Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to the Map twenty podcast. I've
Speaker 1: got to be very quick right now because Adrian is
Speaker 1: on his way here, which I never thought i'd be saying.
Speaker 1: At the start of the season, I kind of put
Speaker 1: a message out to most of the cash just saying, hey,
Speaker 1: if you ever hear anything in the podcast that is
Speaker 1: factually incorrect, like happily let me know or come on
Speaker 1: and clarify, Like I don't wanna be just spreading fake shit.
Speaker 1: And I also think everyone deserves at least one chance
Speaker 1: to maybe get their side over or defend themselves or whatever,
Speaker 1: regardless of my personal opinion of them. And Adrian, who
Speaker 1: is the one I've obviously gone hardest against this season
Speaker 1: because I would say I personally dislike him the most,
Speaker 1: finally responded to that message this morning, saying, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: I'll come on, and like, I couldn't really say nah,
Speaker 1: you're all right, because, as I said, my whole thing
Speaker 1: is I will give everyone one chance. So yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be here any minute, and I'm feeling a bit
Speaker 1: nervous not gonna lie because I'm not like a confrontational person.
Speaker 1: I don't like you, but he's gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let him talk shit and go okay,
Speaker 1: yeah sounds good. Like I know of a journalists don't
Speaker 1: really challenge I'm not even a journalist, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I know other people in the media
Speaker 1: maybe don't challenge him because they don't want to rock
Speaker 1: the boat with Channel nine. But remember this podcast is
Speaker 1: full independent. I don't speak to Channel nine. I don't
Speaker 1: do anything with Channel nine. When I speak to the cast,
Speaker 1: it's not a range through them. There's no publicist. They've
Speaker 1: gone rogue and I've set that up myself. And anyway,
Speaker 1: I can see Pedro, who helps me produce this podcast,
Speaker 1: is waving at me, which means Asian is arriving, so
Speaker 1: fuck please wish me up. Hello, and welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Maths Swinny podcast with Me Joshua Fox and today
Speaker 1: I'm a bit nervous about this episode because I am
Speaker 1: joined by a man I've been pretty much calling a
Speaker 1: cunt on the internet for a few weeks now. I
Speaker 1: did offer him to come in the podcast a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago at the start of the season, when I
Speaker 1: fought he might have some redeeming qualities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I didn't come on because I haven't redeemed
Speaker 2: myself yet. So I thought I talked ship for a
Speaker 2: little bit longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why. I'm a bit scared about this.
Speaker 1: I'm not a confrontational guy.
Speaker 2: You know. I actually enjoy it. Man, your content action
Speaker 2: makes me laugh a little bit a little bit. I
Speaker 2: don't think you're that funny. It shouldn't be called mass funny,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Okay, should we call it my subtitles
Speaker 2: with you or something like that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what's this accent about.
Speaker 2: I'm from Sydney and where I grew up is a
Speaker 2: multicultured community. You know. I grew up around a lot
Speaker 2: of Islanders, Aboriginals, you know, Europeans and Australian. It's like
Speaker 2: a bit of everything. And it's just my accent. Bro,
Speaker 2: that's it. Like people go, oh, you need subtitles. Listen.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do mumble on blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Now sometimes I do mumble. That's just me, bro. Like
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, anyone's like, oh, you've
Speaker 2: got subtitles. Like, Bro, I'm still on the biggest show
Speaker 2: in Australia. Like, what are you doing when you watch me?
Speaker 1: And you're reading those subtitles, but didn't you refer to
Speaker 1: yourself the other day as the superstar of the season.
Speaker 2: I am. I think people forget this is drama TV
Speaker 2: and right now I'm creating drama TV. Like I look
Speaker 2: at all I'm saying. I guess it's my agreement, you
Speaker 2: can say, but is myself and people are using me.
Speaker 2: Whether they're using me for bait, you know, taking the piss,
Speaker 2: that's all good. But keep posting me. I love it.
Speaker 2: You know, the more you post me, the more people
Speaker 2: are talking about me.
Speaker 1: No, firstly though you running your own fund sites?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Man, just happily admit that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people think that was that's like awkward to cringe.
Speaker 2: I was sitting there scrolling for social media and seeing
Speaker 2: my face everywhere people using me for clicks, views, likes, bait,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, a marketing strategy would be I
Speaker 2: use myself. So if I can get extra million views
Speaker 2: on my face prior to that show finish finishing, then
Speaker 2: I will do it. Like I'm seeing on TikTok anyway,
Speaker 2: so I might as well clip up what everything else
Speaker 2: is clipping up? And so I decided to do it.
Speaker 1: Can you say this Did you go on more for
Speaker 1: fame and attention and TikTok views or to find a partner?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, because you've just admitted you did your fund
Speaker 1: site to kind of collect these views, numbers and social followers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think everyone was one hundred percent open to
Speaker 2: fall in love. So was I. But the byproduct I've
Speaker 2: gone on a show like this is you do get
Speaker 2: your two minutes of fame. You can excel your business.
Speaker 2: You might be able to capitalize post show and start
Speaker 2: your own business, own podcasts, who Knows band Deals, etcetera,
Speaker 2: make some extra money off it. But again, so you should.
Speaker 2: If you're putting yourself out there to three million people
Speaker 2: and you can be made out to be a dickhead
Speaker 2: and hated and copple the hate in the bilding in
Speaker 2: which you are, that's fine, bro. People say like no,
Speaker 2: people like oh you hated? No.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: If you see when I walk down the street, man,
Speaker 2: I've got people calling their parents saying, oh, my mom
Speaker 2: loves you. Can you speak to you on FaceTime?
Speaker 1: And how many times has that happened?
Speaker 2: It happened four times on the weekend time even start
Speaker 2: for fa You know what I actually and I'm not
Speaker 2: saying this. Man, I can't go nowhere if there's ten people,
Speaker 2: someone's noticing me. And again I'm not even saying for
Speaker 2: the right reasons. Yeah, but it's still noticing me. They're
Speaker 2: still coming up saying hello. So people think I'm getting hate.
Speaker 2: It's what you're seeing online and every video you're taking
Speaker 2: the piece out of me. And people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: you'll want two minutes of fame. Well guess what, bro,
Speaker 2: you keep you keep taking the piece out of me.
Speaker 2: You're making me more famous, respectfully, so keep doing it.
Speaker 1: But you when you had the funds that you were
Speaker 1: commenting on the post like he's a nice guy.
Speaker 2: Nah, that's full of shit that I said that one
Speaker 2: hundred percent full of shit? Was she your X fucking
Speaker 2: X man? That was the most embarrassing thinking about the podcast,
Speaker 2: minus all the lives as well. No, I literally met
Speaker 2: her once a couple of hours my friend and her
Speaker 2: friend were at COULDI Pavilion and then in anyways, spend
Speaker 2: a couple of nights Friday Saturday when she was down
Speaker 2: in Sydney for a couple of hours. Like she knows
Speaker 2: nothing about me. I brushed her on the text, like
Speaker 2: you know she wanted to hang out. She like, come
Speaker 2: to my birthday next in March. She was like, oh,
Speaker 2: come hang out Sunday night. I'm like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: And then eventually like she was, well okay, but I
Speaker 2: feel like she set me up with those photos. We
Speaker 2: went and got ice cream. Anyway, as long story short,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to give any more time. She definitely
Speaker 2: set me up as ice scream, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden people got the photos. You know, people found an Instagram,
Speaker 2: and Instagram was on private when I met her. Then
Speaker 2: it's automatically on actually funny enough, automatically on public. And
Speaker 2: she I think it was maybe you that first mentioned it.
Speaker 1: Oh is she the girl who's asked you were grabbing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That one Oh that was posted? Yeah yeah, so
Speaker 2: that was me who ruined the fat Yeah yeah, no,
Speaker 2: we're still together, but put in an open relationship.
Speaker 1: I know it's opening.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you went on.
Speaker 2: That was old news anyway, That wasn't even not that
Speaker 2: I wasn't fucking it was before this, right.
Speaker 1: So you're saying you met this chick once I posted
Speaker 1: those videos of you grabbing ther ass. She's then kind
Speaker 1: of trying to run with that as in, she's your
Speaker 1: girlfriend and gone on Abby.
Speaker 2: Champion's podcast, that is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen,
Speaker 2: like maybe jumped out of the car. She was begging
Speaker 2: me to jump out of the car double bay. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I want to get the count. She's like putting my
Speaker 2: arm around her shoulders her I'm trying to hold my
Speaker 2: hand blah blah blah, and she was like consistent as
Speaker 2: I'm like no, like you know, right now, my wedding
Speaker 2: just aired and I found a weird as and then
Speaker 2: eventually I was like, okay, well I'm an uncomfortable position,
Speaker 2: like she keeps doing it and I put my hand
Speaker 2: arm around it for two seconds and that's when I
Speaker 2: got That's when I got caught. And mind you, she
Speaker 2: was at dinner with a friend, but I never seen
Speaker 2: her friends. When seen all these photos come out, I'm like,
Speaker 2: but I'm mutually this stuff, like I'm not new. I'm
Speaker 2: new to being in public the public guy, and people
Speaker 2: want to use you for their two seconds. Like it's
Speaker 2: weird to me, but I guess there's people out there
Speaker 2: that look for that two seconds and she wants to
Speaker 2: use me for it. You know what hats off, You
Speaker 2: got your two seconds.
Speaker 1: But what do you think of Abby Chatfield Dan for
Speaker 1: welcoming her onto her podcast?
Speaker 2: Oh? Abby straight? Right? Yeah? Listen fuck Abby? Is I
Speaker 2: try to be respectful here? Yeah? Me and Abby would
Speaker 2: never be friends, we see. I mean, how dumb would
Speaker 2: you have to be to have someone on the podcast
Speaker 2: talk about someone not fact check anyone or anything. I mean,
Speaker 2: she will sit there and call me dumb, but you
Speaker 2: know she won't look in the mirror. She's sitting there
Speaker 2: and saying, Oh, we've got text and we've got this,
Speaker 2: and that there's a reason and I don't think. Let's
Speaker 2: be real, Abby wasn't. Abby wouldn't have held those texts
Speaker 2: back if there was anything bad, because they will favor
Speaker 2: with me. So she's like, oh, we get text and
Speaker 2: show them, Abbey if you're watching this show, because I
Speaker 2: have the real text. And she would never do that
Speaker 2: because then her followers will realize she's an idiot. I
Speaker 2: mean I say that by her followers.
Speaker 1: Don't that feels dangerous to call Abby's fans idiots because
Speaker 1: she's got such a loyal female following of people that
Speaker 1: kind of already hate you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the blind leeds, the blind, So you
Speaker 2: know anything that like anyone that is that closed off
Speaker 2: like she is. And mind you, wasn't she on a
Speaker 2: reality TV show The Bachelor? The Bachelor? Was she the
Speaker 2: person or.
Speaker 1: Was she one of the was one of the fifty
Speaker 1: and and came runner up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously she didn't win. There's probably a number of
Speaker 2: reasons why, I think.
Speaker 1: But to me, you like, don't like Abbi because she
Speaker 1: may be her whole brand is kind of calling out
Speaker 1: men who have behavior like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she calls out men that actually have a voice
Speaker 2: and has some standards and morals and are happy to
Speaker 2: speak their mind. That's what she does. And if she
Speaker 2: gets a man, a man's man, she can't handle it.
Speaker 2: You know. That's why her partner's in there. What's what's
Speaker 2: he doing? Is in there organizing her yogas from day
Speaker 2: Jude dates. I mean, okay, we'll moving on from a
Speaker 2: there we get sidetracked. Have you shocked Sierra? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Me and Sarah were never a thing.
Speaker 1: Have you kissed her?
Speaker 2: Listen? I've said this a number of times to people
Speaker 2: I've spoken to. There's things that I don't care how
Speaker 2: maths play me out to be. You can pay me
Speaker 2: to be the victim, and you can play mass can
Speaker 2: pay me out to be the villain. They can play
Speaker 2: me out to be a dickhead. That's okay. But if
Speaker 2: you pay me out to be something I'm not, which
Speaker 2: is a cheater, that's what pisces me off. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, not saying I definitely could be a dickad
Speaker 2: sometimes for sure, So that's what I say. I don't
Speaker 2: mind that. But when you pay me to be a
Speaker 2: fucking cheater, when that goes against my morals and I'm
Speaker 2: like firm on that, like I'll watch that back, and
Speaker 2: that pieces me off and I'm happy to be like, well,
Speaker 2: this is the truth. The only person that was blindsided
Speaker 2: in that whole experiment was me by my mate Billy
Speaker 2: saying he was blindsided. That was it because I told
Speaker 2: Billy everything, and you know, he sat there and made
Speaker 2: out like, oh I never knew he knew everything.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The only person made he may look like a dickhead
Speaker 2: in my eyes was.
Speaker 1: Me on the subject of cheating. Sorry to go back
Speaker 1: to confessions on the honeymoon. Yeah, so I think admits
Speaker 1: the once kissing a man in the bar or that
Speaker 1: was y Yeah, when she was in a relationship. Then
Speaker 1: you like you're judging, are hard for that? But then
Speaker 1: the producers like, mate, I've read your application. You did
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I want people to understand.
Speaker 1: So have you ever cheated on someone? No? Not going
Speaker 1: to kiss?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So what was an application?
Speaker 2: The fine? The reason why I laughed, you know again,
Speaker 2: mirror and set now so they try to catch it
Speaker 2: out and make it look stupid, and I laughed, like
Speaker 2: you see me people. I've seen a number of comments, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's always smoking, he's always yeah, he's always smiling. I
Speaker 2: do that when I'm uncomfortable, or do that when you know,
Speaker 2: obviously things are funny. I do that when when you
Speaker 2: call out yeah nah no, because when they when the
Speaker 2: when the producers asked me that, I knew they were
Speaker 2: trying to catch me out. I know for a fact
Speaker 2: I can literally put, you know, ten thousand dollars that
Speaker 2: they would never find that application with me saying I cheated.
Speaker 2: So when they asked that, I was like, huh, taking
Speaker 2: the piece, like trying to catch me out. Like my
Speaker 2: first reaction was like, lowe, come on. So that's why
Speaker 2: my face went like that.
Speaker 1: But on the on the subject of Athena Jacking. You
Speaker 1: were just not as nice to her as maybe you
Speaker 1: could have been consistently throughout the experiment.
Speaker 2: We were, if not, the strongest couple in the experiment,
Speaker 2: especially up to now Lucky.
Speaker 1: But you literally just left it because you went in
Speaker 1: the promo shoot.
Speaker 2: I wasn't in the premio because I got asked to leave.
Speaker 2: I got told to leave. I had another choice but to.
Speaker 1: Leave, leave the experiment.
Speaker 2: I leave the shoot, to leave the to leave the experiment.
Speaker 2: So I left the shoot because I left the shoot
Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. Me and production had a
Speaker 2: chat prior to that premio day was no one knows
Speaker 2: about it, it was disclosed, and then that was sort
Speaker 2: of part of the reason why I left on that day.
Speaker 2: And on top of it, it was fifty degrees. They
Speaker 2: wanted me to sit in a ten for two to
Speaker 2: three hours fifty degrees well like in that werehouse it
Speaker 2: would have been. It was summer with the middle of summer,
Speaker 2: and where the warehouse was, the sun comes straight in
Speaker 2: directing and want me sitting in the tent for like
Speaker 2: two to three hours. So I decided, well, see you later.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to the apartments. You want
Speaker 2: me later, you could go back. Get a phone call
Speaker 2: when I get back to the apartments. Why'd you leave?
Speaker 2: Someone blowing up on the line, someone from production, two
Speaker 2: people on the phone, someone geting at me, disrespecting me,
Speaker 2: and I'm being nothing by night. I would have went back,
Speaker 2: had to ask me nicely, and they're like, get your
Speaker 2: bags and get out. Hence why you see my bag.
Speaker 2: Hence why you still see my bag in the room
Speaker 2: when I left, because I never took them with me.
Speaker 1: And then put the phone call to Afena. You said
Speaker 1: I've left at home because of the shoot. No, she
Speaker 1: knew exactly why I left. It was them telling me
Speaker 1: to leave, and I was like, no, I'm not leaving
Speaker 1: out of my choice.
Speaker 2: This is your choice. They made out that I was
Speaker 2: leaving my wife, and then they called me agent and
Speaker 2: come back on Monday for the dinner party. And I
Speaker 2: came back. I'd hold them to grudges, and you know,
Speaker 2: Athena still wanted to be there as well. My mindset was, okay,
Speaker 2: if I left me, if me and Afina are real,
Speaker 2: then this will last outside this experiment, So I don't
Speaker 2: need this experiment for us to stay together. But she
Speaker 2: wanted to be there and I want to be there.
Speaker 2: I was having a great time, you know, and they
Speaker 2: also said come back. So I came back. No hard
Speaker 2: feelings whatever, Let's move on. But the fact that making
Speaker 2: me out to making me out that I left because
Speaker 2: of the stupid promo, like if I wanted to be
Speaker 2: in the promo, I would have stayed, well, wouldn't I?
Speaker 2: And on top of it went you're in it that
Speaker 2: they wanted to be doing red flags and green flags.
Speaker 2: Bro's cringe. Azz I didn't care about that. If anything,
Speaker 2: if anything, no one want to know now, I did
Speaker 2: myself a world of favors leaving that promo.
Speaker 1: So I first seen you, well, first thing i've seen
Speaker 1: you about in the experiment. Never spoke to you because
Speaker 1: I was crashing film and I was told to go away.
Speaker 1: Last week I was in Melbourne. I see Athena leaves
Speaker 1: the girls little Valentine's lunch. You rock up in a
Speaker 1: car and you don't get out the cars a great
Speaker 1: You don't give her a hug, you don't fucking give
Speaker 1: her any romance and Valentine's Day, you dangle one shitty
Speaker 1: single rows out the car window to her as she
Speaker 1: then struggles in the back next to a car seat.
Speaker 2: Oh man, listen, Billy thought he was blindsided. I was.
Speaker 2: I didn't know you were there. If I knew you,
Speaker 2: they would have got a forty five roses jumped out
Speaker 2: of the car.
Speaker 1: But then you the you two then drove off and
Speaker 1: then you went to like a football game or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you then took the rose back of her because you
Speaker 1: filmed the TikTok given her the same rose again, So
Speaker 1: that's fake. You fake that just for social media cloud.
Speaker 2: No it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It's fake.
Speaker 2: I bought it the rose, so it can't be fake.
Speaker 1: But you faked given earth so you can film it
Speaker 1: to pretend you're still together.
Speaker 2: I gave it to it and all together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I seen you grabbing that girl's ass go video
Speaker 1: every week?
Speaker 2: When was that? No one's fact checked that when the
Speaker 2: time I did check it? Did you?
Speaker 1: When you send an iPhone video, it's got a time
Speaker 1: stump on it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, does it short?
Speaker 1: I did? I did a whole podcast. I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't say sorry about into your shitty podcast.
Speaker 1: My shitty podcast like it. But the rose, so you
Speaker 1: admit like that was staged?
Speaker 2: Then? No, I gave her the rose, and then we
Speaker 2: thought it'd be cue to do a video and you
Speaker 2: know who said we're not together? And it was a
Speaker 2: cute video and now we've got that. We got that
Speaker 2: from memories.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a cute video. But to me that
Speaker 1: you starting this kind of pisopin to pretend you're still
Speaker 1: together because you're getting so much hate, so much backlash
Speaker 1: that if you.
Speaker 2: Hate, I haven't noticed any Bro, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Just go on my page. Did you see yesterday I
Speaker 1: made a video of deleting you out of every picture.
Speaker 2: That is that I did. Man, listen, hots off, Bro,
Speaker 2: that was pretty funny. Yeah, I mean it's a shame
Speaker 2: we can't do in real life. Yeah, interest No, to
Speaker 2: be honest, bro, even hating that you can't even care
Speaker 2: like reality is. Man, you asked the people on the show,
Speaker 2: who's one of your favorite people in the show, and
Speaker 2: I guarantee most people will say me because I'm genuine, Bro.
Speaker 1: And have you actually ask people that?
Speaker 2: Man? People like, oh, you're confident dude. Bro, anyone watching
Speaker 2: this take notes you should be a confident person. You
Speaker 2: should love yourself more than anyone else, and to love
Speaker 2: someone else you got to love yourself first, bro. So
Speaker 2: that's how I view And people are like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: listening to that. I am, But you love.
Speaker 1: Yourself more than you could have loved the fener.
Speaker 2: Than man got the best loving bro.
Speaker 1: And do you admit now that was cruel to say
Speaker 1: that I'll never love your child as much as I
Speaker 1: could love my own?
Speaker 2: Do I admit that was wrong?
Speaker 1: No? It savage?
Speaker 2: It was. It was the truth. But man, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I said, reality is, how do you know unless you're
Speaker 2: in that situation? So you can't say if someone goes,
Speaker 2: can you run to? Any case? You never have you go?
Speaker 2: I don't know. She still try.
Speaker 1: Surely there was a nicer way to deliver that MW.
Speaker 2: I delivered five hundred ways. They just clipped the one
Speaker 2: they thought they thought was gonna be the most impactful,
Speaker 2: and they did and clearly worked. Yeah, listen, the thing
Speaker 2: up until the now, even our biggest problem was us
Speaker 2: living in different states. It's not the kid, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I reckon, she should have been much Rebilia. Then he's
Speaker 1: a nice guy. She's a nice girl, both living puff
Speaker 1: happy days. Yeah, bro, listen, you're dipping it in Sierra,
Speaker 1: so there you go.
Speaker 2: And trust me, you know that was that. Well, I
Speaker 2: guess you can thank the experts for that. Man. They
Speaker 2: pair it up. They paid us up for a reason, bro,
Speaker 2: and clearly it worked.
Speaker 1: Well it doesn't because you're not with it.
Speaker 2: You know who else is together? Who else is even?
Speaker 2: Who else is even friends? Who else have you seen
Speaker 2: together from the experiment minus the ones that have lasted together?
Speaker 2: And if that doesn't speak olumes and.
Speaker 1: I seen Marie and Jeff. He dropped out that Valentine's
Speaker 1: fingers out and give her a kiss. They're legit together.
Speaker 1: He kissed her with up me with realizing I was
Speaker 1: there and like you realize that for a rosa in our.
Speaker 2: Core feend right now and watch come on then pick
Speaker 2: up there. What's your name again, Bro, It's Josh. No,
Speaker 2: I'm sure if you speaks up? Thanks man?
Speaker 1: Okay? Well yeah, well, so as was the relationships going
Speaker 1: strong present day?
Speaker 2: It was last night, me and a feeling. We definitely
Speaker 2: have an ups and downs man, Like that was a thing.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: We definitely were one of the strongest couples there even
Speaker 2: now we are, man not straight out like I said
Speaker 2: before on another podcast, like the most anno anything watching
Speaker 2: our time back is that people wondering, like, as a
Speaker 2: single mom away from her child spending time with that guy,
Speaker 2: that's the most annoying thing. Watching backward was like, man,
Speaker 2: she's a strong woman, she's a loving mom. If there
Speaker 2: was nothing there, she would have packed up and left
Speaker 2: well and truly by now. So watching that back, man,
Speaker 2: that's the hardest thing. Watching the back is like, come on,
Speaker 2: you can show our good moments. And even now we
Speaker 2: asked the other couples, who was one of the strongest couples.
Speaker 2: People say us, But then here for the drama on
Speaker 2: reality TV, and obviously we're giving it to production and
Speaker 2: then they're just choosing that. But man, I think I
Speaker 2: know the last how the last half go, whether they
Speaker 2: play it the way it does you know, I think
Speaker 2: we Yeah, no spoilers, but I think things will turn around.
Speaker 1: Already another spoiler. You're not together?
Speaker 2: They do we get together to the end. Maybe we're
Speaker 2: having some time apart. Maybe maybe we're on a rough
Speaker 2: stage right now, and maybe.
Speaker 1: You're faking it by throwing roads. Is that I will
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I appreciate the fact you came onto the podcast,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to apologize for making fun of
Speaker 1: you because I'm going to continue to do it.
Speaker 2: No, man, you're on my next hist too. So I
Speaker 2: roasted Abby. I arroasted the other dude. I don't know
Speaker 2: who his name goingyrows and eyelashes and who's that? That's right,
Speaker 2: who's that? Bro? No reality TV reviews, so he knows
Speaker 2: I said, no eyebrows? Fuck man, that guy's got ahead
Speaker 2: and sitting there they're calling people for their looks. Like,
Speaker 2: come on, bro, see on what I do.
Speaker 1: I I don't actually agree with like making fun of
Speaker 1: people's looks, and like, I think you can have fun
Speaker 1: by going along with the storylines like yesterday deleting you
Speaker 1: from the promise to me that was funny.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, man, Man, I would say that stuff.
Speaker 2: I laugh, Bro, it's funny. It generally is funny. I
Speaker 2: don't take anything serious like this is media. Man. You
Speaker 2: got a job. You're doing your job, like you he
Speaker 2: need to get cliques. How you get paid perhaps off
Speaker 2: sam as a production people see then cry, oh they
Speaker 2: made me look like a bad edit. Bro. You signed
Speaker 2: up to go on that show. You signed your life
Speaker 2: aways and you can make me look however you want.
Speaker 2: Like you know, say, media do it. It doesn't bother
Speaker 2: your like. It's more like the people like you do
Speaker 2: this and do that, like it's like, bro, who are you?
Speaker 2: But at the same time, well.
Speaker 1: I think with my platform as well, I will always
Speaker 1: give someone a chance. I will roast you happily. I
Speaker 1: would give my opinion on the storylines. But like as
Speaker 1: I said, I messaged you a few weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: now you're here, and I'm happy to have a conversation
Speaker 1: because to me, if I didn't welcome you on, then
Speaker 1: I feel as bad as the producers.
Speaker 2: Like I'm doing my own narrative. I I give you
Speaker 2: the chance and respect, bro, and honestly, don't stop roasting me.
Speaker 2: But one question, can you understand me better in person
Speaker 2: than you do on TV?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: So what was that fair?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, do you want to get up my studio?
Speaker 2: No, it's my studio now, Bro, It's that's funny. Now,
Speaker 2: it's actually funny because I'm sitting in here.
Speaker 1: But I think the laughing you're not with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably not wrong. Fuck you know anyways, guys,
Speaker 2: nice to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's gone, Ah fuck, how did that go? I
Speaker 1: don't even know? Padro says it went all right because
Speaker 1: he was listening. But I feel like I could have.
Speaker 1: I could have gone harder, I could have been more aggressive,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, that's awesome, it's it's not me.
Speaker 2: And then that.
Speaker 1: Would have just felt disingenuous and fake and like I
Speaker 1: was doing it just for the sake of doing it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think I held my
Speaker 1: own I don't know. You guys can be the judge,
Speaker 1: but like I just as I said, I don't like
Speaker 1: confrontation and things like that. But yeah, thanks for listening. Fuck,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what to say
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just like that was also unexpected. I
Speaker 1: was so not prepared. It happened so fast. But yeah,
Speaker 1: has my opinion of him changed, Not really, so yeah,