WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 13 May 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.320 On scorn lives Austrodia. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.080 This is the Wider Panalty Show. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.760 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panning Show. Coming 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.920 up tonight, Coalition Climate wars on the horizon as Liberals 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.439 off for Susan Lee as leader. Patrick Carline will be 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.920 here to discuss the day's top headlines, including leftist feminist 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.320 agitators Abby Chatfield and Clementine Ford turning on each other. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.080 Sippety Bastian will weigh in on the new liberal leader. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.600 Is she a genuine women's rights warrior or does she 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.080 struggle to explain what a woman is? Kosher Gator will 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.960 have the latest on the trade war between China and 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.800 the US, and later in the hour they always droll 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.400 Alex Stein on the Trump administration taking on big farmer 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.720 and left. He's losing. It is a extra unhinged tonight. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:54.800 I can help me talk to somebody. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.160 He didn't you Entime tegal. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.280 Rules Today voted in Susan Lee as their new leader, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.319 opting for her over Angus Tail on a very slim 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.120 margin of twenty nine to twenty five, which saw Jacenterprives 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.440 decide not to run for deputy leadership. Are that left 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.000 ted O'Brien to defeat Phil Thompson quite comfortably thirty eight 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.560 to sixteen votes. Now on Susan Lee, we know she 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.160 added an extra s to her name because of her 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:28.000 belief in numerology. She has also done some massive backflips 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:32.160 on a range of issues, from Israel to the Voice referendum. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.280 On Israel, she is a bit of a late convert. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.240 She labeled Foreign Minister Pennywonk's criticism of the only Jewish 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.120 state disgraceful. Recently, but earlier in her political career she 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.280 took a different approach. In twenty eleven, she voted for 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:53.680 Palestinian statehood, saying a secure Israel demands a Bible Palestinian state. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:59.200 The occupation's daily toll checkpoints, permits, lockdowns, home detention, settlement 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.840 expansion is exhausting the Palestinian people and are undermining hopes 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.920 for peace. And in two thousand and eight, she said 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:11.600 during Israel's sixtieth and adversary in Parliament that Gaza is besieged, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.320 contained on the brink of starvation. She said, while we 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:21.080 celebrate Israel's remarkable achievements, the Palestinian people must not be 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:26.280 airbrushed out of existence. On the Crucial Voice referendum. She 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:31.360 was initially in favor before the backflip to the No side, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.639 and only last year she was promoting the deeply flawed 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.079 activist gender wage gap report. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.000 I'm pleased to see the scrutiny that is being applied 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.800 today with the release of this data to organizations in Australia. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.840 My message to corporate Australia is it's not. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.160 Good enough to have a morning tea and cupcakes and 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:55.000 pink icing. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.359 Now let's bring in a senior News Corp writer, Patrick 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.800 Carly for his take on this issue. How do you 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:07.160 see at Patrick? The choice was between Angus Taylor Susan Lee. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.760 Is this the rebirth of the Liberal Party? 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:12.399 Well, we'll have to wait and see. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:12.800 Reeza. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.800 Look, she's got the hardest job in politics at the moment. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.040 She's going to seek to unite a party that managed 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.560 to alienate so many different parts of the community only 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.400 a couple of weeks ago with the election. The Liberal 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.960 Party doesn't know what it is, what it's trying to be, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.680 and what it wants to be. And this this rebuild, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.200 if you want to call it, that is going to 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.640 take months, if not years. She's going to be in charge. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:42.000 She's traditionally a moderate. You talk about backflipping, but the 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:46.200 party managed to put off so many sections of the community. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.120 What she has to try and do is sort of 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.440 present a party that listens to Australia and actually is 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.200 aware of what strands care about in a way that 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:00.200 it plainly did not coming into twenty twenty five. She's 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:01.160 got a really tough. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.600 Job, she certainly does. And that job may be even 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:09.160 tougher if the moderate Susan Lee as Liberal leader sees 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:14.280 a split with the National Coalition because the issue of 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.040 energy is going to be crucial. If the National Party 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.440 walk away from their net zero commitments, that is going 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.400 to be quite a rift in the coalition. Certainly, if 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.280 Matt Canavan was elevated to leader, that would be happening. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.560 But even David a little Proud has indicated that he 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.200 is not interested in this renewables only position. He just 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:42.920 does not see it as sustainable and it's not going 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.000 to power Australia. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.480 Look, I think the timeline this is probably helpful for 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.200 somebody Susan Lee in this position. In the net zero 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.320 twenty fifty question has sort of got muddled in the 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.360 last few years by rising power prices and by growing recognition. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:03.560 I think that the renewables dream is unachievable without fossil fuels. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.640 And I mean, you've got all these sort of arguments 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.480 going on about gas and whether we should be using 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:13.279 more gas because it shut down on more coal power 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.600 stations sooner, and you've got all these little arguments with 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.919 their arguments. I don't think the twenty fifty question is 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.120 sort of front of center for a lot of Australians 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:21.680 at the moment. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.240 It isn't. But we are going to see labor be 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.599 even bolder in their emission targets. There's a huge push 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.920 from within labor, the very powerful climate lobby groups within 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.040 Labor are wanting to see them take a bolder position 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:45.359 really utilize this enormous election landslide. Can energy be the 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.479 debate point between the two parties? Because we had just 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.719 an election where many people wondered what the difference was 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.520 between the two parties. Could it be energy? 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.760 Look Ted O'Brien, who is Susan Lee's deputy, he was 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.479 the nuclear guy for the party. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.839 He had listed a word about nuclear throughout the campaign 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:04.599 that was so. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.479 Terrified it fell apart. That whole sort of notion of 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.760 nuclear as an alternative really did fall by the wayside, 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.120 didn't it. Throughout? Look, I think power bills are the 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.080 big question here. Are they going to keep going up? 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.840 Is it going to be because of renewable energy targets 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:23.039 that are unachievable. Look, the hip pocket drives a lot 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.360 more in terms of a voter sentiment than does saving 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.920 the world. The abstraction of saving the world, I think, 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.480 and certain those power prices really hurting people. I think 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.640 how those come down will have a huge bearing on 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.200 targets and thoughts. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.000 But that argument really probably because we don't have a 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.680 coalition government that is strong enough to make these arguments. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.880 And I've argued if they actually went to the election 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.039 campaign made it a referendum about energy policy, they would 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.360 have done a lot better. But if people aren't connecting 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.000 the spend on renewables with the increase in their energy bills, 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.279 because they keep hearing this nonsense about renewables are the 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.520 cheapest form of energy, so many think if you invest 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:13.160 more in renewables, your bills would be lower, despite the experience. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.400 Now today, the new Labor Ministry was officially sworn into 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:22.080 office and Anthony Albernizi has demoted factional rival Tania Plyversex, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.360 sending her down the ladder from Environment Minister to Social 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:30.920 Services Minister. He promoted a close ally Senator Murray Watt 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.080 tox former position in order to finalize Labour's so called 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.600 nature positive reforms. And we've also got a decision on 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:45.640 the thirty four billion dollar Northwest Shelf gas project happening. Patrick, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.560 what do you make of this cabinet? It looks strong. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.360 It's people who are experienced. He's got a lot of 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.960 people very loyal to him. It seems like it's going 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.360 to be a very disciplined outfit. 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.240 Look, Murray, well it's got some challenges walking into that 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.840 environment role. He's going to make a decision on the 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.960 Northwest Shelf, I think in the next few weeks, and 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.320 that's a massive one. Whatever he decides on that, and 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.000 whatever government goes with is going to upset a lot 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:18.000 of people because it is so pitched that battle. Look, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.240 it's not surprising that Tanya Plupisek is one of the 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.280 big losers, if you like, of the election. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:24.040 In an internal sense. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.600 She's been demoted and I think look Elbow at the 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.160 moment is in a position where he can promote and 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.880 demote as he sees fit. He has such a mandate 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.840 given the election result, it'll be interesting to see how 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.760 those ministers go. But it was all about factional wrangling 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.480 and all the rest, which I find it's not necessarily 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.120 merit based, which I find disappointing. I mean, these people 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.520 are very important that you should have the best person 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:48.800 in each of the best jobs. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.439 Well, talking about merit, there's now talk of quotas being 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.360 introduced for the Liberals. Certainly Susan Lee in the past 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:02.600 has promoted quotas gendots. It's funny to be Patrick, we 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.920 never talk about other quotas. If you really want to 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.880 have a parliament that's representative of the community, you can't 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.720 just stop a gender quotas. You would have to have 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.000 all sorts of other categories. And we've got what one 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:18.240 point four million Chinese Australians. They're certainly not reflected in 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.960 the Parliament and every other innicity and minority group. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.320 Look, I think the Liberals have a massive issue with 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.960 women at the moment, putting aside quotas. I don't know 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.560 any woman under the age of forty who voted Liberal 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.240 to be honest, they did not appeal on any level. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.200 That is a big problem for the Liberal Party. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.160 So I was electing through a quotus is no females going. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.160 I don't think quotas are the way to go, but 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.640 it did not feel like a party that represented women's 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.920 best interests, especially with the work from home staff. Early 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:53.280 on in that campaign they alienated working mums, working women 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.760 in a way that really cost them deeply. So I 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.640 don't think quotas are the answer. I agree with you 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.960 on that, but they do need to be seen to 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.120 be making moves towards appealing to women. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:10.560 I don't know. I think women will gravitate towards strong 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.040 policies like men do. Maybe not in the same numbers 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.200 of men, but he actually give them something they vote for. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.880 As we saw with the Voice, they will back you. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.840 Now let's go to the UK briefly, where Labor Party 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.320 there has done a massive u turn on a number 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:29.960 of issues, including the country's open borders approach. It seems 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.760 that the threat from Nigel Faraja's Reform Party has British 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.160 Prime Minister Keir Starma talking like Donald Trump. Look at 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.400 what he posted on XCA. He said, if you want 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.480 to live in the UK, you should speak English. That's 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.520 common sense. So he's insisting on raising English language requirements 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.680 and he also posted this. He said, the Tories lost 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.560 control of our borders and let net migrations saw to 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:00.320 record levels, undercutting hard working Brits. I won't stand for it. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.200 I promised to restore control and cut migration and I'm 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:09.440 delivering with tough new measures British workers. I've got your back. Patrick. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.080 This is quite astonishing. You got the labor leader in 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.440 the UK, someone who was seen as far left by many. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.080 He seems to be more conservative, more right wing than 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.240 the Liberal leader in Australia right now. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.040 Look as he was posting those I think the Sun 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.720 newspaper in London was reporting that five hundred people had 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.240 crossed the English Channel that day, as he was actually 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.679 talking tough. And I think there's been twelve thousand people 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.760 crossing English Channel in small boats this year, landing in 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:43.280 England seeking refuge and a new life. It's all everyone 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.120 to talk tough, but it sounds very little too late, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:46.640 doesn't it. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:47.160 Really it. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.520 Does. And it's a matter of whether you actually think 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.559 there's any substance behind that retrick, because you don't feel 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.760 like labor actually believe any of this. Obviously, reform has brilliantly. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.800 They're doing amazingly in the polls. There was a recent 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.680 local elections and by elections where they did very well, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.240 So I think this is a reaction to that. And 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.280 isn't it funny that we were told that Trumpian politics 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.760 turned off Australian voters when we had a very smaller 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:22.080 liberal policy platform, and you've got Nigel Farage embracing Trumpian politics. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.600 I'm winning in the UK. Now before you go, I've 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.400 got an example of the far left attacking itself from within, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:36.360 this time involving radical feminist influences Clementine Ford and Abby Chatfield, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.600 who have been attacking each other on social media since 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.560 late last week. Over the weekend, it all got a 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.319 bit too much for Abby Chatfield. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.600 Please stop dehumanizing me. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:51.080 Please. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.080 You can criticize my content, you can criticize my work, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.960 just I'm begging you to stop lying about my intentions. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.920 I stop saying that I had a personality. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.280 You don't know me. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:12.319 I just wanted to stop now. The arouse stem from 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.160 an article Ford wrote on her blog last week lashing 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:21.400 Chatfield for profiting from the performance of being politically engaged 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.200 and presenting herself as a voice of feminists and political authority. 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:30.160 Called called a shallow and so she platformed genocide supporters. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.320 I think she's referring there to Abby Chatfield's interview with 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:38.600 Anthony Alban. Easy Ford then took to other social media 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:43.599 platforms to call Abby Chatfield fake as well as selfish 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.320 and ego centric. Patrick, I'll be covering this in more detail. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.320 He left is losing it. But what do you make 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:55.319 of this meltdown? You've got leftist feminist versus leftist feminist. 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.679 Well, you've got grand standards colliding with grand standards, don't you. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.120 And I mean I think that language platforming genocide. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.880 Supporters to this hyperbolic that sort of shows. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.480 You where this debate is taking place. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:08.200 It's all about. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:12.480 People who are Look, it's about they're playing the man, 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.760 I would say, but that's not the right way putting 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.400 it instead of playing the issues. Look, they're actually fighting 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.080 each other. It's sort of entertaining and quite challenging for 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.760 the rest of us. We look at this and what 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:23.560 the hell are you talking? 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.120 Well, those young female voters you were talking about, that's 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.960 the primary audience. Here and if that's the sort of 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.040 politics they're being fed you can kind of understand their 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.920 voting passions at Patrick Carline, Thanks for your time tonight. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.880 Joining me now is Women's Forum Australia's head of advocacy, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:46.320 Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie will start with Susan Lee, interested in 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.400 your reaction to her being elevated at two Liberal leadership. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.280 She is the first woman to ever lead the Liberals, 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.560 but she has a long history of either being on 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.400 the fence or being on the wrong side of major 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.160 debate when it comes to the gender issue. Is she 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.320 an advocate for women's rights or has she been captured 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:08.720 by the gender idea logues. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.480 Well, there's no indication that she's been captured by the 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.880 gender idea logs. But having said that, she's been relatively silent. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:18.160 On the issues. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.120 She's made no moves to defend women's sex based rights 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.720 on every front. She talks a lot about gender and 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:29.480 equality in the workplace, but as far as women and 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:33.240 their right to save sports and change rooms and domestic 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:37.960 balance shelters, she's been relatively silent. I think it's really 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.280 important that the Liberal Party doesn't go down the pathway 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.360 of quotas. The problem with quotas is that it'll pre 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.240 select the right type of woman. The people that are 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.760 pushing for quotas have said very little about the women 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.360 who are defending women's sex based rights, including the treatment 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.440 of moiradeeming, cath thieves, and many others. So I hope 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.240 that they avoid that minefield because I think it'll lead 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:03.320 to the destruction of democracy in the Liberal Party. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.920 Or what would happen if we did have a Liberal 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:13.040 party that was even more similar in its character and 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:18.359 its policies to labor. Would that make them more electable? 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.640 Are we really going to have the tyranny of group think? 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.800 I don't think it'll make them electable at all. 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:27.320 What will make them. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.720 Electable is having policies tackling difficult policies that the public 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.280 want to vote for. This election was a referendum on 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.400 the cost of living and the way that the debates 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.120 went and where the chips fell as they decided that 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.920 Albanezi with his five to eight grand cuts on hex 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:49.200 debt and the tax of the tax cuts won the day. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.560 So I think that they actually need to put their 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.120 heads together and come up with genuine policies. I mean 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.080 Susan was the Deputy leader when they came out with 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:58.120 the work from home policy. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.560 Shouldn't do anything to stop it. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.920 In fact, that policy was drafted by a former senior 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:07.480 Cabinet minister, So having more women there isn't necessarily going 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.919 to bring in more female voters. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:15.320 Or any voters across the board. You actually need good policy. Yep, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.000 it's all about the policies. Now. Let's talk about a 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:22.480 case out of South Australia. Thirteen year old transgender student 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.920 that is, a male who claims to be female has 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.679 prompted outrage from parents at a private Catholic school in 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.919 South Australia after breaking a number of records by huge 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:41.200 margin Stephanie competing in the girls' events at recent sports competitions. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.159 What else can you tell me about this case? 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.240 Well, this case has actually shed light on a range 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.400 of very concerning issues about the policies from the Department 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:56.639 of Education in South Australia and federally. More broadly, what's 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.080 come to light is that they've said that education of 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.640 rides the provisions in the Sex Discrimination Act to protect 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.840 single sex sports, but under South Australian education policy that 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.280 extends to change rooms and bathrooms. Now, this is a 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:15.360 K to year twelve school, so there is the likelihood 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.480 there is the risk that there will be situations where 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:23.199 at all school events you'll have senior male men who 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.120 are identifying as female students sharing change rooms and bathrooms 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.680 with little prep girls. Certainly in a setting where it's 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.199 K to year six in that primary campus, twelve year 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.800 old boys in year six with preppees. There's a huge 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.200 safeguarding issue here, and I think Peter mal Anawskis needs 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.959 to come out and explain why this is happening and 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.479 what they're going to do to address the issues of 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.240 safety for these young children. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.800 And also there has to be some accountability because I 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.720 hear from so many parents who've got similar issues, not 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:02.360 just around sport, but just ale bodies in female spaces 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.000 and all sorts of indoctrination that they see happening in 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.560 their children's school, and they are reluctant to bringing it 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.879 forward because they fear a backlash against their child or 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.680 their family. They don't want to have that drama. And 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.160 I think this is again an issue that so many 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.560 parents are grappling with Stephanie, but very few want to 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.760 make an official complaint because that comes with all sorts 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:28.760 of consequences. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.920 It certainly does. But more and more are coming out. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.240 I've noticed since Caroline Marx's documentary on sport last year 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.000 there has been an increase, whether it was netball in Victoria. 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.360 Now the parents are pushing back. This trans student broke 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:47.000 all the records last year and again this year and 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.200 now they're speaking out. So there is certainly a move 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.640 to speak out more. I'm also very encouraged that our 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.960 newest female senator in South Australia, Layer b Life, put 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.200 a press release out. She replaced Simon Birmingham when he 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:03.159 retired last year, and she criticized the comments of the 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.600 Education Minister in South Australia who defended the inclusion saying 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:12.360 it was more about sport and the inclusion of individuals 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.679 than anything else. And she said, well, what about the 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:19.280 expense of you at the expense of the girls losing 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.720 out here? And I'm paraphrasing her there. So I think 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.920 that there is more and more people are going to 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.560 talk back. I've had people reach out since I posted 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.640 about it online from other schools, particularly Catholic schools where 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.399 this is going on. So I think also the Education 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.240 Office needs to start answering some questions about what they're 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:38.240 allowing in their schools. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:44.000 Too surprising, it's happening at Catholic schools before you go. 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.520 The BBC has released a new series called I Kissed 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.360 a Boy, which is meant to be about two gay men, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.600 except the actor playing one of them is actually a 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:59.560 transidentified female. The LGB Alliance UK has said that by 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.840 doing this, they are telling young gay men watching the 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.879 show that they must be attracted to women who are 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.359 pretending to be male. That this is regressive, insulting and 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:13.800 homophobic in the extreme. Steph, what's your reaction to that, 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:18.480 because I do see this from many transactivists where they say, 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.560 if you're a man and you're not attracted to a 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:27.200 trans woman who is a man identifying as a woman, 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.960 then well you're being bigoted. You're almost obliged to be 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:35.080 attracted to somebody who's the opposite gender to who you 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:36.320 would normally be attracted to. 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.600 Yes, I think it's actually disturbing that the BBC are 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.720 playing into this narrative that you are engaging in some 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.360 sort of discrimination if you have a genital preference, which 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:48.920 is what they call it. And I think it's quite 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:53.640 dangerous and it sends a very bad message to young 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:56.800 people who are working through themselves and sorting it out. 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:01.320 They shouldn't have this extra layer of guilt, because Trans writes, 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.840 activists want to be over the head and say you 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.080 can't choose you know who you're attracted to. 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.119 Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time. Tonight 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.320 still to come. A lefty is a losing it Plus 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:21.040 a major development in the China US trade Wark Kosher 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:32.960 Gator has the latest. You're watching the Reader Panny Show, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.800 and it's time for lefties losing it And let's check 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.679 in with this charming lass. You know she doesn't have 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:43.280 to declare her politics. You know precisely how she votes. 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:51.880 I can help you talk to somebody he didn't you can? 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:58.439 I please call you an ambulance. I do hope that 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.280 is satire, but I think just another example of a 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:05.680 lefty losing it. Now to the worst vice president we've 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.920 had here is Kamala Harris being Kamala Harris. 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.040 And I was just telling somebody recently who did not 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.840 we perform free to be you and me? When I 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:21.359 sang about my friend William who's five years old and 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.160 wanted adult huggin hole. 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:30.680 I can sing the whole thing. She always seems a 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.800 little over refreshed, and we should know. Today is a 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:39.560 special dates, the anniversary of this great speech. The iconic 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.880 Coconut Tree speech was shared by Kamala with the world. 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.240 It was a gift really two years ago. How time 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.200 flies when you're unburdened by what has been. 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.760 My mother used to she would give us a hard 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.240