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Speaker 1: Moto GP met the wild West, and while the King

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Speaker 1: of Coda, Mark Marquez rolled the dice in Texas, Lady

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Speaker 1: Luck wasn't on his side, making way for a new

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Speaker 1: cowboy in town. I'm your host, Rinita Vanmullin and writing

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Speaker 1: Shotgun with me, as always is my co host, the

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Speaker 1: sheriff of a Moto GP stats himself, mister Matt Clayton.

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Speaker 1: Matt the drama in Texas. What a wild ride. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know where to start, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: we have to start with Mark Marquez, right.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we need more than a sheriff to unpack

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Speaker 2: this one and throw the appropriate people in the slammer

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Speaker 2: or not. But man, what a Monday morning that was

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Speaker 2: for us here in Australia. And just when you think

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Speaker 2: you've got MotoGP worked out, Oh we're in Cota. Mark's

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Speaker 2: on pole, Marks on the sprint. Mark always wins in Kota.

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Speaker 2: Strange things happen, and it doesn't get a lot stranger

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Speaker 2: than what happened before the race, did it.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that, because even before the Marquez drama,

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Speaker 1: I want to take it back to Fabio Cordoraro crashing

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Speaker 1: on the side lap as well, when I saw that,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, we're going to be in for some

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Speaker 1: tricky situations here because he doesn't normally crash on a

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Speaker 1: sighting lap. What was going on there? Was it just

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Speaker 1: the wet weather? Was electronics? Was it just because of

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Speaker 1: what we we got about to go into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't crash full stop, let alone on

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Speaker 2: sighting laps. But this is the thing with the motor

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Speaker 2: GP starting procedure, Like that sighting lap is thirty odd

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Speaker 2: minutes before the race starts. You think how quickly the

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Speaker 2: weather can change in thirty minutes. They come around, they

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Speaker 2: sit on the grid, they go through all the ceremonial

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Speaker 2: stuff and anthems and what have you. Fabio just got

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Speaker 2: on a white line and chucked it on a pair

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Speaker 2: of on a set of slicks, and some of the

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Speaker 2: riders were saying the backstraight was just completely aquiplating in

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Speaker 2: a straight line. So the senseible option at that point was, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if this race starts right now, we all need to

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Speaker 2: be on wets. But the problem is the race didn't

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Speaker 2: start right now, and it's that gap, that half hour

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Speaker 2: gap between sighting lap and race start that because it

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Speaker 2: didn't rain anymore and it dries pretty quickly. There you

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Speaker 2: could like, oh, this is one of those not quite

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Speaker 2: like neither answer was correct. It was sort of in

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Speaker 2: that weird space in the middle. And I think the

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Speaker 2: B because it sort of was a bit of a

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Speaker 2: portent of the madness that was to follow, because no

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Speaker 2: one seemed to have the right answer, and in a

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Speaker 2: situation like this, knowing that Marquees is so good around

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Speaker 2: Cota and knowing also that he's so good in judging

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Speaker 2: these conditions, whether it's you know, full wets or whether

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Speaker 2: it's strives or somewhere in between, people were watching to

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Speaker 2: see what he was going to do. Pedro Acosta said

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Speaker 2: afterwards that he instructed his crew to do whatever Mark did,

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Speaker 2: So they were all clearly looking at what Marquez was

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Speaker 2: going to do. But I'm pretty sure none of us

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that because we were in a chat.

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Speaker 1: We always chat while the racing's going on, just find

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Speaker 1: out what news is happening. And I remember saying to you,

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Speaker 1: to Marcus rinting off the grid down pit lane and

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Speaker 1: then you just see half the grid follow What a decision.

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Speaker 1: Because also you can see in the footage that DAWNA

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Speaker 1: thinking about it, and now that you look back you

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Speaker 1: but for him to take that risk and take that gamble,

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Speaker 1: saying he quoted himself saying I really understood the rules, right,

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Speaker 3: To an extent.

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Speaker 2: So he's sitting there on the grid before they're about

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Speaker 3: And there were only.

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Speaker 2: Three writers on Slicks at that point, Brad Brenda and

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Speaker 2: take a if you're Brad Binder and you just ride

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Speaker 2: because frankly, what have you got to lose if you're

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Speaker 3: These wet weather tires. This is not the tire to

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Speaker 2: And it was so premeditated. He had completely planned what

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Speaker 2: decide to go here. And of course, because everyone's watching

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Speaker 2: was this fantastic shot of Peckerbanos on row two, a

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Speaker 2: Mark triggered all of the craziness that followed by standing

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Speaker 2: you know, Jack got royally screwed in that instance because

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Speaker 2: he'd read it correctly. But Marquez knew that if more

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Speaker 2: the actual people that enforced the rule book. In that

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Speaker 2: Mark was trying to trigger this aborted start, and I

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Speaker 2: the end, there was so much chaos as people running

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Speaker 2: videalest thing ever. It's like, you did realize you have

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Speaker 2: So that was all going on. I think race direction

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Speaker 2: And on safety grounds is kind of the impeachable. You

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Speaker 2: can't question that if you're a fan or anyone else

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Speaker 2: just because you go, okay, I'm going to have to

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Speaker 3: It's kind of the Mordor GP.

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Speaker 2: Race direction equivalent of because because I think they've realized

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing is, like you think, for the

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Speaker 1: race director Mike Webb, it kind of did fluster him,

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Speaker 1: rule is he should have technically had a ride through. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but because it flustered them, they had to do that

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Speaker 1: delayed start and so worked in Mark's favor. But you

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Speaker 1: could hear in the telecast the whole time them saying,

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Speaker 1: Benda was on slicks. There was these writers who went

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Speaker 1: they made that decision, like Jack Miller made that decision

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Speaker 1: in Argentina all those years back, so you kind of

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Speaker 1: do feel for them. I wish there was a bit

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Speaker 1: more excite. I meant to it in the fact that

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Speaker 1: maybe we had something, But then obviously we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: marquees and what happened there during the race.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a slight difference with the Augura thing in

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Speaker 2: the Miller thing for me, with Argentina twenty eighteen, which

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Speaker 2: is where this rule came in, because Argentina twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: was clearly ridiculous, not this is the first time this

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Speaker 2: regulation has been tested. Didn't work, let's be honest. So

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Speaker 2: they're going to have to have a look at that.

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Speaker 2: But the difference then was that Jack was on pole

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, you've got Binda, Bastinini and Agura,

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Speaker 2: they're sixteen seventeen eighteen on the grid. I was actually

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Speaker 1: Well, considering all the drama did come from Mark Marquez,

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Speaker 2: to the front is like, Yeah, he's just going to

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00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,919
Speaker 2: win this and he's not going to.

434
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 3: Trip himself up.

435
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 2: He looked far more like Pecko to me this weekend.

436
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 2: Now there's eleven points I think between Mark and Pecko

437
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 2: and the championship statues, which sounds silly given the level

438
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 2: of dominance of one over the other in these first

439
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 2: three rounds. But if Peco learned anything from last year,

440
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,439
Speaker 2: it's no point being perfect most of the time and

441
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 2: incredibly fast if you're going to kill yourself in the

442
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 2: championship by making terrible mistakes. I think we're going to

443
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: see a reduction of that this year. It's the only

444
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 2: way he can hang in this championship with Mark is

445
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 2: to make fewer mistakes than Mark and absolutely capitalize on

446
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 2: the days where Mark drops the ball and so you've

447
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 2: got a twenty five point swing because of one Marquez

448
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,120
Speaker 2: mistake and Pecko's farc lives that have marked the championship.

449
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 2: Then he probably deserves to be on pace so far.

450
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 2: But three rounds in, here we are that's what he's

451
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 2: got to do. It was nice to see him back

452
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: up the front and just looking far more confident again

453
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 2: because over the course of the season. I don't about you, you,

454
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: but I think the rider that can really challenge Mark

455
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 2: as the season goes on is probably longer term going

456
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 2: to be Peko. I think Alex Marcus has been fantastic.

457
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 2: I still have my doubts whether it's sustainable. Across twenty

458
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 2: two rounds, it's been really good, don't get me wrong.

459
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: But to me, Peko's a god that's got the staying

460
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 2: power and so for the sake of the championship, I

461
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 2: think it was good that he won the race.

462
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: I think he kind of hit the nail on the

463
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Speaker 1: head there. And when you were talking about Saturday's sprint,

464
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 1: I had flashbacks to Barcelona the season ending last year,

465
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,239
Speaker 1: where the flight was happening and he said, I'm going

466
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 1: to send it and he did that and it was

467
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: the same thing on Saturday Sprint. I'm going to send

468
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: it and try and challenge Mark. But also then what

469
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: you're saying is about consistency is key, and I think

470
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: he's really learnt the lessons he needed to from twenty

471
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: twenty four in that battle with Jorge Martin all throughout

472
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: the year to attack this season differently. So yeah, I

473
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 1: think we are seeing a different Peko, but it's still

474
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: the professor Professor. It's still someone who's very clinical, analytical,

475
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 1: trying to figure out everything. But he's taking it on

476
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: board and that's what's so exciting, and that's why I

477
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: think he is going to be the one, like you said,

478
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 1: to challenge Mark the rest of the year because Kate,

479
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 1: the first few circuits we know weren't his strong point.

480
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: But now we're heading into Katar he won there last year,

481
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: he is quite stronger that. Then we go back to

482
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: his home ground and obviously Marks, but the European races,

483
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: so that's where I think we're really going to see

484
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: the battle commands between the two of them.

485
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.

486
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously they had that enormous battle at her

487
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: Wrath last year, which Pecko won and really sort of

488
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: bloodied Marx nos and that one, which is not something

489
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: you see with Mark much in a head to headfire anywhere,

490
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: but certainly at her wrath. But I do like the

491
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,239
Speaker 2: fact that you've got two guys coming at it from

492
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: different approaches, in that Mark isn't as just crazy, live

493
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: on you wits as it used to be when he

494
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: was young and a bit bouncy here, and he's obviously

495
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: had a load of injuries, so that will temper your

496
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 2: aggression a little bit. But Pecko's kind of you're thinking

497
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: man's rider, and Pecko like to sort of pulled back

498
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 2: the curtain for people that are listening. Pecko's always him

499
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: and Luca Maroni, I reckon, are the two guys that

500
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: whenever you have these press opportunities at the end races

501
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 2: where you get a chance to talk to guys, I

502
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: like to sort of do at the end of these

503
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 2: things what I sort of call the you know, the

504
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: sideline light. You basically wait for them to head back

505
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: to the garage or to their next engagement. And Pecko's

506
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: the guy that you can have that little loft of

507
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: the side chat with about something and if you ask

508
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: him a sensible question where he gets to think about

509
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: the answer and perhaps, you know, verbalize something that's been

510
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 2: buzzing around in his head. He's very happy to talk

511
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: about it because there's an intellectual approach to the way

512
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 2: that he rides. You wouldn't want twenty two riders like that,

513
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: nor would you want twenty two riders who are just lunatics.

514
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: You know, A nice mixture of the two is good.

515
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: But Pecko's a guy that once he feels that he

516
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: understands things and things are right, he actually gets quicker

517
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: and quicker because he's got the confidence in his head.

518
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: It's like, I can trust this, I know the results here,

519
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: I know what I can do. So I think it's

520
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: a good sign for the championship that he's got the

521
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: win drought of three.

522
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: Races off his back.

523
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,239
Speaker 2: We know that if you're on a to caddie, you're

524
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: probably gonna win a race this year because no one

525
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: else seems to be capable of doing it. So he's

526
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 2: the guy who's going to be in the fight with

527
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,120
Speaker 2: Mark if we get one.

528
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of other duke caddies, and let's talk about

529
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: our championship points leader Alex Marquez. That was another thing

530
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: on my bingo card this season. I didn't expect to say, nope,

531
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: let's talk about Alex. The key for him here, I

532
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: just feel is going to be consistency. Like you said,

533
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: it's very rare that I think this year that will

534
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: have a non factory du Caddi win the World Championship.

535
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: But what's it going to take for Alex Marquez to

536
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: stay up there? Because now we're starting to see the

537
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: VR forty six is make their way through.

538
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, And it's funny like you do. It becomes

539
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: a process of elimination at this point, right. So to

540
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: Caddie's won twenty straight Grand Prix, there's six of them

541
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: on the grid this year. Of those six fermin Aldgeza rookie.

542
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: So you know, nice to have a good result every

543
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: now and then. He's not winning a World championship. I'm

544
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: still a more Bidelli skeptic to a degree because you know, yes,

545
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: he's up there to a degree, but I reckon there's

546
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: a limited ceiling there with how he could do. Degen Antonio,

547
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: who I'm sure we'll talk about, is probably still no

548
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: where do you fit?

549
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: Well?

550
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: He is no where do you fit? I reckon he's

551
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: got a massive amount of upside. To my mind, I

552
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: reckon there's a race for third in the Championship and

553
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: it's been it's going to be between Alex Marques and

554
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: de Janatonio. To me, they're the two guys that could

555
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: potentially flip flop between third and fourth, because I think

556
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 2: Digit has got much more potential. Alex is in the

557
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: absolute form of his life right now. And you know

558
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: when you said that before, World Championship leader Alex Marquez

559
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: is like, whoh, it just sounds weird to say. I

560
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 2: wrote it a couple of times yesterday that it did

561
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: a double takers, like, yeah, he really is leading this

562
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: World Championship in his sixth season. But every single race

563
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: we've had this year, he has finished second and he's

564
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: not been a threat really to win any of them.

565
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: But he's also not been a threat to be beaten

566
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: by anyone.

567
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: He's just been this.

568
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: Incredible, methodical model of consistency so far. It's impressive that

569
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: it's lasted this long. I mean six races, that's a

570
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: big sample size now, so you know, best we've ever

571
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: seen of Alex Marquez and Motor GP keeping it going

572
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: is going to be the hard thing. But let's give

573
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: the guys flowers. He's in the leader of the motor

574
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: GP World Championship by a point over his brother because

575
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: he hasn't made mistakes and he's been second on the

576
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: grid every front row of the grid rather every single weekend,

577
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: and he's just been incredibly impressive. And I know about you,

578
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: but when you get six years into a motor GP career,

579
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like you are who you are

580
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: at that point. Like very few people surprise you, you

581
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like a few people surprise you

582
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: once said this deep into their career, they kind of

583
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: are what they are. He's the guy who's defying that.

584
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: And look, full credit to him because he's been given

585
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: obviously a very good bike, but he's risen to the

586
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: level of what he's writing, so you know, full power

587
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: to him.

588
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: And then speaking of you are who you are, like

589
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Digia my thoughts on that because obviously P three this weekend,

590
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: and then I read a quote on I think amotogp

591
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: dot com he said, I started to write in a

592
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: completely different way. Is it the same sort of thing?

593
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: There?

594
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: Is he changing up now? He's obviously a veteran in

595
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: motor GP he's done a few seasons. We're seeing what

596
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: we have from him, the injuries everything. Is he changing

597
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: his mindset? Is he changing his outlook because I mean

598
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: P three and Koda such a demanding track, especially having

599
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: that shoulder injury, which is the easiest crash that we

600
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: can talk about. Oh man, is this what like starting

601
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: to connect together for him?

602
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 2: I don't think he's the sort of guy, particularly as

603
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 2: he gets fitter as the year goes on. Obviously, you know,

604
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: busted his collar boat in pre season testing by doing

605
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: it WHEELI at the end of the day, the dumbest

606
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: injury of all time. And I don't think he's going

607
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: to duck that. But he's super super quick, And I

608
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: think a lot of it with him is once his

609
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: body starts to play ball. You can see there's a

610
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: shift now with him. It's like I'm not just satisfied

611
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 2: to finish in the top five, like that's nice anymore.

612
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: It's like, no, No, I'm on a really good bike.

613
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: I should be challenging for a podium most weekends. Now

614
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: I actually really rate him. I think he's had a

615
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: he's had a weird motor GP career that he was

616
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: almost out of the sport and then took a podium

617
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: at Philip Island in twenty three and then one two

618
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: races later in Qatar, and that was the turning point

619
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: of his career. But he's still young, he's still super

620
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: super fast, and I think as that, you know, like

621
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: you said, if you can do nineteen laps at with

622
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: all those direction changes. He was absolutely shattered after that race.

623
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: You could see it when he got to Park Fermey

624
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: in the cool down room before they went on the podium,

625
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: he asked someone to hand him a drink because he

626
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: could not move his right his left arm rather, because

627
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: it was just completely frozen, and he said, yeah. The

628
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: last half of the race, he said, he came across

629
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: the start finish light at one point and looked at

630
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: his pitboard to see how many laps there were to go,

631
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: and it said eleven. And he's like, you are kidding me, Like,

632
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: I am absolutely cooked already and I've still got to

633
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: do eleven laps of this race and my shoulder is

634
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: absolutely killing me. So you know, it's amazing what the

635
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: lure of a podium does. He's a really, really good rider,

636
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: and I think if you can survive that test, he

637
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: would have been a very very sore boy for more

638
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: reasons than one. He did say he was going to

639
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: have two hundred beers after finishing on the podium, so

640
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: he might have a sore head as well as a

641
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: sore shoulder. But if you can do what he did

642
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: at Kota, it's the most demanding track on the calendar,

643
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: and you know, you look at what's coming up Katar

644
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: herez a bit more time. His shoulder is going to

645
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: get better. I think he's this is not the last

646
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: time we're seeing him on the podium. I think he's

647
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: a genuine threat at most. Grom Bruno, Well, he was on.

648
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: The podium Qatar when it was moved to the end

649
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: of the calendar, when.

650
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: That's the one that he was.

651
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so surely we're going to see him closer to

652
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: the front, like you said. But absolutely Aussie Jack Miller

653
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: P Five on Sunday, I don't know about you. I'm

654
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: actually so impressed this year with Jack in his mindset.

655
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: It feels like we've said it every time, and I

656
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: think I'll continue to say it. He seems like a

657
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: new writer. He seems refreshed, but also best result on

658
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: the Yamaha equaling his best result last year on the KTM.

659
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: I believe you might have to fact check me on that.

660
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: No, are you correct?

661
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: Okay? What does this do for him? His confidence and

662
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: just the momentum moving forward? Because oh, I'm just I'm

663
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: so happy for him.

664
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking nothing like a bit of research on the fly.

665
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: When you were talking before, I was just ripping through

666
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: a bunch of bunch of stats. I thought, when was

667
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: the last time we had a Yamaha finish in the

668
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: top five. It's been a while. Malaysia twenty twenty three

669
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: was the last time we had a finish in the

670
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: top five in a Grand Prix. So yeah, quite in

671
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: Malaysia that year. So it shows you how good Jack's

672
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: ride was. And he you mentioned before the mindset, I

673
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: think he stared his career mortality completely in the face

674
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: last year and that there was twenty one riders have

675
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: been signed, there was it didn't really feel like he

676
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: was going to stay on the grid. He had no

677
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: results that he could look at on the KTM where

678
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: you could justify him being on the grid. And it

679
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: was this confluence of circumstances where Pramak was moving to Yamaha.

680
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: He'd written for Pramak before they knew who he was

681
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: and what he would be. He's pretty Jack doesn't surprise

682
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: you at this point, like he is what he is.

683
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: They know that he's going to be a good, developmental

684
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: and hard working rider. He's going to be a good

685
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: team player, and Yamaha and needed someone with experience of

686
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: other manufacturers, which Jack had with Honda and Dukadi and KTM,

687
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: So it was this kind of marriage of convenience and

688
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: the fact they only signed him for one year was

689
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: a bit of a like, look, we're kind of admitted

690
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: to you because you're you know, you're the least worst

691
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: option of what there is out there, but you kind

692
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: of need to prove it to us. And what he's

693
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: done so far this year, like I said, best result

694
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: fore y Abaha in twenty six Grand Prix or something.

695
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: But it's what he's doing, you know, getting into Q two,

696
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: and you know, it was really interesting on Friday at

697
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Cota when it was soaking wet. Everyone's looking at Jack

698
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: because they know he's got this kind of supernatural feeling

699
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: when do you switch to slicks. He made the rest

700
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: of them look utterly ridiculous in that practice session for

701
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: half of it because the track was still sketchy. It's like, oh,

702
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm out on slicks and everyone else is

703
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: plodding around or falling off, and he's just really off

704
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: laptops at are two and three seconds faster than everybody else.

705
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: And I think we mentioned this on last week's pot.

706
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: He gets that project to its sealing really quickly. It's

707
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: just something that Jackie is. It's just the natural talent

708
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: that shines through. They're wrapped with what he's doing. And

709
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: I know we're only three races into a twenty two

710
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: round calendar. I will be shocked if they don't resign

711
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: him for next year, because you think, okay, so what

712
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: are the other options? Do you bring Abellino or Guevara

713
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: up from Moto two. It's the last year of this

714
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: current rule set in twenty twenty six. All the reasons

715
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: to make a change are sort of dissipating by the week.

716
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: I'll be shocked if he doesn't get another gig for

717
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: next year. And look, it might only be a one

718
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: year deal, but that's kind of what he's going to

719
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: get at this stage of his career, in his thirties.

720
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: But in terms of what Yamahar expected from Jack and

721
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: what Jack expected from himself in these first three rounds,

722
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: It's hard to see how it could have gone much

723
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: better than this. And it was one of those fifth places,

724
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: you know, first non duc caddy across the line, which

725
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: is something we have to always caveat these days. Who

726
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: was the best non duc caddy? It was Jack on

727
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: this weekend. We know that he's good around there, but

728
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: it just looks so assured, you really really good start.

729
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Really he learned the lessons from the sprint race to

730
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: previous day where he'd left a gap on the inside

731
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: at turn white up the hill there at Kota, Brad

732
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Bender had stuck his bike in there and smacked into

733
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Jack and lost his momentum, broke some body work and

734
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: Jack sort of plummeted back down the field. Jack hugged

735
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: the inside line into turn one, let everyone else go

736
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: too white, and then slotted in there. Was fighting with

737
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: Morbidelli for a little bit, but you're never going to

738
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: win that fight on the back straight against the Ducati.

739
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: But with what he's riding and where that project is,

740
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: I thought it was a massive box tick, and I

741
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: know we did. Pramac particularly, they are super happy with

742
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: what he's doing.

743
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: Going into this weekend, though for him he seems so confident.

744
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: Is this because it's a circuit that just suits him

745
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: as a writer in his riding style, compared to Argentina,

746
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: where we know that circuit just doesn't even suit the

747
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: Yamahas at all. Or was it just the progress he's

748
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: made everything's kind of coming into alignment for him.

749
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: It's funny Koda because it's twenty corners and the majority

750
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: of them are places where Jack can make a difference.

751
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: But I was watching the speed trap figures because I

752
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: get granular about these things, is what I do, and

753
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: I was looking at the speed trap figures in the

754
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: race betweens turn eleven and twelve. At the end of

755
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: the back straight there, the Yamaha was anywhere between eight

756
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: to ten k's an hour slower than the other bikes

757
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: down that back straight.

758
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Which you could see in the Sucrea.

759
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Just see correct and you can know so Fabi, I

760
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: was doing it amazing job in the sprint, but you'd

761
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: get to that. I'm not saying it requires no skill

762
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: to go down a straight on a motor GP bike,

763
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: but it's the least skillful part of the job either

764
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: you are pointing the bike out of the corner, and

765
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: then it's up to what your machinery can do. You

766
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: can only break so late, you can only accelerate so hard.

767
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: So given that Jack was shipping time down that back

768
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: straight the entire race for nineteen laps and they're making

769
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: the difference elsewhere. What the interesting stat for me was

770
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: that he was eleven seconds off the win at Cota.

771
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: The leading Yamaha twelve months ago at Cocha was Quator

772
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: he was twenty two seconds off the win. So in

773
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: twelve months, Yamaha's half their margin to the front of

774
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: the field at a track that's absolutely not suitable for

775
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: their bike. So if you ever wanted a statistical revelation

776
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: on it, how much Yamaha's improved, you're on y That's

777
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: it to me, because you know, you look at you

778
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: can only be judged against what the standard is. Who's

779
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: finishing first and in twelve months have half the gap

780
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: to the front at a circuit that's not really for them. Yeah,

781
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: it does show you that making progress, doesn't it.

782
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: How is that reflecting then for Fabio on the factory Yamaha,

783
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: Because like I said, I pointed out that that battle

784
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: that he had with the VR forty six is and

785
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: where he was losing, and it was so clear. Is

786
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: are we seeing this stuff trickle down what Jack's doing

787
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: and how he is improving? Is that going to the

788
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: factory Yamahas.

789
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think Fabio's race Grand Prix was difficult

790
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: to judge because with all the bikes, what madness and

791
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: putting sleeks on, and he had a bike that had

792
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: the wrong electronic map and it was all a bit crazy.

793
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: There were a few guys that got caught out, so

794
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to judge what Fabio did on

795
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: Sunday at Kota. But to my mind, that factory team,

796
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: in particular, particularly Fabio side of the garage, is going

797
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: to be the biggest beneficiary of what Jack's doing with

798
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: Pramac because they're saying this four equal bikes. We know

799
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: Prama's had a bit of a few issues with Miguel

800
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: Lavera being injured, so he was out on the weekend.

801
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: Alex Reads, as we've discussed, is three quarters fit on

802
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: a good day, so he's not a great challenge for Fabio.

803
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: Within that team, you can just see that what Jack

804
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: is doing and is more attitude and approach, and that

805
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: Yamaha has almost been a bit apologetic for being at

806
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: the races the last few years, like you look down

807
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: the order and go, oh, and there's a Yamaha. Like

808
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: that's they were kind of an afterthought. They're not an

809
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: afterthought anymore because they are making Q two and in

810
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: this battle for whoever the second best manufacturer is because

811
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: Ja Caaddi's in a class of its own, it's super

812
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: open because katm keep tripping over themselves. Honda are making

813
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: progress to a degree, but I think their rider lineup

814
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: is hampering them a little bit because at the moment

815
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: Chantra is just not really at the races. That's one

816
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: of their four bikes and not really getting anything out

817
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: of and Aprilia has this huge asterisk on it because

818
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: we haven't seen Juge Martin yet. So you look at

819
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: what Yamaha is doing in this who wants to be

820
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 2: a distant second but second nonetheless to Ducaddi, what Jack

821
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: is doing and the way that's feeding back up to

822
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: the factory team. I just can't see how you could

823
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: have thought this had got any better than it has

824
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: these first three rounds.

825
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: Do you then think that the way that Jack's attacking it,

826
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: and also so how we are seeing Fabio having to

827
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: really override the bike, especially into breaking corner entry, to

828
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: try and make up for that lack of what we're

829
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: seeing down the streets. Is that able? Are they able

830
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: to withstand that throughout the season.

831
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: It's going to be one of those things. It's going

832
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: to take time. And you know, I mentioned that twenty

833
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: twenty six is the last year of this rule set.

834
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: Jack mentioned after the race that you know, look, yes, Yamaha,

835
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: look we're coming. It's definitely getting better. But he cited Ducadian.

836
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: So it kind of took Ducaddi ten years to really

837
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: get there, get themselves together because they had the Casey

838
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: Stoner era, and then it wasn't until like the mid

839
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: twenty tens. It was I think it was that the

840
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: Yanoni win in Austria. I reckon it's like fifteen or sixteen,

841
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: as long after Casey had left, and then the Ducadi

842
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: was only good at particular tracks for a while, like

843
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: anything that had a massive log straight not too many quarters,

844
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: Ducati fantastic. It really took until what's seventeen eighteen when

845
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Daviciosa started becoming more of a championship contender those ten

846
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: years after Casey won that well, y Agibino seven, So

847
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: these things do take time. What will be interesting for

848
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: me next year? And this is something that all the

849
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: manufacturers are going to have to think about. You've got

850
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: these sort of two seasons in parallel for twenty six

851
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: and seven, because yeah, you want to make the most

852
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: of twenty six and try and advance forward, but then

853
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: so many of the rules and regulations and the bikes

854
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: will go in the bin at the end of twenty

855
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: six because you've got this brand new rule set for

856
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: twenty seven. So someone like Yamaha, they've got a balance between, yeah,

857
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: it's great that we're improving, how much can we challenge

858
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: towards the front? But this twenty seven regulation changes like

859
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: a hard reset for the entire series. There's no guarantee

860
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: Decadi's going to come out and twenty seven and just

861
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: wipe the floor of everybody, which they are going to

862
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: do this year and more than likely are going to

863
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: do for next year. Twenty seven is this level playing

864
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: field hard reset And we see this in motorsport all

865
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: the time. There'll always be someone that interprets the rules

866
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: better than the others. And they'll take the lead in

867
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: this new regulatory set and then everyone else will go, oh,

868
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: we need to do what they're doing, and then this

869
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: sort of imitation becomes the most sincere form of flattery

870
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: type thing, and that you basically follow on from what

871
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: they're doing. So Yamaha has got this interesting conundrum now

872
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: and that there's clearly a pathway for them. It's clearly

873
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: getting better. Does that give you optimism that jack can

874
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: be involved in what they do twenty seven in the

875
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: development of what's going on there. He's such an experienced

876
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: right now. We forget because he's thirty years old and

877
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: he still acts like he's eighteen.

878
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: Half the time.

879
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: He's press debriefs like one of the high comedy moments

880
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: of the entire weekend because you need the bleep machine.

881
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 3: Every third word for jackets always a music.

882
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: But he's definitely making an impact there, and I'm pleased

883
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: to see it because he's just he seems in a

884
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: good space right now, doesn't He seems content, He seems confident,

885
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: he knows the impact that he's making. And he said

886
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: on the weekend along the lines of when I'm happy,

887
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm fast, and I think there's so much of we

888
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: talk about things in data and technical terms. In this sport,

889
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: sometimes it's what's going on between the writer's ears that

890
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: is a determinert of how well they're going to ride.

891
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: And Jack's a guy who, at the end of the day,

892
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: Jack needs to feel valued and loved and I don't

893
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: think he felt that at KTM, and I think he's

894
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: definitely feeling it.

895
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: Now let's move on to KTM and the best of

896
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: the rest. What a mixed bag of results it was

897
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: across the board for those guys. Pedro Acosta p seven

898
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: in the sprint and then said he was struggling with

899
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: brutal vibrations crashing out of also Sunday's Grand Prix. Is

900
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: this just a one off problem or is this something

901
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: that KATM really need to be concerned about, because it

902
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: wasn't just Pedro didn't fish Sunday, it was Brad as well.

903
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Binda had a technical issue with that. That the

904
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: vibration thing on the KTM. I think Jackie Look could

905
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: write you twenty five hundred words on that pretty quickly,

906
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: because that was Do you remember that round at Motegi

907
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: last year where there was that super slow mo shot

908
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: of Jack's bike vibrating like a bucking Bronco going into

909
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: one of those big breaking zones at Motegi and Jack Slaassey.

910
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: I'm not making this up. I've been talking about this

911
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: the whole time. This bike just vibrates like hell underbreaking.

912
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: So Katm's in a weird position at the moment because

913
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: you look at their rider lineup. You've got three guys

914
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: who've won Grand Prix in Vignales, Bastiarditi and Binda, and

915
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: one guy who's clearly going to win some Grand Prix

916
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: in a Costa. Really strong rider lineup. We know they

917
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: had their off season difficulties financially and what have you,

918
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: but every weekend I and this is maybe, you know,

919
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: maybe I should expect less from them, but I always

920
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: think that it's going to be better than it is

921
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: for them because they've got this great rider lineup. They've

922
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: got everything you would need, and it's just not happening.

923
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: And we remember how good a Costa was at Cocha

924
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: last year. It was kind of his you know, wow,

925
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: this guy is going to be a massive force, and

926
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: he qualified well because he can ring one lap out

927
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: of the bike. Vinales depends on the week bastidity and

928
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: binder have never been historically good qualifiers, so Acosta's putting

929
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: the bike in a position where it probably shouldn't be

930
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: at the start of these races. So you're always going

931
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: to look bad if you go backwards, right, So but

932
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: at the moment there, like I said before, it pribly

933
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: has got this asterisk because we don't know because their

934
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: best guy hasn't ridden yet. Katie and I'm always just

935
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: a bit, like a bit sort of underwhelmed with what

936
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: they're doing because it just feels like it should be better,

937
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: and unfortunately for them, this was just a continuation of

938
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: what's happened in the previous two rounds.

939
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: What about Honda, I just want to touch on them

940
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: briefly because it felt like a positive weekend and the

941
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: fact of Marini and Mere qualified what's seventh and eighth

942
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: for the grid, which is great and that's what we want.

943
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: And then Zarko, I read in a post race debrief,

944
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: said that he feels like they made a huge step forward.

945
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: That's kind of something they've constantly been saying for such

946
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: a long time. As they're making steps forward, making step forward.

947
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Do you think Honda are heading in the right direction?

948
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Or do we need to see some more consistency for

949
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: them before I.

950
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, I mean Argentina they were fantastic. I mean,

951
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: Zarko is very good at that track and they were

952
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: really really good there. I thought Marini had a good

953
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: weekend at Coda. Juan Mere crash writer, Okay, we've got

954
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: that box ticked in this podcast. And Zarko just had

955
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: a bit of a spotty weekend. He was down a

956
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: couple of time, time got stuck in Q one, didn't

957
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: really feature Crash towards the end of the race as well,

958
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: and managed to remount and finish as a last classified runner.

959
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: So a bit of a bit of a blit for

960
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: them after Argentina. I don't think it's going to be

961
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: as good as Argentina was.

962
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: Every week.

963
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: They're clearly making progress. I felt the last couple of

964
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: years that you had this sort of like two tier

965
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Motor GP. It was like the old CRT days and

966
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: that you just have the Japanese cup down the back,

967
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: and they were so far down the back that you'd

968
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: look to see, oh, the leading Japanese like rider finished twelfth. Fantastic,

969
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: You've got yourself four points. So it feels like they're

970
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: more at the races these days, both Yamaha and Honda,

971
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: but I reckon after Argentina, Honda got a little bit

972
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: of a reality check at Cota, but it's clear that

973
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: they are better than they have been. It's just they're

974
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: coming from so far back, aren't they.

975
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the results from Sunday's race, and

976
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: so once we get to Jack Miller first Yamaha, then

977
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: we haven't a Prillia but Zechi Kati and Bashanini HRC

978
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: Honda Marini. I grew a trackhouse of Frillier Famio Cordro Yamaha,

979
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: so it's I know we're calling him the best of

980
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: the rest, but these guys are starting to get into

981
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: the top ten. Yep, Well what about a Prillier? Are

982
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: they just missing that one percent because they kind of

983
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: banked everything on Joge Martin. I know, I just said

984
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: we had what do we have? I Agura there at

985
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: ninth and then but second sixth? Is that just a

986
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: one off?

987
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

988
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: I mean, look, until Martin is a back and be

989
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: anywhere near one hundred percent fit, we're not going to

990
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: find out where the limit of the bike is. I

991
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: think for me, Agura has been really really promising, Like

992
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: he's looked he hasn't looked like a rookie at any point.

993
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: I mean we saw that in Thailand. He looks like

994
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: a guy who belongs and there is a different way

995
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: that he goes about it. I think he's been terrific

996
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: for these first three grand prior that he could.

997
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 3: Have asked for more.

998
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: But Zeki, for me, he's been a little bit sort

999
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: of disappointing slash anonymous in that there's he's experienced enough

1000
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 2: now that I was curious as to, Okay, look, Martin's out.

1001
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: You're in the factory team. Yes you knew because you've

1002
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: been on a caddy, but this is almost like, are

1003
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: you able to take the next step in your development

1004
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: as aarriety or not just a guy who can occasionally

1005
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: snipe for podiums.

1006
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: Can you be a figurehead and lead what's going on here?

1007
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: And it's been like, okay, like a bit sort of blah,

1008
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: and I wondered if there was another level in there.

1009
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: He's another guy who win things are right, is very

1010
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: very good, but there was a leadership piece there that

1011
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: I wondered if it was going to merge And the

1012
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: fact that a priliest leading writer after three rounds. Is

1013
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: Ayagura now great for Iagura, you know in the championship, fantastic,

1014
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: much better than we expected. But to me, that's two things.

1015
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: It's a Aura has been great, Bazeki's just been a

1016
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: bit so far.

1017
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of hit the nail on the head,

1018
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: and it is exciting to see Igua, especially Trackhouse, you know,

1019
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: taking that big risk on him, all that drama that

1020
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: it like came out in the off season. But then

1021
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: we hear on Friday that a Prillier are having all

1022
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: this technical drama, technical issues again. We see that so

1023
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: often with a Prillia though it's like I said before,

1024
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: it it's just that one percent of these those little

1025
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: boxes that they're not ticking, and that's not not homeless

1026
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: try again, not one's helping them get to that next step.

1027
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you look at Motor GP. You've got

1028
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent on one hundred percent of

1029
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: the time, and it feels like they're ninety seven on

1030
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: ninety six percent of the time, like they're there and

1031
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: thereabouts most of the time. But that thing on Friday

1032
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: at Cota where the engine was so cold because it

1033
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: was raining and it wasn't working.

1034
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: Like you remember back to a Prillia in.

1035
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: The past, like that year we went to India, which

1036
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: was what twenty twenty three, and Elisia Spargo is basically

1037
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: getting cooked by his own bike because it was running

1038
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: so hot. So there's little things like that that they

1039
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: only ever seem to happen to a Prillier And so

1040
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: you just wonder like, is that just some coincidence or

1041
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: is there just like that little you know, one or

1042
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: two percent that they might be off operationally compared to

1043
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: everybody else. What we haven't had is an absolute a

1044
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: lister rider on that bike who will be able to

1045
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: perhaps transcend what the machinery is capable of. And look

1046
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 2: we're hearing jo Hey, Martin should be back for Qatar.

1047
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: What sort of condition he's in is going to be

1048
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: the interesting part. You can't expect him just to come

1049
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: back to Qatar and instantly be on it. I think

1050
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: we need two or three rounds and he needs to

1051
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: probably fall off once or twice and not hurt himself

1052
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: and just you know, get all the cob webs out.

1053
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: You're operating at such a high level. But once we

1054
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: get to like round six, seven eight, that midpoint of

1055
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: the season. We're in Europe for a bit. Then we're

1056
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: going to find out where a Prilier stands relative to

1057
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: its own level of performance so far and also relative

1058
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: to the rest, because I feel that Yamaha's kind of

1059
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: maxing out what they've got at the moment, Honda's kind.

1060
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 3: Of the same.

1061
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: Katm is just in this underwhelming cycle of whatever it

1062
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: is that they're doing. We just don't know whether Prillier yet,

1063
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: and so I really hope for the sake of the

1064
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: show that we have Martine on some front rows, and

1065
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: we have Martine scrapping at the front with Mark and

1066
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: Alex and Peco. We know the guy's good enough. It's

1067
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: just whether the machinery is going to be capable of

1068
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: a low give to stay there.

1069
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: It was nice for Jorge Martin to make an appearance

1070
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: in Coder. You can see he is determined, and that's

1071
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: what I'm excited to see for him to come back.

1072
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: But like I mentioned earlier, looking at the results from

1073
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: Sunday's Grand Prix, we are having all the manufacturers now

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Speaker 1: in the top ten. Whether that's a one off or not,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it makes the story. It makes the

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Speaker 1: sport exciting and going into Coder I think, no, we're

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Speaker 1: just do credit. Going into guitar is what I think

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Speaker 1: we need. But let's also quickly touch on our other

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Speaker 1: Aussies in the other classes. Santa Agius in Moroto two

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Speaker 1: took a big gamble because there was that rain. He

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Speaker 1: decided to go on slicks and obviously not the right option,

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Speaker 1: so he was I think twenty fourth.

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Speaker 3: Maybe in Understandable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's one of those ones where he qualified.

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Speaker 2: He was what sixth row of the Grid's that's the

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Speaker 2: role that ice you make when you've qualified down there,

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Speaker 2: because you've kind of got nothing to lose. So Understandable

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Speaker 2: could have looked like an absolute genius if it had

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Speaker 2: just dried out a little bit more. But shows you

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Speaker 2: how weird that weather was at coder Or. It was

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Speaker 2: almost the reverse weather of MotoGP in that. You know,

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Speaker 2: if he'd been racing two hours later, it would have

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Speaker 2: been an absolutely genious move. But you can completely understand

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Speaker 2: why he did it because it's one of those races

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Speaker 2: that well, if I can just if I do the

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Speaker 2: same as everybody else, I'm going to trundle around and

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Speaker 2: finish you know, eight eighth or twentieth or something. I

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Speaker 2: may as well roll the dice here, so you know,

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Speaker 2: understandable in the circumstances. But it didn't feel like anyone

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Speaker 2: other than Jake Dixon was going to do anything at

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Speaker 2: Coder anyway. It was like a British weather. He was

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Speaker 2: just riding around like for fun. He was just smashing everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting and I think it's good to see Jake

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Speaker 1: doing so well, fitting in at home with Mark VIDs

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Speaker 1: and obviously I think it's it's the bruster confidence he

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Speaker 1: need if he's going to progress in his career. And

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Speaker 1: I mean that's like a whole nother podcast on its

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Speaker 1: own better. Oh yeah, he ends up in mto GP

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Speaker 1: or ends up following similar to like Sam Low's and

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Speaker 1: going to Wilson Bikes. But it's nice and it's good

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Speaker 1: and it's good to have a brit because obviously, like

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Speaker 1: another honorary Aussie, it's someone else we can root for

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Speaker 1: here in Australia. But let's talk about Murdo III. Joel

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Speaker 1: Kelso qualifying third on the grid and then bought it

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Speaker 1: home for second in Sunday's race. When I think about that,

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Speaker 1: I think to last year, and I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: bad for Joel now because we're always like he's just

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Speaker 1: consistently not there. He starts the race, well, he's qualifying well,

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Speaker 1: but then if something just happens, Okay, we know Thailand

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Speaker 1: wasn't the best result for him getting involved in that tangle,

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Speaker 1: then we are Argentina. But now it's like, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: feel like things are starting to click for Joel and

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Speaker 1: he's got big dreams. I heard him openly say he

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Speaker 1: wants to move up to Moto too. So is this

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Speaker 1: what he needs to do consistently beat up the front

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Speaker 1: now fighting and podiuming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like this is a podium that's been

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Speaker 2: about twelve months in the making. Like it's like, yes,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna o No he's not. Yes, No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of those sorts of experiences watching Joel

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Speaker 2: in Moto three, but there's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: The speed's there.

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Speaker 2: It's just he hasn't had the hasn't been able to

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Speaker 2: really complete the results that he speeds indicated through a

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Speaker 2: lot of these races, and that you would see him

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Speaker 2: right in the front pack, but he'd be finishing seventh

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Speaker 2: at the back of the front pack, so there'd be

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Speaker 2: a lot of those sorts of weekends. So really good

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Speaker 2: result for him. He's clearly stepped up with a team

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Speaker 2: and his physical fitness and his attention to detail. He's determination. Realistically,

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Speaker 2: he does need to get out of Motor three at

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Speaker 2: the end of this year. You would think, get up

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Speaker 2: to Moto two and see how he goes there.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Surprised that he's up the front. I mean the key

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Speaker 2: thing now was you know we were saying before how

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Speaker 2: particular Coder is as a race track, particularly on a

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Speaker 2: motor three bike that's straight, must feel like it takes

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Speaker 2: about three hours to get down there on a motor

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Speaker 2: three bike. But we'll get to Qatar, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: her Reth. But it's good that he's got that podium

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Speaker 2: under his belt before we head back to Europe, and

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Speaker 2: he's with a good team and on a good bike,

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Speaker 2: so I don't think it'll be the last we see

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Speaker 2: of him up there.

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Speaker 1: And Jacob Rulstone his first race of twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: after sustaining that neck injury in the off season. I

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Speaker 1: know he didn't have the greatest qualifying but what did

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Speaker 1: he finish p fourteen on some of these races. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's a brilliant result for your first race

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Speaker 1: of the year.

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Speaker 2: Almost a victory in some respects because it wasn't so

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Speaker 2: long ago that he had a serious, serious crashing preseason,

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Speaker 2: really hurt himself to come back for round three, And

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Speaker 2: it was actually you that told me that he was

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Speaker 2: going to be back for a round three, and I

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Speaker 2: thought that seems a little premature given how severe that

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Speaker 2: injury was. But this was a weekend where he just

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Speaker 2: needed to be there, get back in the flow, feel

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Speaker 2: the exhaustion. I'm sure everything hurt a lot on Sunday

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Speaker 2: afternover him there in Kota, but just great for him

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Speaker 2: to bank a couple of points, get some laps under

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Speaker 2: his belt, get through a full weekend. We've now got

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Speaker 2: two weeks before Katar so he gets a chance to

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Speaker 2: recuperate a little bit further. That first weekend back was

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Speaker 2: always going to be hard for him. So the fact

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Speaker 2: that he's got that done, he hasn't re injured himself.

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Speaker 2: He scored a couple of points and now he sees

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Speaker 2: and can actually start. So it was nice to see

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Speaker 2: him back up there and just the approach that he took.

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Speaker 3: I thought was absolutely spot on what you just.

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Speaker 1: Said there about him hurting after the weekend, the first

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Speaker 1: weekend back on the bike, and then I think about

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Speaker 1: Joga Martine, and it's something that I don't know if

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Speaker 1: a lot of people understand. There's not much you can

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Speaker 1: do to replicate being what they call bike fitness and

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Speaker 1: be able to maneuver on the bike, and if you

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Speaker 1: haven't done it for a while, like Jacob and like

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Speaker 1: Jorge Martin's going to experience, they're gonna hurt in places

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Speaker 1: they haven't felt it a long time.

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Speaker 2: They're so funny, these guys. I would always go to

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Speaker 2: the Malaysia preseason test because no one have been on

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Speaker 2: a Motor GP tea Moto GP bike for several months,

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Speaker 2: and you would speak to them after day one and

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Speaker 2: they'd all look at you, the riders, like how do

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Speaker 2: I do this every second weekend? Like I was six

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Speaker 2: laps into my first run of preseason testing and I

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Speaker 2: needed like a massage and to sleep. I was absolutely shattered, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that thing about being bike fit, you can't. Yes, you

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Speaker 2: can ride superbikes and you can do all the training

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Speaker 2: that you like, but nothing replicates being on a World

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Speaker 2: Championship bike than being on a World Championship bike. So

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Speaker 2: he effectively started his preseason in a race weekend at Cota,

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Speaker 2: so he'll be certainly better for it, but I reckon

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Speaker 2: he slept pretty well, so I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know it. That's what makes METOGP so exciting and

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Speaker 1: so different to Formula one is I know those guys

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Speaker 1: have simulators and whatnot and they're replicating it as much

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Speaker 1: as they can, but with Moto GP, we just don't

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Speaker 1: have that. So when these guys getting on these bikes,

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Speaker 1: they're like Jacob getting on the bike for the first

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Speaker 1: time in twenty twenty five and off you go into

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Speaker 1: a Motor three Moto three World Championship race. So that's

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Speaker 1: all we love about MotoGP. But we've said it a

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Speaker 1: few times. Next race is a guitar in two weekends time.

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Speaker 1: You guys can keep up to date with all the

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Speaker 1: latest MotoGP news though on our website at foxports dot

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Speaker 1: com dot au. For Slash Motorsport, I nearly just had

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Speaker 1: a mind blake then try to remember the website. But

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Speaker 1: we've also got all the social media channels at Fox

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Speaker 1: Motorsport on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube. Matt, thank you for

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Speaker 1: the catch up for the America's Grand Prix. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be back real soon with more Moto GP pit talk

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Speaker 1: stop