1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: On scoring Leeds Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. Coming 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: up tonight, Opposition leaders is a Lee in crisis mode, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: with the latest News poll showing the coalition's primary vote 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: falling to a record low. James Willis will break down 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: the day's top headlines. The Victorian government fast tracks proval 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: for one of Australia's largest solar farms. Professor in Primer 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: will be here to discuss that. Josh Hammer will have 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: all your US news, including Donald Trump threatening Nigeria with 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: military action as Christians continue to be slaughtered. And later 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: in the hour, Kinsey Schofield, we'll have the latest on 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: the man formerly known as Prince Andrew and. 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: Left is losing. 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: It features this hideous woman. 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: Nobody likes you and no matter what, you will always 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 5: have been the dom that. 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: Tied for fifth place but first. 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Support for the Coalition has crashed to its lowest point 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: in forty nine years, attracting a primary vote of just 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: twenty four percent. That's in the latest News poll. Opposition 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: leader Susan Lee's net approval has also fallen dramatically. It's 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: now below Peter Dutton's worst ever result. Just when you 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: think they can't sink any lower, they do. Just twenty 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: five percent of voters said they were satisfied with Miss 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: Lee's performance, compared with fifty eight percent who were dissatisfied 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: and seventeen percent uncommitted. Meanwhile, Pauline Hanson's One Nation has 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: seen its primary vote double, soaring to a record high 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: fifteen percent, with other minor parties and independents also hitting 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: new highs. Senior Liberal sources have told The Australian that 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: Susan Lee will finally start fast tracking decisions on policy 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: positions ahead of the final parliamentary sitting week between November 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: twenty four and twenty seven, and she is prepared to 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: split from the Nationals after the Nationals abandoned net zero yesterday. 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this is the Daily 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: telegraphs James Willis James is the coalition in danger of 37 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: splitting over net zero? 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: Well read, I actually kind of think that the Liberals 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: are starting to talk common sense on this. And there 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: was a story that the Australian newspaper ran in the 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: last few hours that indicates that Susan Lee is sort 42 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: of leaning more towards scrapping net zero than she is 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: keeping it, although. 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see. 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the reality is without a coalition, without the 46 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: support of the Nationals, the Liberals cannot win government in 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: the future, and anyone that thinks that is bonkers. The 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: Nationals over the weekend, in the last two weeks have 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: listened to their grass base, They've listened to their public, 50 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: they've listened to their voters, can constituents and realize that 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: net zero with wind solar and not hydro but batteries 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: is just railroading parts of regional Australia. You've only got 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: to go for a drive a couple of hours outside 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: of a city where all these decisions are being made 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: to have angry farmers landowners that say this is ridiculous, 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: we do not want this. And there's no way that 57 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: some National MPs could have backed net zero and walk 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: down the street in their electorates. So it's up to 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: the Liberal Party now. And obviously you've got the moderates 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: the lefties that are saying no, it would be political suicide. 61 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: Well I'm sorry, but they've backnet zero at two elections 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: in a row. Reader, and how has that gone for them. 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: How did it go for. 64 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Scott Morrison in twenty twenty two, How did it go 65 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: for Peter Dutton a few months ago? So they need 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: a point of difference. Net zero is twenty. 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: Five years away. 68 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: I don't think there's much point in saying you back 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: something that is now becoming so toxic amongst your base 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: and allowing voters to go further and further to the 71 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: right and support Paul Enhanson in one nation. 72 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: Do worry it, James that she seems to listen sis 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: In Lee almost exclusively to the very worst people a 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: liberal leader could listen to, the leftists in the media, 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: the labor hacks turned polsters, the same voices they keep 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: telling liberal party leaders, particularly at state level but also federally, 77 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: that they have to veer further left to be electable, 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: when the history shows the complete opposite of that, and 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: at state level certainly the ones who via dramatically left 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: seem to be unelectable. What are you hearing about the 81 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: voices that have the most influenced with the opposition leader. 82 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's more about the voices that don't 83 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: have the influence and should Now if you look at 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: the decisions that Susan Lee had to make reader in 85 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: order to win the leadership, and mind you, with Bradfield 86 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: gone that liberal seat Gisel Capterian initially one that's now 87 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: lost after months of back and forth to Nicolat Bowell. 88 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: So her margin as leader I think is one or 89 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: two votes at best. But when you look at the 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: people on the backbench that have fallen out of favor, 91 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: and you look at the likes of Angus Taylor, you 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: look at Andrew Hasty, you look at Justinenterprice, and you 93 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: look at some of those voices that had cut through 94 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: in the media before the last election, which was Sarah Henderson, 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: Claire Chandler and even i'd say Jane Hume, who seems 96 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: to do a lot of. 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: Media as well. 98 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: These are the people that actually had cut through in 99 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: the media. Susan Lee is a good performer. I don't 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: think she has the media potential to be as sort 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: of opposition leader, and I think that is showing in 102 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: the polls. And unfortunately, by having to do those deals 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: to be leader, she surrounded herself with factional allies, with 104 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: members of the moderates who in my view are simply 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: just not up to it. And as a result, they're 106 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: a mile behind in the polls. So look, if she 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: was smart, and I don't think she will do this, 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: but she would have to realize by now that too 109 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: many talented MPs like you, like Taylor, like just Enterprise, 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: that the media and members of the public like are 111 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: on the back bench and they're not doing enough and 112 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: they should be doing more day to day. 113 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I think her most talented team members are 114 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: sitting on the back bench and that's not great for 115 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: the coalition's chances. But we've got a lot of moderates 116 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: who are happy to mouth off anonymously. One Liberal MP 117 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: has said that breaking up the coalition was a viable option, 118 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: telling the Australian newspaper anonymously, of course, that the Nationals 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 3: had already damaged the Coalition's prospects of winning back city 120 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: seats at the next election. They are terrorists, the Liberal 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: MP said. The first rule of being a parasite is 122 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: not to kill your host. Okay, fantastic, but here's what 123 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson had to say. She had a 124 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: very different take, and unlike the gutlass s bedwetterers who anonymously, 125 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: she actually made her statement on the record. Here's what 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: she said yesterday on Outsiders. 127 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 6: I'm very much hoping the party will not splish because 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 6: I think the only choice we have is to reject 129 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 6: zero in its entirety. These net zero laws are not working. 130 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 6: All Australians can see it. There's no reduction in electricity prices. 131 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 6: Electricity is skyrocketing, emissions are flatlining, Our electricity greed is unreliable. 132 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: This is madness, James. Can Susan Lee turn things around? 133 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: Can she even survive as leader? You look at the 134 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: team now, and then you look at an alternative leadership team, 135 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: say Andrew Hasty just Enterprise Duo. 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: Now, that is formidable. 137 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: That is something that gives the Australian voters a real 138 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: clear choice of the next election. 139 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: Well, the issue with Susan Lee and look, I think 140 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: she's a pretty nice person and indeed had a career 141 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: outside of politics before she got in to the bubble 142 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: of Canberra. But I think the problem is I don't 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: quite know what she believes in. And I look at 144 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: certain politicians and even those from the Labour side that 145 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: in the Albanezy government, and you know clear as day 146 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: what they believe in, what they stand for. And I 147 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: think Susan Lee has been just too wishy washy in 148 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: these early months. But the Liberal Party and this is 149 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: an issue at all levels. And I know we're going 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: to have a look at some of the state issues 151 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: moving forward, but voters are just wondering what they stand 152 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: for and this is. 153 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: A wider issue than just energy. 154 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: Energy I think is going to be a very very 155 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: tough one to stand up, but it is an argument 156 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: that needs to be had. You have to say no, no, 157 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is not about us not believing in 158 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: climate change. This is not about us saying we don't 159 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: believe in renewable energy. We just have to go on 160 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: a path that fits Australia, that doesn't ruin industry, doesn't 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: make small businesses go broke, and doesn't give you the 162 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: grandma and grandpa are an anxiety anxiety attack when they 163 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: open their quarterly bill. We've got to have some sort 164 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: of sensible alternative to this railroaded path that labor is 165 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: going on at the moment. The coalition's got the ammunition there, 166 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: they just have to form that and it means backing 167 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: abolishing net zero in my view, But then you've got 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: to broaden it out. Reader defense, what's our policy on tax, 169 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: what's our policy on the environment. 170 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: You've got to go into housing. You've got to look 171 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: at all those areas. 172 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: At the moment, the Coalition is making the alb and 173 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: Easy government look pretty good, like they're doing a lot 174 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: and they're getting stuff done. But if you look under 175 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: the hood, there are all sorts of issues with their 176 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: many care reforms, the urgent clinics, they're housing stuff, not 177 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: spending enough money on defense. Let's start giving a point 178 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: of difference and only then will they be able to 179 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: win back government. But I'm sad to say it could 180 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: be a long while off. 181 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: Well, there was some polling that came out over the 182 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: weekend showing that the top issue for Australian voters is 183 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: now immigration, and that's another area I think the Liberals 184 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: are at sea. They really can't seem to divorce themselves 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: from this view, big view, Big Australia view of the country, 186 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: and it's at odds with what the electorate want. We've 187 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: already got labor bringing in record numbers and the Liberals 188 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: need to come to terms with that. They need to 189 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: come to a figure that I think is dramatically different 190 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: to what labor have and if it even is as 191 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: low as one hundred thousand, even if there's a pause 192 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: for a certain period, that is something that you could 193 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: find an election on. 194 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: James Well, Reader, I think the most obvious one is 195 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: to look at the migration and Australia's basically who is 196 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: allowed to come here as a starting point, look at 197 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: the definition of skilled migration, and I would argue at 198 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: this point in time that the only migrants that need 199 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: to be moving to Australia are ones that we need 200 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: because there is a skill shortage in that space. Now 201 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: that's a short term fix, and it's not an excuse 202 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: because those skill shortages, we should be doing everything possible 203 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: through tapes and universities and schools to be upskilling Australians 204 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: and get them into those jobs. But the problem is 205 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: that too many people have been allowed to move to 206 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: Australia for a certain skill and that skilled job is 207 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: something that an Australian could do, and then their family is. 208 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Allowed to move here as well. 209 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: And I don't think that passes the pub test anymore. 210 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: If you have that argument with a sensible target, it 211 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with race, it has nothing to 212 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: do with where people are coming from it's just about 213 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: the people we need. That's what the migration program should 214 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: largely be about now. Of course, when there's crisis, you 215 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: can obviously send people, allow people to seek asylum here 216 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: in small numbers that should be comparable to the rest. 217 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Of the world. 218 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: But overwhelmingly the problem is people moving here by plane, 219 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: and that needs to be reassessed and to determine that 220 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: it's only the people that we need, not just allowing 221 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands to move here just for fun. The 222 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: problem has fallen completely by the wayside under Labor, and 223 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: I think the problem is from the last election and 224 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: those moderates and those lefty liberals are saying, hey, we've 225 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: got to scale back this. We can't talk about migration. 226 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: It's too big an issue. We're going to lose too 227 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: many votes. We need to be very similar to Labor 228 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: on that. I don't agree with that. I think if 229 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: you argue it properly and with the right guard rails, 230 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: it is a boat winner any day of the week. 231 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: You have to argue it properly, though, you have to 232 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: actually prosecute the case. You can't just be running scared 233 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: from the debate and expect to announce a figure and 234 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: have it all work out in your favor. And we 235 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: are are fortunate as an island nation. We don't have 236 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: poorert sporters. We can set our ideal population target and 237 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: meet it. Like you said, do what's best for the country. 238 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: James Willis, thank you so much for your time tonight 239 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: joining me now is a steem geologist and author, professor 240 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: in plimber In. The decenter Alan labor government here in 241 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: Victoria has approved one of Australia's largest solar farms, a 242 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty million dollar five hundred and sixty 243 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: six hecte monstrosity south of Wangarata. 244 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: And this has despite vehement. 245 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: Opposition to the project from locals, but planning laws enacted 246 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: by the state government last year to fast track renewable 247 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: projects have left the local community with no avenue for appeal. 248 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: That's despite in more than five hundred objections being submitted. 249 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: This solar farm in is going. 250 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: To be the size of two hundred and eighty mcgs 251 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: and the locals have no say. 252 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 7: Well, just Cinta Andrews is showing that she hates people 253 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 7: who are outside Inn City Melbourne, people who might grow things, 254 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 7: people who might make things in factories, people who might mind. 255 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 7: Thinks she has an absolute hatred of the productive part 256 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 7: of the economy. Now this is communism one O one. 257 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 7: And what she wants to set up is a dupic 258 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 7: power system which is unreliable, which is subsidized in place 259 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 7: of what was the cheapest power system in Australia, victorious 260 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 7: brown coal used to produce power but four cents of 261 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 7: killerboard hour. It's now ten times that amount. And she 262 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 7: is bulldozing farmers. She's certainly not democratic. She doesn't care 263 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 7: what people think. She doesn't worry that these people have 264 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 7: a livelihood, they have a life. They've built up farms 265 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 7: over generations in this area, which is a food and 266 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 7: wine producer. She just doesn't care, and she doesn't seem 267 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 7: to realize. She's buying these solar systems from China, and 268 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 7: Chima makes these using cheap Australian coal, and these replace 269 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 7: our cheap coal systems with very expensive, unreliable energy that 270 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 7: only produces electricity during sunny days. And Victoria is not 271 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 7: known for its abundance of sunny days. 272 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: So we have a few sunny days, Oh yes, we 273 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: have a. 274 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 8: Few second second Tuesday, But she doesn't realize that one 275 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 8: hail storm can wipe this out, that the Chinese can 276 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 8: flick a switch and stop but working. 277 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 7: She doesn't realize that this doesn't produce electricity at night, 278 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 7: and she doesn't realize that people in rural Australia actually 279 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 7: keep the cities alive. So she's showing absolute disdain for 280 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 7: rural people, and that's normal for socialist. 281 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: Ladys, and she's shown disdain for landholders in general. Professor 282 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: of Environment and Planning Michael Buxton has described this decision 283 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: in the King Valley as the autographic imposition of a 284 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: project without any regard for the principles of a liberal democracy. 285 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: And I don't have much time, but what recourse to 286 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: farmers and other landholders have Is there any compensation? For example, 287 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: of this project devalues their properties. 288 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: The government doesn't care. 289 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 9: There is no compensation. 290 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 7: The only recourse farmers have got is to work together 291 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 7: with the Truckees and not provide the cities with food. 292 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 9: And within a week the cities become anarchistic. Well, Melbourne's 293 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 9: already anarchistic, but unless, of course, you're in the business 294 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 9: of selling machetes, and you're in a really good business there, 295 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 9: but that's the only. 296 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 7: Recourse farmers have is not to provide food to the cities. 297 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 7: It's about time farmers showed the same muscle that the 298 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 7: unions who support the tyrannical labor governments have, and that 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 7: is deny the city's food. That is the only recourse 300 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 7: they have. No democratic system is working, no voices listen to, 301 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 7: no logic is used. You have to use muscle, and 302 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 7: the muscle is the stomach. 303 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: Professor Plymer, that is phily a dramatic call to action. 304 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: I just can't see our farmers doing that because they 305 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: have this sense of responsibility to feed the nation, and 306 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: I think they don't want to. 307 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, punish. 308 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 3: City dwellers for the decisions made by the leaders that 309 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: we are electing. Professor Plymer will discuss that at another time. 310 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: Thank you for your time tonight. Now it's time for 311 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: lefties are losing it and I love starting the show 312 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: with world class hypocrites. And there are none better than 313 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: hopelessly out of touch celebrities, whether they're Hollywood stars or 314 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: singers like Philly Eilish. 315 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 10: Love you all, but there's a few people in here 316 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 10: that have a lot more money than me. And if 317 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 10: you're a billionaire, why are you a billionaire? No, heed, 318 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 10: but yeah, give your money away, surety, love you guys, Billy? 319 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 4: Why stop at billionaires? 320 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: Your net worth is reportedly well north of fifty million US. 321 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: Why why haven't you given it all the way? 322 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: Why are you charging more than one hundred dollars for 323 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: the cheapest tickets to your concerts? 324 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: Don't you have enough? Poor, dim witted hypocrite. 325 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: Billy has been sharing her dark political ideas for several 326 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: years now. 327 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: Remember this. 328 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty, campaigning for the Democrats, she seriously 329 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 3: thought Joe Biden was the savior. 330 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: Bord. You don't need me to tell you things are 331 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: a mess. 332 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 10: Donald Trump is destroying our country and everything we care about. 333 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: Let's check in now with the world's biggest victim and 334 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: gas lighter, Michelle Obama. This is really too much, even 335 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: by her poor me standards. 336 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 11: You said we were all too aware that as a 337 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 11: first black couple, we couldn't order any missteps. Yeah, and 338 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 11: you also say, as a black woman, I was under 339 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 11: a particularly white hot glare. 340 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 12: Did you feel that for sure you can't afford to 341 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 12: get anything wrong because you didn't get the at least 342 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 12: until the country came to know us. We didn't get 343 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 12: the grease that I think some other families have done. 344 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: The truth is the Obamas weren't treated like other first couples. 345 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: They were treated a lot better. It was endless adulation 346 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: and on the rare occasions when there was some criticism 347 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: from a couple of conservatives in the media, well the 348 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 3: rest of the media mob would be there to defend 349 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: the couple, to attack anybody who would dare criticize this pair. 350 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: You want to talk about lack of grace, look at 351 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: how Milania is treated. 352 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: Michelle had. 353 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: How many Vogue covers talking about gas lighting. Let's go 354 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: to lefties losing it regular Now the woman who is 355 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: among the most vile creatures to ever feature on MSNBC. 356 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: And that is a crowded field, folks. Here is Jennifer 357 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: Welch with an ugly die tribe against Riley Gaines. A 358 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: genuine woman's rights warrior is Riley Gaines was campaign to 359 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: keep male bodies out of female sports and she has 360 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: been attacked for that work every day, attacked by the 361 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: likes of this fit of banjie. 362 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 5: One thing I want to say about Riley Gaines as 363 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: she sits there and has the moral high ground against AOC. 364 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: When I look at people, if I were to say 365 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 5: who's more christ Like? I would pick AOC and the 366 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 5: atheist Jew Bernie Sanders and the Muslim zoron mom Donny 367 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: A million times every year, Raley Gaines. Because Riley Gaines, 368 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 5: all you do is hate on people. You are wound 369 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 5: up like a cheap clock over trans people. You show 370 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 5: them no grace, no compassion. 371 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Riley Gaines is the one who lacks grace. Well done, Jennifer. 372 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: Another saying take from you. Remember last week she was 373 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: championing crazy women who wanted conservatives to be shot dead. Yes, 374 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: so much compassion, so much grace. That rant might be 375 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: aimed at Riley Gains, but really it would be better 376 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 3: aimed at a mirror. Every accusation is a confession. 377 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 5: And then you have the audacity to get on television 378 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 5: and try to lecture people who fight for the people 379 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 5: that are suffering, that stand and put their arms around 380 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 5: people that need sanctuary, and you try to act like 381 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: you're better than they are. You're an insufferable Nobody likes you, 382 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: and no matter what, you will always have been the 383 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 5: dumb that tied for fifth place. 384 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: In the mirror, Jennifer repeated into a mirror until you 385 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: develop a soul, your delusional line, vile filled lunatic. Now 386 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: let's get back to daft celebrities, this time from the 387 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: acting world. And here is a Turkey campaigning for Christmas. 388 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: Here is Mandy Petinkin campaigning for Zora Mandani. 389 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: He wants him to not just. 390 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: Take over New York City, but also America and then 391 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: the world. 392 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: We are going to win this because we have this 393 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: extraordinary human being who is going to lead our city 394 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: and eventually if we're really. 395 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 7: Thinking our nation and the world to a better, safer, 396 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 7: all inclusive existence. 397 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: And that's what I love about this guy. 398 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: You know, someone in Kamala Harris's team needs to have 399 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: a word with her, needs to have a serious talk 400 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: with the former vice president about doing interviews after happy hour. 401 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 4: I mean, this is just unedifying. 402 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 7: Are you kidding me? 403 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 13: This guy wants to create a ballroom for his rich 404 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 13: friends while completely turning a blind eye to the fact 405 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 13: that that babies are going to starve when the snap 406 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 13: benefits end in just hours from now. 407 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: Come on, so. 408 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 13: I'm not going to be distracted by Oh does the 409 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 13: guy have a big hammer. 410 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: What about those babies. 411 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: Still to come? The latest from the US, including Donald 412 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: Trump threatening Nigeria with military action as Christians continue to 413 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: be slaughtered. Josh Hammer has the details Welcome back now. 414 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 3: What is truly disturbing about Ka Mala Harris other than 415 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: the gross confidence, the pathological line, the wine mum bravado, 416 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: is the fact that she apparently believed her road propaganda, 417 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: should believe the fake news, the discredited polls that said 418 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: she was going to win, the woman was de Lulu. 419 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 14: I was in a state of shark. 420 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 15: Really, did you think the day before that you were 421 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 15: going to win? Yeah? 422 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: And so when did the probabio penny drop? 423 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 14: When I got a call from my campaign manager that 424 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 14: it looks like we need two hundred thousand more votes 425 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 14: that we can't find, meaning it's just the map, the numbers, 426 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 14: and the thing I kept saying over and over again, 427 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 14: I was in a state of shock. 428 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 4: I was. 429 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 14: I was so inarticulate, but maybe very articulate. What I 430 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 14: kept saying over and over again is my. 431 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 4: God, my God, my God. Really over and I couldn't start. 432 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 3: Joining me Now is Newsweek's senior editor at Large and 433 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: Article three Project Senior Council Josh Hama. Josh Kamala was 434 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: so inarticulate, and she was also very articulate work that out. 435 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: She can't even recount that story in an articulate way, 436 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: but she really thought she was going to win this. 437 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 16: Yeah, Rita, Kamala Harris not being articulate. When have we 438 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 16: heard or seen that before? 439 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 440 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 16: Yeah, we've seen that or heard that literally every single 441 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 16: time Kamala Harris gets behind a microphone or in front 442 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 16: of the camera. I mean, you know, where in the 443 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 16: world would she have gone this notion that she was 444 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 16: going to win the election, win all the swing states. 445 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 16: I don't know. I mean just thinking about myself yours truly. 446 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 16: On my last podcast episode prior to the election, riata 447 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 16: I said, Trump's gonna win all seven swing states, not 448 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 16: the pat my own back too hard. But you know, 449 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 16: it wasn't like that hard to see coming, honestly, because 450 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 16: the trends were getting very, very similar to twenty sixteen. 451 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 16: Back in twenty sixteen, Trump was still trailing in the 452 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 16: real Clear Politics average all the polling averages going into 453 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 16: the election versus Hillary, but he was trending in the 454 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 16: right direction. There and if he kind of looked in 455 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 16: the second third layer polling data, you could see indications 456 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 16: that he was on the prespense of a monumental victory. 457 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 16: So too, is he actually even more obvious, I would say, 458 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 16: in twenty twenty four. So look, this is just a 459 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 16: class example of Kamala Harris, as we've seen from so 460 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 16: many other Democratic politicians here in the US, of just 461 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 16: getting high on their own supply, of getting advice and 462 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 16: guidance from their advisors and their consultants who are deep 463 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 16: in the bowels of blue check Twitter or I guess 464 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 16: these days on blue Sky. 465 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: They're not even on Twitter, but. 466 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 16: They're so far deep in the weeds of their own 467 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 16: echo chamber they don't even know how to find reality anymore. 468 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 16: And that is the current state of the Democratic Party 469 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 16: in nutshell. Kama Harris is just a high profile example 470 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 16: I think of their wolful state. 471 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 3: Well, Kamala remains a contender incredibly for twenty twenty eight. 472 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: And on the other side we've got JD. 473 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 4: Vance. 474 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: He continues to impress the Republican base, and that Republican 475 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: base is now the magabase. Listen to this chant for 476 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: the vice president not. 477 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: Even halfway done. 478 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 8: So here's here's I don't know what you're saying, but 479 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 8: it sounds awesome. 480 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: Let's let's not get ahead of our elves, ladies and gentlemen. 481 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: Are they right, Josh? Is he forty eight? 482 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: Does anyone have a realistic hope of unseating him as 483 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: the next Republican presidential candidate? 484 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 16: Well, as of right now, I think that he is 485 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 16: the extremely early, extremely preliminary front runner. But it's very, very, 486 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 16: very far from a shoe. And I actually was just 487 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 16: looking at some recent polling data for the vice pos 488 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 16: the United States JD. Vans and but the one pole 489 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 16: that I saw from NBC News had his approval rating 490 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 16: currently a thirty nine percent forty five percent disapproved. That's 491 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 16: still a lot of folks who neither approve nor disapprove. 492 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 16: They probably don't have an opinion one way or the other. 493 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 16: But he is, you know, under forty percent on the 494 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 16: approval So I think it's very far from a shoe. 495 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 16: And he certainly is very popular, I think with large 496 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 16: swaths of the MAGA base, But I think it's going 497 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 16: to be a competitive primary. For it's worth the thing 498 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 16: that at least one possibly other current Trump cabinet members 499 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 16: will probably enter the Fray Marco review as the name 500 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 16: that is most often mentioned. I would not be surprised, 501 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 16: frankly to see someone else, maybe even a Pete Hegseath, 502 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 16: a Scott percent. I mean, I would not be surprised 503 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 16: to see some former governors, some current some current Senters's 504 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 16: are wrong, the Sanders, a Ted Cruise. I don't know 505 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 16: what it is, but I don't think the Jay Evans 506 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 16: is going to scape this thing through. I think it's 507 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 16: actually going to be a very competitive primary there. There's 508 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 16: a lot of time left, right, I mean, this administration 509 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 16: has barely started. We're less than one year into this 510 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 16: four year administration there, so the vice president has a 511 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 16: lot of time to leave a lasting impression on the 512 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 16: voters when it comes to domestic policy, when it comes 513 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 16: to foreign policy there, I would like to see him 514 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 16: really kind of hone in on certain areas there he 515 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 16: should pick. I think in my job, he should pick 516 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 16: a couple issues to really make his issue own that 517 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 16: issue and show to the American people how you can 518 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 16: lead the way on one issue as a precursor of 519 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 16: how you can then lead the country more generally on 520 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 16: all the issues. 521 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I'm going to go early. I 522 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: think I'm going to go and put a sizeable bet 523 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: on him, because, to me is the perfect politician and 524 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: thus far as VP hasn't put a foot wrong. But 525 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: as you said, it's early days. We're not even a 526 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: year into this administration. Now we've got to talk about 527 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: something that should be getting a lot more coverage around 528 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: the world, and that's the slaughter of Christians continuing in 529 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: Nigeria and other parts of Africa. The images, the videos 530 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: of the slaughter are harrowing, horrific, to horrific, to put 531 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: to air. President Donald Trump has announced his designating Nigeria 532 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: as a country of Particular concern. 533 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 4: He wrote, Christianity. 534 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: Is facing an existential threat in Nigeria. Thousands of Christians 535 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: are being killed. Radical Islamits are responsible for this mass slaughter. 536 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: I am hereby making Nigeria a country of. 537 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: Particular concern, Josh. 538 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: The President emphasized that action must be taken. 539 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: But what will that action look like? 540 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Well, that means to be seen. 541 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 16: I mean, I think that's very much a question that 542 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 16: American people are currently curious about. Readerfor it's worth personally, 543 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 16: I didn't find the story for many many years. Boko 544 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 16: Haram as one of the world's most brutal Islamic Terrist organizations. 545 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 16: They are just as brutal as Isis, al Qaida, hamas 546 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 16: you name it, and they control large swaths, they have 547 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 16: effective data down day to day territorial control of may 548 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 16: not large swaths of Nigeria, but decent swaths of the country. 549 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 16: And it's a massive, massive problem for the beleaguer and 550 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 16: besieged Christian population in those areas. There have been anti 551 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 16: Christian pagrams, there have been massacres. By the way, Nigeria 552 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 16: is actually far from the only country in Africa that 553 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 16: has this horrific concern. In Egypt, and in Egypt, which 554 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 16: in theory is a major American ally, there have been 555 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 16: all sorts of horrific slaughters of the local native Coptic 556 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 16: Christians over the past five, ten, fifteen years. And then 557 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 16: further down the African continents you have the Congo Rwanda. 558 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 16: There was a horrific slaughter of Christians in the Congo 559 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 16: a few months back. I actually remember talking about it 560 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 16: with Charlie Kirkpeford. He passed away. Terrible, terrible stuff. This 561 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 16: happens all too often frankly on the African continent. Nigeria 562 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 16: is interesting because Nigeria, of all the African countries, actually 563 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 16: has one of the more advanced economies. 564 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: So in theory, this should not be happening. 565 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 16: It should be happening anywhere, to be clear, but it 566 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 16: definitely should not be happening in a country in Africa 567 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 16: that is slightly more purportedly developed like Nigeria. I mean, look, 568 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 16: I don't think that the American people want boots to 569 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 16: go in the ground or anything like that there, but 570 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 16: surely there are at least some leverage tools that we 571 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 16: can do when it comes to diplomacy and trade policy, tariffs, 572 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 16: things like that, trying to make sure that the government 573 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 16: actually gets a monopoly on the use of force over 574 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 16: bocal Haram, the Radical islam As terrorist. 575 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: Organization you mentioned a number of countries there in Sa'dan 576 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: also is just seeing a mass slaughter of innocent people, 577 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: a real genocide. Absolutely horrific images coming out of Saddan 578 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: as well. But on Nigeria, let's hear a cry for 579 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: help from a Christian. 580 00:31:48,520 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 17: In Nigeria, Josh. 581 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: Some of the vision we've seen is among the most horrific. 582 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 3: Savagery You can imagine mothers holding their terrified children, begging 583 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: for mercy, and all of them killed. People buried alive, 584 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: hacked to death, behaded, hanged from trees, just savagery. 585 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 4: That is subhuman. Why is why wasn't every. 586 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: World leader speaking out about this, the UN, the pope 587 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: with this Christian slaughter. Why isn't this top of mind 588 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: for the international community. 589 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 16: Well, it probably should be right, But there are two 590 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 16: things that come to mind. One is that thinking about 591 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 16: foreign policy doctrines more generally and thinking from an American 592 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 16: perspective reader the whole maga America first nationalist foreign policy 593 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 16: doctrine is one that is not based in humanitarian concerns. 594 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 16: It is not the foreign policy of Barack Obama when 595 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 16: he intervened in Libya to top of Molmarkadafi to save 596 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 16: the native population. Is not the foreign policy, of course, 597 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 16: of George W. Bush and the neo conservatives either. It 598 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 16: is a very realist national interest pin pick strike, you know, 599 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 16: go in, bomb the crap out of them, and get. 600 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: The heck out kind of foreign policy. 601 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 16: So humanitarian concerns, while they genuinely tear at the heartstrings, 602 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 16: it is not front and center. I think of how 603 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 16: the Median trumpvot or how the media and Maga Republican 604 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 16: necessarily thinks of foreign policy. But the other reason that 605 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 16: comes to mind, you, especially when we're talking here about 606 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 16: humanitarian concerns, when we're talking about slaughters, accusations, whether the 607 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 16: real or perceive the genisi out there, is that, you know, 608 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 16: as the popular saying on social media goes, no Jews, 609 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 16: no news, I mean, I think I think a lot 610 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 16: of the folks that really should be outraged, that they 611 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 16: should be outraged over the horrific slaughter of Christians by 612 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 16: boklah Ram. I think you're simultaneously too busy. They've been 613 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 16: too busy just accusing Israel committing genocide for the past 614 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 16: two years there. So there's definitely some truth to that 615 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 16: as well. But you know, putting on my proverbial Maga hat, 616 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 16: you know, thinking he has a down from voter myself, 617 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 16: you know, I think that a lot of folks here 618 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 16: just don't think about foreign polity in ultra humanitarian terms. 619 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 16: But I mean, this video is just genuinely just just 620 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 16: just break your heart, and something surely has to be 621 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 16: done in some capacity. 622 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: In some way. 623 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: Well, let's see from a man who survived the Islamists, 624 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 3: he survived Boka Haram, and he had this to say 625 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: about life as a Christian in Nigeria. 626 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: I want to. 627 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 15: Thank an applauch to the United States of American President 628 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 15: for there's a natan a Juris CIPC, because this is 629 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 15: one of the things that we have always wanted, that 630 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 15: Nigeria is the worst place to be as a Cristian, 631 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 15: like the worst place in the whole of the world 632 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 15: to be as a Christian, because we record every deal 633 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 15: with news of Chili's every day with news of massacreing 634 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 15: of Christians is totally in general side that is happening 635 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 15: here in Nigeria. 636 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 3: Josh, As you just explained, Americans don't want to be 637 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: involved in forever foreign wars or without clear objectives, and 638 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: MAGA is about America first. But we are talking here 639 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: about Christians being slaughtered for being Christian. Do you think 640 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: there would be support for some sort of military action 641 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: by the US in this particular case. 642 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 16: I think that Donald Trump could probably sell it if 643 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 16: he were to build the political capital and kind of 644 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 16: sell it as some sort of limited operation. I guess 645 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 16: the obvious question is what kind of limited operation would 646 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 16: that be. I mean, let's think back to the Iran 647 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 16: strikes back in June. That was literally a thirty seven 648 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 16: hour affair. When the B two bombers left Missouri, flew 649 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 16: half around the world to Iran, flew back. The whole 650 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 16: thing took I mean literally less than two days. So 651 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 16: I'm not sure exactly what that would look like here 652 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 16: or Malama little skeptical than anything along those lines could 653 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 16: be done. Here's what I will say I mentioned earlier. 654 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 16: You have the possibility of sanctions, the international diplomacy, tariff policy, 655 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 16: all the tools of diplomatic and economic state round I 656 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 16: think ken and should be applied to the Nigerian government 657 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 16: to get their freaking active together and to send bok 658 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 16: a Aran packing to the pits of hell. Frankly, there 659 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 16: another thing that I think can probably and probably should 660 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 16: be dumb, and this might be controversial actually within kind 661 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 16: of the magabase is you know, a lot of Republicans 662 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 16: are very skeptical when it comes to refugee in asylum policy, 663 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 16: and rightfully so, to be clear, because it has been 664 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 16: systemically incredibly abused for decades and decades. 665 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: Here in the US. 666 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 16: All sorts of fraudulent kind of economic asylum seekers and 667 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 16: so forth there, but there are cases of legitimate asylum. 668 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 16: There absolutely are cases of legitimate refugees. The Trump ininstration 669 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 16: has gone above me beyond to try to make sure that 670 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 16: the white africaners down in South Africa who are literally 671 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 16: being oppressed by the anti white racist government in South Africa. 672 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 16: They make sure that those folks know that they potentially 673 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 16: go home if they want to come to the US. 674 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 16: There So too, I think should Christians literally getting slaughtered 675 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 16: by bok Aaron Nigeira, In my opinion, they should be 676 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 16: absolutely eligible if they are on the cusp of being 677 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 16: slaughtered in my mind to read, I'm putting on my 678 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 16: immigration law hat. That means, that means any definition of 679 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 16: asylum refudu status on the US immigration law, Well, yeah, that. 680 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 3: Is a genuine asylum seeker certainly not an economic migrant. 681 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: And in what we're seeing there. 682 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 3: Now before you go, a left wing podcaster Kyle Kolinsky 683 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: is being denounced online on social media. He's copying it 684 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: for posting a meme that depicted Charlie Kirk's wife Erica 685 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: as and I quote fake grieving widow grifter. And he 686 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 3: is not alone here Josh is among thousands online on 687 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: social media he are attacking Erica for everything from her 688 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: choice of clothing to how she hugs people. It's or 689 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: rather seek where do you think this is coming from, Josh. 690 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 10: This. 691 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 3: Fervor to attack a grieving widow. 692 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 16: Well, I think it's pretty simple. Rider is they hate Charlie. 693 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 16: They heat Charlie Kirk. They heat what he stod for, 694 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 16: or they hate what he built. They hate the organization 695 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 16: that he built, they hate the movement that he led, 696 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 16: They hate everything about him, and you know, by vicarious extension, 697 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 16: they therefore hate his grieving widow as well. By the way, 698 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 16: I mean, Erica Kirk has been thrust into the national spotlight. 699 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 16: She was named the CEO and chairman turned on USA. 700 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 16: I believe it's also a matter of public knowledge that 701 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 16: Erica Kirk's mother is also in very poor health. So 702 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 16: in addition to just losing her the love of her wife, 703 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 16: her husband, and the father of her two young children, 704 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 16: her mother and poor health, I mean, just leave the 705 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 16: freaking woman alone. I mean, my god, I mean, at 706 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 16: some point, like literally what is wrong with you? I mean, 707 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 16: there is such a deranged level of inhumanity and just 708 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 16: lack of compassion for our fellow human beings that I 709 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 16: think has taken hold of so many people on the left. 710 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Rao to hear. 711 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 16: The polls that I see day in and day out 712 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 16: these days are just absolutely discussing the percentage of Democrats 713 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 16: or self described left wingers who support some form of 714 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 16: political violence, who say that's shouting down or physically harming 715 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 16: speakers to prevent them from speaking might be necessary. Whether 716 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 16: it's this with Eric Kirk's disgusting, it is literally literally disgusting, 717 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 16: and it's no accident that you have, therefore people on 718 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 16: the rights who are saying, do I really have enough 719 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 16: in common with these people where they are my fellow countryman? 720 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 16: And not to put too fine a point on it, 721 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 16: when you start to ask those kind of questions, Rita, 722 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 16: you have a citizenry and a polity and there for 723 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 16: a country that is at the brink of collapse. There 724 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 16: So I really hope this is not going any further, 725 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 16: because this touff has the potential to tear the country 726 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 16: apart to a very very dark and bedplace. 727 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thank you so much for your time tonight. 728 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: Thank you DA Still to come the latest on the 729 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: man formerly known as Prince Andrews Donald Trump wise in 730 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 3: Kinsey Schofield has the details. Welcome back joining me now. 731 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: Celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield Kinsey actor Harrison Ford 732 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 3: has lashed out a Donald Trump over his opposition to 733 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 3: the climate change agenda, calling him the greatest. 734 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 4: Criminal in history. Yes, he really said that. 735 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 3: Apparently securing the border and imposing tariffs is worse than Hitler. 736 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: Ford told The Guardian Trump doesn't have any policies. He 737 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: has whims. It scares the sih it out of me. 738 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: The ignorance to hubristalies, the perfidy. Trump knows better, but 739 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 3: he's an instrument of the status quo and is making 740 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 3: money hand over fist while the world goes to hell 741 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: in a handbasket. It's unbelievable. I don't know of a 742 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: greater criminal in history. He's losing ground because everything he 743 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 3: says is a lie. Kiss. He sounds like the Hollywood 744 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: has been needs his loved ones to step in and 745 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 3: offer some support. Tell him to stop saying stupid things 746 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 3: to the Guardian, I mean fancy saying Donald Trump doesn't 747 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: have any policies. Now, you may disagree with those policies. 748 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 3: But he's still only has policies, and that's why the 749 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 3: left hat him, because it's actually implementing those policies and 750 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 3: a lot of what he says seems to be the 751 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 3: mad ravings of the first year art student. 752 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 4: Isn't he too old for this? 753 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 18: Yeah? 754 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: I mean, thankfully for. 755 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 18: The Guardian is like trumped arrangement syndrome HQ, so like 756 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 18: he found his target audience. 757 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: But to say that. 758 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 18: Trump's polling like the highest that I've ever seen him 759 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 18: poll since I've monitored this. First of all, I don't 760 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 18: trust grown men that pierce thearriers. They've already proven that 761 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 18: their judgment is questionable. Every time I see the holes 762 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 18: in Harrison Ford's ears, my body literally rejects it. But 763 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 18: the greatest criminal industry open a history book, Harrison Ford. 764 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 18: Tyrants usually don't waste their time foreing hostages or at 765 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 18: least trying to create peace. 766 00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 4: That's it. 767 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: We've got eight or nine piece stills in his second term. 768 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: Greatest criminal in history. I mean, really, Harrison Ford, what 769 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: an absolute idiotic buffoon you are. But let's go to 770 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 3: another celebrity, Nicki Minaj. She's getting intense backlash from the 771 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 3: left because she supported Donald Trump's decision to list Nigeria 772 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 3: as a country of particular concern over Islamist attacks against Christians. 773 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 3: Nicki minaj wrote on x this made me feel a 774 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 3: deep sense of gratitude. We leave in a country where 775 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 3: we can freely worship God. No group should ever be 776 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 3: persecuted for practicing their religion. Thank you to the President 777 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 3: and his team for taking this seriously. God bless every 778 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: persecuted Christian. Let's remember to lift them up in prayer. 779 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 4: I mean, who could. 780 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 3: Possibly read that and be upset? Aban how utterly deranged 781 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 3: with hate? Trentfle Donald Trump, must you be that you 782 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 3: can't acknowledge the fact that there are women and children 783 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 3: being slaughtered just because they're Christian. That is something that 784 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 3: deserves the US President's attention. And finally we've got a 785 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: world leader who's taking note of this horrible, horrible campaign 786 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 3: that's happening in Nigeria. 787 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 18: Well, thankfully, Nicki Minaje is in a fight with someone 788 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 18: new every week, so she can hold her own. The 789 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 18: reaction to her message will make you question humanity if 790 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 18: you sit back and read some of those reactions to 791 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 18: the tweets, Like you said, imagine attacking someone viciously for 792 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 18: applauding protecting Christianity, and they're taking personal swipes at her 793 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 18: and blaming her for things that are just, you know, 794 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 18: totally unrelated to what she's trying to say. That we 795 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 18: should be proud of the country that and the president 796 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 18: we have based on our freedom to worship. So I 797 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 18: can't tell you anything other than the fact that I'm 798 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 18: so thoroughly disappointed in humanity, and I wish that they 799 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 18: would take a moment to log off the internet and 800 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 18: just do some self reflection. 801 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 3: You know what. It's borderline demonic when you read some 802 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 3: of those comments, because these comments are being posted on 803 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 3: social media, which is the same platform where you can 804 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: see the horrific torture and slaughter of innocent people, and 805 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 3: they disregard that and decide to attack people for acknowledging 806 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 3: what's happening. Now, let's talk about the Royals. The UK 807 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 3: government has announced it will move to strip the man 808 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 3: formerly known as Prince Andrew of his honorary title of 809 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 3: Vice Admiral that was his last remaining military rank. 810 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 4: Andrew was stripped of his other. 811 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 3: Honorary military titles by his mother, the late Queen Liz. 812 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 3: That was back in twenty two. And importantly, Kinzie, he's 813 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 3: no longer a. 814 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 4: Prince, that's true. 815 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 18: I mean, what a whirlwind week that was last week 816 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 18: in London too. I was in bed and everybody was like, 817 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 18: you got to get out of bed, you got to 818 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 18: get you know, run. 819 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 4: Across the street. 820 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 18: Prince Sandrew just lost his titles. I feel like I 821 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 18: thought it would be I thought it would come inevitably, 822 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 18: but I thought it was going to be much more 823 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 18: difficult than this. And to be fair, the Palace made 824 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 18: it sound like there were going to be hoops that 825 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 18: they were going to have to jump through, and I mean, 826 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 18: the reality is, we see how easy it's been for 827 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 18: them to just strip him of all of these titles 828 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 18: and all of these honors. Harry and Meghan should be 829 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 18: shaking in their boots now that we've seen how easy 830 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 18: it can be. But it's interesting because I've seen a 831 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 18: series of different reports about who ultimately was the one 832 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 18: that put the hammer down. Was it Queen Camilla, was 833 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 18: it Catherine the Princess of Wales, and articles it's Prince 834 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 18: William because he did not want to inherit the Andrew 835 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 18: problem at the end of the day, everyone wanted it done. 836 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 18: I wanted this to be over with, and it was 837 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 18: King Charles. He's the boss. No one else made that 838 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 18: decision and couldn't for him. 839 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 3: Now the President has weighed in on this issue. 840 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 4: Let's hear from Donald Trump. 841 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: I feel very badly. I mean, it's a terrible thing 842 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: that happened to the family. 843 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 7: That's been a tragic situation, and. 844 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 12: It's bad. 845 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel badly for the family. 846 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 3: There you go, Kinzia, The President feels badly for the family. 847 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 3: But they've got a bit more to worry about, because 848 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 3: what's Sarah Ferguson going to do next. Royal expert Amanda 849 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 3: Platel has said that Andrew Mountbatton wins. 850 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 4: Us ex wife just sounds weird. 851 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 3: Just call him that, but that's what the man formerly 852 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 3: known as Prince Andrew's called now thou, suggesting that Fergie 853 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 3: could turn to tell Alls as part of her next phase. 854 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 3: He wrote a multi million pound Fergie Netflix show about 855 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 3: the horrid Royals could make Harry and Meghan's devastating six 856 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 3: part series the highest rated show for the streamer in 857 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. Look Like I Walk in the Park 858 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 3: on a sunny day. 859 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 4: Kinsey, would Fergie do that? Do you think she has 860 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 4: got it. 861 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 3: In her to just air all her dirty laundry? 862 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 18: I mean, look at the parallels between Fergie and Meghan 863 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 18: Markle and throughout Fergie's post royal life. She's done everything 864 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 18: that Megan Mirkle has crammed into the last five years. 865 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: She's shameless. 866 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 18: Fergie's worked with Oprah Winfrey on multiple productions, including reality 867 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 18: TV shows and setdowns. Fergie's written over thirty books. Some 868 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 18: were lingered in the Tell All world talking to us 869 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 18: about how she borrowed Princess Diana's shoes and they gave 870 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 18: her work. So She's willing to go in the gutter 871 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 18: if need be. She's been a podcaster in the past. 872 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 18: She tried to bring down the monarchy with Princess Diana 873 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 18: when they both planned to leave their husbands at the 874 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 18: same time together in the nineties and Diana backed out. 875 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 18: She knows where their bodies are buried, and there will 876 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 18: always be more secrets to tell when Fergie's involved. The 877 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 18: only thing stopping her is her daughter's royal futures. Watch 878 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 18: this space to see how much she's willing to jeopardize that. 879 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: Oh that could be actually fascinating, because really, Harry and 880 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 3: Meghan didn't have much to tell. It was mainly manufactured 881 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 3: outrage about supposed racist comments that weren't racist. But like 882 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: you said, Fergie has got a bit more history and 883 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 3: she's got a lot more dirt that she could be 884 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 3: releasing now, Meghan markl talking about her. She's come under 885 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 3: fire once again after she posted a grady video to 886 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 3: Instagram of her and a friend along with a very 887 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 3: disinterested looking Harry, celebrating the last Angelus Dodges World Series win. 888 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 3: Fans have labeled the video staged and so fake and 889 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 3: cringe Kinsey. If that's stage, then Harry has given up 890 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 3: because he gave nothing there. 891 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 18: Harry hates the paparazzi and he married one. I mean 892 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 18: to be this is fake. Meghan ran around with the 893 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 18: competing team's caps on while she lived her entire time 894 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 18: she lived in Canada. She wore the other team's hat, 895 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 18: so she can't even show loyalty to a sports team. 896 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 18: But my favorite online comment was imagine a former royal 897 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 18: prince Harry being reduced to being an unpaid extra in 898 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 18: his wife's diluted fantasy world. 899 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's sad. It's so sad. 900 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 4: It's sad because it's true. 901 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 3: Kinsey, thank you so much for your time, and that's 902 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 3: all the time we have. Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is 903 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 3: up next