WEBVTT - Australia's Strongest Man | Alex Simon

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<v Speaker 1>Approche Production. Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am

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<v Speaker 1>Neil the Muscle comments and in this episode I speak

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<v Speaker 1>with Alex Simon form what Australian strong man?

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to like a fucking evil hard place here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're committing to it. I'll tell you a story. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I said this publicly. Actually it was over

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand a day cows the last time I was

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty. It was sixteen years old. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big bro, but mass miss mass Oh, yeah, bro

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<v Speaker 2>snacking on family size pizzas. That's my god. Now, i'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to make you say.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Simon recognized as the strongest Australian in history, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the third strongest in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true? A few years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>It is true?

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<v Speaker 2>Not anymore, I would say if fucking skinny vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel before we get into like everything about you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to bring this off first. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>usually do with this with guess one hundred and seventy kilos, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck that natural?

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and eighty one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so, that's that Google is fucked up? Yeah, inaccurate

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty one.

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<v Speaker 2>When I want to try this trunks. Man, I weighed

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and eighty one killers on the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred pounds, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I still got like the biggest that being is

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Had one feel skinny at one thirty six? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt skinny and I wanted to get You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>say for fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I felt too skinny because I get used to

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<v Speaker 1>with me if if I if I put on the size,

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<v Speaker 1>when I get used to that size, I then feel shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get more.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've never found I've never found my my size

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to be. I mean no, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>found it because like if I get on put it

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<v Speaker 1>this way, if I get on the once twenty five, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fucked. I'm having a nightment. I'm depressed. If I

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<v Speaker 1>can keep myself one thirty, yeah, I'm cool, gotcha. If

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<v Speaker 1>I can get up more, Like my goal was to

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<v Speaker 1>be one forty, I could never get there. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty seven about that, okay, but one fucking what

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<v Speaker 1>edie one.

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<v Speaker 2>One one killers, four hundred pounds, that's my biggest natural

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<v Speaker 2>of course? Not what?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's talk about you growing off first,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go back to that. Done, all right, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about you as a person growing up and no like.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck me dead. I'm born and raised in Sydney, from

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<v Speaker 2>the northwest, so around Castle Hill area. Grew up around there,

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<v Speaker 2>normal childhood, played rugby league my whole life, A couple

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<v Speaker 2>of close mates.

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<v Speaker 1>When do you say, right, you played rugby league? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you actually like? Were you playing? Nah?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't end up playing first grade or anything. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was descent. I was talented, but just very lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was young, I was fat, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like doing any hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was explosive and obviously I had big eyes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I never put it you see fat? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>mean by fat? No, I was a big kid. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a big fat built but still I was fat.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a fatty Oh yeah, I was a little

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<v Speaker 2>fat ALEX schooling Yeah, just normal, jumped out your ten,

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<v Speaker 2>No issues, really suspended a couple of times, just a

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<v Speaker 2>bit silly, yeah, nothing crazy, bro, But no. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a good kid, very quiet, you know, very quiet. Didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like confrontation when I was young, very scared of it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, very scared. Yeah, I didn't like confrontation at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Hated it. That's why I kind of started getting on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, putting on size.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like confrontation changed their ways when they

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<v Speaker 1>get older.

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<v Speaker 2>You just don't want to be a victim. Bro. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to learn to protect you as a kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young, When I was young for being fat.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just one kid. He just kept bullying me in

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<v Speaker 2>primary school. You ever see him since, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>a story. I don't think I said this publicly actually,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, Fuck, what's year too? How old are in

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<v Speaker 2>year two?

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<v Speaker 4>Shit?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whatever it was, but he kept bullying me.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a little girl I had a crush

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<v Speaker 2>on and she was my friend ready and then he

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<v Speaker 2>was bullying me for months months his camp and he

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<v Speaker 2>used to come up to me and I was chatting

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<v Speaker 2>to this chick I had a crush on. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was eight years old or something, and he just

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<v Speaker 2>started calling me I forgot. It was like fatty fady,

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<v Speaker 2>bumba or some ship, you know what I mean, in

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<v Speaker 2>front of her, and I got real cut, rough, upset,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just put my head down and started and

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<v Speaker 2>we're next to a brick wall, and I just grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>his head and I went bang on the brick wall

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<v Speaker 2>with his head and he's like tooth chipped, like I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed it and it came out anyway. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>seen him again when I was eighteen, right, and I

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<v Speaker 2>left that school in year four. I didn't see him

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<v Speaker 2>since I seen him again. I was eighteen and I

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<v Speaker 2>already had like a couple of fights, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>lifting and a few people started to know me, and

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<v Speaker 2>he knew me. It came up to me and goes

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<v Speaker 2>like real nervously, It's like, hey, bro, you remember me.

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<v Speaker 2>I go yeah. He goes were sweet? I go, yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>we're sweet and st.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't forget that, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>This job when as soon as I left school.

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<v Speaker 1>Butcher, do you know what you do? Look like a butcher?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You do, like in a good way, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. But you do look like you've worked in

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<v Speaker 1>a butcher like meat.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, I was a butcher. I was doing that

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<v Speaker 2>for a year. Yeah yeah, and then I got fired.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut half my finger off. I wasn't sleeping. I had

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<v Speaker 2>bad sleep happening here from about fifteen to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You lost your job for that? Yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you lost your finger.

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<v Speaker 2>None of us got scared. He is like this console

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<v Speaker 2>ability I got rid of me.

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<v Speaker 1>So what tan't you to like be competing like as

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<v Speaker 1>you did? What? What what made you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what it was was going back to

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<v Speaker 2>what I said I was. I was a scared kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was very scared. I was still the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest kid around, but I was fucking afraid. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like even in footy when there'd be pantrens, like my

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<v Speaker 2>heart would start racing, I'm like, fuck, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anxiety kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not anxiety, but just like fear fear, And as

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<v Speaker 2>you get older, I was just like, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>how you should be. So when I hit about fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of you know, and you start hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with people and you don't always have protection, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>walking around on the streets and shit, and I'm just thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>like you start seeing punch ons and that. I'm just thinking, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to do I need to change this. So

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<v Speaker 2>I started just training boxing in the off season of

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<v Speaker 2>playing rugby, and I just said like, yeah, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to learn how to defend myself. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>feel this way my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say it, so it got above fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>your your your hang on with mates? Are they? What

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<v Speaker 1>are they? They are they sporty mates?

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<v Speaker 2>Sporty?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you kind of wanted to change your ways

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<v Speaker 1>to stay with them in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, because I've pretty much had like three close mates

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<v Speaker 2>growing up. It was about four of us and we

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<v Speaker 2>all played footage together in the same team, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like my couple other mates from school. But

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<v Speaker 2>these are like my boys, you know, still too still

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<v Speaker 2>to today. They're like my close mates, you know. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was just we just you know, played footy together.

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<v Speaker 2>They were always training and then I just started just

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<v Speaker 2>going to the gym with them and yeah, I started

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<v Speaker 2>from there boxing training.

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<v Speaker 1>Already in the gym. Yeah, and then you just thought, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just thought I knew it. I'll start hanging out with them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did they Okay, so you go in the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>When did it start? When did they When did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that? Okay, this is deepe for me. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I want to do now, this is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to push myself to be something now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had my first MMA fight when I was

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen sixteen, yeah, so I hadn't done weights yet, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was just a footed player. And then I was

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<v Speaker 2>training bit of boxing and then I had this fight

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<v Speaker 2>last minute thing and then I had the fight. And

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<v Speaker 2>then after that fight, when I was sixteen, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was on a Saturday night, and then I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Monday was the first time my mate took me

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<v Speaker 2>to the gym, and like my first day in the gym,

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<v Speaker 2>I benched one fuck was it one seventy five or

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<v Speaker 2>one eighty for two first time and there was an

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<v Speaker 2>older boy in the gym, and he was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? You know what I mean? I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was one eighty four plates aside for two raps.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, like the worst technique you've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 2>but but you did you did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't fucking hands on spoiling it. It was me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, legit. And then that's why I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is mad. Everyone was starting to like do these ones

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and my confidence was like fuck great, So

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<v Speaker 2>I just ran with it from there.

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<v Speaker 1>But going back to what you just said down route,

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<v Speaker 1>you did MMA, right, Yeah, you don't like a confrontation.

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<v Speaker 2>So what didn't. But I've been training for maybe six months. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I just I was on the drink one night

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<v Speaker 2>and I was going to go up in corner my

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<v Speaker 2>friend fighting right, and i'd actually fractured my knuckle training

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe six weeks earliest. I didn't train in six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on a drink with my mate and some

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<v Speaker 2>random number card man answered it. And I was on

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<v Speaker 2>a loudspeaking next to one of my best mates and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, hey, mate, blah blah blah, my name's whatever

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<v Speaker 2>from the fight show tomorrow night. Oh, your friend tells

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<v Speaker 2>me you're a big boy. I go, I mean kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was like, say, one hundred and nine kilows.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, do you want to fight? This was the

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<v Speaker 2>next day. I go like, not really, I haven't trained.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of on the piss now. He goes, well, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you he'd be a teenager and it's

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<v Speaker 2>his first fight as well. And then my friend just

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<v Speaker 2>to pear pressure thing, do it you pussy can't? I'm like, fuck, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, yeah, sweet done. Hanged up the phone and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just shooting my pants. I was like, oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>what have I done? Anyway, the next day came, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even going to go, and then at like four o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in Newcastle, So at like four o'clock my

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<v Speaker 2>mates rocked up to my house let's go, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, ah fuck. I was like fuck it all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we drove down and I'm looking around in the

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<v Speaker 2>changing We got there real late, like it should have

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<v Speaker 2>been the probably an hour before, so everyone's already like

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<v Speaker 2>clubbed up, warming up. We got there all late and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking in the back room. There was everyone's warming up.

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<v Speaker 2>In one room. There was like a bullshit curtain, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can see straight through it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and everyone was little, bro, everyone was little, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to scope it up and I'm like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>who if I got? Who have I got? And then

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<v Speaker 2>in the very back corner I see the biggest fucking Samoan,

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<v Speaker 2>big afro. But he was not a teenager. I found

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<v Speaker 2>out later it was thirty years old. Really. It had

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<v Speaker 2>nine fights here. I think he knocked out like eight people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's just throwing bombs on this pad boom, and

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<v Speaker 2>my heart just like I went, oh fuck, he's the

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<v Speaker 2>only big dude in the room. I got this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like this can't I'm not going to run away now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got in now one did it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I stopped him as well, feeling I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go through like being all that nervous. And then did

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<v Speaker 1>you want it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want to fight again after that? Because you yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But I was I was cool for a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I'd done that and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like sweet little box ticked like face to fit

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things, you know, And then I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to start lifting waights for a bit. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was being a little bit naughty at the time, so

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't too focused on training, just a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>weights for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what size you now? Like you you're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to lift weights, You're starting to get your physic Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's stands to shape up. Now you're getting fit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how big are you looking?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I was sixteen when i'd done that fight. I'd never

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<v Speaker 2>lifted weights, and I was the hard am now so

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<v Speaker 2>I was six three and I was one hundred and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Killers And you've got a bit of confidence beyond you now.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a bit of confidence, you know. I can

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<v Speaker 2>knock out a man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, so, so are you now getting provoked

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of like entaste by people now who are

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<v Speaker 1>looking at you going like you know, when when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got someone who's good at what they do

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<v Speaker 1>and they like fighters it now that they're brought in

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<v Speaker 1>by people to use. Were you used by people because

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<v Speaker 1>of your size?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No one tried to bay entaste you to.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of times they tried, but I was still

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<v Speaker 2>pretty like on that from me, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>could kind of see a snake.

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<v Speaker 1>Because someone got size, would be like, fucking let we

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<v Speaker 1>could use him, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got that a lot when I was a

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<v Speaker 2>kid in jail. I got that a lot in jarl.

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<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen, I got that a lot, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but not too much when I was a bit younger

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<v Speaker 2>because I kind of just I didn't allow myself to

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<v Speaker 2>get in those situations. I had my tight group near

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<v Speaker 2>of friends and I've kind of just stayed with the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how are you going before you went to jail?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you any more fights with it?

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<v Speaker 2>With your nor fights?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just basically now you're hitting the weights, hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the ways hard. Yeah, what was your goal? I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have one at that stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just enjoying putting on size and just being

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the strong dude at the local gym. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I liked the attention because I never got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It was a nice feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you end up in jailing? How did

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<v Speaker 1>that come around?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much? Long story shot. Me and my mate too

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<v Speaker 2>kind of always felt like, I guess, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>say the right word for outcasts, like we didn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we're fitting with everyone else, you know, so we'd

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just stick together and you know, as you

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<v Speaker 2>do young kids, you just kind of get up to

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of mischief. Yeah, pretty much. We robbed drug dealer,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was like a home invasion and it was armed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, I wanted to what do you get

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<v Speaker 1>for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Two and a half and then I got out after

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<v Speaker 2>about fifteen months? How did that feel? It was all right? Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>It took a while because I was in for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and then I was on bail for like

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifteen months, and I was on house for rest

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<v Speaker 2>for a bit and then curfew, So it took like

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half years all that. Then I had

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and do another year. Then I got

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<v Speaker 2>out on good behavior parole. So it was bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it wasn't too bad, but from someone of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going from someone who's you know, insecure. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>going into jail. Okay, you've got a bit of size on.

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<v Speaker 1>But were you in control of yourself? Were intimidated? We

0:13:33.401 --> 0:13:35.121
<v Speaker 1>were you? Were you scared or you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, but when you get arrested, you go to police

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<v Speaker 2>station and then that night it's you know, at refuse,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you're going to fucking jail. Yeah, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen and I've never been arrested once, never done do

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. And then you go in that jail truck cufft.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like fuck, it's on, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was nervous the first night, but then you get in

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<v Speaker 2>there and you kind of you learn to go pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you speak to fi older boys, they take

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<v Speaker 2>you under their wing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No incidents inside, No, really, someone your size, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>no incidents inside?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really, Bro. I didn't get involved in drugs in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't disrespect kept yourself, not kept to myself like

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<v Speaker 2>I'd make friends and chat. But you know, look, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not if you don't take shit and you're normal,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be fine, you know what I mean. If you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a weak count and you let someone kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cross that line, you're going to have a rough time.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, for example, if someone tried to stamp

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<v Speaker 2>before their food or something, if you have a crack

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<v Speaker 2>with them, at least the count will respect it. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if you lose, you'll get respected and then it probably

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<v Speaker 2>won't happen again. If you let someone walk all over there,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have a very rough time. So as long

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<v Speaker 2>as you just kind of, you know, defend yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>stand up for yourself and then you don't get involved

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<v Speaker 2>in any drugs in there, should be okay most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>How does your family feel when you win?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were crushed. Yeah I got nice parents. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my mum was very upset. It crushed me. First time

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<v Speaker 2>I seen her and she started crying in the visit.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, fuck, you know, let her down. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside, is that when things started to turm for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you get out you knew what you were

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do, or you still didn't know what

0:15:12.601 --> 0:15:15.401
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do, Like when was it? Then you're

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<v Speaker 1>going I want to be a powerlifter.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was on bail, I forgot off house arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>I started training after work and I met this bloke

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<v Speaker 2>who still to this day is my waistcoach, Sebastian or

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<v Speaker 2>an Australian strength coach. He's the best waits coach in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. So I actually met him when I was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>When after I got out after a few months and

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<v Speaker 2>I was on bail, I started training where he used

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<v Speaker 2>to work, and like I was training with one of

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<v Speaker 2>his friends and I did a deadlift and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like two hundred for like one rep and it was shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it came up to me and he's like

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<v Speaker 2>really intense and he's like, bro, you can do more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, fuck you reckon. He's like fuck yeah, let's go,

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<v Speaker 2>and he started screaming at me when I was doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole gym stopped to watch, and from doing one

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<v Speaker 2>rep like ten minutes later with him screaming in my face,

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<v Speaker 2>I got like seven or eight reps and I was like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>this is hectic. So I was training with him for

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit and then I have to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as soon as I got out, I knew,

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to link up with him and give

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<v Speaker 2>it a crack.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's fine, Okay, So what size he now? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I just did a fast on one hundred and thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was training you? Was it? Was it his

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<v Speaker 1>plan to get you bigger? Or was it you still

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<v Speaker 1>going to want it to be bigger? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like, one eighty one is a fucking big number.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big especially I was young as I was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four at the time, twenty four when I got

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<v Speaker 2>the record.

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<v Speaker 1>Why so fucking like, I know you got to be

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<v Speaker 1>big to lift big, But that's fucking huge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big bro. But mass mis mass?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you die for that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck? Dirty?

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<v Speaker 1>Dirty?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck? Yeah dude? Was it? Oh yeah, bro? Snacking on

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<v Speaker 2>family size pizzas.

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<v Speaker 1>So to tell, So tell me a day for that?

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<v Speaker 1>What you're you're eating? Planned with beef?

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<v Speaker 2>That look pretty much? You know it changed. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have any plan. It's just more calories. Get him in, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>sweet you feel sick? Fuck your now, it's some more chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Get in the calories. Yeah, it wasn't good. It's not healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>but served its purpose and it worked. But pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>i'd wake up, i'd have a fat like masskin a shake.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd drive into it because I was full time patine

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<v Speaker 2>at the JIM I trained out of, so I'd have

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<v Speaker 2>a big maskin of shake in the morning and then

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<v Speaker 2>i'd go in. I'd get like three bacon and egg

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<v Speaker 2>rolls at a cafe and go to work for a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Then i'd go have lunch, you know, a couple burgers,

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<v Speaker 2>and then i'd go and get the family not the block,

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<v Speaker 2>the family sized block of Cadbury chocolate. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>was training cars, sitting down and teaching them how to square,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd just be eating that. I'd polish that, have another shake,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there was a pizza shop there, so I'd

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<v Speaker 2>go and get the family sized pizza for the trip home.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd polish that, and then when I got home, i'd

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<v Speaker 2>have my dinner my missus made me, and then some

0:17:53.961 --> 0:17:56.080
<v Speaker 2>ice cream and finish it off. That's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>rough guide. It was over ten thousand a day, Carls.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Yeah, and I'm ready. I was a training.

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<v Speaker 2>We do once a day, sometimes twice today, probably two

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<v Speaker 2>days a week. I'd trained twice a day, about two

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<v Speaker 2>hour session in the morning, hour and a half at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably about five days a week. Yeah, because when you're

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<v Speaker 2>lift in real heavy you do need a bit more

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<v Speaker 2>recovery time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how a power left would train like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, because me, I go to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym to try and fucking get big with fucking

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever I try and do. What What was

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<v Speaker 1>your training regime for that? Was it just doing deadlifts?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it doing what? What?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Palatin's the sport of performing one rep maximum weight

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<v Speaker 2>of a squat, bench press and a deadlift. So all

0:18:39.441 --> 0:18:41.241
<v Speaker 2>you got to do is get on stage and you're

0:18:41.241 --> 0:18:43.720
<v Speaker 2>doing one rep as heavy as you can squat. You

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<v Speaker 2>get three attempts. So say, for example, my biggest squat

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<v Speaker 2>I performed in competition was four hundred and thirty five killers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd warm up in the back. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>do a couple of sets body weight to try and

0:18:55.241 --> 0:18:58.321
<v Speaker 2>get the blood flowing. Yeah, couple sets barbell to try

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<v Speaker 2>and get the blood flowing. One plate, ten reps, two plates,

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<v Speaker 2>six reps, three plates, three reps, four plates, one rep,

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<v Speaker 2>five plates, one rep, six plates, one rep, seven plates,

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.921
<v Speaker 2>one rep and then whatever your kind of you get

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<v Speaker 2>to about the three hundred and three fifty KO and

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<v Speaker 2>then you've got your plan for the day, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Say all right, today, I'm going to lift three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty for four. So you're taking about ten minute

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<v Speaker 2>breaks in between each set, and then you're just switching

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<v Speaker 2>on for the main set. One main set, four reps.

0:19:32.561 --> 0:19:36.801
<v Speaker 2>Let's fucking go, let's gee up, loud music on everyone watching, everyone,

0:19:37.001 --> 0:19:42.281
<v Speaker 2>giving your energy. You do one set, done, done. I

0:19:42.360 --> 0:19:45.041
<v Speaker 2>used to love one set, but it's a fucking big set.

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<v Speaker 2>And then depending on what you know exercise it is,

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<v Speaker 2>you can come back and do accessories at night, because

0:19:50.481 --> 0:19:52.680
<v Speaker 2>that set takes so much out of you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big set. It's a lot on the nervous system.

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<v Speaker 2>So then, for example, if I just do one set

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<v Speaker 2>of squats, it took me two hours to do one set,

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.321
<v Speaker 2>and I'd come back that night and do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>high rep, lake press, hammi curls, just a little bit

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.561
<v Speaker 2>of accessories to get blood flowing, more body building and stuff,

0:20:08.961 --> 0:20:11.081
<v Speaker 2>you know, But that's kind of the basis. It's two

0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.521
<v Speaker 2>hour sessions and you're not getting many sets in. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So when you only done the powerlest because it

0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.561
<v Speaker 1>says when the strongest man, is that just from what

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing? Or are we doing? Are we doing

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<v Speaker 1>the strongest man?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a power off, that's all I competed.

0:20:26.041 --> 0:20:28.481
<v Speaker 2>I trained a bit of both, but all I competed

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.440
<v Speaker 2>was the power lifting. Okay, yeah, so that was your

0:20:30.481 --> 0:20:32.281
<v Speaker 2>main goal, yeah, to do Oh yeah, yeah, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be when I started, I SI, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be strongest in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>So what year did this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk me into that day, that day that you got it,

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<v Speaker 1>you achieved in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, luckily it was Actually it was the biggest comp

0:20:43.321 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>in the world that year. Luckily for me it was

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<v Speaker 2>in Melbourne, so all the Russians Americans had to fly

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<v Speaker 2>to Australia and just had to go one hour. Yeah,

0:20:49.241 --> 0:20:51.920
<v Speaker 2>so that was a very big advantage, not being in

0:20:51.921 --> 0:20:55.521
<v Speaker 2>a plane for a day. But yeah, I just went

0:20:55.561 --> 0:20:58.521
<v Speaker 2>to Melbourne, had buffet breakfast at the Crown, probably ate

0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:03.961
<v Speaker 2>like twenty pancakes covered in the tower. Felt sick, went

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<v Speaker 2>to the show, Probably had like I used to have

0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.160
<v Speaker 2>these caffeine tablets. I used to abuse them. There was

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<v Speaker 2>one little tablet and there was probably about three coffees

0:21:13.921 --> 0:21:16.761
<v Speaker 2>worth of caffeine and one tablet, so I'd have about

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:20.640
<v Speaker 2>three tablets before each main lift. So that day I

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.441
<v Speaker 2>probably had like the equivalent of like twenty five coffees.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was an aggression lifter, so I used to

0:21:29.441 --> 0:21:33.880
<v Speaker 2>love getting jeered up, high caffeine, high energy, one set,

0:21:34.041 --> 0:21:36.041
<v Speaker 2>like I used to his head, button the bar and

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.761
<v Speaker 2>just you're going to like a fucking evil, hard place.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're committing to it. You're not going in soft.

0:21:42.561 --> 0:21:45.281
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people do, yeah, but each I was

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<v Speaker 2>an aggression lifter, so I used to love getting high energy,

0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 2>high intensity. My coach is high energy. Used to smack

0:21:52.321 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 2>me in the head, smack me in the back. I've

0:21:54.001 --> 0:21:57.041
<v Speaker 2>seen them do so yeah, and it worked, Yeah, it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you Who was the Australians stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>Del Manual big Lander from Queensland. He had the record

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<v Speaker 2>for about.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten years, so that day you took it from him.

0:22:05.721 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I took his record. Yet so it's based off the total.

0:22:08.201 --> 0:22:11.041
<v Speaker 2>So the biggest squat you do, the biggest bench press

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 2>you do, the biggest deadlift you do, you add up

0:22:13.281 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the numbers and you get your total biggest total wins? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how did that feel?

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.680
<v Speaker 2>It was? It was a relief. I wanted it for

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<v Speaker 2>so long and I had a really hard prep because

0:22:23.001 --> 0:22:25.561
<v Speaker 2>I was so big. I couldn't sleep. So I was like,

0:22:25.721 --> 0:22:29.401
<v Speaker 2>it was fucking ten hard weeks, bro of a anxiety.

0:22:29.481 --> 0:22:31.801
<v Speaker 2>You're going to sleep every night thinking like I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to die because I cannot get airing because my face

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:38.881
<v Speaker 2>and shoulders and neck is that big and bloated. It's yeah,

0:22:38.921 --> 0:22:40.761
<v Speaker 2>it was tough. It was just a sign of like,

0:22:40.961 --> 0:22:42.961
<v Speaker 2>thank fuck, that's done. I flew the time end the

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<v Speaker 2>next day just to start sweating and dropping weight. Oh

0:22:45.921 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 2>so straight straight after you want to drop the weight? Yeah? Bro, yeah,

0:22:49.241 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I could not be that way for very long. It

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<v Speaker 2>was very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the last time you ever did? That? Was

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<v Speaker 1>my last come? I got my record and I said

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm satisfied.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it. That was it? Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you didn't want to carry on?

0:23:00.001 --> 0:23:03.801
<v Speaker 2>No, no, fuck down on to fight and drop weight?

0:23:03.921 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.241
<v Speaker 2>Sleep and get healthier. Okay, Yeah, being that way as

0:23:08.321 --> 0:23:11.521
<v Speaker 2>it's not good? So has anyone broken that yet? So

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the blog that I beat, he came back and he got.

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<v Speaker 1>It again, you know, doesn't make you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it again.

0:23:17.120 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 2>No, I beat him.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, you know, so then you moved on to what

0:23:25.441 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>what did you want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm focusing on the fighting, you know, So what boxing?

0:23:29.761 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I like? MMA. I'm going to stick Tom. I've had

0:23:33.001 --> 0:23:35.921
<v Speaker 2>fights in boxing, kickboxing, mm I've had nine altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bring up the boxing fast because I found something

0:23:38.041 --> 0:23:41.201
<v Speaker 1>on Google about this, okay, and it was a big

0:23:41.321 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>controversial what happened in that fight? Which one you got disqualified? Oh?

0:23:45.721 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that ship.

0:23:48.001 --> 0:23:49.481
<v Speaker 1>I looked at it and I just went, what the fuck?

0:23:49.521 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And I read up on it and then okay.

0:23:51.360 --> 0:23:54.561
<v Speaker 2>That's a ship fires awkward. But now I hit him

0:23:54.561 --> 0:23:56.281
<v Speaker 2>with a big shot. He went back into the ropes,

0:23:56.921 --> 0:23:59.161
<v Speaker 2>and then I just went for a big caveman swing

0:23:59.561 --> 0:24:01.120
<v Speaker 2>and he was grabbing me the whole fight. Hit and

0:24:01.120 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 2>just grabbed me. He was the mm A fighter too, okay,

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.001
<v Speaker 2>So it was just like it was an ugly box.

0:24:05.321 --> 0:24:08.801
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing sweet science about it. But you just kept

0:24:08.801 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>grabbing me and obviously not meant it in boxing. And

0:24:12.001 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 2>then I hit him. He went back against the ropes.

0:24:13.921 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I threw a big swing and he all came under

0:24:16.120 --> 0:24:18.801
<v Speaker 2>me like rugby tackle and I almost went down. And

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it was the second round, but he'd grabbed me like

0:24:20.921 --> 0:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>ten times, and I just like I almost went off balance.

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:25.241
<v Speaker 2>So I just thought, fuck this. So I just ankle

0:24:25.281 --> 0:24:28.561
<v Speaker 2>tripped him, pretty much like pretty much, don't fucking grab me,

0:24:28.961 --> 0:24:31.521
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So I just ankle tripped him.

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.521
<v Speaker 2>And because we trained MMA, when you trip someone, you

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 2>hit him on the ground, it's just drew it in.

0:24:37.201 --> 0:24:39.921
<v Speaker 2>So I ankle fucking picked him and he fell down

0:24:39.961 --> 0:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and then I like, I threw it, but I pulled back.

0:24:43.681 --> 0:24:45.721
<v Speaker 2>I pulled back. I didn't hit him on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the foot I can show after.

0:24:49.041 --> 0:24:51.281
<v Speaker 2>But they said I hit him on the ground, and

0:24:51.321 --> 0:24:53.160
<v Speaker 2>they said not, you hit the coun on the ground

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.721
<v Speaker 2>and you're the square fight. But I didn't, And props

0:24:55.721 --> 0:24:57.721
<v Speaker 2>to the opponent straight away he said, no, he didn't

0:24:57.761 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 2>hit me, but the ref's lot idea. So they sacked me.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So it was that your last fight that you

0:25:03.561 --> 0:25:05.961
<v Speaker 1>had them boxing. But just as you before, boxing is

0:25:06.041 --> 0:25:07.761
<v Speaker 1>just not for you, but you prefer MM Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a couple, but I'm not. I'm not a

0:25:10.481 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 2>school for boxer. I'm not.

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You're more like a brawler.

0:25:14.761 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm a brawler. B Yeah, I got decent kicks. I

0:25:20.001 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 2>want to wrestle someone pick him up.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a question I have. Why wouldn't you go into wrestling, Like,

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you go and try and get like a

0:25:29.360 --> 0:25:30.321
<v Speaker 1>contract overseas.

0:25:30.360 --> 0:25:33.561
<v Speaker 2>I got asked in twenty fifteen if I want to

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.321
<v Speaker 2>go to I think it's in Orlando. I think in

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Florida ww A headquarters. I got asked there was a

0:25:40.281 --> 0:25:43.041
<v Speaker 2>mutual link and someone there contacted me. I think he

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>started seeing some of my powerffs and videos and I

0:25:45.360 --> 0:25:47.321
<v Speaker 2>just used to get angry and head butt shit. And

0:25:47.441 --> 0:25:49.761
<v Speaker 2>I was a tank and so he would have seen

0:25:49.801 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 2>those videos that were doing the rounds at the time.

0:25:51.961 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 2>And I got asked, He's like, do you want to

0:25:53.201 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>do a trial? And I was still on parole at

0:25:56.001 --> 0:25:57.921
<v Speaker 2>the time, and America get in in.

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.201
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't have got in, nah, So did you tell

0:26:01.241 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>them that?

0:26:02.120 --> 0:26:04.961
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they wanted to try and pull strings

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.441
<v Speaker 2>or like a not a certainty, you know. Yeah, if

0:26:08.441 --> 0:26:11.121
<v Speaker 2>there was like a done deal, I think they could

0:26:11.120 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 2>have got me in. Yeah, but just to have a tryout,

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's going to take a while and expensive

0:26:17.721 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 2>legal bills and shit. Yea, so nah, but yeah, I

0:26:21.201 --> 0:26:22.481
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to so.

0:26:22.481 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so now you're concentrating on MMA UFC kind of thing.

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.961
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd like to make the UFC. That's my nextest weight.

0:26:30.241 --> 0:26:33.561
<v Speaker 2>So the heavyweight limit in UFC's one hundred and twenty kilos.

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 2>What the fuck heavyweight limit.

0:26:35.761 --> 0:26:36.521
<v Speaker 1>That's a big drop.

0:26:36.721 --> 0:26:39.561
<v Speaker 2>MA can't brockles they were in at one twenty. That's

0:26:39.561 --> 0:26:42.041
<v Speaker 2>a big, big drop, bro. But I'm kind of wait now,

0:26:42.041 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and that's the reason.

0:26:43.041 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>So so you will drop that.

0:26:45.041 --> 0:26:46.921
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try. I'm going to try and get

0:26:46.921 --> 0:26:49.121
<v Speaker 2>active this year, get a few wins, and hopefully get in.

0:26:49.241 --> 0:26:50.801
<v Speaker 2>So I look at this way, if I can get

0:26:50.801 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 2>to about I'm one thirty nine now, if I can

0:26:53.241 --> 0:26:56.001
<v Speaker 2>get to about one thirty four one thirty five, say,

0:26:56.321 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's my new kind of normal weight, which I

0:26:58.360 --> 0:27:01.441
<v Speaker 2>can drop another five off this frame. If I can

0:27:01.481 --> 0:27:04.721
<v Speaker 2>have say, eight weeks notice for a camp for a fight.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.801
<v Speaker 2>You want to find eight weeks you have, sweet, you

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 2>drop about one to zero point a zero point seven

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.961
<v Speaker 2>a week for that time, So you're going hungry. Yeah,

0:27:14.001 --> 0:27:16.201
<v Speaker 2>and then the week of the fight with a water cut,

0:27:16.201 --> 0:27:18.001
<v Speaker 2>I can do it. You know, it'll be hard, it

0:27:18.001 --> 0:27:20.481
<v Speaker 2>won't be the best thing, but everyone cuts weight with water,

0:27:20.921 --> 0:27:23.601
<v Speaker 2>so especially at a heavier frame, I could drop you know,

0:27:24.001 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>eight to ten. So a lot of people drop eight

0:27:26.961 --> 0:27:29.561
<v Speaker 2>kilos in water a lot lighter, so it is doable.

0:27:30.001 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>But you think the fighting scene in Australia for this

0:27:33.321 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of what you're doing has got it, Like don't

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.481
<v Speaker 1>you have to go overseas to America if you want

0:27:39.481 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to make it in this sport?

0:27:40.521 --> 0:27:40.721
<v Speaker 4>Nah?

0:27:40.921 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of boys start in Australia and if

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>they can just get a few good wins on you know,

0:27:46.001 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the local circuit, yeah, they can get picked up, especially

0:27:49.120 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>me because I kind of got a little following and

0:27:51.521 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>a marketable my size tatoos. So like, for example, if

0:27:55.521 --> 0:27:57.761
<v Speaker 2>I can knock out three dudes this year, I'm sure

0:27:57.801 --> 0:28:01.321
<v Speaker 2>I'll get in. You know, videos go around quickly, you know.

0:28:01.721 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So that's your goal, that's my goal. Now, I'd love

0:28:04.521 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 2>to make your So.

0:28:05.761 --> 0:28:09.041
<v Speaker 1>My main concern, like one hundred and twenty kilos.

0:28:09.201 --> 0:28:09.841
<v Speaker 2>It's a big job.

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:10.841
<v Speaker 1>It's a fucking huge job.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.441
<v Speaker 2>Big job, and I lose a lot of what I got,

0:28:12.441 --> 0:28:13.441
<v Speaker 2>which is power.

0:28:13.281 --> 0:28:15.681
<v Speaker 1>And all I've ever seen in the view is massive. Yeah,

0:28:15.801 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like I know that's one hundred and twenty is still big,

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.481
<v Speaker 1>like you know for people, but not not for someone

0:28:19.521 --> 0:28:22.761
<v Speaker 1>like you. For that's like that's like saying, like for

0:28:22.801 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a normal person like me, if I got eighty kilos.

0:28:24.801 --> 0:28:26.801
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the last time I was one hundred and twenty,

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 2>it was sixteens old. Now I'm merely thirty, you know. Yeah.

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's what I want to do. It's my sport.

0:28:36.241 --> 0:28:38.041
<v Speaker 1>Is it is what it is, Bro, I'll try and

0:28:38.041 --> 0:28:40.681
<v Speaker 1>get it done. Is there all planned out? Because I

0:28:40.721 --> 0:28:42.721
<v Speaker 1>know you've got to fight. You had my message a

0:28:42.721 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago about the fight that we supposed

0:28:44.521 --> 0:28:44.761
<v Speaker 1>to have to a.

0:28:44.761 --> 0:28:46.521
<v Speaker 2>Hopper and just pulled it out two days ago.

0:28:46.841 --> 0:28:47.641
<v Speaker 1>He's just pulled out.

0:28:47.961 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think he pulled out. I think he

0:28:50.361 --> 0:28:51.161
<v Speaker 2>just asked for like.

0:28:51.321 --> 0:28:53.721
<v Speaker 1>Just the second time. Now it's been now it was.

0:28:53.641 --> 0:28:55.801
<v Speaker 2>Postponed the first time, and now it was it's booked

0:28:55.801 --> 0:28:58.241
<v Speaker 2>in for April fifth. But the promoter messaged me two

0:28:58.281 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>days ago saying he's out. He tried to like hit

0:29:00.801 --> 0:29:03.001
<v Speaker 2>him up for way more money, so I think he

0:29:04.241 --> 0:29:06.721
<v Speaker 2>I think it was more he's seen twice to himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's seeing he's fighting myself.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's hard. Can he'll fight anyone. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bit disappointing, but I'll get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you going to do now? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Now we'll get a match. So I just keep training,

0:29:17.721 --> 0:29:20.561
<v Speaker 2>keep dropping a weight. Knock on wood, we don't get injured,

0:29:21.281 --> 0:29:23.041
<v Speaker 2>and let's sit, bro, we'll get back in there.

0:29:23.521 --> 0:29:25.721
<v Speaker 1>What do you want to achieve in twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>For you? By my birthdays in December. By December, if

0:29:28.921 --> 0:29:31.241
<v Speaker 2>fucking get signed to the UFC, that would be a

0:29:31.281 --> 0:29:33.801
<v Speaker 2>lifelong dream of mine. You know. I want to keep

0:29:33.841 --> 0:29:38.121
<v Speaker 2>improving my mental strength, my mental health, all that shit.

0:29:38.161 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm very passionate about now at this stage of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and fucking drop the weight, get active with the fighting being.

0:29:44.761 --> 0:29:48.121
<v Speaker 2>I've had a bad, bad run of injuries, like really bad,

0:29:48.201 --> 0:29:51.481
<v Speaker 2>you're west injury that you've had. Oh, Bro, I had

0:29:51.481 --> 0:29:55.361
<v Speaker 2>a boxing fight. Ten seconds into the fight, I disslocated

0:29:55.361 --> 0:29:57.761
<v Speaker 2>my sholder ten seconds in the first round. It was

0:29:57.761 --> 0:29:59.801
<v Speaker 2>this big island who's one hundred and sevent The killers

0:30:00.001 --> 0:30:01.641
<v Speaker 2>hit him hard and he came on me, helped me.

0:30:02.041 --> 0:30:04.161
<v Speaker 2>I pushed him off my hard. My shoulder went out.

0:30:04.441 --> 0:30:06.961
<v Speaker 2>So had to fight two rounds with a dangling shoulder,

0:30:07.601 --> 0:30:09.361
<v Speaker 2>and then I went to the hospital. Was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>yank it back into place for like two hours. Couldn't

0:30:12.561 --> 0:30:15.081
<v Speaker 2>get it in. They knocked me out, put me on ketamene.

0:30:15.161 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Finally got it in and then I have to come

0:30:17.481 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>back to Sydney. I still couldn't move my arm, so

0:30:19.361 --> 0:30:22.681
<v Speaker 2>I'd torn heaps of ships. Had another surgery that's probably

0:30:22.681 --> 0:30:27.401
<v Speaker 2>the worst one. Torn both biceps off the bone, right shoulder,

0:30:27.441 --> 0:30:34.081
<v Speaker 2>front and back, calf ankle twice. No ligaman in my knee.

0:30:34.121 --> 0:30:36.761
<v Speaker 2>I've had a few bro bulging this low back neck.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ, I'm in pain. But just keep training, Just

0:30:41.961 --> 0:30:45.281
<v Speaker 4>keep going. Any regrets in your life, na, they learned

0:30:45.281 --> 0:30:48.681
<v Speaker 4>from it, Bro. You just learn from it. Yeah, you

0:30:48.721 --> 0:30:49.921
<v Speaker 4>just learn from it. Is what it is.

0:30:49.961 --> 0:30:52.641
<v Speaker 2>You can't turn back time, so just try to make

0:30:52.641 --> 0:30:55.561
<v Speaker 2>the best of it, learn the lesson and move forward.

0:30:56.321 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>What would you what would you? What would you describe you?

0:30:58.281 --> 0:30:59.121
<v Speaker 1>In two wards?

0:30:59.801 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>You know what? Honestly this will surprise you. I'm a

0:31:03.441 --> 0:31:08.641
<v Speaker 2>big EmPATH. Yeah, yeah, big time. I feel a lot. Wow, Yeah,

0:31:09.001 --> 0:31:11.041
<v Speaker 2>I feel a lot. Bro. I'm going to do a

0:31:11.081 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff in the mental health mental strength area

0:31:15.681 --> 0:31:16.521
<v Speaker 2>as I go forward.

0:31:16.601 --> 0:31:19.041
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you like, do you like helping kids and all

0:31:19.081 --> 0:31:19.361
<v Speaker 1>like that?

0:31:19.641 --> 0:31:25.361
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bro, I do juvenile like mentoring. It's important work,

0:31:25.641 --> 0:31:29.081
<v Speaker 2>all the good ship you know should do. I'm into it, bro. Yeah,

0:31:29.241 --> 0:31:32.361
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a sweet kid. I'm a sweet guy. I

0:31:32.401 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>am a gentle giant. You know. Obviously I can if

0:31:35.761 --> 0:31:38.001
<v Speaker 2>you switch on if I need to. I don't want to,

0:31:38.161 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>but if I need to. That's what I kind of

0:31:40.321 --> 0:31:43.481
<v Speaker 2>trained for my life, just to keep myself safe, you know,

0:31:43.521 --> 0:31:46.521
<v Speaker 2>I mean, protect myself. But I'm a sweet guy. You know,

0:31:46.521 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I've got a gentle heart. So I really want to

0:31:49.441 --> 0:31:53.081
<v Speaker 2>try and be, as you said, quite a beast, but

0:31:53.561 --> 0:31:56.161
<v Speaker 2>help people and humble and you know what I mean.

0:31:56.241 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Because you knew what it was like when you were

0:31:57.481 --> 0:31:58.241
<v Speaker 1>a kid. Yeah.

0:31:58.281 --> 0:32:00.841
<v Speaker 2>Correct, that's right. I've been on both sides, you know.

0:32:01.481 --> 0:32:05.681
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm a i'd say i'm an EmPATH. Well yeah,

0:32:05.721 --> 0:32:06.601
<v Speaker 2>that's a good one.

0:32:06.521 --> 0:32:06.681
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:06.721 --> 0:32:11.201
<v Speaker 2>I like that, you know what, Bro.

0:32:11.521 --> 0:32:15.681
<v Speaker 1>I love that, you know, because this interview was fucking good.

0:32:15.801 --> 0:32:19.481
<v Speaker 1>And the fact is you're very humble guy.

0:32:19.561 --> 0:32:19.721
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

0:32:20.041 --> 0:32:22.401
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bro, like I got like if I if I

0:32:22.441 --> 0:32:25.881
<v Speaker 1>didn't know when I first met you, like I found it.

0:32:26.201 --> 0:32:28.281
<v Speaker 1>I didn't find it hard to talk to you. But

0:32:28.321 --> 0:32:31.401
<v Speaker 1>you've got to stand offish proana about you, do you think? So, yeah,

0:32:31.441 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>there's unless you get to know the person. It's like

0:32:34.481 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you get you have to you have to trust that

0:32:36.281 --> 0:32:39.321
<v Speaker 1>person first before you'll open up to that person fair enough.

0:32:39.201 --> 0:32:40.761
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, Like kind of keep to myself.

0:32:40.801 --> 0:32:44.441
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you're private, but you're also how can

0:32:44.441 --> 0:32:48.081
<v Speaker 1>I say you you srust people out before you want

0:32:48.081 --> 0:32:50.401
<v Speaker 1>to open up a bit more to them, you know

0:32:50.441 --> 0:32:50.801
<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

0:32:50.921 --> 0:32:53.481
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes, especially if I'm not closed back.

0:32:53.361 --> 0:32:55.841
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. But like, and I know that,

0:32:56.121 --> 0:32:57.601
<v Speaker 1>as I said, when we were there, there was other

0:32:57.641 --> 0:33:00.121
<v Speaker 1>people there, so it's a bit different. But as I've

0:33:00.121 --> 0:33:03.321
<v Speaker 1>got to know you since then, like I've seen you

0:33:03.361 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and even on your videos too, that you you are.

0:33:05.641 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>You're a very humble guy.

0:33:06.641 --> 0:33:09.921
<v Speaker 2>Mate. Yeah, bro, Like I'm just being myself. You know,

0:33:10.041 --> 0:33:13.121
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to impress anyone. Like whatever someone thinks

0:33:13.161 --> 0:33:14.921
<v Speaker 2>to me, I don't know, it's not my business. I

0:33:14.961 --> 0:33:16.881
<v Speaker 2>don't care. I am who I am. I'm a dad,

0:33:17.041 --> 0:33:19.321
<v Speaker 2>I'm a good dad. I'm a sweet guy, you know

0:33:19.361 --> 0:33:22.041
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I'm trying to make my dreams as

0:33:22.041 --> 0:33:24.761
<v Speaker 2>a fighter. I was a strong man. Blah blah Blahlah.

0:33:24.761 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I am who I am. I'm a good person. I've

0:33:26.281 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>got a good heart. And I'll just tell it how

0:33:28.521 --> 0:33:30.401
<v Speaker 1>it is. You think you'll ever do barlifting again?

0:33:31.121 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe one day when I retire from fighting, if I

0:33:33.201 --> 0:33:36.361
<v Speaker 2>can achieve my fighting dreams, I'll get jacked again. So yeah,

0:33:36.441 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I still love it. It's in my blood and it

0:33:38.481 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 2>will take me like twelve weeks because you look.

0:33:41.361 --> 0:33:45.841
<v Speaker 1>Like who wants that title back again? Or you just

0:33:45.881 --> 0:33:47.001
<v Speaker 1>want to do it for the fun of it, the

0:33:47.041 --> 0:33:47.361
<v Speaker 1>love of it.

0:33:47.441 --> 0:33:48.921
<v Speaker 2>Probably the love of it. I don't know if I

0:33:48.921 --> 0:33:50.641
<v Speaker 2>want to get that big again.

0:33:50.641 --> 0:33:52.281
<v Speaker 1>Specially you need to get that big again to get

0:33:52.281 --> 0:33:52.601
<v Speaker 1>that title.

0:33:52.721 --> 0:33:55.001
<v Speaker 2>Probably not. I think I'm more of a technician now.

0:33:55.641 --> 0:33:56.761
<v Speaker 2>You know then I was. Back then it was a

0:33:56.761 --> 0:33:59.721
<v Speaker 2>bit more brute strength. Now I'm a lot more technical,

0:34:00.321 --> 0:34:03.201
<v Speaker 2>which helps. I need to get heavy, but I don't

0:34:03.201 --> 0:34:05.521
<v Speaker 2>think I need to get that heavy again. We'll say,

0:34:06.401 --> 0:34:08.801
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I will compay it again, but I don't

0:34:08.801 --> 0:34:11.361
<v Speaker 2>think strong man like the strong man competition. I love

0:34:11.441 --> 0:34:11.761
<v Speaker 2>that ship.

0:34:11.761 --> 0:34:12.281
<v Speaker 1>Would you do that?

0:34:12.361 --> 0:34:12.961
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I would?

0:34:13.161 --> 0:34:14.841
<v Speaker 1>That's see. I can see you doing that me too,

0:34:15.161 --> 0:34:16.561
<v Speaker 1>but then again you've got to put those hounds on

0:34:16.561 --> 0:34:16.921
<v Speaker 1>it again.

0:34:17.041 --> 0:34:19.761
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't look I wouldn't be as as heavy

0:34:19.841 --> 0:34:22.001
<v Speaker 2>or as fat as I was because I do care

0:34:22.001 --> 0:34:23.721
<v Speaker 2>about my health. You know, I've got young kids. I

0:34:23.761 --> 0:34:27.001
<v Speaker 2>want to be healthy for them. But I do love

0:34:27.041 --> 0:34:29.721
<v Speaker 2>it bro being big and strong and jack. It's good man,

0:34:29.761 --> 0:34:32.561
<v Speaker 2>it's fucking great. It's great, and I love it, and

0:34:32.601 --> 0:34:35.281
<v Speaker 2>it's in my blood. You know. It's very easy for

0:34:35.281 --> 0:34:37.841
<v Speaker 2>me to get strong and it's a nice feeling. So

0:34:38.041 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>one day I'll be back.

0:34:39.841 --> 0:34:42.481
<v Speaker 1>Thanks man, Thank you, b Yeah, thanks for having me

0:34:42.521 --> 0:34:43.241
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it.