it, yes, but I

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Speaker 2: would be waiting.

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Speaker 1: For the rest of the sentence of what you trying

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Speaker 1: to get at? Yeah? But yeah. But and then the

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Speaker 1: other thing, which we all do is the yho, do

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Speaker 1: you want dessert? Yeah? Who is it?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: No? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Actually you know that used to be always the oh no,

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Speaker 2: this might go a bit sideways.

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Speaker 1: But fuck it.

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Speaker 2: I flying back in the day when I was working

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Speaker 2: for the airline, we would fly into certain countries. I

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Speaker 2: would get so confused because in certain countries certain body

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Speaker 2: language which was opposite to ours.

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Speaker 1: So I would be like, would you like a glass

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Speaker 1: of water? And they would be like yeah, and in

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Speaker 1: my head for me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and my culture my language, yes, I would like

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Speaker 2: a glass work and there's.

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Speaker 1: Would you like a glass of water? And they'd go no,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want one, just not did you head it me?

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Speaker 1: What is that a nod of acknowledgement. I've acknowledged the

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Speaker 1: that you have asked me if I want to work?

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Speaker 2: And there was so many times where I'd be on

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Speaker 2: board and you go, oh shit, yeah, okay, yeah, pour

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Speaker 2: it out and they'd go no, push it away, no,

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Speaker 2: and You're like, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, yeah, you said yeah, just take the carp water.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes do you any harm You're in an aircraft, You're.

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Speaker 2: Dehydrated as it is, You're having this conversation in my

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Speaker 2: head with somebody that can't you speak English, and you're like.

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Speaker 1: You said yes, bro, bro, you low key said yes,

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Speaker 1: Brah you low key quote unquote said yes, Brah slave