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Speaker 1: I get a tamt you project.

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Speaker 2: It's Tiffany and Cook, Patrick, James Bonello and me with

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Speaker 2: a beanie up at typ Central. That's how cold it

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Speaker 2: is in my little studio at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Is it warm where you are?

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Speaker 3: Patrick, Well, it was three degrees when I took Fritzy

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Speaker 3: out for a walk. But I had the forethought to

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Speaker 3: put the heater on in my studio, so it was

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Speaker 4: I've had to take all my clothes off.

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Speaker 3: I've taken my market, my hoodie. I'm just sitting in

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Speaker 3: a black T shirt.

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Speaker 2: I dared to take your black T shirt off.

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Speaker 3: Take you black, teach, Just do the topless show only

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Speaker 3: if all three of us do.

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Speaker 2: Well, definitely not, because that would be inappropriate, because nobody

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Speaker 2: needs to see my tits.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking to you.

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Speaker 2: Ah, well, so many funny things I could say right now.

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Speaker 2: Say no to them.

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Speaker 4: I can say enormously they wasn't fit on the screen.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I actually think I might win the breast

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Speaker 2: competition at typ Central, But you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's we probably don't need that competition.

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Speaker 3: He's probably right if you see what he just looks like,

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Speaker 3: he's what it is when you start to put a

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Speaker 3: little bit of flab on and then you've got to

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Speaker 3: wear across your heart.

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Speaker 2: Me yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah, or yeah, or I've

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Speaker 2: got to gaffer take my cans up to my fucking clavicles.

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Speaker 1: Just so they stay somewhere near horizontal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You get to a point where everything just starts

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Speaker 2: falling down, right, even if you're in good shape, it's

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Speaker 2: just like sh it's just falling down. Everything's pointing towards

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Speaker 2: your feet. This is a tech podcast, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well I'm technically correct with this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, true. And gravity is a thing that does affect

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Speaker 3: every wobbly bit, that is true.

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Speaker 1: What are you drinking over there? A roll with a

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Speaker 1: punch of central.

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Speaker 5: I've got ginger tea cup of ginger tea this morning?

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Speaker 2: That is that meant to have some kind of medicinal

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Speaker 2: therapeutic calm your farm kind of vibe about it.

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Speaker 5: I'm just trying to calm my soul down a bit,

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Speaker 5: you know. I feel like I could do with some

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Speaker 5: of that at times.

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Speaker 2: You should have a xanax casserole in the fridge that

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Speaker 2: you can heat up at any time, just a little

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Speaker 2: cutless poonfuls.

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Speaker 5: It probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what xanax is, Patrick, He looks confused.

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Speaker 4: You look confused, No idea what xenx is.

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Speaker 2: It's an anti anxiotic drug, so it's a drug for anxiety.

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Speaker 2: I don't recommend it.

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Speaker 1: Everyone.

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Speaker 2: That was me being funny.

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Speaker 1: I would never.

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Speaker 2: Recommend a xenax castrole, more like a xanax sandwich. But

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Speaker 2: cast roles never. So are just fucking with you. Do

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Speaker 2: you take any medication regularly? Patrick, with your healthy, lean body?

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Speaker 3: No, just just some supplements, you know, got to keep

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Speaker 3: my eyron up in my BEE twelve, try to get

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Speaker 3: as much in just food. But I do take supplements

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Speaker 3: and vitamin D. I have a terrible vitamin D deficiency. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: never going in the sun and being as pale as well.

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Speaker 3: Actually I think I'm not as pale as you, but

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's good for B twelve? What's that cow?

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Speaker 4: I knew you're going to say that cow beef.

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Speaker 2: Just get some of that into you. I won't tell anyone,

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Speaker 2: We won't tell anyone. We'll keep it quiet. It'll be

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Speaker 2: our little type, just the listeners. Us goes no further Patrick,

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Speaker 2: had a hamburger.

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Speaker 4: No, well the thing okay.

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Speaker 1: Gorillas, Oh, I shouldn't have opened this door. No, don't know.

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Speaker 3: In the world, and they're veget they're vegan as well.

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Speaker 3: What is rhinoceros like the giant gorillas.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to fucking shock you, but you're not

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Speaker 2: a rhinoceros.

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Speaker 4: Bro King Kong climbed all that way up.

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Speaker 2: Never that's true. Well, that's true.

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Speaker 4: Do you eat people in the movie?

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Speaker 1: No, just climb.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the fucking Empire State building and swatted biplanes.

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Speaker 5: What brand of iron supplements did they take.

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Speaker 1: At the day?

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Speaker 4: I think it was the TV they what all?

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Speaker 3: They just?

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Speaker 5: Oh, they didn't need it because they plant. They were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, gorillas et seventy pounds of fruit to day.

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Speaker 2: So if you can do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm about one hundredth of the size of

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Speaker 3: the gorilla, despite my outward appearance.

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Speaker 2: And I'll come over to your joint and stand behind

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Speaker 2: you and pick knits off your back and out of

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Speaker 2: your hair.

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Speaker 3: Someone said to me once my arms were disproportionately longer

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Speaker 3: than the rest of my body, and I put it

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Speaker 3: down to my family just climbing down from the trees

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Speaker 2: Well, you're fifteen percent orangutan, just like tips thirty percent, dude.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've all got our heritage and our genetic.

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Speaker 3: Actually, given the color of her hair, she's probably got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll tell people what TIF looks like the morning,

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Speaker 2: because it's quite She keeps saying, Oh, I haven't changed anything.

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Speaker 4: She's studying. She's so hot? Is can I say that?

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Speaker 4: I've just said it.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're a gay dude, you can say that,

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Speaker 2: but if you're a straight dude, you can't. Because isn't

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Speaker 2: it funny that telling somebody that they're attractive is a

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Speaker 2: big no no.

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Speaker 1: Do not tell them that you're a pig?

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Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the context as well, on the

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Speaker 3: way you say it. Does it potentially not a good idea?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's not what we're talking about, you know, leaning

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Speaker 2: over a fucking some kind of fence on a building site,

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Speaker 2: fucking just with all your mates, just dribbling down the

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Speaker 2: front of your big m T shirt.

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Speaker 4: I hope that doesn't I hope it doesn't happen anymore.

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Tif, how are you?

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Speaker 2: If you read your red rang our curly hair.

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Speaker 5: It couldn't be better.

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Speaker 2: Well, you've got one gay bloke that wants to grope you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's winning.

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Speaker 5: They're my favorite that.

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Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't really favorite boyfriends.

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Speaker 5: They're the only one I like back.

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Speaker 3: I want to give her a heart.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what? You two would be the greatest

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Speaker 2: sex problems. And when you go to if I'm just

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Speaker 2: when you get back, I make a casse role and

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Speaker 2: when she does the same, When she does the same,

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Speaker 4: And I'll say, hit the lentence.

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Speaker 2: Jew's ready, that's right?

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Speaker 1: And do you want to watch Priscilla again?

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Speaker 2: Oh? God? Patrick doesn't think anybody's still listening.

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Speaker 3: Not a chance, not a chance. In fact, my dog's

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Speaker 3: not even listening. He's just looking away.

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Speaker 1: What did you say, Patrick's your backup plan?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't know yet, my backup plan. When I

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Speaker 5: get sick of the city, I'm going to move to

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Speaker 5: the land.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, Yeah, come movie with me?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: How come your voice just went up seven octaves.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about Tiff moving in with me, Like

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Speaker 3: she's great and she can teach me how to box.

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Speaker 3: That'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you can. I don't know what you

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Speaker 2: can teach you. Hey, Patrick, Welcome to the show. Patrick Beranello.

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Speaker 2: Hi comes every week? Well when I say comes, it

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Speaker 2: does the podcast every I don't know how often he comes,

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Speaker 2: but he's here on this show every two weeks. We're

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Speaker 4: Can I say that this is our third effort at

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Speaker 3: So I got canceled yesterday morning because I can't remember

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Speaker 3: the stuff going on, and then we reach it and

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Speaker 3: then I'll tell you what though. Can I give a

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Speaker 3: plug to something that I did straight after our conversation

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Speaker 3: last night, because I think it's a really important issue.

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Speaker 3: It's I went and saw a movie which was a fundraiser,

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Speaker 3: a charity fundraiser for a local film that's called Just

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Speaker 3: a Farmer And it's a story about the stress and

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Speaker 3: I won't go I don't want to talk too much

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Speaker 3: know that it's cliche if you don't see anything this year,

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Speaker 3: see this, but no, it is. It's an amazing event

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Speaker 3: had tissue boxes around the venue because it was so

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Speaker 2: That's great. While I'm going, I actually am aware of

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Speaker 2: that movie Patrick, because I saw I don't know what

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Speaker 3: She was great, so the director and she also starred

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Speaker 2: Right, well she was brilliant. Was that actually? Because you

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Speaker 1: So thanks for bringing that to our awareness.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about technology now, because that is your actual

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Speaker 2: job description. Oh yeah, and you haven't sent me an

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Speaker 2: invoice for a while, so you better.

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Speaker 3: Years.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can only backtrack four weeks. That's in the agreement.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about online safety, crime stoppers, what are they

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Speaker 4: This is crime stock.

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Speaker 3: There's so much concern at the moment for the fact

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Speaker 3: going on to Facebook and reporting crimes to their communities,

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Speaker 3: and crime stoppers are saying, don't think just because you've

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Speaker 3: way through to crime stoppers and the police. They're saying,

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Speaker 4: So this is happening a lot.

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Speaker 3: So what's happening is people are posting on social media

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Speaker 3: than good because it's unverified information, you know, and that

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Speaker 2: You know how people say, even when I'm my phone,

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Speaker 4: And that's why they give you Facebook for free.

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Speaker 3: That's why they give you Instagram for free and all

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Speaker 2: What's happening. What's the latest on the potential media ban

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Speaker 3: This is a really interesting one because it is coming

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Speaker 2: we know how destructive it is, how much sickness and

442
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: disease it causes, how many road accidents and deaths it causes,

443
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 2: But you know that's not most people. Most people are

444
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: not doing that, so we permit it.

445
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 3: And sorry, Craig, there's a concrete argument about giving kids alcohol.

446
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 3: All of my Italian friends, all of my Austrian friends,

447
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: they were allowed to have small So the Austrians would

448
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: have drunk a little bit of beer when they were thirteen, fourteen,

449
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 3: fifteen with a meal, and a lot of the Italian

450
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: friends would have a glass of wine or a little

451
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 3: bit of wine during a meal. And for a lot

452
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: of them, when they reach that magic age of eighteen

453
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: when everything's leap, it wasn't a big thing for them

454
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: because they've already had some and they weren't going to

455
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 3: and so really, in a lot of ways, it was

456
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 3: desensitizing them to the mystique around alcohol. You know, you

457
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: suddenly go to your first eighteenth and end up absolutely

458
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: paralytic because you've drunk to exist.

459
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 4: But if you've had experience with.

460
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: Drinking in a controlled environment that's condoned by your parents,

461
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 3: it actually becomes demystified, doesn't it.

462
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, And I mean, well we're getting

463
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: off track. We'll come back to that matter at hand.

464
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: But you think about in Victoria, where when you're seventeen

465
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: and eleven point nine months, you can't drink, you can't drive,

466
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: you can't vote, you can't do a myriad of things

467
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: and now we go, oh, on this day, now you

468
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: can do it all. Now.

469
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: Of course, you can't drink and drive.

470
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: Legally, but you can drink legally and you can drive legally.

471
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: So on the same day we're giving people their license

472
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: and also access to booze in a legal capacity.

473
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: Although yes and no, because if you're driving and you're

474
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: under a pea plate, you can't drink.

475
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. You can't drink and drive.

476
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: I said that, yeah, But what I mean is you

477
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: can legally drink. I'm not saying with driving, but you

478
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: can also drive, and you can also vote, and you

479
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: can you know, there's so many things that you're allowed

480
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: to do on one day. When I think, you know,

481
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Tazzy at sixteen, I think South Australia at sixteen and

482
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: New South Wales at seventeen, where you can drive, you know,

483
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, they're two to this or that.

484
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: I go, do you know how fucking great their eyesight

485
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: is and their judgment and their dexterity? And compare that

486
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: to my mum who drives, God bless her, She's eighty six.

487
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: Fucking hell, Get out of the way. If you see

488
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: Mary fucking Duck under a hedge.

489
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Speaker 3: You know, I truck a sixteen year old behind the

490
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Speaker 3: wheel of the.

491
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Speaker 4: Carb be for a lot of people.

492
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Speaker 1: Oh that's what I mean.

493
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean sixteen year olds, you know, unless they're being irresponsible.

494
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: But I just think to give them that responsibility and

495
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: to value them and respect them in that way, and

496
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: give them an opportunity not to be a dickhead, but

497
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: just go all right, So you can't drink and you

498
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: can't vote, but for the next year or two, you

499
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: can develop driving skills and awareness and a level of

500
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: competence that by the time you're eighteen, you've now got

501
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: two years of driving under your belt. You're an experienced,

502
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: somewhat experienced road user. I just think that's a much

503
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: smarter you know, the fact that we think seventy year

504
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: olds can drive or have potential to drive better just

505
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: because they've done it for a long time. Like, there's

506
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: a lot of physiological and cognitive and eyesight and all

507
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: of those things typically not with everyone, but deterioration. So

508
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: what were we talking about? Actually, social media band? What

509
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: about for those who have businesses, mate and make money?

510
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: It's an age restriction that's exactly right.

511
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: We know at the moment that ninety five percent of

512
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: Australian children between the age of ten and fifteen year

513
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: old have at least one social media account. Ninety five percent.

514
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of young people who are going

515
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: to be affected by this. It's a heck of a lot.

516
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: And as I said, you know that the call or

517
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: the moment is to deactivate the accounts and impose some

518
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: sort of limitation. The fines are going to be pretty

519
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: big because at the moment, this consultation that's been going

520
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 3: on has come up with these guidelines for what they

521
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: call reasonable steps that social media companies will have to

522
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: take to enforce the ban, and the fine are forty

523
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: nine point five million dollars, which is a drop in

524
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: the ocean, we know.

525
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I mean most kids can afford that.

526
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mean the kids, it's the social media

527
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: think the kids are.

528
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: Ah, that's a lot of pocket money. Bro. Hey tell

529
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 2: me why when Google says jump, businesses say how high?

530
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 4: Ah.

531
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: This is a really interesting one. And I've got to

532
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: say I had to do a double take. I read

533
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: the article and then I sent it to my collegue

534
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Robert to read the article because this affects a lot

535
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: of our clients. When you have a Google business listing, okay,

536
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: so it's separate from a website. So you type in

537
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: I don't know plumber Hampton and a list of plumbers

538
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: comes up. But on the right hand side you have

539
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: the Google business listing, which might have a map, could

540
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: have some photographs, and then it's got links to website.

541
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: Now this is a bugbear with me.

542
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: Cafes tend to not have websites, and you go to

543
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: the website link, it takes you to Facebook, and you

544
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: go to Facebook and you can't find the menu, and

545
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: then when you finally find the menu and the feed,

546
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: it's really crap quality because Facebook compacts it and optimizes

547
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: the image, but doesn't optimize the image for reading. So

548
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: what Google is going to do is now stop all

549
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: of those businesses that don't have websites and nominate Facebook

550
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: or social media as that primary link. Then that's going

551
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 3: to mean they're not going to be allowed to do

552
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: that anymore. So, in essence, if you want to promote

553
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: your business using your Google Business listing, you may be

554
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: restricted or you may be forced to go out and

555
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: get a website, and so I'm into minds about this

556
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: because as an end user, it frustrates me because if

557
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: I want to go to the website, I want to

558
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: know where they are, I want to see their menu.

559
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: Then that's important, But I just hate the fact that

560
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 3: Google as the major search engine, and we know it

561
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: is the major search engine on the planet. Once they

562
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: make a decision, everybody is then impacted by that, and

563
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 3: there's a lot of small businesses that might have to

564
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: fork out money to do this. So you know, it

565
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: kind of hits the nerve in two different ways. In

566
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: some ways, I think it's a good idea. But so

567
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: for example, if you also have a book now button

568
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: and you click the button to book say accommodation or

569
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: order now to order food, it has to go to

570
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 3: the specific area that it says. It can't be just

571
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: a random link on a general website. In the same way,

572
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: if you want to go to gym's mowing in Saint Kilda,

573
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: you can't just go to the general gym's mowing website.

574
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: It has to take you to the Sin Kilda website.

575
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: And again that means the onus is going to have

576
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: to be on big companies that have lots of franchise

577
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: operators to not just go to a generic location, but

578
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: to specifically have the location that you're searching for. It's

579
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: going to make searching a little bit better too.

580
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: Wow, if only, Tiff, we knew somebody who built websites.

581
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean, fuck, that would be if only there was

582
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: someone on this call.

583
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: You know exactly why we're talking about this topic, Tif,

584
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: don't you?

585
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: It does seem serving sides?

586
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Ah ah, oh my god, that's right. I build websites.

587
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: I could be part of the cure to this cancer.

588
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: Oh no, I.

589
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Didn't mean that at all.

590
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: No, no, fucking hell. Could you make it a bit

591
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: less thinly disguised? Next Times now, Dot come today you exactly?

592
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: Can you tell us why two billion smartphones are now

593
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: global earthquake warning systems?

594
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: That's a cool thing, don't you reckon?

595
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Oh shit, y'all want to know when an earthquake's coming?

596
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly just when you.

597
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 4: I guess you'd love to know when the Earth's going

598
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: to move for you.

599
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: So what's happened is Google has been inside each of

600
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: our phones. We have, you know, basically, an ability to

601
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: detect where the phone's being moved, when the phone's being moved.

602
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: It's called an accelerometer, and Google has employed the use

603
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: of these in a passive way a lot with all

604
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: of their phones. So say, for example, the three of

605
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: us are in a location and all of a sudden,

606
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: it detects a slight movement, and then suddenly everybody around

607
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: us there's more movement. Well, it's it's basically a massive seismometer,

608
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: and now they're able to use it as an early

609
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: warning system. So this has been rolled out in ninety

610
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: eight countries. It's kind of a motion sensor. That's that's

611
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: kind of a mesh of motion sensors right around the world,

612
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: and it's called Android's Earthquake Alert system. So the AA

613
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: ye it's been it's been around for a little while,

614
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: but it's I just kind of thought it was so cool,

615
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, two point five billion phones around the planet

616
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: being used in a positive way.

617
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: Well see whether people are meteorologists. Patrick's making you redundant

618
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: via the U project. Hey, I don't don't tell me

619
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: what this means, but I want to tell you what

620
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: I think. The next topic is airborne wind turbine with

621
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: one mega what output set for testing in China? So

622
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: airborne to me it's in the air. It's a wind

623
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: turbine and it's producing power or electricity. Okay, but it's

624
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: in there.

625
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: So imagine the Hindenburg cut in half but not exploding

626
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: in flames.

627
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: Can you explain to people what the Hindenburg is? I

628
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: know it at TIF Do you know what the Hindenburg is?

629
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: Negative?

630
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? So stop moving forward, Patrick thinking everyone's you

631
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: remember external self awareness period? Mind all that shit I

632
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: taught you, all.

633
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: Right, dirigible a hot air balloon, a flow.

634
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: There we go, there we go.

635
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: That's not a UFO, so effectively what it is, it's

636
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: a giant balloon, but it's kind of hollowed out in

637
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: the middle. It's got a turbine at the front, it's

638
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: got little fins at the back to direct it. But

639
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: it's going to be one point five kilometers up like

640
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: it's really high to take advantage of the high speed

641
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: winds that are in that part of the atmosphere. And

642
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: they're testing this at the moment in charge China, because

643
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: they're talking about a massive amount of wind up there

644
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: that can then be turned into quite large amounts of electricity.

645
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what's going to happen in terms of planes.

646
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: So I guess there'll be no fly zones and they'll

647
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: put it in areas where there's no air traffic. But

648
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: that could be pretty cool. And if you think of

649
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: the ability to be a and we're talking quite a

650
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: significant amount of electricity being able to be generated constantly

651
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: because there's always that movement of air in those higher

652
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: up atmosphere.

653
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: Can you go to your computer right now and type

654
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: in Zeppelin ze double pel I, not the group, just Zeppelin, the.

655
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: Word in front of it, don't put lead in front

656
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: of it.

657
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll see what Patrick's or a few versions

658
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: of what Patrick's so hit images and you'll see so yeah,

659
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Speaker 2: they're kind of almost like a hybrid of a plane

660
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Speaker 2: and a balloon.

661
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: And that's amazing, mate.

662
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess they're going to have to like,

663
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: is this happening or is this just a no?

664
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Speaker 4: They're testing in China.

665
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they reckon. They could run for twenty five

666
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: years without interruption, is what they say.

667
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: And we're talking one.

668
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: Megawatt output, like it's a ton of electricity. So it's

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Speaker 3: called the S fifteen hundred and it's just a yeah,

670
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: it's it's they're saying that it could also be deployed

671
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: in locations where they've been natural disasters. So if the

672
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: infrastructure has been destroyed or something's happened, they could put

673
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: these wind turbines up, these power generating airships, and at

674
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred meters high they can leave ridge all those

675
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: really strong winds and be able to generate electricity.

676
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: That's good. I like that. Let's talk about cars. I'm

677
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: going to start with your last dot point and then

678
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: you can go wherever you want. But Porsche considering adding

679
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: fake engine sounds for their evs, which you can already

680
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: get that in some other evs, but it's like, yeah,

681
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: fake V eight sounds and yeah, you know, just coming

682
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: out of a speaker.

683
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: And gear shifting as well.

684
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the one.

685
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one I can't see.

686
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: There was talk a few years ago when the first

687
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: lot of electric cars hit the market, not actually not

688
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: the first lot of electric cars, because the first lot

689
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: of electric cars were in the late early nineteen hundreds,

690
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: but that was never a problem.

691
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

692
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Speaker 4: Thanks.

693
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: So there was almost like three waves because there was

694
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: a Toyota Prius right in the nineties.

695
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then tests.

696
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: Like wasn't that a hybrid?

697
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: I know there were hybrid and actual plug and electric.

698
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, oh.

699
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: Cool, tif can you just look for it the first.

700
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: He doesn't fucking believe me.

701
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: I did say, that's right.

702
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Toyota, Prius electric, full electric.

703
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: So all right, you keep talking.

704
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: Okay, So Porsche wants to add this, but it has

705
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: it's not a precedent because there was a talk. There

706
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: was actually talk a little while ago to force car

707
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: makers to actually deliberately make engine noise sounds so that

708
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: in car parks where it's really quiet, people.

709
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: Don't get run over by electric cars.

710
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you have eyes, but for people who might

711
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: be vision impaired, you potentially could be crossing over and

712
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 3: not hear an electric car coming.

713
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Speaker 1: I've always thought that. I mean, there's where I live.

714
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Speaker 2: I would say twenty percent of the cars are electric

715
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: around my like, there are just a lot of electric cars,

716
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: and yeah there's I mean, I've never nearly died, but

717
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: there's times when I could have just stepped out because

718
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: there was no noise. And then you have some fucking

719
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, Tesla rocket by and you're like, oh, I'm

720
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: glad I paid attention.

721
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Speaker 5: What do you got to So we're looking at the

722
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: Toyota Prez full electric. Yeah yeah, seven in Japan only

723
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 5: and two year two thousand worldwide.

724
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: But still so that's quarter.

725
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Speaker 1: Of a century.

726
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: And what about Chevy Vault, which was here called a

727
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: Holden Vault. I think that also came out in the

728
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: early two thousands as fully electric, So I think that

729
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter.

730
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: But you know, there was like that, and then really.

731
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Speaker 2: Tesla just hijacked it or didn't they?

732
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 4: Oh look absolutely, do you.

733
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: Say hijacked it just sound a bit kind of mean.

734
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Speaker 3: And they just did well. They marketed really well. They

735
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: produced exceptional vehicles that had great range and all the

736
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: things that people were worried about, because range has always

737
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: been the biggest thing, particularly for Australian car buyers. Think

738
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Speaker 3: the stats for August was one in ten cars purchased

739
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: in Australia was an electric car, that said by d

740
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: for the first time in August, just by percentage on

741
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: all of the vehicles sold, just tipped Tesla off the

742
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: top of the pole, just by a little. So if

743
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: you combine all the sales of all their range of

744
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: models of electric cars, they beat out Tesla for the

745
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: first time. I still think that Tesla the Y model

746
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: is still the most popular car in the electric car

747
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: in Australia by sales, just on an individual model.

748
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Speaker 2: How do we go tip with a Vault seven as well?

749
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: What was I going to say? Yeah?

750
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: I think I mean I'm a car head. I'm always reading.

751
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: Not that I buy a lot of cars, but I

752
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: used to. But I'm always reading reviews and that you know,

753
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: remember remember back in the day, Patrick, when Korean cars

754
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: were frowned upon by Assies. What are you laughing at?

755
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: Because just being realized I much head, says the guy

756
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: who drives this Zuki Swift.

757
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: That's very hurtful.

758
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: That's very hurtful, very funny. That's so true, though.

759
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: Can I say I do have another car that isn't

760
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: a Suzuki Swift.

761
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: But you had that Suzuki for a long time before

762
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Speaker 3: you bought the new car.

763
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: I think you.

764
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Speaker 1: Guys underestimate my Suzuki Swift.

765
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Speaker 5: Tried to talk me into buy I guess Azuki Swift.

766
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 3: So hurtfulful way to butch to drive a Suzuki Swift.

767
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: That's not true, Oh she is, yet I'm not. I

768
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: could drive a fucking Barbie Beetle, you know, with a

769
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: fucking moon roof.

770
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Speaker 1: All right, continue on, Patrick, and I.

771
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Speaker 4: Just ask here's one.

772
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Speaker 3: Do you think electric car owners should be paying a

773
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: road levee?

774
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Why? Like, why would they?

775
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: Well, because there's a real problem at the moment with

776
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: that many electric cars that people aren't paying their way

777
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: because when we buy traditional fuel, part of the money

778
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: that's raised in taxes goes to repairing roads and maintenance

779
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: of roads. And they tried it in Victoria to bring

780
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: in a levee for electric cars, but it was ruled

781
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: an illegal action because it has to happen at a

782
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: federal level. And now the federal government is saying they're

783
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: going to bring it in. So they say that you know,

784
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: so basically it's a road user charge. You know, if

785
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: you're driving an electric car, you're driving on the roads,

786
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: then you need to pay some sort of levee to

787
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: be able to keep those roads maintained. So and the

788
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: prime ministers come out and said, but basically, we need

789
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: some sort of sustainable revenue to keep our roads in good.

790
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: Nick.

791
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: And you know, with one in ten cars now being electric,

792
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 3: they're going to try to overhaul the rules and extend

793
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 3: it to electric cars.

794
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: That's why hybrids are the way to go because they're

795
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: super economical and you don't get whacked with straight ev

796
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: kind of taxes and things.

797
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: I think, see what happens with that, because there's some

798
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: really good hybrids on the market at the moment where

799
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: you use electric for the first forty kilometer speed, So

800
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: if you're in low traffic, you could potentially be running

801
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: off electric for the entire time, which is great, stuffs,

802
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: fumes and all the rest of it, and then you

803
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: kick into the petrol engine once you're on the highway.

804
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: Well, can I say that that is exactly what I have,

805
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: despite TIFF's assault on my manlihood about the Suzuki, And

806
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: like I get in my hybrid fourteen hundred kilometers per tach.

807
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: That's pretty awesome. Yeah, that's you.

808
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: Could drive to Sydney.

809
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's yeah.

810
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: All right, tell us why are we done with cars?

811
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Is there anything I'm used?

812
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: Well, I just just I'm not kind of backing the

813
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: government to that degree, and I do I kind of

814
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: agree with it. I think the answer to the question

815
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: someone rhetorically, because no one answered whether they thought it

816
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: was a good idea or not. But fifty one point

817
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: six cents per liter of fuel at the bowser goes

818
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: to the governments, like tax towards the roads. So that's

819
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: the excise, that's what people are contributing towards the roads.

820
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: Every time you put a leader of petrol in whatever

821
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: you've paid for it. I think I paid nearly two

822
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: dollars a leader the other day, but about fifty one

823
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: that is going toward road use.

824
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: I regularly pay over two dollars.

825
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: What do you put in yours?

826
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: Kerosene ninety eight? No, I only ever use ninety eight.

827
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: All right, it's dearer than that down here quite often?

828
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, I think it was under two dollars.

829
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: It has been over it, but very rarely is it

830
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: for two dollars.

831
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: What are starlink doing? What are they what are they

832
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: hitting their users up for?

833
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.

834
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: They're not hitting their users, they're hitting their non users.

835
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Speaker 4: Jessah went with.

836
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Speaker 1: That, Ah to Chay.

837
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: So what starlink are doing is for a long time,

838
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: you know, people who have the mobile Starlink who go

839
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: caravanning will open up an account, they get to the hardware,

840
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: and then when they're not using it, they just suspend

841
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: their account. Now starlink is saying, well, if you want

842
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: to suspend your account and put it on hold. We're

843
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: going to start charging you a fee to put it

844
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Speaker 3: on hold.

845
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: It's in a sleeper mode to not use it.

846
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: What the that seems like a bad PR move?

847
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: You know it does.

848
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: And they're talking so if you want to pause your service,

849
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: they're talking about five bucks.

850
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: Now.

851
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: I think this is Australian in terms of the five dollars,

852
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: but it may be US five dollars. I'm not sure

853
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: because it's a funny situation because starlink, even though it's

854
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: based in the US, it's kind of based everywhere because

855
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: the satellites are everywhere. But I thought, yeah, right, so

856
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: they're kind of they're upgrading their fors mode to include

857
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: what they call a standby mode.

858
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: You know when you put your.

859
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: TV on standby, so it comes on quicker when you

860
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: they're doing with starlink, and they're charging you for it.

861
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: This one is This next one is very interesting to

862
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: me because I've been looking at my farm ever since

863
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: I read it.

864
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: You know what it is?

865
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: I do tell us, Craig, you tell us what it's about.

866
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Study links thumb length to brain size and cognition. I've

867
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: got to say I don't have overwhelmingly large thumbs. I

868
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: don't think they're diminutive. But so what are we saying

869
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 2: there's a correlation between bigger thumbs. Oh my god, yeah,

870
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: I said, I said thumbs, bigger thumbs and bigger brain

871
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: and cognitive capacity. Is that what we're saying?

872
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: And I just say that if the three of us

873
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: put our thumbs up and measured them, we would not

874
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: be able to pick the smartest person in the room.

875
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so let me.

876
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Dispel that myth right now, that's good. We're talking on

877
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: an evolutionary scale, So we compare ourselves to other primates

878
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: and animals that have opposable thumbs. There seems to be

879
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: and we're talking also about Neanderthals and other primates that

880
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: may have since gone by the way of the Dodo.

881
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: But what it effectively means is they think that there

882
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: is a link to the neo cortex, and that's the

883
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: part of the brain about well you know better than me,

884
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: linked to higher thinking, and they reckon that it has

885
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: something to do with the length of the thumb, or

886
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: there seems to be some sort of parallel with that

887
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: when they start looking through brain brain size and so it's.

888
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: Over evolutionarily, as thumbs have gotten bigger, cognitive capacity has improved.

889
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So this kind of neo cortex connection and

890
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: the cognition and sensory processing, it seems to be linked

891
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: to the length of the thumb. I thought you'd find

892
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: that interesting.

893
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I also find detecting Alzheimer's early via

894
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 2: a three minute test if it's accurate and it works, yeah,

895
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: very very interesting.

896
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was really close to home for me with

897
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: mum having had early on set Alzheimer's, and this is tests.

898
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: That are being done in Bath in the UK. I've

899
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: been to Bath.

900
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: My god, if you ever go anywhere in the UK,

901
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: you've got to go to Bath. It's stunning, beautiful, beautiful place.

902
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: Anyway, the Roman baths, all the rest of it.

903
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 3: But what they're saying at the moment is that they

904
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: think they kind of put this kind of brain scanner

905
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: on you and they start measuring stuff. Because I don't

906
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 3: know much about it, that's smart. They think they may

907
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: have a better way to detect Alzheimer's. It's very difficult

908
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: because you know, particularly with early onset or if you

909
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: may be genetically disposed to it, it's hard to detect

910
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: because it's so slow, and that's the real problem because

911
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: quite often it may be something that's happened that's caused

912
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: the symptoms to appear a bit more focused. So sometimes

913
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 3: you know, when you have a trauma in a family

914
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: and then after a period of time they say, oh, yeah,

915
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: they've bounced back. You know, someone ages over time. Sometimes

916
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: that can be the real first sign for families that

917
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: one of their loved ones actually has Alzheimer's because they're

918
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: so good at masking it. People adapt constantly. The brain's amazing.

919
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: People are fantastic at adapting. So if they're struggling with

920
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: poor memory, they look at ways to maybe write notes down,

921
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: you know, whatever the technique they put into place. So

922
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: sometimes it's really, you know, an issue that's happened that

923
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: the family notices for the first time that that loved

924
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: family member isn't recovering as quickly or hasn't bounced back

925
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: as quick and that can be an initial indicator that

926
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: they've got Alzheimer's. So if you can test for this

927
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: before those early symptoms and say okay, there's a possibility,

928
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: you know, you've got members of the family who are

929
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: elderly that have been diagnosed and you want to be

930
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: you know, you want to be tested. That means they

931
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: can have intervention drugs earlier, and which means it could

932
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: stave off the you know, the ravages of Alzheimer's way before,

933
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: and that that could help people quite significantly.

934
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: You know what they're testing or they're using now as

935
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: potential intervention and doing mountains of research on in relation

936
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: to slowing down or preventing Alzheimer's and also as a

937
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: cognitive enhancer in general for the general pop.

938
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: Tiff knows.

939
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: Do you know what it is? Tif that supplement that

940
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: people are using for cognitive improvement these days? Very common

941
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: that we.

942
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: Were talking about the other day that I keep forgetting the.

943
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Name of creatine. Oh really.

944
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, creating like over the counter creatine and not dodgy

945
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: studies like world leading universities, research teams, scientists. It's pretty

946
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: like absolute now, like it's pretty They know that a

947
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: high dose creatine, so like fifteen to twenty grams a

948
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: day versus the kind of what people normally use five

949
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: grams a day, but has shown significant benefits and potential benefits.

950
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: So it's definitely worth just having a look at. Again,

951
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: not a personal recommendation, but it really if it works,

952
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: which I think, like, I take twenty grams a day

953
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: every day and I have for the last few months,

954
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: and it generally helps me with mental acuity and focus

955
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: and also what I call cognitive endurance, like just keeping

956
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: your brain up for like the other day, I had

957
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: to talk for eight hours, and so for eight hours,

958
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: you've got to be pretty fucking one hundred percent switched on.

959
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: So I took creatine before I started, and I took

960
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: Cretein at lunchtime.

961
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, can we I just there was one other thing

962
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: about this brain wave test. It's called fastball. I just

963
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 3: mentioned that if people are actually interested, it only takes

964
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: three minutes and they're using an EEG to basically have

965
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: a look at what's you know, for mild cognitive impairment.

966
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: But you know, Creatine's been used in the fitness industry.

967
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: For a long, long, long time.

968
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: So I think one of the good things about that

969
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 3: is that we certainly know, you know, what the effects

970
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 3: are on the body after all these years.

971
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: When did you first see it in the fitness industry, right.

972
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: Ah, probably before the turn of the century, probably nineties. Yeah, yeah,

973
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: And so it's I was only five TI. If don't

974
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: fucking laugh you were born last century? What are you

975
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: laughing at?

976
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 5: Just made it sound so long ago.

977
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: Probably, Oh, you know, just after the model t Ford

978
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: was penny Farthing.

979
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: That's rush.

980
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: I bought it from David Jones in Melbourne.

981
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: I just thought of something, what a zeppelin is. She

982
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: probably doesn't know what a penny farthing is either, do

983
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: you do?

984
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: Oh? Thank god for that.

985
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: That's because she's into bikes.

986
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: Penny Farthings.

987
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: Can you describe Simmons?

988
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 4: Can you describe a penny Farthing?

989
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: Well, I hope I've got it right.

990
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 5: They're the ones with the really massive back wheel and

991
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 5: the tiny little front one.

992
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: Who is the other way around?

993
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: That's okay, we're close close enough that works and the

994
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 3: pedals on the big wheel.

995
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: Come on, chat, we've got eight minutes. Do your best work.

996
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: City of Hobart trials AI software to clamp down on

997
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: authorized short stay a com ready says go.

998
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 3: This has become a really big thing in a lot

999
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 3: of places because in Hobart if you have short term accommodation,

1000
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: they slug you with double the rates. So they're trying

1001
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: to get a slice of the pie. And I mean

1002
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: there's a lot of arguments too, that that's part of

1003
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: our housing problem that people aren't renting houses.

1004
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: They're just using it for short stay accommodation on.

1005
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: Airbnb, but a lot of people don't claim it, and

1006
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 3: so what they're using is they're use in the city

1007
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: of Hobart's using AI to scan I guess the traditional

1008
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: areas of advertising, looking at like you know, Airbnb, and

1009
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: if they see a house popping up on a regular basis,

1010
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: then they just correlate that to their database and see

1011
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: is that person registered to have their house on Airbnb

1012
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: or as a short stay and if they're not, they're

1013
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 3: slugging them with the fee.

1014
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. You know. It feels like whenever anyone does

1015
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: something where they can not scam the government but work,

1016
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: then the current laws or rules to go, oh, we

1017
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: could do this, this would make more money as soon

1018
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: as anyone. It's like a lot of people bought evs

1019
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: to save money right once, and then the government's like, nah,

1020
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: we're going to put impose a levy on you because

1021
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: you don't buy petrol and we make money from petrol,

1022
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: So because you're not buying petrol, we're going to charge

1023
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 2: you for this. I mean, it seems it seems very

1024
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: hard to actually cut a brake, because as soon as

1025
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: you figure out a way that you can, within the

1026
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: laws and rules, do something that's financially beneficial for you,

1027
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: someone's going to figure it out and then figure out

1028
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: a way to penalize the thing that you're now doing.

1029
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it just got me thinking, I don't

1030
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: know what I didn't think about this before, Craigo. If

1031
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: you're if the current tax is fifty one points something

1032
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 3: since per liter of fuel, and you start to apply

1033
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: that same formula to electric cars, that could be crippling

1034
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: to those people. You know, people who've scrimped and saved

1035
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: and got leases on cars and suddenly you're going to

1036
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 3: hit them up. I mean, that could be quite a

1037
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 3: lot of money if they're try I mean, they couldn't

1038
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: do a one to one parody with petrol cars.

1039
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: Sure, and you think about, like, sorry, mate, the bottom

1040
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 2: the bottom of the mill or still a very very

1041
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: good car. But the Tesla three now you're still going

1042
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: to pay sixty grand for that, and that's your bottom

1043
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: of the range versus say a Toyota Corolla, which is comparable,

1044
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: but petrol you're going to pay maybe thirty grand. So

1045
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: your point of entry is double the price. But you go, well,

1046
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay double because I'm going to save

1047
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: so much money in not using combustible fuel, you know.

1048
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: But then they go, nah, you're not using fuel, so

1049
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 2: we're missing out on the money that you're not spending

1050
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: on fuel.

1051
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: So now we're going to.

1052
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: Tax you for this when you just paid sixty grand

1053
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: for an electric Corolla.

1054
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: Well, a friend of mine lives down the road. Just

1055
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: when I was getting my first new car, which was

1056
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: the hybrid the Manaster, she was looking for a new

1057
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: car at the same time, and she decided to go

1058
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: for a secondhand and leaf and so buying a second

1059
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: vehicle because she couldn't afford to buy a.

1060
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: New electric car.

1061
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 3: It's got a limited range, but she'll be slugged exactly

1062
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: the same price as someone else with a one hundred

1063
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: and twenty thousand dollars Mercedes Electric if as a road

1064
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: user and it does open up, you know, how do

1065
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: you encourage people to go electric if sudden they are

1066
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: going to be slugged with a really big bill. I'm

1067
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: really going to watch this one with a lot of

1068
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: interest to see what they decide to hit people up

1069
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: for because I'm really in two minds about it. I

1070
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: think we've got to be able to keep our roads

1071
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 3: in order. So I get that, I understand it, but

1072
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: I think they're going to really temper how much they

1073
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: try to rip people for well.

1074
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: And also when you go there's all of these people

1075
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: driven by values, morals, ethics, whatever you want to call it,

1076
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: who are going, I'm actually buying an electric car mainly

1077
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 2: because of the benefit to the environment. And then they

1078
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: go and by the way, now you've got.

1079
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: To pay this, you know.

1080
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 2: And I think, actually, when ev sales incentivized by the government,

1081
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: wasn't there a five thousand dollars bonus for some period

1082
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: of time for buying one? Yeah?

1083
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: I think so.

1084
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 3: And I mean you mentioned the environmental impact, But there'd

1085
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 3: be a lot of people out there who've bought an

1086
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: electric car because it's going to save the money in

1087
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: the long term. They look at how much that's going

1088
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 3: to cost them in fuel over twelve months post five

1089
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 3: dollars to charge up the vehicle, and if you've got solar,

1090
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: potentially it could cost you nothing to charge the if

1091
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: you're in a slow trickle charge. And now suddenly, where

1092
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 3: do you go with that? Because you're now try your

1093
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: incentivizing people from doing it from a cost perspective.

1094
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, sorry, I just I'm interested in this next one,

1095
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 2: Gemini's arrival on our geminis like, is that Google's version

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Speaker 2: of AI?

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Speaker 3: That's I am so excited about this. I am the

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00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: side myself with excitement. So people who have smart homes

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00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: who are using Google, Yeah, I know my voice can

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00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 3: go up as high as when I took about Tiff,

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: but it's still pretty excited. So with home speakers and

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00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: home automation at the moment, people who use Google. So

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: there's Alexa, which is the Amazon one, Siri which is

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00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 3: kind of out there but not out there as much,

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00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: and then you've got Google Home. So Google Home currently

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00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: uses a basic form of Google interaction where I might say, hey, Google,

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00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: turn on the lights. And now Google's just heard me,

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00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: and every light in my house has just turned on?

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00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 4: Did you hear that?

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00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: Google was just asking me which lights I wanted to

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00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: turn on? So because it heard what I said, and

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00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: everybody else who's listening who's got Google Home Automation, I've

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: just turned on all their lights as well. They've got

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: their speaker. Go sorry about that, guys. But at the moment,

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: it's very limited interaction now, so what Google wants to

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: do is incorporate Gemini to make the conversation a lot

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Speaker 3: more interactive. And it may be a case of I

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00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: want to turn on the lights in my bedroom, but

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Speaker 3: Google might come back and say, well, do you want

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Speaker 3: me to turn the stair lights on as well? And

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00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: the lights on downstairs because it knows that generally the

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00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: pattern is I turn my bedroom lights on first, I

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: get changed, get ready for Jim, and then go downstairs.

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: But because it knows that's that's the usual process, it

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00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: may prompt me and say, oh, do you want me

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00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 3: to turn the stair lights on on the downstairs lights

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00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: at the same time, So it talks about a much

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Speaker 3: more human interaction.

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Speaker 4: I know that do you use claud Is that what

1131
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: you used? Craigo?

1132
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Speaker 1: I use Chat, GPT pro and Claude.

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, sope. The type of conversational interactions has not

1134
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: been there for the Google Home speakers, and that's what

1135
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to, having more of a conversation or

1136
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: more natural interactions with those Google Home orders, and that's

1137
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 3: hopefully going to be rolled out later this year, which

1138
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: sounds pretty exciting.

1139
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: And so that's is that one of those things that's

1140
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: like a physical thing that sits on a bench and

1141
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: you can just talk to it.

1142
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: Well, it sits on beside my bed, it sits in

1143
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: the lounge room, it sits in my kitchen, it sits

1144
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: in my office. Basically, Google just minus as everything I'm doing,

1145
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: and I'm carrying one in my pocket.

1146
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: You can, I ask, so how big are these things?

1147
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: Like a small Google Home speaker would fit in the

1148
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: palm of your hand. It's really tiny, the size of

1149
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: a cup, a little bit wider, but just flat, like

1150
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's really smart, like a.

1151
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: Hockey puck, which is not a good analogy for a

1152
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: non sporting person.

1153
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: A little bit bigger than a hockey puck. But yes,

1154
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: that's lawless speakers. Two larger ones that have you know,

1155
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: can be quite robust and larger bass sounds and all

1156
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. And it's not just those, you know,

1157
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: there's lots of other devices smart a lot of smart

1158
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: smart speakers now incorporate this as well. So and I've

1159
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: got a Google Mesh system which is the retransmitting of

1160
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: my WiFi. So because I have quite a large house,

1161
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: and my studio spaces in the garage. I can use

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00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: my Google Mesh to create a larger footprint for my WiFi,

1163
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: and each of those Google Mesh speakers, each of those

1164
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: are also a Google speaker as well as a rebroadcaster

1165
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: of my WiFi. So quite often people who have I mean,

1166
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: you have the same problem with your Wi Fi around

1167
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: your place because of the way that it's set up.

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00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: You find that there are little pockets of areas in

1169
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: your house that don't get good Wi Fi.

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: My WiFi is shit. I've been using my phone WiFi

1171
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: for the last three weeks. Yeah.

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00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: So if you can create a Mesh system, which is

1173
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: what Google has, it can rebroadcast and triple or quadruple

1174
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: the footprint, which is really handy, which is what I've done.

1175
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: But you also get the smart speaker technology built into

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00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 3: those as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, you've got two minutes for our last story.

1178
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: Then, for the first time, maybe in history, we've gone

1179
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: through every one of your stories.

1180
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it's pretty close. So a thirty seven

1181
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: year old guy, this was reported recently. He went to

1182
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: chat GPT. He had a sore throat and he went

1183
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: to chat CHEAPT and then months later doctors found out

1184
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: that he actually had cancer, and chat gept said, Nah,

1185
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 3: you haven't got cancer. You're fine. It's just a sore throat,

1186
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: you know. Just suck on a lifesaver or something. No,

1187
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: it's just jog it out. Yeah, jog it out, mate,

1188
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: You'll be fine. So I guess the moral of the story.

1189
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: And I know we've said this before. Don't rely on

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: medical diagnosis by chat GPT.

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01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: Please don't.

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: I had chat chat GPT.

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: He never tells you to suck on a lifesaver because

1194
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: that could be a very different outcome.

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01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, not.

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01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: In the middle of country Victoria, it might have been easier.

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01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: Did what do you got going on this weekend?

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 5: Oh? I don't know, Halps, I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Just take it easy, take it easy.

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01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 5: Take it easy.

1201
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: Just you and you a shock of redhair. Just walk

1202
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: past a building site and see how you go.

1203
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 5: Just mingle with the concrete is downstairs.

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01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

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01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 4: Do you want to catch up and we'll go take

1206
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 4: Fritzy and Luna for a walk? Oh? Yes, see that.

1207
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 5: I have to be today, though I work tomorrow, I

1208
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 5: can do it today. There we go, we'll get married.

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: Fucking fuck what are you? Both you and my dogs.

1210
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 4: I'm just raising my social life.

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 5: If anyone's not busy today or tomorrow, Patrick needs some friends.

1213
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: But Patrick needs a disparate desperate, aren't I. I'm trying

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01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 3: to even more.

1215
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: Patrick, tell everyone about you about me?

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: Well, I think they've basically got it all now.

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01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: Now if they want to contact me, just go to

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01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: websites NOOW dot com today you and we can have

1219
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 3: a chat about what is happening with your Google business profile.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. Thank you, Patrick, thank you, Thanks, Thanks listeners,