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Speaker 1: Speaking of Josh Carr, a guest on AFL three sixty

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Can I look forward again on those shows after I

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Speaker 2: lost Ken?

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Speaker 3: No, you always wanted to know what the drawer was

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Speaker 3: like before you went. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 4: Josh Carr proves his timing to be perfect. The day

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Speaker 4: after his first winning the job. The Port Adelaide coach joins.

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Speaker 2: Us it isn't and hit rock bottom in a dismal

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Speaker 2: Sunday showing one are the ramifications of the performance and

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Speaker 2: Brad Scott's branding of the.

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Speaker 5: Team has demoralized, and the.

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Speaker 6: AFL moves to stamp out taunting.

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Speaker 4: The umpire has given an edict to pay free kicks

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Speaker 4: to end a bad look for the game.

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Speaker 5: Both see the flawsday.

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Speaker 6: Can you help me on on three sixty? Are you

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Speaker 6: aware of that conversation?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't live under a rock.

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Speaker 5: The reality is now, the gloves are off bos fair.

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Speaker 6: And luck war night job is pretty clear.

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Speaker 5: Make Hawthorne when it would be very good at Hide

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Speaker 5: and Seek? Me sure?

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Speaker 6: I think okay? Pilot followed Marco, I can't have that.

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Speaker 5: I what do you want us?

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Speaker 6: Play worse? When you caught my eye hand Mustang as

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Speaker 6: that's the greatest prize that.

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Speaker 5: First look at it.

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Speaker 6: She said, there's a dent in that cap.

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Speaker 5: Sure enough.

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Speaker 6: There is.

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Speaker 4: A few thrillers, a few decent gaps, and plenty to

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Speaker 4: work with from that round of footing.

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Speaker 2: A bit of drama too on the weekend, Jared, So

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Speaker 2: stand by, I think got a big seven days of

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Speaker 2: footing come up.

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Speaker 6: No more head rubbing, I'll tell you about that.

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Speaker 5: You're not going to rub your head for sure.

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Speaker 2: On everybody.

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Speaker 4: Everyone, draw a little bit of inspiration from Scott van

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Speaker 4: Peltier and give it.

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Speaker 6: What was the best thing you saw all weekend?

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Speaker 2: I just think what happened down in TASMANI you're in

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Speaker 2: the VFL side. I'm stepping outside the AFL bubble here

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Speaker 2: the pictures that came back and the sense of excitement

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Speaker 2: and anticipation for their VFL debut. Jared, just have a

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Speaker 2: look at these these scenes down here at North Hobard

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Speaker 2: over that that is just magnificent. That is a state

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Speaker 2: and he's screaming out for inclusion and they're excited about

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Speaker 2: a VFL side. The fact that the stadium is not

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Speaker 2: going to be ready for their AFL side, I think

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Speaker 2: it's going to work for them because they will unite

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Speaker 2: both ends of the state. And these pictures, no under

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Speaker 2: Benny's looking like he's the cat that swallowed the cream.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that was magnifument ten, six hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty four. They're going to be big, Dazzy, They're going

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Speaker 2: to be huge.

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Speaker 6: That is a force milling, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: I love it?

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Speaker 6: And they got a win too to celebrate it tonight.

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Speaker 4: Our coaches Adam Kingsley and Josh Carr have a great

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Speaker 4: shared heritage, so they're together with us tonight and Tom

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Speaker 4: Hawkins is on the couch again tomorrow night. The unvaluing

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Speaker 4: of Nick Dacos is part of our three sixty family.

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Speaker 5: He was down Dazzy on.

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Speaker 6: What an interesting coincidence that was.

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Speaker 4: Monday Nights starts with the awarding of the GVPS in

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Speaker 4: the estimation of just one man the most valuable players

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Speaker 4: from the previous round. And if you think they're all

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Speaker 4: talking about the meat tray like the Riolies, this is

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Speaker 4: the most sought after prize in fut of the Ranger

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Speaker 4: Super Duty XLT, valued at one hundred and eight thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: You have five votes to award here gaz from round two.

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Speaker 2: That's it, let's go to the one earlier. I thought

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Speaker 2: Jack Butters was a little quiet in his opening game.

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Speaker 2: I knew he was going to bounce back in a

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Speaker 2: massive way. He was unbelievable against the lackluster Bombs had

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Speaker 2: thirty six touches, six tackles.

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Speaker 5: When he tackles like a shark, Zero's in on you

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Speaker 5: and all.

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Speaker 2: Sorts of things happened. I thought he was unbelievable. He's

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Speaker 2: got a big job now. Connor Rosey's out love Tom

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Speaker 2: Brass going back to Thursday night, so Charlie Kern, I

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Speaker 2: look like he's going to light the whole joint up.

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Speaker 2: And then they said, nah, we'll just put Tommy Brass

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Speaker 2: on him and embarrass on him other and he was superb.

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Speaker 2: His inner set work was great.

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Speaker 5: It's good and Buds kicked the goal yet eighty a

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Speaker 5: set mark's.

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Speaker 2: Halfway through the third quarter on SAANDARSI the defenders have

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Speaker 2: hit back and we won't get to that. A little

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Speaker 2: bit later he was terrific, and so was Nick Murray.

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Speaker 2: He's running mate, so votes there. Then I go back

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Speaker 2: to where I really love you, and I've loved this

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Speaker 2: man for two or three years year and now I'd

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Speaker 2: see they're coming with me, which is great.

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Speaker 5: He was enormous.

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Speaker 2: He led the rape, the presence kick four goals, could

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Speaker 2: have had five or six and just a leader. So

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Speaker 2: I love what Josh Chasey's doing. And this guy had

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Speaker 2: one of those games, and he's good enough to have

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Speaker 2: these games where the ball just followed him and we

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Speaker 2: were there watching it. Could have had three in the

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Speaker 2: first fifteen minutes of the game, end up with three goals.

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Speaker 2: They call him baby BoNT He was doing his best

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Speaker 2: impersonation on Friday night. So Josh Frazer was absolutely sensational.

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Speaker 5: And only I think we've spoke the n if.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty years of age, twenty a future, he's got no,

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Speaker 2: he's a jet.

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Speaker 5: So they are the offerings that some unlucky out there.

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Speaker 4: By the way, fifteen individual vote getters through three weeks

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Speaker 4: of forty Petraca bonds and Little Bonce sharing the top

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Speaker 4: of the leaderboard and Nick Dakos, Gorne and Tracy so

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Speaker 4: it is stacked at the top. The agenda begins while

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Speaker 4: it's dominated by the Bombers, who plummeted to rock bottom

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Speaker 4: yesterday in a dismal showing in Adelaide's The reviewers are scathing,

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Speaker 4: but none more so than the pointed criticism of the

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Speaker 4: coach himself.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is looking ugly for Brad Scott at the moment.

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Speaker 5: I think they've got huge concerns, huge concerns.

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Speaker 2: That's a hard watch because it's not AFL level, it's

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Speaker 2: not AFL standard.

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Speaker 5: Our inability to hold onto the ball just under pressure was.

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Speaker 1: Terrible. Are the times we did win the ball was

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Speaker 1: coughed it straight back up again. So credit to the opposition.

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Speaker 1: They pressured us better than we pressured them. Mind you

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Speaker 1: how pressure was non existent, butchered the ball when we

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Speaker 1: had it. We're not hard nosed enough in defense, full stop.

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Speaker 1: That's just not defenders. That's all over the ground.

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Speaker 3: They're absolutely destroying s is and drawing ss and throwing.

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Speaker 2: It's a contrast though the port you can say, okay,

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Speaker 2: last week was a mulligan, but for Essendent you can say, well,

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Speaker 2: last week's turning into a trend.

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Speaker 3: They had a lot of injuries last year, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think that was the real issues. I think that

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Speaker 3: some of their defeasive stuff has always been their issue,

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Speaker 3: and they've still got a long, long way to go

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Speaker 3: in this rebuild.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt we're demoralized, and that can that can

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Speaker 1: appear to look like like an effort, lack of fight.

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Speaker 1: But Nakadi is a terrific young man and he's a

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Speaker 1: great footballer. But when you miss a goal from three

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Speaker 1: matters out directly front, like your teams are moralized.

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Speaker 6: That's just mental pressure, really, Isn't it just fluff that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: We can't have selfishness players who think about themselves, and

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Speaker 1: we've done a lot of work to make sure we

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Speaker 1: don't have that. But when things are really hard and

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Speaker 1: you get demoralized, human nature is to think about yourself

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Speaker 1: and what what does this make for me? No passion,

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Speaker 1: no intent, and then the confidence and the beliefs they

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Speaker 1: just don't have any The reality is you've only got

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Speaker 1: two options you can give up.

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Speaker 4: That's as raw as it gets in a postgame press

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Speaker 4: conference from a coach and gas, the word demoralized is

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Speaker 4: a big word.

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Speaker 6: After two games of footy, she jumped off the page, didn't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't watching the press conference, so when I read it,

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Speaker 2: I've got a shock. I was really not many things

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Speaker 2: shock you these days in footy. But I just I

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Speaker 2: sort of ruminated on the word the demoralized. And that's

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Speaker 2: from a coach that's so damning that that's the critical

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Speaker 2: juncture for this foota club, Let's make no bones about it.

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Speaker 2: So the problem I had with the coach saying that

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Speaker 2: they're demoralized, there might be half a dozen or ten

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Speaker 2: of them. I don't think they're demoralized, Jared. But in

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Speaker 2: the end it's self fulfilling. The coach says we're demoralized,

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Speaker 2: and they go are we ah, oh, we must be,

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Speaker 2: So then they become demoralized. If there was a couple

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Speaker 2: of youngsters who were still running around just enjoying the moment,

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Speaker 2: now they're are thinking, no, no.

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Speaker 5: I've got to be tomoralized because the coach says we are.

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Speaker 5: I didn't like it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like the singling out of Caddy, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't Maybe just got to a stage where he's

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Speaker 2: got no other choice. Maybe that's how he feels, and

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Speaker 2: then he has to say, Okay, I've tried to look

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Speaker 2: after you for the most of the last year. And

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Speaker 2: we looked for a response from what was a really

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Speaker 2: poor performance against Hawthorn and backed it up with the

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Speaker 2: worst performance against a team that are nowhere near Hawthorn's level.

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Speaker 2: So now they're in there. How did you read it?

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Speaker 2: You've been around a long time. When you read that

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Speaker 2: on the back of a paper, what were your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that's the language that we would extrapolate

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Speaker 4: on a Monday, and it's not.

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Speaker 6: It escalates things.

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Speaker 4: So I do think you come into a season, you

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Speaker 4: want there to be a level of hope and optimism

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Speaker 4: and Essendon clearly aren't living that. They've come in at

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Speaker 4: a low ebb and they have regressed immediately. I think

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Speaker 4: if I was the CEO of the president today, I

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Speaker 4: would have wanted to just sit down and go, do

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Speaker 4: you still believe in what we're doing? And then it

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Speaker 4: spins out into the broader question what are they doing?

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Speaker 4: So the plan that was first put in place, where

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Speaker 4: are they navigating that? It doesn't feel like the same

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Speaker 4: plan anymore. So my fear coming into the year was

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Speaker 4: this was going to be the hardest of the rebuild

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Speaker 4: is because of the list they've got, which is really peculiar,

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Speaker 4: and the mix of players they had in that team.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday's odd it's sort of offcuts from other teams. It's

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Speaker 4: high draft picks who haven't panned out for themselves. There

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Speaker 4: are rookies and players who are not quite sure whether

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Speaker 4: they're good enough to have league careers. And then they're

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Speaker 4: the new breed who aren't the high picks guaranteed to

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Speaker 4: be successful, but sort of the ones that they've pinned

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Speaker 4: their hopes on because those are the only picks that

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Speaker 4: they've had, and then they go out and play in

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Speaker 4: a manner like that.

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Speaker 6: So Brad also said it's his responsibility.

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Speaker 4: So I think that sits heavily on him right now.

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Speaker 4: What does he believe what is the right way to

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Speaker 4: lead in what is now a heightened environment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a bit of separation there too, though.

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Speaker 2: I think you know, they look they look to moralized.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure where they said, well are they? But

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Speaker 2: and then it was so brutally probably honest in the end,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You're looking at it and you're going, Okay,

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Speaker 2: is that what they needed in the second game season?

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Speaker 5: And that speaks to maybe just the state where he

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Speaker 2: There were ten players ten players that had a total

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Speaker 2: and played four quarters of footy without vanard to put

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Speaker 2: they're poor and have been for a long long time.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it last week. You talked about the

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Speaker 2: and we're talking about put Adelaide Node great disrespect, but

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Speaker 5: So I don't know. This isn't a critical critical junction.

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Speaker 6: So this is a funny footy.

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Speaker 5: Club right now. When I grew up, they were great.

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Speaker 2: They were the greatest them An Hawthorne and Essendon were

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Speaker 5: They're a funny club right now.

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Speaker 2: All you hear is, you know, do they want sections

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Speaker 2: there's a sheety I know but that keeps coming up

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Speaker 4: The demoralized team, dysfunctional club. I reckon all that they

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Speaker 4: set out to rectify four years ago with this change.

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Speaker 4: I think right now that looks like it's probably failing

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Speaker 6: And then it's one of those really rare moments.

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Speaker 4: How did they get here? There's a little bit of

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Speaker 4: everything that's true here. There's mistakes in recruiting that you

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Speaker 6: You can go back and pick.

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Speaker 4: They didn't let Dana Her go, they didn't let Merit go,

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Speaker 6: They missed on a whole cluster of picks that they set.

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Speaker 4: Themselves up for. So they've had to take another cluster

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Speaker 4: of picks. But they haven't been at the bottom in

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Speaker 6: Is Essendon don't have that?

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Speaker 4: And then if you boiled it right down to they

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Speaker 4: best player said to them, hey, I don't believe in

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Speaker 4: this anymore. That's what Zach Merritt said when he asked

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Speaker 4: to be traded. He wants to win and he doesn't

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Speaker 4: believe the winning's going to happen at Essendon, So that

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Speaker 4: filters through. Did we think that was just going to

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Speaker 4: the general said, hey, this plan is going to fail,

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Speaker 6: Impending doom here. I don't know how you get out

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Speaker 5: Not good viewing fro him. I've wrote that down as well.

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Speaker 2: With all his experience, act, with everything that he knows,

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Speaker 2: he wanted out right and it's toughest decision he's told

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Speaker 5: So the players are exactly that. What's he know?

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Speaker 2: He knows something? And then two games in you've got

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Speaker 2: a demoralized group. The best player and captain there is

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Speaker 5: Two weeks in, we're tomorrow. This is a demoralized group.

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Speaker 2: So that that is that's why Yeston fans are doing

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Speaker 2: time that they have And I don't know the answer, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: because we could do all the platitudes. We're all care

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Speaker 2: no responsibility here we can. Last week we said, oh, gee,

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Speaker 2: said let's judge them, not the judge them on Hawthorne

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Speaker 2: because that's always going to be the gap.

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Speaker 5: You know, we know there's a gap there. Let's judge

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Speaker 5: them against Port because that's they got there.

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Speaker 6: Was worse, ye worse. The first quarter will probably be

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Speaker 6: the worst quarter of a team plays this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So again on the back of that, now ten tackles,

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Speaker 2: three play, all that stuff just speaks to a team.

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Speaker 5: That haven't given up.

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Speaker 2: They haven't given up, but it looked like letting stages

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Speaker 2: of that game that they.

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Speaker 4: Had Brad Scott's first two years or eleven win seasons

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Speaker 4: and they know that that's not going to get it done.

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Speaker 6: But they're eleven.

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Speaker 4: So they're dead mid table ordinary, they're just in the middle.

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Speaker 4: And then they go six and four before all the

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Speaker 4: injuries hit and the rest is will wipeout. And now

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Speaker 4: you sit there and go where does the next win

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Speaker 4: come from? So how are they going to play? This

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Speaker 4: can't be how they're trying to play. Just no defensive integrity,

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Speaker 4: the complete inability to defend ball movement against them and Kneemik.

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Speaker 4: When they go to move the ball themselves, they turn

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Speaker 4: it over horribly and they can't defend when it goes

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Speaker 6: That's the whole that's the whole list and dared.

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Speaker 2: They won't lay a hand on the opposition, They won't

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Speaker 5: So what happens for them, Well, what happens is they

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Speaker 5: play North Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Next week, this week Saturday night, and that they've got

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Speaker 5: You don't want to be the loser of the game.

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Speaker 5: And we can.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to build this and continue to build it

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Speaker 2: because there's nowhere to hide next Saturday night, nowhere you

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Speaker 2: other if you're Essident or you're North Melbourne. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not forgiving them. From what I've just seen, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what else we can say about him. Everything that

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Speaker 2: there's been written and said about him, is right, and

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Speaker 2: the coach has put it in his own words. So

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Speaker 2: what happens, Well, let's see what happens, and then what

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Speaker 6: Wow, it's a reckoning.

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Speaker 5: It's a reckoning. It is a reckoning.

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Speaker 2: And and if you're an essenon player and you know

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Speaker 2: they sometimes you know, the team Sykes and the psychologists

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Speaker 2: and all that, say they play the game on Monday,

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Speaker 2: they play it bull dust to play it, play it today,

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Speaker 2: play it tomorrow, Keep hammering and hammering because there's nowhere

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Speaker 5: If you don't turn up next Saturday against North Melbourne

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Speaker 2: If you've burned gently gently with them and Molly Coling

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Speaker 2: and don't hurt their feelings, will throw that out the

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Speaker 2: now they've got North Melbourne on Saturday, not nowhere to hide.

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Speaker 4: Jared back once the coach shakes the place to the core,

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Speaker 4: and that's why it's happened.

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Speaker 6: Is it capable of engendering a response?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it becomes personal, you know, what

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Speaker 2: sort of a person are you, Andy McGrath and Zach

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Speaker 2: because I'm going to find out about you on Saturday

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Speaker 2: because we have been so appalling and there's no excuse,

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Speaker 2: and then then we'll.

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Speaker 4: Work it out North Melbourne or the other side of

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Speaker 4: that equation. So they couldn't back up the breakthrough win

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Speaker 4: with another. I half feel like in six weeks time

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Speaker 4: when we look back in West Coast in Perth, it

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Speaker 4: might be a slightly different proposition. But they got belted

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Speaker 4: where they've really honed themselves. So what level of judgment

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Speaker 5: To that plenty five goals up against the West Coast Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Winds are hard to come by for the North Melbourne

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Speaker 2: footy club and you don't flirt with that five goals

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Speaker 2: up and they weren't able to put it away. So

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Speaker 2: they're not as in the doghouse like Essendon. But they've

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Speaker 2: Maybe right and hopefully for West Coast sake and good

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Speaker 5: It's great to.

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Speaker 2: See, but no, they've got enough talent running through that

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Speaker 2: side not to give up a thirty point lead.

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Speaker 5: If they cherish your win as much as they possibly do.

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Speaker 4: Still, their incapacity to halt momentum when it turned.

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Speaker 5: All of that, all of that, and and that puts

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Speaker 5: pressure on Alis the Clarkson as well. I mean they've

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Speaker 5: also declared as a football club. Enough's enough and enough.

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Speaker 2: If enough was enough, they would have won that game

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Speaker 5: So bring on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't hide, don't shy away from it. Don't give

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Speaker 2: us it's another game, because it's not.

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Speaker 6: It's not your units.

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Speaker 5: If I was not going yes, like.

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Speaker 6: Who do you trust? Trust either of I trust.

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Speaker 2: North Melbourne more than I trust Essen and sitting here

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Speaker 2: right now only because you know in two games this

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Speaker 2: dident have given him no reason to trust them. So

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Speaker 2: that's where it sits. But apart from that, analysis will

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Speaker 2: go out the window. We can now looked at it

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Speaker 2: last week about all the defensive stuff, and I know

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Speaker 2: everyone else has done it, so we know what Issce

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Speaker 2: problems are. We know where the Kangaroos are and what

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Speaker 2: then let's settle in on Saturday night and find out

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Speaker 2: what sort of character these folks have got, how proud

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Speaker 2: they are as footy players and men, because it's there

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Speaker 2: and that's where we're going to judge on it.

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Speaker 6: The upside of the weekend.

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Speaker 4: It's five years since West Coast were watchable and we're

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Speaker 4: watching it yesterday and it had everything. It had a

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Speaker 4: raucous environment, full house salutes the West Coast fans.

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Speaker 6: It had an attractive.

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Speaker 4: Style of footy. It was pulsating, It had melodrama everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Harley Read's the best player on the ground. He's got

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Speaker 4: a new running mate in Williem durzmar Cooper duff Tyler.

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Speaker 4: If you hadn't caught his name just yet, they do now.

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Speaker 4: Jacob Shanahan, who's a picked thirty from the previous draft,

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Speaker 4: ends up being the rising star.

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Speaker 6: Murdoch's a beauty.

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Speaker 4: Murdocks arrived on the scene like Bisted a couple of

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Speaker 6: And then you also had Yo.

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Speaker 4: And Crips, who are sort of the trample down veterans

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Speaker 6: West Coast was watchable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they were.

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Speaker 2: They played like they cared Jared, which is in stark

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Speaker 2: contrast to what we've been talking about with this. And

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Speaker 2: you can see it on Waterman's face, you know, going

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Speaker 2: prepared to take pain. And yeah, the excitement is in

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Speaker 2: that Cooper duff Titler who moved like he was one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five not two hundred centimeters and Dursman

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Speaker 2: has just got the X factor.

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Speaker 5: Harley was there.

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Speaker 2: I think Alie go back in the side makes anyway,

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Speaker 2: let's let's enjoy this victory. They found a way to

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Speaker 2: win and it was terrific and hopefully they can build

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Speaker 2: on it. Tom McCarthy's a look, this is this was

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Speaker 2: the nine that were in the circle. Bo Allen had

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Speaker 2: really good moments. Run you through the middle of the

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Speaker 2: ground with the footy. Archer Reed has got presence and

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Speaker 2: had had a bit of swagger about him when he

447
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Speaker 2: kicked the goal and turned to the crowd.

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Speaker 5: And had a little bit of a head wobble.

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Speaker 2: So they'd be feeling pretty good about himselves this morning,

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Speaker 2: which is a good thing.

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Speaker 4: And those two number one draft picks standing together with

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Speaker 4: CAF at the end of the right is for all

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Speaker 4: the dole drums that they have been through, these are

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Speaker 4: the pair who will rise together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we judge players, so the young players, you know,

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Speaker 2: we make these assessments on them and you go as

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Speaker 2: a number one draft picked the team who's struggling, as.

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Speaker 5: Harley did.

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Speaker 2: It's a damnathearder than going to Geelong and playing in

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Speaker 2: amongst that group. We're going to Brisbane and playing in

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Speaker 2: amongst that group. So it's good to see Harley come

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Speaker 2: away with ten coaches votes and a win.

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Speaker 5: Good result, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, taunting, So another episode from the West. The dud

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Speaker 4: actions of Patrick Voss first drew the hour of the

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Speaker 4: MRO with a fine issues and it's been taken further

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Speaker 4: at headquarters today. Greg swan who is going to be

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Speaker 4: a man of decisive action in the review of the

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Speaker 4: round today, in conjunction with the umpire's coach Michael Jennings,

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Speaker 4: has instructed umpires that as of this weekend, the head

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Speaker 4: rub will be deemed a free kick for high contacts.

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Speaker 4: I spoke to swan Lake today. Bad look inflammatory incites

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Speaker 4: Malay's awful example to junior footy.

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Speaker 6: Stop it. Patrick Voss is the poster boy for it.

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Speaker 6: There are two other examples across the season so far.

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Speaker 4: Warner rubbing the head of Weitering, which sparked the Malee

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Speaker 4: and Sydney and opening round. And warrel on Friday Night

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Speaker 4: which ends up being one hundred meter penalty against Sam Darcy.

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Speaker 4: No more you rub Darcy's head, we're reversing the free kick.

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Speaker 2: So this is the one you're talking about that ended

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Speaker 2: up in a little scuffle. So Warner goes in. So

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Speaker 2: that would be a free kick back at the center

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Speaker 2: square to the Carlton Footy Club. And this wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: a dual fifty meter penalty. This would be free kick

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Speaker 2: Sam Darsy. That's that's good, fair enough, Patrick Voss. Lucky

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Speaker 2: he wasn't playing fifteen years ago. You would have got

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Speaker 2: punch fear in the head and probably copped it. And

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Speaker 2: probably copped it, Jude, because there's a respect ladder that

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Speaker 2: you talk about. Climb and a respect ladder takes a

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Speaker 2: thousand little actions. You've got to do that, and you

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Speaker 2: get a little bit more and a little bit bit more.

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Speaker 2: And if you speak to people at this and then

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Speaker 2: they weren't surprised that Patrick Voss left because I don't

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Speaker 2: think I don't think you was spring up the respect ladder.

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Speaker 2: But he did over in for hour because he started

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Speaker 2: to work hard it and he just fell back down

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Speaker 2: the bottom. It takes one hundred little steps to get

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Speaker 2: halfway and you can drop to the bottom in one.

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Speaker 5: Act of just a dickhead.

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Speaker 6: And that's what he was.

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Speaker 2: And when you know the story behind Harrison Petty and

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Speaker 2: his mother and all that sort of stuff, well, I

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Speaker 2: hope you're.

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Speaker 5: Feeling bad today.

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Speaker 2: It's just throughout the footy everyone's looked at him and

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Speaker 2: saw the act for what it was.

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Speaker 5: Not brave.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you get away with it these days.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't get away the fifteen years ago. So I'm

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Speaker 2: glad it's going to be stamped out.

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Speaker 4: So it's puerile and that act of just humiliating an

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Speaker 4: opponent in such a way as going to be stamped

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Speaker 4: out by the league as of this weekend. So then

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Speaker 4: there's the hamstring injury, so a spate of them across

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Speaker 4: the weekend. Is this coincidence? Is this the first warning

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Speaker 4: sign of the ballistic nature of the modern game? Is

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Speaker 4: too much for our athletes bodies.

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Speaker 5: I think that I think we've jumped too far head

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Speaker 5: of the curve here.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be I was watching pat Christian Petrarca and

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Speaker 2: when he did that hamstring, and Christian Petrarca is the

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Speaker 2: best prepared athlete probably in footy right now.

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Speaker 5: That had nothing to do with the speed of the game.

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Speaker 2: That had due to the fact that had he kicked

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Speaker 2: at a step earlier, he'd still be out there. Tommy

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Speaker 2: Lynch's thirty three, Toby nan Cavs is thirty one, tom

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Speaker 2: Libertore's thirty three, so they're in the window and that

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Speaker 2: can happen. And then the Connor Roz one was just horrible,

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Speaker 2: like it was just a hyper extension. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what happened Anthony Kevinadi. I didn't see that. But the

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Speaker 2: Connor Rose won and Archiez that's the third Hamstring has

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Speaker 2: done since the State game, so he was in a

533
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Speaker 2: vulnerable position anyway. So no, I'm not putting it down

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Speaker 2: the speed of the game. That's that's horrible for Connor.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out exactly how bad that is when Josh

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Speaker 2: joins us.

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Speaker 6: But not what about you? Are you worried about it

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Speaker 6: or not on alert. But no, no, because there's a

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Speaker 6: lot You've done a great job there.

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Speaker 4: You can isolate each of them separate to the ballistic

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Speaker 4: nature of the game.

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Speaker 2: So Petrarca and Rosey, you're both phenomenal preparers and athletes.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that's just that's not getting need in the back,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's just bad luck.

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 4: Last week you lorded our forwards. Yes, a square up

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Speaker 4: with the defenders responded.

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Speaker 2: It does sound a bit like that, but I'm making

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Speaker 2: the case for the defense. So I wanted to see

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Speaker 2: with the reaction because you had they had to respond

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Speaker 2: to these defenders. They had to change because of the

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Speaker 2: way the game was played, and did they still have

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Speaker 2: the capacity to be up inside someone's jumper? So Barras

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Speaker 2: was outstanding. I mean, you just went one on one

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Speaker 2: with the red hot Charlie in the first quarter and

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Speaker 2: Charlie didn't touch it afterwards, so he hasn't lost the

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Speaker 2: capacity to play one on one and defend and inter

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Speaker 2: sept mark.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, look at that that.

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Speaker 5: I was just really buoyed by it all. And then

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Speaker 5: we went over to Adelaide and.

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Speaker 2: You're watching a game thinking it's going to be Darcy

563
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Speaker 2: and Norton ripping at the shreds and butts take seven

564
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Speaker 2: in a set marks played on San Darcy and Murray

565
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Speaker 2: did a good job and they book a karmas at

566
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Speaker 2: the other end of the ground and his mates, you know,

567
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Speaker 2: o'donald was fantastic with him as well. I just thought that, say,

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Speaker 2: all of this is good old fashioned one on one defending. Jared,

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Speaker 2: just take responsibility. Take Pilthorpe when he comes your way.

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Speaker 2: Take this he tech took rank and when he came

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Speaker 2: his way, and then kal Wilkie's been doing it for

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Speaker 2: a while. So yep, the game got quicker, the game

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Speaker 2: gets faster, the forwards get better looks at it. Could

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Speaker 2: the defenders make the necessary adjustments well, on the evidence

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Speaker 2: of the weekend, we could, and they should be lauded

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 5: So it was a body good effort.

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Speaker 6: Who could earn their pay one on one with their forward.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think there were some other moves that

580
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Speaker 2: helped the ball perhaps slow up a fraction, but still

581
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Speaker 2: the one on one nature of that group there.

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Speaker 5: On the weekend was just highly highly commendable. As painful

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Speaker 5: as it is to.

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Speaker 4: Say, all right, that's our agenda out of round two.

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Speaker 4: Let's deal with our coaches, shall we. It was a

586
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Speaker 4: frustrating night in Sydney for Adam mckinsley. They just got

587
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Speaker 4: going with two legs, couldn't run down the Saints.

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Speaker 6: For Josh Carr, for all the work that's been done

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Speaker 6: over all the years to prepare for this moment, we've

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Speaker 6: got to say his first payerful victory as head coach.

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Speaker 5: Well, you notice that it was my mind