Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Sherry,
Speaker 1: thank you to James Morrow for holding the fort for
Speaker 1: a couple of days. I had that extra long weekend,
Speaker 1: all right, the days off finish.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I tried to run and take one week off post election,
Speaker 1: and you know there's a big run before that, a
Speaker 1: couple of sneaky Thursdays, the odds Sunday. Anyway, back on
Speaker 1: deck and all guns blazing. All right, let's get into
Speaker 1: a lot tonight, including Yeah, I'll get all the stuff
Speaker 1: you expect me to talk about, including some stuff you
Speaker 1: haven't heard that's taken place over the past few days.
Speaker 1: But breaking news is cold in winter, but it's particularly
Speaker 1: cold at the start of this winter. Now, yes, everyone
Speaker 1: else can run off and say why they think it's
Speaker 1: the case, and why everyone needs to have more renewable
Speaker 1: power whatever, boring the stuff that's been beautiful to have
Speaker 1: a lookout, and I hope nobody's been caught up in
Speaker 1: this in the negative side. If you're watching us in
Speaker 1: the central west of New South Wales, remember we did
Speaker 1: an outown from Orange a few weeks ago. Well, the
Speaker 1: snow is falling there. All it's good if like mine,
Speaker 1: my kids have never seen snow, so if you get
Speaker 1: a bit of pre warning of this stuff, go and
Speaker 1: check out regional parts of Australia which might at little
Speaker 1: dusting here or there. However, there were some other issues
Speaker 1: including what about it in and around Mount Howtham. Wow,
Speaker 1: not just cold but a snow dump. People who ended
Speaker 1: up well, hikers got caught and a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: people ended up spending last night in that weather in
Speaker 1: their cars. Well done to the Victorian Sees, the Nissowales
Speaker 1: Police and all of the local officials in and around
Speaker 1: places like Hawtham, Threadbow and all the rest of it
Speaker 1: that had to go and get people in the middle
Speaker 1: of those snowstorms. Not stuff we expect in Australia, but
Speaker 1: it is something that becomes very usual. And now there's
Speaker 1: more cameraphones than ever before, so we know about every
Speaker 1: little thing that happened, including what a way to spend
Speaker 1: part of the King's Birthday long weekend.
Speaker 2: The road was actually closed and there were signs and
Speaker 2: barricades up, but the physical gate hadn't been locked yet
Speaker 2: for the winter that was due to happen this Thursday.
Speaker 3: And we did what we could have had weekend which
Speaker 3: was putting out the signage, not defying people. But that
Speaker 3: process to formally close the road takes a number of days.
Speaker 3: We've got to get the agreement of vic pol Parksvick
Speaker 3: and Deeca. They've got to basically satisfy themselves that we're
Speaker 3: not locking people into the park.
Speaker 1: So, as always, the paperwork's fault. Now, the weather did
Speaker 1: extend pretty cold morning in the southeast of Queensland all
Speaker 1: the way through to parts of Victoria again start of winter, surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: but still it's worth learning exactly why this little snap
Speaker 1: is happening right now. And of course Sky News I say,
Speaker 1: twenty four hour Weather Service.
Speaker 2: It's been very cold throughout the southeast over the past
Speaker 2: few days and of course rather windy with plenty of
Speaker 2: wet weather all floating about.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: That's on account of this low which is continuing to
Speaker 2: hover off the east coast of New South Wales, really
Speaker 2: stirring up a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 1: Now, little bit of good news, not enough to say
Speaker 1: that it is a drought broken. But where it wasn't snow,
Speaker 1: there was rain, and there was a lot of rain
Speaker 1: that made it into regional Victoria in the past couple
Speaker 1: of days, like thirty mils in some parts. I was
Speaker 1: noticing some people on social media saying that it was
Speaker 1: even a whole lot more than that. So thankfully some
Speaker 1: just some of the areas that have been drought affected
Speaker 1: of recent times, and we know that they have not
Speaker 1: been getting the support that they needed. The local communities
Speaker 1: have been blowing up about that. We're going to keep
Speaker 1: talking about it. But a little bit of rain again,
Speaker 1: sky On is weather with some good news of follow
Speaker 1: up again. This never happens on the news, does it.
Speaker 1: They tell you what's going wrong with they never tell
Speaker 1: you the follow up with. He's a follow up, a
Speaker 1: little bit of rain to those who need it most.
Speaker 2: Into South Australia and this is a location that has
Speaker 2: had some pretty decent totals over the past week or so,
Speaker 2: and that's of course much welcome given all the drought
Speaker 2: effective regions that have been just missing out constantly for
Speaker 2: the past few months.
Speaker 1: All right to politics now, and the final seat was
Speaker 1: awarded of the federal election. Yes, many weeks ago. It
Speaker 1: feels like months ago, but it of course was just
Speaker 1: weeks ago. And it's the teal who gets the final seat,
Speaker 1: winning by just a bare few eyes and she going
Speaker 1: to love her time on Radio National. The Teal wins
Speaker 1: Bradfield won that the Liberal Party at held for the
Speaker 1: best part of seventy years. She didn't win it buy
Speaker 1: a lot. It had required a recount and a lot
Speaker 1: of pushing back and forth on how those votes were
Speaker 1: being encountered, but the margin was about as fin as
Speaker 1: you can get.
Speaker 5: The electorate of Bradfield came down to just twenty six votes.
Speaker 5: The Electoral Commission declared Independent Nicola Buller the winner by
Speaker 5: just twenty six votes.
Speaker 1: Now, as for the Liberal Party, despite the fact that
Speaker 1: the person who was in front at one point in
Speaker 1: time and then ended up losing the seat was actually
Speaker 1: named in the Shadow Ministry, that was a silly call.
Speaker 1: There's a chance this might go off to court. Most
Speaker 1: likely nothing will change. Teal wins the seat. Why am
Speaker 1: I talking about this week's after the election, because there's
Speaker 1: two groups of people who just deserve a real thank
Speaker 1: you for delivering us another Teal. We thought that we
Speaker 1: were one down when it came to Zoe Daniel, while
Speaker 1: we get one back now in the case of this
Speaker 1: new person representing the seat of Bradfield. This is the
Speaker 1: votes and in terms of the first preference votes, the
Speaker 1: person who has been elected to Parliament as the Member
Speaker 1: for Bradfield got, as you can see, about a quarter
Speaker 1: of the vote. A quarter of the vote. Yet the
Speaker 1: way the preference system works, and of course generally speaking,
Speaker 1: when you're running against a Liberal, all bar one or
Speaker 1: two are preferencing against you. Hence why we get where
Speaker 1: we were going. But there are two groups in particular
Speaker 1: that the teal should be there very thankful for, and
Speaker 1: we should never forget the extra teal that will be
Speaker 1: brought to Australian politics with a margin of twenty six votes,
Speaker 1: was preferenced by the trumpet of patriots. Remember the people
Speaker 1: who said we've got to have trumpier politics. While they
Speaker 1: decided to preference the teal before the Liberal, they got
Speaker 1: the best part of a one thousand votes in the seat.
Speaker 1: So even if twenty six people decided to follow that
Speaker 1: how to Vote card, thank you so much. So every
Speaker 1: time we get the teal and we see this ticular
Speaker 1: teal on television and we'll be told how to live
Speaker 1: our lives by this teal, thank you so much to
Speaker 1: the how to Vote card. Of the trumpet of patriots. Also,
Speaker 1: a guy that not many people even in the electorate
Speaker 1: have heard of, played quite a significant role. This bloke
Speaker 1: apparently was a former Liberal member, as in a paid
Speaker 1: up and proud member of the Liberal Party, and he
Speaker 1: decided to run as it independent, resigning from the party.
Speaker 1: On the day or day before or think of the
Speaker 1: election being called, he put out his how to vote
Speaker 1: card where guess what the number one person who got
Speaker 1: his preferences was the Labor Party. Labor Party at number two,
Speaker 1: the former Liberal member who was a Liberal member apparently
Speaker 1: the start of this year, handed in his gun and
Speaker 1: badge who run as it independent and hand four thousand votes,
Speaker 1: some of them when it comes to preferences, first to
Speaker 1: Labor and then eventually to the Teal. His explanation as
Speaker 1: to why we will now have another teal, remember up
Speaker 1: and proud member of the Liberal Party, was this.
Speaker 6: Pointing Labor number two is a strong sign that I'm
Speaker 6: not going to support Peter Dunnet in the leadership. But
Speaker 6: the reason I've put at Labor second is to send
Speaker 6: a strong message criticism on the current leader of the
Speaker 6: Liberal Party, which is Peter Dutton. So a lot of
Speaker 6: Chinese Australians have been let down and disappointed by the
Speaker 6: remarks that Peter Dutton.
Speaker 4: Has made in the past.
Speaker 6: He served as the Minister of Defense during twenty twenty
Speaker 6: one and he was someone that emphasized that Australia should
Speaker 6: prepare for war and he wasn't able to depreciate between China,
Speaker 6: which is Beijing CCP and the local Chinese community, and
Speaker 6: that has unfortunately disappointed a lot of Chinese Australians who
Speaker 6: have been running small businesses here for a very long time,
Speaker 6: who raise a family here, who have been paying taxes.
Speaker 1: Nothing to see between them about five thousand votes. The
Speaker 1: preferences of the trumpeter patriots and the bloke who would
Speaker 1: paid up in proud form a Liberal member is why
Speaker 1: we now have thank you so much to both of you. Honestly,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Australia forever be thankful now, as
Speaker 1: we know an awful lot of people are well. Many
Speaker 1: may be working a second job with us blaring away
Speaker 1: on the TV or Sky News radio in the background,
Speaker 1: or maybe check us out on sky News dot com
Speaker 1: and all of the other ways that there are to
Speaker 1: watch this program, both live, the apps and all the
Speaker 1: rest of it. Well, today we learn about just how
Speaker 1: many people are working more than one job. Now, let
Speaker 1: me translate six and a half percent of people into
Speaker 1: how many people in Australia more than one job? Basically
Speaker 1: a million people, nine hundred and sixty three thousand people
Speaker 1: in Australia have more than one job. Well, of course, Paul,
Speaker 1: that's just young people that might have one or two
Speaker 1: jobs so they can make their way through university. Not really,
Speaker 1: there is a big difference between men and women in
Speaker 1: terms of who has a second job. This is the
Speaker 1: cast of characters, and by that I mean people with
Speaker 1: more than one job. It's been playing out since March
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Basically, the darker red line is female workers.
Speaker 1: There are more of them that have more than one job. Now, interestingly,
Speaker 1: when it comes to age groups, yes there are more
Speaker 1: young people and those are the blue lines, regardless of
Speaker 1: whether we're talking about June, September, December or March. Quarters
Speaker 1: that basically, from left to right, the left is the
Speaker 1: light blue all the way through to gray, which is
Speaker 1: the oldest of workers. But you can see consistently what
Speaker 1: that picture is, and certainly a big spike of it
Speaker 1: in and around September of last year. But again, oh well, Paul,
Speaker 1: isn't this just people that are working your two jobs?
Speaker 1: Maybe mackers and they've got a side hustle. Well, No,
Speaker 1: of the nine hundred and sixty three thousand people who
Speaker 1: have more than one job, guess what the number one
Speaker 1: industry is that those people have more than one job in.
Speaker 1: It is not fast food retail, It is not delivering meals.
Speaker 1: It is in actual fact, health care, healthcare and social assistance.
Speaker 1: One hundred and ninety one thousand of the nine hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty thousand are in that particular area. Again, multiple jobs.
Speaker 1: It's double the amount, give or take, that are there
Speaker 1: in the retail sector. So more women those particular jobs. Yes, younger,
Speaker 1: but still plenty of people all the way through too
Speaker 1: close to retirement age working more than one job to
Speaker 1: make their way through what, of course, is an economy
Speaker 1: that's turned a corner. Amazingly the election result that didn't
Speaker 1: seem to matter, that people were working two jobs in
Speaker 1: highly professionalized areas in order to make ends meet, And
Speaker 1: there were many fascinating things. As always, when you get
Speaker 1: a couple of days off, you get the chance to
Speaker 1: read and listen to when you're not having to prepare
Speaker 1: the daily show, which of course central joy of my
Speaker 1: professional life. But Nick cat, who's of course the boss
Speaker 1: of the Mensies Research Center, he wrote an absolutely fascinating
Speaker 1: argument trying to get him on the show in the
Speaker 1: next couple of days in The Australian Today. Because you
Speaker 1: know how we always talking about the generational divide and
Speaker 1: generation wars and all the rest of it. Well, in part,
Speaker 1: he's wanting us to focus on the youngest of voters
Speaker 1: because they have grown up in pretty terrible times. In fact,
Speaker 1: many people who might be on the center or setter
Speaker 1: right of Australian politics believe that regardless of what side
Speaker 1: of politics is in power, we're sort of managing the decline.
Speaker 1: And some people believe the difference between Team Red and
Speaker 1: Team Blue is just how slow we go down the hill. Well,
Speaker 1: this is something that Nick expands a little more on.
Speaker 1: And for those who want to just dismiss all issues
Speaker 1: of young people, who cares? Isn't that triple j isn't
Speaker 1: that a thing for TikTok? Guess what they vote and
Speaker 1: they will replace the people who will no longer vote.
Speaker 1: That's just the way life works, Okay, let's read what
Speaker 1: Nick had to say. Entery adult is no longer a
Speaker 1: wonderful moment as it once was, the gateway to independence,
Speaker 1: charged with the thrill of possibility. It's easy to mock
Speaker 1: Generation z's TikTok videos and Instagram loops as they stare
Speaker 1: into their front facing camera of history and lament the
Speaker 1: hardship of growing up amid historic prosperity in an exceptionally
Speaker 1: peaceful and affluent country. But here's where it gets to
Speaker 1: the big point. Today's young adults grew up under a
Speaker 1: cloud of catastrophism and the normalization of decline. So think
Speaker 1: about that in terms of the catastrophism right now. Easy
Speaker 1: part to say is, well, that's the climate change climate
Speaker 1: catastrophism right well. Also, as he makes the point in
Speaker 1: the article, don't forget these were the people who may
Speaker 1: well have either been pulled out of the final years
Speaker 1: of school, or the first years of university, or the
Speaker 1: first years of working, all to do with the overreaction
Speaker 1: when it came to matters to do with, let alone,
Speaker 1: the catastrophization. You will never own a house, You will
Speaker 1: never earn enough money to be able to build a
Speaker 1: life for yourself. On top of seeing, yes, the country
Speaker 1: that any of us that were lucky enough to be
Speaker 1: alive in the early two thousands, the nineties, the eighties,
Speaker 1: or previous decades before that, when in many ways you
Speaker 1: could fight your way from the bottom to the middle,
Speaker 1: and if you're particularly lucky, you could make it all
Speaker 1: the way towards the tippy top. But that is harder
Speaker 1: than ever before for a whole bunch of reasons, fair
Speaker 1: and unfair, which gets to the final point that Nick makes.
Speaker 1: This is the reason I want to interview him on
Speaker 1: the show in the next couple of days. Right, this
Speaker 1: is how economic and moral declinism begins. Self reliance is
Speaker 1: no longer a virtue but a fiscal inconvenience. He's talking
Speaker 1: about how our modern politics now is all about the government.
Speaker 1: Remember that triangle of dependency I've talked about lot, where
Speaker 1: you're either working for the government or you've got to
Speaker 1: hand out from the government or your business, your beaus
Speaker 1: client as the government. What he goes on to say,
Speaker 1: we are passed beyond the Nani state to something far
Speaker 1: more insidious, their helicopter state, where the government hovers, micromanagers
Speaker 1: and intervenes not just to protect but to preempt and
Speaker 1: infantilizes Generation Z has grown up in a world of
Speaker 1: regulated choices, apparently incapable of navigating life without ministerial intervention.
Speaker 1: Well said Nick, again, I know if he's in lots
Speaker 1: of different places, and I won't take him away from
Speaker 1: any other the commitments that he has two other programs.
Speaker 1: But I look forward to a conversation about this because
Speaker 1: this is big boy pad stuff. This is a serious
Speaker 1: conversation about the future of our country, about how the
Speaker 1: center right can reach out to say there is a
Speaker 1: different way, There is a different way where you can
Speaker 1: be in charge of your future, where you if you
Speaker 1: back yourself, if you take risk, then the reward can
Speaker 1: be way bigger than what you are risking, because we
Speaker 1: all know that is missing. But also we can't pretend
Speaker 1: that there's not a whole bunch of young people who've
Speaker 1: got lots of great ideas about how they want to
Speaker 1: build a future for themselves. And yes, that might be
Speaker 1: an app on a device which you and I might
Speaker 1: not be using, but they're going to make a huge
Speaker 1: chunk of change out of it. Equally, so kids in
Speaker 1: year ten right now should be actively told that there
Speaker 1: are two doors you can go through. Yes, you can
Speaker 1: go to university and all the rest of it and
Speaker 1: become a good little Greens believer, but you can also
Speaker 1: go through this door and become a tradee and in
Speaker 1: more money than any philosophy degree will ever get you.
Speaker 1: That's part of talking about that self reliance, because yes,
Speaker 1: it's a long hard road if you're an apprentice to
Speaker 1: then to be able to stand on your own two food.
Speaker 1: But anyone who knows anyone I was talking to a
Speaker 1: chippy this weekend. Their plan is to eventually get the
Speaker 1: ABN to be able to go off, have a few
Speaker 1: blokes and the sheelers working for them all right, and
Speaker 1: to be able to go often build a business. That's
Speaker 1: the path. So there is a role for all of
Speaker 1: us to play in inspiring not shitcanning, but inspiring the
Speaker 1: next generation of voters because it currently sits. There is
Speaker 1: no way that they're going to be voting the way
Speaker 1: that we do, and the way not to have the
Speaker 1: conversation so they vote that way, but just to have
Speaker 1: the conversation so everyone can start understanding each other, so
Speaker 1: you can show them the story of your own life
Speaker 1: or your parent's life. Because again I was thinking a
Speaker 1: lot about this over the weekend, where I am of
Speaker 1: that generation that still is impressed by what their parents did,
Speaker 1: who is impressed by what their grandparents did. And that's
Speaker 1: not to say that somebody who's thirty or twenty five
Speaker 1: doesn't admire their parents or grandparents. But I admire the
Speaker 1: war service of my grandparents. I admire the home front
Speaker 1: of their families left behind. I admire the open fields
Speaker 1: that turned into quartuacre blocks and suburbia that organized itself
Speaker 1: around a sense of values and to have a country
Speaker 1: that many many people have joined since. But people who
Speaker 1: buy into how good is this joint? Not how good
Speaker 1: is this joint? Now, let's turn it into some other joint.
Speaker 1: And for Gen X's we're sort of court sometimes between
Speaker 1: what we keep being told is the fashionable future and
Speaker 1: the honoring of our parents who work so hard, of
Speaker 1: course in the seventies and eighties and nineties, So that's
Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. Had this whole thing planned about
Speaker 1: whether I get into the meaning of what I try
Speaker 1: to bring to the show each and every night, but
Speaker 1: maybe we'll tease that out over the next few days.
Speaker 1: But part of that conversation is going to be a
Speaker 1: chat with Nick, because I think there's something in this
Speaker 1: for all of us, not just political, but about an understanding,
Speaker 1: because I'm done with the generation wars, right, I'm done
Speaker 1: with young people blaming old people and old people just
Speaker 1: ignoring young people. Okay, I get it. Sometimes both are
Speaker 1: going to annoy each other. And as Grandpa Simpson so
Speaker 1: spectacularly said, when Homer Simpson was coming to the Forge
Speaker 1: and he was starting to be the one in the
Speaker 1: family that was more culturally, you know, right on man,
Speaker 1: which is I used to be cool, and then they
Speaker 1: changed what cool was, and now what's cool is weird
Speaker 1: and scary, as it was for grandparents parents in my case,
Speaker 1: gen X and many of the wonderful, inspirational young people
Speaker 1: who we work with on this show each and every day.
Speaker 1: And I know many young people watching us, including two
Speaker 1: very beautiful little one was barely a teenager when he's
Speaker 1: going to be a teenager in a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Lots of young people come up to me when we
Speaker 1: do the shows, particularly in regional areas, and there are
Speaker 1: literally people as have said, Hey, we've watched you every
Speaker 1: day of our lives. We've been around for fifteen years.
Speaker 1: You guys matter the most, right because it's really important
Speaker 1: that we keep living our lives and getting involved in
Speaker 1: the conversations. But you're the ones they're going to take
Speaker 1: the joint, hopefully in a better direction than any of
Speaker 1: us could dream of. So if you are a young
Speaker 1: person watching us for the first time or for the
Speaker 1: seven thousandth time, thank you. I really appreciate it, honestly
Speaker 1: I do. And to the parents who made them watch
Speaker 1: all right, now, let's talk about the honors system because
Speaker 1: guess what I'm going to say exactly what I say
Speaker 1: around the Australia Day Honors, around the Queen's Birthday honors,
Speaker 1: and every time this stuff happens, right, congratulations to everyone
Speaker 1: who got one. But the system is broken. Why because
Speaker 1: people like the former boss of the Business Lobby Group
Speaker 1: they got one, as you know, broadcasters like the guy
Speaker 1: who used to wear black on the ABC, he got one.
Speaker 1: And even the person in charge of the Australian Electoral
Speaker 1: Commission got one. Now I am not having a crack
Speaker 1: at anyone who is like a volunteer organization. You deserve
Speaker 1: this moment in the sun. But the boss of the AEC,
Speaker 1: and yes, Scott Morrison, is the most recent former prime
Speaker 1: minister to receive the recognition, exactly the same as Kevin Right,
Speaker 1: exactly the same as Julie Gillard, exactly the same as
Speaker 1: every prime minister has ever thus got. But of course,
Speaker 1: because it's Scott Morrison, well we all know some of
Speaker 1: the reaction that was going to be to all of this. Firstly,
Speaker 1: here is the former prime minister speaking about being honored
Speaker 1: by his country on this day.
Speaker 7: I'm very humbled by the recognition and thankful to the
Speaker 7: Australian people who gave me the opportunity to serve as
Speaker 7: Prime Minister during one of the most difficult periods in
Speaker 7: Australia's history.
Speaker 1: I like him, always have, always will, regardless of electoral results,
Speaker 1: and regardless of how culture moves with or against you.
Speaker 1: I think he's a very decent man, and all the
Speaker 1: best to his wife Jenny, and these beautiful girls as well.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful honor, but of course because it's Scott Morrison, Oh,
Speaker 1: the left will not accept it. The entire system needs
Speaker 1: to be changed. And somebody decided to write this little
Speaker 1: piece in the Channel on newspapers today, Jenna Price honoring
Speaker 1: Scott Morrison makes a mockery of our award Fifthdom. News
Speaker 1: of Grison's honor devastated me. I've been writing about the
Speaker 1: honors blah blah blah since a long time, when she
Speaker 1: was a young reporter. I've written about the good ones,
Speaker 1: the bad ones. I've endlessly written about the disproportionate number
Speaker 1: of men, the disproportionate number from wealthy postcodes, the fact
Speaker 1: that some of our most brilliant First nation citizens are
Speaker 1: left off the list. I've berated the number of people
Speaker 1: that get these awards, but the award to Scott Morrison
Speaker 1: is absolutely takes the cake for poor judgment and bad timing. Well,
Speaker 1: it is twelve months since perhaps the worst example of
Speaker 1: somebody getting a little gold medal for their time in
Speaker 1: public service was first announced, the former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews,
Speaker 1: particularly insulting he got it fought services to public health.
Speaker 1: This is despite the fact that how many bits of
Speaker 1: evidence do you need about the over the top lockdowns.
Speaker 1: You get it, the kids that suffered, the community that suffered.
Speaker 1: But I noticed she had nothing to say when Daniel
Speaker 1: Andrews got this. The point of these honest is that
Speaker 1: I think they should only be like one hundred of
Speaker 1: them given out every year. They should obviously go to
Speaker 1: the non famous people who are the volunteers who walk
Speaker 1: amongst us, the people who do incredible work on top
Speaker 1: of their work. Maybe we could extend it out to
Speaker 1: the people who make the country a better place because
Speaker 1: of say scientific in Depth, something like that. But the
Speaker 1: gravy train includes all of the former politicians. The ones
Speaker 1: we voted for are the ones we despise. No one's
Speaker 1: going to be changing that system because of course all
Speaker 1: the people that are currently in charge of the system
Speaker 1: all want the little gold badge as well. Now, every
Speaker 1: time I talk about this, I'll get some angry email
Speaker 1: from someone somewhere saying, hey, how dare you attack everyone
Speaker 1: who's received one of these? No, to those who have
Speaker 1: received them, congratulations. Moving forward, my suggestion is to make
Speaker 1: these things even more valuable to people. They shouldn't be
Speaker 1: for your preferretional service. They should be for your community service.
Speaker 1: If your profession is dealing with the community service, well
Speaker 1: then you've already been recognized. But if you're somebody who's
Speaker 1: been doing incredible work in a volunteer capacity, then yes,
Speaker 1: I'll be the first in line to cheer you on.
Speaker 1: Many non famous people received honors today to will of
Speaker 1: them in particular congratulations. So the people who will write
Speaker 1: me the same emails, please my point, listen to it.
Speaker 1: Don't just all for the headline that's going to be around.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Westercott's not an example of one of the non famous. Particularly,
Speaker 1: let's not talk about what's happening in the United States,
Speaker 1: particularly Los Angeles, particularly in and around California. Now, there's
Speaker 1: a whole cadre of people who have been waiting, and
Speaker 1: I mean waiting with baited breath from the moment that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump put his hand up, took the oath, and
Speaker 1: became president for the second time forty five and forty seven.
Speaker 1: They hate every moment he's in the Oval Office, and
Speaker 1: they've been trying to pretend that we are on the
Speaker 1: absolute verge of a third world country where orange chase
Speaker 1: and nuclear weapons. Yeah, this is what fascism looks like.
Speaker 8: Similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening now
Speaker 8: in America are just undeniable. It's particularly chilling because in
Speaker 8: nineteen thirty nine, more than twenty thousand supporters of a
Speaker 8: different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the garden for a
Speaker 8: so called pro America rally.
Speaker 5: If you don't want to be compared to the folks
Speaker 5: who held rallies like that in nineteen thirty nine.
Speaker 1: Don't hold rallies like that.
Speaker 5: If you don't want to be called a fascist, stop
Speaker 5: constantly acting out the dictionary definition of fascist.
Speaker 9: Every American that is supporting Trump right now needs to
Speaker 9: understand that they are absolutely supporting fascism if they vote
Speaker 9: for Trump.
Speaker 1: That a former president is a fascist and a danger
Speaker 1: to this country is just inconceivable.
Speaker 7: Well, and then they proved it.
Speaker 1: To quote a friend Nudu Farage boring. But they've got
Speaker 1: their mind now because the evil president is ordering troops
Speaker 1: to shoot a innocent people on the streets of Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: because the millions of people that have entered the country
Speaker 1: illegally are now slowly, maturely being held to account saying
Speaker 1: do you have the paperwork? Are you a legitimate American citizen?
Speaker 1: Then guess what it's about? Time to leave. Ah, But
Speaker 1: these protesters, they're playing four day chess. They're on a
Speaker 1: huge moral high compared to Orange Man. Bad oh, oh,
Speaker 1: just such bravery, such bravery. Now, of course, when we
Speaker 1: see evidence, and if there is any evidence of innocence
Speaker 1: being hauled off the streets, then I'll be the first
Speaker 1: to call it, because you know what, I can recognize
Speaker 1: good Trump, bad Trump, Meanta, and at times a man
Speaker 1: on an island. Because of course, unless you say everything's
Speaker 1: amazing or everything's terrible, then nobody's gonna talk to you.
Speaker 1: Don't care. Still proud of the photo, right, Okay, But
Speaker 1: he's got every right to do what the American people
Speaker 1: absolutely hired him to do, which is, if you're an
Speaker 1: illegal in the country, see you later, no question. All right,
Speaker 1: start with the bad onbres as they say, and work
Speaker 1: your way through. But there are tens of millions of
Speaker 1: people that are in the country illegally, something that we
Speaker 1: should not tolerate in this country, that New Zealand, Tuvalu,
Speaker 1: or anywhere else. Because a country without borders is basically
Speaker 1: not a country at all. And I love so many
Speaker 1: of the lefties that are out there and winging on
Speaker 1: the Behalf of those, of course, would either live in
Speaker 1: a gated community or lock their own doors at night.
Speaker 1: It's a metaphor for how you run the country. As
Speaker 1: for Trump, unsurprisingly, he's going to roll on with this
Speaker 1: because of course it makes we don't talk about it
Speaker 1: elon if you.
Speaker 2: Have violent people, and we're not going to let him
Speaker 2: get away with it.
Speaker 1: If we see danger to our country and to our citizens,
Speaker 1: and we'll be very, very strong in terms of law
Speaker 1: and order. It's about law and order. As for the
Speaker 1: local ladies, they now have their opportunity to turn around
Speaker 1: and say, look, Orange Man bad, We warned you, we
Speaker 1: warned you. This is the fourth Rock.
Speaker 10: There was no need to federalize troops and so to
Speaker 10: have this here is really just a provocation and something
Speaker 10: that was not needed in our city.
Speaker 9: Donald Trump has created the conditions you see on your
Speaker 9: TV tonight. He's exacerbated the conditions. He's lit the Brobbial match.
Speaker 9: He's putting fuel on this fire ever since he announced
Speaker 9: he was taking over the National Guard in a legal
Speaker 9: act and a moral act, an unconstitutional act, and we're
Speaker 9: going to test that theory with a lawsuit tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Right. These are the people that are, of course,
Speaker 1: are just desperately trying to get on the right side
Speaker 1: of public opinion. After that, they were the ones, including
Speaker 1: the lady at the start, the LA mayor who was
Speaker 1: so bad in the fires. May how terrible her and
Speaker 1: Nuisance were in the fires. Well, now it's the chance
Speaker 1: to light the emotional one and then this is the
Speaker 1: bit that is going to get me in the most trouble.
Speaker 1: But I sadly think it needs to be said, why
Speaker 1: do people bring national flags of anything other than the
Speaker 1: nation that they are in when they're involved in a
Speaker 1: dispute like this that in and of itself could take
Speaker 1: many hours for us to discuss. But it's a perfect
Speaker 1: example of what can be wrong in many of our countries,
Speaker 1: countries like Australia, where we have protests where people are
Speaker 1: waving around a flag of the country that they don't
Speaker 1: live in. Why now, you can simultaneously be a proud
Speaker 1: Australian and a citizen of the world. You can be
Speaker 1: a proud American and a citizen of the world. But
Speaker 1: why are you waving the flag of the country that
Speaker 1: apparently you either wanted to leave or you're not a
Speaker 1: citizen of, or you don't living Again, I said, I'll
Speaker 1: get into trouble, so I mon't stop it there quick
Speaker 1: breakpack with more plenty to talk about here this evening.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. Paul Murray Live. Nice
Speaker 1: to be back this Monday night after a couple of
Speaker 1: nights off again. Thank you so much to James Morrow,
Speaker 1: who is in the man cave next here on Paul
Speaker 1: Murray Live. Now he was in the host share and
Speaker 1: just kicked kicked backside being polite as possible here on
Speaker 1: Thursday and Sunday night, the Great James Morrow, on top
Speaker 1: of all of his other commitments, started Sunday's Friday Nights
Speaker 1: Telegraph all the rest of it. Did you have fun hosting?
Speaker 1: Had a great time? Good, isn't it? It's a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Is the best seat in Australia's house? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it ain't moving. But to book him anytime, You're
Speaker 1: work them anytime, all right, Henry Parke. Of course there
Speaker 1: is an l MP MP and he joins us now
Speaker 1: from Queensland. Love you to see you too, mate. So
Speaker 1: before we get to the gretta of everything and we
Speaker 1: talk about what's going on in LA because your column
Speaker 1: today was absolutely nailing the nonsense that's happening there and
Speaker 1: what really is about apparently part of the trade negotiations
Speaker 1: to maybe get rid of the ten percent global tariff
Speaker 1: which the Trump administration has placed on Australia. There's a
Speaker 1: chance that we might be changing some of the rules
Speaker 1: when it comes to the importation of beef, particularly American beef.
Speaker 1: Now what's really interesting about this is that generally speaking,
Speaker 1: we're not into that. Why because we want to try
Speaker 1: to protect our own farmers in our own industry. But
Speaker 1: on top of all of that, you need to know
Speaker 1: that Brazilian beef, which it previously had it's mad cow
Speaker 1: issues and all the rest of it in a long
Speaker 1: time ago, is now starting to be welcomed back into
Speaker 1: the global frame. And of course, because they pay their
Speaker 1: people Brazilian wages not Australian, it ends up being cheaper.
Speaker 1: So is the Australian beef industry going to be under
Speaker 1: some sort of attack either to get a deal done
Speaker 1: or it's all global? And of course all of these
Speaker 1: people sit in seats of the Labour Party were willing
Speaker 1: to flush down the tut James, Look, where's the beef
Speaker 1: and where's it going to go?
Speaker 10: Well, it's a really interod question here because you know,
Speaker 10: we make fantastic beef Heuropes, I mean, some of the
Speaker 10: best beef in the world. America also, though raises some
Speaker 10: of the best beef in the world too, as you
Speaker 10: would know. And there's a big difference, you know. Here
Speaker 10: we're born to the sort of the grass fed. There
Speaker 10: they have that beautiful, great finished with the barbling and
Speaker 10: like god, you love a USDA Prime steak, you know
Speaker 10: when they do that, think the steakhouses and it's all
Speaker 10: crusty on the top. How good is that?
Speaker 1: You gotta Smith and Wilenski's, Yes, sparks, ah Marks, sparks
Speaker 1: to day, I've got to say, and cans all sorts
Speaker 1: of fantastic steakhouses.
Speaker 10: You don't go to Chapel twenty twenty in Merckville. Yes,
Speaker 10: he's a great steak there.
Speaker 1: By the way, when people used to mention restaurants on Tebo,
Speaker 1: they used to get stuff for free. Now now him
Speaker 1: full price.
Speaker 10: Right, So it's just actually in say this, but what
Speaker 10: we're talking about here though, But yeah, but we do
Speaker 10: love our Chapel twenty in America. They are great people.
Speaker 1: But this is a reallyation because I think if you tried.
Speaker 10: To bring Australian American beef into Australia, I don't think
Speaker 10: it would have a lot of pickup, no, you know,
Speaker 10: I think. But then there's also another thing that we
Speaker 10: have to acknowledge here, and that is and you sort
Speaker 10: of hinted at it just there, Paul, when Donald Trump
Speaker 10: came out and said, hey, we're gonna do these tariffs,
Speaker 10: We're gonna start protecting our own stuff, well, it kind
Speaker 10: of brought out that, you know, the EU and Australia
Speaker 10: and a lot of other countries have been tariffing and
Speaker 10: in fact just blocking things. Now. You know, biosecurity mayor
Speaker 10: bay not be the reason, but there's an awful lot
Speaker 10: of you know, protection as well as for our beef farmers.
Speaker 10: And you know, I love our beef farmers. I love
Speaker 10: all of our Limary producers are great and you know,
Speaker 10: and we just do fantastic beef here. And I don't
Speaker 10: know that would be you know, much cheaper. I don't
Speaker 10: think you'd get that sort of you know, I don't
Speaker 10: think the mark would would take it.
Speaker 1: Up position, which is, well, no, I didn't say I'm
Speaker 1: taking the free treatment. No no, no, no, no no no
Speaker 1: no no, no, sorry, I have taken it. I just
Speaker 1: put my hand on the grill a.
Speaker 10: Little bit because because actually, no, no, no, I am
Speaker 10: a modified free trader, you know, and I actually just
Speaker 10: think that, you know, when do you start to attack
Speaker 10: Donald Trump or tabs, you have to acknowledge that we
Speaker 10: all do and that it is fair for countries to
Speaker 10: protect their industry.
Speaker 1: Fair point, Henry, We had lots of plugs and lots
Speaker 1: of things in there, so we apologize for keeping you waiting,
Speaker 1: but important things needed to be our good people by
Speaker 1: the way, So again, do you think this is something
Speaker 1: that the government should go anywhere near being willing to trade.
Speaker 4: I don't think we should be compromising biosecurity standards at all.
Speaker 4: I think James makes a lot of good points. I
Speaker 4: don't think there's going to be a strong market for
Speaker 4: American beef here. But I think the most important thing
Speaker 4: is we set these rules for a reason. It's not
Speaker 4: necessarily against American beef. We actually allow American beef imports here,
Speaker 4: but we just don't allow them if they are from
Speaker 4: cows that have come from elsewhere or have the risk
Speaker 4: of coming from elsewhere. We want to ensure that we've
Speaker 4: got eyes on all the you know, from the from
Speaker 4: the start of their lives through to when they finished.
Speaker 4: We want to ensure that we have the proper biosecurity
Speaker 4: measures and Unfortunately we don't have those in other areas
Speaker 4: of the American continent, so we have to make sure
Speaker 4: that nothing is going to compromise our beef industry here.
Speaker 4: And I think the government should be sending a really
Speaker 4: strong message to the Americans that we're not willing to
Speaker 4: compromise on that. We're happy to talk, happy to get
Speaker 4: around the table, but in terms of austray and biosecurity,
Speaker 4: that's the line that we have never crossed in the
Speaker 4: past and we shouldn't cross now.
Speaker 1: Can I also give a shout out to Mumu in
Speaker 1: Brisbane and the Gold Coast and on reader's behalf or
Speaker 1: to Francois in Melbourne. She loves us taken the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. All right, Now, let's get to something
Speaker 1: you'll see, which is one of the things the Labour
Speaker 1: Party put on the table at the last election was
Speaker 1: trying to increase the amount of subsidies for people to
Speaker 1: have solo on their roof batteries at home. Now, Henry,
Speaker 1: to me, this seems like another version of something that
Speaker 1: frankly worked previously, which is when Tony Abbott was talking
Speaker 1: about things like direct action right able to essentially bring
Speaker 1: your power bills down by getting off the grid is
Speaker 1: a good idea. But of course, as soon as you
Speaker 1: start to put free money on, here come the cowboys.
Speaker 1: How do you think this is going to go in
Speaker 1: the next couple of years?
Speaker 4: What we've seen similar schemes rolled out in South Australia
Speaker 4: and Victoria and they haven't really had the level of
Speaker 4: take up that those governments are anticipating.
Speaker 1: The fear that.
Speaker 4: I've got, Paul, is that ultimately, when you go down
Speaker 4: the path with these schemes, you're ultimately taking away from
Speaker 4: those who can least afford it and giving it to
Speaker 4: those who actually can afford to put on a battery
Speaker 4: or a solar system within their home. So I've got
Speaker 4: concerns about the inequity of this. I look at the
Speaker 4: constituents of mine who are struggling to put food on
Speaker 4: the table, struggling to make ends meat, and I just
Speaker 4: worry about the costs that we're imposing on them in
Speaker 4: order to subsidize those who can probably afford to put
Speaker 4: on these sort of systems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think you're too, because look self
Speaker 1: off the grid, lots of people I'm doing well.
Speaker 10: It makes sense in certain circumstances, you know, like it
Speaker 10: may it makes sense if you've got a country place,
Speaker 10: you know, you gotta have a solar battery and when
Speaker 10: the power goes out, the battery kicks in.
Speaker 1: That sort of thing.
Speaker 10: But dive into this program, you know, you're talking about
Speaker 10: two point three billion dollars. Two point three billion dollars,
Speaker 10: you know, on top of everything else. Here's the thing
Speaker 10: that struck because this article that was in The Australian
Speaker 10: about this the company there's these five different kinds of
Speaker 10: batteries that you can have and you can sign up
Speaker 10: for it and they'll manage the power and maybe you
Speaker 10: get some money back, and it's it was very sort
Speaker 10: of whiz bang and cool. But two point three billion
Speaker 10: dollars to get a battery. Now, I looked at the
Speaker 10: companies that made these batteries and almost all of them
Speaker 10: guess where they make their batteries.
Speaker 1: Uh, China, China, that's correct, China.
Speaker 10: And and and here's the thing, you know, this is
Speaker 10: the this is not you know, the Albanezi government talks
Speaker 10: about the future Made in Australia program, but it's giving
Speaker 10: all of this money to these future Made in China programs,
Speaker 10: which is exactly what everything renewable, the solar, the batteries
Speaker 10: and all of that is. I have an idea for
Speaker 10: a power system. It's revolutionary. You come home, you flick
Speaker 10: a switch, the lights go on, You pay a pretty
Speaker 10: reasonable price for it, and everything just works. We used
Speaker 10: to have that in this country. We used to have it. Yeah,
Speaker 10: take me back to this next by.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, Well, thankfully our time machine
Speaker 1: will not be solid power. We've got a diesel generator
Speaker 1: hooked up to it. So I'll see you after the show.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break back with more back with these lads. James,
Speaker 1: get ready because you're about to fire up about rubber bullets,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and a lot of fruitcakes trying to pretend
Speaker 1: Orange man bad. Thanks very much for watching a little
Speaker 1: TV update in the moment or two is time my
Speaker 1: thoughts on the end of the project. Henry Pike, the
Speaker 1: LNP member, joins us now from beautiful Coins and kiss
Speaker 1: the ground on the way out of the studio for
Speaker 1: me mate, and none other than the one for James Morrow. Well,
Speaker 1: you can kiss anywhere you want the man cave, you know,
Speaker 1: to know what else you could say this skuy? After that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's talk about what's happening in Los Angeles. Now.
Speaker 1: Obviously an awful lot of attention today was on a
Speaker 1: member of the free press copying the rubber bullet, that
Speaker 1: being the Channel nine reporter who was standing between where
Speaker 1: the police were and where the police were firing. If
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it here, it.
Speaker 5: Is rubber bullets of protesters moving them on through the
Speaker 5: heart of lak.
Speaker 1: All right, but as for what all this is about
Speaker 1: illegal immigration tens of millions of people. Trump set it
Speaker 1: up perfectly as a way of changing the subject, perhaps,
Speaker 1: but still, which is to go after the most left
Speaker 1: wing state with the silliest of things, knowing that the
Speaker 1: craziest of protesters will turn up. How long does that
Speaker 1: last before people start to saying a week of this?
Speaker 10: Well, you see, here's the real danger here, Paul, because
Speaker 10: you know this whole thing. The approximate cause is that ICE,
Speaker 10: the immigration Custrians supports people. They went and they were
Speaker 10: doing a bunch of raids to pick people up, and
Speaker 10: a lot of these people, according to the White House,
Speaker 10: were people who were gang members, sex criminals, people like
Speaker 10: that who were still there illegally, and they want them
Speaker 10: out of the country. Most Americans support getting illegals out
Speaker 10: of the country. There's been ten or eleven million. You know,
Speaker 10: we reckon you know, how you do that? I don't know,
Speaker 10: It's complicated, but you got to undo what Biden did.
Speaker 10: Biden really messed the country up. But do it in
Speaker 10: La well, of course you've got all I mean, the
Speaker 10: place is blasically one by communist Karen Bass. You know,
Speaker 10: there's all these activist groups, radicals. The place loves the riot.
Speaker 10: They're almost like the French, you know, but you know
Speaker 10: the uh. But then you get these sorts of scenes here.
Speaker 10: I mean, these protesters are nuts. You know, they're trying
Speaker 10: to you know, throw bricks through cars and you know,
Speaker 10: throwing stuff off over pass the point shutting it out.
Speaker 10: Something my mail is, my male is that they get
Speaker 10: Triumph shut down LAX tomorrow overnight, is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1: We'll see if protests the protesters.
Speaker 10: Are going to try and do some sort of action
Speaker 10: in lex Now, this is sort of a bit like
Speaker 10: what they're trying to do is rekindle the Black Lives
Speaker 10: Matter thing in twenty twenty, you know, and they want
Speaker 10: to get that rolling in cities across the country. Now,
Speaker 10: I actually don't know whether or not this is going
Speaker 10: to catch fire in the same way BLM did, because
Speaker 10: you know, you're talking about this thing. We've got these
Speaker 10: scenes here, Paul where people are demonstrating, waving Mexican flags
Speaker 10: around and burning cars. Now, you know, I'm sorry, as
Speaker 10: you said, and I think I wrote this in my
Speaker 10: column today too. If you are protesting, like because you
Speaker 10: want to stay in this country and be part of
Speaker 10: the American dream, that ain't it, son, That is not
Speaker 10: a way, you know, And I was thinking about this, like,
Speaker 10: but you go back to the Civil Rights movement in
Speaker 10: the sixties, black Americans marching with dignity with American flags
Speaker 10: because they wanted part of the American dream. These people
Speaker 10: don't want part of the American dream. They want to
Speaker 10: basically bring Mexico or wherever they come from into America. Separatism,
Speaker 10: it's Balkanization, it's levity, civil war territory. And this is
Speaker 10: actually really the endpoint of the failure of multiculturalism.
Speaker 1: Well, sir Henry to that point, I mean, let's localize this, right.
Speaker 1: It always does my head in and it has for
Speaker 1: decades when people are waving around flags of the country
Speaker 1: they are not in. Yes, at times the thing they
Speaker 1: may be protesting may be relevant to the place of
Speaker 1: which they are from, or have relatives all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. But again, in this case, waving around a
Speaker 1: Mexican flag because the United States is saying, well, you've
Speaker 1: got to be a citizen to be here, doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like a moral eye ground. But you've seen plenty of protests,
Speaker 1: even in places like Brisbane where plenty of flags are
Speaker 1: being flown around and aren't the Australian flag. It's not
Speaker 1: in service of anything to do with Australia.
Speaker 4: You're dead right, Paul. I always find that strange when
Speaker 4: you see a protest, and often they'll be flags totally
Speaker 4: you know this is associated from the protest. You'll see
Speaker 4: Palestinian flags being flown at an Indigenous protest or vice versa.
Speaker 4: It makes no sense to me why people want to
Speaker 4: surround themselves with flags that don't belong to them or you,
Speaker 4: that aren't associated with the cause that they're after. But
Speaker 4: those scenes in la have just been shocking. It's terrible
Speaker 4: to see in Australia and caught in the crossfire there,
Speaker 4: But we wouldn't tolerate that in our country, you know,
Speaker 4: And I think that it's important for us to look
Speaker 4: at it through the prism of many US presidents have
Speaker 4: caught out in the National Guard before to deal with
Speaker 4: crises like this, and both Republican and Democrats presidents have
Speaker 4: done it. I think it's really laughable to see a
Speaker 4: guy like Gavenusom, who's been so much part of the
Speaker 4: problem in California for so long, trying to wag the
Speaker 4: finger now at Donald Trump for trying to actually step
Speaker 4: in and try to restore peace in the cities of
Speaker 4: Los in the streets of Los Angeles, it's quite laughable,
Speaker 4: perhaps not more laughable than individuals flying Mexican flags when
Speaker 4: they want to stay in the United States, apparent.
Speaker 1: But also the LA mayor is just trying to put
Speaker 1: it back in the horse after her behavior and around
Speaker 1: the fires of a few months.
Speaker 10: Well, Karen Bass is a big part of the problems.
Speaker 10: You know, she's incompetent, she's incredibly hard left, you know,
Speaker 10: and the l A government, the LA City government, and
Speaker 10: the California Steak government fund an awful lot of these
Speaker 10: radical organizing groups that are then going out and creating
Speaker 10: the protests.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that the debautally families in the news
Speaker 1: at the moment now as you know on Drinker. So
Speaker 1: I have no preference in this matter, but I imagine
Speaker 1: there may be some other opinions on the panel's evening
Speaker 1: Apparently they're pulling back from some of the red wine production,
Speaker 1: suggesting the youngest people don't particularly like it. Obviously they
Speaker 1: still sell it, but hence was the story around there today,
Speaker 1: Henry red White, is this an Is this a serious
Speaker 1: matter that you'll be raising in the Federation Chamber? Please don't.
Speaker 4: Well, I think our wine industry is of national significance
Speaker 4: and I've been part of an inquiry in the last
Speaker 4: Parliament into market access into India and I'm sure there's
Speaker 4: heaps of Indian middle class. I'm sure there's millions of
Speaker 4: them who want to enjoy good Australian red wine. And
Speaker 4: I think it's a disgrace that we're pulling out old
Speaker 4: bonds like that. That's that should be very concerning, and
Speaker 4: I think the government needs to do harder to try
Speaker 4: to get Australian market access into India.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, there's one thing, Paully that the government
Speaker 10: could do to help the wide industry, and that would
Speaker 10: be to cut the insane taxi that we have on wine, spirits, beer.
Speaker 10: Oh and just kind of also put a little plug
Speaker 10: in for tobacco, which of course created the all vap
Speaker 10: shop mess in all of our cities. You know, like
Speaker 10: we don't need to go in substize and industry. And
Speaker 10: aside from the failure of parenting that this shows generationally
Speaker 10: that young people aren't necessarily taking up red wine the
Speaker 10: way they should.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay, wrong, no, yeah, I just know when
Speaker 1: you introduced the secret, but will you give them a
Speaker 1: little you know, okay, you know, a little fit to
Speaker 1: be all right.
Speaker 10: So but the point is is that, you know, like
Speaker 10: if we're concerned about the wine industry, well let's stop
Speaker 10: belting it with all.
Speaker 1: Of his tax yep, correct, don't forget that bottle of
Speaker 1: Bundy rummers. I always say's sixty three percent tax. Thanks,
Speaker 1: thank you, ladies to appreciate it. See you were get
Speaker 1: in a moment or two. Is time plenty to talk about,
Speaker 1: including is t has MANI going to have an election
Speaker 1: or not? Or are they going to get a new
Speaker 1: premier without an election? Some news tonight, mon a sec.
Speaker 1: I'm sparing a thought for our mates in Tasmania tonight
Speaker 1: because we don't know if there will or won't be
Speaker 1: an election. You know the story most of no confidence
Speaker 1: moved by the Labor Party, supported by the Green supported
Speaker 1: by Independence, means that either the premier has to go
Speaker 1: or he presses the big red button and we are
Speaker 1: off to an election. Now he's planning to go off
Speaker 1: to an election. In fact, he was talking with Bridget
Speaker 1: Archer and is now suggesting that she will be running
Speaker 1: for him in the seat a Bass, basically running in
Speaker 1: the state version of what she had held in the
Speaker 1: federal Elament for multiple elections. However, some people in and
Speaker 1: around the Tazzi political scene, including a rather prominent former Liberal,
Speaker 1: is suggesting, no, you don't have to go to an election,
Speaker 1: you can just change the premier.
Speaker 11: An old saying in politics, the worst day in government,
Speaker 11: the worst day, worst day is better than the best
Speaker 11: day in opposition. And I think sadly in six weeks
Speaker 11: times or so, the few members of the Liberal p
Speaker 11: Orp who don't lose their seats the election are going
Speaker 11: to find that out the hard way.
Speaker 1: So a large, a last ditch effort is being suggested
Speaker 1: by some not suggesting that this is the majority of
Speaker 1: the party rum or it's going to happen tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: I'd like to tell you what might be on its way,
Speaker 1: which is that the former federal senator and a local
Speaker 1: Liberal legend, Eric Abbetts, is being suggested as a potential
Speaker 1: replacement for the existing premier. Now, of course that would
Speaker 1: mean you'd have to get the existing premier to try
Speaker 1: to stay in the Parliament for a while to keep
Speaker 1: the numbers up, or go after a by election. You
Speaker 1: get how all that works. So who knows where all
Speaker 1: of this is going to end up. But if it
Speaker 1: ends up at an election, the suggestion is that because
Speaker 1: Labour's got everything federally and the tides out on the
Speaker 1: limbs at the moment, then they could potentially end up
Speaker 1: in a worse situation, particularly in the north in and
Speaker 1: around things to do with the stadium. But but I
Speaker 1: stay what I said last week, which is you can't
Speaker 1: be pushed around by an opposition, an opposition that yes,
Speaker 1: was able to make the most of the numbers that
Speaker 1: they had. But honestly, who knows whether the people of
Speaker 1: Tasmania will be annoyed at the reason for the election
Speaker 1: and therefore the result may will not be as obvious
Speaker 1: as is seemingly the case. But there is one way
Speaker 1: to avoid the election that is going to be to
Speaker 1: change the premiere. The premiere and I don't often get along,
Speaker 1: but I back him in on what he's had to
Speaker 1: say about the wrecking that is the Greens and the
Speaker 1: Independence and the Labor Party. Now, finally, you will have
Speaker 1: heard by now that the project is going to go
Speaker 1: off the air at the end of this month. This
Speaker 1: would be the moment in time where you would expect
Speaker 1: a person who has been often pilloried by that program,
Speaker 1: or I rolled by that program, to go ding Don
Speaker 1: the Witch is dead. Guess what I'm not, Because any
Speaker 1: show to be on as long as they have has
Speaker 1: a certain amount of success. I've disagreed with almost every
Speaker 1: piece of content that they're put to wear, but are
Speaker 1: there are plenty of talented people that are behind it,
Speaker 1: and I don't like the idea of people working in
Speaker 1: Telly having fewer opportunities to work in Telly. I also
Speaker 1: think that we should keep as many news programs around
Speaker 1: for as long as possible. Why because we want people
Speaker 1: to be getting information, even the stuff that we disagree with,
Speaker 1: from as many potential sources as possible. Now again, I
Speaker 1: am hearing the words of one of my radio mentors suggesting,
Speaker 1: do not show mercy to those that will never show
Speaker 1: you mercy. Well guess what I am going to. So
Speaker 1: the people who have lost their job, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: the people who work at the technical side, the production side,
Speaker 1: and yes, some of the people who appear on camera.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Of course if it was in reverse, you
Speaker 1: know exactly how they treat it. But that's why we're different.
Speaker 1: So do tomorrow up