WEBVTT - I Called Adrian A C*** To His Face (Our Very Awkward Interview)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome back to the Map twenty podcast. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to be very quick right now because Adrian is

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<v Speaker 1>on his way here, which I never thought i'd be saying.

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<v Speaker 1>At the start of the season, I kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>a message out to most of the cash just saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever hear anything in the podcast that is

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<v Speaker 1>factually incorrect, like happily let me know or come on

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<v Speaker 1>and clarify, Like I don't wanna be just spreading fake shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think everyone deserves at least one chance

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe get their side over or defend themselves or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of my personal opinion of them. And Adrian, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the one I've obviously gone hardest against this season

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<v Speaker 1>because I would say I personally dislike him the most,

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<v Speaker 1>finally responded to that message this morning, saying, yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come on, and like, I couldn't really say nah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're all right, because, as I said, my whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>is I will give everyone one chance. So yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be here any minute, and I'm feeling a bit

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<v Speaker 1>nervous not gonna lie because I'm not like a confrontational person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like you, but he's gonna sit here and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna let him talk shit and go okay,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah sounds good. Like I know of a journalists don't

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<v Speaker 1>really challenge I'm not even a journalist, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like I know other people in the media

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<v Speaker 1>maybe don't challenge him because they don't want to rock

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<v Speaker 1>the boat with Channel nine. But remember this podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>full independent. I don't speak to Channel nine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything with Channel nine. When I speak to the cast,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a range through them. There's no publicist. They've

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<v Speaker 1>gone rogue and I've set that up myself. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see Pedro, who helps me produce this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>is waving at me, which means Asian is arriving, so

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<v Speaker 1>fuck please wish me up. Hello, and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Maths Swinny podcast with Me Joshua Fox and today

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit nervous about this episode because I am

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<v Speaker 1>joined by a man I've been pretty much calling a

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<v Speaker 1>cunt on the internet for a few weeks now. I

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<v Speaker 1>did offer him to come in the podcast a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago at the start of the season, when I

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<v Speaker 1>fought he might have some redeeming qualities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I didn't come on because I haven't redeemed

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<v Speaker 2>myself yet. So I thought I talked ship for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know why. I'm a bit scared about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a confrontational guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I actually enjoy it. Man, your content action

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<v Speaker 2>makes me laugh a little bit a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you're that funny. It shouldn't be called mass funny,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. Okay, should we call it my subtitles

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<v Speaker 2>with you or something like that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So what's this accent about.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Sydney and where I grew up is a

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<v Speaker 2>multicultured community. You know. I grew up around a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Islanders, Aboriginals, you know, Europeans and Australian. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of everything. And it's just my accent. Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. Like people go, oh, you need subtitles. Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I do mumble on blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now sometimes I do mumble. That's just me, bro. Like

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, anyone's like, oh, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got subtitles. Like, Bro, I'm still on the biggest show

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. Like, what are you doing when you watch me?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're reading those subtitles, but didn't you refer to

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<v Speaker 1>yourself the other day as the superstar of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I think people forget this is drama TV

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<v Speaker 2>and right now I'm creating drama TV. Like I look

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<v Speaker 2>at all I'm saying. I guess it's my agreement, you

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<v Speaker 2>can say, but is myself and people are using me.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether they're using me for bait, you know, taking the piss,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all good. But keep posting me. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the more you post me, the more people

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, firstly though you running your own fund sites?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, just happily admit that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people think that was that's like awkward to cringe.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there scrolling for social media and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>my face everywhere people using me for clicks, views, likes, bait,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, a marketing strategy would be I

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<v Speaker 2>use myself. So if I can get extra million views

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<v Speaker 2>on my face prior to that show finish finishing, then

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<v Speaker 2>I will do it. Like I'm seeing on TikTok anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so I might as well clip up what everything else

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<v Speaker 2>is clipping up? And so I decided to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say this Did you go on more for

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<v Speaker 1>fame and attention and TikTok views or to find a partner?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not, because you've just admitted you did your fund

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<v Speaker 1>site to kind of collect these views, numbers and social followers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think everyone was one hundred percent open to

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<v Speaker 2>fall in love. So was I. But the byproduct I've

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<v Speaker 2>gone on a show like this is you do get

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<v Speaker 2>your two minutes of fame. You can excel your business.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be able to capitalize post show and start

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<v Speaker 2>your own business, own podcasts, who Knows band Deals, etcetera,

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<v Speaker 2>make some extra money off it. But again, so you should.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're putting yourself out there to three million people

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<v Speaker 2>and you can be made out to be a dickhead

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<v Speaker 2>and hated and copple the hate in the bilding in

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<v Speaker 2>which you are, that's fine, bro. People say like no,

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<v Speaker 2>people like oh you hated? No.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>If you see when I walk down the street, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got people calling their parents saying, oh, my mom

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<v Speaker 2>loves you. Can you speak to you on FaceTime?

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<v Speaker 1>And how many times has that happened?

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<v Speaker 2>It happened four times on the weekend time even start

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<v Speaker 2>for fa You know what I actually and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying this. Man, I can't go nowhere if there's ten people,

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<v Speaker 2>someone's noticing me. And again I'm not even saying for

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<v Speaker 2>the right reasons. Yeah, but it's still noticing me. They're

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<v Speaker 2>still coming up saying hello. So people think I'm getting hate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what you're seeing online and every video you're taking

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<v Speaker 2>the piece out of me. And people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll want two minutes of fame. Well guess what, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>you keep you keep taking the piece out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're making me more famous, respectfully, so keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you when you had the funds that you were

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<v Speaker 1>commenting on the post like he's a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, that's full of shit that I said that one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent full of shit? Was she your X fucking

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<v Speaker 2>X man? That was the most embarrassing thinking about the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>minus all the lives as well. No, I literally met

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<v Speaker 2>her once a couple of hours my friend and her

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<v Speaker 2>friend were at COULDI Pavilion and then in anyways, spend

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of nights Friday Saturday when she was down

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney for a couple of hours. Like she knows

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<v Speaker 2>nothing about me. I brushed her on the text, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know she wanted to hang out. She like, come

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<v Speaker 2>to my birthday next in March. She was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>come hang out Sunday night. I'm like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>And then eventually like she was, well okay, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like she set me up with those photos. We

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<v Speaker 2>went and got ice cream. Anyway, as long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to give any more time. She definitely

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<v Speaker 2>set me up as ice scream, and all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden people got the photos. You know, people found an Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>and Instagram was on private when I met her. Then

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<v Speaker 2>it's automatically on actually funny enough, automatically on public. And

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<v Speaker 2>she I think it was maybe you that first mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is she the girl who's asked you were grabbing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That one Oh that was posted? Yeah yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was me who ruined the fat Yeah yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still together, but put in an open relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's opening.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you went on.

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<v Speaker 2>That was old news anyway, That wasn't even not that

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't fucking it was before this, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying you met this chick once I posted

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<v Speaker 1>those videos of you grabbing ther ass. She's then kind

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to run with that as in, she's your

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend and gone on Abby.

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<v Speaker 2>Champion's podcast, that is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe jumped out of the car. She was begging

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<v Speaker 2>me to jump out of the car double bay. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get the count. She's like putting my

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<v Speaker 2>arm around her shoulders her I'm trying to hold my

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<v Speaker 2>hand blah blah blah, and she was like consistent as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like no, like you know, right now, my wedding

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<v Speaker 2>just aired and I found a weird as and then

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<v Speaker 2>eventually I was like, okay, well I'm an uncomfortable position,

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<v Speaker 2>like she keeps doing it and I put my hand

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<v Speaker 2>arm around it for two seconds and that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>got That's when I got caught. And mind you, she

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<v Speaker 2>was at dinner with a friend, but I never seen

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<v Speaker 2>her friends. When seen all these photos come out, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm mutually this stuff, like I'm not new. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>new to being in public the public guy, and people

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<v Speaker 2>want to use you for their two seconds. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>weird to me, but I guess there's people out there

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<v Speaker 2>that look for that two seconds and she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>use me for it. You know what hats off, You

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<v Speaker 2>got your two seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you think of Abby Chatfield Dan for

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<v Speaker 1>welcoming her onto her podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Abby straight? Right? Yeah? Listen fuck Abby? Is I

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<v Speaker 2>try to be respectful here? Yeah? Me and Abby would

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<v Speaker 2>never be friends, we see. I mean, how dumb would

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be to have someone on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>talk about someone not fact check anyone or anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she will sit there and call me dumb, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know she won't look in the mirror. She's sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, Oh, we've got text and we've got this,

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<v Speaker 2>and that there's a reason and I don't think. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>be real, Abby wasn't. Abby wouldn't have held those texts

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<v Speaker 2>back if there was anything bad, because they will favor

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<v Speaker 2>with me. So she's like, oh, we get text and

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<v Speaker 2>show them, Abbey if you're watching this show, because I

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<v Speaker 2>have the real text. And she would never do that

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<v Speaker 2>because then her followers will realize she's an idiot. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I say that by her followers.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't that feels dangerous to call Abby's fans idiots because

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<v Speaker 1>she's got such a loyal female following of people that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of already hate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the blind leeds, the blind, So you

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<v Speaker 2>know anything that like anyone that is that closed off

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<v Speaker 2>like she is. And mind you, wasn't she on a

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV show The Bachelor? The Bachelor? Was she the

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<v Speaker 2>person or.

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<v Speaker 1>Was she one of the was one of the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>and and came runner up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously she didn't win. There's probably a number of

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, you like, don't like Abbi because she

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<v Speaker 1>may be her whole brand is kind of calling out

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<v Speaker 1>men who have behavior like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she calls out men that actually have a voice

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<v Speaker 2>and has some standards and morals and are happy to

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<v Speaker 2>speak their mind. That's what she does. And if she

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<v Speaker 2>gets a man, a man's man, she can't handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. That's why her partner's in there. What's what's

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<v Speaker 2>he doing? Is in there organizing her yogas from day

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<v Speaker 2>Jude dates. I mean, okay, we'll moving on from a

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<v Speaker 2>there we get sidetracked. Have you shocked Sierra? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and Sarah were never a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you kissed her?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen? I've said this a number of times to people

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<v Speaker 2>I've spoken to. There's things that I don't care how

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<v Speaker 2>maths play me out to be. You can pay me

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<v Speaker 2>to be the victim, and you can play mass can

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<v Speaker 2>pay me out to be the villain. They can play

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<v Speaker 2>me out to be a dickhead. That's okay. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you pay me out to be something I'm not, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a cheater, that's what pisces me off. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not saying I definitely could be a dickad

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes for sure, So that's what I say. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mind that. But when you pay me to be a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking cheater, when that goes against my morals and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like firm on that, like I'll watch that back, and

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<v Speaker 2>that pieces me off and I'm happy to be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the truth. The only person that was blindsided

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<v Speaker 2>in that whole experiment was me by my mate Billy

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<v Speaker 2>saying he was blindsided. That was it because I told

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<v Speaker 2>Billy everything, and you know, he sat there and made

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<v Speaker 2>out like, oh I never knew he knew everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The only person made he may look like a dickhead

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<v Speaker 2>in my eyes was.

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<v Speaker 1>Me on the subject of cheating. Sorry to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to confessions on the honeymoon. Yeah, so I think admits

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<v Speaker 1>the once kissing a man in the bar or that

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<v Speaker 1>was y Yeah, when she was in a relationship. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you like you're judging, are hard for that? But then

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<v Speaker 1>the producers like, mate, I've read your application. You did

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<v Speaker 1>the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I want people to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So have you ever cheated on someone? No? Not going

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<v Speaker 1>to kiss?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>So what was an application?

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<v Speaker 2>The fine? The reason why I laughed, you know again,

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<v Speaker 2>mirror and set now so they try to catch it

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<v Speaker 2>out and make it look stupid, and I laughed, like

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<v Speaker 2>you see me people. I've seen a number of comments, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's always smoking, he's always yeah, he's always smiling. I

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<v Speaker 2>do that when I'm uncomfortable, or do that when you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously things are funny. I do that when when you

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<v Speaker 2>call out yeah nah no, because when they when the

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<v Speaker 2>when the producers asked me that, I knew they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to catch me out. I know for a fact

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<v Speaker 2>I can literally put, you know, ten thousand dollars that

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<v Speaker 2>they would never find that application with me saying I cheated.

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<v Speaker 2>So when they asked that, I was like, huh, taking

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<v Speaker 2>the piece, like trying to catch me out. Like my

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<v Speaker 2>first reaction was like, lowe, come on. So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>my face went like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the on the subject of Athena Jacking. You

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<v Speaker 1>were just not as nice to her as maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could have been consistently throughout the experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>We were, if not, the strongest couple in the experiment,

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<v Speaker 2>especially up to now Lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>But you literally just left it because you went in

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<v Speaker 1>the promo shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't in the premio because I got asked to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I got told to leave. I had another choice but to.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave, leave the experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>I leave the shoot, to leave the to leave the experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>So I left the shoot because I left the shoot

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<v Speaker 2>for a number of reasons. Me and production had a

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<v Speaker 2>chat prior to that premio day was no one knows

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<v Speaker 2>about it, it was disclosed, and then that was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of part of the reason why I left on that day.

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<v Speaker 2>And on top of it, it was fifty degrees. They

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me to sit in a ten for two to

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<v Speaker 2>three hours fifty degrees well like in that werehouse it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been. It was summer with the middle of summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and where the warehouse was, the sun comes straight in

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<v Speaker 2>directing and want me sitting in the tent for like

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<v Speaker 2>two to three hours. So I decided, well, see you later.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go back to the apartments. You want

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<v Speaker 2>me later, you could go back. Get a phone call

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<v Speaker 2>when I get back to the apartments. Why'd you leave?

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<v Speaker 2>Someone blowing up on the line, someone from production, two

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<v Speaker 2>people on the phone, someone geting at me, disrespecting me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm being nothing by night. I would have went back,

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<v Speaker 2>had to ask me nicely, and they're like, get your

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<v Speaker 2>bags and get out. Hence why you see my bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Hence why you still see my bag in the room

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<v Speaker 2>when I left, because I never took them with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then put the phone call to Afena. You said

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<v Speaker 1>I've left at home because of the shoot. No, she

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<v Speaker 1>knew exactly why I left. It was them telling me

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<v Speaker 1>to leave, and I was like, no, I'm not leaving

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<v Speaker 1>out of my choice.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your choice. They made out that I was

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<v Speaker 2>leaving my wife, and then they called me agent and

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<v Speaker 2>come back on Monday for the dinner party. And I

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<v Speaker 2>came back. I'd hold them to grudges, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Athena still wanted to be there as well. My mindset was, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if I left me, if me and Afina are real,

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<v Speaker 2>then this will last outside this experiment, So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need this experiment for us to stay together. But she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be there and I want to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having a great time, you know, and they

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<v Speaker 2>also said come back. So I came back. No hard

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<v Speaker 2>feelings whatever, Let's move on. But the fact that making

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<v Speaker 2>me out to making me out that I left because

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<v Speaker 2>of the stupid promo, like if I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the promo, I would have stayed, well, wouldn't I?

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<v Speaker 2>And on top of it went you're in it that

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to be doing red flags and green flags.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro's cringe. Azz I didn't care about that. If anything,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything, no one want to know now, I did

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<v Speaker 2>myself a world of favors leaving that promo.

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<v Speaker 1>So I first seen you, well, first thing i've seen

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<v Speaker 1>you about in the experiment. Never spoke to you because

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<v Speaker 1>I was crashing film and I was told to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week I was in Melbourne. I see Athena leaves

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<v Speaker 1>the girls little Valentine's lunch. You rock up in a

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<v Speaker 1>car and you don't get out the cars a great

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<v Speaker 1>You don't give her a hug, you don't fucking give

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<v Speaker 1>her any romance and Valentine's Day, you dangle one shitty

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<v Speaker 1>single rows out the car window to her as she

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<v Speaker 1>then struggles in the back next to a car seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, listen, Billy thought he was blindsided. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know you were there. If I knew you,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have got a forty five roses jumped out

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<v Speaker 2>of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you the you two then drove off and

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<v Speaker 1>then you went to like a football game or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you then took the rose back of her because you

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<v Speaker 1>filmed the TikTok given her the same rose again, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's fake. You fake that just for social media cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>No it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fake.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought it the rose, so it can't be fake.

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<v Speaker 1>But you faked given earth so you can film it

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend you're still together.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave it to it and all together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I seen you grabbing that girl's ass go video

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<v Speaker 1>every week?

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<v Speaker 2>When was that? No one's fact checked that when the

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<v Speaker 2>time I did check it? Did you?

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<v Speaker 1>When you send an iPhone video, it's got a time

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<v Speaker 1>stump on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, does it short?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? I did a whole podcast. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't say sorry about into your shitty podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My shitty podcast like it. But the rose, so you

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<v Speaker 1>admit like that was staged?

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<v Speaker 2>Then? No, I gave her the rose, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>thought it'd be cue to do a video and you

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<v Speaker 2>know who said we're not together? And it was a

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<v Speaker 2>cute video and now we've got that. We got that

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<v Speaker 2>from memories.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's a cute video. But to me that

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<v Speaker 1>you starting this kind of pisopin to pretend you're still

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<v Speaker 1>together because you're getting so much hate, so much backlash

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<v Speaker 1>that if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate, I haven't noticed any Bro, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Just go on my page. Did you see yesterday I

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<v Speaker 1>made a video of deleting you out of every picture.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that I did. Man, listen, hots off, Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>that was pretty funny. Yeah, I mean it's a shame

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<v Speaker 2>we can't do in real life. Yeah, interest No, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, bro, even hating that you can't even care

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<v Speaker 2>like reality is. Man, you asked the people on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>who's one of your favorite people in the show, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee most people will say me because I'm genuine, Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>And have you actually ask people that?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? People like, oh, you're confident dude. Bro, anyone watching

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<v Speaker 2>this take notes you should be a confident person. You

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<v Speaker 2>should love yourself more than anyone else, and to love

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<v Speaker 2>someone else you got to love yourself first, bro. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I view And people are like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>listening to that. I am, But you love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yourself more than you could have loved the fener.

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<v Speaker 2>Than man got the best loving bro.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you admit now that was cruel to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll never love your child as much as I

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<v Speaker 1>could love my own?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I admit that was wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>No? It savage?

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was the truth. But man, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, reality is, how do you know unless you're

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation? So you can't say if someone goes,

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<v Speaker 2>can you run to? Any case? You never have you go?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. She still try.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely there was a nicer way to deliver that MW.

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<v Speaker 2>I delivered five hundred ways. They just clipped the one

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<v Speaker 2>they thought they thought was gonna be the most impactful,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did and clearly worked. Yeah, listen, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>up until the now, even our biggest problem was us

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<v Speaker 2>living in different states. It's not the kid, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, she should have been much Rebilia. Then he's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice guy. She's a nice girl, both living puff

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<v Speaker 1>happy days. Yeah, bro, listen, you're dipping it in Sierra,

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<v Speaker 1>so there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>And trust me, you know that was that. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you can thank the experts for that. Man. They

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<v Speaker 2>pair it up. They paid us up for a reason, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>and clearly it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it doesn't because you're not with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who else is together? Who else is even?

0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Who else is even friends? Who else have you seen

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<v Speaker 2>together from the experiment minus the ones that have lasted together?

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<v Speaker 2>And if that doesn't speak olumes and.

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<v Speaker 1>I seen Marie and Jeff. He dropped out that Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>fingers out and give her a kiss. They're legit together.

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<v Speaker 1>He kissed her with up me with realizing I was

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<v Speaker 1>there and like you realize that for a rosa in our.

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<v Speaker 2>Core feend right now and watch come on then pick

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<v Speaker 2>up there. What's your name again, Bro, It's Josh. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure if you speaks up? Thanks man?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Well yeah, well, so as was the relationships going

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<v Speaker 1>strong present day?

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<v Speaker 2>It was last night, me and a feeling. We definitely

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<v Speaker 2>have an ups and downs man, Like that was a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>We definitely were one of the strongest couples there even

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<v Speaker 2>now we are, man not straight out like I said

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<v Speaker 2>before on another podcast, like the most anno anything watching

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<v Speaker 2>our time back is that people wondering, like, as a

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<v Speaker 2>single mom away from her child spending time with that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the most annoying thing. Watching backward was like, man,

0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:10.359
<v Speaker 2>she's a strong woman, she's a loving mom. If there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing there, she would have packed up and left

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<v Speaker 2>well and truly by now. So watching that back, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the hardest thing. Watching the back is like, come on,

0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.359
<v Speaker 2>you can show our good moments. And even now we

0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.760
<v Speaker 2>asked the other couples, who was one of the strongest couples.

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<v Speaker 2>People say us, But then here for the drama on

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV, and obviously we're giving it to production and

0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 2>then they're just choosing that. But man, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>know the last how the last half go, whether they

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<v Speaker 2>play it the way it does you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we Yeah, no spoilers, but I think things will turn around.

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<v Speaker 1>Already another spoiler. You're not together?

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<v Speaker 2>They do we get together to the end. Maybe we're

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<v Speaker 2>having some time apart. Maybe maybe we're on a rough

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<v Speaker 2>stage right now, and maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>You're faking it by throwing roads. Is that I will

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I appreciate the fact you came onto the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to apologize for making fun of

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<v Speaker 1>you because I'm going to continue to do it.

0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 2>No, man, you're on my next hist too. So I

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<v Speaker 2>roasted Abby. I arroasted the other dude. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who his name goingyrows and eyelashes and who's that? That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>who's that? Bro? No reality TV reviews, so he knows

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no eyebrows? Fuck man, that guy's got ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and sitting there they're calling people for their looks. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, bro, see on what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't actually agree with like making fun of

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<v Speaker 1>people's looks, and like, I think you can have fun

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<v Speaker 1>by going along with the storylines like yesterday deleting you

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<v Speaker 1>from the promise to me that was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing, man, Man, I would say that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I laugh, Bro, it's funny. It generally is funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't take anything serious like this is media. Man. You

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<v Speaker 2>got a job. You're doing your job, like you he

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<v Speaker 2>need to get cliques. How you get paid perhaps off

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<v Speaker 2>sam as a production people see then cry, oh they

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<v Speaker 2>made me look like a bad edit. Bro. You signed

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<v Speaker 2>up to go on that show. You signed your life

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<v Speaker 2>aways and you can make me look however you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, say, media do it. It doesn't bother

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<v Speaker 2>your like. It's more like the people like you do

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<v Speaker 2>this and do that, like it's like, bro, who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with my platform as well, I will always

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<v Speaker 1>give someone a chance. I will roast you happily. I

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<v Speaker 1>would give my opinion on the storylines. But like as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I messaged you a few weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you're here, and I'm happy to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because to me, if I didn't welcome you on, then

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<v Speaker 1>I feel as bad as the producers.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm doing my own narrative. I I give you

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<v Speaker 2>the chance and respect, bro, and honestly, don't stop roasting me.

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<v Speaker 2>But one question, can you understand me better in person

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<v Speaker 2>than you do on TV?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>So what was that fair?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Okay, do you want to get up my studio?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's my studio now, Bro, It's that's funny. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually funny because I'm sitting in here.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the laughing you're not with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's probably not wrong. Fuck you know anyways, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>nice to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's gone, Ah fuck, how did that go? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know? Padro says it went all right because

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<v Speaker 1>he was listening. But I feel like I could have.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have gone harder, I could have been more aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, that's awesome, it's it's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have just felt disingenuous and fake and like I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing it just for the sake of doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I think I held my

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<v Speaker 1>own I don't know. You guys can be the judge,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I just as I said, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>confrontation and things like that. But yeah, thanks for listening. Fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what to say

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I'm just like that was also unexpected. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so not prepared. It happened so fast. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>has my opinion of him changed, Not really, so yeah,