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Speaker 1: Fitz and Whip with Richie Podcast, the one I say,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, only you're.

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Speaker 2: All getting what you wanted.

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Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey, I'm Matthew McConaughey joins with Richie. Let me guess, Oh,

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Speaker 1: let me guess, Let me guess. You guys had this

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Speaker 1: scheduled for third forty five minutes from now. It got

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Speaker 1: rescheduled about eight minutes ago. That rescheduled reverb. That was

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Speaker 1: a bit tardy getting over there to the home base

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Speaker 1: where the four of you sit. You got a little colt.

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Speaker 1: It actually is happening now, and you're like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: I was just having my smoke up.

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Speaker 3: I was standing at the machine. Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 4: I believe we've came the big man waiting.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we l like sorry world.

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Speaker 2: Because Fitzy usually does his morning to the toilet. Yeah

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Speaker 2: this time, because so I want as much time as

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Speaker 2: I can with McConaughey. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you gotta do what you gotta do to

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Speaker 1: make sure those those eyes are blue and that back straighter.

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Speaker 2: Are you our favorite interview Matthew mcconoughe, I thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. It's good to have you back, sir.

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Speaker 1: Hey, good to see, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Love this and I love that you've got. I mean

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Speaker 3: we're familiar, of course with your book that you released,

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Speaker 3: but now just because is the brand new book which

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Speaker 3: I heard came to you in a dream, Mathew.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, its about two thirty in the look. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: get lucky and I dream to music or dream with

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Speaker 1: one of those nights and it was in my head

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Speaker 1: and I kind of had this little Bob Dylan riff,

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Speaker 1: and it was going like, just because they threw the dark,

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Speaker 1: don't mean they don't stuck. Just because I got skills,

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Speaker 1: don't mean there's no luck. And I got up. And

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Speaker 1: when you get up from a good dream, yep, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to break the rhythm of that dream. You

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Speaker 1: want to stay in that frequency in that world. So

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Speaker 1: I kind of walked to the pace of that rhythm

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Speaker 1: in my computer. I put on my re quorder, laid

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Speaker 1: down a couple of lines, and then sat down and

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Speaker 1: wrote four hours later, this is what you got?

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Speaker 3: How good is that?

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Speaker 2: Just Camillee, your wife, just do you do this regularly?

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Speaker 5: You just get up in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 5: go grab yourself a tequila or a whiskey and write

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Speaker 5: things down.

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Speaker 1: Does this happen regularly, hopefully? And I look at Yes,

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Speaker 1: it does happen, thankfully. When I'm creatively turned on, it does.

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Speaker 1: And look, she knows. An old family knows. Because I

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Speaker 1: don't sit down to write. I don't get up in

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Speaker 1: the morning, go I'm going to my office. I must

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Speaker 1: write a thousand words. I don't know how to do that.

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Speaker 1: What I do is I write all day. If anything

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Speaker 1: strikes me, if I hear you say something, oh what

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Speaker 1: a great turn of phrase, or something makes me laugh,

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Speaker 1: something makes me smile, something pisses me up, I'll write

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Speaker 1: it down through the day. So I write. Probably, I

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Speaker 1: take write broadly eight notes a day on average, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes those come to me. And when they come to me,

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Speaker 1: I just go. And the whole family knows. Let him go,

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Speaker 1: stay in the zone and I'll be back in a minute.

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Speaker 1: And I'm five minutes later.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back.

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Speaker 4: So I guess not every night you're up in the

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Speaker 4: just you wandering around the house aimlessly looking for a notepad.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have my video or have my voice voice

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Speaker 1: record a new age. The first thing, if I can

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Speaker 1: lay down just the even if I don't remember it off,

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Speaker 1: and write more about it the next day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, can I just say I love I love the

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Speaker 4: book and I'll just read a couple of lines from

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Speaker 4: the back because the boy, you know, we've been talking about.

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Speaker 4: So what's what's the book really about? And it's have

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Speaker 4: you ever thought there was more than one right answer

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Speaker 2: I love this great point.

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Speaker 4: That's because contradictions are all around us and they make

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Speaker 4: us who we are. Because what I love and what

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Speaker 4: I would like I have a nine year old daughter, Matthew,

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Speaker 4: and this is what I'd like her to get out

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Speaker 4: just because someone says this, doesn't mean you're always that,

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Speaker 4: You're not always one hundred percent this it always one

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Speaker 4: but that's what I got out of it when I

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Speaker 4: because it's fiction, there are illustrations of this great like

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Speaker 4: mean it can't be true. Cut to the young girl

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Speaker 4: actually being an astronaut. I was wondering, is there something

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Speaker 4: to dream that actually came to fruition?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Look, I whold my entire acting career when I went.

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Speaker 1: You to study film, I do I think I really

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Speaker 1: and by directing other people. My best form of directing

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Speaker 1: I started acting. Then all of a sudden got the

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Speaker 1: But I did not even have the confidence too. I

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Speaker 1: It was never even a dream in my mind. So

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Speaker 2: What was the breakthrough?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 5: What was the one what was the one role that

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Speaker 5: you got, Matthew? And you went, you know, I actually

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Speaker 5: feel really comfortable doing this, and I want to pursue it.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: First one day used so that's three lines. That turns

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Speaker 1: you're pretty good at this. You want to come back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. And I'm like, is this even legal? Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to come back tomorrow night. You all of

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Speaker 3: Because we were talking about on the show the other day, Manifestation,

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Speaker 3: and we were talking about people that create vision boards,

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Speaker 3: really set off an electric current that could end up anywhere.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you ever had a vision board,

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Speaker 3: But you know something I may have thrown out there

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Speaker 3: do you believe in that?

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Speaker 1: I do believe in it, and I do believe that

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Speaker 1: most of the target does draw the era all right.

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Speaker 1: So I am a fan of writing a headline, Oh

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Speaker 1: I love that, and then leaving my story towards the headline. Right.

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Speaker 1: You always get there in a different way you thought.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you get to the headline and you change

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Speaker 1: I do find that happens a lot you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's by process of elimination. Sometimes I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that crap mathematically, I'll have more that will feed me

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Speaker 4: I would love to be in your house, Matthew, and

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Speaker 4: be privy to your parenting, because just hearing you talk

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Speaker 4: that way and such like what.

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Speaker 2: Did you just say?

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Speaker 4: The arrow the target draws the arrow and stuff like that?

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Speaker 4: Is that how you tackle things with your kids? That

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Speaker 4: any anything is possible?

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Speaker 2: And now on that point.

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Speaker 4: I just did see that you've allowed your son to

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Speaker 4: finally have an Instagram account. But we're worried that maybe

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Speaker 4: you're only letting him have Instagram if he writes really

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Speaker 4: kind birthday messages to you.

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Speaker 5: You have you brew.

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Speaker 1: Come whatever, wake up and see that from my son.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love well? Actually can I On Slot?

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Speaker 5: There's a documentary out on Slice alone on Sylvester Stallone

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Speaker 5: and how hard he worked with Rocky and riding Rocky.

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Speaker 5: But the one thing that he regrets in his life

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Speaker 5: spent time with his family. So when you talk about

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Speaker 5: this and these, you know, these headlines that you have

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Speaker 5: in the distance, Matthew, where does family, where does that

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Speaker 2: And how important is that to you?

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Speaker 1: Good question that since I've had children and I've got

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Speaker 1: you know, thirty, I've got fifteen, thirteen, and ten, they're

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Speaker 1: inherently part of They're a non negotiable part of the headline.

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Speaker 1: I don't have headlines out there that don't involve them, Meaning, say,

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Speaker 1: I'm working on a new book, do I need to

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Speaker 1: go away for times two weeks on my own to

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Speaker 1: the desert without any family. Yeah, I do, but I

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Speaker 1: have to pick my spots. I'm not going to go

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Speaker 1: that's non negotiable. They're part of any headline of where

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to. They're part of any kind

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Speaker 1: of Look, I've told you all this before. I think

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Speaker 1: as soon as we had kids, Camilla said I we'll

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Speaker 1: and that's we've done that, and so she drops things.

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Speaker 1: The whole family comes with me. I don't I go

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Speaker 5: We got to get some portolage and just because available

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Speaker 2: very much for your time. Brother. Sorry, we were l

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