1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:12,921 Speaker 1: Approche Production. Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am 2 00:00:13,001 --> 00:00:17,761 Speaker 1: Neil the Muscle comments and in this episode I speak 3 00:00:17,801 --> 00:00:20,401 Speaker 1: with Alex Simon form what Australian strong man? 4 00:00:21,321 --> 00:00:24,921 Speaker 2: You're going to like a fucking evil hard place here. 5 00:00:24,961 --> 00:00:27,281 Speaker 2: You're committing to it. I'll tell you a story. I 6 00:00:27,321 --> 00:00:30,281 Speaker 2: don't think I said this publicly. Actually it was over 7 00:00:30,321 --> 00:00:32,841 Speaker 2: ten thousand a day cows the last time I was 8 00:00:32,841 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty. It was sixteen years old. It's 9 00:00:35,521 --> 00:00:39,841 Speaker 2: a big bro, but mass miss mass Oh, yeah, bro 10 00:00:40,001 --> 00:00:45,001 Speaker 2: snacking on family size pizzas. That's my god. Now, i'd 11 00:00:45,001 --> 00:00:48,841 Speaker 2: love to make you say. 12 00:00:50,361 --> 00:00:57,921 Speaker 3: Alex Simon recognized as the strongest Australian in history, I'm 13 00:00:57,921 --> 00:00:59,241 Speaker 3: the third strongest in the world. 14 00:00:59,321 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Is that true? A few years ago? 15 00:01:01,241 --> 00:01:01,641 Speaker 1: It is true? 16 00:01:01,681 --> 00:01:05,601 Speaker 2: Not anymore, I would say if fucking skinny vote. 17 00:01:05,641 --> 00:01:08,081 Speaker 1: I feel before we get into like everything about you, 18 00:01:08,281 --> 00:01:10,121 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this off first. And I don't 19 00:01:10,161 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: usually do with this with guess one hundred and seventy kilos, Like, 20 00:01:16,161 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: what the fuck that natural? 21 00:01:18,081 --> 00:01:18,921 Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty one. 22 00:01:20,161 --> 00:01:24,401 Speaker 1: That's so, that's that Google is fucked up? Yeah, inaccurate 23 00:01:24,681 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty one. 24 00:01:25,681 --> 00:01:27,241 Speaker 2: When I want to try this trunks. Man, I weighed 25 00:01:27,241 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty one killers on the day. Yeah, 26 00:01:29,681 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: four hundred pounds, what the fuck? 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still got like the biggest that being is 28 00:01:34,321 --> 00:01:35,521 Speaker 1: one thirty six. 29 00:01:35,961 --> 00:01:40,281 Speaker 2: Had one feel skinny at one thirty six? Yeah, I 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,401 Speaker 2: felt skinny and I wanted to get You're going to 31 00:01:42,441 --> 00:01:43,321 Speaker 2: say for fucked. 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,321 Speaker 1: No, I felt too skinny because I get used to 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: with me if if I if I put on the size, 34 00:01:49,961 --> 00:01:53,641 Speaker 1: when I get used to that size, I then feel shit, 35 00:01:53,761 --> 00:01:54,521 Speaker 1: I need to get more. 36 00:01:54,721 --> 00:01:56,041 Speaker 2: Gotcha, you know what I mean. 37 00:01:56,401 --> 00:01:59,041 Speaker 1: And I've never found I've never found my my size 38 00:01:59,041 --> 00:02:01,641 Speaker 1: that I want to be. I mean no, I've never 39 00:02:01,681 --> 00:02:03,561 Speaker 1: found it because like if I get on put it 40 00:02:03,561 --> 00:02:06,081 Speaker 1: this way, if I get on the once twenty five, yeah, 41 00:02:06,401 --> 00:02:12,681 Speaker 1: I'm fucked. I'm having a nightment. I'm depressed. If I 42 00:02:12,681 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: can keep myself one thirty, yeah, I'm cool, gotcha. If 43 00:02:15,841 --> 00:02:18,201 Speaker 1: I can get up more, Like my goal was to 44 00:02:18,281 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: be one forty, I could never get there. It was 45 00:02:19,841 --> 00:02:23,441 Speaker 1: one thirty seven about that, okay, but one fucking what 46 00:02:23,601 --> 00:02:24,041 Speaker 1: edie one. 47 00:02:24,081 --> 00:02:28,681 Speaker 2: One one killers, four hundred pounds, that's my biggest natural 48 00:02:29,321 --> 00:02:30,801 Speaker 2: of course? Not what? 49 00:02:31,201 --> 00:02:33,361 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk about you growing off first, 50 00:02:33,401 --> 00:02:35,321 Speaker 1: we'll go back to that. Done, all right, tell me 51 00:02:35,361 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: about you as a person growing up and no like. 52 00:02:38,921 --> 00:02:41,881 Speaker 2: Fuck me dead. I'm born and raised in Sydney, from 53 00:02:41,921 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: the northwest, so around Castle Hill area. Grew up around there, 54 00:02:45,401 --> 00:02:48,881 Speaker 2: normal childhood, played rugby league my whole life, A couple 55 00:02:48,921 --> 00:02:49,721 Speaker 2: of close mates. 56 00:02:50,321 --> 00:02:52,001 Speaker 1: When do you say, right, you played rugby league? Did 57 00:02:52,041 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: you actually like? Were you playing? Nah? 58 00:02:54,441 --> 00:02:57,201 Speaker 2: I didn't end up playing first grade or anything. I was. 59 00:02:57,481 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: I was descent. I was talented, but just very lazy. 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: When I was young, I was fat, so I didn't 61 00:03:02,041 --> 00:03:03,081 Speaker 2: like doing any hard work. 62 00:03:03,121 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: You know. 63 00:03:03,321 --> 00:03:05,881 Speaker 2: I was explosive and obviously I had big eyes, but 64 00:03:06,001 --> 00:03:07,441 Speaker 2: I never put it you see fat? What do you 65 00:03:07,441 --> 00:03:09,281 Speaker 2: mean by fat? No, I was a big kid. I 66 00:03:09,321 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: was a big fat built but still I was fat. 67 00:03:12,201 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: I was a fatty Oh yeah, I was a little 68 00:03:14,201 --> 00:03:17,921 Speaker 2: fat ALEX schooling Yeah, just normal, jumped out your ten, 69 00:03:19,401 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: No issues, really suspended a couple of times, just a 70 00:03:22,001 --> 00:03:25,081 Speaker 2: bit silly, yeah, nothing crazy, bro, But no. I was 71 00:03:25,081 --> 00:03:28,841 Speaker 2: a good kid, very quiet, you know, very quiet. Didn't 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: like confrontation when I was young, very scared of it, 73 00:03:32,081 --> 00:03:35,561 Speaker 2: you know, very scared. Yeah, I didn't like confrontation at all. 74 00:03:35,761 --> 00:03:39,841 Speaker 2: Hated it. That's why I kind of started getting on, 75 00:03:40,121 --> 00:03:41,321 Speaker 2: you know, putting on size. 76 00:03:41,361 --> 00:03:45,041 Speaker 1: And it's not like confrontation changed their ways when they 77 00:03:45,041 --> 00:03:45,521 Speaker 1: get older. 78 00:03:45,761 --> 00:03:47,721 Speaker 2: You just don't want to be a victim. Bro. You 79 00:03:47,801 --> 00:03:50,641 Speaker 2: got to learn to protect you as a kid. Yeah, 80 00:03:50,641 --> 00:03:53,241 Speaker 2: when I was young, When I was young for being fat. 81 00:03:54,201 --> 00:03:56,201 Speaker 2: There's just one kid. He just kept bullying me in 82 00:03:56,241 --> 00:04:01,401 Speaker 2: primary school. You ever see him since, I'll tell you 83 00:04:01,441 --> 00:04:03,881 Speaker 2: a story. I don't think I said this publicly actually, 84 00:04:04,361 --> 00:04:06,881 Speaker 2: but anyway, Fuck, what's year too? How old are in 85 00:04:06,921 --> 00:04:07,321 Speaker 2: year two? 86 00:04:08,681 --> 00:04:08,921 Speaker 4: Shit? 87 00:04:08,961 --> 00:04:11,801 Speaker 2: I don't know whatever it was, but he kept bullying me. 88 00:04:11,921 --> 00:04:13,241 Speaker 2: And it was a little girl I had a crush 89 00:04:13,241 --> 00:04:16,841 Speaker 2: on and she was my friend ready and then he 90 00:04:16,881 --> 00:04:19,521 Speaker 2: was bullying me for months months his camp and he 91 00:04:19,681 --> 00:04:21,281 Speaker 2: used to come up to me and I was chatting 92 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,241 Speaker 2: to this chick I had a crush on. I was. 93 00:04:23,481 --> 00:04:25,401 Speaker 2: I was eight years old or something, and he just 94 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,521 Speaker 2: started calling me I forgot. It was like fatty fady, 95 00:04:27,561 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: bumba or some ship, you know what I mean, in 96 00:04:29,481 --> 00:04:31,681 Speaker 2: front of her, and I got real cut, rough, upset, 97 00:04:31,721 --> 00:04:34,001 Speaker 2: and I just put my head down and started and 98 00:04:34,081 --> 00:04:36,001 Speaker 2: we're next to a brick wall, and I just grabbed 99 00:04:36,001 --> 00:04:38,041 Speaker 2: his head and I went bang on the brick wall 100 00:04:38,121 --> 00:04:41,281 Speaker 2: with his head and he's like tooth chipped, like I 101 00:04:41,361 --> 00:04:43,801 Speaker 2: noticed it and it came out anyway. And then I 102 00:04:43,841 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: seen him again when I was eighteen, right, and I 103 00:04:47,601 --> 00:04:49,321 Speaker 2: left that school in year four. I didn't see him 104 00:04:49,361 --> 00:04:51,641 Speaker 2: since I seen him again. I was eighteen and I 105 00:04:51,721 --> 00:04:53,241 Speaker 2: already had like a couple of fights, and I was 106 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,921 Speaker 2: lifting and a few people started to know me, and 107 00:04:55,961 --> 00:04:57,281 Speaker 2: he knew me. It came up to me and goes 108 00:04:57,401 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: like real nervously, It's like, hey, bro, you remember me. 109 00:04:59,481 --> 00:05:01,881 Speaker 2: I go yeah. He goes were sweet? I go, yeah, bro, 110 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,881 Speaker 2: we're sweet and st. 111 00:05:05,041 --> 00:05:07,601 Speaker 1: I didn't forget that, Oh my god. 112 00:05:07,841 --> 00:05:09,681 Speaker 2: This job when as soon as I left school. 113 00:05:09,681 --> 00:05:12,161 Speaker 1: Butcher, do you know what you do? Look like a butcher? 114 00:05:12,801 --> 00:05:13,041 Speaker 2: Yeah? 115 00:05:13,081 --> 00:05:15,441 Speaker 1: You do, like in a good way, you know what 116 00:05:15,481 --> 00:05:17,001 Speaker 1: I mean. But you do look like you've worked in 117 00:05:17,001 --> 00:05:18,481 Speaker 1: a butcher like meat. 118 00:05:18,561 --> 00:05:20,681 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I was a butcher. I was doing that 119 00:05:20,721 --> 00:05:23,521 Speaker 2: for a year. Yeah yeah, and then I got fired. 120 00:05:24,241 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: Like I. 121 00:05:29,081 --> 00:05:31,201 Speaker 2: Cut half my finger off. I wasn't sleeping. I had 122 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: bad sleep happening here from about fifteen to eighteen. 123 00:05:33,801 --> 00:05:35,361 Speaker 1: You lost your job for that? Yeah, you know what, 124 00:05:35,481 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: you lost your finger. 125 00:05:38,041 --> 00:05:39,921 Speaker 2: None of us got scared. He is like this console 126 00:05:40,041 --> 00:05:41,601 Speaker 2: ability I got rid of me. 127 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,441 Speaker 1: So what tan't you to like be competing like as 128 00:05:46,481 --> 00:05:48,401 Speaker 1: you did? What? What what made you do that? 129 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,401 Speaker 2: But you know what it was was going back to 130 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,401 Speaker 2: what I said I was. I was a scared kid. 131 00:05:52,721 --> 00:05:54,881 Speaker 2: You know, I was very scared. I was still the 132 00:05:54,921 --> 00:05:58,161 Speaker 2: biggest kid around, but I was fucking afraid. You know, 133 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,681 Speaker 2: like even in footy when there'd be pantrens, like my 134 00:06:01,721 --> 00:06:04,361 Speaker 2: heart would start racing, I'm like, fuck, you know, I 135 00:06:04,401 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: didn't like it. 136 00:06:05,161 --> 00:06:06,201 Speaker 1: Anxiety kind of thing. 137 00:06:06,561 --> 00:06:11,161 Speaker 2: Maybe not anxiety, but just like fear fear, And as 138 00:06:11,161 --> 00:06:13,481 Speaker 2: you get older, I was just like, this is not 139 00:06:14,121 --> 00:06:17,321 Speaker 2: how you should be. So when I hit about fifteen, 140 00:06:18,001 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: I just kind of you know, and you start hanging 141 00:06:20,801 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: out with people and you don't always have protection, you know, 142 00:06:24,521 --> 00:06:27,361 Speaker 2: walking around on the streets and shit, and I'm just thinking, 143 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,841 Speaker 2: like you start seeing punch ons and that. I'm just thinking, fuck, 144 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,921 Speaker 2: I need to do I need to change this. So 145 00:06:32,001 --> 00:06:34,281 Speaker 2: I started just training boxing in the off season of 146 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,361 Speaker 2: playing rugby, and I just said like, yeah, I'm going 147 00:06:37,401 --> 00:06:38,881 Speaker 2: to learn how to defend myself. I don't want to 148 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,281 Speaker 2: feel this way my whole life. 149 00:06:40,401 --> 00:06:43,161 Speaker 1: So when you say it, so it got above fifteen, 150 00:06:43,561 --> 00:06:46,241 Speaker 1: your your your hang on with mates? Are they? What 151 00:06:46,561 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: are they? They are they sporty mates? 152 00:06:49,161 --> 00:06:49,561 Speaker 2: Sporty? 153 00:06:49,641 --> 00:06:51,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you kind of wanted to change your ways 154 00:06:51,361 --> 00:06:53,281 Speaker 1: to stay with them in a way. 155 00:06:53,601 --> 00:06:56,401 Speaker 2: Nah, because I've pretty much had like three close mates 156 00:06:56,401 --> 00:06:57,841 Speaker 2: growing up. It was about four of us and we 157 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,041 Speaker 2: all played footage together in the same team, right, and 158 00:07:01,081 --> 00:07:03,361 Speaker 2: they were like my couple other mates from school. But 159 00:07:03,401 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: these are like my boys, you know, still too still 160 00:07:05,641 --> 00:07:09,281 Speaker 2: to today. They're like my close mates, you know. And yeah, 161 00:07:09,281 --> 00:07:12,001 Speaker 2: that was just we just you know, played footy together. 162 00:07:12,041 --> 00:07:15,561 Speaker 2: They were always training and then I just started just 163 00:07:15,721 --> 00:07:18,561 Speaker 2: going to the gym with them and yeah, I started 164 00:07:18,561 --> 00:07:19,801 Speaker 2: from there boxing training. 165 00:07:19,841 --> 00:07:23,441 Speaker 1: Already in the gym. Yeah, and then you just thought, okay, I. 166 00:07:23,441 --> 00:07:25,081 Speaker 2: Just thought I knew it. I'll start hanging out with them, 167 00:07:25,081 --> 00:07:25,281 Speaker 2: you know. 168 00:07:25,281 --> 00:07:27,401 Speaker 1: So when did they Okay, so you go in the gym, 169 00:07:27,521 --> 00:07:30,401 Speaker 1: When did it start? When did they When did you 170 00:07:30,441 --> 00:07:32,001 Speaker 1: know that? Okay, this is deepe for me. Now, this 171 00:07:32,041 --> 00:07:33,281 Speaker 1: is what I want to do now, this is I'm 172 00:07:33,281 --> 00:07:34,681 Speaker 1: going to push myself to be something now. 173 00:07:35,081 --> 00:07:36,841 Speaker 2: So I had my first MMA fight when I was 174 00:07:36,881 --> 00:07:40,561 Speaker 2: sixteen sixteen, yeah, so I hadn't done weights yet, so 175 00:07:40,601 --> 00:07:42,321 Speaker 2: I was just a footed player. And then I was 176 00:07:42,321 --> 00:07:44,281 Speaker 2: training bit of boxing and then I had this fight 177 00:07:44,361 --> 00:07:47,521 Speaker 2: last minute thing and then I had the fight. And 178 00:07:47,561 --> 00:07:49,601 Speaker 2: then after that fight, when I was sixteen, I think 179 00:07:49,921 --> 00:07:51,481 Speaker 2: that was on a Saturday night, and then I think 180 00:07:51,521 --> 00:07:53,801 Speaker 2: the Monday was the first time my mate took me 181 00:07:53,841 --> 00:07:56,521 Speaker 2: to the gym, and like my first day in the gym, 182 00:07:56,841 --> 00:08:01,001 Speaker 2: I benched one fuck was it one seventy five or 183 00:08:01,001 --> 00:08:04,201 Speaker 2: one eighty for two first time and there was an 184 00:08:04,201 --> 00:08:05,641 Speaker 2: older boy in the gym, and he was just like, 185 00:08:05,681 --> 00:08:07,641 Speaker 2: what the fuck? You know what I mean? I think 186 00:08:07,641 --> 00:08:10,081 Speaker 2: it was one eighty four plates aside for two raps. 187 00:08:10,241 --> 00:08:13,121 Speaker 2: I was a kid, like the worst technique you've ever seen, 188 00:08:13,201 --> 00:08:14,321 Speaker 2: but but you did you did it. 189 00:08:14,361 --> 00:08:14,881 Speaker 1: I did it. Yeah. 190 00:08:14,921 --> 00:08:18,041 Speaker 2: It wasn't fucking hands on spoiling it. It was me, 191 00:08:18,161 --> 00:08:20,481 Speaker 2: you know, legit. And then that's why I'm like, this 192 00:08:20,521 --> 00:08:23,001 Speaker 2: is mad. Everyone was starting to like do these ones 193 00:08:23,041 --> 00:08:26,281 Speaker 2: to me, and my confidence was like fuck great, So 194 00:08:26,321 --> 00:08:27,361 Speaker 2: I just ran with it from there. 195 00:08:27,921 --> 00:08:29,561 Speaker 1: But going back to what you just said down route, 196 00:08:29,721 --> 00:08:33,241 Speaker 1: you did MMA, right, Yeah, you don't like a confrontation. 197 00:08:33,281 --> 00:08:37,161 Speaker 2: So what didn't. But I've been training for maybe six months. Yeah, yeah, 198 00:08:37,641 --> 00:08:39,721 Speaker 2: And I just I was on the drink one night 199 00:08:39,801 --> 00:08:41,201 Speaker 2: and I was going to go up in corner my 200 00:08:41,241 --> 00:08:44,521 Speaker 2: friend fighting right, and i'd actually fractured my knuckle training 201 00:08:45,081 --> 00:08:47,681 Speaker 2: like maybe six weeks earliest. I didn't train in six weeks. 202 00:08:47,721 --> 00:08:48,121 Speaker 1: Yeah. 203 00:08:48,281 --> 00:08:50,881 Speaker 2: I was on a drink with my mate and some 204 00:08:51,041 --> 00:08:52,961 Speaker 2: random number card man answered it. And I was on 205 00:08:52,961 --> 00:08:55,001 Speaker 2: a loudspeaking next to one of my best mates and 206 00:08:55,001 --> 00:08:57,481 Speaker 2: he goes, hey, mate, blah blah blah, my name's whatever 207 00:08:57,681 --> 00:09:00,321 Speaker 2: from the fight show tomorrow night. Oh, your friend tells 208 00:09:00,321 --> 00:09:02,561 Speaker 2: me you're a big boy. I go, I mean kind of. 209 00:09:02,641 --> 00:09:04,441 Speaker 2: I think I was like, say, one hundred and nine kilows. 210 00:09:05,641 --> 00:09:07,041 Speaker 2: He goes, do you want to fight? This was the 211 00:09:07,081 --> 00:09:10,121 Speaker 2: next day. I go like, not really, I haven't trained. 212 00:09:10,521 --> 00:09:13,841 Speaker 2: I'm kind of on the piss now. He goes, well, mate, 213 00:09:13,841 --> 00:09:16,121 Speaker 2: I can tell you he'd be a teenager and it's 214 00:09:16,121 --> 00:09:18,481 Speaker 2: his first fight as well. And then my friend just 215 00:09:18,521 --> 00:09:22,001 Speaker 2: to pear pressure thing, do it you pussy can't? I'm like, fuck, yeah, 216 00:09:22,001 --> 00:09:24,721 Speaker 2: all right, yeah, sweet done. Hanged up the phone and 217 00:09:25,001 --> 00:09:26,961 Speaker 2: I was just shooting my pants. I was like, oh fuck, 218 00:09:27,001 --> 00:09:29,161 Speaker 2: what have I done? Anyway, the next day came, I 219 00:09:29,161 --> 00:09:31,761 Speaker 2: wasn't even going to go, and then at like four o'clock. 220 00:09:31,801 --> 00:09:33,881 Speaker 2: It was in Newcastle, So at like four o'clock my 221 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:36,201 Speaker 2: mates rocked up to my house let's go, and I 222 00:09:36,241 --> 00:09:39,161 Speaker 2: was like, ah fuck. I was like fuck it all right, 223 00:09:39,521 --> 00:09:42,361 Speaker 2: So we drove down and I'm looking around in the 224 00:09:42,441 --> 00:09:44,241 Speaker 2: changing We got there real late, like it should have 225 00:09:44,241 --> 00:09:46,321 Speaker 2: been the probably an hour before, so everyone's already like 226 00:09:46,321 --> 00:09:49,121 Speaker 2: clubbed up, warming up. We got there all late and 227 00:09:49,161 --> 00:09:52,041 Speaker 2: I'm looking in the back room. There was everyone's warming up. 228 00:09:52,081 --> 00:09:53,761 Speaker 2: In one room. There was like a bullshit curtain, but 229 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:54,761 Speaker 2: you can see straight through it. 230 00:09:54,801 --> 00:09:55,441 Speaker 1: You're trying to find it. 231 00:09:55,841 --> 00:09:58,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone was little, bro, everyone was little, So 232 00:09:58,761 --> 00:10:01,081 Speaker 2: I'm trying to scope it up and I'm like, fuck, 233 00:10:01,121 --> 00:10:02,761 Speaker 2: who if I got? Who have I got? And then 234 00:10:02,841 --> 00:10:07,081 Speaker 2: in the very back corner I see the biggest fucking Samoan, 235 00:10:07,401 --> 00:10:10,921 Speaker 2: big afro. But he was not a teenager. I found 236 00:10:10,961 --> 00:10:13,081 Speaker 2: out later it was thirty years old. Really. It had 237 00:10:13,201 --> 00:10:15,801 Speaker 2: nine fights here. I think he knocked out like eight people. Yeah, 238 00:10:15,801 --> 00:10:19,521 Speaker 2: and he's just throwing bombs on this pad boom, and 239 00:10:19,601 --> 00:10:22,001 Speaker 2: my heart just like I went, oh fuck, he's the 240 00:10:22,041 --> 00:10:24,761 Speaker 2: only big dude in the room. I got this. I'm 241 00:10:24,801 --> 00:10:27,681 Speaker 2: just like this can't I'm not going to run away now. 242 00:10:27,801 --> 00:10:31,041 Speaker 2: So I got in now one did it? Yeah? 243 00:10:31,081 --> 00:10:33,441 Speaker 1: And I stopped him as well, feeling I have to 244 00:10:33,441 --> 00:10:35,641 Speaker 1: go through like being all that nervous. And then did 245 00:10:35,681 --> 00:10:36,281 Speaker 1: you want it again? 246 00:10:36,721 --> 00:10:36,961 Speaker 2: Hey? 247 00:10:37,041 --> 00:10:39,921 Speaker 1: Did you want to fight again after that? Because you yeah? 248 00:10:40,041 --> 00:10:42,801 Speaker 2: Yeah? But I was I was cool for a minute, 249 00:10:43,441 --> 00:10:45,841 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'd done that and I 250 00:10:45,881 --> 00:10:48,561 Speaker 2: was like sweet little box ticked like face to fit 251 00:10:48,641 --> 00:10:50,681 Speaker 2: one of those things, you know, And then I just 252 00:10:50,721 --> 00:10:52,881 Speaker 2: wanted to start lifting waights for a bit. And I 253 00:10:52,921 --> 00:10:54,401 Speaker 2: was being a little bit naughty at the time, so 254 00:10:54,481 --> 00:10:56,401 Speaker 2: I wasn't too focused on training, just a bit of 255 00:10:56,401 --> 00:10:57,001 Speaker 2: weights for fun. 256 00:10:57,121 --> 00:10:59,841 Speaker 1: You know what size you now? Like you you're starting 257 00:10:59,841 --> 00:11:02,761 Speaker 1: to lift weights, You're starting to get your physic Yeah, 258 00:11:02,921 --> 00:11:05,321 Speaker 1: it's stands to shape up. Now you're getting fit. Yeah, 259 00:11:05,361 --> 00:11:06,121 Speaker 1: how big are you looking? 260 00:11:06,161 --> 00:11:06,281 Speaker 2: Now? 261 00:11:06,361 --> 00:11:06,481 Speaker 1: Well? 262 00:11:06,481 --> 00:11:08,761 Speaker 2: I was sixteen when i'd done that fight. I'd never 263 00:11:08,761 --> 00:11:10,681 Speaker 2: lifted weights, and I was the hard am now so 264 00:11:10,721 --> 00:11:12,801 Speaker 2: I was six three and I was one hundred and nine. 265 00:11:12,721 --> 00:11:14,801 Speaker 1: Killers And you've got a bit of confidence beyond you now. 266 00:11:14,681 --> 00:11:16,121 Speaker 2: I've got a bit of confidence, you know. I can 267 00:11:16,241 --> 00:11:17,001 Speaker 2: knock out a man. 268 00:11:17,161 --> 00:11:21,241 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so, so are you now getting provoked 269 00:11:21,641 --> 00:11:24,201 Speaker 1: and kind of like entaste by people now who are 270 00:11:24,241 --> 00:11:26,841 Speaker 1: looking at you going like you know, when when you 271 00:11:26,841 --> 00:11:28,481 Speaker 1: when you've got someone who's good at what they do 272 00:11:28,761 --> 00:11:32,401 Speaker 1: and they like fighters it now that they're brought in 273 00:11:32,521 --> 00:11:34,961 Speaker 1: by people to use. Were you used by people because 274 00:11:34,961 --> 00:11:35,601 Speaker 1: of your size? 275 00:11:36,001 --> 00:11:36,601 Speaker 2: No? 276 00:11:36,601 --> 00:11:38,881 Speaker 1: No, No one tried to bay entaste you to. 277 00:11:39,081 --> 00:11:42,841 Speaker 2: A couple of times they tried, but I was still 278 00:11:42,841 --> 00:11:45,161 Speaker 2: pretty like on that from me, you know, like I 279 00:11:45,161 --> 00:11:48,081 Speaker 2: could kind of see a snake. 280 00:11:47,961 --> 00:11:50,281 Speaker 1: Because someone got size, would be like, fucking let we 281 00:11:50,281 --> 00:11:51,241 Speaker 1: could use him, you know what I mean? 282 00:11:51,281 --> 00:11:52,561 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got that a lot when I was a 283 00:11:52,641 --> 00:11:54,121 Speaker 2: kid in jail. I got that a lot in jarl. 284 00:11:54,441 --> 00:11:57,001 Speaker 2: I was eighteen, I got that a lot, you know, Okay, 285 00:11:57,081 --> 00:11:59,441 Speaker 2: but not too much when I was a bit younger 286 00:11:59,521 --> 00:12:01,881 Speaker 2: because I kind of just I didn't allow myself to 287 00:12:01,881 --> 00:12:04,361 Speaker 2: get in those situations. I had my tight group near 288 00:12:04,401 --> 00:12:06,841 Speaker 2: of friends and I've kind of just stayed with the boys. 289 00:12:06,881 --> 00:12:08,961 Speaker 1: You know, how are you going before you went to jail? 290 00:12:09,041 --> 00:12:10,481 Speaker 1: Were you any more fights with it? 291 00:12:10,721 --> 00:12:12,081 Speaker 2: With your nor fights? 292 00:12:12,121 --> 00:12:14,401 Speaker 1: So it's just basically now you're hitting the weights, hitting 293 00:12:14,401 --> 00:12:16,601 Speaker 1: the ways hard. Yeah, what was your goal? I didn't 294 00:12:16,601 --> 00:12:17,521 Speaker 1: have one at that stage. 295 00:12:17,641 --> 00:12:20,841 Speaker 2: I was just enjoying putting on size and just being 296 00:12:20,881 --> 00:12:24,201 Speaker 2: the you know, the strong dude at the local gym. Yeah. Yeah, 297 00:12:24,361 --> 00:12:26,521 Speaker 2: I just I liked the attention because I never got it. 298 00:12:26,561 --> 00:12:27,841 Speaker 2: You know. It was a nice feeling. 299 00:12:28,641 --> 00:12:30,601 Speaker 1: So how did you end up in jailing? How did 300 00:12:30,641 --> 00:12:31,281 Speaker 1: that come around? 301 00:12:31,321 --> 00:12:33,601 Speaker 2: Pretty much? Long story shot. Me and my mate too 302 00:12:34,161 --> 00:12:36,961 Speaker 2: kind of always felt like, I guess, if you can 303 00:12:37,001 --> 00:12:40,001 Speaker 2: say the right word for outcasts, like we didn't feel 304 00:12:40,041 --> 00:12:43,481 Speaker 2: like we're fitting with everyone else, you know, so we'd 305 00:12:43,521 --> 00:12:46,081 Speaker 2: kind of just stick together and you know, as you 306 00:12:46,121 --> 00:12:48,801 Speaker 2: do young kids, you just kind of get up to 307 00:12:48,921 --> 00:12:52,041 Speaker 2: a bit of mischief. Yeah, pretty much. We robbed drug dealer, 308 00:12:52,081 --> 00:12:54,321 Speaker 2: but it was like a home invasion and it was armed. 309 00:12:54,681 --> 00:12:57,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I wanted to what do you get 310 00:12:58,001 --> 00:12:58,161 Speaker 1: for that? 311 00:12:58,881 --> 00:13:00,321 Speaker 2: Two and a half and then I got out after 312 00:13:00,361 --> 00:13:03,841 Speaker 2: about fifteen months? How did that feel? It was all right? Bro? 313 00:13:04,041 --> 00:13:05,561 Speaker 2: It took a while because I was in for a 314 00:13:05,561 --> 00:13:07,321 Speaker 2: little bit and then I was on bail for like 315 00:13:08,041 --> 00:13:10,361 Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen months, and I was on house for rest 316 00:13:10,401 --> 00:13:12,601 Speaker 2: for a bit and then curfew, So it took like 317 00:13:12,761 --> 00:13:14,081 Speaker 2: three and a half years all that. Then I had 318 00:13:14,081 --> 00:13:15,761 Speaker 2: to go back and do another year. Then I got 319 00:13:15,761 --> 00:13:18,721 Speaker 2: out on good behavior parole. So it was bro. 320 00:13:18,841 --> 00:13:22,881 Speaker 1: It was it wasn't too bad, but from someone of like, 321 00:13:23,361 --> 00:13:27,801 Speaker 1: I'm going from someone who's you know, insecure. Now you're 322 00:13:27,841 --> 00:13:30,361 Speaker 1: going into jail. Okay, you've got a bit of size on. 323 00:13:30,481 --> 00:13:33,121 Speaker 1: But were you in control of yourself? Were intimidated? We 324 00:13:33,401 --> 00:13:35,121 Speaker 1: were you? Were you scared or you are? 325 00:13:35,321 --> 00:13:38,161 Speaker 2: Look, but when you get arrested, you go to police 326 00:13:38,201 --> 00:13:40,681 Speaker 2: station and then that night it's you know, at refuse, 327 00:13:40,721 --> 00:13:42,721 Speaker 2: all right, you're going to fucking jail. Yeah, and you're 328 00:13:42,761 --> 00:13:45,161 Speaker 2: eighteen and I've never been arrested once, never done do 329 00:13:45,401 --> 00:13:48,041 Speaker 2: or anything. And then you go in that jail truck cufft. 330 00:13:48,201 --> 00:13:50,921 Speaker 2: It was like fuck, it's on, you know. So I 331 00:13:51,001 --> 00:13:53,201 Speaker 2: was nervous the first night, but then you get in 332 00:13:53,241 --> 00:13:56,481 Speaker 2: there and you kind of you learn to go pretty quickly. 333 00:13:56,601 --> 00:13:58,841 Speaker 2: You know, you speak to fi older boys, they take 334 00:13:58,881 --> 00:14:00,481 Speaker 2: you under their wing. Yeah. 335 00:14:00,721 --> 00:14:04,721 Speaker 1: No incidents inside, No, really, someone your size, you've got 336 00:14:04,721 --> 00:14:05,801 Speaker 1: no incidents inside? 337 00:14:05,921 --> 00:14:08,561 Speaker 2: Not really, Bro. I didn't get involved in drugs in there. 338 00:14:08,801 --> 00:14:12,401 Speaker 2: I didn't disrespect kept yourself, not kept to myself like 339 00:14:12,481 --> 00:14:16,321 Speaker 2: I'd make friends and chat. But you know, look, if 340 00:14:16,361 --> 00:14:20,361 Speaker 2: you're not if you don't take shit and you're normal, 341 00:14:20,681 --> 00:14:23,481 Speaker 2: you'll be fine, you know what I mean. If you're like, 342 00:14:24,161 --> 00:14:26,801 Speaker 2: if you're a weak count and you let someone kind 343 00:14:26,801 --> 00:14:29,681 Speaker 2: of cross that line, you're going to have a rough time. 344 00:14:29,841 --> 00:14:33,041 Speaker 2: But you know, for example, if someone tried to stamp 345 00:14:33,081 --> 00:14:35,361 Speaker 2: before their food or something, if you have a crack 346 00:14:35,401 --> 00:14:37,121 Speaker 2: with them, at least the count will respect it. Even 347 00:14:37,161 --> 00:14:39,361 Speaker 2: if you lose, you'll get respected and then it probably 348 00:14:39,361 --> 00:14:42,001 Speaker 2: won't happen again. If you let someone walk all over there, 349 00:14:42,481 --> 00:14:44,321 Speaker 2: you're gonna have a very rough time. So as long 350 00:14:44,361 --> 00:14:46,681 Speaker 2: as you just kind of, you know, defend yourself and 351 00:14:46,721 --> 00:14:49,321 Speaker 2: stand up for yourself and then you don't get involved 352 00:14:49,361 --> 00:14:52,601 Speaker 2: in any drugs in there, should be okay most of 353 00:14:52,641 --> 00:14:52,961 Speaker 2: the time. 354 00:14:53,041 --> 00:14:54,361 Speaker 1: How does your family feel when you win? 355 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:57,121 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were crushed. Yeah I got nice parents. Yeah, 356 00:14:57,121 --> 00:14:58,961 Speaker 2: my mum was very upset. It crushed me. First time 357 00:14:59,001 --> 00:15:01,401 Speaker 2: I seen her and she started crying in the visit. 358 00:15:01,561 --> 00:15:04,201 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, you know, let her down. But 359 00:15:05,441 --> 00:15:05,921 Speaker 2: when you're. 360 00:15:05,801 --> 00:15:08,201 Speaker 1: Inside, is that when things started to turm for you? 361 00:15:08,321 --> 00:15:10,361 Speaker 1: Like when you get out you knew what you were 362 00:15:10,841 --> 00:15:12,601 Speaker 1: you're going to do, or you still didn't know what 363 00:15:12,601 --> 00:15:15,401 Speaker 1: you're going to do, Like when was it? Then you're 364 00:15:15,401 --> 00:15:17,321 Speaker 1: going I want to be a powerlifter. 365 00:15:17,561 --> 00:15:20,001 Speaker 2: So when I was on bail, I forgot off house arrest. 366 00:15:20,201 --> 00:15:23,881 Speaker 2: I started training after work and I met this bloke 367 00:15:23,921 --> 00:15:26,961 Speaker 2: who still to this day is my waistcoach, Sebastian or 368 00:15:26,961 --> 00:15:29,521 Speaker 2: an Australian strength coach. He's the best waits coach in 369 00:15:29,521 --> 00:15:32,281 Speaker 2: the world. So I actually met him when I was eighteen. 370 00:15:32,121 --> 00:15:34,041 Speaker 2: When after I got out after a few months and 371 00:15:34,081 --> 00:15:36,161 Speaker 2: I was on bail, I started training where he used 372 00:15:36,201 --> 00:15:38,761 Speaker 2: to work, and like I was training with one of 373 00:15:38,801 --> 00:15:41,281 Speaker 2: his friends and I did a deadlift and it was 374 00:15:41,321 --> 00:15:44,001 Speaker 2: like two hundred for like one rep and it was shit. 375 00:15:44,481 --> 00:15:46,881 Speaker 2: And then it came up to me and he's like 376 00:15:47,001 --> 00:15:49,401 Speaker 2: really intense and he's like, bro, you can do more. 377 00:15:49,641 --> 00:15:52,521 Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck you reckon. He's like fuck yeah, let's go, 378 00:15:53,041 --> 00:15:55,081 Speaker 2: and he started screaming at me when I was doing it. 379 00:15:55,081 --> 00:15:57,561 Speaker 2: The whole gym stopped to watch, and from doing one 380 00:15:57,601 --> 00:16:00,601 Speaker 2: rep like ten minutes later with him screaming in my face, 381 00:16:00,681 --> 00:16:03,841 Speaker 2: I got like seven or eight reps and I was like, fuck, 382 00:16:04,081 --> 00:16:06,481 Speaker 2: this is hectic. So I was training with him for 383 00:16:06,521 --> 00:16:08,041 Speaker 2: a little bit and then I have to go back. 384 00:16:08,721 --> 00:16:10,601 Speaker 2: And then as soon as I got out, I knew, 385 00:16:10,681 --> 00:16:12,561 Speaker 2: like I want to link up with him and give 386 00:16:12,601 --> 00:16:13,001 Speaker 2: it a crack. 387 00:16:13,041 --> 00:16:15,721 Speaker 1: You know, it's fine, Okay, So what size he now? Now? 388 00:16:16,001 --> 00:16:21,041 Speaker 2: I just did a fast on one hundred and thirty nine. 389 00:16:20,641 --> 00:16:23,681 Speaker 1: When he was training you? Was it? Was it his 390 00:16:24,641 --> 00:16:26,761 Speaker 1: plan to get you bigger? Or was it you still 391 00:16:26,801 --> 00:16:28,761 Speaker 1: going to want it to be bigger? You know what 392 00:16:28,801 --> 00:16:30,801 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, one eighty one is a fucking big number. 393 00:16:30,841 --> 00:16:32,641 Speaker 2: It's a big especially I was young as I was 394 00:16:32,681 --> 00:16:35,321 Speaker 2: twenty four at the time, twenty four when I got 395 00:16:35,321 --> 00:16:36,481 Speaker 2: the record. 396 00:16:36,681 --> 00:16:38,641 Speaker 1: Why so fucking like, I know you got to be 397 00:16:38,641 --> 00:16:41,321 Speaker 1: big to lift big, But that's fucking huge. 398 00:16:41,441 --> 00:16:44,241 Speaker 2: It's a big bro. But mass mis mass? 399 00:16:45,361 --> 00:16:46,641 Speaker 1: What would you die for that? 400 00:16:47,081 --> 00:16:47,201 Speaker 4: Oh? 401 00:16:47,441 --> 00:16:49,081 Speaker 2: Fuck? Dirty? 402 00:16:50,081 --> 00:16:50,441 Speaker 1: Dirty? 403 00:16:50,481 --> 00:16:53,001 Speaker 2: Fuck? Yeah dude? Was it? Oh yeah, bro? Snacking on 404 00:16:53,121 --> 00:16:54,281 Speaker 2: family size pizzas. 405 00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:58,321 Speaker 1: So to tell, So tell me a day for that? 406 00:16:58,721 --> 00:17:00,241 Speaker 1: What you're you're eating? Planned with beef? 407 00:17:00,321 --> 00:17:03,521 Speaker 2: That look pretty much? You know it changed. I didn't 408 00:17:03,561 --> 00:17:06,441 Speaker 2: have any plan. It's just more calories. Get him in, bro, 409 00:17:06,721 --> 00:17:09,641 Speaker 2: sweet you feel sick? Fuck your now, it's some more chocolate. 410 00:17:09,921 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: Get in the calories. Yeah, it wasn't good. It's not healthy, 411 00:17:13,041 --> 00:17:16,241 Speaker 2: but served its purpose and it worked. But pretty much 412 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,201 Speaker 2: i'd wake up, i'd have a fat like masskin a shake. 413 00:17:19,241 --> 00:17:21,681 Speaker 2: I'd drive into it because I was full time patine 414 00:17:21,721 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: at the JIM I trained out of, so I'd have 415 00:17:23,481 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: a big maskin of shake in the morning and then 416 00:17:25,481 --> 00:17:27,481 Speaker 2: i'd go in. I'd get like three bacon and egg 417 00:17:27,561 --> 00:17:29,361 Speaker 2: rolls at a cafe and go to work for a bit. 418 00:17:29,761 --> 00:17:32,241 Speaker 2: Then i'd go have lunch, you know, a couple burgers, 419 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: and then i'd go and get the family not the block, 420 00:17:35,241 --> 00:17:38,521 Speaker 2: the family sized block of Cadbury chocolate. And when I 421 00:17:38,561 --> 00:17:40,801 Speaker 2: was training cars, sitting down and teaching them how to square, 422 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,281 Speaker 2: i'd just be eating that. I'd polish that, have another shake, 423 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,641 Speaker 2: and then there was a pizza shop there, so I'd 424 00:17:46,681 --> 00:17:49,801 Speaker 2: go and get the family sized pizza for the trip home. 425 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,801 Speaker 2: I'd polish that, and then when I got home, i'd 426 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: have my dinner my missus made me, and then some 427 00:17:53,961 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: ice cream and finish it off. That's kind of a 428 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: rough guide. It was over ten thousand a day, Carls. 429 00:17:59,481 --> 00:18:02,241 Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, and I'm ready. I was a training. 430 00:18:02,321 --> 00:18:06,041 Speaker 2: We do once a day, sometimes twice today, probably two 431 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:08,681 Speaker 2: days a week. I'd trained twice a day, about two 432 00:18:08,681 --> 00:18:11,201 Speaker 2: hour session in the morning, hour and a half at night. 433 00:18:11,521 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Probably about five days a week. Yeah, because when you're 434 00:18:14,761 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: lift in real heavy you do need a bit more 435 00:18:16,201 --> 00:18:16,881 Speaker 2: recovery time. 436 00:18:17,321 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how a power left would train like 437 00:18:19,281 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because me, I go to 438 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: the gym to try and fucking get big with fucking 439 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,801 Speaker 1: you know whatever I try and do. What What was 440 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,281 Speaker 1: your training regime for that? Was it just doing deadlifts? 441 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: Was it doing what? What? 442 00:18:31,521 --> 00:18:35,321 Speaker 2: So? Palatin's the sport of performing one rep maximum weight 443 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,401 Speaker 2: of a squat, bench press and a deadlift. So all 444 00:18:39,441 --> 00:18:41,241 Speaker 2: you got to do is get on stage and you're 445 00:18:41,241 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: doing one rep as heavy as you can squat. You 446 00:18:43,761 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: get three attempts. So say, for example, my biggest squat 447 00:18:47,441 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: I performed in competition was four hundred and thirty five killers. 448 00:18:51,201 --> 00:18:53,321 Speaker 2: So I'd warm up in the back. You know, you 449 00:18:53,441 --> 00:18:55,241 Speaker 2: do a couple of sets body weight to try and 450 00:18:55,241 --> 00:18:58,321 Speaker 2: get the blood flowing. Yeah, couple sets barbell to try 451 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: and get the blood flowing. One plate, ten reps, two plates, 452 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: six reps, three plates, three reps, four plates, one rep, 453 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,441 Speaker 2: five plates, one rep, six plates, one rep, seven plates, 454 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,921 Speaker 2: one rep and then whatever your kind of you get 455 00:19:15,921 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: to about the three hundred and three fifty KO and 456 00:19:18,761 --> 00:19:20,721 Speaker 2: then you've got your plan for the day, whatever it is. 457 00:19:20,801 --> 00:19:23,321 Speaker 2: Say all right, today, I'm going to lift three hundred 458 00:19:23,321 --> 00:19:25,801 Speaker 2: and eighty for four. So you're taking about ten minute 459 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,521 Speaker 2: breaks in between each set, and then you're just switching 460 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,481 Speaker 2: on for the main set. One main set, four reps. 461 00:19:32,561 --> 00:19:36,801 Speaker 2: Let's fucking go, let's gee up, loud music on everyone watching, everyone, 462 00:19:37,001 --> 00:19:42,281 Speaker 2: giving your energy. You do one set, done, done. I 463 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,041 Speaker 2: used to love one set, but it's a fucking big set. 464 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: And then depending on what you know exercise it is, 465 00:19:48,281 --> 00:19:50,441 Speaker 2: you can come back and do accessories at night, because 466 00:19:50,481 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: that set takes so much out of you. You know, 467 00:19:52,761 --> 00:19:55,521 Speaker 2: it's a big set. It's a lot on the nervous system. 468 00:19:55,921 --> 00:19:58,041 Speaker 2: So then, for example, if I just do one set 469 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,441 Speaker 2: of squats, it took me two hours to do one set, 470 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,321 Speaker 2: and I'd come back that night and do you know, 471 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: high rep, lake press, hammi curls, just a little bit 472 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,561 Speaker 2: of accessories to get blood flowing, more body building and stuff, 473 00:20:08,961 --> 00:20:11,081 Speaker 2: you know, But that's kind of the basis. It's two 474 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,521 Speaker 2: hour sessions and you're not getting many sets in. Wow. 475 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you only done the powerlest because it 476 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,561 Speaker 1: says when the strongest man, is that just from what 477 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: you were doing? Or are we doing? Are we doing 478 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,481 Speaker 1: the strongest man? 479 00:20:23,561 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 4: Now? 480 00:20:23,961 --> 00:20:25,921 Speaker 2: It was just a power off, that's all I competed. 481 00:20:26,041 --> 00:20:28,481 Speaker 2: I trained a bit of both, but all I competed 482 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: was the power lifting. Okay, yeah, so that was your 483 00:20:30,481 --> 00:20:32,281 Speaker 2: main goal, yeah, to do Oh yeah, yeah, I wanted 484 00:20:32,281 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: to be when I started, I SI, I want to 485 00:20:33,721 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: be strongest in Australia. 486 00:20:34,921 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: So what year did this happen? 487 00:20:36,721 --> 00:20:37,481 Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen. 488 00:20:38,241 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: Talk me into that day, that day that you got it, 489 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,801 Speaker 1: you achieved in. 490 00:20:41,001 --> 00:20:43,281 Speaker 2: Yeah, luckily it was Actually it was the biggest comp 491 00:20:43,321 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: in the world that year. Luckily for me it was 492 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,161 Speaker 2: in Melbourne, so all the Russians Americans had to fly 493 00:20:47,281 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: to Australia and just had to go one hour. Yeah, 494 00:20:49,241 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: so that was a very big advantage, not being in 495 00:20:51,921 --> 00:20:55,521 Speaker 2: a plane for a day. But yeah, I just went 496 00:20:55,561 --> 00:20:58,521 Speaker 2: to Melbourne, had buffet breakfast at the Crown, probably ate 497 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,961 Speaker 2: like twenty pancakes covered in the tower. Felt sick, went 498 00:21:04,001 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: to the show, Probably had like I used to have 499 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: these caffeine tablets. I used to abuse them. There was 500 00:21:10,201 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: one little tablet and there was probably about three coffees 501 00:21:13,921 --> 00:21:16,761 Speaker 2: worth of caffeine and one tablet, so I'd have about 502 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: three tablets before each main lift. So that day I 503 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,441 Speaker 2: probably had like the equivalent of like twenty five coffees. 504 00:21:24,041 --> 00:21:24,601 Speaker 2: Fucking like. 505 00:21:26,321 --> 00:21:26,521 Speaker 1: Yeah. 506 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,281 Speaker 2: Because I was an aggression lifter, so I used to 507 00:21:29,441 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: love getting jeered up, high caffeine, high energy, one set, 508 00:21:34,041 --> 00:21:36,041 Speaker 2: like I used to his head, button the bar and 509 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,761 Speaker 2: just you're going to like a fucking evil, hard place. 510 00:21:39,801 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: You know you're committing to it. You're not going in soft. 511 00:21:42,561 --> 00:21:45,281 Speaker 2: A lot of people do, yeah, but each I was 512 00:21:45,281 --> 00:21:48,761 Speaker 2: an aggression lifter, so I used to love getting high energy, 513 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: high intensity. My coach is high energy. Used to smack 514 00:21:52,321 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: me in the head, smack me in the back. I've 515 00:21:54,001 --> 00:21:57,041 Speaker 2: seen them do so yeah, and it worked, Yeah, it worked. 516 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:00,481 Speaker 1: Before you Who was the Australians stronger. 517 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,961 Speaker 2: Del Manual big Lander from Queensland. He had the record 518 00:22:02,961 --> 00:22:03,521 Speaker 2: for about. 519 00:22:03,281 --> 00:22:05,681 Speaker 1: Ten years, so that day you took it from him. 520 00:22:05,721 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: I took his record. Yet so it's based off the total. 521 00:22:08,201 --> 00:22:11,041 Speaker 2: So the biggest squat you do, the biggest bench press 522 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: you do, the biggest deadlift you do, you add up 523 00:22:13,281 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: the numbers and you get your total biggest total wins? Wow? 524 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did that feel? 525 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: It was? It was a relief. I wanted it for 526 00:22:20,721 --> 00:22:23,001 Speaker 2: so long and I had a really hard prep because 527 00:22:23,001 --> 00:22:25,561 Speaker 2: I was so big. I couldn't sleep. So I was like, 528 00:22:25,721 --> 00:22:29,401 Speaker 2: it was fucking ten hard weeks, bro of a anxiety. 529 00:22:29,481 --> 00:22:31,801 Speaker 2: You're going to sleep every night thinking like I'm going 530 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,561 Speaker 2: to die because I cannot get airing because my face 531 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,881 Speaker 2: and shoulders and neck is that big and bloated. It's yeah, 532 00:22:38,921 --> 00:22:40,761 Speaker 2: it was tough. It was just a sign of like, 533 00:22:40,961 --> 00:22:42,961 Speaker 2: thank fuck, that's done. I flew the time end the 534 00:22:43,001 --> 00:22:45,881 Speaker 2: next day just to start sweating and dropping weight. Oh 535 00:22:45,921 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: so straight straight after you want to drop the weight? Yeah? Bro, yeah, 536 00:22:49,241 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: I could not be that way for very long. It 537 00:22:51,201 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: was very hard. 538 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Was that the last time you ever did? That? Was 539 00:22:54,281 --> 00:22:56,121 Speaker 1: my last come? I got my record and I said 540 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:57,241 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm satisfied. 541 00:22:57,281 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: That was it. That was it? Bro. 542 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't want to carry on? 543 00:23:00,001 --> 00:23:03,801 Speaker 2: No, no, fuck down on to fight and drop weight? 544 00:23:03,921 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 545 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,241 Speaker 2: Sleep and get healthier. Okay, Yeah, being that way as 546 00:23:08,321 --> 00:23:11,521 Speaker 2: it's not good? So has anyone broken that yet? So 547 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: the blog that I beat, he came back and he got. 548 00:23:14,041 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: It again, you know, doesn't make you want to do 549 00:23:16,281 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: it again. 550 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: No, I beat him. 551 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,441 Speaker 1: Him, you know, so then you moved on to what 552 00:23:25,441 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: what did you want to do? 553 00:23:26,201 --> 00:23:29,161 Speaker 2: Now I'm focusing on the fighting, you know, So what boxing? 554 00:23:29,761 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: I like? MMA. I'm going to stick Tom. I've had 555 00:23:33,001 --> 00:23:35,921 Speaker 2: fights in boxing, kickboxing, mm I've had nine altogether. 556 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,001 Speaker 1: I'll bring up the boxing fast because I found something 557 00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:41,201 Speaker 1: on Google about this, okay, and it was a big 558 00:23:41,321 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: controversial what happened in that fight? Which one you got disqualified? Oh? 559 00:23:45,721 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that ship. 560 00:23:48,001 --> 00:23:49,481 Speaker 1: I looked at it and I just went, what the fuck? 561 00:23:49,521 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: And I read up on it and then okay. 562 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,561 Speaker 2: That's a ship fires awkward. But now I hit him 563 00:23:54,561 --> 00:23:56,281 Speaker 2: with a big shot. He went back into the ropes, 564 00:23:56,921 --> 00:23:59,161 Speaker 2: and then I just went for a big caveman swing 565 00:23:59,561 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: and he was grabbing me the whole fight. Hit and 566 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: just grabbed me. He was the mm A fighter too, okay, 567 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,001 Speaker 2: So it was just like it was an ugly box. 568 00:24:05,321 --> 00:24:08,801 Speaker 2: There's nothing sweet science about it. But you just kept 569 00:24:08,801 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: grabbing me and obviously not meant it in boxing. And 570 00:24:12,001 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: then I hit him. He went back against the ropes. 571 00:24:13,921 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: I threw a big swing and he all came under 572 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,801 Speaker 2: me like rugby tackle and I almost went down. And 573 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: it was the second round, but he'd grabbed me like 574 00:24:20,921 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: ten times, and I just like I almost went off balance. 575 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,241 Speaker 2: So I just thought, fuck this. So I just ankle 576 00:24:25,281 --> 00:24:28,561 Speaker 2: tripped him, pretty much like pretty much, don't fucking grab me, 577 00:24:28,961 --> 00:24:31,521 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I just ankle tripped him. 578 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,521 Speaker 2: And because we trained MMA, when you trip someone, you 579 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: hit him on the ground, it's just drew it in. 580 00:24:37,201 --> 00:24:39,921 Speaker 2: So I ankle fucking picked him and he fell down 581 00:24:39,961 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: and then I like, I threw it, but I pulled back. 582 00:24:43,681 --> 00:24:45,721 Speaker 2: I pulled back. I didn't hit him on the ground. 583 00:24:45,721 --> 00:24:48,641 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the foot I can show after. 584 00:24:49,041 --> 00:24:51,281 Speaker 2: But they said I hit him on the ground, and 585 00:24:51,321 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: they said not, you hit the coun on the ground 586 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,721 Speaker 2: and you're the square fight. But I didn't, And props 587 00:24:55,721 --> 00:24:57,721 Speaker 2: to the opponent straight away he said, no, he didn't 588 00:24:57,761 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: hit me, but the ref's lot idea. So they sacked me. 589 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,521 Speaker 1: Wow, So it was that your last fight that you 590 00:25:03,561 --> 00:25:05,961 Speaker 1: had them boxing. But just as you before, boxing is 591 00:25:06,041 --> 00:25:07,761 Speaker 1: just not for you, but you prefer MM Now. 592 00:25:07,801 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: I've had a couple, but I'm not. I'm not a 593 00:25:10,481 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: school for boxer. I'm not. 594 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: You're more like a brawler. 595 00:25:14,761 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm a brawler. B Yeah, I got decent kicks. I 596 00:25:20,001 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: want to wrestle someone pick him up. 597 00:25:24,561 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: You know what. 598 00:25:24,921 --> 00:25:27,561 Speaker 1: That's a question I have. Why wouldn't you go into wrestling, Like, 599 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you go and try and get like a 600 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:30,321 Speaker 1: contract overseas. 601 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,561 Speaker 2: I got asked in twenty fifteen if I want to 602 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,321 Speaker 2: go to I think it's in Orlando. I think in 603 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: Florida ww A headquarters. I got asked there was a 604 00:25:40,281 --> 00:25:43,041 Speaker 2: mutual link and someone there contacted me. I think he 605 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: started seeing some of my powerffs and videos and I 606 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,321 Speaker 2: just used to get angry and head butt shit. And 607 00:25:47,441 --> 00:25:49,761 Speaker 2: I was a tank and so he would have seen 608 00:25:49,801 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: those videos that were doing the rounds at the time. 609 00:25:51,961 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: And I got asked, He's like, do you want to 610 00:25:53,201 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: do a trial? And I was still on parole at 611 00:25:56,001 --> 00:25:57,921 Speaker 2: the time, and America get in in. 612 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,201 Speaker 1: You wouldn't have got in, nah, So did you tell 613 00:26:01,241 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: them that? 614 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,961 Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted to try and pull strings 615 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,441 Speaker 2: or like a not a certainty, you know. Yeah, if 616 00:26:08,441 --> 00:26:11,121 Speaker 2: there was like a done deal, I think they could 617 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: have got me in. Yeah, but just to have a tryout, 618 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: you know, it's going to take a while and expensive 619 00:26:17,721 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: legal bills and shit. Yea, so nah, but yeah, I 620 00:26:21,201 --> 00:26:22,481 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to so. 621 00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so now you're concentrating on MMA UFC kind of thing. 622 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,961 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to make the UFC. That's my nextest weight. 623 00:26:30,241 --> 00:26:33,561 Speaker 2: So the heavyweight limit in UFC's one hundred and twenty kilos. 624 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: What the fuck heavyweight limit. 625 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:36,521 Speaker 1: That's a big drop. 626 00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:39,561 Speaker 2: MA can't brockles they were in at one twenty. That's 627 00:26:39,561 --> 00:26:42,041 Speaker 2: a big, big drop, bro. But I'm kind of wait now, 628 00:26:42,041 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: and that's the reason. 629 00:26:43,041 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: So so you will drop that. 630 00:26:45,041 --> 00:26:46,921 Speaker 2: I'm going to try. I'm going to try and get 631 00:26:46,921 --> 00:26:49,121 Speaker 2: active this year, get a few wins, and hopefully get in. 632 00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:50,801 Speaker 2: So I look at this way, if I can get 633 00:26:50,801 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: to about I'm one thirty nine now, if I can 634 00:26:53,241 --> 00:26:56,001 Speaker 2: get to about one thirty four one thirty five, say, 635 00:26:56,321 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: and that's my new kind of normal weight, which I 636 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,441 Speaker 2: can drop another five off this frame. If I can 637 00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:04,721 Speaker 2: have say, eight weeks notice for a camp for a fight. 638 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,801 Speaker 2: You want to find eight weeks you have, sweet, you 639 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: drop about one to zero point a zero point seven 640 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,961 Speaker 2: a week for that time, So you're going hungry. Yeah, 641 00:27:14,001 --> 00:27:16,201 Speaker 2: and then the week of the fight with a water cut, 642 00:27:16,201 --> 00:27:18,001 Speaker 2: I can do it. You know, it'll be hard, it 643 00:27:18,001 --> 00:27:20,481 Speaker 2: won't be the best thing, but everyone cuts weight with water, 644 00:27:20,921 --> 00:27:23,601 Speaker 2: so especially at a heavier frame, I could drop you know, 645 00:27:24,001 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: eight to ten. So a lot of people drop eight 646 00:27:26,961 --> 00:27:29,561 Speaker 2: kilos in water a lot lighter, so it is doable. 647 00:27:30,001 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: But you think the fighting scene in Australia for this 648 00:27:33,321 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: kind of what you're doing has got it, Like don't 649 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,481 Speaker 1: you have to go overseas to America if you want 650 00:27:39,481 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: to make it in this sport? 651 00:27:40,521 --> 00:27:40,721 Speaker 4: Nah? 652 00:27:40,921 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: So a lot of boys start in Australia and if 653 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: they can just get a few good wins on you know, 654 00:27:46,001 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: the local circuit, yeah, they can get picked up, especially 655 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: me because I kind of got a little following and 656 00:27:51,521 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: a marketable my size tatoos. So like, for example, if 657 00:27:55,521 --> 00:27:57,761 Speaker 2: I can knock out three dudes this year, I'm sure 658 00:27:57,801 --> 00:28:01,321 Speaker 2: I'll get in. You know, videos go around quickly, you know. 659 00:28:01,721 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: So that's your goal, that's my goal. Now, I'd love 660 00:28:04,521 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: to make your So. 661 00:28:05,761 --> 00:28:09,041 Speaker 1: My main concern, like one hundred and twenty kilos. 662 00:28:09,201 --> 00:28:09,841 Speaker 2: It's a big job. 663 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,841 Speaker 1: It's a fucking huge job. 664 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,441 Speaker 2: Big job, and I lose a lot of what I got, 665 00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:13,441 Speaker 2: which is power. 666 00:28:13,281 --> 00:28:15,681 Speaker 1: And all I've ever seen in the view is massive. Yeah, 667 00:28:15,801 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: like I know that's one hundred and twenty is still big, 668 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,481 Speaker 1: like you know for people, but not not for someone 669 00:28:19,521 --> 00:28:22,761 Speaker 1: like you. For that's like that's like saying, like for 670 00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: a normal person like me, if I got eighty kilos. 671 00:28:24,801 --> 00:28:26,801 Speaker 2: Yeah, the last time I was one hundred and twenty, 672 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: it was sixteens old. Now I'm merely thirty, you know. Yeah. 673 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's what I want to do. It's my sport. 674 00:28:36,241 --> 00:28:38,041 Speaker 1: Is it is what it is, Bro, I'll try and 675 00:28:38,041 --> 00:28:40,681 Speaker 1: get it done. Is there all planned out? Because I 676 00:28:40,721 --> 00:28:42,721 Speaker 1: know you've got to fight. You had my message a 677 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago about the fight that we supposed 678 00:28:44,521 --> 00:28:44,761 Speaker 1: to have to a. 679 00:28:44,761 --> 00:28:46,521 Speaker 2: Hopper and just pulled it out two days ago. 680 00:28:46,841 --> 00:28:47,641 Speaker 1: He's just pulled out. 681 00:28:47,961 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he pulled out. I think he 682 00:28:50,361 --> 00:28:51,161 Speaker 2: just asked for like. 683 00:28:51,321 --> 00:28:53,721 Speaker 1: Just the second time. Now it's been now it was. 684 00:28:53,641 --> 00:28:55,801 Speaker 2: Postponed the first time, and now it was it's booked 685 00:28:55,801 --> 00:28:58,241 Speaker 2: in for April fifth. But the promoter messaged me two 686 00:28:58,281 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: days ago saying he's out. He tried to like hit 687 00:29:00,801 --> 00:29:03,001 Speaker 2: him up for way more money, so I think he 688 00:29:04,241 --> 00:29:06,721 Speaker 2: I think it was more he's seen twice to himself. 689 00:29:06,841 --> 00:29:08,721 Speaker 1: I think he's seeing he's fighting myself. 690 00:29:08,841 --> 00:29:12,161 Speaker 2: But he's hard. Can he'll fight anyone. But I don't know. 691 00:29:12,521 --> 00:29:14,081 Speaker 2: It's a bit disappointing, but I'll get it. 692 00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:15,601 Speaker 1: So what are you going to do now? Then? 693 00:29:15,641 --> 00:29:17,681 Speaker 2: Now we'll get a match. So I just keep training, 694 00:29:17,721 --> 00:29:20,561 Speaker 2: keep dropping a weight. Knock on wood, we don't get injured, 695 00:29:21,281 --> 00:29:23,041 Speaker 2: and let's sit, bro, we'll get back in there. 696 00:29:23,521 --> 00:29:25,721 Speaker 1: What do you want to achieve in twenty twenty five? 697 00:29:25,761 --> 00:29:28,921 Speaker 2: For you? By my birthdays in December. By December, if 698 00:29:28,921 --> 00:29:31,241 Speaker 2: fucking get signed to the UFC, that would be a 699 00:29:31,281 --> 00:29:33,801 Speaker 2: lifelong dream of mine. You know. I want to keep 700 00:29:33,841 --> 00:29:38,121 Speaker 2: improving my mental strength, my mental health, all that shit. 701 00:29:38,161 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm very passionate about now at this stage of my life, 702 00:29:41,001 --> 00:29:44,641 Speaker 2: and fucking drop the weight, get active with the fighting being. 703 00:29:44,761 --> 00:29:48,121 Speaker 2: I've had a bad, bad run of injuries, like really bad, 704 00:29:48,201 --> 00:29:51,481 Speaker 2: you're west injury that you've had. Oh, Bro, I had 705 00:29:51,481 --> 00:29:55,361 Speaker 2: a boxing fight. Ten seconds into the fight, I disslocated 706 00:29:55,361 --> 00:29:57,761 Speaker 2: my sholder ten seconds in the first round. It was 707 00:29:57,761 --> 00:29:59,801 Speaker 2: this big island who's one hundred and sevent The killers 708 00:30:00,001 --> 00:30:01,641 Speaker 2: hit him hard and he came on me, helped me. 709 00:30:02,041 --> 00:30:04,161 Speaker 2: I pushed him off my hard. My shoulder went out. 710 00:30:04,441 --> 00:30:06,961 Speaker 2: So had to fight two rounds with a dangling shoulder, 711 00:30:07,601 --> 00:30:09,361 Speaker 2: and then I went to the hospital. Was trying to 712 00:30:09,481 --> 00:30:12,561 Speaker 2: yank it back into place for like two hours. Couldn't 713 00:30:12,561 --> 00:30:15,081 Speaker 2: get it in. They knocked me out, put me on ketamene. 714 00:30:15,161 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: Finally got it in and then I have to come 715 00:30:17,481 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: back to Sydney. I still couldn't move my arm, so 716 00:30:19,361 --> 00:30:22,681 Speaker 2: I'd torn heaps of ships. Had another surgery that's probably 717 00:30:22,681 --> 00:30:27,401 Speaker 2: the worst one. Torn both biceps off the bone, right shoulder, 718 00:30:27,441 --> 00:30:34,081 Speaker 2: front and back, calf ankle twice. No ligaman in my knee. 719 00:30:34,121 --> 00:30:36,761 Speaker 2: I've had a few bro bulging this low back neck. 720 00:30:37,761 --> 00:30:38,361 Speaker 2: I'm in pain. 721 00:30:39,401 --> 00:30:41,921 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, I'm in pain. But just keep training, Just 722 00:30:41,961 --> 00:30:45,281 Speaker 4: keep going. Any regrets in your life, na, they learned 723 00:30:45,281 --> 00:30:48,681 Speaker 4: from it, Bro. You just learn from it. Yeah, you 724 00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:49,921 Speaker 4: just learn from it. Is what it is. 725 00:30:49,961 --> 00:30:52,641 Speaker 2: You can't turn back time, so just try to make 726 00:30:52,641 --> 00:30:55,561 Speaker 2: the best of it, learn the lesson and move forward. 727 00:30:56,321 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: What would you what would you? What would you describe you? 728 00:30:58,281 --> 00:30:59,121 Speaker 1: In two wards? 729 00:30:59,801 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: You know what? Honestly this will surprise you. I'm a 730 00:31:03,441 --> 00:31:08,641 Speaker 2: big EmPATH. Yeah, yeah, big time. I feel a lot. Wow, Yeah, 731 00:31:09,001 --> 00:31:11,041 Speaker 2: I feel a lot. Bro. I'm going to do a 732 00:31:11,081 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: lot of stuff in the mental health mental strength area 733 00:31:15,681 --> 00:31:16,521 Speaker 2: as I go forward. 734 00:31:16,601 --> 00:31:19,041 Speaker 1: Yeah, you like, do you like helping kids and all 735 00:31:19,081 --> 00:31:19,361 Speaker 1: like that? 736 00:31:19,641 --> 00:31:25,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, I do juvenile like mentoring. It's important work, 737 00:31:25,641 --> 00:31:29,081 Speaker 2: all the good ship you know should do. I'm into it, bro. Yeah, 738 00:31:29,241 --> 00:31:32,361 Speaker 2: because I'm a sweet kid. I'm a sweet guy. I 739 00:31:32,401 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: am a gentle giant. You know. Obviously I can if 740 00:31:35,761 --> 00:31:38,001 Speaker 2: you switch on if I need to. I don't want to, 741 00:31:38,161 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: but if I need to. That's what I kind of 742 00:31:40,321 --> 00:31:43,481 Speaker 2: trained for my life, just to keep myself safe, you know, 743 00:31:43,521 --> 00:31:46,521 Speaker 2: I mean, protect myself. But I'm a sweet guy. You know, 744 00:31:46,521 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: I've got a gentle heart. So I really want to 745 00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:53,081 Speaker 2: try and be, as you said, quite a beast, but 746 00:31:53,561 --> 00:31:56,161 Speaker 2: help people and humble and you know what I mean. 747 00:31:56,241 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: Because you knew what it was like when you were 748 00:31:57,481 --> 00:31:58,241 Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah. 749 00:31:58,281 --> 00:32:00,841 Speaker 2: Correct, that's right. I've been on both sides, you know. 750 00:32:01,481 --> 00:32:05,681 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm a i'd say i'm an EmPATH. Well yeah, 751 00:32:05,721 --> 00:32:06,601 Speaker 2: that's a good one. 752 00:32:06,521 --> 00:32:06,681 Speaker 4: Yeah. 753 00:32:06,721 --> 00:32:11,201 Speaker 2: I like that, you know what, Bro. 754 00:32:11,521 --> 00:32:15,681 Speaker 1: I love that, you know, because this interview was fucking good. 755 00:32:15,801 --> 00:32:19,481 Speaker 1: And the fact is you're very humble guy. 756 00:32:19,561 --> 00:32:19,721 Speaker 2: Bro. 757 00:32:20,041 --> 00:32:22,401 Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, like I got like if I if I 758 00:32:22,441 --> 00:32:25,881 Speaker 1: didn't know when I first met you, like I found it. 759 00:32:26,201 --> 00:32:28,281 Speaker 1: I didn't find it hard to talk to you. But 760 00:32:28,321 --> 00:32:31,401 Speaker 1: you've got to stand offish proana about you, do you think? So, yeah, 761 00:32:31,441 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: there's unless you get to know the person. It's like 762 00:32:34,481 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: you get you have to you have to trust that 763 00:32:36,281 --> 00:32:39,321 Speaker 1: person first before you'll open up to that person fair enough. 764 00:32:39,201 --> 00:32:40,761 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like kind of keep to myself. 765 00:32:40,801 --> 00:32:44,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you're private, but you're also how can 766 00:32:44,441 --> 00:32:48,081 Speaker 1: I say you you srust people out before you want 767 00:32:48,081 --> 00:32:50,401 Speaker 1: to open up a bit more to them, you know 768 00:32:50,441 --> 00:32:50,801 Speaker 1: what I mean. 769 00:32:50,921 --> 00:32:53,481 Speaker 2: Sometimes, especially if I'm not closed back. 770 00:32:53,361 --> 00:32:55,841 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But like, and I know that, 771 00:32:56,121 --> 00:32:57,601 Speaker 1: as I said, when we were there, there was other 772 00:32:57,641 --> 00:33:00,121 Speaker 1: people there, so it's a bit different. But as I've 773 00:33:00,121 --> 00:33:03,321 Speaker 1: got to know you since then, like I've seen you 774 00:33:03,361 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: and even on your videos too, that you you are. 775 00:33:05,641 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: You're a very humble guy. 776 00:33:06,641 --> 00:33:09,921 Speaker 2: Mate. Yeah, bro, Like I'm just being myself. You know, 777 00:33:10,041 --> 00:33:13,121 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to impress anyone. Like whatever someone thinks 778 00:33:13,161 --> 00:33:14,921 Speaker 2: to me, I don't know, it's not my business. I 779 00:33:14,961 --> 00:33:16,881 Speaker 2: don't care. I am who I am. I'm a dad, 780 00:33:17,041 --> 00:33:19,321 Speaker 2: I'm a good dad. I'm a sweet guy, you know 781 00:33:19,361 --> 00:33:22,041 Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm trying to make my dreams as 782 00:33:22,041 --> 00:33:24,761 Speaker 2: a fighter. I was a strong man. Blah blah Blahlah. 783 00:33:24,761 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I am who I am. I'm a good person. I've 784 00:33:26,281 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: got a good heart. And I'll just tell it how 785 00:33:28,521 --> 00:33:30,401 Speaker 1: it is. You think you'll ever do barlifting again? 786 00:33:31,121 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: Maybe one day when I retire from fighting, if I 787 00:33:33,201 --> 00:33:36,361 Speaker 2: can achieve my fighting dreams, I'll get jacked again. So yeah, 788 00:33:36,441 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: I still love it. It's in my blood and it 789 00:33:38,481 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: will take me like twelve weeks because you look. 790 00:33:41,361 --> 00:33:45,841 Speaker 1: Like who wants that title back again? Or you just 791 00:33:45,881 --> 00:33:47,001 Speaker 1: want to do it for the fun of it, the 792 00:33:47,041 --> 00:33:47,361 Speaker 1: love of it. 793 00:33:47,441 --> 00:33:48,921 Speaker 2: Probably the love of it. I don't know if I 794 00:33:48,921 --> 00:33:50,641 Speaker 2: want to get that big again. 795 00:33:50,641 --> 00:33:52,281 Speaker 1: Specially you need to get that big again to get 796 00:33:52,281 --> 00:33:52,601 Speaker 1: that title. 797 00:33:52,721 --> 00:33:55,001 Speaker 2: Probably not. I think I'm more of a technician now. 798 00:33:55,641 --> 00:33:56,761 Speaker 2: You know then I was. Back then it was a 799 00:33:56,761 --> 00:33:59,721 Speaker 2: bit more brute strength. Now I'm a lot more technical, 800 00:34:00,321 --> 00:34:03,201 Speaker 2: which helps. I need to get heavy, but I don't 801 00:34:03,201 --> 00:34:05,521 Speaker 2: think I need to get that heavy again. We'll say, 802 00:34:06,401 --> 00:34:08,801 Speaker 2: I'm sure I will compay it again, but I don't 803 00:34:08,801 --> 00:34:11,361 Speaker 2: think strong man like the strong man competition. I love 804 00:34:11,441 --> 00:34:11,761 Speaker 2: that ship. 805 00:34:11,761 --> 00:34:12,281 Speaker 1: Would you do that? 806 00:34:12,361 --> 00:34:12,961 Speaker 2: Yeah? I would? 807 00:34:13,161 --> 00:34:14,841 Speaker 1: That's see. I can see you doing that me too, 808 00:34:15,161 --> 00:34:16,561 Speaker 1: but then again you've got to put those hounds on 809 00:34:16,561 --> 00:34:16,921 Speaker 1: it again. 810 00:34:17,041 --> 00:34:19,761 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't look I wouldn't be as as heavy 811 00:34:19,841 --> 00:34:22,001 Speaker 2: or as fat as I was because I do care 812 00:34:22,001 --> 00:34:23,721 Speaker 2: about my health. You know, I've got young kids. I 813 00:34:23,761 --> 00:34:27,001 Speaker 2: want to be healthy for them. But I do love 814 00:34:27,041 --> 00:34:29,721 Speaker 2: it bro being big and strong and jack. It's good man, 815 00:34:29,761 --> 00:34:32,561 Speaker 2: it's fucking great. It's great, and I love it, and 816 00:34:32,601 --> 00:34:35,281 Speaker 2: it's in my blood. You know. It's very easy for 817 00:34:35,281 --> 00:34:37,841 Speaker 2: me to get strong and it's a nice feeling. So 818 00:34:38,041 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: one day I'll be back. 819 00:34:39,841 --> 00:34:42,481 Speaker 1: Thanks man, Thank you, b Yeah, thanks for having me 820 00:34:42,521 --> 00:34:43,241 Speaker 1: appreciate it.