Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast today, and you're about to listen
Speaker 1: to episode one. After you finished, head straight over to
Speaker 1: episode two. Okay, enjoy.
Speaker 2: You know that's funny. The first time, the first time
Speaker 2: I ever met Josh m Brett, was it a nobs lynch.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? Oh? Yeah, I was like eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just before I saw my hose because
Speaker 3: I remember Cookie was there as well.
Speaker 1: Were rolling. I think this is good rolling. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: do it now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, first impressions of Josh were very highly made.
Speaker 2: I thought you were a very respectful young man and.
Speaker 1: Well mate, and that's what I said to him.
Speaker 2: I said, mate, I said, you know, I said mate, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said listen, I don't know much about rugby league,
Speaker 2: but I know one thing. The game will repay you
Speaker 2: back the heart of your work, and you keep out
Speaker 2: a kid, you'll do good things. He said, I played
Speaker 2: three hundred games.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 4: After that brief encounter as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you retired three years later, so he did.
Speaker 1: Remember Jackie got the dark Missed gets the dark miss
Speaker 1: You'll see you in there for no apparent reason, A
Speaker 1: dark cloud, red mist. It actually just descends on him,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he gets really really dark
Speaker 1: at that lunch and he turns remember that, Yes, irritable
Speaker 1: flesh gave even flesh gats mate, what's the matter with
Speaker 1: the young blow?
Speaker 2: Because I couldn't I couldn't drink.
Speaker 1: Oh no, jeez, it's so sorry about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's my cut Now back the hell man.
Speaker 1: Operation?
Speaker 2: What is this operation you're running? Josh? Sorry, mam, I
Speaker 2: cut out? Yeah, the do you know what? It's because
Speaker 2: we had the that's because I was at Storm there.
Speaker 2: We had the Grand Final the next day against the Roosters,
Speaker 2: so and I wasn't obviously playing. Yeah, but it shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been too much stress on you.
Speaker 5: But because they would have been, you would have been
Speaker 5: staying like where the core, Yeah, yeah, across the road
Speaker 5: from it, which is where the after party was at there, And.
Speaker 1: That's right exactly.
Speaker 2: So I think I was annoyed because I couldn't drink
Speaker 2: because we were on a team drinking band whatever that means,
Speaker 2: doesn't work. And they got beat anyway, And so I
Speaker 2: think that's why I was so filthy, Because everyone's having
Speaker 2: a good time, you know, it's like to be sober
Speaker 2: something like that and everyone's having fun and you feel
Speaker 2: like you can't. Every time you try to crack a joke,
Speaker 2: someone talks over here.
Speaker 1: We just left a little bit of space for you
Speaker 1: and gave us nothing. Who was lunch in that year?
Speaker 5: Josh Dave Gleason was Yeah, Yeah, he got the play
Speaker 5: scale and that was really good. He's his favorite player.
Speaker 5: Was my old boy as well, Slippery. He came up
Speaker 5: to me and Bretton said, love love your old boy.
Speaker 5: We said we love you as well. So that was
Speaker 5: a pretty cool moment. But I'd met him before as well.
Speaker 5: He actually played at bobcat Ryan's wedding and we were
Speaker 5: We played the Storm in Adelaide for a couple of
Speaker 5: years and I went to the toilet after the game.
Speaker 4: We're in the team room. I went to the toilet
Speaker 4: and came back and he was sitting there with a guitar.
Speaker 4: On the tour, he does his warm up to the
Speaker 4: bet he does that's the acoustics in the cubicle.
Speaker 5: Of Brian says the same. So he came back in
Speaker 5: the game. But I came back into the room and
Speaker 5: he's playing all these songs just acoustic.
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He's a massive Dragons fan, So Dragons fan and when
Speaker 1: we want the copy sort of like Knights as well,
Speaker 1: but mostly Dragons. Now, he was a growing up, he
Speaker 1: was a junior referee and linesman, and think about that now,
Speaker 1: like then became one of the biggest rock stars in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: There for a while, that's a scary there'd be a
Speaker 2: scary bike because he's quite a scary looking we call it.
Speaker 2: It looks a little bit like it looks a lot
Speaker 2: like a good career move.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, that's a that's a weird for bobcat Ryan like,
Speaker 2: it's a weird band to request like, it's a very Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know how it worked out because
Speaker 5: it's back in the day before you had all social
Speaker 5: media and whatnot, So I don't know how it worked out.
Speaker 1: But one of the just great man I was. I
Speaker 1: was down there with Cooper for Live Golf and he
Speaker 1: lives down in Adelaide Now I had a couple of
Speaker 1: days with him. It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Still his brain chemistry is a little bit off. I
Speaker 2: just want to also shout it because you're a South
Speaker 2: Coast boy. You grew up in Cayam, you were born in.
Speaker 4: I was born in Saint George. Cogo Hospital, Congo Hospital.
Speaker 2: What a hospital that is as well. I could talk
Speaker 2: for hours about Cogo Hospital. Yeah it is the Yeah,
Speaker 2: no it's good. But I was just down in Gerrengong
Speaker 2: and stopped through Kyamert went to the Grand Hotel.
Speaker 4: What a beautiful part of the world it is.
Speaker 5: When I first got to the Dogs, they were my
Speaker 5: third party sponsor at the Grand Hotel.
Speaker 4: So I used to.
Speaker 5: Go back to the Grand Hotel and do promos there,
Speaker 5: get on the piss with all my mates. It was
Speaker 5: the best I'd be beyond the bar like later at
Speaker 5: night born bits for me mates.
Speaker 4: It was the best ever.
Speaker 2: So were they respons? Are the Bulldogs?
Speaker 4: Yeah? They were.
Speaker 5: They were my third party sponsor, so as part of
Speaker 5: the contract I had between them, I had to go
Speaker 5: down and do a certain amount of You didn't have
Speaker 5: to pull me on to get me down there.
Speaker 4: I was down there all the time. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1: I had a third party from the South coast. You
Speaker 1: know what I'd like the blowhole. Oh, Matthew John's as
Speaker 1: sponsored by the Kyama blowho all hailed the blowhole.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: I was just saying to Jami was off air. I
Speaker 2: stopped through there on the way in Jarringong and the
Speaker 2: blowhole was just like it was blowing. It was in
Speaker 2: really good form because there was the it was coming
Speaker 2: in I think from the east, the wind and the northeast.
Speaker 2: It was coming in just a perfect traction into the
Speaker 2: hole squirting out and Mate, talk about yeah, sorry, there's
Speaker 2: a turn of phrase there I probably shouldn't use, but
Speaker 2: talk about a tourist attraction for Kayama. There were buses
Speaker 2: of people coming in to see it.
Speaker 4: Just mate.
Speaker 5: In summer there used to be like the main street
Speaker 5: used to take you like ten to fifteen minutes to
Speaker 5: get down in the car. It used to be an
Speaker 5: absolute punish because if the blowhole is working, everyone wants
Speaker 5: to go there.
Speaker 2: And I spoke.
Speaker 4: About off here.
Speaker 5: A couple of my mates used to jump into it
Speaker 5: and jump over the back of it and they'd wait
Speaker 5: for the buses to turn up when it was a
Speaker 5: bit of a smaller day and they'd be jumping and
Speaker 5: they'd be taking photos of them, going, oh, Superman, and
Speaker 5: they'd be posing, there's Superman in these photos with them.
Speaker 4: So it was a great place to grow up.
Speaker 5: And that footy ground is probably one of the most picturesque, yeah,
Speaker 5: in Australia, but it was a ship place to play
Speaker 5: in winter, especially if there was a southerly wind like
Speaker 5: you could you could hear the line drop out and
Speaker 5: go it'd go eighty of the full really dead, that's
Speaker 5: how strong the wind would be there.
Speaker 4: So you imagine that and a bit of rain. It
Speaker 4: used to be.
Speaker 3: Horrible and you can imagine talent scouts going down there
Speaker 3: and going this kid's kicking game. You've never seen anything
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 1: And yes, to a neutral ground there. Actually it wasn't
Speaker 1: as good.
Speaker 4: As he's had six forty twenties.
Speaker 1: Georgie Mimus just taking them out. I'll put this on.
Speaker 5: But there's plenty, plenty of talent that's come from down
Speaker 5: there that way. I mean when I was going up
Speaker 5: there was Rod wish Art and then Sewn Timmins who
Speaker 5: was a bit older than me, Like those are the
Speaker 5: types of blokes that we grew up idolizing because you
Speaker 5: know they were from Kimer and Jerry Gong and they
Speaker 5: were able to play in the NRL, so you could
Speaker 5: see that there was a pathway there.
Speaker 2: You know what's cool though about those A lot of
Speaker 2: because I was just down there was had to be
Speaker 2: with Rocket Rod or Throb and Rod as he's going by.
Speaker 2: Now that's really apparently. Yeah, everyone's calling him Throbin.
Speaker 1: Does he do the pilates like like son tyrannt.
Speaker 2: Uh No, No, he's not quite as flexible as his
Speaker 2: son Tyrant. Yeah, there's a you wouldn't have heard this, James,
Speaker 2: but there was a there's a rumor going around and Buzz.
Speaker 1: Rockdale explain the genesis of all of this.
Speaker 2: So when we're doing the Family podcast, back when I
Speaker 2: was playing at Melbourne. In a throwaway comment once, I
Speaker 2: said that I caught Wishy in his room like trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, I guess, perform selfish on himself and that
Speaker 2: every day at training he like and daddy goo Wishy
Speaker 2: update and I go, oh, he's he's been had his ham,
Speaker 2: he's worked on this week. He had some accupuncho. He's
Speaker 2: got an extra inch but he just quite can't get
Speaker 2: there yet. Anyway, this is before he This is before
Speaker 2: Wish even Dave and then Wish he Dave booded and
Speaker 2: then Mate. The fans just targeted him. People just sledged
Speaker 2: him because back then you had to. It was even
Speaker 2: covid so some of the players who eight and ninety,
Speaker 2: but also the ball boys, so we should be on
Speaker 2: the sideline people going goes, what are you doing on
Speaker 2: a go on the sheds and suck yourself off.
Speaker 4: And then she goes and he's too nice.
Speaker 1: Hands why he probably would do that, and he's irresistible
Speaker 1: even for himself.
Speaker 2: And then Tyron goes, hey, look, I love love the stuff,
Speaker 2: but do you reckon? You can stop the you know,
Speaker 2: the flexibility stuff, because people are starting to go off
Speaker 2: to the family of Jerry going like sweet, no worries.
Speaker 2: And then we stopped doing it all together. But then
Speaker 2: the listeners didn't stop. They went it was Wikipedia's page
Speaker 2: and started changed his name to Tyron. The contortionists wish.
Speaker 4: Wikipedia is still undefeated.
Speaker 2: So I love how Wikipedia, even after all these years,
Speaker 2: you don't need to have some sort of verification to
Speaker 2: edit anyone's Wikipedia. You can just go in there like
Speaker 2: whatever you want.
Speaker 5: Well, a couple of players used to change their birthday,
Speaker 5: and I think Jeremy Smith did it, and Chris Irrington
Speaker 5: a couple of years at the back end of their
Speaker 5: career kept on changing.
Speaker 2: Their age, change their height.
Speaker 4: That's what Gal does. G says he's one hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty two centiments funk Off.
Speaker 1: I was explaining to the boys, Josh like growing up,
Speaker 1: so what year were you born? Eighty six? Forty this year,
Speaker 1: so you're out, you like being I've seen your dad's
Speaker 1: career as a kid.
Speaker 4: Nah, Like I barely remember.
Speaker 5: Like he was at the Roosters when when we were retired,
Speaker 5: and when he retired and would have been about three
Speaker 5: or four. I can still remember little parts of him
Speaker 5: interacting after the match with fans and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But in turn of his footy, no, I don't remember it.
Speaker 5: But he had this tape and it's on YouTube now
Speaker 5: if you if you google his name, you'll see this
Speaker 5: tape of all his tries. That's what we had, and
Speaker 5: we would watch on repeat, Me and Brett would just
Speaker 5: sit there and watch it.
Speaker 1: He it was a real cult figure when he hit,
Speaker 1: you know, because I remember it's funny he went through
Speaker 1: he sort of crossed over two eras, yeah, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: So he crossed over the era where the half back
Speaker 1: was sort of fast ducker and data. It was placed
Speaker 1: by Steve Mortimer and whatnot, Billy Smith before that, and
Speaker 1: he was that and then all of a sudden when
Speaker 1: the game started to become a little more strategic and
Speaker 1: they wanted something different from the halves, they moved him
Speaker 1: to the.
Speaker 4: Wing, pass and tackle.
Speaker 1: As I was doing that last thing, and I really
Speaker 1: run your old man down here.
Speaker 2: You tried to do it in the most respectful way.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a game change.
Speaker 5: We don't let him let him miss out on that one.
Speaker 5: And it's it's quite funny because he scored one hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty something tries, and you know that when we
Speaker 5: first started playing first grade, I was like, oh, will
Speaker 5: we ever get to beat Dcord? And then Brett beat
Speaker 5: it and he rang him up and said, how does
Speaker 5: it feel to be the second top triscra? So I've
Speaker 5: been waiting for this and then it took me probably
Speaker 5: about three or four years later to get to it finally,
Speaker 5: and he goes, I've been fucking waiting for this. How
Speaker 5: does it feel to be the third best triscre in
Speaker 5: the family? So yeah, good, good little record to hang
Speaker 5: out hat on there, and it's probably a record that
Speaker 5: will stand for a long time.
Speaker 1: I imagine, I reckon, I readon. It will do you
Speaker 1: in retirement, We'll coop'll do it there like a bit
Speaker 1: of retirement then go back through the career. I just
Speaker 1: want to ask you there when you were talking like
Speaker 1: about to hit forty, how did you find retirement? At first?
Speaker 1: I can end up in the media doing stuff well.
Speaker 5: To start with, I was on the tools for about
Speaker 5: eighteen months. I finished my carpentry trade in the last
Speaker 5: two or three years while I was still playing, so
Speaker 5: i'd go to take Me and Brett both did it
Speaker 5: Tuesday Wednesday nights for three years. And then once I finished,
Speaker 5: I had a couple of mates that were builders, so
Speaker 5: I just jumped on the tools and helped out there
Speaker 5: for a little while. And then kind of it's got
Speaker 5: by chance that Levy Mark Leeby text me and said, oh,
Speaker 5: we've got a spot coming up on our Saturday show,
Speaker 5: would you like to jump in? And I did it,
Speaker 5: and then he said, oh that was really great, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah, And then a couple of weeks later I
Speaker 5: got on again, and then it kind of slowly ended
Speaker 5: up me at the end of the year getting a contract.
Speaker 5: And then it's been four years now since I've started
Speaker 5: on the radio. So I'm very grateful for him doing that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just it's just it's it's not like
Speaker 5: a job like I said, like, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 5: worked hard for that, probably twelve to eighteen months on
Speaker 5: the tools, and I reckon. I had more injuries on
Speaker 5: the tools, and I had playing for fifteen years.
Speaker 4: Made no. I fell off a ladder.
Speaker 5: I was trying to shoot something into one of the
Speaker 5: hangars and the ladder went and because there was a
Speaker 5: window in front of me, I've kind of hooked the
Speaker 5: ladder and pulled it back that way. But as I've
Speaker 5: done that, I've dropped my nail gun and turned over
Speaker 5: and just shredded me straight across me study And then
Speaker 5: a brick landed on my head because I was I was,
Speaker 5: I was cleaning the floor around this ladder and one
Speaker 5: of the one of the brickies left it on there
Speaker 5: and it just hit me straight on the top of
Speaker 5: the forehead. But I saw him the next day and
Speaker 5: I said, mate, don't come near me. And he thought
Speaker 5: I was joking. I said, mate, I'm not joking. If
Speaker 5: you come near me, I'm going to knock you out.
Speaker 5: Any gays all right, I think I'm just going to
Speaker 5: go to this other job boys around the corner. But yeah,
Speaker 5: but I enjoyed that kind of stuff as well, because
Speaker 5: it was hard labor and you're part of a team again,
Speaker 5: and that's something that you miss when you retire. Obviously,
Speaker 5: the locker room and spend it all day with your
Speaker 5: mates and talk and shit, and I guess that kind
Speaker 5: of has similar traits to being in the footage side.
Speaker 4: So I did enjoy it. But yeah, I'm kind of
Speaker 4: happy the media stuff has kicked off.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine sometimes people you know, books and
Speaker 1: work and you turn up with the crew and they
Speaker 1: got you know, like.
Speaker 5: Josh, you must have gone ship with his whatnot, But no,
Speaker 5: I didn't. I just enjoyed the kind of physical labor
Speaker 5: and the hard work and I guess earning the beer
Speaker 5: at the end of the week.
Speaker 1: And you know what you just said there, That's how
Speaker 1: it sort of used to be. Players would you know,
Speaker 1: through their careers, boys they would they would play and
Speaker 1: literally the game, the rugby league thing was secondary the
Speaker 1: full time workers and another teacher football was teaching your
Speaker 1: dad and what you do if you owner butcher shop,
Speaker 1: or let's say for instance, you're a bill and whatnot.
Speaker 1: How you've got benefits from that was People would look
Speaker 1: and go oh mate, Josh Morris carpentry mate, We'll get him.
Speaker 1: So that that was the benefit of being a rugby
Speaker 1: leaue player, not so much what you're I.
Speaker 2: Was watching a game once and then I can't remember
Speaker 2: who's but the winger scored, and then it come up
Speaker 2: like you know, his age, weight and his occupation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was a teacher or a carpenter.
Speaker 5: Yes, And it's quite funny these days because I run
Speaker 5: into a lot of people because dad taught in Sydney
Speaker 5: for a long time before he moved down the South Coast,
Speaker 5: and I'll bump into a lot of people and they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: your dad taught me the same.
Speaker 1: Question prostitutes now of course, Okay.
Speaker 4: Was he a good teacher, No, not really, but he
Speaker 4: was fun. I think it just if it rained.
Speaker 5: He just used to put on like the Simpsons or
Speaker 5: the movies, or he'd put on games of himself.
Speaker 4: They just sit there and watch. So they didn't learn anything. Well,
Speaker 4: they had fun.
Speaker 1: More mana Veil Primary School Public school. The groundsman at
Speaker 1: man of our public school was Faddy Vaughton and the
Speaker 1: math teacher was Johnny Gibbs. Of course they're best mates,
Speaker 1: so what they used to do. Sometimes you just go fat,
Speaker 1: just get the incinerator going. They just like. And then
Speaker 1: in the meantime Faddy would sit underneath like the window
Speaker 1: of Gibbs his class and gives you to have one
Speaker 1: ear at the window and they listen to the races
Speaker 1: all day. Oh really, none of my kids can read
Speaker 1: or right, but he said, they're now it's six to
Speaker 1: four on me.
Speaker 2: What But how you enjoying the continuous call team?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, mate, it's great fun. Like I said, it doesn't
Speaker 5: feel like a job. And I guess I've been a
Speaker 5: fan of foot in my whole life, Like just because
Speaker 5: I've played it doesn't mean like as a young kid,
Speaker 5: if there was a good game on, like I was
Speaker 5: a massive Dragons fan. But if there was a good
Speaker 5: game between two good sides in form, I would love
Speaker 5: sitting there and watching it.
Speaker 4: And that hasn't stopped. Like I would even while I
Speaker 4: was playing. I would watch most games every weekend and
Speaker 4: I still watch most games on the weekends.
Speaker 5: And I try and palm it off as work for
Speaker 5: the missas so the kids leave me alone. But no,
Speaker 5: I've just been a fan of football, absolutely love it,
Speaker 5: and like I said, it just doesn't feel like a
Speaker 5: job when you're talking about something that you've done your
Speaker 5: whole life. And I guess the way that we do
Speaker 5: it is we we try and explain it in as
Speaker 5: simpler way as possible and dumb it down for the
Speaker 5: listeners so that they know exactly what we're saying. I
Speaker 5: guess because you know, we can pick up on the
Speaker 5: little tendencies that plays do when they misread something in
Speaker 5: defense or if they something comes off well in attack,
Speaker 5: like we're able to pick up that straight away and
Speaker 5: deliver it quickly and simply.
Speaker 4: So I enjoy that part of it as well.
Speaker 5: And it's something that when I first started of you
Speaker 5: don't realize how short a time you have to say
Speaker 5: something real quick. So you've got to try, and you've
Speaker 5: got to try and have like quality over quantity yep.
Speaker 5: And that's something that probably I have worked on throughout
Speaker 5: the last four years to try and get better at,
Speaker 5: and it's something that I enjoy.
Speaker 1: It's only like I find, Josh when at times then
Speaker 1: they asked me to commentate, I'll get there. And I
Speaker 1: find with commentary is if you try to talk while
Speaker 1: the game isn't play, what happens is you start to
Speaker 1: accelerate in your talk as the game accelerates, If that
Speaker 1: makes sense, I just tried to. I've sort of resigned
Speaker 1: myselfs to the fact I go, you know what, that
Speaker 1: part of I'm not good at what I'm good at.
Speaker 1: When the ball rolls in touch, I can turn my
Speaker 1: co commentator and just have a normal conversation. That's what
Speaker 1: I find the uses. But it is very, very difficult
Speaker 1: to start to work out, you know, when should I
Speaker 1: jump in, when should shouldn't I.
Speaker 5: And especially at sideline as well, because when you're at sideline,
Speaker 5: and you'll probably agree with this, you've only got about
Speaker 5: twenty seconds. But what they've said, they've done the try.
Speaker 5: The commentators called it, then the co commentators broken it down.
Speaker 5: But then they go to the sideline and you've got
Speaker 5: to try and come up with something different. And they've
Speaker 5: both talked about as well. Yes, so you can sometimes
Speaker 5: find that.
Speaker 2: Further injury update, my first week, I acted like my
Speaker 2: headphones weren't working just because I was that like, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're trying to think, if they come to me
Speaker 2: the next five minutes, what am I going to talk
Speaker 2: about it? You're constantly trying to figure out and I
Speaker 2: had nothing, nothing, and they spoke about everything and I
Speaker 2: just and they were looking down and I was just gone,
Speaker 2: like that, I think we're having some technical difference, but
Speaker 2: I could hear it and my mic was working fine.
Speaker 2: I was just that stressed in what I had to say.
Speaker 1: But the amazing history that style of radio when it
Speaker 1: comes to rugby league, it was two yu Wi, two GB,
Speaker 1: back to two yui, sort of backwards and forwards who
Speaker 1: ran it? And it started, like Ray Hadley says this
Speaker 1: all the time, he started the continuous call. But the
Speaker 1: predecessors were the pioneers of it, which was Peter Peters
Speaker 1: and Greg Hardley, Hollywood and Zorba. And in the eighties
Speaker 1: it was it was a revelation because before that you
Speaker 1: had guys legendary old old callers like Frank Hyde and
Speaker 1: be five to three and they go, welcome to the
Speaker 1: scug today, and whereas Hollywood and Zorba would go on
Speaker 1: at midday and take you right up to the game.
Speaker 1: And in a lot of ways, the game got in
Speaker 1: the way for the entertainment. And then of course Hadley
Speaker 1: took over at two yu wi and then moved out
Speaker 1: to GB. What's funny about it, mate, when it was
Speaker 1: Hadley both of Fulton, there was for White, there was Gibbsy.
Speaker 4: Big Mark yeah big.
Speaker 1: And you also had a blow there. Peter f Lingos,
Speaker 1: who was an iconic journalist at the time, like the
Speaker 1: buzz of his time, and what they were they for
Speaker 1: use of a better term, mate the mate. I won't
Speaker 1: say they're a scary group, but you didn't fuck with
Speaker 1: them if in fact with one of them. And I
Speaker 1: remember once we played a game, Josh, We're playing Sharks
Speaker 1: at home and Joey there was talking the newspaper that
Speaker 1: Joey is going to get sacked from Origin and Peter
Speaker 1: f Lingos is in the crowd. Now he just quoted
Speaker 1: a selector and I said in the press conference anyone
Speaker 1: who thinks Andrew Johns should be dropped from the new
Speaker 1: South Wales side obviously know nothing about football, right. And
Speaker 1: what happened is few of the journos turned it chippy
Speaker 1: for Lingos, so he took it personally anyway. One of
Speaker 1: the other journals said, this is a message from Chippy.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it to you for the next month,
Speaker 1: so mate, literally for the next month. They just zeroed
Speaker 1: in on me and just gave it to me, gave
Speaker 1: it to me, gave it to me, just relentlessly. Then
Speaker 1: after the he goes, are we square?
Speaker 2: And I said, yes, yes we are. It's like a
Speaker 2: biking game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it was like a mafia, you know, if
Speaker 1: you pulled. If you pulled, Bozos, tell them Bozo Hadley
Speaker 1: or any of them made that after you. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, they tell a couple of good stories about Bozo
Speaker 5: about how if there was like they used to always
Speaker 5: get food and stuff delivered, and they'd have products delivered
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 4: And it'd just been disappear.
Speaker 5: And then they'd open up the back of Bozo's car
Speaker 5: and there'd be platters of a lawn in there, like
Speaker 5: whatever was going he would get it first before anyone
Speaker 5: else did. And then even one day, I think the
Speaker 5: big Man had his name on a pie and he'd
Speaker 5: written Levy had his name on a pie. Sorry, and
Speaker 5: he'd written his name on it, and he's gone to
Speaker 5: get it and he couldn't find it. And then Bozos
Speaker 5: called in and goes, well, have I got Levy's pie
Speaker 5: with me?
Speaker 1: It's just ruthless, ruthless. He was a coach. But Tea
Speaker 1: what Jeezy was a great coach. Ye to go away
Speaker 1: on tour. He was a great coach because, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of coaches get they they mark it up.
Speaker 1: They take a touring team away to England after the
Speaker 1: end of a long year and they try to make
Speaker 1: it two technicals and serious both. I had the perfect mix.
Speaker 1: And he had a really game player that was simple,
Speaker 1: so he didn't need to be trained all the time
Speaker 1: and working. But mate, he loved a row it when
Speaker 1: we left. Honestly, the amount of jerseys Kendrick. He went
Speaker 1: to Canterbury Clothing and he said, mate, we need twenty
Speaker 1: sets jerseys. Apparently they were what mate, we needed seven
Speaker 1: or eight sets. But what he'd do is he distributed
Speaker 1: the mountains. I go around all the shops and Ludes
Speaker 1: and Barta. So you go into a shop at Lads
Speaker 1: with assigned to strange jersey and go what can I
Speaker 1: get and they give you a thousand dollars worth of
Speaker 1: gear and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: It was just the greatest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd let you guys do it.
Speaker 1: He'd do most of it. Him and Terry Hill, both
Speaker 1: of them, both of them passed now they both do it.
Speaker 1: But they distributed some out and go here, like Terry
Speaker 1: goes he maye here take this down Cadalut's football clubs.
Speaker 1: So you go down to the soccer club at.
Speaker 4: And back in those Leeds were big.
Speaker 1: They were huge. But even when you go down to
Speaker 1: the cycle club like that, go oh mate, the kangaroos
Speaker 1: are here. Can you believe that? Even the Premier League players.
Speaker 1: So I'd be like, oh mate, you know they give
Speaker 1: your tickets to the game and you'd swap jerseys. That
Speaker 1: was just all boz.
Speaker 2: It was whatever, right, a state of origin period. At
Speaker 2: the moment Jaylen's you played in I would say one
Speaker 2: of the most you know, one of the best State
Speaker 2: of Osan sides we've ever seen in Queensland. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you know you and your brother Brett, we're two standout
Speaker 2: consistent players always finished South Wales. What was it like
Speaker 2: coming up against that Queensland side, you know, camp Smith, JT,
Speaker 2: Darren lockeer Billy Slater. What was that like?
Speaker 4: Look like it was it was a tough time.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know they won, they had won eight
Speaker 5: in a row up to twenty fourteen, but like you
Speaker 5: didn't play in all those series, but you felt that pain,
Speaker 5: you know, like that waiting, that expectation to try and
Speaker 5: finally break the series, and you look at their side.
Speaker 5: There'll be players at Hall of Famers and mortals out
Speaker 5: of that side, and you basically knew that you had
Speaker 5: to you had to play pretty much a perfect game
Speaker 5: of footy to beat them, like they weren't going to
Speaker 5: give you anything and if you stuffed up early on,
Speaker 5: they were going to make you pay. So in twenty
Speaker 5: fourteen Lows took over as coach and we had a
Speaker 5: catch cry pretty much from the start. We had a
Speaker 5: camp early in January and it was whatever it takes,
Speaker 5: like we'd had enough. There was like a lot of
Speaker 5: tension between both sides at that stage. We went away
Speaker 5: on a kangaroo tour, there was still tension there. That
Speaker 5: was twenty thirteen, twenty twelve. There was a test at
Speaker 5: the end of the year where the Australian side won
Speaker 5: and they sung the Queensland side.
Speaker 1: I remember that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: So that got a lot of the Blues players off
Speaker 5: as well, and a few of us got bagged about
Speaker 5: having the shits about.
Speaker 4: It and we were just like, it's not the right
Speaker 4: thing to do.
Speaker 2: Austra in side they do they do they check with
Speaker 2: the new so Wale size that were in that Australia
Speaker 2: the news players that were in that Australian side, did
Speaker 2: they sort of have a discussion with them or they
Speaker 2: just sung it and it was just.
Speaker 5: It was just sung and then all the all the
Speaker 5: boys just kind of looked at each other and went,
Speaker 5: we're not singing this.
Speaker 4: And then even that night we.
Speaker 5: Went to dinner and there was a New South Wales
Speaker 5: table at Queensland table, Like that's how that's how bad
Speaker 5: it got at this stage. So that fourteen series, that's why,
Speaker 5: like it was such a great series for us, because
Speaker 5: if you go back and look at that game one,
Speaker 5: because the hundredth Game of Origin, other beats and had
Speaker 5: just passed away. They'd retired his jersey for the night.
Speaker 5: So Queen's n came out and said, we're playing for Artie.
Speaker 5: You know, we're going to get this win. And we went,
Speaker 5: all right, well that's good, but you know we've been
Speaker 5: We're going to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 4: We're going to show you.
Speaker 5: How much this jersey means to us, how much Origin
Speaker 5: means to us. And then obviously what happened off the
Speaker 5: back of that Brett broke his shoulder.
Speaker 4: Score in the trip, I stayed on the field, I.
Speaker 5: Hurt my knee and then got up obviously off the
Speaker 5: ground to get Gi and that tackle a lot of
Speaker 5: say I'm off side, but you're going to know the
Speaker 5: rules to play the rules.
Speaker 2: So that was the same game whenause I remember Brett
Speaker 2: even later in the second he broke the shoulder in
Speaker 2: the first time the trysaver on Daris.
Speaker 4: Boy right at the end.
Speaker 5: Yeah so, and in that game as well, Chocky Watow
Speaker 5: ruptured his bicep and then at full time Bo Scott
Speaker 5: was in the shed's collapse with exhaustion. And if you
Speaker 5: remember that game, the whole second half we're pretty much
Speaker 5: on our trial line and even Gus Good in the
Speaker 5: commentary was saying, oh, they're going to break him here,
Speaker 5: They're going to break him here, They're going to break
Speaker 5: him here. But we managed to win that game, and
Speaker 5: that was probably one of the toughest games of footy
Speaker 5: Hall played. But the most rewarding as well was sitting
Speaker 5: in the sheds after the game. I don't Reckon Laurie
Speaker 5: talked for twenty minutes because everyone was just down. It
Speaker 5: was like a hospital or there were ice packs on everyone,
Speaker 5: but everyone had this big grin on their face.
Speaker 4: Just how good is that? Because we knew if we
Speaker 4: could get back.
Speaker 5: Down to Sydney we'd have a chance of wrapping up
Speaker 5: the series there because we had to go up and
Speaker 5: play Game three at some uncurt so we knew if
Speaker 5: we lost the first one we'd be right up against it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, that was that was really rewarding. And then
Speaker 5: obviously we won Game two and then I think we
Speaker 5: pretty much partied for the.
Speaker 4: Next three after that job done accomplished.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting you say that, Josh, because one
Speaker 1: of the things that Queensland always win is the battle
Speaker 1: of the build up. They win the battle of the narrative.
Speaker 1: So regardless who's in the side and how great the
Speaker 1: side is, whether it's Wally Lewis camera and all of
Speaker 1: those plays, they paint themselves. They're successful, always painting themselves
Speaker 1: as the down trot, the underdog, and we're going to
Speaker 1: go after them. But what you've said is going away
Speaker 1: on that tour and new blokes have been witnessed to
Speaker 1: what happened, you blokes come back and always won the
Speaker 1: battle of the narrative, you know, like We're going to
Speaker 1: make these blokes who put shit on us, we're going
Speaker 1: to square up on them. It's a really interesting one
Speaker 1: that that happens away on tour. It's the first time, Josh,
Speaker 1: I've heard anything like that since nineteen eighty five. There
Speaker 1: was a bat there was, Yeah, you heard that one
Speaker 1: about eighty five. Terry Fernley coached New South Wales. They
Speaker 1: won the series, then they won a way to New
Speaker 1: Zealand and Terry Fernley dropped all the Queenslanders. There was
Speaker 1: only like I think one or two Queenslanders in the
Speaker 1: whole squad and made it was they reckon. It was
Speaker 1: an awful tour but there and that was sort of
Speaker 1: sold for a long time. But that's interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and look when like it wasn't too bad if
Speaker 5: they were kind of by themselves, but like when they
Speaker 5: were in a group, that's when you noticed it. But
Speaker 5: that they I guess at that stage they had earned
Speaker 5: that right because they won so many and they were
Speaker 5: a tight knit bunch. But at stages it also came
Speaker 5: across across as arrogance and we kind of used that
Speaker 5: as well against him and one bloke who was instrumental
Speaker 5: and getting us to win that series was Hainzy like
Speaker 5: he was unbelievable in that fourteen series. And he kind
Speaker 5: of said before game one, we were just about to
Speaker 5: get on the bus and he pretty much stood up
Speaker 5: in front of the boys and said, I'm not leaving
Speaker 5: anything out there tonight.
Speaker 4: Boys come with me and we're going to get this
Speaker 4: wind tonight.
Speaker 1: That's very much unlike him from the things I've heard him.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's extraordinary. Yeah, that's it's funny watching that,
Speaker 1: watching Queensland Queensland players, they have this amazing link to
Speaker 1: that jersey. And I've asked Queensland a few Queensland blakes
Speaker 1: before of my era, before my era and after my era,
Speaker 1: and I said him what is more special? What would
Speaker 1: you want? Would you want to Australiane jersey on your
Speaker 1: wall or Queensland Jersey? Without his hesitation, they say Queensland
Speaker 1: Jersey And maybe you know for sometimes over the years,
Speaker 1: that's one thing that's probably held us back a little bit.
Speaker 1: If you asked the blues player, what do you want
Speaker 1: you wore? I would I would think that most people
Speaker 1: were say in Australian Jersey.
Speaker 5: I would say a Blues jersey. Yeah, okay, I would
Speaker 5: say a blue. I loved Origin, Like when I was
Speaker 5: a young kid, it was kind of one of the
Speaker 5: only times that we got pizza.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, Origin night.
Speaker 5: Used to look forward to getting pizza and then played
Speaker 5: knee footy in the lounde room till the game started
Speaker 5: at halftime knee footy and then watch it and like
Speaker 5: I just grew up like loving the Blues players like
Speaker 5: and a lot of success when I was younger too,
Speaker 5: like the Blues side, so yeah, and like watching it
Speaker 5: as a teenager and then getting to play first grade,
Speaker 5: like I saw that as the pinnacle, and you know,
Speaker 5: to play fifteen like is something that I'm really really
Speaker 5: proud of.
Speaker 1: It's amazing achievement. And but it's funny. I always think
Speaker 1: Australia and people of my era because of how many
Speaker 1: stepping stones you have to get, So it used to
Speaker 1: be a stepping stone, right. I play good at club
Speaker 1: level City Country, City, Country and give an idea. When
Speaker 1: I my first ever Country Origin team I got picked in.
Speaker 1: I walked into the room. There was Lory Daily, Bradley Clyde,
Speaker 1: Ricky Stewart, Glan Lazarus, God Wish, Paul mcgreth and it
Speaker 1: was like an Origin side and made it was so
Speaker 1: serious and now if you played good in that, you
Speaker 1: get picked in Origin and that was the one away
Speaker 1: then if you play good Australia.
Speaker 2: He looked now right Like even last year's Australia Tour,
Speaker 2: Ethan Strange and Jacob Preston taken over in the squad.
Speaker 2: They had never made an Origin side, but it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, they'll learn a lot from that. They may
Speaker 2: even be Origin players one day. Like they almost talked
Speaker 2: about it like it was international and then Origin was
Speaker 2: the peak. Were there many people back in your day
Speaker 2: that actually went like made Australia first before Origin or
Speaker 2: was it a natural progression Britain did? He did?
Speaker 5: He went on the nine Tour and played for Australia
Speaker 5: and then played Origin in twenty ten. And I think
Speaker 5: my boy did too, actually he played. He was I
Speaker 5: think he's the last person to ever go from country
Speaker 5: football to Australia and it was his one and only
Speaker 5: tests nineteen seventy eight. He was playing for Dado and
Speaker 5: picked in the Australians.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Mick Crohnin did, Yeah, got picked from Jarring
Speaker 1: Gone played for Australia has only been down, you know,
Speaker 1: only a couple of times. That's that's that's an amazing achieved.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when you get over fifty. Josh,
Speaker 1: you actually forgot what you're going to talk about.
Speaker 2: I got a question because I think because I don't
Speaker 2: want to make you feel old. But you know, you
Speaker 2: talk about people you grew up watching State of Orogent.
Speaker 2: I actually grew up watching you in State of Origin,
Speaker 2: and I always found that you and your brother Brett,
Speaker 2: no matter former club level or anything, people always talk
Speaker 2: about you know, people in Queensland, they elevate for that jersey.
Speaker 2: It always seemed like, no matter the former club land,
Speaker 2: how your club team was going, anytime you and Brett
Speaker 2: put an Origin jersey on your form would always you
Speaker 2: guys would always lift to that level. Was that something
Speaker 2: you guys prowered yourself on or were you guys always
Speaker 2: just so motivated to put that jersey.
Speaker 5: No, definitely something that we prided ourselves on. You know,
Speaker 5: every time you play Origin, you've got to prove yourself
Speaker 5: you've got it. Like you can play one Origin and
Speaker 5: call yourself an Origin player, but you've got to you've
Speaker 5: got to go out there and do the jump of
Speaker 5: justice and prove that you deserve to be there, and
Speaker 5: no matter what the score was, no matter how long
Speaker 5: the game was, in like, we just didn't change the
Speaker 5: way we played. And I think the fact that I
Speaker 5: left the Dragons and went across to the Dogs also
Speaker 5: made us play better in the fact that we would
Speaker 5: only play in rep sides together, so we both knew
Speaker 5: that we had to be playing well to get that
Speaker 5: Blues jersey as well. And then that confidence of being
Speaker 5: the same team together and you know, playing alongside each
Speaker 5: other just made us It was like we almost wanted
Speaker 5: to outdo each other on that stage as well, so
Speaker 5: that that always worked in our favor.
Speaker 1: The dynamic between so myself and Andrew, although were three
Speaker 1: years different, we've always grown up very very tight or
Speaker 1: mostly like yeah, tighter than three years. And when we
Speaker 1: play on the field together, I knew, or even just
Speaker 1: in life, when he does something, I know, if I
Speaker 1: say something, I know exactly what he's been everything. And
Speaker 1: on the football field, you know, I played with him
Speaker 1: a little bit to juniors, but we played in the
Speaker 1: backyard so much. And when I first got into NRL,
Speaker 1: I was going oh, you know, trying to work with
Speaker 1: the half back, and then halfag got injured, Joey came
Speaker 1: on the field and I'm like, oh man, this is
Speaker 1: so easy. So that old dynamic. But before we talk
Speaker 1: about playing with a twin, like growing up with a twin,
Speaker 1: can you just let us know the dynamic? Do you
Speaker 1: think the same. There's always talk about there almost been
Speaker 1: this invisible link.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like I think you know, we were still
Speaker 5: our best mates, and we were absolutely horrendous, like when
Speaker 5: we're young, we're just getting to everything. No, I iPads
Speaker 5: nothing just to distract her these days. But I was
Speaker 5: always the more active one out of the two of
Speaker 5: us and Scalliwag. Yeah, probably, And you could say that
Speaker 5: still like I did a lot of our talking growing up,
Speaker 5: Brett didn't. Brett just kind of let me go off
Speaker 5: and be the goose and just sat there and watched
Speaker 5: and then he goes, I'd and have to do it,
Speaker 5: and you did it all for me. But even like
Speaker 5: when we were when we were young kids, my mum
Speaker 5: caught me getting out of my cot, jumping into his court,
Speaker 5: pushing his ass over the thing to get him out,
Speaker 5: and we'd go and go and do stuff together, Like
Speaker 5: we we burned down a kitchen one time by putting
Speaker 5: newspapers on the stove and said turning the stove on.
Speaker 5: That was my older brother's first day, his first ever
Speaker 5: gave a foot. He didn't get to go to it.
Speaker 1: Evil motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: My granddad was looking after us one time and we
Speaker 5: went into a bathroom, took the cistern off and took
Speaker 5: everything out and then flushed it and it just completely
Speaker 5: flooded the bathroom. And below there was a two story house.
Speaker 5: So we had to get all the work done. Margarine
Speaker 5: on the walls, just painted the walls, march, oh, mate.
Speaker 5: There was so much stuff that we did. Like Mum
Speaker 5: would try and go into the shopping center to go
Speaker 5: and get something real quick, and she'd have a strapped
Speaker 5: into her car seats and then she'd get back there'd
Speaker 5: be a crowd around the car of me and beeping
Speaker 5: on the horner and they're like whose kids are they?
Speaker 5: And she'd be like, I don't even start. So we
Speaker 5: were always thick as thieves going up And like I said,
Speaker 5: like our rivalry was never bitter at any stages. It's
Speaker 5: always been competitive and always tried to outdo each other
Speaker 5: in the best way possible. And I guess when we
Speaker 5: had that mindset, it was only going to end in success.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
Speaker 5: So and look, there was a lot of people like
Speaker 5: when we were younger, like saying, oh, you're only on
Speaker 5: this side because you're old You're old boy in your
Speaker 5: last name, and we just use that as as more fire,
Speaker 5: you know, like to ignite, just to say no, we're not.
Speaker 5: This is why we're here because we worked bloody hard.
Speaker 5: And when when we got into the first grade squads
Speaker 5: and started training with the top squad, it was we
Speaker 5: were always trying to be number one into what we did. Okay,
Speaker 5: if you have that kind of mindset, I guess it's
Speaker 5: going to help.
Speaker 1: So as juniors, who athletics is who won.
Speaker 4: In primary school? I won, in high school, he won.
Speaker 1: Who made the websides, who was first picked?
Speaker 5: It just depended like one year I would I would
Speaker 5: get in, and then he would get in the next
Speaker 5: year and I wouldn't. So in terms of like your
Speaker 5: Harold Matthews and your sty ball and stuff like that, well,
Speaker 5: like we played well, I played group seven first because
Speaker 5: I didn't get picked in the Alora sides. Brett got
Speaker 5: picked in My first repside was SG ball when I
Speaker 5: was eighteen, and like I, I trained like when he was.
Speaker 5: He made that side in seventeen. I went away and
Speaker 5: while he was doing all his stuff, I was in
Speaker 5: the gym trying to train as hard as I could
Speaker 5: try and get to get myself to a level which
Speaker 5: could compete with those blokes. And then made it when
Speaker 5: we were eighteen. And then we kind of made a
Speaker 5: pack to each other, like to give it our best
Speaker 5: shot possible and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't
Speaker 5: work out.
Speaker 1: Could I ask the question?
Speaker 3: Actually? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Maybe sorry?
Speaker 2: What his MIC's on.
Speaker 1: Your bed? See I'm about.
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about this the other day with
Speaker 3: the couch from Brothers. It just popped into my brain.
Speaker 3: When I first saw it South, I had a conversation
Speaker 3: with Anthony Seabolt about the Burgers brothers, right, and he
Speaker 3: was talking about the twins, the brothers, and he was
Speaker 3: sort of saying they went off. They had a really
Speaker 3: poor twenty seventeen and then twenty eighteen. I think it
Speaker 3: might have been Tom George went to the bench and
Speaker 3: Tom really shot out of nowhere and started like overlapping
Speaker 3: sort of George after he'd had that big period through
Speaker 3: the competition winning stage. Did you feel like I remember
Speaker 3: him saying that, like, if one of them done something good,
Speaker 3: that everyone in the perception was across pretty much the
Speaker 3: whole media landscape or whoever it was, would give them,
Speaker 3: like a give them both points, and then if someone
Speaker 3: did something bad, they'd give them both negative points.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like linked? Yeah? No.
Speaker 2: Did you feel like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like in juniors all growing up that if like one
Speaker 3: person did something good to one person did something bad,
Speaker 3: it was like both your stock was affected by it.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit more so when we were younger,
Speaker 5: but I guess when we're older and home in first grade,
Speaker 5: because we separated positions. I think, you know, they're both
Speaker 5: front rowers, so that's where they probably got tired with
Speaker 5: the same brush.
Speaker 2: And you couldn't even tell them a partnery both dropping
Speaker 2: the ball equally.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, I think the fact that I went
Speaker 5: to center and Brett stayed on the wing, I think
Speaker 5: that kind of gave us our individual nurse. I guess
Speaker 5: instead of putting us in the same.
Speaker 2: Did you both like because you talk about one of
Speaker 2: his making reps and then one doesn't. Did you both
Speaker 2: hit puberty together like identical twins. That's a very personal question,
Speaker 2: but like do you both All I.
Speaker 4: Know is we stopped sharing together in primary schools.
Speaker 2: Have your periods together, ye know how like you know,
Speaker 2: a kid just like peaks when he said, like he'll
Speaker 2: just be overnight like sixteen, but rather might.
Speaker 4: Be in high school at some stage.
Speaker 5: But we didn't really shoot up until we're about seventeen eighteen, So.
Speaker 2: You're both late bloomers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so like we thought we had dad's type. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we thought, well, we'll make we'll make do it. And
Speaker 5: actually that probably helped us in a way as well,
Speaker 5: because you know, when you're smaller and all these kids
Speaker 5: hit puberty and they get bigger than you, you've got
Speaker 5: to rely on your skill and other strengths of your
Speaker 5: game to get on that level as then. But then
Speaker 5: when you shoot up and they haven't worked hard, then
Speaker 5: they go like that and you go like that. And
Speaker 5: I think that's what probably was a good thing for
Speaker 5: us as well.
Speaker 1: School.
Speaker 4: I was the one at school. Yeah, Brett.
Speaker 1: Fred's an idiot.
Speaker 4: He's not an idiot like I said he was. He
Speaker 4: was kind of I was always the more active one,
Speaker 4: but at school when you turned eighteen, you could sign
Speaker 4: your own absentee slip.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but I think Brett was forging his for
Speaker 5: a long time before he was eight, and I didn't
Speaker 5: realize how many days he had off because like when
Speaker 5: you get to year eleven and twelve you'd have free periods. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think he did it so he'd have a double
Speaker 5: free period one and he just wouldn't turn up. He
Speaker 5: just wouldn't go. And then my mum got our report
Speaker 5: cards in year twelve. I think he had like one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty days. What he's been so on them
Speaker 5: the whole time.
Speaker 4: And then when we got to the HC, he goes,
Speaker 4: we did the mass math test together. He goes, oh,
Speaker 4: what do you get for this? I said, oh, I
Speaker 4: got this. He goes, now, I didn't get that that.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that. So I think he got about
Speaker 4: sixty in his I got just under eighty.
Speaker 2: Did you ever do like any pranks where you know
Speaker 2: he he might be a really good at English, so
Speaker 2: you go right over it, like you you pretend to
Speaker 2: be Josh for this English test, but I'll do your
Speaker 2: math test for you.
Speaker 4: Like well, we were in in primary school.
Speaker 5: We weren't allowed to be in the same classes, but
Speaker 5: in high school we were pretty much in every single
Speaker 5: class together, so we couldn't couldn't really do.
Speaker 1: It about what about the dating suite, like did you
Speaker 1: like you know, like okay, just trying to work there.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: No, but I'm meaning just like, for instance, let's say,
Speaker 1: for instance, like Brett's got a girlfriend and she obviously
Speaker 1: meets him, and she looks him and says he's hot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like him. But then all of a sudden she
Speaker 1: meets the twin it goes oh, like okay, yeah, was
Speaker 1: there like was there anything?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 5: No, there was nothing like that. I mean I would
Speaker 5: have been the better of the two, but they would
Speaker 5: like I think we kind of had different tastes in women, yeah, extend.
Speaker 4: Well, I was. I was probably more about quantity over quality,
Speaker 4: but we did.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 5: There was one night where we did hook up with
Speaker 5: the same ship and I don't think she realized, And
Speaker 5: we didn't realize until the next morning when we were
Speaker 5: a bit hung over and just go I gave her
Speaker 5: a pash last night I said, did I what time.
Speaker 2: You were in the same out there? That is because
Speaker 2: it's also an interesting dynamic, right, because you're start seeing
Speaker 2: a girl and you might introduce her to your friendship
Speaker 2: group and you know, out of respect, she'll say, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, you might have a really good looking friend
Speaker 2: in your and your group, and she goes, oh, no,
Speaker 2: he's not good looking. I don't know why everyone lies here,
Speaker 2: he's not good looking. But for you, guys, you bring
Speaker 2: a girl home and she has no excuse but to
Speaker 2: admit that. You know your twin is good looking because
Speaker 2: he's identical to you.
Speaker 4: That's a fair point. But I don't think that any
Speaker 4: of them ever did.
Speaker 1: So look on the dating, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: beauty is on the inside, you know.
Speaker 3: So you've got to realize that these two guys, Josh,
Speaker 3: they only see what's in front of them.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't look any deeper.
Speaker 2: Because that's what halves do. They play with it in
Speaker 2: front of him.
Speaker 1: I was updating before we go into Uh okay, that's
Speaker 1: the into part one. I reckon it would have enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Head over to part two.