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Speaker 1: On scorn lives Austrodia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panning Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight, Coalition Climate wars on the horizon as Liberals

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Speaker 3: off for Susan Lee as leader. Patrick Carline will be

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Speaker 3: here to discuss the day's top headlines, including leftist feminist

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Speaker 3: agitators Abby Chatfield and Clementine Ford turning on each other.

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Speaker 3: Sippety Bastian will weigh in on the new liberal leader.

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Speaker 3: Is she a genuine women's rights warrior or does she

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Speaker 3: struggle to explain what a woman is? Kosher Gator will

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Speaker 3: have the latest on the trade war between China and

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Speaker 3: the US, and later in the hour they always droll

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Speaker 3: Alex Stein on the Trump administration taking on big farmer

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Speaker 3: and left. He's losing. It is a extra unhinged tonight.

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Speaker 3: I can help me talk to somebody.

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Speaker 4: He didn't you Entime tegal.

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Speaker 3: Rules Today voted in Susan Lee as their new leader,

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Speaker 3: opting for her over Angus Tail on a very slim

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Speaker 3: margin of twenty nine to twenty five, which saw Jacenterprives

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Speaker 3: decide not to run for deputy leadership. Are that left

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Speaker 3: ted O'Brien to defeat Phil Thompson quite comfortably thirty eight

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Speaker 3: to sixteen votes. Now on Susan Lee, we know she

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Speaker 3: added an extra s to her name because of her

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Speaker 3: belief in numerology. She has also done some massive backflips

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Speaker 3: on a range of issues, from Israel to the Voice referendum.

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Speaker 3: On Israel, she is a bit of a late convert.

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Speaker 3: She labeled Foreign Minister Pennywonk's criticism of the only Jewish

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Speaker 3: state disgraceful. Recently, but earlier in her political career she

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Speaker 3: took a different approach. In twenty eleven, she voted for

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Speaker 3: Palestinian statehood, saying a secure Israel demands a Bible Palestinian state.

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Speaker 3: The occupation's daily toll checkpoints, permits, lockdowns, home detention, settlement

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Speaker 3: expansion is exhausting the Palestinian people and are undermining hopes

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Speaker 3: for peace. And in two thousand and eight, she said

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Speaker 3: during Israel's sixtieth and adversary in Parliament that Gaza is besieged,

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Speaker 3: contained on the brink of starvation. She said, while we

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Speaker 3: celebrate Israel's remarkable achievements, the Palestinian people must not be

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Speaker 3: airbrushed out of existence. On the Crucial Voice referendum. She

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Speaker 3: was initially in favor before the backflip to the No side,

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Speaker 3: and only last year she was promoting the deeply flawed

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Speaker 3: activist gender wage gap report.

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Speaker 5: I'm pleased to see the scrutiny that is being applied

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Speaker 5: today with the release of this data to organizations in Australia.

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Speaker 3: My message to corporate Australia is it's not.

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Speaker 5: Good enough to have a morning tea and cupcakes and

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Speaker 5: pink icing.

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Speaker 3: Now let's bring in a senior News Corp writer, Patrick

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Speaker 3: Carly for his take on this issue. How do you

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Speaker 3: see at Patrick? The choice was between Angus Taylor Susan Lee.

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Speaker 3: Is this the rebirth of the Liberal Party?

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 7: Reeza.

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Speaker 6: Look, she's got the hardest job in politics at the moment.

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Speaker 6: She's going to seek to unite a party that managed

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Speaker 6: to alienate so many different parts of the community only

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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago with the election. The Liberal

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Speaker 6: Party doesn't know what it is, what it's trying to be,

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Speaker 6: and what it wants to be. And this this rebuild,

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Speaker 6: if you want to call it, that is going to

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Speaker 6: take months, if not years. She's going to be in charge.

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Speaker 6: She's traditionally a moderate. You talk about backflipping, but the

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Speaker 6: party managed to put off so many sections of the community.

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Speaker 6: What she has to try and do is sort of

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Speaker 6: present a party that listens to Australia and actually is

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Speaker 6: aware of what strands care about in a way that

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Speaker 6: it plainly did not coming into twenty twenty five. She's

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Speaker 6: got a really tough.

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Speaker 3: Job, she certainly does. And that job may be even

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Speaker 3: tougher if the moderate Susan Lee as Liberal leader sees

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Speaker 3: a split with the National Coalition because the issue of

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Speaker 3: energy is going to be crucial. If the National Party

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Speaker 3: walk away from their net zero commitments, that is going

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Speaker 3: to be quite a rift in the coalition. Certainly, if

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Speaker 3: Matt Canavan was elevated to leader, that would be happening.

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Speaker 3: But even David a little Proud has indicated that he

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Speaker 3: is not interested in this renewables only position. He just

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Speaker 3: does not see it as sustainable and it's not going

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Speaker 3: to power Australia.

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Speaker 6: Look, I think the timeline this is probably helpful for

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Speaker 6: somebody Susan Lee in this position. In the net zero

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Speaker 6: twenty fifty question has sort of got muddled in the

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Speaker 6: last few years by rising power prices and by growing recognition.

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Speaker 6: I think that the renewables dream is unachievable without fossil fuels.

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Speaker 6: And I mean, you've got all these sort of arguments

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Speaker 6: at the moment.

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Speaker 3: It isn't. But we are going to see labor be

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Speaker 3: even bolder in their emission targets. There's a huge push

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Speaker 3: from within labor, the very powerful climate lobby groups within

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Speaker 3: Labor are wanting to see them take a bolder position

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Speaker 3: really utilize this enormous election landslide. Can energy be the

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Speaker 3: debate point between the two parties? Because we had just

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Speaker 3: an election where many people wondered what the difference was

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Speaker 6: Look Ted O'Brien, who is Susan Lee's deputy, he was

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Speaker 6: the nuclear guy for the party.

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Speaker 3: He had listed a word about nuclear throughout the campaign

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Speaker 3: that was so.

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Speaker 6: Terrified it fell apart. That whole sort of notion of

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Speaker 6: nuclear as an alternative really did fall by the wayside,

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Speaker 6: didn't it. Throughout? Look, I think power bills are the

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Speaker 6: big question here. Are they going to keep going up?

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Speaker 6: Is it going to be because of renewable energy targets

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Speaker 6: that are unachievable. Look, the hip pocket drives a lot

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Speaker 6: more in terms of a voter sentiment than does saving

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Speaker 6: the world. The abstraction of saving the world, I think,

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Speaker 6: and certain those power prices really hurting people. I think

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Speaker 6: how those come down will have a huge bearing on

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Speaker 6: targets and thoughts.

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Speaker 3: But that argument really probably because we don't have a

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Speaker 3: coalition government that is strong enough to make these arguments.

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Speaker 3: And I've argued if they actually went to the election

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Speaker 3: campaign made it a referendum about energy policy, they would

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Speaker 3: have done a lot better. But if people aren't connecting

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Speaker 3: the spend on renewables with the increase in their energy bills,

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Speaker 3: because they keep hearing this nonsense about renewables are the

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Speaker 3: cheapest form of energy, so many think if you invest

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Speaker 3: more in renewables, your bills would be lower, despite the experience.

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Speaker 3: Now today, the new Labor Ministry was officially sworn into

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Speaker 3: office and Anthony Albernizi has demoted factional rival Tania Plyversex,

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Speaker 3: sending her down the ladder from Environment Minister to Social

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Speaker 3: Services Minister. He promoted a close ally Senator Murray Watt

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Speaker 3: tox former position in order to finalize Labour's so called

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Speaker 3: nature positive reforms. And we've also got a decision on

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Speaker 3: the thirty four billion dollar Northwest Shelf gas project happening. Patrick,

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Speaker 3: what do you make of this cabinet? It looks strong.

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Speaker 3: It's people who are experienced. He's got a lot of

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Speaker 3: to be a very disciplined outfit.

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Speaker 6: Look, Murray, well it's got some challenges walking into that

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Speaker 6: environment role. He's going to make a decision on the

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Speaker 6: Northwest Shelf, I think in the next few weeks, and

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Speaker 6: that's a massive one. Whatever he decides on that, and

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Speaker 6: whatever government goes with is going to upset a lot

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Speaker 6: of people because it is so pitched that battle. Look,

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Speaker 6: it's not surprising that Tanya Plupisek is one of the

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Speaker 6: big losers, if you like, of the election.

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Speaker 3: In an internal sense.

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Speaker 6: She's been demoted and I think look Elbow at the

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Speaker 6: moment is in a position where he can promote and

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Speaker 6: demote as he sees fit. He has such a mandate

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Speaker 6: given the election result, it'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 6: those ministers go. But it was all about factional wrangling

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Speaker 6: and all the rest, which I find it's not necessarily

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Speaker 6: merit based, which I find disappointing. I mean, these people

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Speaker 6: are very important that you should have the best person

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Speaker 3: Well, talking about merit, there's now talk of quotas being

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Speaker 3: introduced for the Liberals. Certainly Susan Lee in the past

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Speaker 3: has promoted quotas gendots. It's funny to be Patrick, we

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Speaker 3: never talk about other quotas. If you really want to

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Speaker 3: have a parliament that's representative of the community, you can't

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Speaker 3: just stop a gender quotas. You would have to have

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Speaker 3: all sorts of other categories. And we've got what one

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Speaker 3: point four million Chinese Australians. They're certainly not reflected in

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Speaker 6: Look, I think the Liberals have a massive issue with

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Speaker 6: women at the moment, putting aside quotas. I don't know

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Speaker 6: any woman under the age of forty who voted Liberal

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Speaker 6: to be honest, they did not appeal on any level.

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Speaker 6: That is a big problem for the Liberal Party.

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Speaker 3: So I was electing through a quotus is no females going.

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Speaker 6: I don't think quotas are the way to go, but

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Speaker 6: it did not feel like a party that represented women's

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Speaker 6: in a way that really cost them deeply. So I

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Speaker 6: don't think quotas are the answer. I agree with you

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Speaker 6: on that, but they do need to be seen to

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think women will gravitate towards strong

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Speaker 3: of men, but he actually give them something they vote for.

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Speaker 3: As we saw with the Voice, they will back you.

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Speaker 3: Now let's go to the UK briefly, where Labor Party

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Speaker 3: there has done a massive u turn on a number

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Speaker 3: of issues, including the country's open borders approach. It seems

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Speaker 3: that the threat from Nigel Faraja's Reform Party has British

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Keir Starma talking like Donald Trump. Look at

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Speaker 3: what he posted on XCA. He said, if you want

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Speaker 3: to live in the UK, you should speak English. That's

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Speaker 3: common sense. So he's insisting on raising English language requirements

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Speaker 3: and he also posted this. He said, the Tories lost

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Speaker 3: control of our borders and let net migrations saw to

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Speaker 3: record levels, undercutting hard working Brits. I won't stand for it.

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Speaker 3: I promised to restore control and cut migration and I'm

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Speaker 3: delivering with tough new measures British workers. I've got your back. Patrick.

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Speaker 3: This is quite astonishing. You got the labor leader in

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Speaker 3: He seems to be more conservative, more right wing than

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Speaker 3: the Liberal leader in Australia right now.

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Speaker 6: Look as he was posting those I think the Sun

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Speaker 6: crossed the English Channel that day, as he was actually

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Speaker 6: talking tough. And I think there's been twelve thousand people

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Speaker 6: England seeking refuge and a new life. It's all everyone

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Speaker 6: to talk tough, but it sounds very little too late,

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Speaker 6: doesn't it.

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Speaker 7: Really it.

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Speaker 3: Does. And it's a matter of whether you actually think

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Speaker 3: there's any substance behind that retrick, because you don't feel

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Speaker 3: like labor actually believe any of this. Obviously, reform has brilliantly.

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Speaker 3: They're doing amazingly in the polls. There was a recent

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Speaker 3: local elections and by elections where they did very well,

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Speaker 3: So I think this is a reaction to that. And

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Speaker 3: isn't it funny that we were told that Trumpian politics

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Speaker 3: liberal policy platform, and you've got Nigel Farage embracing Trumpian politics.

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Speaker 3: I'm winning in the UK. Now before you go, I've

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Speaker 3: got an example of the far left attacking itself from within,

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Speaker 3: this time involving radical feminist influences Clementine Ford and Abby Chatfield,

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Speaker 3: who have been attacking each other on social media since

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to stop now. The arouse stem from

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Speaker 9: It's all about.

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Speaker 3: Well, those young female voters you were talking about, that's

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Women's Forum Australia's head of advocacy,

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Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie will start with Susan Lee, interested in

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Speaker 3: She is the first woman to ever lead the Liberals,

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Speaker 3: Or what would happen if we did have a Liberal

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Speaker 3: Are we really going to have the tyranny of group think?

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Speaker 1: Electable is having policies tackling difficult policies that the public

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Speaker 1: So I think that they actually need to put their

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Speaker 3: Shouldn't do anything to stop it.

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Speaker 1: In fact, that policy was drafted by a former senior

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Speaker 3: it's all about the policies. Now. Let's talk about a

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Speaker 3: What else can you tell me about this case?

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Speaker 1: Well, this case has actually shed light on a range

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Speaker 3: And also there has to be some accountability because I

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Speaker 1: It certainly does. But more and more are coming out.

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Speaker 3: Too surprising, it's happening at Catholic schools before you go.

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Speaker 3: The BBC has released a new series called I Kissed

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's actually disturbing that the BBC are

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't have this extra layer of guilt, because Trans writes,

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Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time. Tonight

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Speaker 3: still to come. A lefty is a losing it Plus

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Speaker 3: a major development in the China US trade Wark Kosher

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Speaker 3: Gator has the latest. You're watching the Reader Panny Show,

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Speaker 3: and it's time for lefties losing it And let's check

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Speaker 3: in with this charming lass. You know she doesn't have

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Speaker 1: I can help you talk to somebody he didn't you can?

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Speaker 3: I please call you an ambulance. I do hope that

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Speaker 10: And I was just telling somebody recently who did not

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Speaker 3: I can sing the whole thing. She always seems a

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Speaker 3: It was a gift really two years ago. How time

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Speaker 10: My mother used to she would give us a hard

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Speaker 10: know what's wrong with you, young people. You think you

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Speaker 3: Now, this is a delicious little clash. Here is Candice

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Speaker 3: Owen's owning Jason Lee. Let's not complete it with being black.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise you would have to defend well, there's no there's

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Speaker 3: Why can't reach dollars or just be black? You gotta

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Speaker 3: I get it. I'm right I'm right. No, I don't agree,

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Speaker 2: If you're a woman in Australia and you think the

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Speaker 12: And support a rapist.

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Speaker 3: Just know that in your heart. No, but they now

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Speaker 2: They now think they are the majority, and they're so

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Speaker 2: uneducated that they think that because they're the majority, they

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Speaker 2: are right. They now have permission to be racist, transfer

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Speaker 2: they've mission to laugh about reproductive health and reproductive freedom.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you can believe it, she's more unhinged now

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Speaker 3: than back then because her fellow leftist feminist mad Greenie

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Speaker 3: Clementine Ford has criticized her for being shallow and profiting

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Speaker 3: from the performance of being politically engaged and presenting herself

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Speaker 3: as a voice of feminist and political authority. That's a

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Speaker 3: direct quote, strong words, and that had Abby in an

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Speaker 3: almighty meltdown. This is worse than when Trump won.

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Speaker 2: Stop lying about my character and my intentions. I get

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Speaker 2: it enough from Please stop dehumanizing me.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 8: You can criticize my content, you can criticize my work,

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Speaker 8: as I'm begging you to stop lying about my intentions.

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Speaker 2: I stop saying that I had a person now disorder.

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Speaker 3: You don't know me.

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Speaker 2: This is so triggering. I just wanted to stop.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no personality disorder there, and yes you must not

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Speaker 3: dehumanize those you disagree with. Abby, What good advice if

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Speaker 3: only you thought of that when you said conservative voters

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Speaker 3: have no empathy and that it's a good thing that

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Speaker 3: they're supposedly dying out.

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Speaker 12: You spoke to Adam Bandt today on the radio show

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Speaker 12: Thank You, Adam, loved you, love talking to you, And

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Speaker 12: I really am thinking that or hoping that in the

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Speaker 12: next like ten to fifteen years, as people who are

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Speaker 12: voting for Liberal Party literally die out and also like metaphorically.

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Speaker 3: Die out, literally die out, literally and metaphorically pretty dehumanizing,

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Speaker 3: I would have thought. But let's get back to this

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Speaker 3: left b left inspired meltdown, because of course you're the victims.

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Speaker 3: The victim.

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Speaker 2: Also, please, when I post about Palestine, stop using that

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Speaker 2: as a reason to cretect me more and say that

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Speaker 2: I'm performative or whatever. Please stop discouraging me from posting

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Speaker 2: about Gaza.

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Speaker 3: It isn't working.

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Speaker 2: You're discouraging others, and you're encouraging trolling of me. Please,

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Speaker 2: Like I, I'm just trying to do what I can

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Speaker 2: to help.

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Speaker 8: Like I just I don't understand why she's so out

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Speaker 8: of it on proving that I'm awful.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Ah, this pity party did not stop there, and the

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Speaker 3: heart of it is the accusation from Abby chat Phil

483
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Speaker 3: that Clementine Ford is sending her leftist trolls after her.

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Speaker 3: You know something leftists always do, but though they love

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Speaker 3: to dish it out, they're not so good at taking it.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm aware now of someone's spreading malicious lives about

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Speaker 2: me again and again and again and again and again,

488
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Speaker 2: because she claims to throw my intentions on everything, it's

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Speaker 2: it's I'm scared of her. Please stop, Clementine. I am

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Speaker 2: begging you to stop. You don't know me at all.

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Speaker 2: You're a stranger. I deal with so much every single day.

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Speaker 3: Oh love, you should see what a conservative woman with

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Speaker 3: a platform deals with every single day, including from the

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Speaker 3: likes of you and Clementine Ford and your ill informed

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Speaker 3: hate field, hordes of lifting losers. We don't go crying

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Speaker 3: about it. And I say this genuinely. If it's affecting

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Speaker 3: your mental health, then turn off your phone, log off,

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Speaker 3: go for a walk. Don't do this.

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Speaker 2: I deal with insults every single day. I do not

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Speaker 2: need it from you, because you know that when you

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Speaker 2: say it, you validated people on the left, and you

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Speaker 2: are encouraging control. You are risking my safety, and you

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Speaker 2: are faking my mental health. Please stop.

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Speaker 3: Yes, abuse from the left is another level avvy. But

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Speaker 3: let's not pretend you're not doing to Clementine Ford precisely

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Speaker 3: what she's done to you, and that is sending your

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Speaker 3: ill informed, bio filled fans to troll her. Now, the

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Speaker 3: fallout from Bernie Sanders disastrous interview with Fox News is

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Speaker 3: Brett Bauer continues, you know the one where the global

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Speaker 3: warming hysteric and socialists defended his use of private jets.

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Speaker 11: The only way you can get around to talk to

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Speaker 11: thirty thousand people. I think I'm going to be sitting

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Speaker 11: on a wedding line at United waiting. You know what,

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Speaker 11: thirty thousand people are waiting. That's the only way you

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Speaker 11: can get around. No apologies for that. That's what campaign

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Speaker 11: travel is about. We've done it in the past, We're

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Speaker 11: going to do it in the future.

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Speaker 3: Only problem is you're not in campaign mode. There's no election, Bernie,

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Speaker 3: and you're not the leader of the Democrats or the candidate.

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Speaker 3: You can line up and united with the rest of them,

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Speaker 3: and you know you've gone and stuffed up when even

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Speaker 3: CNN is mocking you tell me what the moment was

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Speaker 3: in that answer that you thought, oh, this.

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Speaker 13: Is going wrong. The United thing, you know, because we

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Speaker 13: all like, you know, you're a man of the people.

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Speaker 13: How dare I have to be with the people?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 13: That's what Look, it's a cheap question. It's a smart

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Speaker 13: alecky question. So it wasn't a serious question.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of trolley.

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Speaker 13: But his answer was terrible, Like you can't defend this answer. Hey, buddy,

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Speaker 13: we all have to stand in line.

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Speaker 3: We all have to do this.

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Speaker 13: Even if you have one key privileges, you're still standing

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Speaker 13: in line.

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Speaker 3: You still have to do this. You got to go

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Speaker 3: through security. Definitely came across as like I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to see Oh, Chuck Todd. He can't help himself. He

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Speaker 3: has to be a clown. How was that a trolley question?

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Speaker 3: A socialist taking private jets across the country should not

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Speaker 3: be held to account. Joining me now for more on

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Speaker 3: this is Skyneyese contributor Kosher Gata Kosher. That was not

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Speaker 3: a good performance from Bernie. And what can and pain

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Speaker 3: is he talking about? I mean, what sort of delusional

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Speaker 3: situation as he got himself into.

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Speaker 7: The sweet addiction of private air travel, it's hard to

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Speaker 7: give up. He's never going to give it up. You know,

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Speaker 7: we know we're all used to the hypocrisy with the

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Speaker 7: climate hysterics, as you say, whether it's him or Megan Marko,

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Speaker 7: Prince Harry al Gore Zogi, or the hypocrisy of socialists

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Speaker 7: like AOC and him. They just love the trappings of

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Speaker 7: capitalism and the confident of private air.

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Speaker 3: So we know that.

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Speaker 7: But I think the worst part for him was when

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Speaker 7: you let the mask slip and show the superiority complex, like,

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Speaker 7: you know, why should I stand in line with the

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Speaker 7: little people? So and so. Then even Chuck Tad, even

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Speaker 7: though he tried to throw a lifeline by criticizing the

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Speaker 7: questioner rat Bear, he had to admit it, as you say,

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Speaker 7: and he let the mask slip, and we're all here

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Speaker 7: to see it.

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Speaker 3: That's it, and it's United. If he's too good for

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Speaker 3: United it's not like he's getting on Spirit airlines. Not

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Speaker 3: that I would like to see now a cease fire

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Speaker 3: of sorts in the tariff flaws between the United States

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Speaker 3: and China. They have a great to a ninety day

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Speaker 3: truce and under this new agreement, the US will drop

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Speaker 3: it's one hundred and forty five percent tariff on Chinese

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Speaker 3: goods to thirty percent, while China is going to drop

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Speaker 3: its one hundred and twenty five percent tariff to just

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Speaker 3: ten percent. This is quite the development kosher.

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Speaker 7: It is now. It is a stop gap measure because

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Speaker 7: it's just a ninety day plause, not a resolution, So

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Speaker 7: we've got a lot of wood to chop. But it's

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Speaker 7: certainly a climb down back down from one hundred and

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Speaker 7: forty five plus percent. The thirty percent on China is

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Speaker 7: higher than historical averages, which used to be about three

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Speaker 7: percent pre Trump. In his first term he got about

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Speaker 7: nineteen percent, so it's tougher than that. But he's tying

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Speaker 7: it up with fentanyl and getting China to address the

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Speaker 7: fentinel crisis in some way, which is this whole China

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Speaker 7: wars as much about that as it is about the

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Speaker 7: trade deficits. So for now, on paper at least, there

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Speaker 7: seems to be alignment that they will do something about that.

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Speaker 3: But we shall see. But if we want to have

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Speaker 3: a significant economic realignment boost American manufacturing in this reliance

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Speaker 3: on China, particularly in so many crucial supply chains, it

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Speaker 3: can't be this. It has to be something that is

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Speaker 3: more impactful long terms. So do you still think that's

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Speaker 3: going to happen, or are we going to end up

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Speaker 3: with something similar to this as the long term.

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Speaker 7: It's a bigment question because there's six hundred billion in

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Speaker 7: trade between the two countries and he's trying to normalize

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Speaker 7: that and equalize that. I think we'll have to run

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Speaker 7: the numbers on if the thirty percent holds and some

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Speaker 7: of the supply chains recalibrate to Vietnam and other markets,

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Speaker 7: like what does that do? But I think you're right

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Speaker 7: that on the surface, to some people it does feel

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Speaker 7: like a little bit of a leaptown compared to, you know,

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Speaker 7: where the start was. But it could be that once

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Speaker 7: you run the numbers and some of those recalibrations happen,

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Speaker 7: it's moving the needle in the right direction, even if

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Speaker 7: it's not a full seating grease.

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Speaker 3: And isn't it funny all those Democrats who are obsessed

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Speaker 3: about the share market fluctuations and the drops, they're not

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Speaker 3: so obsessed now, and the share market seems to be

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Speaker 3: doing quite well now to some wonderful news with the

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Speaker 3: release of Israeli American Eden Alexander. The twenty one year

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Speaker 3: old was held hostage by her mass for more than

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Speaker 3: nineteen months Kosher. The release is seen as a good

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Speaker 3: will gesture towards the Trump administration in the hopes of

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Speaker 3: laying the groundwork for a new ceasefire deal. How do

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Speaker 3: you think that's going to work, because we are hearing

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Speaker 3: also about a rift between Nesshi Yahoo and the Trump administration.

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Speaker 7: Also a lot of wood to chop there. I think

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Speaker 7: it is being pitched as that he was a last

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Speaker 7: American hostage that was held. To Young's hopeworming footage, it

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Speaker 7: was fashioned to have him released before a Trump's upcoming

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Speaker 7: trip to the Middle East. That was done deliberately, so

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Speaker 7: it's like a good backdrop on the eve of that. However,

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Speaker 7: there is this rift. There's also a rift in the

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Speaker 7: Republican Party that's getting deeper about the US's position with

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Speaker 7: respect to Israel. And there are those who believe, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's their strongest ally and nothing should be stopping how

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Speaker 7: much a US gives to support them and this quest

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Speaker 7: and self preservation and sovereignty. There is another part of

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Speaker 7: the base that says, you know, you do what you

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Speaker 7: need to do, but we're not going to keep expending

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Speaker 7: military power, financial power, and even diplomatic power to support Israel.

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Speaker 7: And that faction seems to be ascendant and Trump is

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Speaker 7: really walking a tight rope in that, and then you

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Speaker 7: overlay on that the personality clashes supposedly between him and

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Speaker 7: that and Yahoo, it's Dacey, But I do think it's

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Speaker 7: is stuff in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are are at a fascinating point because there's

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Speaker 3: so many factors at play in Iran is of course

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Speaker 3: part of that equation, and Iran's exiled Crown Prince, Reza Pavlavias,

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Speaker 3: slammed Joe Biden and said that Donald Trump's pressure is

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Speaker 3: the best chance of regime change in Iran. He told

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Speaker 3: The New York Posts that Biden's reversal of Trump's sanctions

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Speaker 3: on Tehran emboldened the Islamus leadership. He said, the Iranian

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Speaker 3: people are trying to send this clear message to the

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Speaker 3: outside world that if you want a true partner in peace,

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Speaker 3: it is us who represent the alternative, not this regime

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Speaker 3: which has taken our country hostage in the first place

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Speaker 3: forty six years ago and continues to do that. And

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Speaker 3: it's not just take an Iran hostage, as we've discussed

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Speaker 3: so many times, Kosher, it's the number one sponsor of

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Speaker 3: terrorism in the region, and you can't really do anything

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Speaker 3: meaningful and long term about her mask or whatever's going

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Speaker 3: to pop up after her mask without addressing the Iranian issue.

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Speaker 7: And he the exiled prince, was the eldest son of

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Speaker 7: the last Shavaran before the revolution, so he has important

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Speaker 7: symbolic power of voice in this and that he represents

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Speaker 7: that point that the people were very moderate and don't

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Speaker 7: want this regime that's been presiding over them. It's also

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Speaker 7: very difficult to top though, because as he said, Biden

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Speaker 7: emboldened them. That's one thing. Many argue that even George Bush,

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Speaker 7: with the war, there are more embolden them because it

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Speaker 7: created this imbalance and allowed Iran to seep out into

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Speaker 7: the stop gate. At least that Iraq in some way,

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Speaker 7: not perfectly, but was putting against them. So there's many

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Speaker 7: things over here. Again, the US is very very wary

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Speaker 7: of getting involved in any way. I think Trump's favorite

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Speaker 7: mechanism is economic pressure and sanctions and things like that,

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Speaker 7: so I do expect to see him go hard on that.

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Speaker 7: But how much that will bring to bear remains to be seen,

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Speaker 7: because as the years take by, this regime is getting

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Speaker 7: more and more powerful, closer to nuclear weapons, and the picture.

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Speaker 3: Just gets striccier and getting closer to China and Russia.

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Speaker 3: It is a real balancing act for Trump, in particular

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Speaker 3: because he was elected on a landslide on America First policies.

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Speaker 3: They do not want to be involved in every war

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Speaker 3: around the world, so there isn't an appetite to get

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Speaker 3: involved in this. But they also have to acknowledge how

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Speaker 3: destabilizing Irani and as it's becoming more emboldened, particularly with

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Speaker 3: its nuclear program. How does he sell this to the

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Speaker 3: Republican base if he does need to have some sort

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Speaker 3: of involvement and some sort of investment in regime.

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Speaker 7: Change, It's a tough one. And regime change is another thing.

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Speaker 7: It's sort of become a dirty word in the US

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Speaker 7: because US fingerprints are all over many regime changes or

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Speaker 7: Vertley and Corvertley in the last half century. So I

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Speaker 7: think that's a tough one to the extent that he

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Speaker 7: can describe it as it is stabilizing and that has

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Speaker 7: repercussions back to things at home as simple as gas

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Speaker 7: process for instance. Given their role there, or terrorism or

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Speaker 7: security or things like that, then maybe there's a way

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Speaker 7: in there. But just a straight up regime changer, it's

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Speaker 7: going to be a tough one.

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Speaker 3: Now to the Trump administration's war against big Farma. I'll

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Speaker 3: have more on this after the break, but kosher. At

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Speaker 3: its heart, this policy is to ensure these multi billion

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Speaker 3: dollar companies are not price gouging in the US and

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Speaker 3: charging exorbitant prices in the US compared to what they

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Speaker 3: charge elsewhere in the world. RFK Junior was there to

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Speaker 3: trumpet this policy.

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Speaker 4: He can't be bought, unlike most of the politicians in

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Speaker 4: this country, and he is standing here for the American people.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you know. There's writers Lord Elizabeth

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Speaker 4: Warren or Robert Reich or saying that President Trump is

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Speaker 4: on this side of the olic arcs. There has never

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Speaker 4: been a president more willing to stand up to the

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Speaker 4: olck arks than President Donald Trump. And I'm very, very

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Speaker 4: proud of you, mister President.

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Speaker 3: He has a point there, Kohar. Trump cannot be bought.

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Speaker 3: Is the only president who's net worth actually dropped during

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Speaker 3: his presidency. And I guess that's one of the perks

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Speaker 3: of biling a billionaire.

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Speaker 7: That's definitely one of his superpowers. As the kids say,

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Speaker 7: because pharma is a very, very enriched and well funded industry,

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Speaker 7: and therefore there's a lot of lobbying dollars it flows

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Speaker 7: into Washington, and that's made it difficult nut to crack,

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Speaker 7: and you know he's going to that. The other thing, too,

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Speaker 7: is this strikes right at the heart of Trump's worldview,

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Speaker 7: which is the US has been ripped off by other

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Speaker 7: countries for so long as it relates to trade deficits

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Speaker 7: and tariffs, as it relates to underwriting security for the

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Speaker 7: whole world. And this is a big pillar the drugs,

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Speaker 7: because the US subsidizes drug R and D for the

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Speaker 7: whole world. All the innovation, all the patents that's very

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Speaker 7: expensive to attain, happen there. And then just the way

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Speaker 7: that the global markets ras structure and export laws and

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Speaker 7: all of that, they sell it ad dirt. Cheap crisis

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Speaker 7: generics can become available in other countries whereas the US

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Speaker 7: consumer has to pay three to ten times as much.

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Speaker 7: And that's what he's trying to undo here. But it'll

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Speaker 7: be challenged in court and elsewhere, so we shall see

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Speaker 7: how far it gets.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible like they even are finding a reason to

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Speaker 3: complain about this policy. You would think cheaper drug prices

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Speaker 3: would be something that could embrace like kosher Gaia. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for your time. Pleasure still to come. Democrats outrage by

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration taking in white refugees from South Africa

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Speaker 3: alex dying is up next, Welcome back. Now, President Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump is taking on Big Farmer by signing an executive

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Speaker 3: order to lower drug prices in the US.

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Speaker 9: Starting today, the United States will no longer subsidize the

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Speaker 9: healthcare of foreign countries, which is what we were doing.

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Speaker 9: We're subsidizing others' healthcare, and we're no longer tolerate profiteering

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Speaker 9: and price gouging from Big Farmer. But again, it was

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Speaker 9: really the countries that forced Big Farmer to do things

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Speaker 9: at Frankly, I'm not sure they really felt comfortable doing.

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Speaker 3: And in typical Trump style, you had a hilarious anecdote

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Speaker 3: explaining how much more Americans pay. Listen to this.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'll tell you a story. Friend of mine

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Speaker 9: who's a business man, very very, very top guy. Most

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Speaker 9: of you would have heard of him. A highly neurotic,

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Speaker 9: brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug.

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Speaker 7: Very successful, very rich.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but

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Speaker 9: because he's got comments at President, Could I ask you

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Speaker 9: a question. What I'm in London and I just paid

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Speaker 9: for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's

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Speaker 9: not working, he said, He said, I just paid eighty

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Speaker 9: eight dollars and in New York I paid thirteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 9: What the hell is going on?

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Speaker 3: The fat Shot? I love that. Joining me now is

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Speaker 3: comedian and host of Prime Time with Alex Stott. Alex

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Speaker 3: the fat Shot. That's what we've got to call a zamepick.

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Speaker 3: From now on, it has to be the fat Shot.

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Speaker 14: No, Rita, I love that name, the fat Shot. And

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Speaker 14: this is a stat that I just read and I

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Speaker 14: cannot believe it. You know, America spends the most money

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Speaker 14: on diets and diet fads and GLP one drugs like ozimpic.

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Speaker 14: Yet Americans still have the fattest biomass of any country

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Speaker 14: in the world. So it's kind of insane that we

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Speaker 14: spend the most on diet but also or the fattest country.

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Speaker 14: Make that makes sense, Rita.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy. And yet you've got Democrats, You've got

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Speaker 3: the usual suspects in the media who have raising objections

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Speaker 3: to this policy. How could you possibly be against Americans

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Speaker 3: paying lists for pharmaceutical drugs.

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Speaker 14: No, it's ridiculous Rita. And our healthcare system in America

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Speaker 14: is so overpriced. That's all people want. We don't want

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Speaker 14: free healthcare, we don't want to become Canada, but we

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Speaker 14: want drugs that we can afford because we have to

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Speaker 14: take them to live. So the idea that these companies

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Speaker 14: are able to price gouge it needs to stop, and

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Speaker 14: Donald Trump is putting an end to it. So God

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Speaker 14: bless Donald Trump for making a prescription pill more affordable

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Speaker 14: for Americans.

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Speaker 3: Now, the Trump administration is taking a small number of

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Speaker 3: refugees from South Africa, and rather than being congratulated for

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Speaker 3: this act of humanity, the administration is being attacked. Surprisingly,

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Speaker 3: among those enraged is the activist Bishop Marianne Edgar Budd.

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Speaker 3: You might remember her. She's the one who lectured President

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Speaker 3: Trump over his immigration policies on his inaugration day. Well,

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Speaker 3: the Gateway Pundit is reporting her church is ending its

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Speaker 3: nearly forty year partnership with the US government to resettle

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Speaker 3: refugees because the Trump administration is classifying white South African

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Speaker 3: Afrikanas as refugees refugees that need protection. Alex No, they

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Speaker 3: do need protection.

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Speaker 14: I mean, what's happening in South Africa is absolutely horrible,

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Speaker 14: and so just to see these people that are part

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Speaker 14: of a church that are you know, their whole ad

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Speaker 14: is charity, it's meant to help people. But because the

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Speaker 14: South Africa is having to be white, it's clear why

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Speaker 14: they don't want to help them. They don't want to

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Speaker 14: help white people. So it's just a form of reverse racism.

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Speaker 14: I mean a lot of people want to say the

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Speaker 14: systemic racism doesn't exist, but I hate to break it

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Speaker 14: to you, it does exist. In America in the sixties,

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Speaker 14: it was done against black people, and this modern day

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Speaker 14: era it's done against white people. And it sounds crazy,

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Speaker 14: but that's really the world we live in. That is

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Speaker 14: a refugee because they are white. We have people that

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Speaker 14: are part of a church that are refusing to help them.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it doesn't get more racist than that.

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Speaker 3: And there is just so much evidence of the way

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Speaker 3: they are persecuted and targeted and why they're in danger

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Speaker 3: in modern day South Africa. This is not some conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 3: That's something that has been reported on widely. We've talked

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Speaker 3: about on this program a number of times. Now. This

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Speaker 3: is a little more trivial than all that, and I

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Speaker 3: can't get enough of it, this Bill Belichick Jordan Hudson's story.

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Speaker 3: Alex I'm among the millions just who can't get enough

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Speaker 3: of this twenty four year old girlfriend of the legendary

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Speaker 3: seventy three year old football coach. Well, she fell short

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Speaker 3: in the Miss Main beauty pageant, placing third, and she

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Speaker 3: didn't look too happy about it. Alex Well, Rita.

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Speaker 14: I love when you asked me about American football because

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Speaker 14: this is a subject that I am an expert on.

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Speaker 14: In Jordan Hudson, she's twenty four years old, and right

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Speaker 14: now they're under a lot of scrutiny because it has

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Speaker 14: been revealed that potentially Jordan Hudson actually met Bill Belichick

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Speaker 14: and she was nineteen years old, and that's where she

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Speaker 14: first got his autograph. Of course, the CBS interview to

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Speaker 14: tried to ask about that, she got flustered and basically

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Speaker 14: shut down the interview. Now it's also coming out that

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Speaker 14: there's a famous ring doorbell camera footage, Rita, if you've

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Speaker 14: not seen it, of Bill Belichick shirtless, and supposedly they've

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Speaker 14: backtracked this and they figured out that this ring doorbell

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Speaker 14: footage was taken at one of Jordan Hudson's properties that

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Speaker 14: now she's able to afford. She has like an eight

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Speaker 14: million dollar real estate portfolio. So all I'm saying is

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Speaker 14: Jordan Hudson is probably taking advantage of Bill Belichick. That

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Speaker 14: is probably obvious. But listen, he's in his seventies. He

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Speaker 14: wants to be with a young woman. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 14: there's a price he has to pay for that. But

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Speaker 14: what I'm worried about Rita. And the last thing I'll

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Speaker 14: say is, I don't know if he'll ever get to

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Speaker 14: coach a game at UNC because the University of North

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Speaker 14: Carolina is not okay with what's happening. And I think

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Speaker 14: there's a good chance that he loses his job because

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Speaker 14: of this.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's destroying his legacy in this, and I hope

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Speaker 3: he's having a good time because it's costing him plenty

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Speaker 3: and more than just money. Alex Star and it's always

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Speaker 3: a pleasure. Thanks for your time, And that's it from May.

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Speaker 3: Up next is Newsnight. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow Night.