WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 9 June

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Sherry,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to James Morrow for holding the fort for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days. I had that extra long weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, the days off finish.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to run and take one week off post election,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know there's a big run before that, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of sneaky Thursdays, the odds Sunday. Anyway, back on

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<v Speaker 1>deck and all guns blazing. All right, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot tonight, including Yeah, I'll get all the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you expect me to talk about, including some stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard that's taken place over the past few days.

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<v Speaker 1>But breaking news is cold in winter, but it's particularly

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<v Speaker 1>cold at the start of this winter. Now, yes, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else can run off and say why they think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, and why everyone needs to have more renewable

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<v Speaker 1>power whatever, boring the stuff that's been beautiful to have

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<v Speaker 1>a lookout, and I hope nobody's been caught up in

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<v Speaker 1>this in the negative side. If you're watching us in

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<v Speaker 1>the central west of New South Wales, remember we did

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<v Speaker 1>an outown from Orange a few weeks ago. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>snow is falling there. All it's good if like mine,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids have never seen snow, so if you get

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of pre warning of this stuff, go and

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<v Speaker 1>check out regional parts of Australia which might at little

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<v Speaker 1>dusting here or there. However, there were some other issues

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<v Speaker 1>including what about it in and around Mount Howtham. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>not just cold but a snow dump. People who ended

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<v Speaker 1>up well, hikers got caught and a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people ended up spending last night in that weather in

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<v Speaker 1>their cars. Well done to the Victorian Sees, the Nissowales

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<v Speaker 1>Police and all of the local officials in and around

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<v Speaker 1>places like Hawtham, Threadbow and all the rest of it

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<v Speaker 1>that had to go and get people in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of those snowstorms. Not stuff we expect in Australia, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is something that becomes very usual. And now there's

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<v Speaker 1>more cameraphones than ever before, so we know about every

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<v Speaker 1>little thing that happened, including what a way to spend

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<v Speaker 1>part of the King's Birthday long weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>The road was actually closed and there were signs and

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<v Speaker 2>barricades up, but the physical gate hadn't been locked yet

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<v Speaker 2>for the winter that was due to happen this Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>And we did what we could have had weekend which

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<v Speaker 3>was putting out the signage, not defying people. But that

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<v Speaker 3>process to formally close the road takes a number of days.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got to get the agreement of vic pol Parksvick

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<v Speaker 3>and Deeca. They've got to basically satisfy themselves that we're

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<v Speaker 3>not locking people into the park.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as always, the paperwork's fault. Now, the weather did

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<v Speaker 1>extend pretty cold morning in the southeast of Queensland all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through to parts of Victoria again start of winter, surprise, surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>but still it's worth learning exactly why this little snap

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<v Speaker 1>is happening right now. And of course Sky News I say,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hour Weather Service.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been very cold throughout the southeast over the past

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<v Speaker 2>few days and of course rather windy with plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>wet weather all floating about.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's on account of this low which is continuing to

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<v Speaker 2>hover off the east coast of New South Wales, really

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<v Speaker 2>stirring up a little bit of trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, little bit of good news, not enough to say

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<v Speaker 1>that it is a drought broken. But where it wasn't snow,

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<v Speaker 1>there was rain, and there was a lot of rain

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<v Speaker 1>that made it into regional Victoria in the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days, like thirty mils in some parts. I was

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<v Speaker 1>noticing some people on social media saying that it was

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<v Speaker 1>even a whole lot more than that. So thankfully some

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<v Speaker 1>just some of the areas that have been drought affected

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<v Speaker 1>of recent times, and we know that they have not

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<v Speaker 1>been getting the support that they needed. The local communities

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<v Speaker 1>have been blowing up about that. We're going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. But a little bit of rain again,

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<v Speaker 1>sky On is weather with some good news of follow

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<v Speaker 1>up again. This never happens on the news, does it.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell you what's going wrong with they never tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the follow up with. He's a follow up, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of rain to those who need it most.

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<v Speaker 2>Into South Australia and this is a location that has

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<v Speaker 2>had some pretty decent totals over the past week or so,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's of course much welcome given all the drought

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<v Speaker 2>effective regions that have been just missing out constantly for

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<v Speaker 2>the past few months.

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<v Speaker 1>All right to politics now, and the final seat was

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<v Speaker 1>awarded of the federal election. Yes, many weeks ago. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like months ago, but it of course was just

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. And it's the teal who gets the final seat,

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<v Speaker 1>winning by just a bare few eyes and she going

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<v Speaker 1>to love her time on Radio National. The Teal wins

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<v Speaker 1>Bradfield won that the Liberal Party at held for the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of seventy years. She didn't win it buy

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. It had required a recount and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pushing back and forth on how those votes were

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<v Speaker 1>being encountered, but the margin was about as fin as

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<v Speaker 1>you can get.

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<v Speaker 5>The electorate of Bradfield came down to just twenty six votes.

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<v Speaker 5>The Electoral Commission declared Independent Nicola Buller the winner by

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<v Speaker 5>just twenty six votes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as for the Liberal Party, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the person who was in front at one point in

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<v Speaker 1>time and then ended up losing the seat was actually

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<v Speaker 1>named in the Shadow Ministry, that was a silly call.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a chance this might go off to court. Most

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<v Speaker 1>likely nothing will change. Teal wins the seat. Why am

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<v Speaker 1>I talking about this week's after the election, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>two groups of people who just deserve a real thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for delivering us another Teal. We thought that we

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<v Speaker 1>were one down when it came to Zoe Daniel, while

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<v Speaker 1>we get one back now in the case of this

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<v Speaker 1>new person representing the seat of Bradfield. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>votes and in terms of the first preference votes, the

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<v Speaker 1>person who has been elected to Parliament as the Member

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<v Speaker 1>for Bradfield got, as you can see, about a quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of the vote. A quarter of the vote. Yet the

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<v Speaker 1>way the preference system works, and of course generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're running against a Liberal, all bar one or

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<v Speaker 1>two are preferencing against you. Hence why we get where

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<v Speaker 1>we were going. But there are two groups in particular

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<v Speaker 1>that the teal should be there very thankful for, and

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<v Speaker 1>we should never forget the extra teal that will be

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<v Speaker 1>brought to Australian politics with a margin of twenty six votes,

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<v Speaker 1>was preferenced by the trumpet of patriots. Remember the people

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<v Speaker 1>who said we've got to have trumpier politics. While they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to preference the teal before the Liberal, they got

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<v Speaker 1>the best part of a one thousand votes in the seat.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if twenty six people decided to follow that

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<v Speaker 1>how to Vote card, thank you so much. So every

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<v Speaker 1>time we get the teal and we see this ticular

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<v Speaker 1>teal on television and we'll be told how to live

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<v Speaker 1>our lives by this teal, thank you so much to

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<v Speaker 1>the how to Vote card. Of the trumpet of patriots. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that not many people even in the electorate

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<v Speaker 1>have heard of, played quite a significant role. This bloke

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<v Speaker 1>apparently was a former Liberal member, as in a paid

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<v Speaker 1>up and proud member of the Liberal Party, and he

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<v Speaker 1>decided to run as it independent, resigning from the party.

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<v Speaker 1>On the day or day before or think of the

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<v Speaker 1>election being called, he put out his how to vote

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<v Speaker 1>card where guess what the number one person who got

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<v Speaker 1>his preferences was the Labor Party. Labor Party at number two,

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<v Speaker 1>the former Liberal member who was a Liberal member apparently

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<v Speaker 1>the start of this year, handed in his gun and

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<v Speaker 1>badge who run as it independent and hand four thousand votes,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them when it comes to preferences, first to

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<v Speaker 1>Labor and then eventually to the Teal. His explanation as

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<v Speaker 1>to why we will now have another teal, remember up

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<v Speaker 1>and proud member of the Liberal Party, was this.

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<v Speaker 6>Pointing Labor number two is a strong sign that I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not going to support Peter Dunnet in the leadership. But

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<v Speaker 6>the reason I've put at Labor second is to send

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<v Speaker 6>a strong message criticism on the current leader of the

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<v Speaker 6>Liberal Party, which is Peter Dutton. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>Chinese Australians have been let down and disappointed by the

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<v Speaker 6>remarks that Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 4>Has made in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>He served as the Minister of Defense during twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 6>one and he was someone that emphasized that Australia should

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<v Speaker 6>prepare for war and he wasn't able to depreciate between China,

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<v Speaker 6>which is Beijing CCP and the local Chinese community, and

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<v Speaker 6>that has unfortunately disappointed a lot of Chinese Australians who

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<v Speaker 6>have been running small businesses here for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 6>who raise a family here, who have been paying taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing to see between them about five thousand votes. The

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<v Speaker 1>preferences of the trumpeter patriots and the bloke who would

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<v Speaker 1>paid up in proud form a Liberal member is why

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<v Speaker 1>we now have thank you so much to both of you. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Australia forever be thankful now, as

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<v Speaker 1>we know an awful lot of people are well. Many

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<v Speaker 1>may be working a second job with us blaring away

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<v Speaker 1>on the TV or Sky News radio in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe check us out on sky News dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the other ways that there are to

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<v Speaker 1>watch this program, both live, the apps and all the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it. Well, today we learn about just how

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<v Speaker 1>many people are working more than one job. Now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me translate six and a half percent of people into

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<v Speaker 1>how many people in Australia more than one job? Basically

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<v Speaker 1>a million people, nine hundred and sixty three thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia have more than one job. Well, of course, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just young people that might have one or two

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<v Speaker 1>jobs so they can make their way through university. Not really,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a big difference between men and women in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of who has a second job. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>cast of characters, and by that I mean people with

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<v Speaker 1>more than one job. It's been playing out since March

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. Basically, the darker red line is female workers.

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<v Speaker 1>There are more of them that have more than one job. Now, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to age groups, yes there are more

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<v Speaker 1>young people and those are the blue lines, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>whether we're talking about June, September, December or March. Quarters

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<v Speaker 1>that basically, from left to right, the left is the

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<v Speaker 1>light blue all the way through to gray, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest of workers. But you can see consistently what

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<v Speaker 1>that picture is, and certainly a big spike of it

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<v Speaker 1>in and around September of last year. But again, oh well, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't this just people that are working your two jobs?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe mackers and they've got a side hustle. Well, No,

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<v Speaker 1>of the nine hundred and sixty three thousand people who

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<v Speaker 1>have more than one job, guess what the number one

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<v Speaker 1>industry is that those people have more than one job in.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not fast food retail, It is not delivering meals.

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<v Speaker 1>It is in actual fact, health care, healthcare and social assistance.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and ninety one thousand of the nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty thousand are in that particular area. Again, multiple jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's double the amount, give or take, that are there

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<v Speaker 1>in the retail sector. So more women those particular jobs. Yes, younger,

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<v Speaker 1>but still plenty of people all the way through too

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<v Speaker 1>close to retirement age working more than one job to

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<v Speaker 1>make their way through what, of course, is an economy

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<v Speaker 1>that's turned a corner. Amazingly the election result that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to matter, that people were working two jobs in

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<v Speaker 1>highly professionalized areas in order to make ends meet, And

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<v Speaker 1>there were many fascinating things. As always, when you get

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days off, you get the chance to

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<v Speaker 1>read and listen to when you're not having to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>the daily show, which of course central joy of my

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<v Speaker 1>professional life. But Nick cat, who's of course the boss

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mensies Research Center, he wrote an absolutely fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>argument trying to get him on the show in the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of days in The Australian Today. Because you

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<v Speaker 1>know how we always talking about the generational divide and

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<v Speaker 1>generation wars and all the rest of it. Well, in part,

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<v Speaker 1>he's wanting us to focus on the youngest of voters

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<v Speaker 1>because they have grown up in pretty terrible times. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>many people who might be on the center or setter

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<v Speaker 1>right of Australian politics believe that regardless of what side

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<v Speaker 1>of politics is in power, we're sort of managing the decline.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people believe the difference between Team Red and

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<v Speaker 1>Team Blue is just how slow we go down the hill. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that Nick expands a little more on.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those who want to just dismiss all issues

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<v Speaker 1>of young people, who cares? Isn't that triple j isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that a thing for TikTok? Guess what they vote and

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<v Speaker 1>they will replace the people who will no longer vote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the way life works, Okay, let's read what

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<v Speaker 1>Nick had to say. Entery adult is no longer a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful moment as it once was, the gateway to independence,

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<v Speaker 1>charged with the thrill of possibility. It's easy to mock

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<v Speaker 1>Generation z's TikTok videos and Instagram loops as they stare

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<v Speaker 1>into their front facing camera of history and lament the

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<v Speaker 1>hardship of growing up amid historic prosperity in an exceptionally

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful and affluent country. But here's where it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>the big point. Today's young adults grew up under a

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<v Speaker 1>cloud of catastrophism and the normalization of decline. So think

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<v Speaker 1>about that in terms of the catastrophism right now. Easy

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<v Speaker 1>part to say is, well, that's the climate change climate

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophism right well. Also, as he makes the point in

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<v Speaker 1>the article, don't forget these were the people who may

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<v Speaker 1>well have either been pulled out of the final years

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<v Speaker 1>of school, or the first years of university, or the

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<v Speaker 1>first years of working, all to do with the overreaction

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to matters to do with, let alone,

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<v Speaker 1>the catastrophization. You will never own a house, You will

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<v Speaker 1>never earn enough money to be able to build a

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<v Speaker 1>life for yourself. On top of seeing, yes, the country

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<v Speaker 1>that any of us that were lucky enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>alive in the early two thousands, the nineties, the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>or previous decades before that, when in many ways you

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<v Speaker 1>could fight your way from the bottom to the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're particularly lucky, you could make it all

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<v Speaker 1>the way towards the tippy top. But that is harder

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<v Speaker 1>than ever before for a whole bunch of reasons, fair

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<v Speaker 1>and unfair, which gets to the final point that Nick makes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the reason I want to interview him on

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<v Speaker 1>the show in the next couple of days. Right, this

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<v Speaker 1>is how economic and moral declinism begins. Self reliance is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer a virtue but a fiscal inconvenience. He's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how our modern politics now is all about the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that triangle of dependency I've talked about lot, where

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<v Speaker 1>you're either working for the government or you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>hand out from the government or your business, your beaus

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<v Speaker 1>client as the government. What he goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we are passed beyond the Nani state to something far

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<v Speaker 1>more insidious, their helicopter state, where the government hovers, micromanagers

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<v Speaker 1>and intervenes not just to protect but to preempt and

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<v Speaker 1>infantilizes Generation Z has grown up in a world of

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<v Speaker 1>regulated choices, apparently incapable of navigating life without ministerial intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said Nick, again, I know if he's in lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different places, and I won't take him away from

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<v Speaker 1>any other the commitments that he has two other programs.

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<v Speaker 1>But I look forward to a conversation about this because

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<v Speaker 1>this is big boy pad stuff. This is a serious

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about the future of our country, about how the

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<v Speaker 1>center right can reach out to say there is a

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<v Speaker 1>different way, There is a different way where you can

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<v Speaker 1>be in charge of your future, where you if you

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<v Speaker 1>back yourself, if you take risk, then the reward can

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<v Speaker 1>be way bigger than what you are risking, because we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that is missing. But also we can't pretend

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<v Speaker 1>that there's not a whole bunch of young people who've

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<v Speaker 1>got lots of great ideas about how they want to

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<v Speaker 1>build a future for themselves. And yes, that might be

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<v Speaker 1>an app on a device which you and I might

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<v Speaker 1>not be using, but they're going to make a huge

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<v Speaker 1>chunk of change out of it. Equally, so kids in

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<v Speaker 1>year ten right now should be actively told that there

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<v Speaker 1>are two doors you can go through. Yes, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to university and all the rest of it and

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<v Speaker 1>become a good little Greens believer, but you can also

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<v Speaker 1>go through this door and become a tradee and in

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<v Speaker 1>more money than any philosophy degree will ever get you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's part of talking about that self reliance, because yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a long hard road if you're an apprentice to

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<v Speaker 1>then to be able to stand on your own two food.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyone who knows anyone I was talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>chippy this weekend. Their plan is to eventually get the

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<v Speaker 1>ABN to be able to go off, have a few

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<v Speaker 1>blokes and the sheelers working for them all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to go often build a business. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the path. So there is a role for all of

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<v Speaker 1>us to play in inspiring not shitcanning, but inspiring the

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<v Speaker 1>next generation of voters because it currently sits. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no way that they're going to be voting the way

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<v Speaker 1>that we do, and the way not to have the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation so they vote that way, but just to have

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation so everyone can start understanding each other, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can show them the story of your own life

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<v Speaker 1>or your parent's life. Because again I was thinking a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about this over the weekend, where I am of

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<v Speaker 1>that generation that still is impressed by what their parents did,

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<v Speaker 1>who is impressed by what their grandparents did. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that somebody who's thirty or twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't admire their parents or grandparents. But I admire the

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<v Speaker 1>war service of my grandparents. I admire the home front

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<v Speaker 1>of their families left behind. I admire the open fields

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<v Speaker 1>that turned into quartuacre blocks and suburbia that organized itself

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<v Speaker 1>around a sense of values and to have a country

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<v Speaker 1>that many many people have joined since. But people who

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<v Speaker 1>buy into how good is this joint? Not how good

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<v Speaker 1>is this joint? Now, let's turn it into some other joint.

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<v Speaker 1>And for Gen X's we're sort of court sometimes between

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<v Speaker 1>what we keep being told is the fashionable future and

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<v Speaker 1>the honoring of our parents who work so hard, of

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<v Speaker 1>course in the seventies and eighties and nineties, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm coming from. Had this whole thing planned about

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<v Speaker 1>whether I get into the meaning of what I try

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<v Speaker 1>to bring to the show each and every night, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll tease that out over the next few days.

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<v Speaker 1>But part of that conversation is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>chat with Nick, because I think there's something in this

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us, not just political, but about an understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm done with the generation wars, right, I'm done

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<v Speaker 1>with young people blaming old people and old people just

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring young people. Okay, I get it. Sometimes both are

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<v Speaker 1>going to annoy each other. And as Grandpa Simpson so

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<v Speaker 1>spectacularly said, when Homer Simpson was coming to the Forge

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<v Speaker 1>and he was starting to be the one in the

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<v Speaker 1>family that was more culturally, you know, right on man,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I used to be cool, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>changed what cool was, and now what's cool is weird

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<v Speaker 1>and scary, as it was for grandparents parents in my case,

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<v Speaker 1>gen X and many of the wonderful, inspirational young people

0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.960
<v Speaker 1>who we work with on this show each and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know many young people watching us, including two

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<v Speaker 1>very beautiful little one was barely a teenager when he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a teenager in a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of young people come up to me when we

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<v Speaker 1>do the shows, particularly in regional areas, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>literally people as have said, Hey, we've watched you every

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<v Speaker 1>day of our lives. We've been around for fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys matter the most, right because it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>that we keep living our lives and getting involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations. But you're the ones they're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>the joint, hopefully in a better direction than any of

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<v Speaker 1>us could dream of. So if you are a young

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<v Speaker 1>person watching us for the first time or for the

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousandth time, thank you. I really appreciate it, honestly

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<v Speaker 1>I do. And to the parents who made them watch

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<v Speaker 1>all right, now, let's talk about the honors system because

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm going to say exactly what I say

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<v Speaker 1>around the Australia Day Honors, around the Queen's Birthday honors,

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<v Speaker 1>and every time this stuff happens, right, congratulations to everyone

0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 1>who got one. But the system is broken. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>people like the former boss of the Business Lobby Group

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<v Speaker 1>they got one, as you know, broadcasters like the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who used to wear black on the ABC, he got one.

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<v Speaker 1>And even the person in charge of the Australian Electoral

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<v Speaker 1>Commission got one. Now I am not having a crack

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<v Speaker 1>at anyone who is like a volunteer organization. You deserve

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<v Speaker 1>this moment in the sun. But the boss of the AEC,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, Scott Morrison, is the most recent former prime

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<v Speaker 1>minister to receive the recognition, exactly the same as Kevin Right,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same as Julie Gillard, exactly the same as

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<v Speaker 1>every prime minister has ever thus got. But of course,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's Scott Morrison, well we all know some of

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction that was going to be to all of this. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>here is the former prime minister speaking about being honored

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<v Speaker 1>by his country on this day.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm very humbled by the recognition and thankful to the

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<v Speaker 7>Australian people who gave me the opportunity to serve as

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<v Speaker 7>Prime Minister during one of the most difficult periods in

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<v Speaker 7>Australia's history.

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<v Speaker 1>I like him, always have, always will, regardless of electoral results,

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<v Speaker 1>and regardless of how culture moves with or against you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a very decent man, and all the

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<v Speaker 1>best to his wife Jenny, and these beautiful girls as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wonderful honor, but of course because it's Scott Morrison, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the left will not accept it. The entire system needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be changed. And somebody decided to write this little

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:54.719
<v Speaker 1>piece in the Channel on newspapers today, Jenna Price honoring

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Scott Morrison makes a mockery of our award Fifthdom. News

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<v Speaker 1>of Grison's honor devastated me. I've been writing about the

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<v Speaker 1>honors blah blah blah since a long time, when she

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<v Speaker 1>was a young reporter. I've written about the good ones,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad ones. I've endlessly written about the disproportionate number

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<v Speaker 1>of men, the disproportionate number from wealthy postcodes, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that some of our most brilliant First nation citizens are

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<v Speaker 1>left off the list. I've berated the number of people

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<v Speaker 1>that get these awards, but the award to Scott Morrison

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely takes the cake for poor judgment and bad timing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it is twelve months since perhaps the worst example of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody getting a little gold medal for their time in

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<v Speaker 1>public service was first announced, the former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly insulting he got it fought services to public health.

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<v Speaker 1>This is despite the fact that how many bits of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence do you need about the over the top lockdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>You get it, the kids that suffered, the community that suffered.

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<v Speaker 1>But I noticed she had nothing to say when Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Andrews got this. The point of these honest is that

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should only be like one hundred of

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<v Speaker 1>them given out every year. They should obviously go to

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<v Speaker 1>the non famous people who are the volunteers who walk

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<v Speaker 1>amongst us, the people who do incredible work on top

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<v Speaker 1>of their work. Maybe we could extend it out to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who make the country a better place because

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<v Speaker 1>of say scientific in Depth, something like that. But the

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<v Speaker 1>gravy train includes all of the former politicians. The ones

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<v Speaker 1>we voted for are the ones we despise. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be changing that system because of course all

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<v Speaker 1>the people that are currently in charge of the system

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<v Speaker 1>all want the little gold badge as well. Now, every

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<v Speaker 1>time I talk about this, I'll get some angry email

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<v Speaker 1>from someone somewhere saying, hey, how dare you attack everyone

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>who's received one of these? No, to those who have

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>received them, congratulations. Moving forward, my suggestion is to make

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:59.119
<v Speaker 1>these things even more valuable to people. They shouldn't be

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>for your preferretional service. They should be for your community service.

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<v Speaker 1>If your profession is dealing with the community service, well

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>then you've already been recognized. But if you're somebody who's

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>been doing incredible work in a volunteer capacity, then yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be the first in line to cheer you on.

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<v Speaker 1>Many non famous people received honors today to will of

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<v Speaker 1>them in particular congratulations. So the people who will write

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<v Speaker 1>me the same emails, please my point, listen to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just all for the headline that's going to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Westercott's not an example of one of the non famous. Particularly,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not talk about what's happening in the United States,

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>particularly Los Angeles, particularly in and around California. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole cadre of people who have been waiting, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean waiting with baited breath from the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump put his hand up, took the oath, and

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>became president for the second time forty five and forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>They hate every moment he's in the Oval Office, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've been trying to pretend that we are on the

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<v Speaker 1>absolute verge of a third world country where orange chase

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<v Speaker 1>and nuclear weapons. Yeah, this is what fascism looks like.

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<v Speaker 8>Similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening now

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<v Speaker 8>in America are just undeniable. It's particularly chilling because in

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<v Speaker 8>nineteen thirty nine, more than twenty thousand supporters of a

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 8>different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the garden for a

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 8>so called pro America rally.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't want to be compared to the folks

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<v Speaker 5>who held rallies like that in nineteen thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't hold rallies like that.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't want to be called a fascist, stop

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<v Speaker 5>constantly acting out the dictionary definition of fascist.

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<v Speaker 9>Every American that is supporting Trump right now needs to

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<v Speaker 9>understand that they are absolutely supporting fascism if they vote

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<v Speaker 9>for Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>That a former president is a fascist and a danger

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<v Speaker 1>to this country is just inconceivable.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and then they proved it.

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<v Speaker 1>To quote a friend Nudu Farage boring. But they've got

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>their mind now because the evil president is ordering troops

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:06.959
<v Speaker 1>to shoot a innocent people on the streets of Los Angeles,

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because the millions of people that have entered the country

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<v Speaker 1>illegally are now slowly, maturely being held to account saying

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>do you have the paperwork? Are you a legitimate American citizen?

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Then guess what it's about? Time to leave. Ah, But

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>these protesters, they're playing four day chess. They're on a

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>huge moral high compared to Orange Man. Bad oh, oh,

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>just such bravery, such bravery. Now, of course, when we

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>see evidence, and if there is any evidence of innocence

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>being hauled off the streets, then I'll be the first

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to call it, because you know what, I can recognize

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>good Trump, bad Trump, Meanta, and at times a man

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>on an island. Because of course, unless you say everything's

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>amazing or everything's terrible, then nobody's gonna talk to you.

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't care. Still proud of the photo, right, Okay, But

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>he's got every right to do what the American people

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>absolutely hired him to do, which is, if you're an

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>illegal in the country, see you later, no question. All right,

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>start with the bad onbres as they say, and work

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>your way through. But there are tens of millions of

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>people that are in the country illegally, something that we

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>should not tolerate in this country, that New Zealand, Tuvalu,

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>or anywhere else. Because a country without borders is basically

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>not a country at all. And I love so many

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of the lefties that are out there and winging on

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the Behalf of those, of course, would either live in

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a gated community or lock their own doors at night.

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a metaphor for how you run the country. As

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>for Trump, unsurprisingly, he's going to roll on with this

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>because of course it makes we don't talk about it

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>elon if you.

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Have violent people, and we're not going to let him

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>get away with it.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>If we see danger to our country and to our citizens,

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be very, very strong in terms of law

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and order. It's about law and order. As for the

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>local ladies, they now have their opportunity to turn around

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and say, look, Orange Man bad, We warned you, we

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>warned you. This is the fourth Rock.

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 10>There was no need to federalize troops and so to

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 10>have this here is really just a provocation and something

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 10>that was not needed in our city.

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 9>Donald Trump has created the conditions you see on your

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 9>TV tonight. He's exacerbated the conditions. He's lit the Brobbial match.

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 9>He's putting fuel on this fire ever since he announced

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 9>he was taking over the National Guard in a legal

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.719
<v Speaker 9>act and a moral act, an unconstitutional act, and we're

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 9>going to test that theory with a lawsuit tomorrow.

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable. Right. These are the people that are, of course,

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>are just desperately trying to get on the right side

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>of public opinion. After that, they were the ones, including

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the lady at the start, the LA mayor who was

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>so bad in the fires. May how terrible her and

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Nuisance were in the fires. Well, now it's the chance

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to light the emotional one and then this is the

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 1>bit that is going to get me in the most trouble.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>But I sadly think it needs to be said, why

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>do people bring national flags of anything other than the

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>nation that they are in when they're involved in a

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>dispute like this that in and of itself could take

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>many hours for us to discuss. But it's a perfect

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>example of what can be wrong in many of our countries,

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>countries like Australia, where we have protests where people are

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>waving around a flag of the country that they don't

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>live in. Why now, you can simultaneously be a proud

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Australian and a citizen of the world. You can be

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a proud American and a citizen of the world. But

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>why are you waving the flag of the country that

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>apparently you either wanted to leave or you're not a

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>citizen of, or you don't living Again, I said, I'll

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>get into trouble, so I mon't stop it there quick

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>breakpack with more plenty to talk about here this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for watching. Paul Murray Live. Nice

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to be back this Monday night after a couple of

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>nights off again. Thank you so much to James Morrow,

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>who is in the man cave next here on Paul

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Murray Live. Now he was in the host share and

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>just kicked kicked backside being polite as possible here on

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Thursday and Sunday night, the Great James Morrow, on top

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of all of his other commitments, started Sunday's Friday Nights

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Telegraph all the rest of it. Did you have fun hosting?

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Had a great time? Good, isn't it? It's a lot

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of fun. Is the best seat in Australia's house? Yeah,

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and it ain't moving. But to book him anytime, You're

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>work them anytime, all right, Henry Parke. Of course there

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is an l MP MP and he joins us now

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>from Queensland. Love you to see you too, mate. So

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to the gretta of everything and we

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about what's going on in LA because your column

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>today was absolutely nailing the nonsense that's happening there and

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>what really is about apparently part of the trade negotiations

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to maybe get rid of the ten percent global tariff

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>which the Trump administration has placed on Australia. There's a

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>chance that we might be changing some of the rules

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the importation of beef, particularly American beef.

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Now what's really interesting about this is that generally speaking,

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>we're not into that. Why because we want to try

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to protect our own farmers in our own industry. But

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>on top of all of that, you need to know

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>that Brazilian beef, which it previously had it's mad cow

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>issues and all the rest of it in a long

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>time ago, is now starting to be welcomed back into

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the global frame. And of course, because they pay their

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>people Brazilian wages not Australian, it ends up being cheaper.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>So is the Australian beef industry going to be under

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>some sort of attack either to get a deal done

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>or it's all global? And of course all of these

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>people sit in seats of the Labour Party were willing

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to flush down the tut James, Look, where's the beef

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and where's it going to go?

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.479
<v Speaker 10>Well, it's a really interod question here because you know,

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 10>we make fantastic beef Heuropes, I mean, some of the

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 10>best beef in the world. America also, though raises some

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 10>of the best beef in the world too, as you

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 10>would know. And there's a big difference, you know. Here

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 10>we're born to the sort of the grass fed. There

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 10>they have that beautiful, great finished with the barbling and

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 10>like god, you love a USDA Prime steak, you know

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 10>when they do that, think the steakhouses and it's all

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 10>crusty on the top. How good is that?

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>You gotta Smith and Wilenski's, Yes, sparks, ah Marks, sparks

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to day, I've got to say, and cans all sorts

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>of fantastic steakhouses.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 10>You don't go to Chapel twenty twenty in Merckville. Yes,

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 10>he's a great steak there.

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>By the way, when people used to mention restaurants on Tebo,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>they used to get stuff for free. Now now him

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>full price.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 10>Right, So it's just actually in say this, but what

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 10>we're talking about here though, But yeah, but we do

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 10>love our Chapel twenty in America. They are great people.

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>But this is a reallyation because I think if you tried.

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<v Speaker 10>To bring Australian American beef into Australia, I don't think

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 10>it would have a lot of pickup, no, you know,

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 10>I think. But then there's also another thing that we

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 10>have to acknowledge here, and that is and you sort

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 10>of hinted at it just there, Paul, when Donald Trump

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 10>came out and said, hey, we're gonna do these tariffs,

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 10>We're gonna start protecting our own stuff, well, it kind

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 10>of brought out that, you know, the EU and Australia

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 10>and a lot of other countries have been tariffing and

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 10>in fact just blocking things. Now. You know, biosecurity mayor

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 10>bay not be the reason, but there's an awful lot

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 10>of you know, protection as well as for our beef farmers.

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 10>And you know, I love our beef farmers. I love

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 10>all of our Limary producers are great and you know,

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 10>and we just do fantastic beef here. And I don't

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 10>know that would be you know, much cheaper. I don't

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 10>think you'd get that sort of you know, I don't

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 10>think the mark would would take it.

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.479
<v Speaker 1>Up position, which is, well, no, I didn't say I'm

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>taking the free treatment. No no, no, no, no no no

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>no no, no, sorry, I have taken it. I just

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>put my hand on the grill a.

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<v Speaker 10>Little bit because because actually, no, no, no, I am

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 10>a modified free trader, you know, and I actually just

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.479
<v Speaker 10>think that, you know, when do you start to attack

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 10>Donald Trump or tabs, you have to acknowledge that we

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 10>all do and that it is fair for countries to

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 10>protect their industry.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Fair point, Henry, We had lots of plugs and lots

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>of things in there, so we apologize for keeping you waiting,

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>but important things needed to be our good people by

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the way, So again, do you think this is something

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that the government should go anywhere near being willing to trade.

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think we should be compromising biosecurity standards at all.

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I think James makes a lot of good points. I

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 4>don't think there's going to be a strong market for

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 4>American beef here. But I think the most important thing

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 4>is we set these rules for a reason. It's not

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 4>necessarily against American beef. We actually allow American beef imports here,

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 4>but we just don't allow them if they are from

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 4>cows that have come from elsewhere or have the risk

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 4>of coming from elsewhere. We want to ensure that we've

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 4>got eyes on all the you know, from the from

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the start of their lives through to when they finished.

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 4>We want to ensure that we have the proper biosecurity

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 4>measures and Unfortunately we don't have those in other areas

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 4>of the American continent, so we have to make sure

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 4>that nothing is going to compromise our beef industry here.

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 4>And I think the government should be sending a really

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 4>strong message to the Americans that we're not willing to

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 4>compromise on that. We're happy to talk, happy to get

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 4>around the table, but in terms of austray and biosecurity,

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 4>that's the line that we have never crossed in the

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 4>past and we shouldn't cross now.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Can I also give a shout out to Mumu in

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Brisbane and the Gold Coast and on reader's behalf or

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to Francois in Melbourne. She loves us taken the middle

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>of the night. All right, Now, let's get to something

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you'll see, which is one of the things the Labour

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Party put on the table at the last election was

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to increase the amount of subsidies for people to

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>have solo on their roof batteries at home. Now, Henry,

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 1>to me, this seems like another version of something that

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>frankly worked previously, which is when Tony Abbott was talking

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>about things like direct action right able to essentially bring

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>your power bills down by getting off the grid is

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a good idea. But of course, as soon as you

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>start to put free money on, here come the cowboys.

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>How do you think this is going to go in

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of years?

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 4>What we've seen similar schemes rolled out in South Australia

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 4>and Victoria and they haven't really had the level of

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 4>take up that those governments are anticipating.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 1>The fear that.

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 4>I've got, Paul, is that ultimately, when you go down

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 4>the path with these schemes, you're ultimately taking away from

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 4>those who can least afford it and giving it to

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 4>those who actually can afford to put on a battery

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 4>or a solar system within their home. So I've got

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 4>concerns about the inequity of this. I look at the

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 4>constituents of mine who are struggling to put food on

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 4>the table, struggling to make ends meat, and I just

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 4>worry about the costs that we're imposing on them in

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 4>order to subsidize those who can probably afford to put

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 4>on these sort of systems.

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you think you're too, because look self

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>off the grid, lots of people I'm doing well.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 10>It makes sense in certain circumstances, you know, like it

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 10>may it makes sense if you've got a country place,

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 10>you know, you gotta have a solar battery and when

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 10>the power goes out, the battery kicks in.

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>That sort of thing.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 10>But dive into this program, you know, you're talking about

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 10>two point three billion dollars. Two point three billion dollars,

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 10>you know, on top of everything else. Here's the thing

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 10>that struck because this article that was in The Australian

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 10>about this the company there's these five different kinds of

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 10>batteries that you can have and you can sign up

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 10>for it and they'll manage the power and maybe you

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 10>get some money back, and it's it was very sort

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 10>of whiz bang and cool. But two point three billion

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 10>dollars to get a battery. Now, I looked at the

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 10>companies that made these batteries and almost all of them

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 10>guess where they make their batteries.

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh, China, China, that's correct, China.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 10>And and and here's the thing, you know, this is

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 10>the this is not you know, the Albanezi government talks

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 10>about the future Made in Australia program, but it's giving

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 10>all of this money to these future Made in China programs,

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 10>which is exactly what everything renewable, the solar, the batteries

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 10>and all of that is. I have an idea for

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 10>a power system. It's revolutionary. You come home, you flick

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 10>a switch, the lights go on, You pay a pretty

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 10>reasonable price for it, and everything just works. We used

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 10>to have that in this country. We used to have it. Yeah,

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 10>take me back to this next by.

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, all right, Well, thankfully our time machine

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>will not be solid power. We've got a diesel generator

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>hooked up to it. So I'll see you after the show.

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, quick break back with more back with these lads. James,

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>get ready because you're about to fire up about rubber bullets,

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles and a lot of fruitcakes trying to pretend

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Orange man bad. Thanks very much for watching a little

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>TV update in the moment or two is time my

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the end of the project. Henry Pike, the

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>LNP member, joins us now from beautiful Coins and kiss

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>the ground on the way out of the studio for

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>me mate, and none other than the one for James Morrow. Well,

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you can kiss anywhere you want the man cave, you know,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to know what else you could say this skuy? After that? Yeah,

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>let's talk. Let's talk about what's happening in Los Angeles. Now.

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Obviously an awful lot of attention today was on a

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>member of the free press copying the rubber bullet, that

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>being the Channel nine reporter who was standing between where

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the police were and where the police were firing. If

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:22.959
<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen it here, it.

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 5>Is rubber bullets of protesters moving them on through the

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 5>heart of lak.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, but as for what all this is about

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>illegal immigration tens of millions of people. Trump set it

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>up perfectly as a way of changing the subject, perhaps,

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>but still, which is to go after the most left

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>wing state with the silliest of things, knowing that the

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>craziest of protesters will turn up. How long does that

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>last before people start to saying a week of this?

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 10>Well, you see, here's the real danger here, Paul, because

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 10>you know this whole thing. The approximate cause is that ICE,

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 10>the immigration Custrians supports people. They went and they were

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 10>doing a bunch of raids to pick people up, and

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 10>a lot of these people, according to the White House,

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 10>were people who were gang members, sex criminals, people like

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 10>that who were still there illegally, and they want them

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 10>out of the country. Most Americans support getting illegals out

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 10>of the country. There's been ten or eleven million. You know,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 10>we reckon you know, how you do that? I don't know,

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 10>It's complicated, but you got to undo what Biden did.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 10>Biden really messed the country up. But do it in

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 10>La well, of course you've got all I mean, the

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 10>place is blasically one by communist Karen Bass. You know,

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.399
<v Speaker 10>there's all these activist groups, radicals. The place loves the riot.

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 10>They're almost like the French, you know, but you know

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 10>the uh. But then you get these sorts of scenes here.

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 10>I mean, these protesters are nuts. You know, they're trying

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 10>to you know, throw bricks through cars and you know,

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 10>throwing stuff off over pass the point shutting it out.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 10>Something my mail is, my male is that they get

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 10>Triumph shut down LAX tomorrow overnight, is what I'm hearing.

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if protests the protesters.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 10>Are going to try and do some sort of action

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 10>in lex Now, this is sort of a bit like

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 10>what they're trying to do is rekindle the Black Lives

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 10>Matter thing in twenty twenty, you know, and they want

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 10>to get that rolling in cities across the country. Now,

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 10>I actually don't know whether or not this is going

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 10>to catch fire in the same way BLM did, because

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 10>you know, you're talking about this thing. We've got these

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 10>scenes here, Paul where people are demonstrating, waving Mexican flags

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 10>around and burning cars. Now, you know, I'm sorry, as

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 10>you said, and I think I wrote this in my

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 10>column today too. If you are protesting, like because you

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 10>want to stay in this country and be part of

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 10>the American dream, that ain't it, son, That is not

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 10>a way, you know, And I was thinking about this, like,

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 10>but you go back to the Civil Rights movement in

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 10>the sixties, black Americans marching with dignity with American flags

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 10>because they wanted part of the American dream. These people

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 10>don't want part of the American dream. They want to

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 10>basically bring Mexico or wherever they come from into America. Separatism,

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 10>it's Balkanization, it's levity, civil war territory. And this is

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:13.760
<v Speaker 10>actually really the endpoint of the failure of multiculturalism.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, sir Henry to that point, I mean, let's localize this, right.

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>It always does my head in and it has for

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>decades when people are waving around flags of the country

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>they are not in. Yes, at times the thing they

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>may be protesting may be relevant to the place of

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>which they are from, or have relatives all the rest

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of it. But again, in this case, waving around a

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Mexican flag because the United States is saying, well, you've

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>got to be a citizen to be here, doesn't feel

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like a moral eye ground. But you've seen plenty of protests,

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>even in places like Brisbane where plenty of flags are

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>being flown around and aren't the Australian flag. It's not

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>in service of anything to do with Australia.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 4>You're dead right, Paul. I always find that strange when

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 4>you see a protest, and often they'll be flags totally

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 4>you know this is associated from the protest. You'll see

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Palestinian flags being flown at an Indigenous protest or vice versa.

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 4>It makes no sense to me why people want to

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 4>surround themselves with flags that don't belong to them or you,

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 4>that aren't associated with the cause that they're after. But

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 4>those scenes in la have just been shocking. It's terrible

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 4>to see in Australia and caught in the crossfire there,

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 4>But we wouldn't tolerate that in our country, you know,

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 4>And I think that it's important for us to look

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 4>at it through the prism of many US presidents have

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 4>caught out in the National Guard before to deal with

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 4>crises like this, and both Republican and Democrats presidents have

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 4>done it. I think it's really laughable to see a

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 4>guy like Gavenusom, who's been so much part of the

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 4>problem in California for so long, trying to wag the

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 4>finger now at Donald Trump for trying to actually step

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 4>in and try to restore peace in the cities of

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Los in the streets of Los Angeles, it's quite laughable,

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 4>perhaps not more laughable than individuals flying Mexican flags when

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 4>they want to stay in the United States, apparent.

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>But also the LA mayor is just trying to put

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.399
<v Speaker 1>it back in the horse after her behavior and around

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:03.879
<v Speaker 1>the fires of a few months.

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 10>Well, Karen Bass is a big part of the problems.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 10>You know, she's incompetent, she's incredibly hard left, you know,

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 10>and the l A government, the LA City government, and

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 10>the California Steak government fund an awful lot of these

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 10>radical organizing groups that are then going out and creating

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 10>the protests.

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Can you believe that the debautally families in the news

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>at the moment now as you know on Drinker. So

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I have no preference in this matter, but I imagine

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>there may be some other opinions on the panel's evening

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Apparently they're pulling back from some of the red wine production,

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>suggesting the youngest people don't particularly like it. Obviously they

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>still sell it, but hence was the story around there today,

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Henry red White, is this an Is this a serious

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>matter that you'll be raising in the Federation Chamber? Please don't.

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think our wine industry is of national significance

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 4>and I've been part of an inquiry in the last

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:02.479
<v Speaker 4>Parliament into market access into India and I'm sure there's

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 4>heaps of Indian middle class. I'm sure there's millions of

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 4>them who want to enjoy good Australian red wine. And

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a disgrace that we're pulling out old

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 4>bonds like that. That's that should be very concerning, and

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 4>I think the government needs to do harder to try

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 4>to get Australian market access into India.

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 10>Well, you know, there's one thing, Paully that the government

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 10>could do to help the wide industry, and that would

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 10>be to cut the insane taxi that we have on wine, spirits, beer.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 10>Oh and just kind of also put a little plug

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 10>in for tobacco, which of course created the all vap

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 10>shop mess in all of our cities. You know, like

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 10>we don't need to go in substize and industry. And

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.879
<v Speaker 10>aside from the failure of parenting that this shows generationally

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 10>that young people aren't necessarily taking up red wine the

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 10>way they should.

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, okay, wrong, no, yeah, I just know when

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you introduced the secret, but will you give them a

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>little you know, okay, you know, a little fit to

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>be all right.

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 10>So but the point is is that, you know, like

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 10>if we're concerned about the wine industry, well let's stop

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 10>belting it with all.

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Of his tax yep, correct, don't forget that bottle of

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Bundy rummers. I always say's sixty three percent tax. Thanks,

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you, ladies to appreciate it. See you were get

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>in a moment or two. Is time plenty to talk about,

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>including is t has MANI going to have an election

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>or not? Or are they going to get a new

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>premier without an election? Some news tonight, mon a sec.

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sparing a thought for our mates in Tasmania tonight

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>because we don't know if there will or won't be

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>an election. You know the story most of no confidence

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>moved by the Labor Party, supported by the Green supported

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>by Independence, means that either the premier has to go

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>or he presses the big red button and we are

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>off to an election. Now he's planning to go off

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to an election. In fact, he was talking with Bridget

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Archer and is now suggesting that she will be running

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 1>for him in the seat a Bass, basically running in

0:45:58.320 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the state version of what she had held in the

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>federal Elament for multiple elections. However, some people in and

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>around the Tazzi political scene, including a rather prominent former Liberal,

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>is suggesting, no, you don't have to go to an election,

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you can just change the premier.

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:19.240
<v Speaker 11>An old saying in politics, the worst day in government,

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 11>the worst day, worst day is better than the best

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 11>day in opposition. And I think sadly in six weeks

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 11>times or so, the few members of the Liberal p

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 11>Orp who don't lose their seats the election are going

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 11>to find that out the hard way.

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>So a large, a last ditch effort is being suggested

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>by some not suggesting that this is the majority of

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the party rum or it's going to happen tomorrow. But

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to tell you what might be on its way,

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>which is that the former federal senator and a local

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Liberal legend, Eric Abbetts, is being suggested as a potential

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>replacement for the existing premier. Now, of course that would

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<v Speaker 1>mean you'd have to get the existing premier to try

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the Parliament for a while to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers up, or go after a by election. You

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<v Speaker 1>get how all that works. So who knows where all

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<v Speaker 1>of this is going to end up. But if it

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<v Speaker 1>ends up at an election, the suggestion is that because

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<v Speaker 1>Labour's got everything federally and the tides out on the

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<v Speaker 1>limbs at the moment, then they could potentially end up

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<v Speaker 1>in a worse situation, particularly in the north in and

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<v Speaker 1>around things to do with the stadium. But but I

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<v Speaker 1>stay what I said last week, which is you can't

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<v Speaker 1>be pushed around by an opposition, an opposition that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>was able to make the most of the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>they had. But honestly, who knows whether the people of

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<v Speaker 1>Tasmania will be annoyed at the reason for the election

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore the result may will not be as obvious

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<v Speaker 1>as is seemingly the case. But there is one way

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid the election that is going to be to

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<v Speaker 1>change the premiere. The premiere and I don't often get along,

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<v Speaker 1>but I back him in on what he's had to

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<v Speaker 1>say about the wrecking that is the Greens and the

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Independence and the Labor Party. Now, finally, you will have

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<v Speaker 1>heard by now that the project is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>off the air at the end of this month. This

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<v Speaker 1>would be the moment in time where you would expect

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<v Speaker 1>a person who has been often pilloried by that program,

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<v Speaker 1>or I rolled by that program, to go ding Don

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<v Speaker 1>the Witch is dead. Guess what I'm not, Because any

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:10.879
<v Speaker 1>show to be on as long as they have has

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of success. I've disagreed with almost every

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>piece of content that they're put to wear, but are

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of talented people that are behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't like the idea of people working in

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<v Speaker 1>Telly having fewer opportunities to work in Telly. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that we should keep as many news programs around

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as possible. Why because we want people

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<v Speaker 1>to be getting information, even the stuff that we disagree with,

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<v Speaker 1>from as many potential sources as possible. Now again, I

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<v Speaker 1>am hearing the words of one of my radio mentors suggesting,

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<v Speaker 1>do not show mercy to those that will never show

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you mercy. Well guess what I am going to. So

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<v Speaker 1>the people who have lost their job, I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who work at the technical side, the production side,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, some of the people who appear on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Of course if it was in reverse, you

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.280
<v Speaker 1>know exactly how they treat it. But that's why we're different.

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<v Speaker 1>So do tomorrow up