1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On Scyne Lives Australia. This is the Wider Penalty Show. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Paney Show. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, former Australian of the Year Grace Tame 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: at risk of being dumped by Nike after questionable social 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 3: media posts. 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: And while we. 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: Join me shortly to cover the day's top headlines, advertising 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: expert Richard Ralph Smith will tell us the three fatal 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: errors the Liberals made in their election advertising. Kosher Gator 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: will have the latest from the US, and later in 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: the hour They're Always Amusing. 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Alex Stein will tell us why he was attacked. 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: By lgbt QIA activists and talking about Left is losing it. 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Tonight's segment comes with a warning. 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 4: It felt so I don't know electric and yet still 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: so natural. 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: But first, the Prime Minister has a rubbish cause from 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: the Trump administration to lift astra is defense spending to 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 3: three point five percent of GDP from the current two percent. 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: After US Defense Secretary Pete Hegxed made the demand to 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: Defense Minister Richard Miles during a meeting at the Shangri 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: La Security Dialogue in Singapore. Here's what the PM had 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: to say, earlier today. 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 5: We determine our defense policy. Here where a sovereign nation 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 5: that need to have pride in our sovereignty and in 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 5: our capacity to make decisions in our national interest, in 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 5: our national interest, that is what we will do. 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: Former Army Chief Peter Leahy has warned that the government's 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: insistence on keeping defense spending low is an abrogation of 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: the primary responsibility of our elected representatives to provide for 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: the defense and security of the nation and the safety 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: of our servicemen and women. 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Those who wear. 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Australia's uniform place great trust in those who task and 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: equip them. This trust is not being honored. This comes 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: after close ally Japan doubled its defense budget amid expectations 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: that China will only get more aggressive, with Pete Hegsett 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: warning that a Chinese attack on Taiwan could be imminent. 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: Joining me now for more on this. 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: As Deputy Executive Director of the Institute of Public Affairs, 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: Daniel Ward Dan, just take a look at what's happening 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: with the NATO countries. They have increased their spending as 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Trump asked them to do, demanded that they do. Can 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: Australia really afford to be this reckless and recalcitrant. 45 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 6: Well, I think you know it's fair enough for the 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 6: Prime Minister to say that we'll decide what our own 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 6: defense policy is based on our own circumstances. But the 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 6: case for Australia to increase our defense spending is not 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 6: predicated necessarily in what the US is asking us to do, 50 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 6: but because we need to do it anyway, and we 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 6: should have been doing this a long time ago. Our 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 6: spending has been too low for too long, and the 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 6: money that we have allocated toward defense and our national 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 6: security has not been spent in an effective manner. We 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: are hopelessly unprepared for the challenges that we face in 56 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 6: our region and around the world, and this is only 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 6: set to get worse unless there is a dramatic and 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 6: urgent change to how we approach our defense policy. Obviously 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 6: closely related to this reader, it's not just our national 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 6: defense but also our energy security, and for as long 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 6: as we're committed to policies like net zero, our capacity 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 6: to have our own sovereign manufacturing capabilities is going to 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 6: be undermined. So this is caused not just to increase 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 6: our defense spending, but to have a complete rethink about 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 6: our energy policy as well. 66 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: And it's all good and well for the Prime Minister 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: to talk tough about sovereignty, But where was that tough 68 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: talk Dan when Chinese warships were doing their little exercises 69 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: unannounced close to the Australian border. I mean, I just 70 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: find it very inconsistent from the Prime Minister to talk 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: tough when a close ally wants us to increase our 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: defense spending, but he goes missing when the aggressive when 73 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: the aggressive attitude is coming from China. 74 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly right, and it's not just issues pertaining 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 6: to China, as you rightly identify, but also the number 76 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 6: of international agreements which we are signed up to or 77 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 6: are due to sign up to, for example, in relation 78 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 6: to future pandemics. I haven't heard the Prime Minister talk 79 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 6: about our national sovereignty in relation to the World Health Organization. 80 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 6: Nor have I heard him talk about national sovereignty as 81 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 6: it relates to climate change commitments. For example, the Paris 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 6: Climate Agreement is handing over a massive amount of power 83 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 6: to unelected international bureaucrats. So you're quite right to point 84 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 6: out that the Prime Minister is being very selective when 85 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 6: he discuss it discusses issues relating to our political and 86 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 6: national sovereignty. 87 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: Now, Western Australian Senator Drenda Cox, who was elected as 88 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: a member of the Greens not too long ago, has 89 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: made a shocked affection to the Labor Party, making this 90 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: announcement alongside the Prime Minister just yesterday Today. 91 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 7: I'm resigning from the Australian Greens to join the Labor 92 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 7: Party to sit as a later senator as part of 93 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 7: the Albanese government. 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: It is not a decision I've taken lightly. Now. 95 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: This is a member of parliament who was hit with 96 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: workplace misconduct and bullying allegations back in October last year, 97 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: with twenty of her staff reportedly quitting their jobs. 98 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: In a period of about three years. 99 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: But I've got to ask you, Dan, put aside the 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 3: personalities here. She was elected as a Greens member, but 101 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: people voted for the Greens and she was. 102 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: There to represent them. 103 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: Is it okay for her to be defecting within a 104 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: matter of weeks or she should be standing down and 105 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: the Greens select someone else to represent them. 106 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, reader. I think Australian's pretty sick 107 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 6: and tired of this. I haven't looked at what her 108 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 6: personal vote was, how many below the line votes she 109 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 6: got in the Senate, but I can't imagine it was 110 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 6: enough anywhere near enough to get her own quota to 111 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 6: get in. So you're right that she was elected as 112 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 6: a Greens member, not as a member of the Labor Party. 113 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 6: And to do this so soon after the election, I 114 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 6: think suggests that perhaps something was in play beforehand. I 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 6: don't know, but it seems that it's unlikely that this 116 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 6: kind of transition will take place in such a short 117 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 6: space of time. The other point that I would make 118 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 6: I watched Anthony Abernice's press conference today in Perth and 119 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 6: it was interesting and revealing what he said. He said 120 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 6: that if you're serious about social change in Australia, then 121 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 6: you need to support the Labor Party. Now, what this 122 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 6: suggests to me to mean is that Labour's social values 123 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 6: are the social values of the Greens. They're the social 124 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 6: values of treaty of truth telling, of reparations payments. I 125 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 6: believe that they will proceed with a voice to Parliament, 126 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 6: as Penny Wong said they would do prior to the 127 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 6: last federal election, and I think it's time for Labor 128 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 6: just to be honest with the Australian people and have 129 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 6: a formal coalition agreement with the Greens. If they're just 130 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 6: going to adopt Green's members as part of their party, 131 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 6: then they should do it in an open and transparent manner. 132 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: Well, they're in a coalition with the Greens, Let's be honest. 133 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: The Greens and Labor depend on each other and Labour 134 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't be where they are without the Greens support. So 135 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: whether it's an official coalition agreement as the Libs and 136 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: Nets have or an unofficial one like Labor and Greens, 137 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: it works pretty much in the same way. 138 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Victoria. 139 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: Former Premier Jeff Kenned has made another some would say 140 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: desperate attempt to try to save John Pursudo, the former 141 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 3: opposition leader, pend a letter to the Victorian Liberal Party's 142 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: Administrative Committee begging them to pay the entire two point 143 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: three million debt that mister Pursudo now owes Liberal MP 144 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: Moor Deeming. If he doesn't come across with his money, 145 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: if he doesn't find it somewhere dan he faces bankruptcy, 146 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: which means it will step down from parliament. Jeff Kenned argues, 147 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: not supporting the pursuito family now denies the fundamental values 148 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: the party was founded upon. It is wrong to ask 149 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: him to foot the bills to bankrupt him and his family, 150 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: wrong to ask him to borrow money from the capital 151 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: funds we might have at our disposal. I implore you 152 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: to act decisively. We must put the issue to bed quickly. 153 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: Remember money can always be replaced, a change of government cannot. 154 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: I've got a lot of thoughts on. 155 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: This one, Dad, but I'm interested in yours. My first 156 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: thought though, is has Jeff forgotten who the victim here is. 157 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: It's Moira Deeming, it is not John Persudo. 158 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 8: Yeah. 159 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: Look, I mean I have a lot of respect for 160 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 6: Jeff Kenned and everything he's done for Victoria, but I'm 161 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 6: not sure this is quite the right way to go. 162 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 6: You know, Moira Deeming is entitled to seek compensation as 163 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 6: per the court order. You know, she's well within her 164 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 6: rights to do that. And also the Liberal Party was 165 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 6: founded on the value of freedom of speech, which is 166 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 6: what Moyra was exercising. And she was really, you know, 167 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 6: the victim of what happened to her and went through 168 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 6: that legal process. So you know, this has been a 169 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: disaster for the Victorian Liberal Party from the very beginning, 170 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 6: and I think it really shows what happens when firstly 171 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 6: you lose sight of what your values are, secondly when 172 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 6: you become intimidated by your political opponents. It was very 173 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 6: clear from the court documents that one of the reasons 174 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 6: why the decision was taken to go after more redeeming 175 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: was because of concerns that Daniel Andrews was going to 176 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 6: exploit it for political purposes, as of course he would, 177 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: being a very effective political operator. But look, look what's 178 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 6: happened now. I mean, this all happened because they didn't 179 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 6: stand up to Daniel Andrews and the Labor government. So look, 180 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 6: they just need to draw a line under this and 181 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 6: try to get clean air as they head to the 182 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 6: next election in November of next year. 183 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: They showed such poor political judgment in this case. It 184 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: was actually an opportunity for them to lay a glove 185 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: on Dan Andrews. And that's fairly rare during Dan Andrews's 186 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: political career that the Libs would hurt him any way. 187 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: But they had an opportunity there because this is an 188 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: eighty twenty issue, and they decided to side with the 189 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: twenty percent, along with Labor and the Greens just idiotic 190 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: in the extreme. I want to ask you about former 191 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: Australian of the Year Grace Tame. She has come under 192 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: five for her anti Israel social media content, which has 193 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: now put her partnership with Nike at risk. The megasports 194 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: brand has said via a spokeswoman, Nike does not stand 195 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: for any form of discrimination, including anti Semitism. We take 196 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: this matter very seriously and are in touch with Grace's 197 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: team to understand the matter further. 198 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 9: Now. 199 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: The Australian has done some great reports on this story. 200 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: They reported that Tame reposted a statement from Palestinian writer 201 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: Mohammed el Kurd in which she appeared to condone the 202 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: murder of two Israeli embassy officials in Washington and angrily 203 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: attacked journalists who reported that the slayings were an act 204 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: of anti Semitism. 205 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: Yes, the former. 206 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: Australian of the Year is a endorsement of El Kurd 207 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: and the message she published last week is deeply troubling. 208 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: He wrote. 209 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: The media class is scrambling to reframe the shooting that 210 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: targeted to Israeli's state officials as a random anti Semitic attack. 211 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: Tame reposted this to her two hundred and sixty thousand followers, 212 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: even though it was undeniably and by the alleged shooter's 213 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: own admission, a response to the ongoing Israeli assault on Gaza, 214 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: which killed one hundred and seven Palestinians in the last 215 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: twenty four hours alone. Dan, it's astonishing to me that 216 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: she would endorse share this in any way back a 217 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: position that is so extreme. 218 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. 219 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 6: Well, the first thing is good on Nike for doing this. 220 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 6: I mean, quite often we rightfully call out big businesses 221 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 6: for dividing us and doing the wrong thing. Well, Nike 222 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 6: is at least, you know, standing up and is asking 223 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 6: for an explanation from Grace Tame, and that's the right 224 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 6: thing for them to do. I think it's a shame 225 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 6: for Grace Tame because she has rightly been acknowledged for 226 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 6: the work that she's done in advocating for and raising 227 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 6: the profile of victims of domestic violence and abuse, and 228 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 6: that's a very important cause. But for her to go 229 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 6: down the road of political activism I think has really 230 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 6: let down the important work that she did. Of course, 231 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 6: she famously wore the f Murdoch t shirt when she 232 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 6: was meeting with the Prime Minister some time ago and 233 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 6: has a history of political activism. Now, if she wants 234 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 6: to do. 235 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 7: That, that's up to her. 236 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 6: I mean, it's entirely up to Grace Tame if she 237 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 6: wants to go down that road. But I don't think 238 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 6: you can at one time be an advocate for a 239 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 6: very important cause and at the same time also see 240 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 6: yourself as a political advocate for what are very divisive 241 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 6: cultural issues as well. 242 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, and I think as Australian of the Year 243 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: she's not in that role anymore. But I think you 244 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: have to be a political you have to be a 245 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: unifying figure. You can't be a divisive activist. And we've 246 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: too often put given that on our two divisive activists. 247 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 3: It started well before Grace Tame, Dan Wild, thank you 248 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: so much for your time tonight, joining me now to 249 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: discuss how the Coalition got its advertising campaign so terribly wrong. 250 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: Is DPR and. 251 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: Co advertising co founder Richard Ralph Smith. Richard, you've come 252 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: up with three key areas the Coalition failed with its 253 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,119 Speaker 3: election messaging. 254 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: Take us through it. 255 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, Well, in marketing terms, we can speak brand, 256 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 10: product and retail, and so if you think about brand. 257 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 10: That's a long term, strategic investment in what you stand for. 258 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 10: At the other end of the spectrum, you've got retail, 259 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 10: which is intended to be a short term, tactical expenditure 260 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 10: designed to drive immediate sales. What the Liberal Party did 261 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 10: is they had all their attention over here and ignored 262 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 10: their brand almost entirely. 263 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: So you're saying the substance wasn't there. They actually didn't 264 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: have the policies to sell. It wasn't the selling that 265 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: they failed it. It was the stuff that matters. They 266 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: are what they stand. 267 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 10: For exactly even above the policy level, the values and 268 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 10: the principles that give rise to the policies in the 269 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 10: first place. And that's something you don't like. John Howard 270 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 10: used to say, you don't fatten a pig on market day, 271 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 10: You've got to do that years in advance. And so 272 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 10: Australians now no one is buying the Liberal brand. The 273 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 10: reason they're not buying the Liberal brand is that nobody's selling. 274 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 11: It, you know. 275 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: And that is what we've been saying on Sky News, 276 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: one of the few media outlets who's been pointing out 277 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: that the Liberals, well since the Voice where they had 278 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: the Trump for they did stand for something and articulated 279 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: that position very well. They haven't stood for anything. Where 280 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: is the policy differentiation? Where are they taking it up 281 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: to labor and giving the electro to clear choice and 282 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: saying this is who we are what we stand for. 283 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: And you're right, it's too late to do it during 284 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: an election campaign. You need to have come to that 285 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: position organically throughout. You can't just show up and say 286 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: we are this. 287 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 10: You have to drive it and you have to believe 288 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 10: in it. And even at the highest brand level that 289 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,479 Speaker 10: they really spoke about was their line for the election campaign, 290 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 10: Let's get Australia back on track. Yeah, okay, so what's 291 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 10: the track? 292 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 8: Where does it lead? 293 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 9: Yeah? 294 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: It's a gym that you included net zero that would 295 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: not even deviate on a policy areas as harmful to 296 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: their brand as net zero and I think they still 297 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: understand that now. Talking about social media, because so many 298 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: now consume their news consumed information via social media, I've 299 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: got to say Labour's campaign wasn't particularly great, but the 300 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: Coalition seemed to particularly str. 301 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: In that space. 302 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 3: How can they reach younger voters effectively through social media? 303 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 10: Well, the important thing is don't try so hard to 304 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 10: fit into your environment that you change who you are. 305 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 10: It really comes back again to being confident about who 306 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 10: you are and saying these are our principles and then 307 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 10: finding a way to express it in a way that's 308 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 10: new and true for young people. Trying to find a 309 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 10: way to really articulate that without trashing your brand by 310 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 10: doing things such as that ridiculous disk track which was 311 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 10: entirely debranding. 312 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: For the Liberals, Yeah, that was a little bit cringe 313 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 3: labor though landslide victory, so they can take all the plauded. 314 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: What did they do well or were they just lucky 315 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: to have really little opposition at this election? 316 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 10: I think in large part it is the latter. This 317 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 10: was not a contest of high minded ideals expressed brilliantly 318 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 10: by two top notch opponents. They didn't do anything particularly 319 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 10: well from a brand point of view. What they did 320 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 10: do is define Peter Dutton on their terms very very well, 321 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 10: and they had the most powerful negative line of the campaign, 322 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 10: which was he cuts you pay. And they managed to 323 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 10: again frame nuclear in their own terms, making up their 324 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 10: own numbers, convincing people of those numbers and saying this 325 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 10: is what is going to cost six. 326 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: Negative campaigns are enormously effective. People say they don't like it, 327 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 3: that don't like when politicians or political parties go negative, 328 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: but the proof is there that they work, and that's 329 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: why labor go to these sorts of campaigns, whether it's 330 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: many scale, nuclear or cuts. 331 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 10: They work better for the incumbent than they do for 332 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 10: the opposition. And in this situation, you know, the environment 333 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 10: was that we had a really uncertain geostrategic ron happening. 334 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 10: We had you know, China conducting live fire exercises three 335 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 10: hundred k's off the coach of Sydney. We had Trump 336 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 10: firing off tariffs every which way. People were feeling nervous 337 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 10: and sort of leaning towards the incumbent, and that would 338 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 10: have required the liberals to define something really really compelling 339 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 10: based on liberal values to do it. It was an 340 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 10: uphill battle in the first place, yes, but they just 341 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 10: couldn't do it. I think they were sort of this 342 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 10: time late last year, they were in the lead in 343 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 10: terms of the polls, and also Peter Dutton's preferred prime 344 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 10: minister rating was in a really really good space. He 345 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 10: looked like a leader. Late last year it was as 346 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 10: if they were defending a lead that didn't really. 347 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: Exist, and I think they got. 348 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 10: Failed to deliver on a brand plan. 349 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: They were playing like they were in front, and I 350 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: think that we're getting some poor polling data that they 351 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 3: were relying on and ignoring everything else around them. 352 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: Richard Ralph Smith, thank you so much for your time tonight. 353 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 9: All right, thank you. 354 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: Still to come. 355 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: Lefties a losing it? Plus will we see record amounts. 356 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: Of corporate virtue signaling during Pride Month? 357 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: Kosher Gator has the details. You're watching the Reader Panny 358 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 3: Show and it's time for Lefty's Losing It. I don't 359 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: know how to apologize for what I'm about to show you, 360 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: but just know this hurts me as much as it's 361 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: going to hurt you. Let's have a look at trump 362 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: deranged Rosie O'Donnell, who has fled the country because of potus, 363 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: but she has returned from Ireland to film this hot 364 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: mess for Sex and the City spin off. 365 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: Just like that, enough talking, let's just dive right in. 366 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: It felt so I don't know electric and yet still 367 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: so natural. I never dreamed my first time could be 368 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: both those things. 369 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: First time. 370 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: You were a virgin, Yes, I'm a nun. 371 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: Yes, that was Rosi o'donald playing a virgin none called 372 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: Mary who ends up in bed with Miranda played by 373 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: Cynthia and Nixon, the worst character on Sex and the City. 374 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: I think you'll agree, and that show jumped the shark 375 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: many many moons ago. 376 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: But at least Rosi o'donald. 377 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: And Cynthia Nixon could share their deranged hatred of Trump 378 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: together in between takes. Both are ardent Trump haters and mothers. 379 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: Of non binary or trans children. 380 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: Remember Cynthia Nixon boasted about having her daughter's healthy breast removed. 381 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: They call it top surgery. My hand had his. 382 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 12: Top surgery, ass NYU a number of years ago. Please 383 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 12: work pastic His surgeon was the best we could have imagined. 384 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: It's time to check in with Joe Biden. 385 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: The former president has his good days and he has 386 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: his bad days. 387 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: But every day is a delusional day. Listen to this. 388 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: And there's also been a lot of discussion recently about 389 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: your mental and physical capabilities while you were in office. 390 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 13: You can see that I'm mentally incompetent and I can't walk, 391 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 13: and I can beat the. 392 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: Hell out of both of them. Do you want to 393 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: reply to any of those reports, and also to the 394 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: fact that there are some Democrats who are now questioning 395 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: whether you should have run for reelection in the first place. 396 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: Run against me that. 397 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: Because I'd have beaten it. 398 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: Do you have any regrets? 399 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 11: No, I don't know. 400 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 9: Your guests. 401 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: Naylon Mask has had enough of his fellow billionaires talking trash. 402 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: Listen here as he gives Bill Gates. 403 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: An almighty spray after Gates made all sorts of unfounded 404 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: claims about us aid. 405 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: He starts by calling Gates a liar. 406 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 14: I know you've said that already I. 407 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 7: Wanted and I'm just who does Biggates think he is 408 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 7: to make comments about the welfare of children, given that 409 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 7: he is before quented Jeffrey Epstein, Okay. 410 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 9: Well. 411 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 14: He's he's he said he regrets those. 412 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 8: And he's he spent he spent a lot. 413 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 14: He spent a lot of his own money on on 414 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 14: philanthropy around the world over the years. My question to 415 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 14: you is have you looked at the data to check 416 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 14: if he might be right that the cuts to US 417 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 14: A I. D might cost millions of lives. 418 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 7: Yes, I'd like him to preshure us any any evidence whatsoever. 419 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: None whatsoever, And bono you know him from you two. 420 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: He was making the same bas claims on Joe Rogan, 421 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: and Rogan was not having it. 422 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 15: Just recent report, it's not proven, but there's surveillance enough 423 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 15: suggests three hundred thousand people have already died from just 424 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 15: this cutoff, this hard cut of usaid. 425 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 16: The problem is, for sure, there have been a lot 426 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 16: of organizations that do tremendous good all throughout the world. Also, 427 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 16: for sure it was a money laundering operation. For sure, 428 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 16: there was no oversight. For sure, billions of dollars are missing. 429 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 16: In fact, trillions that are unaccounted for that were sent 430 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 16: off into various they don't even know where because there's 431 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 16: no receipts. The way Elon must describe that, he said, 432 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 16: if any of this was done by a public company, 433 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 16: the company would be delisted and the executives be in prison. 434 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 16: But in the United States, this is a standard. When Biden 435 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 16: left office, when it was clear that Trump won, in 436 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 16: the seventy three days, they spent ninety three billion dollars 437 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 16: from the the Department of Energy on just radical loans, 438 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 16: just throwing money into places and there's no oversight. 439 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: Well, folks, it's June, and that means it's Pride month, 440 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 3: and they started celebrating early in West Hollywood. Not sure 441 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: that's suitable for young kids in the audience there. But 442 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: it's not just the public nudity, it's the corporate virtue 443 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: signaling we're going to see in the coming weeks. Yes, 444 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: a whole month of far left foolishness, but for some 445 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: it's never enough. 446 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: Watch this Karen a whine about Target getting. 447 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: Rid of their LGBTQIA plus plus display and replacing it 448 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: with a pro American one. 449 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 17: Happy Pride Month. In my Target that used to have 450 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 17: the pride section, it's now all USA. Yay USA. And honestly, 451 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 17: my dad serves the military, and I'd love to be 452 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 17: really proud of this nation, but it's hard to be 453 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 17: proud of. 454 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: It under Donald Trump. 455 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 17: But hey, you know, while you're here, pick up a 456 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 17: USA bikini, you know why not? Yeah, Target's really taken 457 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 17: this anti DEI thing to another level. 458 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: Oh Dear God forbid anyone should have pride in their country. 459 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure your granddad risked his life so Target could 460 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: sell breastbinders to young girls. 461 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Sky News contributor Kosher. 462 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: Gaeta Kosher, there's been a cultural shift in the US, 463 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: It's undoubted. And are we going to see things like 464 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: Pride Month marked differently from the corporate world. 465 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: Are we going to have the same. 466 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: Sort of activism and enthusiasm as we have seen in 467 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: previous years. 468 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 9: Seemingly not. 469 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 11: It looks like we have finally broken the camel's back 470 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 11: on this issue. It almost just send it as quickly 471 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 11: blink and you missed it as it ascended just in 472 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 11: the last five years. And you see, you know, the 473 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 11: Silicon Valley titans and the high finance people and cultural 474 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 11: icons all coming out and endorsing Trump in this election. 475 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 9: Everything sort of trickles down from that, I think. 476 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 11: And you haven't seen mass backlash or young people rioting 477 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 11: and leaving their hypie Silicon Valley jobs or New York 478 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 11: jobs or anything like that. And you don't see corporations 479 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 11: putting the little black square, a little ratio square on 480 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 11: their LinkedIn profiles. So maybe we are past the worst. 481 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 9: Dare I say? 482 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 3: I think the corporates are seeing there is actually a 483 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: price to pay, and it's probably a bit more clever 484 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: to be a political and not alienate at least a 485 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: portion of your customer basis significant portion and I think 486 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: USAID really exposed just how much of this far left activism, 487 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: this far left movement was funded unwittingly by tax payers. 488 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't just some organic grassroots movement. 489 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 11: That's been one of so many examples of just as 490 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 11: much as we know what's going on in the culture, 491 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 11: there's so much more. And when you think you've got 492 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 11: the whole picture, there's yet more that we don't know. 493 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 11: And you say, idea, it was about fifty billion dollars 494 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 11: a year in spending, It's like a billion dollars a week. 495 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 11: It's not a small amount, and even worse, as you say, 496 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 11: because more than the money and the wastage financially, what 497 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 11: it was doing domestically and all around the world. And 498 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 11: it's completely been gutted. Ninety percent of contracts have been terminated. Yes, 499 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 11: it was challenged in a court. There are a few 500 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 11: challenges still working its way up, but by and large 501 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 11: this organization has been fundamentally changed, and I think everybody 502 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 11: is for the better, and maybe we can do something 503 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 11: without tax payer money. Yeap. 504 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: People's eyes have been opened, even those of us who 505 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: are very engaged in this space. I was shocked by 506 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: the money that was being spent taxpayers money all around 507 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: the world pushing this far left activism. 508 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: Bizarre use of taxpayers money. 509 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: And whilst we're talking about usiidal On mass the man 510 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: who was responsible for cutting so much of that waste 511 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: and fraud, well, he had some parting words for members 512 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: of the media, pointing out that they are the ones 513 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: responsible for so many of the slings and arrows that 514 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: have come his way, and they are discredited. 515 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 8: The President mentioned that you had to deal with all 516 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 8: the slings and arrows during your time. 517 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 7: It does there's this New York other people, you know, 518 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 7: some of the media re organizations, Let's room work, the lingers. 519 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 8: Well, so. 520 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: There is a New York Times before today that accuses 521 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: you of blurring way between. 522 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 18: New York Times. 523 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 7: Is that the same publication that got a Bulletzer prize 524 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 7: for a false reporting on the Russia Gate? Is it 525 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 7: the same organization? I got to check my tots, so 526 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 7: I think they. 527 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 8: I think the. 528 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 7: Judge just ruled against New York Times for their lies 529 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 7: about the Russia Gate hoax, and that they might have 530 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 7: to give back that Fullitzer price that New York Times. 531 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: Let's move on, and we've seen this from Trump administration 532 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: across the board almost whether it's heg Zeth, where it's 533 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: Rubio Musk there, who you know isn't a politician, but 534 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: he had a fairly significant role. They are just hitting 535 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: back the media hard. They've taken on Trump's attitude towards 536 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: the media, and you've got to say it's pretty effective. 537 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 9: For sure. 538 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 11: It's not your grandmother's Republican Party and this whole group 539 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 11: starting the Trump leading he really showed people how to 540 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 11: fight and when things go as bad as they've gone, 541 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 11: you're kind of past nice manners and niceties and all 542 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 11: those things we saw from John McCain and Mitt Romney 543 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 11: and even Ronald Reagan. It was just a different world 544 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 11: that we're living in and here you've got to be 545 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 11: willing to roll up your sleeves and fight, and they 546 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 11: kind of relish it. 547 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 9: So it's not everybody's cup of tea. 548 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 11: Always running to people who don't like it or wish 549 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 11: the demeanor would be different. 550 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 9: But I think it's very effective. 551 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 3: And a lot of people, actually, if they want to 552 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: go back to the gop of Mitt Romney or McCain 553 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: or good luck to them, because that's the GoPay of losers. 554 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: And those days are over. The voters have no appetite 555 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: for that. So never mind whether Trump's there or not. 556 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: The voters don't want that. They don't want to have 557 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: polite losers. Now, we saw the way the media treated 558 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: Elon Mask after his salute from the Heart. They were 559 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: calling him a Nazi, saying he was doing some sort 560 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: of a Hile Hitler salute, which was just so dishonest. Well, 561 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: Democrat Cory Booker did something well pretty much exactly the 562 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: same in the last couple of days, and there was 563 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: no condemnation, no accusations. 564 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: Many didn't even report on it. 565 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: And Kosh, I guess this goes to the point of 566 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: why they feel like the media deserves to be treated 567 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: with this stain, because it's just discredited itself. 568 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 9: Time and again. 569 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 11: And when you think they can't sink any lawa you 570 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 11: can see these examples. And it's not even about hypocrisy, 571 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 11: it's about hierarchy. So Cory Brooker, you see, is a 572 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 11: higher in the totem pool where he gets extra protections 573 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 11: that the others side doesn't. And there's many people who've 574 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 11: done this, and I think the good thing is that 575 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 11: media has been democratized because of the Internet and social 576 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 11: media that these clips do get out there other programs 577 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 11: like yours and the social media covers it, and that 578 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 11: just further delegitimizes the mainstream media unless they wise up 579 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 11: to that, but they don't seem to be doing it 580 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 11: as far. 581 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 3: And sticking with the media, yesterday we had CNN claimbing 582 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: that the Colorado terror attack was carried out by a 583 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: white man. And here we have NBC going to great 584 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: lengths not to use the words where it's like Jews 585 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: or even pro Israel, calling the victims of the attack 586 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: Gaza hostage awareness marches. 587 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: I mean, really kosher. 588 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 11: If the backdrop wasn't as tragically, it is almost funny. 589 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 11: And they really are the kings and queens of linguistics. 590 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 9: They always have been. 591 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 11: So you have the Gaza awareness marchers, you had the 592 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 11: Maryland Dad that famous case, and even back in during 593 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 11: then President Oba Hillary Clinton's I'm reminded of the story 594 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 11: of the terrorist attack in Colombo, Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday, 595 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 11: and both of them referred to them as Easter worshippers 596 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 11: because they couldn't use the word Christians. So they are 597 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 11: very aware of words and which words they use, which 598 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 11: words they don't use. But again to your point earlier, 599 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 11: in this day and age of just podcasts and media 600 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 11: and social media, we all are discussing it and seeing 601 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 11: right through it. So I just think it's a losing strategy, 602 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 11: but they seem to be addicted to it. 603 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 9: Now. 604 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: In recent weeks, we've had a governor's house fire bombed, 605 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: We've had two Israelian busy workers murdered in cold blood, 606 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: and now this attack in Colorado several pro israel protests 607 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: is set alight, badly hurt. If there was a right 608 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: wing group or movement behind these sorts of attacks, it 609 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: would be leading news coverage all around the world. It 610 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: would all be as such a crisis that needs to 611 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: be addressed. But it seems like we've got a fairly 612 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: permissive attitude when it comes to violence from the left. 613 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: We saw that throughout the BLM riots and we're seeing 614 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: it again with this anti Israeli movement. 615 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 11: It feels like it's the next dimension on this continuum 616 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 11: where we talked at the top about culture and the 617 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 11: culture is shifting and corporates aren't virtually signaling as much. 618 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 11: Then we've talked about the media losing its potency and 619 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 11: legitimacy because we can all see through their games. And 620 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 11: now this is where it gets really serious, where it's 621 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 11: actual violence taking place, and that double standard again still continues. 622 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 9: And as you say, BLM or even. 623 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 11: The Antifa rights before that in Portland elsewhere. So this 624 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 11: feels like the last printerier. If the right can somehow 625 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 11: crack this and just reclaim the narrative around that which 626 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 11: they're doing the current administration in terms of their line 627 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 11: order agenda, that will be another big win in this 628 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 11: continuum that we're on. 629 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: And we say that everywhere there was Antifa. 630 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: You mentioned there was some violence in California where they 631 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: were there to protest against I think some Christians who 632 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: were gathering, And we see it right here in Australia 633 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: when we have the let women speak much and there's 634 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: always some sort of a counter protest because they're not 635 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: allowed to speak without the far left activist disrupting them. 636 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: On Colorado, there's been. 637 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 3: A lot of commentary in the past twenty four hours 638 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: about this image summing up the modern Democrat Party. 639 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: Let's have a look at it, Kosha, what do you 640 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: say to this. There's a lot happening in that in 641 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: that picture. 642 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 11: Oh my goodness, I could say modern Democrat Party in 643 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 11: an AI simulator, and I don't think it would come 644 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 11: out very different from that. You've got the flag in 645 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 11: the background, it's like perfectly framed. In the middle, you 646 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 11: have this violent person. It's the heinous ax he committed. 647 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 11: He's shirtless, he's not in particularly good shape. He's an 648 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 11: illegal immigrant. Yeah, throwing him all the top cocktail, And 649 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 11: I think it does sum it up everything we just 650 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 11: talked about, the cultural virtue signaling, the way the media 651 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 11: is covering it, and then the violence from the left 652 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 11: that's been getting away, but not for long. We'll see 653 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 11: what's going to happen. Some judge is likely going to 654 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 11: block his deportation. But cases like this only help the 655 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 11: cause politically on the other side because these are not 656 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 11: sympathetic figures. 657 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: And Trump's made that point. 658 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: The Muhammad Solomon, the alleged attacker, there's an Egyptian national 659 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: in the US illegally. 660 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: He overstate his visa, entered the. 661 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: US during the Biden administration sort asylum in twenty twenty two, 662 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: was granted the right to work. Is the Biden administration 663 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: in any way to blame for this. They let millions 664 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: through unvetted, and you're going to get characters like this 665 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: amongst them. 666 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 11: Percent I think this really personifies what we know. So 667 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 11: we know the numbers and the ridiculous new eleven million 668 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 11: plus that were allowed to pour in through four years, 669 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 11: and then the particulars of this case where he was 670 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 11: caught even by the ace Agans in the Biden administration, 671 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 11: but was let go because that was the policy wele 672 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 11: catching release and then he was rewarded with legal work 673 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 11: access even though he oversteed his visa. So you're just 674 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 11: creating magnets and rewarding So every issue that we talk 675 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 11: about August presonified in this case, and then he goes 676 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 11: and does what he did, So it really just puts 677 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 11: a huge red line, I think, under this issue in 678 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 11: a way that had never happened before. And hopefully the 679 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 11: current administration can take advantage of that momentum and do 680 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 11: something about it. 681 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, we talked about that cultural shift 682 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: across the US, Let's have a look at another example 683 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: of that. This is something we wouldn't have seen a 684 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: few years ago, certainly wouldn't have seen it in Trump's 685 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: first term. 686 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: What yere as football legends. 687 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 3: And current Pittsburgh Steelers stars pay tribute to Donald Trump 688 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. 689 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 14: I'd like to present to this to a Hall of 690 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 14: Fame President, please accept that. 691 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 15: How about this president of ours? 692 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 5: Huh? 693 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: Just wanted to say, God bless you President Trump, and 694 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: God bless you Pittsburgh. 695 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 3: Now, that was Pittsburgh Steeler's legend and Vietnam warvet Rocky 696 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 3: Blayer and current quarterback Mason Rudolph and defensive back Miles 697 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: Killer Brood. I mean, that is something we wouldn't have 698 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 3: seen kosher just a few years ago. Those players, current 699 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: players would have been canceled. They would have made all 700 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 3: sorts of uproar. No one really was bothered by any 701 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 3: of that. I didn't say too much backlash at all. 702 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 9: So true. 703 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 11: You know, there's that old adage I think attributed to 704 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 11: Andrew Breitbart that politics is downstream from culture. Every once 705 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 11: in a while, in a case like Donald Trump, who's 706 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 11: very unique, it almost was like culture is downstream from politics, 707 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 11: and just his whole story even before politics and since 708 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 11: then the comeback, being the under dog, being counted out 709 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 11: and coming is like classic American stuff. 710 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 9: Everybody loves that. 711 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 11: Story, even though they've been trained not to admit it, 712 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 11: and this carries a lot of weight when you have 713 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 11: NFL stars and Hall of Fame legends doing that. The 714 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 11: other piece two, since it's a Steelers Pittsburgh that is 715 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 11: a key constituency of Trump Pennsylvania and particularly that town. 716 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 11: The Steelers and miners didn't go to Republicans since Ronald 717 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 11: Reagan forty years and he in both terms turned that around, 718 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 11: and I think that's sort of the other piece of it, 719 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 11: and the Steelers, of course exemplify that part of his constituency. 720 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 3: Kosher Gator, thanks for your time tonight coming up, But 721 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: why was Alex Stein attacked by LGBTQIA activists? 722 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: It joins me next to explain, welcome back. 723 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 9: Now. 724 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 3: We've seen morale and recruitment numbers in the US Army 725 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 3: saw in recent months after President Donald Trump's election triumph, 726 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 3: and get ready to see those numbers saw further because 727 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 3: the ad campaigns have changed a bit. They've gone from 728 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: this under the Biden administration. 729 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 19: Although he had a fairly typical childhood, took ballet, played violin, 730 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 19: I also marched for equality. I like to think I've 731 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 19: been defending freedom from an early age. 732 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,240 Speaker 2: Yep, that was under Biden. This is the latest. 733 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 16: No more distractions, no more electric tanks, no more gender confusion, 734 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 16: no more climate change worship. 735 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 8: We are laser focused on our mission of war FI. 736 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 13: We will measure our success not only by the battles 737 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 13: we win, but also by the wars we end, and 738 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 13: perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. 739 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 8: It's called peace through strength. 740 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 13: Through our power and might, we will leave the world 741 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 13: to peace. Our friends will respect us, our enemies will 742 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 13: fear us, and the whole world will admire the unrivaled 743 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 13: greatness of the United States military. We will replenish the 744 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 13: pride of our armed forces and the recruitment crisis. 745 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 10: We don't fight because we hate what's in front of us. 746 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 8: We fight because we love us behind us. 747 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 13: God bless you, God bless our armpornsers, God bless our 748 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 13: men and women serving overseas, and God bless the United 749 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 13: States of America. 750 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 3: Joining men as comedian and host of Primetime with Alex 751 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 3: Dahn on Blastava, Alex it MAXs you want to sign up. 752 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: That is some inspiring stuff. 753 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 8: No doubt about it. 754 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 20: And now that young soldiers don't have to worry about 755 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 20: being basically under the thumb of a person with gender 756 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 20: dysphoria that's mentally ill. I think they have a lot 757 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 20: more confidence in joining the Armed Services. So I'm happy 758 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 20: that people like Rachel Levine are now banned from joining 759 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 20: the United States Armed Services. So Pete Haig Seth and 760 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 20: Donald Trump have given the American people, and especially the 761 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 20: young American. 762 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 8: People, faith into our arm services. It's beautiful. 763 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 20: I love to see it, and I can't wait for 764 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 20: more young people to sign up and actually support our 765 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 20: country in a positive way and not some sort of 766 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 20: weird LGBTQ gender mafia way. 767 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 3: Well, talking about l g b t Q I a community. 768 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 3: You've really been embraced by that community. 769 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 2: It is Pride Month. 770 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 3: Let's just have a look at how you've been embraced. 771 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 20: Protect How are you going to protect a kid I cutting. 772 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 9: Off in genital No? 773 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: No, look at this. 774 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 8: Do you think I should kill me? 775 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 18: I hope you live forever. 776 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you want me to kill myself. 777 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 3: Alex, that don't seem to like you. 778 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 20: No, Rita, but I mean there aren't a lot of 779 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 20: pharmaceutical drugs, and luckily for me, the estrogen hormone keeps 780 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 20: them pretty docile and pretty weak, so they're not too tough. 781 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 8: So thank goodness, I didn't look to do. 782 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 9: That. 783 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: Didn't look so docile where they were pouring water. I 784 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 3: hope it was water on you and coming after you. 785 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 3: Must be frightening. I know you joke about it, but 786 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: we've got a bunch of people. 787 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: All worked up coming at you. 788 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 3: You must fear for your safety occasionally. But I want 789 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: to ask you about CNN. They had some disturbing news 790 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 3: to impart to their views. 791 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 18: Plus eight point advantage for the Republican Party. 792 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 9: How is that possible? 793 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 8: Democrats? 794 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 18: How is that possible? After all the recession, because after 795 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 18: the stock market's been doing all of this, after all 796 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 18: the terrorists that Americans are against, and Republicans still hold 797 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 18: an eight point lead on the economy. 798 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 16: Are you kidding me? 799 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 17: This is a CNN This is new CNN pulingd How 800 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 17: was that? 801 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 11: When we look for trends, how is that trending with 802 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 11: other data that you're pulling in. 803 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 18: Yeah, if it was just this one CNN pul that 804 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 18: would be one thing. But take a look at Reuter's ipsos. 805 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 18: What do we see here? Party with a better economic plan? Well, 806 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 18: it may have twenty twenty four, just before Donald Trump 807 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 18: was reelected president, Republicans had a nine point advantage. Look 808 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 18: at where we are now. In May of twenty twenty five, 809 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 18: the advantage actually went up by three points. Now Republicans 810 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 18: have a twelve point advantage when it comes to the 811 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 18: party with a better economic plan Alex. 812 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 3: They just can't understand why their own polling is showing 813 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: Trump winning on the economy. 814 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 20: Yeah, it's really not a hard equation to figure out. 815 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 20: And if you really just look at our economy now, 816 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 20: the fact that people actually have some faith that they 817 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 20: can actually go work and that industries are coming back 818 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 20: here in America, its just created so much of a 819 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 20: better lifestyle for the American people. And you know, when 820 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 20: it comes to the polling though, of course, these Democrats 821 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 20: are now changing. I mean, nobody predicted Donald Trump to 822 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 20: win in a landslide. So it just tells you that 823 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 20: even though the mainstream media is going to tell you 824 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 20: that the liberals are in charge, that everybody loves, you know, 825 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 20: Kamala Harris and progressiveness, that's not the case. There's been 826 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,240 Speaker 20: a major shift and it's really in the conservative shavor 827 00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 20: right now. 828 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: Well, those figures on who's best for the economy are 829 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 3: just overwhelmingly leaning Donald Trump's way, and he's had some 830 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 3: good data recently. Inflation is down, real wages are up, 831 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: and the tariffs haven't been the disaster that we were 832 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 3: told they were going to be. Just tell me how 833 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 3: that's seen in the US right now, particularly the tariff policy, 834 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 3: because obviously around the world we're very concerned about the tariffs. 835 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 20: Well, of course, Rita and I try to talk to 836 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 20: people that are in industries here in America, and the 837 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 20: car business isn't hurting that bad. But you know where 838 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 20: I've heard is hurting so far is Las Vegas. 839 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 8: They've lost a little bit of their international travelers, and 840 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 8: so they said, I swear Rita, that's what they said. 841 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 20: They said, Las Vegas is down a little bit right now, 842 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 20: but other than that, the economy is pretty good, and 843 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 20: if Las Vegas is down, it's probably better for society 844 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 20: if you ask me. 845 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: Well, we've got some more good news with a big 846 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 3: drop in fentanyl crossing the border. 847 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 2: Washington Post calls. 848 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 3: It mysterious, this drop, but I don't think, alex it 849 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: is all that mysterious, and it's certainly going to save many, 850 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 3: many lives. 851 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 20: Reader doesn't it make you sick how they can just 852 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 20: pretend to be so naive. I mean, just the fact 853 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 20: that Donald Trump was able to shut down the border 854 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 20: in one day and make our country infinitely more safe 855 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 20: when it comes to all of the drugs in fentanyl, 856 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 20: and not only fentanyl, cocaine, meth amphetamines, all kinds of 857 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 20: drugs that are being you know, just taken into our 858 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 20: country by coyotes. So this is not a hard problem 859 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 20: to solve, and Donald Trump basically solved it, and for 860 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 20: them to try to placate it like it's some sort 861 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 20: of mystery, it just shows you how dumb the mainstream 862 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 20: media really is. And no offense the people the Sky 863 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 20: News are great, they are not so much. 864 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 9: Now. 865 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 3: We call it the leftist mainstream media. It's Donald trumpet 866 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 3: any credit at all. We know they hate him, and 867 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 3: it's just relentless negative coverage of all things Trump. But 868 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 3: for things like the border and you know, the fentanel 869 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 3: numbers dropping the economy, is there any credit going the 870 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 3: Trump administration's way yet? 871 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 20: Seriously, the only complaint that I have seen in Trump's 872 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 20: administration right now, because you know, I go to these 873 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 20: college campuses and I debate is the deportation of Abrego Garcia, 874 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 20: and honestly, a Brego Garcia, the Trump administration. You know, 875 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 20: they admit that they didn't give him fully due process, 876 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 20: but he came here illegally, so he got kicked out illegally. 877 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 20: And that's one person that's not the overwhelming majority of 878 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 20: you know, the situations when it comes to deporting people. 879 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 20: So other than that, I mean, when it comes to 880 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 20: the economy, when it comes to January sixth, when it 881 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 20: just comes to the overall you know, feelings that people have, 882 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 20: when it comes to our safety and especially our geopolitical relationships. 883 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 20: You know, people who have never been more satisfied than 884 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 20: in the past four years than we are today, especially 885 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 20: under you know, Joe Biden, sleepy, Joe alex Stein. 886 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 3: Thank you for your time, and that's all the time 887 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 3: we have. I'll see you tomorrow at eleven. Newsnight is 888 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 3: up next