WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 8 August 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.160 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.119 Thank you so much, Harry, thank you very much for 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.760 watching Noes Brooks No Lefties is the plan for tonight. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:12.680 If you want to join us, you can always send 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.600 me an email words gudies dot com, dot you, or 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.240 enjoy the groove on the couch that you have right now. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:23.000 Does the name Jack Carlson mean anything to you, Well, 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:24.919 let me try to jog your memory with a photo 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:25.720 of Jack. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.280 This was only taken this year. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.639 Now, if Jack doesn't automatically come to mind, perhaps you've 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.760 seen a representation of his most prominent moment when he 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.760 was arrested in Queensland decades ago. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.280 You may have send the. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:47.800 T shirts about Democracy manifest Well, it all comes to 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.160 this moment of television news footage from way back when 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.600 when Australia was a lot more fun and Queensland was 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:59.000 frankly a lot more fun too. Now, Jack was a 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:03.440 man who has had some alleged petty crimes that he 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.480 had committed in his life. Well, the story is that 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.680 the man behind the footage you've just seen Jack passed away. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.759 In the past couple of days, the internet has gone 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.840 wild because it's an opportunity to relive this moment of 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.360 which I'm talking about. Now, if all of this is 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.160 a bit of a garbled mystery to you, then let 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.520 me educate you about why the passing of Jack Carlson 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.440 is something that is popping up on many of your 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:32.199 social media feeds. He was eating a Chinese meal when 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.000 police went into the Chinese restaurant in Brisbane in the 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.960 Fortitude Valley. He was then put in the back of 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.720 a car. What happens between the restaurant and being put 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.160 in the back of the car is a bloke who 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.000 was laying it on with a trail quite theatrical and 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.960 hamming it up from the cameras, and the footage, once 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.320 resurfaced about fifteen years ago, became an Internet sensation. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.200 Behold Australia as it used to be. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.880 Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.680 Have a look at the headlock. See that chap over 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.640 the head. This is the bok who got me on 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:11.640 the penis before. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.399 See why people like this and they watched it over 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.519 and over and over millions of times, both. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:20.640 Here and around the world. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.720 Now the next bit is what he became equally famous for, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.359 which was not just conversation about democracy manifest like I'm 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.480 sort of over the top any community theater performer. But 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.280 it was the next bit about the Chinese meal that 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.119 also sticks with people to this day. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.280 Well, what the reason? What is the charge eating a meal? 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:51.360 A succulent Chinese meal. Oh that's nice. Headlocks up, Yes, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:52.440 I see that. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:53.560 You know your judo. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:59.680 Well, look, I know there are more serious things, and 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.600 there was that this was nothing to do with the 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.120 serious crime. In fact, the belief was that he was 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.520 actually falsely arrested. But he's made an awful lot of 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.320 attention out of all of this. Again, now he hasn't 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.040 made any of the money, or he didn't make any 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.079 of the money about all of the noise around him. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.960 But of course I think he kind of enjoyed the 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.639 hamming up. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:16.160 Well. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.560 Channel seven and the reporter Chris Reason, Yes, that famous 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.560 one of Lindt Cafe siege fame. Well, he used to 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.040 be a reporter in Brisbane when he was a junior reporter. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.040 He was the one who reported on this story. So 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.760 decades later, earlier this year, as Jack was pretty cooked 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.240 with cancer, they all got together. I'm talking about the police, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.640 I'm talking about Jack and the reporter where the record 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.640 was set straight about this somewhat famous internet video. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.520 So you accuse me of grabbing him by the penis, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.640 and I said, I didn't grab you by the He 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.040 said no, I just made that up. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.840 A bit of fun to start tonight's program. Jack Carson 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.880 sadly passing away. But the video that will live Forever 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.640 reminds us of a different time where I don't know 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.040 what was going on apart from the arrest, but the 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:08.680 arrest itself was hammy and will live forever. Enjoy a 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:14.040 succulent Chinese meal. Now still in Queensland, but something way 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.560 more serious. As we know, the union movement is very 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.760 powerful all around the country when it comes to its 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:20.640 control over. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.279 The Labor Party. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:26.240 It is particularly the case in Queensland now, so much 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.279 so that May Day May the First, which of course 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.520 is all about the eight hour working week and basically 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.360 sort of a union based public holiday, is one that 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.080 is still marked in Queensland when it is not marked 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.680 in other parts of the country. The then Prime Minister 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.640 and then Premier marching in the lead up to the 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.720 twenty twenty two election, showing without fear that they were, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.440 as they say, union strong. But there is one union 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:56.760 in particular that has an awful lot of power in Queensland. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.280 It is called the United Workers' Union. Its boss is 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:07.600 a man called Gary Bullock. Now, this faction of inside 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.640 the Labor Party is wildly strong, as the Financial Review 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.120 said when it did a profile of this man, connected 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.360 to the union power and connected to so many MPs 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.800 en ornament, you peril the man who runs Queensland. An 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.719 actual fact, for way longer than she should have been premier. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.920 One of the reasons why Anastasia Paliche held on of 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.080 the job was because she was kept in power by 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:34.479 the very union boss who I'm talking about tonight. Of 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.159 course she is no longer the premier because the union 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.920 saw what was coming, which was an almost inevitable loss 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.280 under her, so they rolled the dice unto what now 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:47.920 seems yet again an inevitable loss under Giggles Miles. So 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.760 that's the union, that's its connection to the Labor Party, 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.040 and the person in charge of the union is a 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:59.039 singularly important figure in Queensland politics. So there was a 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:04.400 very interesting that dropped today surrounding the building that the 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:09.720 union is in now. According to the Australian newspaper, they 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.120 had an exclusive story this morning was that Gary Bullocks 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:19.240 United Workers Union secretly recorded conversations in its Brisbane offices. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.080 Now there's a lot of detail but not specificity here. 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.760 They are a union with deep, deep pockets and no 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.920 doubt its boss would be more than willing to take 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:31.960 a swipe at people like Sky News. So I am 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.039 not suggesting anything other than what has been in the 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.440 press today. But it's going to be a sticky story 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.400 because the union is so powerful and many of the 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.040 MPs come in and out of the offices because they 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.480 want to, for want of a term, politically speaking, kiss 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.080 the ring well, the United Workers Union was recording conversations 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.320 twenty four hours a day throughout a network of closed 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:56.400 circuit television cameras installed inside and outside of its Peel 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:02.200 Street Brisbane office in South Bank. The story continues, headed 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.320 by mister Bullock, a member of the ALP National Executive. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.200 The union has claimed it was an error by contractors 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:13.080 that led to an upgrade of CCTV devices to include 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:18.080 recording audio as well as video. The officers of the 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:22.600 powerful union, which includes mister Miles and several cabinet ministers 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.040 as its members, has been the purported location of high 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:30.040 level political discussions with government ministers, labour MPs and other 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:36.720 unions over the years of the nineteen member cabinet in Queensland. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:42.680 Twelve twelve ministers belong to mister Bullock's left or are 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:50.440 card carrying members of that YOUWU. So the idea of 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.320 conversations being recorded inside and outside of the office, well, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.720 it has some interesting potential implications here, but I need 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:03.160 to be very clear, says nobody has ever listened to 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.200 any of the tapes via the couriermal today. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.960 According to the union, the error in its. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.720 CCTV devices recorded both audio and video, stem from a 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.520 contractor's upgrade of its system, and the issue has since 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.880 been rectified. In a statement, mister Bullock revealed that the 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.960 union had installed cameras through the office for many years 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:29.239 to ensure the safety of staff. None of those cameras 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:34.079 had audio capacity until they replaced twelve to eighteen months ago. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.320 Now all of this is in relation to a workplace 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.760 dispute about somebody who used to work at the union. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.760 The union is doing everything it can to avoid what 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.040 tapes they may or may not have being handed over 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:46.560 to the court. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.800 If they ever do, we will most certainly tell you 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:50.600 what is on. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.720 Them something else that you may will or not heard. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.920 Thus far this evening was the Yes campaign, as we 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.520 remember last year in the referendum, well first under the 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.360 Prime Minister's tutel edge, it went from sixty percent Yes 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:04.880 to sixty percent No. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.880 But you know he's a political genius. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.720 But also we know that the money was will and 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.280 truly on the side of the team that ended up 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.319 getting forty percent of the vote, as The Guardian ended 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.000 up reporting Yes campaign groups received more than five times 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.839 as much in donations as the NOD side in the 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.280 Voice referendum. So ultimately, of course, money did not matter. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.800 People powermattered, and people made up their own mind no 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.839 matter what the ads told them or what type of 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:34.400 ad was before them. Now at the time, the erstwhile 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.640 fact checkers that are happy to pounce upon what they 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.440 believed to be misinformation at any one time, well, they 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.480 of course, very proudly and loudly screamed that no, the 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:48.040 federal governanent is not bankrolling the Yes campaign, and that's true. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.079 But there's something on the edges here that is obviously 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.200 not of the Federal government's knowledge, not of the Minister, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.199 the Prime Minister or anyone in the federal government's knowledge. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:03.120 But it does seem like payer funds found their way 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:09.480 to the Yes campaign. For this, we turned to Tasmania 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.320 and a report which came today from the Order to 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.079 General in Tasmania. Now the Order to General, who has 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.400 just been recently appointed to a ten year term, is 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.000 of course somebody who goes back and is essentially independent 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.320 of government and is like an umpire reporting back on 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.160 what they do or don't do. The report, which was 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.040 published today was into a thing called the Tasmanian Community Fund. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.719 As the ABC reports today, the Tasmanian Community Fund gave 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.720 five hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars grant of public 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.400 funds i e. Taxpayer funds which were meant to be 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.160 spent by the Tasmanian Community Fund on the business of 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.679 the Tasmanian Community Fund. Instead, somebody decided in there to 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.640 send more than half a million dollars of taxpayer money 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.600 off to the people essentially running the Yes campaign. An 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.000 organization that campaigned for the Yes vote in the UN 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.160 referendum received a five hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:07.960 publicly funded grant, but the process lacked documentation and was flawed. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.240 According to the report released today, the board of the 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:15.640 Tasmanian Community Fund agreed to give the grant to the 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:21.240 Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition in June of last year. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.680 During the campaign, the report found that they used the 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.160 money one hundred and twenty thousand dollars of it for 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:34.160 a national cross media campaign including television advertisements, social media posts, opinion. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.000 Pieces why did they have to be paid for? But anyway? 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:38.160 And media releases. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.800 And for the fifty one thousand dollars of the more 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.360 than half a million dollars in taxpayer money that was 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.280 meant to be for businesses sorry for their activities in 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.320 and around Tasmania, of course goes off to the national 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.760 Yes effort. It also found that the grant was used 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:59.200 for information about the referendum, including workshops and promotional material 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.080 in libraries, while one hundred thousand dollars of the five 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:07.000 hundred thousand dollars was unused. Now in their defense, the 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.240 Community organization says, we weren't given due process in this 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.920 Auditor General's report. We have a defense fall of this, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.720 but it wasn't entered into buy the Auditor General. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.280 But What a fascinating little side note. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.600 What was it about the Tasmanian Order, A general who 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.600 decided I'm going to go and find where this group 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.839 spent its money. Where the complaint, of course, came from 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.240 somebody who was supporting the no campaign. It's a Liberal 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:37.840 Party senator from Tasmania. Now I assume, and we have 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.920 to assume, because we think the best of people, that this. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:40.720 Is the worst of it. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.040 The potentially half a billion dollar, half a billion, half 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.640 a million dollars of taxpayer money that was supposed to 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.280 go for something else was rerouted to one side of 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.400 a referendum that the fact checkers say, of course was 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.840 not being publicly supported with taxpayer funds. Well, of course 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.719 it wasn't happening officially. But is anyone anywhere are going 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.640 to ask the question about did this happen anywhere else? 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:05.640 Now? 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.800 I don't know, but so often in this country, of course, 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.400 something happens as long as nobody sees it while it's happening, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.839 then of course there is no interest in looking into 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.000 what really happened. For example, federal government absolute lack of 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.440 interest at a proper COVID inquiry, a Royal commission to 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.440 guarantee to make sure that the failures of the states 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.160 would be exposed, not just the political blame game of 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.640 the former federal government, which of course is what they're 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.960 currently looking into. A royal commission that would ensure that 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.920 the absolute policy of this country is yet, don't cancel 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.959 school days unless there is literally something like a natural 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.719 disaster that is bearing down on the school, to make 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.280 sure that people don't die alone. But of course, because 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.160 there is very little accountability these days, the people who 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.280 made all of those terrible decisions, like Dennie Andrews, get 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.000 to walk off and get a little gold medal. No 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:59.960 further questions, pension forever. Well, is anyone else going to 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.200 have a look at other community groups? Is anyone else 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.280 going to, like a fine tooth going go back through 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:10.520 the Australian Electoral Commission declarations about where the money came from? 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.640 Because I hope this is the one and single example. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.920 But it's a pretty big one. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.280 Meantime, greatest Prime Minister of all time in his mates, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.080 they have a new way of being able, of course, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:26.920 to dismiss any argument that exposes the flaw in their argument. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.880 Misinformation misinformation, misinformation. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.880 The misinformation which is there so misinformation. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.560 So much so that they of course seek to censor 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.560 the Internet by finding social media companies literally millions of 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:46.240 dollars if they don't take down the misinformation. Misinformation will 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.360 of course be defined by bureaucrats that will be informed 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.520 by left wing fact checkers. Well, as we told you 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.840 last night, the Prime Minister was involved in a little 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.240 bit of misinformation still up by the way on his 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.400 social media account, so therefore technically that social media account 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.400 would be on the wrong side of his potential misinformation laws. 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:13.200 Was this compilation CD that's meant to represent the one 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.600 that teenagers listened to in the late nineties early two 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.880 thousand's called so Fresh, with a list of compilations about 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.600 how they're helping when it comes to cost of living, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.560 because you see, they're so helpful. Well, as you may 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:31.120 will have heard by now that thankfully that misinformation has 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.480 been dubbed in and according to skytes dot com that 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.880 I used today, they were able to work out that 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.320 the social media companies have now started to put some 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.080 asterisks underneath what was meant to be just a playful 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.800 little joke where many of the things are listed as 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.080 being so helpful in twenty twenty four, don't actually kick 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:56.160 in until sometimes twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, and 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.080 then of course not even until later parts of twenty 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.760 and twenty four. Nothing to see here, right. Incidentally, as well, 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.320 we learned today that you know how we're paying three 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.680 hundred dollars off the power bills of every household in 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.960 the country. All of that business, well, that system hasn't 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.120 even started yet. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:15.080 Now. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.680 Of course that was the first of July. That was 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.000 all supposed to happen. It is now the start of August. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.160 It hasn't happened. Why because apparently a couple of state 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.200 governments have not already signed off on the project. So 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:29.800 presumably it keeps being extended, that the twelve months starts 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.520 from the moment it begins, or they just aren't going 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.880 to spend last months. But of course no one would 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.160 be interested in any of that, because it's all Peter Dutton. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.400 That's the problem, the problem, the problem. But as we 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.840 have shown you using the data, and yes, putting a 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.880 very strong opinion on top of the data after we 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.280 show you, but the data is clear that regardless of 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.120 whether it is left right or center opinion polling in 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.760 this country is very clear. More people disapprove of the 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.120 Prime Minister's job and the job that he is doing 0:16:55.400 --> 0:17:01.080 than people whom approve. Newspole essential of all of them 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.200 are in negative territory, meaning the number of people that 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.360 disapprove is higher than the number of people who approve. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.560 So the crisis flare has gone up from the Prime 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.920 Minister's communications office in the same way that they were 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:20.080 preparing to disseminate information that their dirt unit on Peter Dutton. Well, 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:22.800 the message has gone out we're in a little bit 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.240 of trouble here. So plenty of people, particularly the Channel 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.560 nine newspapers are offering free advice about how the government 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.720 can save itself from itself, like as we showed you 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:33.920 last week. N asked Nicky Sava, who was out there 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.320 saying that despite all of the achievements of rate rise 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.439 would almost bury Albanezy. Well, as we know that we 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.119 know rate cut until at least six months, and the 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.720 Reserve Bank still says today that they are more likely 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:46.480 to go up. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.119 Than come down. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.679 Meantime, the same organization this time says if this government 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.879 is forgettable, the one thing that they're canning on you 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:57.520 is to remember the last one. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.240 We mentioned this a little. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.840 While ago, and then there is today, complete with the 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.080 image of a prime minister who is very close to 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:08.800 being underwater. Now he's already underwater in their own polling. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.159 He is underwater. What that means is that your disapproval 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.679 rating is higher than your approval rating. But we couldn't 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.920 dare show him underwater with just his hands above because 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.520 that would denote panic. Well again, one of the friendly 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.120 faces and friendly voices are offering some free advice about 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.960 how the Prime minister can save the. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.359 Government from itself. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.119 Anthony Aberaneesi has finally woken up to the reality that 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.400 it needs to change and fast. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:37.359 Now I don't see any evidence of this. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:42.120 Literally today he was gas lighting and lying about spending 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.119 and inflation on these very ways. What under Peter Stefanovic 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.800 for not letting him do so this morning. But let's 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.040 get back to what apparently is the changed prime Minister, 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.080 which will miraculously be more approved of than currently disapproved 0:18:55.080 --> 0:19:00.560 of as Prime Minister, Albanezi has been on the endangered 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.520 list for a while. Now it was this interesting, they 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.480 would all have told you there's nothing to see here, 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.800 kind of like the same logic of a media who 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.960 told you that Albo's completely okay, Harris is completely rock 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.400 solid mentally and knows what she's talking about. And her 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.440 new vice president, of course, isn't a lunatic. You know, 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.360 all of these people, they just they would never lie 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.879 to you for the narrative, would they. As the Prime Minister, 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.680 Albernizi has been on the endangered list for a while, 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.960 the reasons can be outlined bristly. 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:31.800 Now. Of course, all of these are the things that 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:33.120 we've been talking about all the way through. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:38.200 But of course that's all nasty conspiracy theories, untruths spoken 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.880 on the airwaves of Sky News in primetime. But guess 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.879 what they're facts. The Long Voice referendum campaign left an 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.120 increasing number of voters disillusioned with Alberuzi and his government. Now, 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.400 so disillusion of course, he's trying to pretend that that's 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.760 of the left, that it's the left wingers who were 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.399 upset because it didn't happen, But of course it was 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:59.119 sixty forty rejection of the prime minister's position. So disillusion 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.040 does not mean what I think this bloke thinks it means. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.000 He also says here that he seemed to be removed 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:07.600 from the chief concern about cost of living. 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.000 Jeez, who's the bloke who's banged on about cost. 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:15.480 Of living every night since this bloke became Prime minister. 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:17.400 Every night. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.520 Who held them to account on their first budget, their 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.720 second budget, their mini budget. Who told you about the 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.399 fifteen hundred dollars they took off you at the height. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:27.480 Of the cost of living situation. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:31.320 Who called the two little too late tax cuts exactly 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.600 what they are and that they would have no political consequences. 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:38.040 Well, the other guy continues. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.160 In the past two weeks, Albanezi has taken a few 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:43.320 small steps aimed at saving the government's skin. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.480 The Republic portfolio was ditched. Oh, that's going to save him. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:49.680 He's also signaled in the wake of the Voice defeat 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:51.639 that he's pushed off consideration of big ticket action on 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.600 reconciliation with First Nations people into the future. 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:56.080 Now I get it. 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.120 Those that are easily pleased think that the Australian public 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:04.080 will even notice those things as it was, as it 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.600 will be. Cost of living and the economy is at 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.679 the absolute heart of Australian politics. It is boring for 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.200 people in the press gallery to talk about because for them, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:14.879 while they live in the real world. Of course, like 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:19.320 everyone else, it's not as interesting as the internal palace intrigue. 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.800 It's not as much fun as dredging up former Liberal 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:29.040 leaders to hang dirt on Peter Dutton. But of course 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.320 the reality is that cost. 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:33.920 Of living is the number one concern for Australians. 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.080 Things have got demonstrably worse than when this mob promised 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.639 it would get better. And while the teals not moving 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.760 and no data proving it shows that the change of 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:45.080 government is unlikely. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:46.920 If the Prime. 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.359 Minister continues to have a greater disapproval than approval rating, 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.320 if the polls keep telling us that more than half 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.600 of the country things that we're headed in the wrong direction, 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.879 who knows what's going to happen at this next election, 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.720 no matter how much free advice they get from their 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:08.400 own cheer squads. Now, the reality of life since September 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.880 eleventh in particular, and then the Barling bombings not too 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:15.840 long after, is that whenever you're in a crowd, you 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.879 know there's a lot more security than there used to 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.960 be before both of those events. There's also a little 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.000 fear that some people have from time to time when 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.520 they are in these big crowds about what might happen. 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.560 It's something terrible going to take place here and a 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.160 lot of people are going to get hurt. Now, thankfully 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.359 this has not happened. That, of course, had happened a 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.920 few years ago, I think twenty seventeen at an Arianda 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:42.960 Grande concert in Manchester in England. But as you know, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.760 the Taylor Swift phenomena is one that if there's not 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.000 a young person in your life, you may not be 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.560 completely across, but you may well, of course know that 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.200 you was the Time Woman of the Year in part 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.359 because of con her place in the culture, which of 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.840 course is sky high where people of all ages, all sexes, 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:01.720 all genders, all the rest of it all races that 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.520 Lava absolutely LoVa well. 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.639 She's currently touring around in Europe. 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.679 She was in Austria and amazingly her concerts which are 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.120 just as anticipated in Austria as they were in Australia, 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:20.320 just as loved as she is in America. There are 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:22.800 a whole bunch of little girls, their moms and their 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.080 mates who weren't able to go to those concerts in 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:30.119 the past few days because Islamic State was planning to 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:34.200 kill people at those events. He's a bit more information 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:38.000 coming to us from the United States, specifically CBS. 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:42.480 Police say two suspects who radicalize themselves on the internet 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.800 are now in custody. One of them swore allegiance to 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.520 Isis then carried out concrete preparatory acts for a terrorist attack. 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.679 The bomb squad was called after police saidie found the 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:58.840 suspects in possession of chemical substances. A catastrophe averted that 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.680 all three concerts had been canceled as a precaution. 0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.480 Frightening, absolutely frightening. 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:07.800 Now, of course, we should never let the terrorist wings, 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.240 which means we don't just recede from the public. But 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.119 it is yet again a reminder to us about how 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:15.640 the police have to get it right one hundred percent 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.320 of the time. Thankfully they did in this case. But 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.760 when officials tell us that there is a raised terror thread, 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.080 there must be something behind it. We must heed when 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.399 they say it. And also the vigilance that has frankly 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.240 slipped away in the past twenty years or so needs 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:35.399 to come back. Your awareness of the space around you 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.640 will help save the lives of people around you. Always 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.199 keep an eye not just for the shifty person, but 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.560 for the bag that's been left by itself, the door 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.240 that's open that shouldn't. 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.160 Be, all of those things. Remain vigilant. 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.399 Take care of yourself because the people whose job it 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:53.439 is full time to take care of us will they 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.720 do an incredible job and they get it right so often, 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.600 so well, Dounder all of the police. But what a 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.320 reminder about what we take for granted that we should 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:06.920 never take for granted, which of course is our own safety. Now, 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.360 as the Olympics wrap up and many more people will 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.920 join us back here each and every night, Remember we'll 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.000 be here Sunday night to Thursday, same bat time and 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.280 same bat channel. Videos are still doing pretty well. It's 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.520 goings dot com dot au. Australia has had an incredible 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.440 Olympic Games. As you know, it's the best we've ever done. 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.520 It's incredible that every night there's not just one, but 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.000 probably a couple of medals that have won. At any time, 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.280 it doesn't matter what type of sport it is, there's 0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:34.920 always this incredible little story that comes out of somewhere. 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.560 And I've got to say, I know I might well 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.520 be speaking just a little bit too soon, but hasn't 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.919 it been amazing for the best part of two weeks 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.520 to see people wrapped in the Australian flag and not one, 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.280 not one hot take anywhere about Jess. I wish there 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.920 was a different flow that were holding up just pride, 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.840 pride in their country, pride in their national flag, the 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.600 use of the national flag as the thing that represents 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:02.160 your country with the loved it, loved watching that, and 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.119 like everyone else, I've also loved watching sort of some 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.280 of the kookier sports. Of course, gold medals have come 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:13.800 from things like BMX Australian gold medals, not yet from 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.679 things like speed climbing, but if you ever get the 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.680 chance to have a look at that, wow, Literally they 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.560 climb up a wall and they do so within less 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.760 than five seconds. But then there's a whole bunch of 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.040 other sports which have been new to the Olympic games 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:30.040 like golf for three on three basketball or of course 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.840 full normal basketball and football has been. 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:33.879 In the Olympics for a while. 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.000 But I've got to say, while people are searching for 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:37.840 their hot takes, and again I might have spoken too 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:41.359 soon about how while it's been an incredible games, wouldn't 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.160 it have been a better grames if they weren't green 0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.840 and gold, and they weren't looking at the evil Australian 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.879 flat in all that crap. I've got to say this 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:53.080 a bit of a DeBie down trying to find a 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.400 way to say something about the Games that was negative 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.159 when for obvious reasons, lots of people watch, lots of 0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.440 people are interested in. We're loving the idea of how 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:01.919 much pride we all get from this little moment. It's 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.240 nice to have a collective experience. It's not about politics 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:05.679 and identity and all the rest of it. It's just 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.920 about yeay, cool, go Australia. Well, save the games for 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.440 the sports whose zenith is the Olympics. Was an opinion 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.120 piece which popped up in the past couple of days. 0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.360 What simply this person thinks there's too many. 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:22.240 Sports at the Olympic Games and things like tennis and 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.199 golf and even football should not be part of the 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:29.160 Olympic Games. Why because they've got their own global tournaments 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.000 that are massive. Tennis players dream of winning a Grand Slam, 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.280 golfers dream of winning a green jacket, not a gold medal. 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.880 Cricketing nations, it's the ashes for everyone else, of course, 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.920 it's the fief of football World Cup by that men's 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:41.640 or women's. 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.040 Isn't that what the Olympics are all about. He goes 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:45.800 on to say that. 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.919 Singular determination of striving for gold paying off on the 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.960 world stage, that's the stuff. 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.040 That dreams is made of. No no, no, no, no, no 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:54.440 no no. 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.480 I'll tell you why this hot takes wrong because so 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:07.360 often golfers, footballers, lots of people, like tennis players, they 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.159 represent themselves. Yes, technically they're from a certain country, but 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.240 they represent themselves. 0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:14.880 Anyone needs to. 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.760 See the reaction of Novak Djokovic to his gold medal 0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.880 where he was able to win one for his country 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.240 to be no different in terms of the hierarchy of 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:31.000 athletes representing their country than everyone else in judo or swimming, and. 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.359 It's nice to be on that level. 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.239 Well, the professional athlete is able to go back in 0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.399 five star treatment and not have to sleep on the 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.080 cardboard beds, all of that business. 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.440 So the Olympics are fine as they are. I love 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:43.640 when they add sports. 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.959 I wouldn't be surprised if eventually sports like boxing slowly 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.520 disappear for absolutely non controversial reasons, which may well play 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.080 it in the next few days in the medal tally, 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.400 but by the time we get to Brisbane twenty thirty two. 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.960 I've got to say these two weeks slightly change my 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.000 attitude towards the ex excitement of what may be lying ahead. 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:07.120 More sports, not less, more chances at gold, more chances 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.240 of representation, and more opportunities for people to wear their 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.280 national flag and be at one with their teammates as 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:19.520 well as their country plays. When it comes to the 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.920 American political system, A couple of very good friends sent 0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:23.680 me a message after watching the show over the past 0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.880 couple of days, saying, hey, well, what are you going about. 0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.120 Trump's still winning? Let me explain why they turned around. 0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.320 They explained why, and now I'd like to explain. 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.720 To you now, as we know, the current media narrative. 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.680 Is Kamala Harris through the roof every pole going her way, 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:39.080 many of those national poles. 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:40.560 You know how irrelevant those are. 0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.760 Oh, this new vice presidential pick, he's going to scare everywhere. 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:45.479 It's all falling apart. 0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.000 In fact, that's the narrative, which, surprise, surprise, the same 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.080 people who said nothing to see here on so many 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:52.680 other issues and now telling. 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.080 You look, look, look, look, look look. 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.280 But of course they're not even answering questions about what 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:58.640 the hell would they do if they won. 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:05.760 Trump is getting his unsettled by this change in the environment. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.480 You could see it in his tweets and sign and 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.920 there is a kind of grinding quality to the Trump 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.840 campaign rate now that plays very badly against what you 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.320 saw to Nate, which was very joyful and positive, and 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.800 there was this feeling of possibility. 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.280 All right, Spinspinspincent's been narrative, narrative, narrative. 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.640 Let's look at some numbers. Are these the numbers that 0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.400 will forever be there? No, But for those people that 0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.160 are feeling a little bit wobbly, this is the stuff 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.720 that reassured me as a person who would not like 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.000 to see the Democrats get four more years to be 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.560 rewarded for their failures on the border. Ten minion extra 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.600 people moving into the United States without the paperwork, no 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.680 right to do so, not to mention the economy that 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.200 has caused so much trouble for such a long period 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.320 of time. And of course they should pay a punishment 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:55.760 for the lies they said about the competency of Biden. Now, 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.080 supposedly this vice presidential pick is the one who's going 0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.440 to be able to sort of speak Republican. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.200 To mind meld with Middle America. 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.200 The only problem is, of course he is a hardcore 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.320 lefty who just dresses and acts like a folks see 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.560 middle of the road person, but the actual policies put 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.160 in place are as wild as you would see in 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.040 New York or in California. He's also one of these 0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.360 people that once you point out the falls, well he 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.600 of course changed the subject or pretends that you're starting 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.680 a culture war. Well, actually, if you have a look 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.880 at his voting, at the people who vote for him 0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:32.320 that made him governor basically the numbers that have for 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.440 him are basically no different than every other Democrat. In 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.400 the cities, they love you, in the suburbs, and further 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:39.800 out they can't stand you. 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.400 Tim was one in twenty twenty two, obviously, but he 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.840 didn't show any new strength in the parts of Minnesota 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.240 where the Democrats have really fallen behind in the Trump area. 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:54.840 And if you're talking about boosting the Democrats in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.480 you're talking about can you do something in those parts 0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.800 of those states where the Democrats have been losing all 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.000 that ground? Looking at what was that in Minnesota, you 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:04.280 don't see that value. 0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:09.320 Add you mean he's exactly the same, exactly the same 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:13.360 as Kamala or Hillary or Biden, or you get the point. 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:17.160 Or they're all the same. Right, Some win, some don't. 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:21.200 But there's no great wild support in the Trump world 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.080 that will magically flip because this guy, you know, went 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.440 hunting once. Please, I'll do the stolen Valle thing in 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.719 a few days time. But of course, as you know, 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.320 we like to show you the map. You need to 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.640 get to two hundred and seventy electoral votes to win 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:37.360 the presidency. Currently the swing states put it, but the 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.720 Republicans very close, needing just nineteen votes to get there 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.520 at two fifty one, the Democrats needing an awful lot. 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.920 More So, let's have a look at the swing state poles. 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.600 Forget the Harris is up by one, Harris's up by 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.920 two Nationally in the swing states, what would happen. Trump's 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:59.440 up in Arizona, Nevada, He's up in North Carolina, Georgia, 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.080 Harris up in Wisconsin and Michigan. And in the state 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:07.040 that will decide it all, Pennsylvania. Right now to night, 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:11.200 latest polls that have come out since the change since 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.640 August ticked over. Trump is up by one point eight. 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.160 So if there was an election held right now, he 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.560 would win, and he'd have seventeen extra votes in the 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.960 Electortot College, you would actually end up at two hundred 0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.960 and eighty seven. One of the reasons why you may 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:29.960 well see some other forecasts in other places. 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:30.840 They start to. 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:35.880 Move Pennsylvania back towards the Democrats. If that happens, they win, 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.600 but right now they're not quick break back with more 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.280 plenty to talk about here on Paul Murray Live. 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.280 No Sooks, no left He's after the break. But I'd 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:43.720 love to know who you think the winner and loser 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:44.160 of the week is. 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:50.560 Jump on the socials told you no sooks, no left. 0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.120 These and they're in Melbourne for us right now. 0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.160 Christen Abrams a wonderful libertarian and a man who's ready 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.040 to fight fire with fire, because that's the way it 0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:01.160 always is, is the lovely Michael Kroger. Never give fight, fight, fight, 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.400 as the great Man said, just a few fight fight. 0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:04.760 Yeah so. 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:10.920 Jim Charmers today says that he supports the Queensland Government's 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:16.680 ridiculous idea which no money, no planning will never happen, 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.800 that they will build twelve petrol. 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.279 Stations in Brisbane to bring down the cost of pairer. 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:28.160 This is utter almost said it rubbish, like it's such 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.279 garbage all right now, Michael, you know this is a 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.440 desperate government fingernails being dragged through the streets, fascinating stuff 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.080 about unions and cameras and all the rest of it. Right, 0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:42.280 But as as low rent, desperate promises. 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:43.720 Go, this is about as bad as it gets. 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.719 But to hear the Treasurer back it in, tells us 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.239 everything about how they've got no idea what they're doing. 0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:53.000 Mate, what what? 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:54.000 I don't know what? 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:55.879 I honestly don't know what to say. I mean, when 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.319 Miles said he was doing this for thirty six million 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.480 dollars worth of borrowed money, I thought this guy has 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.799 gone bonkers. He's completely lost the plot. He's had too 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:08.120 much son up there in Queensland. But then when Jim 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:13.880 Charmers put the credibility of his position on the line, 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.279 meaning that's basically the position of the government. So I 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:21.440 suppose Peter Stephanovic, if he had over one again, do 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.960 you support your Treasurer's view that the Queensland poor old 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.160 taxpayer should put thirty six million into petrol station. It's 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.000 just there was any doubt about Charmer's credibility. This has 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.279 totally destroyed his credibility. Let me simply say this. I 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:37.440 know there's tens of thousands of viewers watching in Queensland tonight, 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.960 so I say this to them. Put your hand up 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.440 if you would like to invest any of your money 0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.200 in a petrol station run by Steven Miles. There are 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.360 no hands up. Bank of Queensland, the head of the 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:51.359 Bank of Queensland. 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:52.680 Would you like to ring. 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.080 Him tomorrow and say we're on the hook for the 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:59.200 thirty six mil I mean, this is a preposterous idea. 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.319 I remind of the great nineteen seventy one business, the 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.959 Burke's Actu Store in Melbourne, which is a store where 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.600 Bob Hawk and the act You went into the retail business. 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.400 They had did some good early on in relation to 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:15.320 busting a price cartel, but putting that aside, the act 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.800 You thought they could run a retail business. You know 0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.239 what happened a few years later it went bus And 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.120 the only advice I'd give it, well, the only advice 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.120 I'd give to Stephen Miles is this is this. Stephen, 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.920 if you're proposing to go ahead with this preposterous idea. 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:36.080 Give John Howard a ring because John Howard's father ran 0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:40.719 a petrol station, as did his grandfather. If anyone and 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.800 John used to work there as a boy, he was 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.239 in Dullich Hill in New South Wales. Ring John, He'll 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:48.920 tell your heart it is to run a petrol station. 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.960 Give him a ring, Stephen, because you have got no 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.120 idea what you're doing. This is preposterous and Jim Charmers, 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:56.160 shame on you. 0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.960 Yeah, I mean look again, Christen, it's not going to 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.279 happen at this stage. The government doesn't look like it 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.960 will be re elected. There's no detail in and around it. 0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.399 But it takes the next level when rather than ol 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:08.160 I haven't read it, I haven't heard about it. 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.279 Sorry I didn't know about that. 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.920 Like there's many ways they all bat it away instead 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:16.120 doubles down again. But also what does the promise speak 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:20.239 to about what the government thinks. The expectation is that 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.279 the voters have of them to fix every one of 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:28.480 their problems and think there's no financial consequences to anything. 0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.400 It's not every one of their problems. The government is 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.239 causing this problem and let's address the elephant in the room. 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.920 We pay nearly fifty cents per liter on fuel in 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.720 excise tax that goes to the government, and can't Miles 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.640 turn around and pick up his phone and call charmers 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.160 and go, hey, maybe let's address the cost of living 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.960 in a real way. Maybe let's reduce excise tax. Remove 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.480 it ideally, but let's reduce it because that would actually 0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.239 do a lot more than the government. Starting up some 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:03.040 petrol states is taking a page out of Venezuela's playbook, 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:07.640 going from prosperous to poor and the government. Everything the 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.360 government touches turns to inflation. So don't you think that 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.759 the petrol stations will do exactly that. It's ridiculous. 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:18.040 Yeah, but again it's this this idea, and as you 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.960 say on that policy, in particular, when cost of living 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.799 hurts the way that it does, and they've had two surpluses, right, 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.839 they could theoretically do without the money because they haven't 0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.560 worked out even where to spend it, right, But they 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:35.400 this year increased the taxes. Remember they distracted everyone with 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.960 the oh, there'll be a thousand dollars saving with the 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.799 the you know, the ute tax and all the rest 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:40.960 of it. 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.320 The next to well, well, of course rubbish. 0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.319 That said, let's get to the politics in and around this, 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:48.920 because it is interesting to see here the flare go 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.440 up and the Channel nine papers trying to find ways 0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.200 to pull the PM out at the moment. But also 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.120 fundamental to that is them having to recognize he's in trouble, 0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.840 and he's in trouble because of the economy. Under mental 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.040 promise was to change the cost of living. It is 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:08.480 fundamentally the exact opposite. And as we know, interest rates 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.800 the elbow dozen of twelve and the few was on. No, 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:16.080 it's the thirteenth that's going to worry people. No, no, No, twelve, eleven, ten, nine, 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.120 eight and seven are still problems for people right now. 0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:23.480 Michael. Look, people have no money. 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.440 I don't think this government's got any idea how desperate 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.080 people are. The interest rates are killing people, they're cutting 0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.400 back on food. I mean, I don't think they've got 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.200 any idea. People can't afford their insurance, they can't afford petrol, 0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.239 they can't afford anything. I think so many people are 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:38.400 on the bones of their backside. 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.080 Mate, and. 0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.680 You know Albaneze, he gets off scott free in a 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.239 lot of these interviews Thank goodness for Pete Stephanovic. Well 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.760 done to him this morning. The best interview, the best 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.799 interview of a federal leader since Jonathan Lee's interview of 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.440 Bill Shorten during the nineteen twenty nineteen campaign on the 0:39:56.480 --> 0:40:00.279 cost of the cost of his promises. But Albo's getting 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.160 away with murder. But the good news is, you know, 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.400 the good news is that the working middle class voters. 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.279 It takes them a while because I don't concentrate on 0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.960 politics as obsessively as some of us do. 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:13.600 But after a few. 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.480 Months, Mate, they get it and they're now working it out. 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.240 It's taken people a while, but Elbow's voters sinking, sinking, sinking, 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.400 and they've now worked out. This guy never had a plan. 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.080 He never had an idea how to reduce prices two 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.640 hundred and seventy five dollars in the electricity market. It 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:29.400 was all bulldust. 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.440 Well, he's really funny that he said, he's you know, no, 0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:34.319 go go, go, go go. 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:34.799 I love it. 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.239 I think it's really funny that he said that he's 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:42.560 working arm in arm with the RBA. But the RBA 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.600 is doing nothing today, so is Elbow doing nothing? Because 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.880 clearly that's what's happening to our economy at the moment 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:54.040 that people say that spending is like drinking and inflation 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.840 is the hangover. Unfortunately, we have to go through inflation 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.120 to be able to sober up. But it looks it's 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.400 like to me, the Labor Party has a drinking problem. 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.320 And the perfect example of that is the three point 0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:09.520 six billion dollars that they've just promised for childcare for 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.400 them to buy votes for the next election at the 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.680 expense of mortgage payers and the economy. But it does 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.279 kind of make sense that they're targeting childcare for this 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.000 because mum and dad will both have to work two 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.040 jobs to survive these days, and someone's going to have 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.080 to raise the kids because mum and dad aren't going 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:28.279 to be able to do it well. 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:31.040 And also really important, remember there was the age care 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:35.560 nurses and there's the childcare sector, both of course heavily unionized, 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:41.440 where a section of their pay packet every single fortnight 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:45.440 week month is going to be coming from the federal budget. 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.520 All right, So in the same way that all of 0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.840 the money that you pay a soldier, part of the 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.840 money that goes to those two sectors. And of course 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.440 what's very important to note here is that Michael, this 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:58.719 is forever spending, all right. This is one of those 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.439 things that's there for a year, there for two two years, 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.560 and of course anyone who touches it, Oh they're trying 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.840 to go after child they don't care about your kids. 0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:06.799 That you don't care about Nana. 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.040 And Popper, all the rest of it. Forever in the 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.239 federal budget. This has been baked in yet again. The 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.560 consequences of all of this when according to their own report, 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.160 the Intergenerational Report, is we're going to go into structural 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:22.520 deficit for forty five years. All of this stuff makes 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.080 those deficits deeper. 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:28.880 Michael, Well, look, I should declare, as I always do 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:30.880 when we talk about childcare, that I have a financial 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:34.560 interest in that sector. But putting that aside, Look, the 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.319 problem is this mate, this blog can't control his expenditure. 0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.600 They're spending one hundred and thirty five billion dollars more 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.040 out of the federal budget between twenty twenty three and 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.960 twenty twenty six. And you know, of course, childcare workers 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:49.920 who do an incredible job, and I know a lot 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.360 of them, they are an incredible job. Of course, you 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.560 know they deserve a payrise. You love a lot of 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.719 people in that position to get get a really good 0:42:56.719 --> 0:43:00.480 pay ride, of course, but the federal gup, it's got 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.160 to draw a line in relation to its other spending, 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:08.320 its infrastructure spending that he just can't control himself. And 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.120 as I said before, you've got to make some enemies 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.120 in this business. If you're the federal treasurer. You can't 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.759 be you know, like like you're at a lolly shop 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:23.720 handing out freebiester kids and including great hand well indeed 0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:27.919 they've got they've got the hand out frequently. You've got 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.880 to make hard decisions as treasurer. And I'm afraid Jim's 0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.080 not the right man with his PhD and Paul keating 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:38.920 it ain't it ain't good enough, and he's Jim Charmers 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.120 is weighing on this government. He is part of the 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.520 reason their vote is going down because he's a weak treasurer. 0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.960 He's just a commentator. He's not across the detail and 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:48.080 he doesn't have a backbone. 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.080 I'm with you guys, Thank you so much. I talk 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:51.839 too long, which means you don't get enough time tonight, 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.480 but thank you very much, See very soon. 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.160 Michael Croker and Kristin abram all. 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.960 Right, after the break, somebody who is helping people at 0:43:57.960 --> 0:43:59.520 a time when there's lots of people that are doing 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.799 it tough. I love introducing you to people who are 0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:07.080 actually getting their hands dirdy on the ground helping people. 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:14.360 You can help them after the break. This week is 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.719 National Homelessness Week, and as you know, there are way 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:20.920 too many people who sleep rough. It's not their choice. 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.040 There's a great amount of complication around all of this, 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:24.839 and the Census told us that there's more people doing 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:25.640 it than ever before. 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:27.440 Salvos told us this week that. 0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.680 Almost one in four people who are in serious financial 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.120 stress right now are worried about potentially ending up on 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.640 the streets. Well, for those who are, there is a 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:38.520 service for people to help them and to help them 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.600 to have a sense of cleanliness and to also have 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:41.440 a sense of pride. 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:42.640 It's called Orange Sky. 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.680 Shane Herritt is the person who has been running it 0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.240 for a long time now, has received many in awards 0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.439 and honored to be able to talk to him tonight 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:51.759 because he's doing incredible work. 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:53.600 Love you to see you mate again. 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.759 Normally we do all the other politics and all the 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.440 rest of it, so it's not about politics. This is 0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.799 just about well, doneder normal people doing big things. Tell 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:05.200 us basically what Orange Sky does, helping people on the streets. 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.960 Yeah, and really appreciate you taking the time to talk 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.600 about such an important issue obviously impacting so many people. 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:16.040 So yeah, our own Sky was the world's first laundry 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.719 and shower service that was mobile and built in vands 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.800 to be able to support people who are experiencing homements, 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.960 this or just having a tough time. So we show 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.640 up at over three hundred shifts all around Australia and 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.120 we're powered by an amazing team of over three and 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.600 a half thousand volunteers who keep the vans on the 0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.480 road and keep those watching machines spinning. 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.480 Because this is the thing where you know, just because 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.120 you don't have a place to stay doesn't mean that 0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.399 you have to have dirty clothes. We all know what 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:44.920 that feeling is like if you've ever been on a 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:46.879 long plane ride or you're just back of a bus 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.320 for a couple of days. So let alone that process 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.719 of once a week. We also know that there's an 0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.240 awful lot of people and you've done some other survey 0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:56.840 work around all of this that are right on that 0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:01.239 edge right now, and it's a scary place to be 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:05.000 and you see people on both sides of that age, 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:06.640 the people that are right up against it and the 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:08.520 people that are on the other side of it and 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.600 are sleeping rough. Does it feel like things are getting 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.160 busier for you, there's more people you need to help. 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:18.800 Yeah, we're definitely getting busier, and so compared to last year, 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.360 we've seen an increase in demand by about twenty one percent. 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.080 And it's not just in demand, it's also different people 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.880 showing up. So when we started about ten years ago, 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.040 the mission really was focusing around those people who are 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.920 sleeping rough and experiencing homelessness. And as we've evolved, what 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.520 we've seen it's actually just connecting with people who are 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.839 just experiencing sort of hardship or having a tough time 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:43.040 or maybe a bit disconnected. So at our services, we're 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:47.520 seeing a lot more families turning up. We've seen young 0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.560 men and women, we've seen retirees, we've seen people who 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.160 are working multiple jobs who still are struggling just to 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.680 make ends meet, and the attorney into services like Orange 0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.359 Sky for the extra help. So we knew we were 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.000 busy and this research that we've done just reinforces that 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:02.440 more so. 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:04.840 Again, I mean, that's that's wild. 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:06.960 It is wild that there are people who and this 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.040 is not a new phenomenon, but there are more of 0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:13.080 these people than seemingly ever before, certainly for some period 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.160 of time, which is people who have jobs who don't 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.640 have somewhere to live, the rental crisis, whether prices are 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.320 too high and there's not enough places, let alone of 0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.239 course you know people who might be right on the edge, relationships, 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.640 all the different reasons why people are not able to 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:27.960 get there. But give us an idea of some of 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.279 the other things that came up in the research for you. 0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.440 Yeah, absolutely so. The research that we did showed that 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.680 sort of three and five of the respondents we're making 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.600 moderate to significant changes to their lifestyle. So this is 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.200 much beyond the old giving up the act and toast 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.200 or the open pat like. This is taking on second jobs, 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.680 cutting back on the essential spending, or changing their living situation, 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.319 which obviously has flow and implications. One in ten so 0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.200 they skip to meal just due to lack of funds, 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.160 and then one in five had to end up borrowing 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.560 money selling something just to be to pay a bill 0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:04.000 or rent so all of those obviously huge deals, and 0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:05.799 then I think what worries me is more to flow 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:09.840 and implications from skipping a meal or having to borrow 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.840 money just to pay an essential item. 0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:13.560 Yeah, and then you just go further and back and 0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:15.719 you're chasing your tail and then eventually just yeah, you 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:17.520 fall into a very bad place. 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:19.600 Your website, Orange guy dot org. That are you. 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.319 People can donate, people can obviously volunteer all the rest 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.160 of it. But congratulations to you and your organization. Thank 0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.200 you for what you do, and I'm sorry you're as busy. 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:27.480 As you are. 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:29.440 Thanks for having us. 0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:30.879 Lennie, thank you very much. Shane. 0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:33.640 Of course, one more time Orange guy dot org. Did 0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:37.879 you donate help them out? Because again we always talk 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:41.040 about government business all the rest of it. I care 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:44.560 about what's happening right now tonight. Think of how cold 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:48.799 it's been tonight. People help. I always would like to 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:50.880 see government do more to crack off bigger checks to 0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.879 go directly to the people who are doing it. Until then, 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.279 it's you and me Orange sky dot org dot that's 0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:57.799 our show for the week. Thank you very much for watching. 0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:00.640 We'll see you again Sunday night. Go Yankees.