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Speaker 1: Welcome to the mentor. I'm Mark Boris, Michael Emprel, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Mentor.

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Speaker 2: Mate, Thank you Mark, thanks very much. Where As we

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Speaker 2: say to all of our cabin guests, welcome home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually, well, I was going to say, it's

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Speaker 1: funny with me saying welcome, because you're not in my studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm in your studio. I'm in money of your cabins

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Speaker 1: and nice and cozy. I must add, we've got the

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Speaker 1: fire going here, which our listeners can't or our watchers

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Speaker 1: can't see or yeah, they're differently gonna hear the fire.

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you I'm on the side of

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Speaker 1: the fire, which is my preferred position to be. And

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Speaker 1: it's a beauty. And I'm going to ask you about a

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Speaker 1: bit later. So you're the founder of Cabin and by

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Speaker 1: the way, spelt C A B M. Very clever you.

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Speaker 1: And there's more than one cabin. There's lots of cabins here.

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Speaker 1: And I actually noticed some tent style things down there

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Speaker 1: which I want to ask you about as well, Safari

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Speaker 1: safari tins. Yeah, because I'm actually curious about those things

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Speaker 1: myself often first level. But let me just get a

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Speaker 1: bit of background about you. If you don't mind, please, Michael,

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Speaker 1: have you always been doing retreats or whatever we call it,

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Speaker 1: How do you best describe this? Give me your description

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Speaker 1: and what we're doing. And we're in the Brassa Valley,

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Speaker 1: that's the first thing. Yes, yeah, it's awesome outside, like

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Speaker 1: it's a bloody, beautiful, crisp, clear, sunny, unbelievable day. But

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Speaker 1: describe maybe where we are, what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Sure, well, yeah, as you mentioned, we're in the beautiful

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Speaker 2: Brossa Valley, which is the home of some of the

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Speaker 2: best wines in the world. And we're in Seppuletsfield, which

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Speaker 2: is one of those magnificent palm lined promenades that has

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Speaker 2: a history all its own. We chose this property, we

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Speaker 2: handpicked it, as we do with all of our properties,

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Speaker 2: to make sure that we're aligned with all the principles

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Speaker 2: of cabin But this is a beautiful example of how

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Speaker 2: we're creating I guess. I guess in a sense, if

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Speaker 2: I was to explain what this is to people in

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Speaker 2: one sentence, it's that we're a nature hotel like no.

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Speaker 1: Other nature hotel. That's interesting, and you've got unbelievable people

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Speaker 1: can't wait out of suit. Although we're going to put

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Speaker 1: and the b roll and the promos that this place

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Speaker 1: is just not in the middle of I wouldn't call

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Speaker 1: it the bushmen, not quite the bush but we sort

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Speaker 1: it's also a well structured because when I was driving here,

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Speaker 1: something I know is interesting is I saw these phoenix

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Speaker 1: palms or Canary Islan date palms lining the streets. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what the hell is that? That's obviously not a native

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Speaker 2: It's a great story mark and it's actually a legacy

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Speaker 2: piece from the Sepults family. So in World War two.

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Speaker 1: The Wine family, yes, which is the beautiful building structure

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Speaker 1: It looks like one hundred odds. I mean, what were

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty. But that the family had a lot

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Speaker 2: to plant all along separate children. So that was how

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Speaker 2: thinking around you know, what are you doing that creates legacy?

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Speaker 2: And that's part of what we're trying to do with

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Speaker 1: Like I may have a little bit of knowledge about

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Speaker 1: those canarios on Dope palms or phoenix palms, got lots

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that anywhere in Australia when

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Speaker 2: Even just you talking about that to me also just

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Speaker 2: once told you about legacy, and you know the person

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing and not you know, not to take

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Speaker 2: And what was he doing, the one without gray hair

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, maybe don't go I'm just joking. If you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was really fortunate Mark that I was

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Speaker 2: And so that, you know, I gave that advice, and

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Speaker 2: And you know, there's a bit more detail to it,

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Speaker 2: but that's how cabin was more that's very me.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the moment or it was remembered that

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Speaker 2: We'd spent a week over at Harvard Business School doing

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Speaker 2: which was called The Minimalists, which was to the minimalist Yes, ye, minimalists. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it looks that way, but you got beautiful pathways

433
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: through everything. Everything looks young and fresh.

434
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Speaker 2: To me.

435
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm big on nature, and I can just see a

436
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: lot of the especially the Australian natives or the native stuff.

437
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: It's so sort of young and fresh, and it looks

438
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: quite vibrant and new, but at the same time it's

439
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: it's like a teenager. It's big and fluffy, and it

440
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: looks quite interesting to me, Like nearly looks edible. That's

441
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: the fairly sense I got it. Nearly looks edible. It's awesome,

442
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: bright green, and it's sort of invigorating. It is probably

443
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: the best worth of med us I felt quite I

444
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: felt it looked looked quite invigorating.

445
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's my work he has done, because

446
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: that's exactly what we try to achieve everywhere is how

447
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: can you how can this feel like a big hug

448
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: to all the people that are visiting and that we're

449
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: lucky enough to call guests. So that's that's the design

450
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: intent that we go through with everything from the cabins

451
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: all the way through landscaping. You know, the natives we've

452
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: planted just here alone. I think it's eighteen hundred natives,

453
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: and that is again another big commitment that we make

454
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: to regenerative tourism and something that we've.

455
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: Learned regenerative regenerative tourism. That's an interesting adjective to put

456
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: in front of the word tourism, because what you're what

457
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: the tourists or guest is experiencing, is the regeneration of

458
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: the land. So maybe this was I don't know, what

459
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: was this before you got here.

460
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: So this is sheep can probably well, this is probably

461
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: the perfect example of a regenerative tourism project. So this

462
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: was an existing this was an existing use site, so

463
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: it had old cabins on it. We bought this site,

464
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: and so we we thought what would it look like

465
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: if we reinvented it and took those regenerative tourism practices

466
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: into effects. So we you know, this is when I

467
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: I guess to go back to just a quick step how

468
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: we see regenerative tourism and the guiding principles that we use.

469
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: We've learned from indigenous culture and from some First Nations

470
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: groups that you know, we we've worked pretty closely with

471
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: and continued as in regeneration, yeah, as in really it

472
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: should start with your intent of how can I leave

473
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 2: something better than I found it, and how can I

474
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: look after it for the next generations, you know, like

475
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: you know, in similar way to the palms that we

476
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: were just talking about, So that that sort of shapes

477
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: how we go through a native vegetation planting process and

478
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: then the things that we've seen that have evolved from

479
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: us completely breathing you life into this site is a

480
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: way more bird life. You know, the boys that stayed

481
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: here last night would have heard so many birds with

482
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: heaps of wildlifees come back in, so it's really you know,

483
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: it's multi layered. Also, this stops a huge amount of

484
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: soil erosion that the benefits are pretty far reaching.

485
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: Apart from visual benefits. Yeah, of course, I mean, I

486
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: mean some people probably a lot of people don't realize

487
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: is because I've done a few of these projects myself,

488
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: not to extend you have done it, but just linking

489
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: up all the more forests or small outgrowth, so like

490
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: you might have a growth of something here but a

491
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: big gap just grass for example, and then the next

492
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: lot of growth is down there. The problem is the

493
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: wildlife that lives in this growth always wants to go

494
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: down to that wildlife growth down the road, but they

495
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: don't want to take travel over the grass, snakes, small

496
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: small reptiles because again to get picked off by the

497
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: birds and actually connecting all these things is really important.

498
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: They need corridors and I was noticing, how you know,

499
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: your little areas that you've just looked like they've just

500
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: been plunged, as you said, the last couple of years.

501
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: They're all connecting each other. So you give wildlife the

502
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to make its way from a tree or from

503
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: the ground, or whatever the case may be, along the

504
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: corridors sort of safely as nature has designed it. That's

505
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: proper regeneration. I mean, I did notice that when I

506
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: first came in here, and I actually got a surprise,

507
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're hanging out in this nice,

508
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: cozy little cabin, and I think it's important. And I

509
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: notice you have a book here, which we we've got

510
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: how sound systems sitting on, but a book here which

511
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: probably explains the people. Well, maybe it's important for you

512
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: to explain to everybody what you would like people to

513
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: get out of coming here, not just from staying in

514
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: this cozy little cabin that's nice and warm, and all

515
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: the facilities here blah blah blah. Yes, you can have

516
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: a sauna and it's plenty of room to move around,

517
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: and if you wanted to go on a wine tour

518
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. What is it you

519
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: want them to get out of here, which they may

520
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: not really realize if they're sitting on that brand of

521
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: there without someone like you telling him a story. Not

522
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: unlike how the indigenous elders might tell a story about

523
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, something about First Nations myths and stories. I mean,

524
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: what would you be wanting to tell? Does your book

525
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: do that? By Wade? What do you want to tell

526
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: me about it?

527
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: I'll show you afterwards. But that's one of the books

528
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: that we were featured in with our design of the

529
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: first cabin.

530
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: So outside of the cabin though, what would you you know?

531
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: If I'm seeing that on the balcony, what do you

532
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: want to tell me about it? Mark appreciate this and

533
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: it's not s guiding, but you know yeah.

534
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: I think at its core is appreciate nature and all

535
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: its benefits. I and it takes me back to my

536
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: childhood of you know what, what I resonated with was

537
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: the joy of play and the joy that you get

538
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: out of nature. You know. I was I was driving

539
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: this week and we've had some rain here and we

540
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: stopped at the lights, as with my family, we saw

541
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: a little she would have been two or three years

542
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: old girl at the traffic lights and she was jumping

543
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: in a puddle and you know that brought me so

544
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: much joy and we were like, exactly because we lose

545
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: so much of that with you know, as we evolved

546
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: through through you know, our generations and different stresses and

547
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: different things that come, you know, with age and responsibility.

548
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: So it's really about creating a space and a place

549
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: for people to switch off. And primarily that's exactly why

550
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: we don't offer Wi Fi and we don't have screens,

551
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: because that that is you know, they're enablers. And of

552
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: course if you need it, you know, everywhere we are

553
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: within the state, you can get you can pay your

554
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: phone to something. But the idea of it is to

555
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: not do it and to breathe, to listen, to smell,

556
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: to just stop and slow down. And I still do

557
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: it myself, and I think it's you know, it's really important,

558
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: you know, even last night, just to stand by a

559
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: fire and that it's those sensory things that really can

560
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: can help hugely with burnout, with taking yourself out of

561
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: a out of the mindset that you know, we we

562
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: tend to be in on a day to day basis.

563
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: You don't get that, you know, I'm not knocking motels

564
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: or hotels. You know, I stay in a lot of

565
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: them with my travels. That they're fantastic, but it is

566
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: nowhere near the except function and.

567
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Practical that exactly me, Let me sleep somewhere, let me

568
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: have a shower, and then I'll get on that exactly.

569
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a purpose, you know, we were our strong

570
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: purpose is to reconnect people with nature and each other,

571
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: to get people to rediscover those things, you know, those

572
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: childlike things, the things that like jumping in the puddle,

573
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: but also to reconnect, you know, to reconnect with with

574
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: your loved ones or whoever you're traveling with you. You know,

575
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: it's pretty hard to do that when you're watching Netflix

576
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: as opposed to know, sitting here playing a card game

577
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: or or even just the active cooking a barbecue together.

578
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: And so they're they're they're those quintessential pillars of of

579
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: what Cabin is designed to give people that you know,

580
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: we're I mean, we're we're super proud of and you know,

581
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: I'd love to be able to share some of the

582
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: stories of you know, of of the impact that Cabin's

583
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: made on people that have stayed. And it's incredible.

584
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: What's the average stay here two nights. Yeah, it's funny,

585
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, Michael, that's it's an interesting thing. I was

586
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: just thinking of just speaking sometimes you only need two

587
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: three days, two nights, and that sort of use that

588
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: word recharges, recharge ourselves. But and you mentioned and people,

589
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, connecting the nature. But I actually think it's

590
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. I think nature is

591
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: just a naghbler. It allows you to reconnect with yourself.

592
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is a you said

593
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: earlier about connecting with reconnecting with your values. I mean

594
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: you've made a major reconnection. You've actually turned it into

595
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: a life lifestyle. But just reconnecting with what's important to you,

596
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: but also reconnecting with your senses. Like if I stood

597
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: out there now, the sunshining, and if I just let

598
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: my senses take over and maybe even close my eyes

599
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: and not use my eyes, but listen and feel, like

600
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: feel the air on cold air, hot air, whatever it's summer, winter,

601
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any difference, but feel it and listened.

602
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: Listen to the things that you're allowed back onto the property.

603
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Birds usually it's bird life. You know. You can hear sounds,

604
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: maybe the rustle of the trees, if there's a slight breeze.

605
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Just reconnecting with your senses. I think that's a really

606
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: important thing because when we're living in the city, we're

607
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: living in that hustle bustle, we're not relying on many senses,

608
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: usually just our eyes. Usually we're not smelling anything. Rarely

609
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: do we smell anything. Do we take a moment to

610
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: think I'm smelling something. You do smell things which you

611
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: don't consciously are not aware of it. And I think,

612
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: what just my experience here this morning is giving me.

613
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I do it like as I own a

614
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: farm and I go there all the time. So I

615
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: do this a lot. But it almost up a Byron

616
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: Bay Oh beautiful, But I put it. I appreciate it

617
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: is because I appreciate what you're saying, because I do this.

618
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: I've created this twenty odd years ago, mainly because similar

619
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: to yourself, I need to do it for myself and

620
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: for my kids, so that I had somewhere I could go.

621
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: And what I originally termed as recharging, But what I

622
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: can say today is reconnecting, and it's about just stop.

623
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Have a cup of coffee. If you're gonna have a

624
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: cup of coffee mark, walk outside and let the light

625
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: shine on you, the sun and look towards us. I'm

626
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: not into this. Somebody look towards the sun, enjoy the

627
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: morning sun, appreciate the fact that the sun comes up,

628
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: you know. You know, we don't do that like in

629
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: the city where in Sydney where I live, I'm at

630
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: work before the sun rises, especially at this time of

631
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: year June, and I'm at home when the sun's already set,

632
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: so I don't see any daylight unless I take the

633
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: time to go out to my office go for a walk.

634
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: So but that's fine. I'm not complaining. But I also

635
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: know that I need to go reset somewhere, and I

636
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: need to do at least once every two months, or

637
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: at least around that to six state week period. Not

638
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: everyone can afford to have their own property like that,

639
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: but something like this and all your other venues around

640
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: South Australia, I think is playing a critical role in

641
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: allowing us to stop going nuts crazy as a society.

642
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wish everyone go every every month,

643
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: every single person in the country. I wish there were

644
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: enough enough of these outlets you and others could set

645
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: them up all around Australia. That Australia could boast is

646
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: one of the because our nature is unbelievable, that Australia

647
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Speaker 1: could boast as being the number one country in the

648
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: world for people reconnecting with nature and reconnecting with themselves

649
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: at least every eight weeks. And maybe instead of measuring

650
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: cells by GDP, only by GDP and our inflation number

651
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: and the interest rate and every other bloody thing, whether

652
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: we could also do another measurement a bit like they're

653
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: doing some other Central Asian countries they do about happiness,

654
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: but like reconnection or how.

655
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: Do I feel?

656
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: And Scandinavia scan correct how do I? And Japan does

657
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: it too to something. How do I feel? Do I

658
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: feel reconnected? I don't mean emotionally, I'm not talking about

659
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: that like deep seated emotions, just physically. Can I feel

660
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: relaxed and connected? And I think that's a big deal.

661
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't agree more. You know, when I

662
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: was listening to you talking about, you know, getting to

663
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: the office before sun up and leaving after sundown and

664
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: then what it's like you know, which I would say,

665
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: and you know there's not every I mean, you certainly

666
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: get it, but you know, my team and I work

667
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: extremely hard to deliver this for people. So you know,

668
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: not every day is this, but a lot of what

669
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: we do is just running on adrenaline, you know, it is.

670
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: It's adrenaline that's getting us through, you know, the day

671
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: to day. So to be able to come to somewhere

672
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: like this and something that we know we're working on

673
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: as a company and we've recognized a huge need for it,

674
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: not just for the individual, but you know, certainly for

675
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: midweek corporate retreats or for you know, people to recognize

676
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: where their team might need a reset and to reconnect,

677
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: you know, to come somewhere like this. I still do it.

678
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really maybe I'm not surprised about this

679
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: or or proud of it, but I still find myself,

680
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: you know, like like you know you do with your farm,

681
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: finding any excuse I can to get to one of

682
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: our six properties and you know, to go away for

683
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: a midweek stay. And I actually find that I'm because

684
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: of what we've created here. When I'm in a cabin

685
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: or you know, one of our other products, I think differently.

686
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: I have I'm a little bit more structured with some

687
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: of my decisions and outcomes because of less distractions. I

688
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: think that there's less noise so I can recalibrate. I

689
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: actually leave sometimes, and yeah, you can say, well, it

690
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: shouldn't always be for a work purpose. It should be

691
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: for something you know, personal and nature base. But I

692
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: leave so many of these stays myself with some really

693
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: key decisions that are better for the team and the business.

694
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: And it's it's it's got so many broad reaching benefits.

695
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's most people. We talk about it in

696
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: general times. We have you and I have been today

697
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: and again I was thinking to myself because I'm really

698
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: interested in the science of this stuff, and this is

699
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: not very fairy, you know, promotional stuff what I'm going

700
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: through and you and I discussing about today. To me,

701
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: I think there's you can actually find a basis in science.

702
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: You know, if you're running on adrenaline put it this

703
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: start again, if you're in order for you to run

704
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: on adrenaline, in other words, for your adrenal gland to

705
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: be pumping adrenaline into your system, and for your your

706
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: other parts of your body pumping quartersol in your system,

707
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, And we keep hearing this about this in

708
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: the in the health environment generally speaking, you are in

709
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: that fight or flight mode. So a part of your

710
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: brain sending a message down to your various areas of boty,

711
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: including your adrenal glands, to say to your based on

712
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: its senses, what it's seeing. So your eyes are seeing something,

713
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: or you're feeling something, but just generally speaking, you' seeing something,

714
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: you're experiencing something. It sends a message to your brain,

715
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: and your brain then sends a chemical down to a gland,

716
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: and the gland this says, shit, fiight or flight. Let's

717
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: produce quartisole. Let's produce adrenaline, and that merely grabs a

718
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: whole lot of all the glucose in your system, and

719
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: it pumps you up, and you go hard. Your eyes

720
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: light up. You're on. You're actually on. But we're not

721
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: meant to be that way all the time. We are

722
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: meant to be that way, but we also meant to

723
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: go into rest and digest mode. So we're also meant

724
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: to after that happens, stop and slow down and give

725
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: ourselves a chance to have a slower heartbeat, to breathe

726
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: less breaths per minute. And you know, there's a lot

727
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: of science that tells you how many press per minute

728
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: at rest you should be doing if you should be

729
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: doing less than sixteen some other number. If you're doing

730
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: more than sixteen untills, you've got some other issue, perhaps

731
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: a come to oxid issuld. But like scientifically having the

732
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: and mindfulness, all those other things like yoga, breathing exercises, meditation,

733
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: but the big one is nature and reducing the noise

734
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and all the distractions out of life, just for a

735
00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: short period so that you can actually sleep well and

736
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: and you can wake up I use the word right

737
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: the beginning reinvigorated, but basically clear of all the chemistry

738
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: that's been building up in your brain and the rest

739
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: of your body over that long period of time you've

740
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: been putting yourself under these stresses, which, by the way,

741
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: it's okay. Those things are okay. We do need stresses

742
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: in our life too, but we also need the opposite.

743
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: And it's about that's the balance. And I think that

744
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: what cabins like this, adventures like this look at it

745
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: as an adventure, but an eventual like this coming to

746
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: one of these places, which is in the middle of

747
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: a beautiful environment, actually gives an opportunity to appreciate how

748
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: important it is us to bring balance back to our life.

749
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: And as I said, I'm lucky I own a farm

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Speaker 1: and I can afford to pay for the maintenance of

751
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: because you don't make any money out of them. I

752
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: can afford, but not everyone's in that position. So what

753
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: I really feel good about in this conversation, Michael, if

754
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: you don't mind me saying this, is that I know

755
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: this is a commercial venture for you, but at the

756
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: same time, it serves an important purpose. And I think

757
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: we are running these days at such a hectic pace

758
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: just to compete and to keep more importantly, just to

759
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: keep up with the whole world. Now it's not as

760
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: you know, me keeping up with Sydney or someone down

761
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: to keep me up with Adelaide. It's they're keeping up

762
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: with everyone in Australia, and in Australia keep up with

763
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: everyone in the world. To some extent, we're competing with

764
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: the world. And it's it's never been like this before.

765
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: It's it's post COVID. Is just I just can't I

766
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: can't believe the rapid pace that things have happened. And

767
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: you know old Moore's law, which is like you know,

768
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: transistors develop and double their speed within you know, on computers.

769
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about double the speed in two years. Whatever

770
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: is I mean, I think that law's been shot to death.

771
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: We're like two months. Things change so fast here and

772
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: just keeping up it's quite impossible nearly. So we do

773
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: need this. I don't know if you, I mean, maybe

774
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: you do realize, because maybe I'm just wondering with it.

775
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: You've been out of that city rat race for so

776
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: long now you may not have seen it. Or maybe

777
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: because there's a commercial business you still see it. No,

778
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I see it.

779
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: I've I travel a bit and you know, I'm involved in,

780
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: you know, quite a few things, so I do see it.

781
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: And I think you know, as you know, just listening

782
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: to what you were saying before about you know, when

783
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: you escape to your farm and one of the things

784
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: that you know, you is a byproduct of staying, you know,

785
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: whether it's at a cabin or whether it's anywhere regionally

786
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: in terms of that rest piece, is you know, that

787
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 2: circadian rhythm that you get into where it is phenomenal

788
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: to me that even with all I've learned and all

789
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: I know that I still you know, when I get

790
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: to Kangaro Island and you know, it's one of the

791
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: most beautiful places in the world that we have there

792
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: at capes and albans. But you know, and that's why

793
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: we like the cabin that we're in now. We built

794
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: these huge, big skylights for people to be able to stargazs.

795
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: But you can't even get to stargaze after night two

796
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: or three because as soon as it's dark you're ready

797
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: for you're asleep.

798
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: But that's great. It is it's supposed to happen, correct,

799
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: And that's.

800
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: Where we're missing that piece. And do your point around

801
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: you know the growth of things and you know the

802
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: data that's behind the compounding growth of AI things like

803
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: cabin and like you're getting away to your farm. My

804
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: firm view is that will become even more important because

805
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: that that need for balance and to be able to

806
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: I mean you imagine what imagine the speed of information

807
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: that we're all going to be getting and look, you

808
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: know we use it, but there will never be a

809
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: more important time for balance moving forward and also get

810
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: ready for a lot more burnout.

811
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Speaker 1: Well, it's great that South Australia is actually, to be

812
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: honest with you, just providing that because like you can

813
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: also not just have this, you can dip into in

814
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: the case of this particular cabin venue, the one here

815
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: in the the one here in Sepper's Field, which is Brossa,

816
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: you can actually if you want, you're not gonna get bored,

817
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: just get outside and go for a drive down the

818
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: road and go to all the wineries and have a

819
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: taste and buy a bit of wine. And you know,

820
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: perhaps go up to Adelaide Hills later on there's another

821
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: hour away. Whatever, if you've got time to kill, go

822
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: up there. There's you know, there's so many things. I mean,

823
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: yesterday we interviewed the couple from the Little Rickshaw, which

824
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: is a great little restaurant. Like there's unbelievable food and

825
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: Adelaide in this area here of McLaren var with Broussa Valley,

826
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: the Adelaide Hills. I mean, there's restaurants everywhere, great food,

827
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: grete wine, great venues. And then you can, as you say,

828
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: you can, you know, for once, tap into your circadian rhythms.

829
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: Actually got asleep when the sun goes down and wake

830
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: up when this when the birds start making a noise.

831
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Corner barrows I was just saying earlier, Corner barros are

832
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: my favorite bird in the world. Bar no No. I

833
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: only ever met one person who's similarly and I didn't

834
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: realize it was his favorite bird, but his wife, Delvine Tommy,

835
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: it was her husband's favorite bird, and that's John John

836
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: Cornell from the Crocodile Under series. It was a maid

837
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: of mine. But I only found it up after he

838
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: passedway that he also loved corner barrels. And by the way,

839
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: we live two hundred meters from each other, three hundred

840
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: meters from each other, owned Byron. That's where our farm,

841
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: his farm's are and my farm's eve. That's were mates

842
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: for a long time. And corner barres to me, are

843
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: so important in my life it's ridiculous. I actually commissioned

844
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: someone to paint me one. This cook as represents something

845
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: too extraordinarily important to me. What the first the first

846
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: bird that makes the first noise in the morning. They

847
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: go as a flock, they mate for life, they made

848
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: for life, They look after their family. Their ability to

849
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: interact with us as a community, humans as a community

850
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: is incredible. And they also have this and it goes

851
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: right back to your one of your earlier statements, this

852
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: childlike manner about them laughing Kooka Barros laughing is childlike

853
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: and it's a bit like.

854
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

855
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: It's the kid jumping in the puddle. To me, it's

856
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: like skipping. I don't mean skipping with the rope, I

857
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: mean skipping along along fifty meters. We forget about those

858
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: important connections to being a kid, and all of us

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Speaker 1: are still I've still got the boy inside of me.

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Speaker 1: I can see you have. And really, if we sit

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Speaker 1: back for a minute, you know we have got the

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Speaker 1: kid inside us. And and that's why Corcabara is important

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Speaker 1: to me. It's a childlike laughter. I just love it.

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Speaker 2: That's that is awesome, mate, I because clearly they've been

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Speaker 2: with us for ever, so that would be taking you

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Speaker 2: back to a childhood memory.

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Speaker 1: Every time you hear it as a kid, I remember

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00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: hear him as a kid.

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Speaker 2: How cool is that?

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Speaker 1: And you know, and if we talk about our First

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Speaker 1: Nations people, corcobaras or birds generally are extraordinarily important to

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Speaker 1: the First Nations people. In fact, my own whiskey business

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00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: up here is called the bird. And you know we

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00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: we name that the bird. We're going to be cheeky

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Speaker 1: because on one hand we were doing we give the bird.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it it's one of the best labels on

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Speaker 2: a bottle whiskey I've seen.

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Speaker 1: But it also is a nod to our First Nations

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Speaker 1: people in Australia that the importance of a bird to them,

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00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: and that's why we chose a bird. It's also related

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Speaker 1: to the burden hand winery here as up in the

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00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: Adelaide Hills, but it had too many combinations with birds,

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Speaker 1: childlike noise, absorbing these things which I'm getting from talking

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Speaker 1: to you here, right here in your cabin business here

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Speaker 1: right at this particular you know, this particular vendue. It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: So I want to say to Michael Emperor greater meet

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Speaker 1: you first. Wonderful, wonderful designs, wonderful architecture, great setting, wonderful

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Speaker 1: part of South Australia. Thanks very much for their gentle

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Speaker 1: reminder of what's important in life.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Mark, Thank you for your time, Thanks

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Speaker 2: for taking the time to come and experience what we're

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Speaker 2: creating here for people. And like I said before, welcome home,

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Speaker 2: don't stop. Thanks Mane