1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This podcast is being recorded and produced on gaddiical Land. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: country and elders past present. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: We extend our respect to any First Nations Aboriginal and 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander people joining. 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: Us today, always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm Britney Saunders and. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm all right hey, and this is High Scroll as 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: the podcast version of your favorite group chat. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: If it's trending, going viral, or has your group, we're 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: talking about it coming up on today's episode, I'm gonna 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: make the call right now, Matt. This is the best 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: episode we've ever done. 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: You Rack Carr. 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Yes, this has been really fucking good. So I'm just 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: saying that. That's what I'm saying. But oh my god, 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: have we got some stuff to talk about in this episode. 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: We got so many things we're talking about, scammers, scam calls, 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: scamming people. 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: I have been scammed, yes, by a customer, and I'm 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: here in scrollers to tell you the story. I'm not 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: putting this on Insta or anything. It's an exclusive and 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: you're not going to believe it, Matt, couldn't. 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: It is one of the best stories I've ever heard 25 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: Britney say, and the way she tells it, I was 26 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: on the edge of it. 27 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: Else you what Matt always says to me, hurry out, 28 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: you're taking so long here story. 29 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: He was like, keep going, Oh my gosh. I was enthralled. 30 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: But anyway, I've almost been scammed. I've also scammed someone 31 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: else before. We talk about everything. We expose ourselves in 32 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: this episode. Plus, Brittany's got a really good idea on 33 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: a way of how to save money in the cost 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: of living crisis. It's pretty unhinged, and I don't know 35 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: if I am. 36 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Yes, you're all invited. 37 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm on board with the idea yet, 38 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: but I don't know. You be the you be the 39 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 2: judge Scrollers. 40 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Plus, Matt Scott is questioning something that we've never thought 41 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: about before, and it's regarding rocket ships. I know it 42 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: sounds random, but you're probably gonna feel the same as us. 43 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: I know that we're not the smartest tools in the shed, 44 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: but that conversation made me feel really dumb. All that 45 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: and more coming up on this episode of High Scrollers. 46 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: Deal me in dull. Let's go all right, it's a 47 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: new way to start the podcast. I didn't know who started, 48 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: but I was waiting for a good morning. 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Well it's not morning anymore, actually, oh so I think 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I can't say it. It's actually twelve forty one pm. 51 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: At the time that we're recording this, it usually is morning. 52 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Good morning, Matthew, Good morning, Matthew. How are you today? 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: Feeling average? But you know what, glad to be here. Oh. 54 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: By the way, we made a broadcast channel on Instagram. 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: If any of you aren't part of it, go to 56 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Matt's Insta profile because it's annoyingly not on my bloody 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: profile because you made it. If you go on Matt's 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: actual profile, you'll see it. It's just called Scrollers. Tap 59 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: it join then you can chat with us. Someone I 60 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: put in there the other day. What has been your 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: favorite Scrollers memory so far? And I love that so 62 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: many people wrote the episode where you were on painkillers? 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: I know. Oh, fingers crossed for another hospital trip soon 64 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: so that we can bring you the end to you 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: and you know and loved that day, I know, And 66 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: what a great time that was in my life for. 67 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: A good podcast, like a change. 68 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: Of tone, Yeah for sure. Yeah, I love that we've 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: created that little broadcast channel. Sure, there are a lot 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: of things about the broadcast channel that are annoying, Like, yeah, 71 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: when you share it to your story my photos, I 72 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: wish we could put like the high scroller's logo is. 73 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Your profile picture. But hopefully Instagram allows us to change 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: the little pictures on our broadcast channel. 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you still don't have replies in your 76 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: other ones. 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that pisces me off. I did a little rant 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: in my channel last night about that. So the way 79 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: that Instagram works, and I get it. They come out 80 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: with new features and instead of just giving it to 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: every single Instagram account, they just will like give it 82 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: to a random percentage of users, and I guess they 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: test out this feature and see if people use it, 84 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: then they like spread it out to every everyone else. 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: So in our broadcast channels, which is like in the 86 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: dms for any of you that don't know, it's like 87 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: a group DM, Matt got a notification people can now 88 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: reply to you in your broadcast channel. So every time 89 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Matt writes in his people can just click reply and 90 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: then you It creates like a whole chain of people 91 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: talking to one another and everyone can reply to one another. 92 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: It's amazing, But I don't have that on my own 93 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: Instagram account, so any channel that I create, no one 94 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: can fucking reply to me. But because you created ours 95 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: and I've joined as a moderator or admin or whatever, 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: everyone can reply to us in there. So fingers crossed, 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: I get it soon, but like, come on. 98 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, come on, We've got to iron out 99 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: some of the finer details in that scrolls. Also, you 100 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: are like well and truly already much more of a 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: contributor to that group than I am doing that. 102 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: I will be the main moderator and you can be 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: the celebrity that pops in every now and then. 104 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like I don't know how people 105 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: feel about broadcast channels because they're so new. I don't 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: want them to be annoying, you know. I want them 107 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: to always provide value. I never really like jump into 108 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: my broadcast channel, my personal one, so I'm like really 109 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 2: trying to like give them something a little bit different. 110 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: All I just did a photo of you in ours 111 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: a studio, so that makes. 112 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: Sense a little behind the scenes. I love that one 113 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: thing we're doing is giving the no context spoilers in advance, yes, 114 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: so that you can kind of try and guess, because 115 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: my whole thing was I would every Tuesday post mad 116 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: no context spoilers on my Instagram story, and people because 117 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 2: they're usually listening before I'm even awake because they're always 118 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: on the walk and everything, they've already heard it, so 119 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: they're like trying to connect the dots. But I thought 120 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: it's actually good if you're in the broadcast channel because 121 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: now you get the spoilers a day early, you can 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: try and guess. 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: What we're going to talk about it and it's probably 124 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: always going to be wrong because I feel like there's 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: no context spoilers, Like what the fuck is that? Because 126 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: when you finally this and you're okay, they all make 127 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: sense now. Yeah, and we're going to try to give 128 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: you more exclusive stuff in our broadcast channel. We obviously 129 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: only made it a couple of days ago, but we 130 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: want to give you like first access to things you know, 131 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: never seen before, content, all sorts of stuff, and we're 132 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: only just getting started with it, so please join if 133 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: you haven't already. 134 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: And it's just fun to continue the conversation because I 135 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: think like people forget that we just like talk here 136 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: and then that's basically it. And yes, unless people send 137 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 2: us an email or write a comment on our post 138 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: or I do get a lot of dms, Like every 139 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: time I wake up to a new episode, there's like 140 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: all these dms. But now perhaps like that's where those 141 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: people can chat and then other people can chat with them. 142 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: You can quite literally have a conversation with everyone in there, 143 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: which is awesome. 144 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: So it's nice, but but nice people only thinks we 145 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: don't want, we don't need drama in the broadcast channel. 146 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: Did we get some hate? Bring it on, it'll spice 147 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: it up. 148 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Block a block a blocker, duh, and be blocking everybody 149 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: you know who I have to block, though I cannot 150 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: stop getting I haven't stopped getting scam calls like all week, 151 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: like they've ramped it up lately, yes, and I'm a 152 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: bit over it. Are you getting like like literally last 153 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: night I was sitting in my car, I was at 154 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: a meeting. Who was sitting in my car? Last night? 155 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: In the space of ten minutes, I got four scams. 156 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: After hours as well, I've known. And they're from mobile numbers, 157 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: so you think it's someone legit, but they're actually calling 158 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: from like a call center or whatever using a fake 159 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: like mobile number. Yep. I've been getting the same. AJ's 160 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: been getting the same, but mine not on another level recently, Matt. 161 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: What's been happening? Oh, you've made me worried. 162 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So I get those regular ones, and do you 163 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: find a lot of the time when you get these 164 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: whatever calls they are, they just hang. 165 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: Up half the time, Yeah, half the time, and. 166 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: Another time they're trying to sell you energy or whatever 167 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: it is. I've been getting spam calls, but they're sales 168 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: pictures for my business, like a pitch, not picture like 169 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: a picture on the wall. So I've had so many 170 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: people comulately, Hey Brittany, like they know my name, Hey Brittany, 171 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm calling you up about Fate the Label, Like they 172 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: know I'm Brittany and that I'm fake the label. They 173 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: somehow know my company d and they've got my number, 174 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: mind you, my number is nowhere, like it's not listed 175 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: on anything. It's not on I went through my LinkedIn 176 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: like thinking, where the fuck have I accidentally put my number? 177 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: And they have my email too, And usually I just 178 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: say I'm not interested in a sales call, Like I'll 179 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: just say most of the time they're nice, and I 180 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: was say, is this a sales call and they're like, 181 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and I'm like, oh, I got interested. Sorry, 182 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: but they have like a really friendly approach, and so 183 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: I got one quite literally just a couple of days ago, 184 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: and the guy on the phone was really nice, like, Hey, Britt, 185 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm so and so calling from here. I'm calling up 186 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: about Fate and I'm like, I said, I'm sorry, but 187 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: how did you get my number? Like I just outright asked, 188 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: because I'm like, how the fuck are all these people 189 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: getting my number email? They know the company that I 190 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: own and know what we do. And he said, oh, 191 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: I got it from this website called Lucia And I'm like, 192 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: what's Lucia? And he spelled it. I'm like, you spell 193 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: it out because I wanted to write it down. L 194 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: u s h A. I'm fucking calling these people out. 195 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Oh here we go people out. 196 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: So then I'm like, what the fuck is Lusher? So 197 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: then I'll go to Google right now Lusher. Lusher provides 198 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: high quality, unique, premium data where you need it most, 199 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: on social networks, the web, salesforce, or directly on your product. Essentially, 200 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm pulling up their homepage now connect with verified business 201 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: to business contact data for effective prospecting, access accurate contact 202 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: details to grow your business, build stronger relationships, and close 203 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: more deals. So businesses can go and sign up to 204 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: this lusher pay money. I'm assuming, like, oh, they's start 205 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: for free, but I'm sure there's paid bits in it too. 206 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,239 Speaker 1: They can sign up to this and then find details 207 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: of anyone they want to contact that is in business. 208 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: I have never spoken to this company. I have never 209 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: given them my details. I've never given them permission to 210 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: put them on their fucking website. So what did I do? 211 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: I contacted them. I contacted this Lucia. Mind you, there's 212 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: no way to contact them, like you know, you don't 213 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: go to contact us, and they've just got like an 214 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: info at Lucia dot com. I had to pretend that 215 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: I was interested in signing up. So I put in 216 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: my fucking company details, how many employees we had, all 217 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: because I wanted to talk to someone from there, because 218 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm pissed off. I'm going to pretend that 219 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested because I just want to talk to someone 220 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: at this company. So I sent through a thing on 221 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: their website, like filled out all the shit, and then 222 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: I got an email from someone that works there. And 223 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: they said, Hi, Britney'sawners, thank you for your recent interest 224 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: in Lucia. I would be happy to schedule in a 225 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: time with you to follow up in person. What is 226 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: the best number at which you would like me to 227 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: reach you, or if it's easier, please use my calendar 228 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: link here. I look forward to connecting soon. 229 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 2: And I said, Hi, tell me you've had the meeting. 230 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: No, but I should. I should have went and had 231 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: a meeting and then called them out on it and. 232 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: Got them on the phone. 233 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: I should have, but I was just raging when I 234 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: got that as well, and I'm like, fuck you, that's 235 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: not why I'm contacting you. So I wrote hi, person's name, 236 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: thanks for getting back to me. I was actually reaching out. 237 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: And this is the twenty second of August, so what 238 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: is it now, the twenty. 239 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: Ninth no response? 240 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I said, thanks for getting back to me. 241 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: I was actually reaching out because I'm a business owner 242 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: and have been receiving an appalling amount of cold sales 243 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: calls lately. Someone who called me told me they got 244 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: my number and email off your website. I have never 245 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: given permission to have my details listed on Lusha. Can 246 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: I please have them removed now and never have them 247 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: put on your website again at any point in the future. 248 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, no fucking reply follow up? 249 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: I send another one? 250 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I did so I did this morning because I knew 251 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: that I wanted to rant to you about this. I 252 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: just replied again today, Hi, can I please get a reply? 253 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: Fuck you, Lucia. Like, I get that you're a business 254 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: and that's great for people wanting to connect, but I 255 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: feel like they should get permission off the business owners. 256 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: But where have they got it from exactly? 257 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking, Like, is someone out there stealing 258 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: people's data and selling you know, people always talk about 259 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: your data being stolen whatever. I have never given any 260 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: business to business fucking networking company rights to my email 261 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: and phone number, yet put it on there right that 262 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: I own fate the label and then people can call 263 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: me directly and try and sell me something. 264 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so fuck you. Wow. So that's so weird because 265 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: I'm getting totally different scam and spam calls, Like you 266 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: sound like you're talking to like actual humans. 267 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm talking to like down to earth normal people, and 268 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, and so he was so nice. That's why 269 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: I said, I'm so sorry, But how did you get 270 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: my number? And how do you know my name? He's like, oh, Lusha, 271 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? 272 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm getting like sometimes automated messages being like 273 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: this says I'm assage from the Australian government. You have 274 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: a tax bill and I'm like, like, it's like automated. 275 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: In fact, you know what, I have a voicemail because 276 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 2: one of them sent me a voicemail like this is 277 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: what I'm getting. Let me play this voicemail for you. Yeah, 278 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: cong ju, you're either wachuchshing fantine. 279 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: He went for me, went for. 280 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: Like, sorry, I don't know what you've said. She sounds stressed. 281 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: I hope she's all right. No, I got people to 282 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: translate and I can't remember what it said, but it 283 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: was like a scam vibe. 284 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Well, and I'll tell you what I always think with 285 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: these scam calls. I feel so bad for all, like 286 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: the vulnerable elderly people that would like get these calls 287 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: like you owe money to the ATO and they fucking 288 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: fall for it. Please enter your card details. Now imagine 289 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: the poor old people that have fallen victim to these scams. 290 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: I know, you know, I almost fell victim to a 291 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: scam recently, and I'm one of those people who are like, 292 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: if you've fall victim to an online scam, all right, Eddie, 293 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Actually you know because I see tiktoks and stuff of 294 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: people being like, guys, it's got a scam. Hopefully this 295 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: never happens to you. And they lay out all the 296 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: things like they lay out what happened, and I go, well, 297 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: obviously that's a scam, right, like, but then I nearly 298 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: fell for it. So I'm in this group on Facebook 299 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,119 Speaker 2: for like books like books by swap and sell. Yeah, 300 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: and it's really good because you can get like limited 301 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: edition or special edition books or like if I've got 302 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't give away or get rid of 303 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: any of my books. I'm trying to build a library. 304 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: But there are people who like when they're done with 305 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: the book, they'll give it away or swap it for 306 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: another one. And so I'm in there because sometimes people 307 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: just sell them, like on Marketplace and we'll put the 308 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: listing in there. So it was Marketplace listing for all 309 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: these books, and I was like, oh my god, these 310 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: books are so rare, like where like special editions are 311 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: fourth wing and all the rest of it. I was 312 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: like this is so exciting. So I've messaged her, I'm 313 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: going back and forth and she like wouldn't answer my 314 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: questions properly or like get straight to the point, and 315 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: then we just kept going around around and say calls. 316 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: You know what. I screenshoted it to my sister, who's 317 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: like full scam aware, like my sister. My sister thinks 318 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: like everything in life is a scam, and I sent 319 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: her some screenshots. So I will tell you exactly how 320 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: this conversation went because it was really convincing. So I've 321 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: written back to the listing and she was like, Hey, 322 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: where are you from? I was like, Sydney, Australia. What 323 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: about you might cost me too much to get them 324 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: because she'd listed them for five dollars each, and I 325 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: was like, if she's somewhere in America and she's sending 326 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: twenty books, like that's very heavy. So I'm like, the 327 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: shipping probably won't be worse. And she didn't answer where 328 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: she was from and how much it would cost. She 329 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: just goes, can you afford five dollars per book? And 330 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: I was like yes, and she was like, what's your 331 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: shipping address? Give me the list of the ones you 332 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: would want. I gave her my address, no, no, no, man, 333 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: thankfully I did use my business address and not my 334 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: home address. 335 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: But that's the first sign if someone's asking for your dress, 336 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: straight up. Really, but she's selling me books, don't trust. 337 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: So that watch she should be addressing. Give me the 338 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: list of the books that you would like. And so 339 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: I've given her the address thankfully, as I said business dress, 340 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: and even the name is alright, hey, like I haven't 341 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: to used my name then, and then she just said okay, 342 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: and that was it, and I was like, are you Australian? 343 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: The price will be a little bit different for me 344 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: if you're elsewhere. Thinking if she's in America and she's 345 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: wanting five dollars per book, well. 346 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: This marketplace, Yeah, how did you Why would you think 347 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: it was overseas? Did you set your your thing to worldwide? 348 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Well she's in that book group and that's ah, that's 349 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: the world yeah, a worldwide groupe. And then she goes, 350 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: how to your payment method? Oh my god, I'm so stupid. 351 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: I go, I'm happy to just bank transfer unless you 352 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: happen to be in Sydney. Start. 353 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: I was like hipal always everyone, this is your PSA. 354 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: I was like, I can pick them up and give 355 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: you cash, but the chances of you being in Sydney 356 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: slim because she still hasn't told me where she's from. 357 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: So red flags left ron. 358 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: Really, you see, I'm so dumb because I and then 359 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: she goes, she goes, do you have PayPal? PayPal? Yes, 360 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: I think that would be easier. I said, yeah, I 361 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: can do that, and then she sent me her PayPal 362 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: user name. I said, where are you located? I want 363 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: to work out how much shipping will be because I 364 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: don't want it to be too expensive. She goes, don't 365 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: worry about shipping, it's already included. And I'm thinking to 366 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: myself like, I don't understand. You don't even know how 367 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: much this is going to like cost. So now I'm 368 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: getting like a little bit weird. And this is the 369 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: point where I. 370 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Like, screenshop on any of the other things that made 371 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: your question it's no, yeah, I'm. 372 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: Going she won't answer any of the questions that I'm asking. 373 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: Why is she avoiding the question? And then I'm like, well, PayPal, 374 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: why would she want me if it was a scam? 375 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Why would she want me to go through. 376 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: Payper because you can get your money back straight away 377 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: of PayPal. 378 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, here's the kicker. No, you can't, because what 379 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: happens is when you they go let me know once 380 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: you were done with the like PayPal thing and all 381 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: the rest of that, I said, what's the email address 382 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: for PayPal? I'm in Australia, so we don't do use 383 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 2: the names here, we do email address, which is true. 384 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 2: I needed her email address. I'm on there, the money's 385 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: there ready to get transferred. Which, by the way, like 386 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 2: the fire like like all of the books only came 387 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: to like sixty dollars. Yeah, so I was like, even 388 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: if I'm getting scammed, it's sixty bucks, you know what 389 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: I mean. Like, I was like, it's not like I'm 390 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: spending five thousand dollars on books and if I lose that, 391 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: it's the end of the world. I'm like, sixty bucks, 392 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: Like we can, we can take the risk. Is where 393 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: my mind was out at the time. And then I 394 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: asked my sister and she was like, that is so 395 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: clearly a scam. Do not respond. But my thing is 396 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't understand. I asked my sister, 397 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: like I don't understand. She said, you know, through PayPal 398 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: like if I didn't get the stuff, She's like no, 399 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: because when you put it through PayPal, like their settings 400 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: will be like friends and family payments only or something 401 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: like that, so anyone who pays them becomes friends and family. 402 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: And then you can't go with that shit. You can't 403 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: get a refund because you've nominated them as like a 404 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: friends and family, which you'd think that you would have 405 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: to prove that you're like I would have to select 406 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: that box or something. So I don't know. I didn't 407 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: go through with it, but I am like notorious for 408 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: being like, oh, everyone is dumb, dumb for being scammed online, 409 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: and meanwhile I almost got scammed, but also sixty bucks, 410 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: like at least it wasn't night she didn't know. 411 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: And you hear stories on the news. You see segments 412 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: on a carr And affair and stuff where people get 413 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: scammed out of tens of thousands. I saw one the 414 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: other night. I didn't actually watch, but I was listening 415 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: in the background and someone had been scammed of all 416 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: of their savings and they couldn't get it back. Wow, 417 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: like straight to jail. And I'll tell you another thing 418 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: that I love when you see I don't know if 419 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: you've seen on TikTok. But there are guys out there 420 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: who have like YouTube channels and TikTok accounts where their 421 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: whole content is calling out those scammers, and like they 422 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: somehow tap into the cameras in these scam officers and 423 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: they watched them through the camera. It's like I can 424 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: see you right now, and like they know their real name. 425 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: And then the scammers really freak out. Yeah I love 426 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: watching that card. 427 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: I love that too. Yeah, And they're like, that's a 428 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: nice blue shirt you're wearing. 429 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: Yes, And they somehow also can like reverse the scam 430 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: and scam the scammers. How they do that with technology. 431 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: But those people are out here doing God's work. 432 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: I don't know his name. That that guy that like acts 433 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: like a little old woman doing the gift cards and 434 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: she's he's like, oh, say you want me to put 435 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 2: it here, And you can hear them on the other 436 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: line and being like, no, don't put it there, and 437 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: they're putting it in here and then love it. They 438 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: like redeem the gift card in the wrong place. 439 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: Time. Sorry, But if you're a scammer, not that we're 440 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: listening to any scammers on here. You scum of the 441 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: fucking earth. Yeah, agree, out there scamming innocent people, you 442 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: are scum of the earth. 443 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: Crazy to me, but also have to give them props 444 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: for being so smart. You have to pull that off 445 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: because because I. 446 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: Couldn't pull it off the hustle. But you're right, scum 447 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: of the earth. 448 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. Like I think, like, how how 449 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: could you actually not only just scam people then get 450 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: away with it? Also like I feel like the risk 451 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: of getting caught of scamming people is not worth going 452 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: through the. 453 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Scam maybe because if we're in different countries, Like are 454 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: there any laws there might have to be in the future, 455 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: international scamming laws. 456 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: It just seems like a lot of effort, and I 457 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: couldn't be bothered. I think, I think, I think I'd 458 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: scam people if I could be bothered, but I can't. 459 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Actually I used to scam people in have a hotel. 460 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 2: Oh, how I never played that? 461 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: Oh. So we would do these games in habo, like 462 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: cozy change like costume change game, and then you would 463 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: like invite everyone to your room and set it up 464 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: as a game and there's like one good piece of 465 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: furniture that people would win at the end if they 466 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: they won. And so you have themes kind of like 467 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: the dress to Impress game. You dress up and people 468 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: win the theme and dress the best and each person 469 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: gets kicked out as they like get out of the 470 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: game kind of thing. You left with the final two 471 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: and whatever. And people had to pay or donate furniture 472 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: to play, and then you just kick them all out 473 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: at the end and make your room like private and gone, 474 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: and then you keep on their coins and the furniture. 475 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: And I have scammed in that way admittedly, Oh my god. Yeah, 476 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: And Falling Fernie was another Habo game, like furniture just 477 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden pops up on the ground. Everyone's 478 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: gonna run to it kind of like musical chairs and 479 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: say you just kick them all out at the end, 480 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: and they've like paid to play. Wow, But it wasn't 481 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: real money. It was like little furniture or like little 482 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: Habo coin things. 483 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: Always been a cash grabber. You have absolutely no no, okay, 484 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: I've got I've got respect for scammers, but also scum 485 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: of the earth. You heard it here first. Hey, As 486 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: I said, if I had the brain capacity and the 487 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: will power and could be bothered, I'd probably try it. 488 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if any scrollers have ever scammed someone and 489 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: email email Please email us, have you ever scammed someone? 490 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: Like we will keep it anonymous and I won't call 491 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: you some on the earth. If someone has a good 492 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: story about scamming, yeah, fucking hear something. 493 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 2: Maybe like a revenge scam story. I feel like that's 494 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: when it's appropriate to scam someone is in a revenge situation, 495 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: you know, Like I mean and going back to me 496 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: saying if I could be bothered, I'd never be praying 497 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: on little old ladies and things. But I just feel like, 498 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, scams is in like you know, getting a 499 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: refund for something that isn't Oh my god, I actually 500 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: have done a scron before. 501 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: Oh I've got a story too bad? Oh god, story. 502 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never told this on the internet before. 503 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: Can you start first, because I've got a story. 504 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: Okay, mine's probably not as bad as yours, but more 505 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: so embarrassing for me. So basically, when I was like 506 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: first starting out on YouTube, this like photographer basically messaged 507 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: me and was like I want to do like a 508 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: big photo shoot, like it's going to be free and 509 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: like blah blah blah, and it's like just to increase 510 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: my portfolio, but you can use all the photos. And 511 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: I was like sure, like I'd love to do a 512 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: photo shoot like me getting free picks and stuff, and 513 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: he's like, you know, i'd gone like so I was 514 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: speaking to my manager at the time, and he was like, 515 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: you go and take my card, my credit card, go 516 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: and buy like all new outfits and for the photo shoot, 517 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: because like, you know, you want to look good, you 518 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: want to get new outfits, you want to look put together. 519 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: Let's get and he guess, but keep all the tags on. 520 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, yeah, I know, not knowing 521 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: what was going to happen here. 522 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: So you didn't think why he said that. 523 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: I was like, keep tags on. Maybe he wants some 524 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: hard to know whatever. So anyway, then I go with 525 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: a credit card. I go to General Pants Co. And 526 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm like tap tap tap on the credit card, buy 527 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: all these clothes. I'm like whoop. And then I went 528 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: and did the photo shoot and all these like brand new, 529 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: Like I spent one thousand dollars on his credit card 530 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 2: for like all these clothes from General Pants. Mind you, 531 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: I had like two dollars. I was still working with 532 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 2: McDonald's at the time for like two hundred bucks a week. 533 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Lad no money in my card. So I was like, whoa, 534 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: I've got a credit card. I've never had a credit 535 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: card and still to this day, I don't have a 536 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: credit card and never had. I'm like, I've got a 537 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: credit card. Ending all this money in general pants co 538 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: going crazy. And then anyway, the girl who served me 539 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: knew who I was and was like, oh my god, 540 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: hey like love your video your YouTube videos and stuff. 541 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: And I'm hitting off with her and I'm going, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, 542 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: Look at all this money I have. I've got a 543 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: credit card. I'm getting all this it's got on these outfits. 544 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: Go and do the photo shoot. And then I like 545 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: give all the clothes to him, and I'm like, there 546 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: you go, there's a credit card back and all the clothes, 547 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: and I know what you're going to do with him? 548 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: And he's, oh, no, You've got to go back and 549 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: return them. I went, but this is what do you mean? 550 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: Because this this is actually what happens. And see to him, 551 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: working in this industry for so long, that was a 552 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: very normal thing to do because so many people do 553 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: that in the industry. 554 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: I've heard that people do it like for celebrities and everything. 555 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're getting you're going and buying an outfit, 556 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: wearing it for a photo shoot or whatever it may be, 557 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: and returning it the next day and getting the money 558 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: back and keeping all the tags on. That evidently happens 559 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: so often. That is the one and only time I've 560 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 2: done this. But the walk of shame I had to 561 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: do back into General Pants. 562 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: How did you go and do that? Thank you? 563 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 2: I said that. I said that he should have done that, 564 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: and he was like, no, because you have got to 565 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: go back to the same store that it was from, which, 566 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 2: like I was younger, iive I had no idea, and 567 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: I went back to the General Pans Co which was 568 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: on the Central Coast, and like my manager at the 569 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: time was living in Sydney, so I was like okay, 570 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: So I had to go back. I had to walk 571 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: back in to that girl who knew I was and 572 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, Baier's regret, Like I just I just 573 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: want to like get I couldn't put it or so 574 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: she refunded the whole thing the very next day. But 575 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: then I was posting the bloody photos and it's one 576 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: of those things that have never left my mind, I'm. 577 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: Like this, wonder if she still follows you. 578 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'm like this girl from General Pans knows, like, 579 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: imagine me coming in, getting all the you know, making 580 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 2: your budget for the day, basically coming back the next 581 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: day and going I'm sorry, I want to return We've 582 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: stuffed up, and then you know, four weeks later, there 583 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: I am posting the photos of me and all the 584 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: clothes on Instagram. I was like, this is like the 585 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: most mortifying and embarrassing thing of my life. And I've 586 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: never like done that again because of how guilty and 587 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: gross like it was to do that. But like just 588 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: setting all of you know, that happens so often in 589 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: this and people I actually know people who are The 590 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 2: other thing is, well, they're really big influencers with like 591 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: millions of followers. I know for a fact that they 592 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: have gone to, you know, a nice boutique dress shop 593 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: in Double Bay, got an address for the night, warn 594 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: it to an event all night, and then gone and 595 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: returned it the next day. And that is happening way 596 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: more than you probably think. 597 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: It is why I worry that people will do that 598 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: at fate, Like they'll buy a dress and then wear 599 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: it and then just send it back like which is dodgy. 600 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: But I've got a high scroll. 601 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear your story. 602 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: Why Scrollers exclusive I actually was going to talk about 603 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: in my Big Business podcast, but I feel like it's 604 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: more spicy crossover. Yeah over shout out Big Business and 605 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: high Scrollers collab. I recently I got an email I'm 606 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: talking to weeks ago from after Pay and actually, let 607 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: me get the email up. I'll read it out. 608 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: I could just tell by your body language the way 609 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: this story is going to go. You're like, here we go. 610 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 2: We are we calling someone out in this Yeah, I know, 611 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: because you act in the same way as you did 612 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: about Lusha. 613 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: This is me just calling people out left, right and center. 614 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: Lord. 615 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say this person's name, but I 616 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: got an email from someone that works out after Pay 617 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: in Australia Urgent Incapital letters dot dot after pay disputes 618 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: fate the label with a case number. Hi, Brittany, I 619 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: hope you're well. Our finance team has noticed an increase 620 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: in disputes from one of your customers. It appears they 621 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: may be using the dispute system to get refunds at 622 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: your earliest convenience with someone from your team. Please log 623 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: into our business hub to address these disputes. Blah blah blah. 624 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, thank you very much. So I've logged into 625 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: our after pay hub and you can go to the 626 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: section which has disputes. So if for whatever reason, someone's 627 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: shopped with after pay and let's say they haven't got 628 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: their parcel for whatever reason, you can go into your 629 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: after pay account or whatever and be like this never 630 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: showed up kind of thing. Like anyone can do that. 631 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: I think you can do the same with PayPal, and 632 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: you could even do the same, like with your bank 633 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: if a parcel hasn't shown up. So then I went 634 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: into our disputes thing and there they were about fifteen 635 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: disputes over the last like two months. I'm talking from 636 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: one customer. Wow, I'm not going to say her name, 637 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: but I can see it right here on my screen. 638 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: She has thought that she was cheating the system of 639 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: after pay and fate by placing orders with us and 640 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: then just hitting like I never got this or whatever, 641 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: thinking that no one would recognize that and that she 642 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: would get her money back. And because she did this 643 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: all within such a short time frame, she probably thought 644 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: that she was getting away with it because she did 645 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: it one day and was getting away with it, so 646 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: she did it again and again and again. What's disgusting actually. 647 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: Is she. 648 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: I hope she's fucking listening to this. 649 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm so nervous. 650 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: She is in our Fate Society Facebook group. She's part 651 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: of our community, which is like this group that we have. 652 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: She engages in that. Not only that she listens to 653 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: the podcasts and on all of these recent orders that 654 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: she's been doing with us, mind you, the orders of 655 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, six hundred dollars, four hundred dollars, because 656 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 1: she has thought that she's getting everything for free, so 657 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: she's been placing huge orders multiple times a week. She 658 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: even leaves notes on her orders because customers can leave 659 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: notes at check out like this is one of her 660 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: notes on her one of her most recent orders from 661 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: August eighth. I absolutely love how your Fate pieces make 662 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: me feel. So I'm grabbing some goodies for my bestie 663 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: support to support her through a rough time. Hoping to 664 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: also snag some black down towns for her to give 665 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: some to give her some confidence in interviewing for a 666 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: new job. Thank you to the team for always shipping 667 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: out our orders so quickly. I also want to say 668 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: I absolutely love the videos Claire has been posting. I've 669 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: been watching them on repeat. Such an asset to your team. 670 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: I would love for her to pack my order like 671 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: that's a new employee that we have. Thanks again, absolutely 672 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: love Fate and Xander if you know you know which 673 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: is the producer of my Big Business podcast. She has 674 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: been leaving notes on her orders, love your products. This 675 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: is another note from another order which is August second, 676 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: so just a few days before the August eighth one, 677 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Love your products. This is my fifth order this week. 678 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: She is she has thought that she's getting all of 679 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: this for free. Fate Society, definitely making my fomo strong. 680 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Could I please get one of the pink be'es in 681 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: my order. We'd love to post a try on hole 682 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: with matching pink Bee. You snarky things being in my 683 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: community like in our Fate Society, listening to the podcasts 684 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: you know following, And she very well may love us, 685 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: love Fate and everything, but she's doing this all the 686 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: while thinking that she's gonna dispute every single one through 687 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: after pay and not have to pay a cent and 688 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: keep the clothes. Number one, you're scamming after pay because 689 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: they will have to, you know, do something about it. 690 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: And then you're scamming me because I would have to 691 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: refund every single order if those disputes like went through 692 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of thing. So like, how can you want to 693 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: be part of a community, love a brand, listen to 694 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: the pods, but you're absolutely routing the system and trying 695 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: to take advantage of my business at the same time. Like, 696 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: that's disgusting. So I went into Our Fates because straight 697 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: away I jumped in Our Fate Society group because she 698 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: mentioned it and saw she was in there, she was 699 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: a member. I sent her a message. 700 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm sitting on there just quietly over here. 701 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm sweating my arm. 702 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: Pick five thousand dollars. Oh my god, she's trying to 703 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: get a free product. 704 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: This is like the best season finale to any TV show. 705 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: I am so engaged in this story. Keep going, come on, 706 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: and oh we don't even stop for an ad break. 707 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: I avereach her because I just wanted to give her. 708 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the benefit of doubt, even though I 709 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: know she's taken the absolute piss Hey said her name. 710 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: This is just from my Facebook account because I'm in 711 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: the group too. It's pritty here from fate. I saw 712 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: you a member of our fake society group and have 713 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: placed twenty orders with us, that's how many she's done 714 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: in total, and have left us some beautiful notes because 715 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: they were nice notes. I've been in conversation with after 716 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: pay today about all of your recent disputes. I have 717 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: cross checked all of your tracking numbers and can see 718 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: all of your parcels have been delivered. I was wondering 719 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: if you could provide some clarification as to why you 720 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: have disputed fifteen orders since June third. Thank you. Never 721 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: got a reply, so I went into the after pay 722 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: hub and so I then go through and dispute her 723 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: dispute kind of thing, and then I've got to provide 724 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: the tracking details and everything. So I went through and 725 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: did that for every single one. This girl is gonna 726 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: ohe after Pay thousands and thousands of dollars because she's 727 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: thought that she could get away with placing all these orders. 728 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: Why would you do them all in such a short 729 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: time too, Like they're all going to stack on top 730 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: of one another. And if she doesn't have this five 731 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: grand or whatever, to pay after pay, then she's gonna 732 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: get hit with all those after pay fees, you know, 733 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you miss a payment or whatever, 734 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: they like charge you. I don't know how after pay works. 735 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: I've never had it neither, but if you, you know, 736 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: miss your payment for the month, they'll like put I 737 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: don't know what percentage on top, so then you'll accumulate 738 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: interest as well. 739 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: Then if you don't pay it pretty sure it just 740 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: goes to debt collectors. Like my god, why would you. 741 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: Be so stupid? So, like this is my message to everyone. 742 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: Number one, you can't scam in that way, like it 743 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: doesn't work, like the system will flag that, just like 744 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: it did for after pay. And also you're taking advantage 745 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: of me, like I would have been out of pocket 746 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: all that money and the product as well, like she 747 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: would have kept the clothes and I would have had 748 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: to have refunded all that because after pay would have 749 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: pulled it through my account. Yeah, never heard back from her. 750 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: She hasn't placed in order since. 751 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: That is, Like I don't even feel bad about my 752 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: like photo shoot now because I thought that was the 753 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: end of the world, but that truly has to blowing 754 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: that out of the water. I like, I like right, 755 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: and like. 756 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: The whole being in our community and being really nice. 757 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: That is what makes me feel like sick that she's 758 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: listening to the podcasts loving it, following me being in 759 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: our community, engaging with our community. And sure she very 760 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: well obviously is loving our clothes, but she's wanting to 761 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: get them for fucking free. 762 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't want to say like fair enough, 763 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: but I'm like, fair enough, you're scamming someone, but like 764 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: to go above and beyond and be like, love you 765 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: so much? And can this person pack my order and 766 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: love and be so like. 767 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: And no name Xander's name, society that is wild. You 768 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: cannot do that, Like that's fucking fraud. And so that 769 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: was it. I haven't heard from her, like I've submitted 770 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: all the things, so she's gonna have to pay that 771 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: money to have to. 772 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: Pay Wow, what a story. Yeah, don't fuck with bls, 773 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 2: that's for sure. 774 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: Don't fuck with my business. Like people can think whatever 775 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: they want of me, they can think they don't like 776 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: me or whatever, but don't fuck with me and my 777 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: business and my money when I'm also running a genuine 778 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: business like go fux some massive corporate corporation, like, don't 779 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: scam them, don't scam me. 780 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, disgusting. 781 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: If you're listening, I hope you feel bad. I hope 782 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: you feel bad. And wow, no, can't so anyway, that's 783 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: what happened in the last couple of weeks. 784 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: That is insane. Like I'm sitting in mind, wrap up 785 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: the episode now, I'm done, Like I can't even we 786 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: can't even talk, we can't even move on. I think 787 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: that is my royal flush of the weight hearing that story. 788 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 1: We haven't even got to the royal. 789 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: Love. It's giving close friends. But today that's all right, 790 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: let's move on there. Let's talk about flash. What is 791 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: your royal flush of the web clothes and thank you Brittin. 792 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: That's my royal flush. I got scared. Oh my god, 793 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: my royal flush. This week is a video that I 794 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: actually saw yesterday and it just got me thinking about something. 795 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: I'll play it out for you. 796 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: Does anybody want to start a family with me and 797 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: other people? 798 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: Too? 799 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: Strategic family? 800 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: Don't get in your head about it. 801 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: It's just to be able to compete with other groups 802 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: of people. 803 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: I have my clear renewal coming up. 804 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: I have my phone bills like one hundred and sixty 805 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: dollars a month. 806 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: I can't do it. 807 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: I'm out here by myself, like trying to compete with 808 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: families and groups of people. I need a subscription alliance, Spotify, Fubo. 809 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: I can't do it anymore. I need to be on 810 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 3: a group plan. I need to start a family, but again, 811 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 3: just strategic. Maybe we could go out to dinner every 812 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: once in a while as a family, or maybe a 813 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: dinner at home. I don't know. 814 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: I just need to start a fan any Okay. So 815 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: essentially he's saying he wants to start a family with people, 816 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: but in a strategic way. And it just got me thinking. 817 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: And you know what, I think this is a thing 818 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: because I've read it on the internet before. But with 819 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: you know how expensive the cost of living is becoming, 820 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: like rent is fucking through the roof, mortgage repayments are 821 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: through the roof, bills, groceries, phone, everything. It would actually 822 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: be so beneficial. And I know it's not the traditional 823 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: thing to do, Like, you know, we grow up in 824 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: our little family and we get our home and whatever. 825 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: But if families came together to live kind of in 826 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: a shared lifestyle in order to quite literally make it 827 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: easier for everyone and save money. In that kind of way. 828 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: It's almost like we need to have a block of 829 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: land and we put you know, six houses on it, 830 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: and six families live in those six houses. It's kind 831 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: of giving cult. 832 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: But you know what i mean, I'm not sure what 833 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This has gone a totally different way to 834 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: where I thought you were taking it. So basically, you're 835 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: just you've discovered the idea of what an apartment building. Like, 836 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: what are you trying to say? 837 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: He is saying is like he can't keep doing this 838 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: on his own. His netflix is this much and he 839 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: spotifies that much like let's all come together. And what 840 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm taking away from what he's saying is like, let's 841 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: do things together. And I've always I've seen people talk 842 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: about it on the internet before they have like is 843 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: it like a starting a commune? A commune? Yes, So 844 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: let's say, how like good would it be? Just let's 845 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: think theoretically, instead of one family buying one house on 846 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: one block of land and paying everything, it would actually 847 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: make so much more sense financially if ten families come 848 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: together and buy a big block of land and put 849 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: all their houses on it, or apartments or whatever apartments 850 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't really work at it's owned by a strata, but 851 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: like private land houses on it, and then everyone kind 852 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: of shares the costs of those things. 853 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: So a townhouse or a duplex. 854 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: No, everyone's paying it together. 855 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: You know I'm not following, Sorry because scammer, you've taken 856 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: me on so many journeys today. So what you're saying 857 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: is like five families come together, put all their money 858 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: in a pot, buy a block of land, put all 859 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 2: their money in a pot, and build all these houses. Yes, 860 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: but I still don't understand what the difference is between. 861 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: Are you just saying that would be cheaper than if 862 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: they all bought their own piece of land. 863 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: Well, if you and I bought one block of land, 864 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: put two houses on it, and then we live in 865 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: our own little houses, but we're both paying the land 866 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: rates and paying off the mortgage for that block of land, 867 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: it works out a lot cheaper than everyone fending for themselves. 868 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: And that's essentially what I think he's saying in the video. 869 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: And I think if you actually think about it, that 870 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: would make so much more sense if people came and 871 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: teams together groceries everything, like everyone chips in and it 872 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: gets spread out evenly. But because it's like more people, 873 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, paying, it works out cheaper. 874 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: But are you saying that that's what he was saying. 875 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh, that's just no, I gathered. 876 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's what he's saying. I think 877 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 2: what he's saying is, Hey, Britt, you're now the mum, 878 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: I'm now the dad producer. Hannah, you are the order 879 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 2: and produces Xander from big Business, you are the son. 880 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 2: We are now a family. Let's get the fourteen ninety 881 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 2: nine Spotify account, but we're all using the family account. 882 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: But we're all living out o life. 883 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: He wants people to join in so we don't have 884 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: to keep paying for all like these things. But it 885 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: just got my mind thinking to I have seen families 886 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: that do kind of come together and make one big 887 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: family just for the sake of the costs coming down, right. 888 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: It just got me thinking about that, Okay, and I 889 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: think it's clever. Let's start a commune cult. 890 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 2: I hate people too much. I can't be that close 891 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: on one block of land with six other families. 892 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: Can neighbors living fucking next to you already? 893 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: But I've never even spoken a word to them, Like he. 894 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: Said in the video, we could maybe have dinner once 895 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: a week, like he wants to still be doing his 896 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: own that it'll be nice. 897 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 2: But also but again, I don't think he's saying we 898 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 2: all need to live in the same house. 899 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: Maybe not. I think he's took away from it. 900 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: He's saying, we need a family phone plan because mine 901 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: alone is one hundred and sixty but a family phone 902 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 2: plans maybe one hundred and sixty five. So let's get 903 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 2: a family one and then split the us between us. 904 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get like he's saying it a bit differently. 905 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: He wants to have his own little family kind of thing. 906 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking of that, you're. 907 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 2: Just so desperate for neighbors. You're just so desperate to 908 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: come over. 909 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: For a while, people have been offering that they would 910 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: like to be my neighbor, and my neighbors still piss 911 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: me off. That's a whole other story. Look to say 912 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: that for a future episode updates on the Neighbors. 913 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so basically your royal flush is the strategic families, 914 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 2: and you think that could be. 915 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: Com I think that could be a good thing, and 916 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: like a way of the future with how expensive everything 917 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: is becoming, is people families coming together, not to actually 918 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: be in a family, like he was saying, but to 919 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: help each other out. And I've seen these two other 920 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: girls on TikTok, the Australians. They're living in New York. 921 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: I've actually met them once at an event in Melbourne. 922 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: Caitlin and I can't remember the other girl's name. But 923 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: they're two best friends. They live and work together, they 924 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: share money. So this is another example of that. That's 925 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: literally an example of that. These two besties, they work 926 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: separate jobs, they're both in marketing. They their pay is 927 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: go into one bank account so that they can help 928 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: each other out, and one earns more than the other, 929 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: but they don't care because it's all about just that 930 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: support and stability. And people are like, that's fucking weird, 931 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: and yeah, it is weird, and it's not the norm 932 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: of our society. So anything that isn't normal, people are 933 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: always gonna question me, like, nah, that's not right. But 934 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: they do it to help each other out and it 935 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: makes both of their lives easier and better. Yes, there 936 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: is a lot that could go wrong without doing that 937 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: with you, Bessie, but like I get it, and I'm 938 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: kind of here for it, and families could do the same, 939 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: or just even big groups of friends. 940 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like, do you have anyone in 941 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 2: your life that you would be able to like do 942 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 2: that with. 943 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: I almost feel like it would have to be randoms 944 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: coming together so that there's no like pre existing relationship 945 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: to be affected. 946 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: It's like business mixing business and family. Well, it's like 947 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 2: buying coming in and altogether randoms. 948 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: I think that's why that Caitlin and her friend that 949 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: are doing that together. Everyone in the comments is always like, 950 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: how do you do this? Because they've got that friendship 951 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: already and that could be detrimental to that. But it 952 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: could be randoms. I'm just gonna start my own fucking town, 953 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: all right. 954 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: It's we've approved in this episode scamming, We've approved cults. 955 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: What next If this episode isn't the episode to cancel us, 956 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what is. Well, maybe my next maybe 957 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 2: this next topic might cancel us because it'll be something 958 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 2: else to approve. I don't know where we can take this, 959 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: to be honest, but my royal flush of the week 960 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 2: is the fact that but now that I'm saying this 961 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 2: out loud, it is quite morbid. But my royal flush 962 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 2: is the two astronauts who are currently stuck in space. 963 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. I don't know all that much 964 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: about it, but they were only meant to go there 965 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: for a lit. 966 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're only meant to be there for a few weeks. 967 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: And the ship was meant to go up, dock at 968 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: the International Space Station and come back down. It's docked 969 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 2: at the International Space Station and it has broken down, 970 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: and the you know, NASA or whoever has said, sorry, 971 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: we actually can't come to fix it and repair it 972 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 2: until January. So you're stuck up there for six months. 973 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: And now they planned for this. They have more than 974 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: enough food and water and everything to survive the entire time. 975 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 2: They literally just have to sit tight in the rocket 976 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 2: ship until January when they can come and fix everything. 977 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 2: And then I think they make their descent back down 978 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: to Earth in February. If all goes according to plan, 979 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 2: and whoever goes up there to fix it and whatnot, 980 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: we'll be able to deliver them more food and everything 981 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: in case more things go wrong, because God forbid, the 982 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 2: second one goes up and it breaks down as well. 983 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: Okay, so my first thought is, can't they just send 984 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: a second one up there and they get out of 985 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: that one, get into the new one, and down they 986 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: come and just leave the thing up there. 987 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,959 Speaker 2: I don't think there's it's just like a plane where 988 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 2: it's like we're able to just. 989 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: Put it to the helmet, fucking float out and float 990 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: back into the other one. 991 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. I think it's like they have to work, 992 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: like they have to build a rocket. I don't think 993 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: they just have a rocket that goes up, comes down 994 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 2: and then goes again. Got a spare one, sure, rockets, 995 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 2: Like I'm dumb, but like I think rockets launch up 996 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 2: and then they just like float back down Like I 997 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 2: don't think they they come back down to Earth and 998 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: like land safely. I think you like parachute out of 999 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: rocket and lands in the sea right Like. I don't 1000 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: think rockets come down again and like hit the ground. 1001 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: A point, I've never seen a rocket land, right because. 1002 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: I think you shoot up into the sky, because don't forget, 1003 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 2: when a rocket shoots up, the rocket shoots up, but 1004 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 2: then the rest falls away and then you're just floating 1005 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: through space. And then I think you just got to 1006 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 2: like push yourself somehow back because of earth land. 1007 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: It's not coming and then it quickly turns around and 1008 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: then reverse parks into its exactly power. Does a rocket land? 1009 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, but this is a thing, so I 1010 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: do rockets land. I think that they can't, like they 1011 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: can't just send one up because I think it takes 1012 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 2: so long to build them, because no rocket just comes 1013 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 2: back down and goes, oh it, we'll go again. 1014 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: Bear rockets sit, I. 1015 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: Don't think so. I mean, who knows, clearly, not if 1016 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 2: they haven't gone and rescue these people. But any of 1017 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: the fact that it's a Royal Flush, the reason it's 1018 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: My Royal Flush is not the fact that these two 1019 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: poor human beings are stuck flattened through. 1020 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: You would go insane, by the way, like I would 1021 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: get cabin feedback. 1022 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing that they've been doing interviews 1023 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 2: via satellite back to news stations and stuff. Anyway, what 1024 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 2: made it with My Royal Flush is there is a 1025 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 2: video of the two of them that I saw online 1026 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 2: and it's a it's a man and a woman. Now 1027 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: the woman is standing there with the microphone and she 1028 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: is like, yeah, we're very comfortable up here. We're having 1029 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 2: the best time and where and you know, we're just 1030 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,439 Speaker 2: sitting tight until they can come and rescue us. And 1031 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 2: he is next to her fucking shitting himself. He's not coping. 1032 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 2: He's having a full row panic attack. He looks like 1033 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: he's struggling to breathe not coming with the fact that 1034 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: he's got another six months or have a lot. 1035 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: He's fucking coping either. 1036 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, well, I think it would be nice 1037 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: switch off, have a bit of a relaxating holiday and. 1038 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: Imagine knowing you can't go anywhere, You're stuck in these 1039 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: tiny little thing you don't even have gravity. 1040 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 2: Nice it would feel Fuck I think nice. I think, oh, 1041 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: that's all I want in life. You know. The other 1042 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: thing I'm worried about in space is like how does 1043 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: washing yourself work? Showering? And also because obviously there's no gravity, 1044 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 2: but they have I've seen a video where they use 1045 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: like this little just looks like a little spun squeeze 1046 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: packet of yogurt, but it's filled with water and they 1047 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 2: just sort of like squeeze it onto their skin. But 1048 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's all the water just like floating through 1049 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 2: the air. How do you shower? And also how are 1050 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 2: you doing a shit? Because where's that going? Does that 1051 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: just floating past your head? Do you know what? And 1052 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: God forbid, you've eaten some fucked space food, and the 1053 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: runs like where's that? 1054 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: I've seen all the videos and we can't go down 1055 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: this rabbit hole. But then I've also watched all the 1056 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: conspiracies about those space ship videos and how it's all 1057 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: fake and they're just like in a set and whatever 1058 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: with gravity. But they have like a little toilet thing 1059 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: that they go into. They put their bum down, and 1060 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: I think their bum covers the whole hole. But what 1061 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: if you're a boy and you willy comes up a 1062 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: little bit and then it's floating, would float, and then 1063 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: we would be floating. They're swimming in their own piss. 1064 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard enough to aim as it is, you know, 1065 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 2: imagine ad no gravity into the mixture. Yeah, oh god, 1066 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: Golden showers twenty four to seven of the International Space Station. 1067 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 2: You heard it here. 1068 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: First, they are swimming in their own pooh and wee part. 1069 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. This is what I These are the 1070 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 2: questions I need answered. I don't give a fuck about 1071 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: any of your other stuff that you got going on 1072 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 2: up there, or the scientific we're fixing the space station. 1073 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: Now tell me how you take a shit. 1074 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: My question is why the fuck do we need to 1075 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: go up there in the first place? Right, there are 1076 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: some things that we just are better left undiscovered. The 1077 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: ocean floor and fucking outer space. Yeah, why do we 1078 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: need to send people up there anyway? 1079 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: See ocean floor I think is scarier than space for me. 1080 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: Ocean floor the pressure. I mean, I've dived down like 1081 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: three meters and it feels like my head's gonna explode. 1082 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: I literally into a rock pool at the beach and 1083 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: I put my head underwater, and I'm like, oh god, 1084 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 2: my head, my ears, my ear drums are burst in love. 1085 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: You know. I can't imagine going twenty thousand legs under 1086 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 2: the sea to the bottom where all those fucking ag 1087 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 2: fish with their big teeth. It's fitch black Duglas. Imagine 1088 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 2: the feeling of the pressure on your head. I can't, 1089 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 2: Oh my god, ridiculous. 1090 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: I can't even touch the bottom in the pool pool. 1091 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, tried to do it. 1092 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: That's why space to me, that feels freeing, that feels 1093 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: that Get me up there, let me float. I just 1094 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: want to float around. 1095 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: Time for the first ten minutes. Mat But think about 1096 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: it like you would get sick of it after fucking months. 1097 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: I would go in out of space for half a day, 1098 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: and I reckon, that'd be it for me, Like, I. 1099 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 2: Want to get it back grants and fly. 1100 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: I want to get back on solid ground. Yeah, half 1101 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: a day masses. 1102 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 2: Somewhere we can feel zero gravity. I would like to 1103 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: feel the no gravity. I would like to feel what 1104 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 2: it feels like and just like float for a little bit. 1105 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: But getting over to do it because we've got these 1106 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: rooms here which are quite like concealed already, so we 1107 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: just steal them off and then put all the gravity. 1108 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 2: I'd be McBrien would explode though, sucking all the gravity out. Anyway. 1109 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 2: That's my royal flash is that you have to try 1110 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 2: and find that video of if you can, of the 1111 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 2: news article where she's like, yeah, we're are going well, 1112 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 2: and he is like like standing next to her, he's 1113 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: right red, you and. 1114 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 1: I and you're the one that's just like we're having 1115 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: a good old time. Yeah, And I'm like, get me 1116 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: out of here. 1117 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, if this podcast makes enough money, can 1118 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 2: we fly to space? Like, let's do. Let my god, 1119 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 2: let's be the first ever fucking podcast to broadcast from space. Surely, 1120 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: let's do it. Surely fund it. I'm doing a go fundme, 1121 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 2: Scrollers donate. If all of you donate a dollar, we'll 1122 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 2: be nowhere close to the goal. But but we'll be 1123 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 2: well on our way. 1124 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's another episode done and does it. 1125 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna no, wait, I'm going to save that for 1126 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: the intro. Never mind what I was just going to say, 1127 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: Oh say your things. 1128 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh well wait, this is the end of the episode though, 1129 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 2: So what are you saving for the intro? 1130 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, we do the inside scoop. We record our intros 1131 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: at the very end of our records. Yeah, so we 1132 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: do all of this that we've just done. Now we 1133 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: do this outro and then we do the intro. So 1134 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: I've got something I want to say. I'm going to say. 1135 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: They want it to be your surprise for you to Oh, okay. 1136 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 2: Fair enough, then fair enough, fair enough. I forget what 1137 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to say here. Oh thanks for saying, thanks 1138 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 2: for saying, thanks for Oh my god, it's your scam story. 1139 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 2: You've stuck me out for the day. I'm not I'm 1140 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 2: all wonky. Anyway, thanks for listening to this episode. 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