WEBVTT - Josh Morris | Part 1 | State of Origin, Twin Dynamic & Media World 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.400 Welcome to the podcast today, and you're about to listen 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.720 to episode one. After you finished, head straight over to 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.760 episode two. Okay, enjoy. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.040 You know that's funny. The first time, the first time 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.320 I ever met Josh m Brett, was it a nobs lynch. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:17.239 Do you remember that? Oh? Yeah, I was like eighteen. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:18.799 Yeah, I was just before I saw my hose because 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:19.880 I remember Cookie was there as well. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.280 Were rolling. I think this is good rolling. Yeah, we're 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:24.239 do it now. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:29.640 So yeah, first impressions of Josh were very highly made. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:31.639 I thought you were a very respectful young man and. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.720 Well mate, and that's what I said to him. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.920 I said, mate, I said, you know, I said mate, Yeah, 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.280 I said listen, I don't know much about rugby league, 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.040 but I know one thing. The game will repay you 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.599 back the heart of your work, and you keep out 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.160 a kid, you'll do good things. He said, I played 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:45.880 three hundred games. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:47.240 I couldn't agree with you more. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:50.960 After that brief encounter as well. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.319 So yeah, you retired three years later, so he did. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.840 Remember Jackie got the dark Missed gets the dark miss 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.320 You'll see you in there for no apparent reason, A 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.840 dark cloud, red mist. It actually just descends on him, 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.760 and all of a sudden he gets really really dark 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.200 at that lunch and he turns remember that, Yes, irritable 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.480 flesh gave even flesh gats mate, what's the matter with 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:13.400 the young blow? 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.600 Because I couldn't I couldn't drink. 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:23.280 Oh no, jeez, it's so sorry about that. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:28.280 Yeah, I think it's my cut Now back the hell man. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:31.360 Operation? 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.520 What is this operation you're running? Josh? Sorry, mam, I 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.640 cut out? Yeah, the do you know what? It's because 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.640 we had the that's because I was at Storm there. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.520 We had the Grand Final the next day against the Roosters, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.240 so and I wasn't obviously playing. Yeah, but it shouldn't 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:45.120 have been too much stress on you. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.480 But because they would have been, you would have been 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.240 staying like where the core, Yeah, yeah, across the road 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.120 from it, which is where the after party was at there, And. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:56.360 That's right exactly. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.440 So I think I was annoyed because I couldn't drink 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.200 because we were on a team drinking band whatever that means, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.720 doesn't work. And they got beat anyway, And so I 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.760 think that's why I was so filthy, Because everyone's having 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.160 a good time, you know, it's like to be sober 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.960 something like that and everyone's having fun and you feel 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.520 like you can't. Every time you try to crack a joke, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.880 someone talks over here. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.560 We just left a little bit of space for you 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:24.160 and gave us nothing. Who was lunch in that year? 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:30.720 Josh Dave Gleason was Yeah, Yeah, he got the play 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.680 scale and that was really good. He's his favorite player. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.280 Was my old boy as well, Slippery. He came up 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.200 to me and Bretton said, love love your old boy. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.120 We said we love you as well. So that was 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.760 a pretty cool moment. But I'd met him before as well. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.760 He actually played at bobcat Ryan's wedding and we were 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.960 We played the Storm in Adelaide for a couple of 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.200 years and I went to the toilet after the game. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.000 We're in the team room. I went to the toilet 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.440 and came back and he was sitting there with a guitar. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.840 On the tour, he does his warm up to the 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.880 bet he does that's the acoustics in the cubicle. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:15.000 Of Brian says the same. So he came back in 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.240 the game. But I came back into the room and 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.520 he's playing all these songs just acoustic. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:21.400 It was unbelievable. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.200 He's a massive Dragons fan, So Dragons fan and when 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.760 we want the copy sort of like Knights as well, 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.920 but mostly Dragons. Now, he was a growing up, he 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:36.120 was a junior referee and linesman, and think about that now, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.200 like then became one of the biggest rock stars in 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:38.560 the world. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.160 There for a while, that's a scary there'd be a 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.240 scary bike because he's quite a scary looking we call it. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:45.640 It looks a little bit like it looks a lot 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.200 like a good career move. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:48.720 Yeah. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.760 Also, that's a that's a weird for bobcat Ryan like, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.960 it's a weird band to request like, it's a very Yeah. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.000 I don't I don't know how it worked out because 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.960 it's back in the day before you had all social 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.840 media and whatnot, So I don't know how it worked out. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.120 But one of the just great man I was. I 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.520 was down there with Cooper for Live Golf and he 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.120 lives down in Adelaide Now I had a couple of 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.760 days with him. It was. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:14.400 Yeah. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.480 Still his brain chemistry is a little bit off. I 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.120 just want to also shout it because you're a South 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.040 Coast boy. You grew up in Cayam, you were born in. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.760 I was born in Saint George. Cogo Hospital, Congo Hospital. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.480 What a hospital that is as well. I could talk 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.599 for hours about Cogo Hospital. Yeah it is the Yeah, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.200 no it's good. But I was just down in Gerrengong 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.400 and stopped through Kyamert went to the Grand Hotel. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.040 What a beautiful part of the world it is. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.440 When I first got to the Dogs, they were my 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.839 third party sponsor at the Grand Hotel. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:46.960 So I used to. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.920 Go back to the Grand Hotel and do promos there, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.479 get on the piss with all my mates. It was 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.359 the best I'd be beyond the bar like later at 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.360 night born bits for me mates. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:58.719 It was the best ever. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.800 So were they respons? Are the Bulldogs? 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:01.440 Yeah? They were. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.800 They were my third party sponsor, so as part of 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.960 the contract I had between them, I had to go 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.919 down and do a certain amount of You didn't have 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.840 to pull me on to get me down there. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.839 I was down there all the time. It was fantastic. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.760 I had a third party from the South coast. You 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.720 know what I'd like the blowhole. Oh, Matthew John's as 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.320 sponsored by the Kyama blowho all hailed the blowhole. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.160 It is. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.440 I was just saying to Jami was off air. I 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.039 stopped through there on the way in Jarringong and the 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.000 blowhole was just like it was blowing. It was in 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.479 really good form because there was the it was coming 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.279 in I think from the east, the wind and the northeast. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.800 It was coming in just a perfect traction into the 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.040 hole squirting out and Mate, talk about yeah, sorry, there's 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.800 a turn of phrase there I probably shouldn't use, but 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.160 talk about a tourist attraction for Kayama. There were buses 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.560 of people coming in to see it. 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:52.279 Just mate. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.320 In summer there used to be like the main street 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.560 used to take you like ten to fifteen minutes to 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:58.840 get down in the car. It used to be an 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.440 absolute punish because if the blowhole is working, everyone wants 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:02.880 to go there. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.160 And I spoke. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.000 About off here. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.520 A couple of my mates used to jump into it 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.880 and jump over the back of it and they'd wait 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.400 for the buses to turn up when it was a 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.159 bit of a smaller day and they'd be jumping and 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.960 they'd be taking photos of them, going, oh, Superman, and 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.840 they'd be posing, there's Superman in these photos with them. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.040 So it was a great place to grow up. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.679 And that footy ground is probably one of the most picturesque, yeah, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.680 in Australia, but it was a ship place to play 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.040 in winter, especially if there was a southerly wind like 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.839 you could you could hear the line drop out and 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.479 go it'd go eighty of the full really dead, that's 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.000 how strong the wind would be there. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.560 So you imagine that and a bit of rain. It 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:42.280 used to be. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.240 Horrible and you can imagine talent scouts going down there 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.839 and going this kid's kicking game. You've never seen anything 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:48.960 like it. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.159 And yes, to a neutral ground there. Actually it wasn't 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:51.480 as good. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.640 As he's had six forty twenties. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.919 Georgie Mimus just taking them out. I'll put this on. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.800 But there's plenty, plenty of talent that's come from down 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.560 there that way. I mean when I was going up 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:06.360 there was Rod wish Art and then Sewn Timmins who 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.080 was a bit older than me, Like those are the 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.400 types of blokes that we grew up idolizing because you 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.360 know they were from Kimer and Jerry Gong and they 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.960 were able to play in the NRL, so you could 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.480 see that there was a pathway there. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.360 You know what's cool though about those A lot of 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:21.920 because I was just down there was had to be 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.720 with Rocket Rod or Throb and Rod as he's going by. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.960 Now that's really apparently. Yeah, everyone's calling him Throbin. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:32.280 Does he do the pilates like like son tyrannt. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.960 Uh No, No, he's not quite as flexible as his 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.560 son Tyrant. Yeah, there's a you wouldn't have heard this, James, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.920 but there was a there's a rumor going around and Buzz. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.120 Rockdale explain the genesis of all of this. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.440 So when we're doing the Family podcast, back when I 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.560 was playing at Melbourne. In a throwaway comment once, I 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.880 said that I caught Wishy in his room like trying to, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:00.240 you know, I guess, perform selfish on himself and that 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.040 every day at training he like and daddy goo Wishy 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.640 update and I go, oh, he's he's been had his ham, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.320 he's worked on this week. He had some accupuncho. He's 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.360 got an extra inch but he just quite can't get 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.280 there yet. Anyway, this is before he This is before 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.680 Wish even Dave and then Wish he Dave booded and 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.320 then Mate. The fans just targeted him. People just sledged 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.000 him because back then you had to. It was even 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.720 covid so some of the players who eight and ninety, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.800 but also the ball boys, so we should be on 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.800 the sideline people going goes, what are you doing on 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.200 a go on the sheds and suck yourself off. 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:36.360 And then she goes and he's too nice. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.240 Hands why he probably would do that, and he's irresistible 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:38.040 even for himself. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.880 And then Tyron goes, hey, look, I love love the stuff, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.560 but do you reckon? You can stop the you know, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.720 the flexibility stuff, because people are starting to go off 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.199 to the family of Jerry going like sweet, no worries. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.360 And then we stopped doing it all together. But then 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.280 the listeners didn't stop. They went it was Wikipedia's page 0:08:55.520 --> 0:09:04.439 and started changed his name to Tyron. The contortionists wish. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.000 Wikipedia is still undefeated. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.440 So I love how Wikipedia, even after all these years, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.640 you don't need to have some sort of verification to 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.920 edit anyone's Wikipedia. You can just go in there like 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:13.720 whatever you want. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.880 Well, a couple of players used to change their birthday, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.280 and I think Jeremy Smith did it, and Chris Irrington 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.400 a couple of years at the back end of their 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.760 career kept on changing. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:25.720 Their age, change their height. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.599 That's what Gal does. G says he's one hundred and 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.240 eighty two centiments funk Off. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.480 I was explaining to the boys, Josh like growing up, 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:40.240 so what year were you born? Eighty six? Forty this year, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.560 so you're out, you like being I've seen your dad's 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:45.480 career as a kid. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.040 Nah, Like I barely remember. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.680 Like he was at the Roosters when when we were retired, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.920 and when he retired and would have been about three 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.640 or four. I can still remember little parts of him 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.720 interacting after the match with fans and stuff like that. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.440 But in turn of his footy, no, I don't remember it. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.880 But he had this tape and it's on YouTube now 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.800 if you if you google his name, you'll see this 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.120 tape of all his tries. That's what we had, and 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.880 we would watch on repeat, Me and Brett would just 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:14.840 sit there and watch it. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.480 He it was a real cult figure when he hit, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.440 you know, because I remember it's funny he went through 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.840 he sort of crossed over two eras, yeah, which is interesting. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.880 So he crossed over the era where the half back 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.600 was sort of fast ducker and data. It was placed 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.360 by Steve Mortimer and whatnot, Billy Smith before that, and 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:32.600 he was that and then all of a sudden when 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.680 the game started to become a little more strategic and 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.080 they wanted something different from the halves, they moved him 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:37.319 to the. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.120 Wing, pass and tackle. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.480 As I was doing that last thing, and I really 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:44.800 run your old man down here. 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.320 You tried to do it in the most respectful way. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:49.240 You know, it's a game change. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.640 We don't let him let him miss out on that one. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.959 And it's it's quite funny because he scored one hundred 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:01.120 and twenty something tries, and you know that when we 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.120 first started playing first grade, I was like, oh, will 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.640 we ever get to beat Dcord? And then Brett beat 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.200 it and he rang him up and said, how does 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.760 it feel to be the second top triscra? So I've 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.400 been waiting for this and then it took me probably 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.360 about three or four years later to get to it finally, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.719 and he goes, I've been fucking waiting for this. How 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.839 does it feel to be the third best triscre in 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.880 the family? So yeah, good, good little record to hang 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.800 out hat on there, and it's probably a record that 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:32.880 will stand for a long time. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.400 I imagine, I reckon, I readon. It will do you 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.600 in retirement, We'll coop'll do it there like a bit 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.439 of retirement then go back through the career. I just 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.000 want to ask you there when you were talking like 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:47.079 about to hit forty, how did you find retirement? At first? 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.880 I can end up in the media doing stuff well. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.559 To start with, I was on the tools for about 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.760 eighteen months. I finished my carpentry trade in the last 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.800 two or three years while I was still playing, so 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.000 i'd go to take Me and Brett both did it 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.280 Tuesday Wednesday nights for three years. And then once I finished, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.199 I had a couple of mates that were builders, so 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.800 I just jumped on the tools and helped out there 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.160 for a little while. And then kind of it's got 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.960 by chance that Levy Mark Leeby text me and said, oh, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.199 we've got a spot coming up on our Saturday show, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.559 would you like to jump in? And I did it, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.920 and then he said, oh that was really great, blah 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.120 blah blah, And then a couple of weeks later I 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.160 got on again, and then it kind of slowly ended 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.520 up me at the end of the year getting a contract. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.080 And then it's been four years now since I've started 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.480 on the radio. So I'm very grateful for him doing that. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:42.240 But yeah, it's just it's just it's it's not like 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.000 a job like I said, like, yeah, you know, I 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.440 worked hard for that, probably twelve to eighteen months on 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.280 the tools, and I reckon. I had more injuries on 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.400 the tools, and I had playing for fifteen years. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.600 Made no. I fell off a ladder. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.079 I was trying to shoot something into one of the 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.000 hangars and the ladder went and because there was a 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.040 window in front of me, I've kind of hooked the 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.040 ladder and pulled it back that way. But as I've 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.000 done that, I've dropped my nail gun and turned over 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.920 and just shredded me straight across me study And then 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.560 a brick landed on my head because I was I was, 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.880 I was cleaning the floor around this ladder and one 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.480 of the one of the brickies left it on there 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:24.960 and it just hit me straight on the top of 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.160 the forehead. But I saw him the next day and 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.600 I said, mate, don't come near me. And he thought 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.320 I was joking. I said, mate, I'm not joking. If 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.959 you come near me, I'm going to knock you out. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:39.599 Any gays all right, I think I'm just going to 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.960 go to this other job boys around the corner. But yeah, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.480 but I enjoyed that kind of stuff as well, because 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.880 it was hard labor and you're part of a team again, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.679 and that's something that you miss when you retire. Obviously, 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.199 the locker room and spend it all day with your 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.160 mates and talk and shit, and I guess that kind 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.640 of has similar traits to being in the footage side. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.080 So I did enjoy it. But yeah, I'm kind of 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.240 happy the media stuff has kicked off. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.199 I can only imagine sometimes people you know, books and 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:13.880 work and you turn up with the crew and they 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:14.680 got you know, like. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:19.040 Josh, you must have gone ship with his whatnot, But no, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.440 I didn't. I just enjoyed the kind of physical labor 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.680 and the hard work and I guess earning the beer 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:27.680 at the end of the week. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.000 And you know what you just said there, That's how 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.240 it sort of used to be. Players would you know, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.320 through their careers, boys they would they would play and 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.800 literally the game, the rugby league thing was secondary the 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.000 full time workers and another teacher football was teaching your 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.760 dad and what you do if you owner butcher shop, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.760 or let's say for instance, you're a bill and whatnot. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.600 How you've got benefits from that was People would look 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.880 and go oh mate, Josh Morris carpentry mate, We'll get him. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.760 So that that was the benefit of being a rugby 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.520 leaue player, not so much what you're I. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.680 Was watching a game once and then I can't remember 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.120 who's but the winger scored, and then it come up 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.520 like you know, his age, weight and his occupation. Yeah, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.800 he was a teacher or a carpenter. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.680 Yes, And it's quite funny these days because I run 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.760 into a lot of people because dad taught in Sydney 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.960 for a long time before he moved down the South Coast, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.400 and I'll bump into a lot of people and they're like, oh, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.840 your dad taught me the same. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.480 Question prostitutes now of course, Okay. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.200 Was he a good teacher, No, not really, but he 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.520 was fun. I think it just if it rained. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.880 He just used to put on like the Simpsons or 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.400 the movies, or he'd put on games of himself. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.040 They just sit there and watch. So they didn't learn anything. Well, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:38.680 they had fun. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.680 More mana Veil Primary School Public school. The groundsman at 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.040 man of our public school was Faddy Vaughton and the 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.720 math teacher was Johnny Gibbs. Of course they're best mates, 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.960 so what they used to do. Sometimes you just go fat, 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.520 just get the incinerator going. They just like. And then 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.040 in the meantime Faddy would sit underneath like the window 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.080 of Gibbs his class and gives you to have one 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.400 ear at the window and they listen to the races 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.240 all day. Oh really, none of my kids can read 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:05.560 or right, but he said, they're now it's six to 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:06.120 four on me. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.800 What But how you enjoying the continuous call team? 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:12.040 Now? 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.720 Yeah, mate, it's great fun. Like I said, it doesn't 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.800 feel like a job. And I guess I've been a 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.520 fan of foot in my whole life, Like just because 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.840 I've played it doesn't mean like as a young kid, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.120 if there was a good game on, like I was 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.120 a massive Dragons fan. But if there was a good 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.520 game between two good sides in form, I would love 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:32.680 sitting there and watching it. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.160 And that hasn't stopped. Like I would even while I 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.680 was playing. I would watch most games every weekend and 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.760 I still watch most games on the weekends. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.120 And I try and palm it off as work for 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.120 the missas so the kids leave me alone. But no, 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.600 I've just been a fan of football, absolutely love it, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.160 and like I said, it just doesn't feel like a 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.000 job when you're talking about something that you've done your 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:59.240 whole life. And I guess the way that we do 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.160 it is we we try and explain it in as 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.480 simpler way as possible and dumb it down for the 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.080 listeners so that they know exactly what we're saying. I 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.480 guess because you know, we can pick up on the 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.199 little tendencies that plays do when they misread something in 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.320 defense or if they something comes off well in attack, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.080 like we're able to pick up that straight away and 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.160 deliver it quickly and simply. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.320 So I enjoy that part of it as well. 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:30.159 And it's something that when I first started of you 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.120 don't realize how short a time you have to say 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.960 something real quick. So you've got to try, and you've 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.280 got to try and have like quality over quantity yep. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.119 And that's something that probably I have worked on throughout 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.720 the last four years to try and get better at, 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:44.840 and it's something that I enjoy. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.560 It's only like I find, Josh when at times then 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.280 they asked me to commentate, I'll get there. And I 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.600 find with commentary is if you try to talk while 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.399 the game isn't play, what happens is you start to 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.440 accelerate in your talk as the game accelerates, If that 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.080 makes sense, I just tried to. I've sort of resigned 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.040 myselfs to the fact I go, you know what, that 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.560 part of I'm not good at what I'm good at. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.879 When the ball rolls in touch, I can turn my 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.679 co commentator and just have a normal conversation. That's what 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.800 I find the uses. But it is very, very difficult 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.399 to start to work out, you know, when should I 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.119 jump in, when should shouldn't I. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:24.600 And especially at sideline as well, because when you're at sideline, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.520 and you'll probably agree with this, you've only got about 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.840 twenty seconds. But what they've said, they've done the try. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:36.720 The commentators called it, then the co commentators broken it down. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.880 But then they go to the sideline and you've got 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.880 to try and come up with something different. And they've 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.880 both talked about as well. Yes, so you can sometimes 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:44.480 find that. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.840 Further injury update, my first week, I acted like my 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.560 headphones weren't working just because I was that like, you know, 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.560 when you're trying to think, if they come to me 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:55.840 the next five minutes, what am I going to talk 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.560 about it? You're constantly trying to figure out and I 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.520 had nothing, nothing, and they spoke about everything and I 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.520 just and they were looking down and I was just gone, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:04.920 like that, I think we're having some technical difference, but 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:06.760 I could hear it and my mic was working fine. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:08.760 I was just that stressed in what I had to say. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.879 But the amazing history that style of radio when it 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.840 comes to rugby league, it was two yu Wi, two GB, 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:16.920 back to two yui, sort of backwards and forwards who 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.280 ran it? And it started, like Ray Hadley says this 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.000 all the time, he started the continuous call. But the 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.080 predecessors were the pioneers of it, which was Peter Peters 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.640 and Greg Hardley, Hollywood and Zorba. And in the eighties 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.800 it was it was a revelation because before that you 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.800 had guys legendary old old callers like Frank Hyde and 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.280 be five to three and they go, welcome to the 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.879 scug today, and whereas Hollywood and Zorba would go on 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.160 at midday and take you right up to the game. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:44.520 And in a lot of ways, the game got in 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.359 the way for the entertainment. And then of course Hadley 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.439 took over at two yu wi and then moved out 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.960 to GB. What's funny about it, mate, when it was 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:58.200 Hadley both of Fulton, there was for White, there was Gibbsy. 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.000 Big Mark yeah big. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:01.879 And you also had a blow there. Peter f Lingos, 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:03.760 who was an iconic journalist at the time, like the 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:07.919 buzz of his time, and what they were they for 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.040 use of a better term, mate the mate. I won't 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.320 say they're a scary group, but you didn't fuck with 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.840 them if in fact with one of them. And I 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:19.840 remember once we played a game, Josh, We're playing Sharks 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.639 at home and Joey there was talking the newspaper that 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.600 Joey is going to get sacked from Origin and Peter 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.959 f Lingos is in the crowd. Now he just quoted 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.920 a selector and I said in the press conference anyone 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.600 who thinks Andrew Johns should be dropped from the new 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.399 South Wales side obviously know nothing about football, right. And 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.639 what happened is few of the journos turned it chippy 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.920 for Lingos, so he took it personally anyway. One of 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.720 the other journals said, this is a message from Chippy. 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:48.600 I'm going to give it to you for the next month, 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:54.240 so mate, literally for the next month. They just zeroed 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.880 in on me and just gave it to me, gave 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.480 it to me, gave it to me, just relentlessly. Then 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.280 after the he goes, are we square? 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.679 And I said, yes, yes we are. It's like a 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:06.320 biking game. 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.959 Yeah, that it was like a mafia, you know, if 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.840 you pulled. If you pulled, Bozos, tell them Bozo Hadley 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.640 or any of them made that after you. Yeah. 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.040 Oh, they tell a couple of good stories about Bozo 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:19.119 about how if there was like they used to always 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.680 get food and stuff delivered, and they'd have products delivered 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:23.200 and then. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.560 And it'd just been disappear. 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:27.600 And then they'd open up the back of Bozo's car 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:31.640 and there'd be platters of a lawn in there, like 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.639 whatever was going he would get it first before anyone 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:36.879 else did. And then even one day, I think the 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.520 big Man had his name on a pie and he'd 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.840 written Levy had his name on a pie. Sorry, and 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.520 he'd written his name on it, and he's gone to 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.520 get it and he couldn't find it. And then Bozos 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.480 called in and goes, well, have I got Levy's pie 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:48.919 with me? 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.600 It's just ruthless, ruthless. He was a coach. But Tea 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.280 what Jeezy was a great coach. Ye to go away 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.520 on tour. He was a great coach because, yeah, I 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.119 think a lot of coaches get they they mark it up. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:06.840 They take a touring team away to England after the 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:08.240 end of a long year and they try to make 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.480 it two technicals and serious both. I had the perfect mix. 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.080 And he had a really game player that was simple, 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.040 so he didn't need to be trained all the time 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.000 and working. But mate, he loved a row it when 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:23.320 we left. Honestly, the amount of jerseys Kendrick. He went 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.240 to Canterbury Clothing and he said, mate, we need twenty 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:29.520 sets jerseys. Apparently they were what mate, we needed seven 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.120 or eight sets. But what he'd do is he distributed 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.320 the mountains. I go around all the shops and Ludes 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.080 and Barta. So you go into a shop at Lads 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.119 with assigned to strange jersey and go what can I 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.320 get and they give you a thousand dollars worth of 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:42.280 gear and stuff like that. 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:43.960 It was just the greatest. 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.919 Yeah, he'd let you guys do it. 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.640 He'd do most of it. Him and Terry Hill, both 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:52.800 of them, both of them passed now they both do it. 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.359 But they distributed some out and go here, like Terry 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.560 goes he maye here take this down Cadalut's football clubs. 0:22:58.600 --> 0:22:59.920 So you go down to the soccer club at. 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.800 And back in those Leeds were big. 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.560 They were huge. But even when you go down to 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.639 the cycle club like that, go oh mate, the kangaroos 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.760 are here. Can you believe that? Even the Premier League players. 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.200 So I'd be like, oh mate, you know they give 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.040 your tickets to the game and you'd swap jerseys. That 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:15.840 was just all boz. 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:21.239 It was whatever, right, a state of origin period. At 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:26.080 the moment Jaylen's you played in I would say one 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:28.040 of the most you know, one of the best State 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.080 of Osan sides we've ever seen in Queensland. Yeah, but 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.440 you know you and your brother Brett, we're two standout 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.240 consistent players always finished South Wales. What was it like 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:40.680 coming up against that Queensland side, you know, camp Smith, JT, 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.320 Darren lockeer Billy Slater. What was that like? 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.920 Look like it was it was a tough time. 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.960 I mean, you know they won, they had won eight 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:53.520 in a row up to twenty fourteen, but like you 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.080 didn't play in all those series, but you felt that pain, 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.800 you know, like that waiting, that expectation to try and 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.639 finally break the series, and you look at their side. 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.960 There'll be players at Hall of Famers and mortals out 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.680 of that side, and you basically knew that you had 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.480 to you had to play pretty much a perfect game 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.879 of footy to beat them, like they weren't going to 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.880 give you anything and if you stuffed up early on, 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.960 they were going to make you pay. So in twenty 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:24.320 fourteen Lows took over as coach and we had a 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.480 catch cry pretty much from the start. We had a 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:30.159 camp early in January and it was whatever it takes, 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.199 like we'd had enough. There was like a lot of 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.040 tension between both sides at that stage. We went away 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.159 on a kangaroo tour, there was still tension there. That 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:43.480 was twenty thirteen, twenty twelve. There was a test at 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.520 the end of the year where the Australian side won 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.359 and they sung the Queensland side. 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:47.960 I remember that. 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:48.880 Oh yeah. 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.480 So that got a lot of the Blues players off 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:55.280 as well, and a few of us got bagged about 0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:56.600 having the shits about. 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.760 It and we were just like, it's not the right 0:24:58.800 --> 0:24:59.280 thing to do. 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.159 Austra in side they do they do they check with 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.119 the new so Wale size that were in that Australia 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.680 the news players that were in that Australian side, did 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.400 they sort of have a discussion with them or they 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:10.920 just sung it and it was just. 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.560 It was just sung and then all the all the 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.640 boys just kind of looked at each other and went, 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:18.040 we're not singing this. 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.640 And then even that night we. 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.280 Went to dinner and there was a New South Wales 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.359 table at Queensland table, Like that's how that's how bad 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.080 it got at this stage. So that fourteen series, that's why, 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.160 like it was such a great series for us, because 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.080 if you go back and look at that game one, 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.200 because the hundredth Game of Origin, other beats and had 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.960 just passed away. They'd retired his jersey for the night. 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.040 So Queen's n came out and said, we're playing for Artie. 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.920 You know, we're going to get this win. And we went, 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.880 all right, well that's good, but you know we've been 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.280 We're going to do whatever it takes. 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:52.200 We're going to show you. 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.480 How much this jersey means to us, how much Origin 0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.399 means to us. And then obviously what happened off the 0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.359 back of that Brett broke his shoulder. 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.760 Score in the trip, I stayed on the field, I. 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.000 Hurt my knee and then got up obviously off the 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:06.760 ground to get Gi and that tackle a lot of 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.320 say I'm off side, but you're going to know the 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:11.720 rules to play the rules. 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.240 So that was the same game whenause I remember Brett 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.320 even later in the second he broke the shoulder in 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.880 the first time the trysaver on Daris. 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:19.479 Boy right at the end. 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.880 Yeah so, and in that game as well, Chocky Watow 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:27.040 ruptured his bicep and then at full time Bo Scott 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.760 was in the shed's collapse with exhaustion. And if you 0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.600 remember that game, the whole second half we're pretty much 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.960 on our trial line and even Gus Good in the 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:37.840 commentary was saying, oh, they're going to break him here, 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.440 They're going to break him here, They're going to break 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:43.040 him here. But we managed to win that game, and 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.480 that was probably one of the toughest games of footy 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.040 Hall played. But the most rewarding as well was sitting 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.280 in the sheds after the game. I don't Reckon Laurie 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.159 talked for twenty minutes because everyone was just down. It 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.520 was like a hospital or there were ice packs on everyone, 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.600 but everyone had this big grin on their face. 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.639 Just how good is that? Because we knew if we 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:02.359 could get back. 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.679 Down to Sydney we'd have a chance of wrapping up 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.439 the series there because we had to go up and 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.720 play Game three at some uncurt so we knew if 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.359 we lost the first one we'd be right up against it. 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.840 And yeah, that was that was really rewarding. And then 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.560 obviously we won Game two and then I think we 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.040 pretty much partied for the. 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.639 Next three after that job done accomplished. 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:26.040 Yeah, that's really interesting you say that, Josh, because one 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.119 of the things that Queensland always win is the battle 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.120 of the build up. They win the battle of the narrative. 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.840 So regardless who's in the side and how great the 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.080 side is, whether it's Wally Lewis camera and all of 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.160 those plays, they paint themselves. They're successful, always painting themselves 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.679 as the down trot, the underdog, and we're going to 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.399 go after them. But what you've said is going away 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.399 on that tour and new blokes have been witnessed to 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.600 what happened, you blokes come back and always won the 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.960 battle of the narrative, you know, like We're going to 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.600 make these blokes who put shit on us, we're going 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.920 to square up on them. It's a really interesting one 0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:01.159 that that happens away on tour. It's the first time, Josh, 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:05.160 I've heard anything like that since nineteen eighty five. There 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.200 was a bat there was, Yeah, you heard that one 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.199 about eighty five. Terry Fernley coached New South Wales. They 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.359 won the series, then they won a way to New 0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.200 Zealand and Terry Fernley dropped all the Queenslanders. There was 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.840 only like I think one or two Queenslanders in the 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.359 whole squad and made it was they reckon. It was 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.280 an awful tour but there and that was sort of 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.240 sold for a long time. But that's interesting. 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:29.199 Yeah, and look when like it wasn't too bad if 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.359 they were kind of by themselves, but like when they 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.080 were in a group, that's when you noticed it. But 0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.520 that they I guess at that stage they had earned 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.880 that right because they won so many and they were 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.160 a tight knit bunch. But at stages it also came 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.200 across across as arrogance and we kind of used that 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:50.280 as well against him and one bloke who was instrumental 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.400 and getting us to win that series was Hainzy like 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.680 he was unbelievable in that fourteen series. And he kind 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.600 of said before game one, we were just about to 0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.000 get on the bus and he pretty much stood up 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.120 in front of the boys and said, I'm not leaving 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:03.360 anything out there tonight. 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.120 Boys come with me and we're going to get this 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:05.680 wind tonight. 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.040 That's very much unlike him from the things I've heard him. 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:14.160 That's that's that's extraordinary. Yeah, that's it's funny watching that, 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.720 watching Queensland Queensland players, they have this amazing link to 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.720 that jersey. And I've asked Queensland a few Queensland blakes 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.880 before of my era, before my era and after my era, 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.920 and I said him what is more special? What would 0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:28.840 you want? Would you want to Australiane jersey on your 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:32.640 wall or Queensland Jersey? Without his hesitation, they say Queensland 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.440 Jersey And maybe you know for sometimes over the years, 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.320 that's one thing that's probably held us back a little bit. 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.000 If you asked the blues player, what do you want 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.880 you wore? I would I would think that most people 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:43.960 were say in Australian Jersey. 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.800 I would say a Blues jersey. Yeah, okay, I would 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.920 say a blue. I loved Origin, Like when I was 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.360 a young kid, it was kind of one of the 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:55.920 only times that we got pizza. 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.920 Yeah, yeah, yes, Origin night. 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.800 Used to look forward to getting pizza and then played 0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.240 knee footy in the lounde room till the game started 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.640 at halftime knee footy and then watch it and like 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.200 I just grew up like loving the Blues players like 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.440 and a lot of success when I was younger too, 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:21.440 like the Blues side, so yeah, and like watching it 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.200 as a teenager and then getting to play first grade, 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.840 like I saw that as the pinnacle, and you know, 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.360 to play fifteen like is something that I'm really really 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:32.760 proud of. 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:37.720 It's amazing achievement. And but it's funny. I always think 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.760 Australia and people of my era because of how many 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.840 stepping stones you have to get, So it used to 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.640 be a stepping stone, right. I play good at club 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:48.400 level City Country, City, Country and give an idea. When 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.960 I my first ever Country Origin team I got picked in. 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.400 I walked into the room. There was Lory Daily, Bradley Clyde, 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:59.480 Ricky Stewart, Glan Lazarus, God Wish, Paul mcgreth and it 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.000 was like an Origin side and made it was so 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.479 serious and now if you played good in that, you 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.800 get picked in Origin and that was the one away 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.880 then if you play good Australia. 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.920 He looked now right Like even last year's Australia Tour, 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.440 Ethan Strange and Jacob Preston taken over in the squad. 0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:15.760 They had never made an Origin side, but it was like, oh, 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.680 you know, they'll learn a lot from that. They may 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.680 even be Origin players one day. Like they almost talked 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.200 about it like it was international and then Origin was 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.680 the peak. Were there many people back in your day 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.560 that actually went like made Australia first before Origin or 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.320 was it a natural progression Britain did? He did? 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.120 He went on the nine Tour and played for Australia 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:38.040 and then played Origin in twenty ten. And I think 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.560 my boy did too, actually he played. He was I 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.760 think he's the last person to ever go from country 0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.960 football to Australia and it was his one and only 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.560 tests nineteen seventy eight. He was playing for Dado and 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:49.720 picked in the Australians. 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:54.280 That's amazing. Mick Crohnin did, Yeah, got picked from Jarring 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.520 Gone played for Australia has only been down, you know, 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.959 only a couple of times. That's that's that's an amazing achieved. 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:03.800 This is what happens when you get over fifty. Josh, 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.360 you actually forgot what you're going to talk about. 0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:10.480 I got a question because I think because I don't 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.000 want to make you feel old. But you know, you 0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:14.920 talk about people you grew up watching State of Orogent. 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.719 I actually grew up watching you in State of Origin, 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.960 and I always found that you and your brother Brett, 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.959 no matter former club level or anything, people always talk 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.920 about you know, people in Queensland, they elevate for that jersey. 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.280 It always seemed like, no matter the former club land, 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.480 how your club team was going, anytime you and Brett 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.640 put an Origin jersey on your form would always you 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.920 guys would always lift to that level. Was that something 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.000 you guys prowered yourself on or were you guys always 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:39.360 just so motivated to put that jersey. 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.840 No, definitely something that we prided ourselves on. You know, 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.040 every time you play Origin, you've got to prove yourself 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.440 you've got it. Like you can play one Origin and 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.480 call yourself an Origin player, but you've got to you've 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:53.160 got to go out there and do the jump of 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.239 justice and prove that you deserve to be there, and 0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:00.360 no matter what the score was, no matter how long 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.840 the game was, in like, we just didn't change the 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.960 way we played. And I think the fact that I 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.200 left the Dragons and went across to the Dogs also 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.840 made us play better in the fact that we would 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.920 only play in rep sides together, so we both knew 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.080 that we had to be playing well to get that 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.680 Blues jersey as well. And then that confidence of being 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.600 the same team together and you know, playing alongside each 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.080 other just made us It was like we almost wanted 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:34.160 to outdo each other on that stage as well, so 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.920 that that always worked in our favor. 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:42.160 The dynamic between so myself and Andrew, although were three 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.440 years different, we've always grown up very very tight or 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:49.440 mostly like yeah, tighter than three years. And when we 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.600 play on the field together, I knew, or even just 0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.320 in life, when he does something, I know, if I 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.240 say something, I know exactly what he's been everything. And 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.480 on the football field, you know, I played with him 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.280 a little bit to juniors, but we played in the 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.840 backyard so much. And when I first got into NRL, 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.520 I was going oh, you know, trying to work with 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.799 the half back, and then halfag got injured, Joey came 0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:11.239 on the field and I'm like, oh man, this is 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.520 so easy. So that old dynamic. But before we talk 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.479 about playing with a twin, like growing up with a twin, 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.200 can you just let us know the dynamic? Do you 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.000 think the same. There's always talk about there almost been 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:26.080 this invisible link. 0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.800 Yeah, yeah, like I think you know, we were still 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:36.000 our best mates, and we were absolutely horrendous, like when 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.120 we're young, we're just getting to everything. No, I iPads 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.279 nothing just to distract her these days. But I was 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.360 always the more active one out of the two of 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:50.799 us and Scalliwag. Yeah, probably, And you could say that 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.680 still like I did a lot of our talking growing up, 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.719 Brett didn't. Brett just kind of let me go off 0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.640 and be the goose and just sat there and watched 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.600 and then he goes, I'd and have to do it, 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.799 and you did it all for me. But even like 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.919 when we were when we were young kids, my mum 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.200 caught me getting out of my cot, jumping into his court, 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.719 pushing his ass over the thing to get him out, 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.600 and we'd go and go and do stuff together, Like 0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.160 we we burned down a kitchen one time by putting 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.360 newspapers on the stove and said turning the stove on. 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.279 That was my older brother's first day, his first ever 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:24.680 gave a foot. He didn't get to go to it. 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:25.880 Evil motherfuckers. 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.760 My granddad was looking after us one time and we 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.879 went into a bathroom, took the cistern off and took 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.320 everything out and then flushed it and it just completely 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.799 flooded the bathroom. And below there was a two story house. 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.799 So we had to get all the work done. Margarine 0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.480 on the walls, just painted the walls, march, oh, mate. 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.279 There was so much stuff that we did. Like Mum 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.359 would try and go into the shopping center to go 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.200 and get something real quick, and she'd have a strapped 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.279 into her car seats and then she'd get back there'd 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.320 be a crowd around the car of me and beeping 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.440 on the horner and they're like whose kids are they? 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.919 And she'd be like, I don't even start. So we 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:08.160 were always thick as thieves going up And like I said, 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:13.160 like our rivalry was never bitter at any stages. It's 0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:17.160 always been competitive and always tried to outdo each other 0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.319 in the best way possible. And I guess when we 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:24.400 had that mindset, it was only going to end in success. 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:25.160 Yes, of course. 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.640 So and look, there was a lot of people like 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.080 when we were younger, like saying, oh, you're only on 0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.440 this side because you're old You're old boy in your 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:37.440 last name, and we just use that as as more fire, 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.319 you know, like to ignite, just to say no, we're not. 0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.560 This is why we're here because we worked bloody hard. 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.080 And when when we got into the first grade squads 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.399 and started training with the top squad, it was we 0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.240 were always trying to be number one into what we did. Okay, 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.920 if you have that kind of mindset, I guess it's 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:54.399 going to help. 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:58.480 So as juniors, who athletics is who won. 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.440 In primary school? I won, in high school, he won. 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.520 Who made the websides, who was first picked? 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.319 It just depended like one year I would I would 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.560 get in, and then he would get in the next 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.160 year and I wouldn't. So in terms of like your 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.520 Harold Matthews and your sty ball and stuff like that, well, 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:20.000 like we played well, I played group seven first because 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.080 I didn't get picked in the Alora sides. Brett got 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.840 picked in My first repside was SG ball when I 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:30.880 was eighteen, and like I, I trained like when he was. 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.680 He made that side in seventeen. I went away and 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.680 while he was doing all his stuff, I was in 0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.759 the gym trying to train as hard as I could 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.319 try and get to get myself to a level which 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.359 could compete with those blokes. And then made it when 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.440 we were eighteen. And then we kind of made a 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.359 pack to each other, like to give it our best 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.480 shot possible and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:49.839 work out. 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:51.160 Could I ask the question? 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:51.640 Actually? Sorry? 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.280 Maybe sorry? 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:54.880 What his MIC's on. 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.520 Your bed? See I'm about. 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:02.560 I was actually thinking about this the other day with 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.319 the couch from Brothers. It just popped into my brain. 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.360 When I first saw it South, I had a conversation 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.799 with Anthony Seabolt about the Burgers brothers, right, and he 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.400 was talking about the twins, the brothers, and he was 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.080 sort of saying they went off. They had a really 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.960 poor twenty seventeen and then twenty eighteen. I think it 0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.040 might have been Tom George went to the bench and 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.600 Tom really shot out of nowhere and started like overlapping 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.920 sort of George after he'd had that big period through 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.240 the competition winning stage. Did you feel like I remember 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.600 him saying that, like, if one of them done something good, 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.840 that everyone in the perception was across pretty much the 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.520 whole media landscape or whoever it was, would give them, 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.080 like a give them both points, and then if someone 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.520 did something bad, they'd give them both negative points. 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.000 Did you feel like linked? Yeah? No. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.120 Did you feel like, yeah. 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.719 Like in juniors all growing up that if like one 0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.359 person did something good to one person did something bad, 0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.440 it was like both your stock was affected by it. 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:53.799 Nah. 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.480 Maybe a little bit more so when we were younger, 0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.759 but I guess when we're older and home in first grade, 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.560 because we separated positions. I think, you know, they're both 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:07.440 front rowers, so that's where they probably got tired with 0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:08.400 the same brush. 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.320 And you couldn't even tell them a partnery both dropping 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:11.000 the ball equally. 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.719 Yeah, but yeah, I think the fact that I went 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.759 to center and Brett stayed on the wing, I think 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:20.360 that kind of gave us our individual nurse. I guess 0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.320 instead of putting us in the same. 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.239 Did you both like because you talk about one of 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.520 his making reps and then one doesn't. Did you both 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:31.840 hit puberty together like identical twins. That's a very personal question, 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:33.200 but like do you both All I. 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.720 Know is we stopped sharing together in primary schools. 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.680 Have your periods together, ye know how like you know, 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.000 a kid just like peaks when he said, like he'll 0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.920 just be overnight like sixteen, but rather might. 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.480 Be in high school at some stage. 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.520 But we didn't really shoot up until we're about seventeen eighteen, So. 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:53.720 You're both late bloomers. 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.959 Yeah, so like we thought we had dad's type. Yeah, 0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.080 we thought, well, we'll make we'll make do it. And 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.600 actually that probably helped us in a way as well, 0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.879 because you know, when you're smaller and all these kids 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.480 hit puberty and they get bigger than you, you've got 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.600 to rely on your skill and other strengths of your 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.440 game to get on that level as then. But then 0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.480 when you shoot up and they haven't worked hard, then 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.480 they go like that and you go like that. And 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.880 I think that's what probably was a good thing for 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:22.520 us as well. 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:23.480 School. 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:28.320 I was the one at school. Yeah, Brett. 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.360 Fred's an idiot. 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.000 He's not an idiot like I said he was. He 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.520 was kind of I was always the more active one, 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.200 but at school when you turned eighteen, you could sign 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:42.680 your own absentee slip. 0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:43.000 Ah. 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.920 Yes, yeah, but I think Brett was forging his for 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.000 a long time before he was eight, and I didn't 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.080 realize how many days he had off because like when 0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.839 you get to year eleven and twelve you'd have free periods. Yeah, 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.480 I think he did it so he'd have a double 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.239 free period one and he just wouldn't turn up. He 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.920 just wouldn't go. And then my mum got our report 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:04.560 cards in year twelve. I think he had like one 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:11.080 hundred and fifty days. What he's been so on them 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:11.840 the whole time. 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.160 And then when we got to the HC, he goes, 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.359 we did the mass math test together. He goes, oh, 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:19.680 what do you get for this? I said, oh, I 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.480 got this. He goes, now, I didn't get that that. 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.440 I didn't get that. So I think he got about 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.280 sixty in his I got just under eighty. 0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.560 Did you ever do like any pranks where you know 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.840 he he might be a really good at English, so 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:34.800 you go right over it, like you you pretend to 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.000 be Josh for this English test, but I'll do your 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:37.640 math test for you. 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.200 Like well, we were in in primary school. 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.560 We weren't allowed to be in the same classes, but 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.760 in high school we were pretty much in every single 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.680 class together, so we couldn't couldn't really do. 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:52.680 It about what about the dating suite, like did you 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:58.200 like you know, like okay, just trying to work there. 0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:58.560 This is. 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.640 No, but I'm meaning just like, for instance, let's say, 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:10.280 for instance, like Brett's got a girlfriend and she obviously 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.120 meets him, and she looks him and says he's hot. Yeah, 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.040 I like him. But then all of a sudden she 0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:20.160 meets the twin it goes oh, like okay, yeah, was 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:21.560 there like was there anything? 0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:22.400 Nah? 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.680 No, there was nothing like that. I mean I would 0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:29.879 have been the better of the two, but they would 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:35.560 like I think we kind of had different tastes in women, yeah, extend. 0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:43.120 Well, I was. I was probably more about quantity over quality, 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:45.399 but we did. 0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:45.919 We did. 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.640 There was one night where we did hook up with 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.719 the same ship and I don't think she realized, And 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.680 we didn't realize until the next morning when we were 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:55.759 a bit hung over and just go I gave her 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.719 a pash last night I said, did I what time. 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.640 You were in the same out there? That is because 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:06.240 it's also an interesting dynamic, right, because you're start seeing 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.400 a girl and you might introduce her to your friendship 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.880 group and you know, out of respect, she'll say, oh, 0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:13.719 you know, you might have a really good looking friend 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.440 in your and your group, and she goes, oh, no, 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.080 he's not good looking. I don't know why everyone lies here, 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:20.200 he's not good looking. But for you, guys, you bring 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.600 a girl home and she has no excuse but to 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.919 admit that. You know your twin is good looking because 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:25.799 he's identical to you. 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.279 That's a fair point. But I don't think that any 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:29.040 of them ever did. 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:35.279 So look on the dating, you know what I mean. Yeah, 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.920 beauty is on the inside, you know. 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.680 So you've got to realize that these two guys, Josh, 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.440 they only see what's in front of them. 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:44.200 They don't they don't look any deeper. 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:45.640 Because that's what halves do. They play with it in 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:46.120 front of him. 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:54.480 I was updating before we go into Uh okay, that's 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.560 the into part one. I reckon it would have enjoyed it. 0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:58.520 Head over to part two.