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Speaker 1: On scors Australia. This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panekey Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight. The Victorian government warned the steak may face

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Speaker 2: rationing of food if drastic action on fuel is not taken.

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Speaker 2: The panel will be here to discuss that and the

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Speaker 2: day's top headlines. More details about a horrific five hour

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Speaker 2: bullying ordeal at a Sydney high school. The Telegraphs Suzanne

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Speaker 2: Giuliani will give us the latest on that story. Kosher

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Speaker 2: Gator will have the latest from the US, including reports

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Speaker 2: that Iran's Supreme leader is gay. Only London joins the

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Speaker 2: program to dissect the latest antics of the celebrity class

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Speaker 2: of the Oscars. You won't want to miss that, and

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Speaker 2: Left is Losing It is a celebrity extravaganza tonight featuring

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Speaker 2: the likes of Jane Fonda, who I'll henceforth dub Jane Biden.

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Speaker 3: You know that Trump wants to hurt I mean, I

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Speaker 3: slept with the guy that created it.

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Speaker 4: You did.

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Speaker 2: We have a personal stake in it. But let's start

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Speaker 2: with some interesting polling from the nine papers showing Australians

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Speaker 2: are putting the blame on Anthony Albinisi and his government

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Speaker 2: for the level of inflation in this country. A new

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Speaker 2: Resolve political monitor pole for the Sydney Morning Herald shows

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Speaker 2: forty percent of voters blame the government for rising living costs,

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Speaker 2: while only seventeen percent blame it on global factors outside

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Speaker 2: of Australia's control. It follows the RBA's decision to lift

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Speaker 2: interest rates for mortgage holders earlier today. Only six percent

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Speaker 2: in that reserve pole blame the RBA for rising living

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Speaker 2: cost Fifty five percent of respondents said that the cost

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Speaker 2: of groceries was a key problem, and the same number

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Speaker 2: also said they had cut spending on non essentials like

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Speaker 2: clothes or a phone. Economists have worn that high interest

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Speaker 2: rates on top of the war's economic fallout, coupled with

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Speaker 2: spending cuts in the main federal budget, could result in

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Speaker 2: a steep slow down in growth and even plunge the

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Speaker 2: country into recession. Joining me now is News Corps senior

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Speaker 2: writer Patrick Carline and the IPA's research fellow Colleen Harken. Patrick,

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Not too much good news there

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Speaker 2: for the country, and voters seem to understand economics better

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Speaker 2: than the Treasurer. They seem to understand that if you

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Speaker 2: go on this mad spending spree, it's going to be inflationary.

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Speaker 5: And look, Australians go to the supermarkets and they're paying

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Speaker 5: so much more for things and they were six months

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Speaker 5: twelve months ago, and they're having to make choices, I

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Speaker 5: like nice red wine on buying cheaper red wine. That's

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Speaker 5: just a very trivial example. But everyone is having sacrifice.

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Speaker 5: It's a big downplay it. But interest rates are going up,

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Speaker 5: They're probably going to continue to go up. The war

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Speaker 5: is going to have a massive effect. But I think

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Speaker 5: pleased to say that the Australians are savvy enough recognized

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Speaker 5: that things weren't real good when the war started.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because things have been mismanaged badly.

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Speaker 2: That the government is going to be keen to blame

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Speaker 2: this conflict in the Middle East. But as Patrick said,

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Speaker 2: all the indicators were pretty poor beforehand, and we have

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Speaker 2: seen in recent years a steep fall in living standards

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Speaker 2: for Australians and we have had a per capita recession

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Speaker 2: already in recent years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, I mean Australian is not mugs.

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Speaker 7: They know that.

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Speaker 6: For the last couple of years, they've felt that they've

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Speaker 6: experienced increasing the cost of living with their energy bills

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Speaker 6: because of an ideologically driven energy policy. We've seen pressure

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Speaker 6: on housing because of mass immigration, and the stats have

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Speaker 6: come out today that January was the highest net overseas

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Speaker 2: So it continued people were slowing that down. Well, we're

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Speaker 2: not assured leading up to the election that they were

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Speaker 2: hailing the numbers coming in. It seems that was just

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Speaker 2: one of those non core promises we hear so much about.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about petrol prices because we've got farmers warning

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Speaker 2: that people may be forced to choose between fuel and

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Speaker 2: their cars where possible. Victorian Prematures and to Allen held

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Speaker 2: a crisis meeting with relevant ministers yesterday to lay out

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Speaker 2: the state's strategy on dwindling fuel supply. Victorian Farmers Federation

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Speaker 2: President Brett Osking said that the entire state may face

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Speaker 2: rationing of food if drastic action on fuel is not

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Speaker 2: to choke global fuel networks. He said it's just one

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Speaker 2: in five Victorian car commuters shifted to public transport. The

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Speaker 2: fuel saved would be enough conservatively to plant half of

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Speaker 2: our entire nation's wheat, barley, canola and lentil crop. Patrick,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm hearing this. I can't believe I'm

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Speaker 2: reading this. The entire state may face ration of food.

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Speaker 2: It seems inconceivable.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think there's some basis of truth there, absolutely

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Speaker 5: in the sense that farmers don't get to pick and

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Speaker 5: choose when they pick their crops. They're reliant on the

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Speaker 5: I think the big problem with this in Melbourne is

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Speaker 5: and both governments over decades are guilty of this. We've

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Speaker 5: had lots of new housing on the outskirts, but we

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Speaker 5: haven't had the public transport that actually allows people to

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Speaker 4: They have to drive, they don't have a choice.

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Speaker 2: But they should be able to drive. You should not

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Speaker 2: be having to choose the to fuel for your car

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Speaker 2: or food for this, I mean, this seems just completely

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Speaker 2: self inflicted. We can blame the conflict in the Middle East,

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Speaker 2: but this is a country that used to be close

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Speaker 2: and it's madness. We are sitting on so much gas, oil, uranium,

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Speaker 2: our own oil. We have become dependent on other nations.

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Speaker 6: We've only got two refineries and we've paid a regulatory

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Speaker 6: surcharge for a very long time, and again because of

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Speaker 6: an ideology driven process. It's interesting to note that they've

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Speaker 6: released on hundred million liters of extra fuel just by

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Speaker 6: accepting the lower grade of fuel that other countries use

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Speaker 6: all the time. We could have that in the system

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Speaker 6: every day and it would have an impact also on

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Speaker 6: the price that we pay.

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Speaker 2: Well, the price we pay is heavily impacted by taxes. Patrick,

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Speaker 2: So we've already got that happening. But all the self

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Speaker 2: harm that's happened in the energy sector in this country.

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Speaker 2: We should have the cheapest energy anywhere in the world,

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Speaker 2: with the natural resources we're blessed with, and we've got

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Speaker 2: some of the most expensive and now we're talking about

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Speaker 4: What's amazing, isn't it? Isn't it? I mean, you look

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Speaker 5: The price is a skyrocketed because of the war, and

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Speaker 5: I think it's gone up to a dollar forty five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which for them is a shocking.

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Speaker 5: But we have mishandled this for a long time. We

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Speaker 4: Energy, and we've given that up.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, you look at the ideology that drives

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Speaker 5: we can export gas, but we're not allowed to try

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Speaker 5: and find new gas reserves.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: Victoria in fact changed its state constitution to limit gas explorations.

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Speaker 2: So that's how smart we are over here and talking

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Speaker 2: about Victorious. Taxpayers will foot a one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five million dollar bill after the Victorian government settled a

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Speaker 2: class action brought by thousands of businesses which were forcibly

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Speaker 2: shut down during the COVID era. About sixteen thousand businesses

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Speaker 2: registered for the class action, but they yet to be

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Speaker 2: assessed for eligibility. They were claiming costs for the economic

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Speaker 2: damage caused by failures in the state's hotel quarantine program. Colin.

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Speaker 2: The payout will be one of the largest class actions

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Speaker 2: in Victorious history. You've got the taxpayer picking up the

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Speaker 2: making because they didn't need to shut down.

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Speaker 6: They didn't need to happen. I mean, I would forgive anybody.

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Speaker 6: For the first lockdown, we didn't really quite know what

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Speaker 2: I won't even figive it. For the first one, we

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Speaker 2: knew enough, we knew enough. But that's we had six lockdowns,

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Speaker 2: So you'd think by the third one they would have

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Speaker 2: figured it out.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 6: And so here we've got a scenario. We're sixteen thousand

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Speaker 6: buses and there were thousands of other businesses that didn't survive.

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Speaker 6: These are people who were claiming damages effectively. Look, I'm

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Speaker 6: sure this is a settlement that's been reached because the

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Speaker 6: government could not afford to have some people on the

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Speaker 6: stand like Sutton and Daniel Andrews, and for internal communications

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Speaker 6: to become public knowledge. I mean, that would be incredibly

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Speaker 6: damning because we all know now what most of us

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Speaker 6: knew then. It was entirely unnecessary, it.

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Speaker 2: Was and they were well, the policies were just so

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Speaker 2: illogical and yet hugely popular because I remember writing about

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Speaker 2: it every single day, and I was in the twenty

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Speaker 2: to thirty percent at that point. The most of the

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Speaker 2: state was just loving every single crazy measure, which still

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Speaker 2: has me a little bit shook up about this state.

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Speaker 2: Now Grace's tame, we have to talk about her. She's

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Speaker 2: made some terrible claims on ABC Radio about Israeli women.

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Speaker 2: Not she claims they weren't really raped or sexually abused

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Speaker 2: by her mass during the October seven terror attacks. Grace

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Speaker 8: Timney's texted in saying can you please ask Grace why

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Speaker 8: she's selective in her outrage? She says, I've never heard

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Speaker 8: her condemn or speak out on behalf of the Israeli

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Speaker 8: women who were raped and killed by her mass on

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Speaker 8: October seven. Have you spoken about that? Have you expressed

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to.

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Speaker 9: Sink to the level of entertaining any kind of propaganda, Hamish.

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Speaker 8: What's the proper included in that question?

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Speaker 2: Those things have been debunked, Patrick, the host there, Hamish

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Speaker 2: MacDonald did try to gently rebuke her and set her

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Speaker 4: Look, she's been so political and in recent times.

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Speaker 5: She was on stage a few weeks ago talking about

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Speaker 5: globalizing the INTERFATA, and you sort of got a wonder

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Speaker 5: this extremism does it come at the cost of her advocacy,

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Speaker 5: which was a big thing. That's why she's Australian of

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Speaker 5: the Year. She wasn't there for her political views, and

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Speaker 5: you sort of got a wonder. It's sad and it's unnecessary,

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Speaker 5: and you sort of think, why isn't somebody sort of

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Speaker 5: steering her away from these sort of controversial issues. Because

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Speaker 5: she's denying the sexual assault of hundreds of women, the

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Speaker 5: sound of it, that is recognized internationally as being a fact.

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Speaker 4: Why is she actually picking this fight?

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Speaker 2: Colleen, I'd argue none of this is surprising. She was

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Speaker 2: always an activist. Some of that activism was positive, but

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Speaker 2: she was always an activist. Remember that entire scene with

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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison at the lodge and that has just been

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Speaker 2: repeated incidents, and perhaps it would be best not to

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look, she certainly has tarnished the title of Australian of

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Speaker 6: the Year because that position is put on a pedestal

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Speaker 6: for lots of reasons, and she's certainly not living up

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Speaker 6: to the standard that people expect of that title. I

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Speaker 6: think the really objectionable thing here is that she has

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Speaker 6: made her name on the process of believing the victim,

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Speaker 6: and yet here she has done everything the opposite of that,

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Speaker 6: and it is, you know, it's incredibly objectionable that somebody

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Speaker 6: can champion for so many years that only some people

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Speaker 6: apparently need to be believed, but believed now, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's very problematic from her consistency point of view, from

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Speaker 2: editor Suzanne Juliani. Suzanne, You've been following this story very closely.

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Speaker 2: It is horrific. I've watched the video. It is absolutely sickening,

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Speaker 2: What more can you tell me about what's happened so far?

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Speaker 13: Thanks Reta. It is such a distressing case of bullying,

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Speaker 2: The parents of the alleged victim are extremely unhappy with

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Speaker 13: Look, it's understood that they are going to be expelling

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Speaker 2: It's you send your kids to school and expect them

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Speaker 2: But she appealed the officer's decision and zan the tribunal

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Speaker 13: Well, last year here in New South Wales, the right

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Speaker 2: It seems strange that it's considered in the community or

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Speaker 13: I completely agree. And this is what concerns me is

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Speaker 7: Basically go unchecked.

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Speaker 13: And I think that even if a complaint is made

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Speaker 2: Susan and Julianna, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 2: Still to Karma, Lefty is Losing ed plas the latest

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Speaker 2: read of Hannah his show and it's time for Lefties

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Speaker 2: Losing it. And we touched on the oscars and mindless

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Speaker 14: As you know, there are some countries whose leaders don't

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Speaker 14: Let's just leave it at North Korea and CBS.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yes, it is the painfully unfunny Jimmy Kimmel, again

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Speaker 2: pretending he's a victim like the downtrodden folk of North Korea.

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Speaker 2: He's still carying on about being censored in Trump's America,

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Speaker 2: a week because he lied deliberately and shamelessly lied about

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Speaker 2: they had nothing to do with free speech and everything

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Speaker 2: on the eternally wrong about everything, Jane Fonda and see

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Speaker 3: You know, that's why hag Seth said that the Secretary

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Speaker 2: Why is she glitching like that? Seriously? Does she thinks

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Speaker 2: Let's see if the rest of this rant is a

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Speaker 5: And the days of mister Turner creating CNN to be

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Speaker 3: Trusted it did not take positions. It reported the news

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Speaker 3: and to see what's happening, and so we have to stop. No,

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Speaker 3: I did have many conversations with Ted Sarandols about it,

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Speaker 2: Forget about Hanoy Jane I hereby dub her Jane Biden. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she's got the bidens about her. Now, get ready to

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Speaker 15: You know, right now we're looking at a real attacked

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Speaker 2: With no way to get to even the DMV.

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Speaker 15: We're seeing people not allowed to go to the bathroom

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Speaker 4: I'm free by the state.

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Speaker 2: Saying no to the war against the Iranian regime just

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Speaker 2: International Feature Film. One of the directors nominated in that

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Speaker 2: category this year was Iranian filmmaker Jafar Panahee. No relation.

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Speaker 2: Now Panighee is facing imprisonment and worse if he returns

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Speaker 2: to Iran. He was luckily out of the country late

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Speaker 2: last year when he was sentenced to prison for what

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Speaker 2: Iranian government called propaganda activities against the regime. But you've

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Speaker 2: got Javier calling for an end to the war against

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Speaker 2: that regime. It just shows a breathtaking level of ignorance.

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Speaker 2: And if you think I'm being too harsh and he

448
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Speaker 2: was just making a general statement against war in all

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Speaker 2: regions across the world, then listen to this. He was

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Speaker 2: talking about Iran.

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Speaker 1: With another illegal war created by Trump, Banatania with another

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Speaker 1: like which is like to defeat the regime. But they

453
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Speaker 1: are radical lighting the regime by their horrific actions. So

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Speaker 1: that's not the reason.

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Speaker 2: Trump is radicalizing the Uranian regime. Is a double line,

456
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Speaker 2: because I don't see too many other options at this point.

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Speaker 2: And wasn't it interesting that Javier, along with the rest

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Speaker 2: of the Hollywood elite, said nothing about the plight of

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Speaker 2: the Iranian people, tens of thousands of whom were just

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Speaker 2: slaughtered this year by the Iranian regime. We didn't hear

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Speaker 2: much about that on the night, did we. We did

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Speaker 2: hear from one piece actress Sharithra Shandran, who seems to

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Speaker 2: have missed the news that the war in Gaza is

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Speaker 2: actually over and that a Ceaspire has been in place

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Speaker 2: now for months.

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Speaker 13: It's an artist for Ceespire pen and what we are

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Speaker 13: demanding as ac spire in Gaza.

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Speaker 7: And I think that I am so blessed.

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Speaker 13: To have a platform and this is the least I

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Speaker 13: can do to use it. And like sometimes the new

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Speaker 13: cycle is so fast and people move on.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, the new cycle does move us.

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Speaker 7: Love.

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Speaker 2: But there's been a seaspir in Gaza since October ten,

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Speaker 2: that's more than five months ago. Do keep up. The

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Speaker 2: sad reality is that actors celebrities in general are far

477
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Speaker 2: dumber than your lowest expectations. But that thickness often comes

478
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Speaker 2: with enormous amount of ego. It's a dangerous mix.

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Speaker 16: When we act complicit when a government murders people on

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Speaker 16: the streets of our major cities, when we don't say anything,

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Speaker 16: when oligarchs take over the media and control how we

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Speaker 16: could produce it and consume it.

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Speaker 2: Now, if these actors cared even a little about free

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Speaker 2: speech and artistic integrity, they would say something about the

485
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Speaker 2: real mccafeism that exists in Hollywood, where if you admit

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Speaker 2: that you're anything other than hard left, you're pretty much

487
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Speaker 2: blacklisted and often driven completely out of the industry. But

488
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Speaker 2: the Hollywood hypocrites are all on board with that. And

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Speaker 2: I'll be discussing the celebrity classes antiques later in the

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Speaker 2: hour with Ollie London. You don't want to miss that.

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Speaker 2: But let's bring in Sky News contributor Kosher Gata now.

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Speaker 2: And Kosher, let's start with this incredible story suggesting Iran's

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Speaker 2: Supreme leader is gay. The New York Post is reporting

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Speaker 2: US intelligence indicates Muchabat Khomeni maybe gay, and that his father,

495
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Speaker 2: the late Iotola Ali Khomeni, feared his suitability to rule

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Speaker 2: the Islamic Republic for that reason. Kosher. The Post also

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Speaker 2: reports President Trump couldn't contain his surprise and laughed out

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Speaker 2: loud when he was briefed on the Intel.

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Speaker 7: Didn't see that one coming. I have to say, do.

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Speaker 2: You think this is manufactured or is this real? Because

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Speaker 2: this is a fantastic way just to undermine the new

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Speaker 2: Supreme Leader and also embarrass him, embarrass the entire hierarchy there.

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Speaker 7: It's almost too perfect. And I was just going to say,

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Speaker 7: like Brenda fog of War, the Intel community, all of them,

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Speaker 7: including the US, this is not exactly a trustworthy in general.

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Speaker 7: You know, we know what we've lived through, the Russian

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Speaker 7: ED and all the rest of it, and they have

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Speaker 7: an incentive to manufacture it. Certainly possible there are some

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Speaker 7: details in there we just don't know at the stage.

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Speaker 7: It's only being picked up by the Post, some more

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Speaker 7: tabloid publications like the Sun, and there hasn't been any

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Speaker 7: independent verification as of yet.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I can picture President Trump laughing out

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Speaker 2: loud being briefed about that is very because it's.

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Speaker 7: So dark and paradoxical, or maybe ironic is the better

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Speaker 7: word to.

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Speaker 2: Because Iran is a country that absolutely homosexuality is criminalized.

518
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Speaker 2: The sentences and the punishments are very harsh, and in fact,

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Speaker 2: they sometimes force transgender surgeries on men who are gay,

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Speaker 2: because they're all very happy for you to go and

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Speaker 2: get surgery and pretend you're a woman. But if you

522
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Speaker 2: just want to be a gay man, living your life,

523
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Speaker 2: choosing who you to love, that's not okay. If it's true.

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Speaker 7: He probably laughed because it was so ironic, but also

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Speaker 7: would change the equation a little bit, because it's a

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Speaker 7: whole other attack vector if actually it's truth to it,

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Speaker 7: and if there's photographic evidence or some other evidence, and

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Speaker 7: blackmail potential all the rest of it. But at this

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Speaker 7: point I think we have to take you with the

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Speaker 7: big green of salt, because we don't know if it's real.

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Speaker 2: Now we know, President Trump has asked the Allies to

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Speaker 2: join an effort to ensure safe passage through the Strait

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Speaker 2: of her Moves, and he had this assessment of France

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Speaker 2: and it's president. Have you been speaking with the French

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Speaker 2: president Macon about the coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormosia?

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Speaker 5: I have to well, he's been on a scale of

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Speaker 5: zero to ten, I'd say he's been an eight.

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Speaker 4: Not perfect, but it's friends, are you quick to expect perfect?

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Speaker 2: Macrown should probably be happy with eight out of ten.

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Speaker 2: It's probably as well as he is going to do.

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Speaker 2: In Trump's eyes, how do you see the international effort

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Speaker 2: here to minimize the fallout of this conflict?

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Speaker 7: Reminded everyone he used to for Haidi Klum, who used

544
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Speaker 7: to be as now and nine they should be happier.

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Speaker 7: Maybe not. The recruitment is tepid at best. He plucked

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Speaker 7: Macron out there and seemed to suggest that France is

547
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Speaker 7: maybe a little bit more bullish on their willingness to help.

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Speaker 7: Don't know commitments have officially been made. The rest of

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Speaker 7: the NATO allies either have given hard rejections Germany, Italy, Spain,

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Speaker 7: or sort of cagey tepid ones like curiost Armor of

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Speaker 7: the UK. He's also trying to build a broader coalition

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Speaker 7: in China, who is one of the biggest recipients of

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Speaker 7: oil shipments that go through that lane, South Korea, et cetera.

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Speaker 7: And they're all being noncommittal. Their argument is you started this,

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Speaker 7: so why are you asking us basically to come in,

556
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Speaker 7: is their side of the equation. It shows that this

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Speaker 7: does remain unpopular in a lot of places. I think

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Speaker 7: there's protests in South Korea, so they're managing the domestic

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Speaker 7: fallout as is Trump as well against it. And then

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Speaker 7: the flip side though is it's also certainly in the

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Speaker 7: case of NATO, it's highlighting this fundamental issue of if

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Speaker 7: you outsource national security, which is the most vital thing

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Speaker 7: that a government arguably should be providing for its citizens,

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Speaker 7: to another country, we'll wind up in this situation where

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Speaker 7: maybe your interests have diverged, maybe those countries don't want

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Speaker 7: to engage in military action. They're under the umbrella of

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Speaker 7: the US. US tells them they have to do it.

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Speaker 7: If they don't do it, Trump is signaling some sort

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Speaker 7: of fallout from a NATO perspective. So far, it's it's

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Speaker 7: words and rhetoric. But this is getting a little bit dicey.

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Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned that domestic fallout, and certainly the war

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Speaker 2: is not grateful President Trump. Domestically, the midterms are coming up,

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Speaker 2: and he was asked earlier today whether the war could

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Speaker 2: be wrapped up this week.

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Speaker 16: If Iran, as I said, totally obliterated, got the missiles,

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Speaker 16: got the first two rounds of leadership, air force gone,

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Speaker 16: maybe gone.

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Speaker 14: Can we wrap this war up this week?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure? Okay, will we I don't think so, but

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Speaker 4: it'll be sure.

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Speaker 3: We'll be alone, and we're gonna have a much safer

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Speaker 3: world when it's wrapped up.

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Speaker 4: It'll be wrapped up soon. We're gonna have a much

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Speaker 4: safer world.

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Speaker 2: Kosher. Do we need to see Reiji change Ran for

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Speaker 2: this US action to be considered a success.

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Speaker 7: I think many would say hopefully not, because that has

588
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Speaker 7: been one of the three central pillars of the populist movement,

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Speaker 7: and Trump that we're not in the interest of changing regimes.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't mean we don't recognize there are many awful,

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Speaker 7: evil regimes around the world. That's not what we want

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Speaker 7: to do. Can you change regime just from air power?

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Speaker 7: If not, are we leading into the slippery slope of

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Speaker 7: boots on the ground and quagmire and all of that.

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Speaker 7: And it is he is paying a big price. It

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Speaker 7: remains very divisive this issue. Democrats are completely against it.

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Speaker 7: The Independence are seventy percent against it.

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Speaker 2: That's the big thing.

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Speaker 7: That's a big thing given the timing.

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Speaker 2: It's so cool as the guess prices and the guess

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Speaker 2: press felt by everyone.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely around the world, even among Republicans. The latest polling

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Speaker 7: shows twenty percent are against it, which is not great

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Speaker 7: when you're this close to an election. You would want

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Speaker 7: ninety percent support, which he does have for other issues.

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Speaker 7: And the eighty percent that do support it, they support him,

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Speaker 7: they support they want the success coming out of it.

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Speaker 7: I think the answer to your question is in the question,

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Speaker 7: we don't know what success looks like. Was never properly defined.

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Speaker 7: You know what the objectives are, but they're unclear. They're

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Speaker 7: unhappy with the fact that the case was not made

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Speaker 7: very clearly. People don't know. Are we after regime change?

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Speaker 7: Are we after just denuclearizing them? Are we after taking

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Speaker 7: away en Richmond capability, which is one step before nuclearization.

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Speaker 7: Are we doing it for humanitarian reasons? Are we doing

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Speaker 7: it for oil? So when the polls start to pick

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Speaker 7: and choose, you know exactly what the real reason for

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Speaker 7: it was. That's where I think you see support fraying.

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Speaker 7: And the longer this continues, he's going to keep paying

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Speaker 7: a political price. Hence the question if you can wrap

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Speaker 7: it up quickly, take an off ramp, now you can

622
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Speaker 7: claim victory on the things that did happen at all

623
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Speaker 7: has gone, most of the leadership has gone and get

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Speaker 7: back to domestic issues.

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Speaker 2: And they're already in campaign mode over there, so they

626
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Speaker 2: really do need to have this wrapped up nicely and

627
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Speaker 2: to focus on domestic issues where he can show his

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00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: record with the border, with the economy and all sorts

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Speaker 2: of other issues. But staying on Iran, the captain of

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Speaker 2: Iran's women's soccer team is the latest to withdraw her

631
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Speaker 2: bit for asylum in Australia Kosha. This comes as fears

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Speaker 2: grow that the players families are in danger if that

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Speaker 2: don't return home. Shiva Amani, and exiled Iranian player former

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Speaker 2: soccer player, has said the players are opting to go

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Speaker 2: home because of intense and systematic pressure on the players'

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Speaker 2: families from Iran's football federation. She wrote on x Several

637
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Speaker 2: of the players decided to go back because the threats

638
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Speaker 2: against their families became unbearable and the intimidation was relentless.

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Speaker 2: That's the point here, isn't it. Why would you seek

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Speaker 2: asylum one minute and be going home the next And

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Speaker 2: we know how that regime operates, and I've got to say,

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Speaker 2: I really do fear for the safety of these women

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Speaker 2: once they get back to Iran.

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Speaker 7: Right, It's not like everything will be magically, you know,

645
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Speaker 7: the tin of blind eye to all this that happened.

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Speaker 7: It is a reminder of how tyrannical this regime is.

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Speaker 7: We know it, you know it better than most, but

648
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Speaker 7: people do forget that. And I think these stories are

649
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Speaker 7: a reminder of that. And you would think that the

650
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Speaker 7: problem ends with getting asylum, and there was political horsemenu

651
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Speaker 7: ring that happened around that between Trump and Albinesi and

652
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Speaker 7: we all saw that. But that isn't the end because

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Speaker 7: even if they get asylum as we're seeing their families

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Speaker 7: are being threatened, and it just as a reminder of

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Speaker 7: who we're dealing with. And as you say, even if

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Speaker 7: they go back, I think people will continue to stay

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Speaker 7: on the story and we sadly won't be surprised if

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Speaker 7: there's more dark stuff that happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this is a regime that walked into

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Speaker 2: hospitals and shot people recovering from the protest and killed

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Speaker 2: them in the hospital beds. I mean, this is evil personified.

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Speaker 2: But you're right about the domestic pressures on Trump when

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Speaker 2: it comes to this conflict. How is he going to

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Speaker 2: handle an issue like gas prices, because again that was

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Speaker 2: something it was spooking that prices were coming down under

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Speaker 2: his watch and now they're skyrocketing. How does he handle

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Speaker 2: that leading up to the midterms if this conflict continues,

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Speaker 2: or if gas prices stay high.

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Speaker 7: It's a real problem. If the prices stay where they are.

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Speaker 7: What he keeps saying, I think he just said it

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Speaker 7: the other day is we're going to wrap this war

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Speaker 7: up soon, even though he won't put a time on it,

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Speaker 7: and we can understand why, and then the prices are

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Speaker 7: going to come way down. He keeps asserting that, and

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Speaker 7: if that happens, people do have short memories in politics,

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Speaker 7: and I think he can claim a victory and the

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Speaker 7: prices come way back down again in time for the midterms, but.

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Speaker 2: Many say it it won't be that easy. And then

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Speaker 2: because the production has been interrupted and it's going to

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Speaker 2: take some time to catch up, flip.

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Speaker 7: It on and off, and then he is going to

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Speaker 7: have to sell around that and make the case. And

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Speaker 7: notwithstanding that this was good for the world, good for

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Speaker 7: the country, it's in our national interest and that is

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Speaker 7: where the case has been weak. Is it really good?

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Speaker 7: Did it have to happen right now at this point

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Speaker 7: in time for the national interest? That is still a

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Speaker 7: very very dividing issue. As we know, people are fighting

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Speaker 7: about it on the rate, on the left, in the

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Speaker 7: independent lean and this is now going to be the

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Speaker 7: number one issue I think going into the midterms, and

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Speaker 7: it would not have been two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: But absolutely not. Now before you go, we've looked at

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Speaker 2: how Apple News shuts out pretty much any right leaning

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Speaker 2: news outlets. MSN is similar, and now the data is

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Speaker 2: in for Google MRC. This is the Media Research Center

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Speaker 2: uncovered that just two percent of Google's news. Google News's

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Speaker 2: top morning stories in February came from sources rated right

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Speaker 2: leaning by Media Ratings Firm, all sides. And you don't

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Speaker 2: get much bigger and more powerful than Google. Dear Kosha,

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Speaker 2: this is huge and the bias is overwhelming.

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Speaker 7: Yes, most powerful company in the world. Those five or

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Speaker 7: six big tech companies went from nothing from launch to

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Speaker 7: I think they're now fifteen trillion in market cap in

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Speaker 7: twenty years. It's never happened in human history. And on

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Speaker 7: top of that, not just market cap, but the product

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Speaker 7: that they sell is information, which controls public opinion, controls masses,

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Speaker 7: controls decisions that we make as countries, as the world.

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Speaker 7: It's a big deal. It's not like Exonomobile or a

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Speaker 7: Widget or other powerful companies we've had in the past.

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Speaker 7: They've been sort of throwing a bone, if you will,

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Speaker 7: after the whole Trump come back a little bit here

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Speaker 7: and there, but not really not really structurally that that

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Speaker 7: is the window to the world. You layer on AI

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Speaker 7: on top of that now, which these companies are all

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Speaker 7: playing in, it's gonna get even worse. I think you

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Speaker 7: feel like you're having a conversation and you're getting truth,

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Speaker 7: and when it comes to political news, you may not

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Speaker 7: be so people.

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Speaker 2: Have now very visual absolutely not do not just trust

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Speaker 2: GPT or even Grock because the political bias exists. They're

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Speaker 2: also Koshergata. Thank you so much for your time. Tonight

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Speaker 2: still to come, well dissect the antics of the celebrity

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Speaker 2: class at the Oscars. Ollie London joins me in next

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Let's bring in author and media personality Ollie

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Speaker 2: London to discuss the latest antics of the celebrity class. Ollie,

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Speaker 2: let's start with Jimmy Kimmel's Oscar speech. The alleged comedian

728
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Speaker 2: took aim at broadcaster CBS's decision to drop Stephen Colbert's

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Speaker 2: The Late Show, and he framed it as an attack

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Speaker 2: on free speech. Have a listen.

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Speaker 14: As you know, there are some countries whose leaders don't

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Speaker 14: support free speech. I'm not at liberty to say which.

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Speaker 14: Let's just leave it at North Korea and CBS.

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Speaker 2: Now, while Jimmy Kimmel there was making jokes about America's

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Speaker 2: supposed lack of free speech. In Iran, filmmakers behind the

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Speaker 2: Oscar nominated film It Was Just an Accident were being

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Speaker 2: arrested Olie by the Islamic regime. Did we hear anything

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Speaker 2: against the Iranian game amongst all the political posturing we

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Speaker 2: heard from the celebrities last night.

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Speaker 10: So at the Oscars, not a single celebrity or Hollywood

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Speaker 10: star mentioned Ran. You didn't see any pins. You had

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Speaker 10: the classic ice out pins, you had the artists for

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Speaker 10: ceasefire pins, the Palestine pins, you had Yavia Baden having

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Speaker 10: a Palacinian resistance pin anti warpin, but not a single

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Speaker 10: pin for the brave Iranian people, the thousands, tens of

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Speaker 10: thousands that have been killed over the last several months protesting.

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Speaker 11: Jane Bonder had a Stopped the Merger pinned.

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Speaker 10: Protest against the paramount Warner Broos merger, but nothing for

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Speaker 10: the Iranians. You know, people are kind of stick and

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Speaker 10: tied of these Hollywood celebrities virtues.

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Speaker 11: Signaling about, you know, what's going on in the world, but.

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Speaker 10: Meanwhile they're completely ignoring and silent on the brave people,

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Speaker 10: the men, women and children that have been taken to

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Speaker 10: the streets knowing that they're likely going to be shot,

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Speaker 10: knowing they're likely going to be killed by the Islamic

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Speaker 10: Republic regime.

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Speaker 11: Yet they're still going out there.

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Speaker 10: So it's just very sad that these Hollywood celebrities would

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Speaker 10: completely ignore the Iranian people.

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Speaker 2: So shameful, even as they have members of that community

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Speaker 2: in that auditorium. Jaffar Panahy was there, who is the

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Speaker 2: director behind that Oscar nominated movie. And in December he

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Speaker 2: was sentenced to prison in Iran in his absence. So

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Speaker 2: if he enters the country, if he goes back home,

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Speaker 2: he is going to be locked up. You would think

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Speaker 2: the Hollywood community would rally around him, but no, they're

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Speaker 2: talking about Stephen Colbert's supposed free speech issues. I mean,

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Speaker 2: his show was axed because it doesn't rate and he

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Speaker 2: costs a lot of money. Now, in that same speech,

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Speaker 2: Olie Jimmy Kimmel had a bit of a shot at first,

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Speaker 2: Lady Milania Trump's documentary have listened.

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Speaker 14: Fortunately for all of us, there's an international community of

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Speaker 14: filmmakers dedicated to telling the truth, oftentimes at great risk,

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Speaker 14: to make films that teach us, that call out injustice

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Speaker 14: then aspire us to take action. And there are also

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Speaker 14: documentaries where you walk around the White House trying on

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Speaker 14: shoes hilarious.

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Speaker 2: I think just a little bit jealous because that doco

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Speaker 2: is doing far better than I think any of them imagined.

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Speaker 10: Well, Jimmy Kimmel is definitely jealous. So many celebrities and

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Speaker 10: liberal media outlets have been taking aim at First Lady

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Speaker 10: Millennia's new documentary film, yet it was number.

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Speaker 11: One on Amazon.

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Speaker 10: It broke records for the best documentary in ten years

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Speaker 10: in cinemas across the US.

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Speaker 11: And you know, so.

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Speaker 10: Many people love and ad are Millennia Trump. She's a

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Speaker 10: pure class act. And I think people like Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 10: are completely jealous that she is getting higher ratings. She's

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Speaker 10: getting higher numbers, and people don't care about these late

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Speaker 10: night talk shows anymore. They're too political. It used to

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Speaker 10: be fun, it used to be a laugh. Now it's

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Speaker 10: all about politics, taking digs at Trump, taking digs at

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Speaker 10: Millennia Trump, who does nothing but tried to help people,

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Speaker 10: what she's doing with the Ukrainian children, trying to unite them.

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Speaker 11: She's doing so much good in the world.

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Speaker 10: And you know they should be actually taking digs and

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Speaker 10: anyone at the Uranian regime and calling them out instead.

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Speaker 2: Now, there were other political protests at the oscars, other

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Speaker 2: political messaging. Actor Javier Barden cried out free Palestine whilst

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Speaker 2: he was on stage, and he also had donned a

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Speaker 2: big pin saying no to war in Spanish and a

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Speaker 2: free Palestine pin as well. Ollie. We also had a

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Speaker 2: number of attendees having anti ICE pins, including singer songwriter

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Speaker 2: Sarah Berrillis and British actress Shariitra Chandran. Just tell me

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Speaker 2: about what other political messaging was evident on the night.

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Speaker 10: Well, you had Jane Fonda, who is you know, nicknamed

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Speaker 10: Hannoia Jane, She's constantly protesting about something. As soon as

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Speaker 10: the US and Israel laud stripes Iran, she was protesting

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Speaker 10: against that, against the US and Israel, trying to free

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Speaker 10: the Iranian people and to help them, you know. So

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Speaker 10: at the Oscars she was wearing a stop the Merger pin,

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Speaker 10: protesting against the paramount Warner Bros. Merger And come on, Jane,

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Speaker 10: there's more important things going on in the world. There's

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Speaker 10: people in Iran that need a voice like yours, and

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Speaker 10: instead you're focusing on silly little things, claiming that free

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Speaker 10: speeches under attack, the Ice out pins, the Palestine pins,

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Speaker 10: you know, saying there's no cea spy yet there's been

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Speaker 10: a Ceaspire in place since October twenty twenty five, so

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Speaker 10: you know they need to get a reality check. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 10: Hollywood stars live in abobble. We saw Billie Eilish at

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Speaker 10: the Grammys saying no one is a legal on stolen land.

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Speaker 10: Yet she didn't seem to let their local native tribes

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Speaker 10: into her mansion when they said that they were going

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Speaker 10: to come take back their land. So they're just full

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Speaker 10: of virtue singling. And to be honest, nobody cares about

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Speaker 10: their opinions anymore.

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Speaker 2: You're right, no one cares about the Hollywood hypocrisy. And

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Speaker 2: it's just so painful and intellectually vacuous. And the reason

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Speaker 2: why they won't speak out against the Iranian regime, we

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Speaker 2: know why. It's because Trump is at war with the

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Speaker 2: Iranian regime and they don't want to be on the

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Speaker 2: same side as the president. So in their minds, my

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Speaker 2: enemy's enemy is my friend. It is just such an

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Speaker 2: unprincipled way to behave. But that's Hollywood for you, And

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Speaker 2: there was something else that was amiss that night. Viewers

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Speaker 2: were left shocked after a number of Hollywood stars were

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Speaker 2: omitted from the memoriam segment. Some big stars including James

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Speaker 2: Van Derbeek, Eric Dane and the late great Bridget Bardo. Olly,

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Speaker 2: how can you not feature Bardo? She is an icon.

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Speaker 10: Well, Bridget Bardou was an icon, but then Hollywood, unfortunately

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Speaker 10: her opinions were too considered by right. In France, she

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Speaker 10: was very outspoken events the migrand crisis. Over the years,

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Speaker 10: she was very outspoken against so many issues, and she

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Speaker 10: was branded far right. And you know, after her death,

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Speaker 10: literally days after a death, you had a Vogue magazine

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Speaker 10: calling her far right. And it's like, this is a

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Speaker 10: woman that gave so much to Hollywood. They should be

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Speaker 10: remembering her and honoring her legacy. And you know, people

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Speaker 10: should be allowed to have political views, but unfortunately in

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Speaker 10: hollywoods it's only left wing views allowed. If you dare

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Speaker 10: straighten that narrative, you are canceled. And it's again it's

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Speaker 10: very sad. But again, nobody seems to watch the Oscars anymore.

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Speaker 10: Nobody seems to care. And I think Bridget Bardos fans

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Speaker 10: are honoring her. They don't need these Hollywood celebrities to

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Speaker 10: honor her.

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Speaker 2: Now, before you go, I'm interested in your reaction to

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Speaker 2: this image that has gone viral. There's been a number

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Speaker 2: of news stories about it. It shows all the trash

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Speaker 2: left behind by the Oscars celebrity attendees. Ollie, I've got

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Speaker 2: to say, I'm not too surprised these actors. They're not

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Speaker 2: going to clean up after themselves. What do we really

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Speaker 2: expecting them to? This is to me completely predictable, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are talking about it.

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 10: Jane Vonda was in attendance. She's a climate change activist.

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Speaker 10: Leonardo DiCaprio, he's a climate change activist. Why were they

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Speaker 10: not practicing what they preach and picking up the trash?

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Speaker 10: You know, come when they left all that trash in

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Speaker 10: there for the workers that have to clean up. And

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Speaker 10: you know they're always lecturing other people, recycle, say the planet,

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Speaker 10: you know, stop using, stop flying, Yet they're flying around

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Speaker 10: in private jets, they're trashing auditoriums, and you know, they're

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Speaker 10: just a bunch of virtue signalers that really don't practice

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Speaker 10: what they preach.

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Speaker 2: Ollie London, always a pleasure. Thanks for your time tonight,

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Speaker 2: and that's all the time we have. I'll see you

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Speaker 2: at eleven tomorrow Night Newsnight is up next.