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Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy End With with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's an update on the Brooklyn Beckham and the Beckham

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Speaker 1: family sitution.

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Speaker 2: I shall tell you what's in the headlines, and that's

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Speaker 2: the Beckham's at the moment. Yes, you read out the

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Speaker 2: statement yesterday, this was unbelievable, Brooklyn claiming, well, basically, I

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Speaker 2: would dare say that a majority of it was the

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Speaker 2: direction was towards his mother, Victoria. He claims that his

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Speaker 2: wife has been constantly disrespected by the family. My mum

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Speaker 2: repeatedly invited women from my past into our lives in

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Speaker 2: ways that were clearly intended to make us both feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn claims of Victoria hijacked his first dance at with

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Speaker 2: his wife at the wedding in front of five hundred guests,

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Speaker 2: also canceled Nichola's dress at the eleventh hour despite how

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Speaker 2: excited she was. So there was a lot of all

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Speaker 2: these claims that are going on. Is the relationship with

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Speaker 2: his mum over well.

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Speaker 1: The other thing in the statement too, which was pretty

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Speaker 1: heavy wording, was when he said I'm not looking to

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Speaker 1: reconcile with my family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very that's full on isn't it clear?

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Speaker 3: And I mean, look, I think it happens in a

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Speaker 3: lot of families where they say, well, we'll see you.

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Speaker 3: You're invited to come to family lunch, but the partner

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Speaker 3: is not invited.

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Speaker 1: It's really sad.

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Speaker 2: It is sad. But there's always I mean, there's redemption

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Speaker 2: can be I mean, and when when everybody settles down

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Speaker 2: it takes a deep breath. I think there can be

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Speaker 2: a moment where you can get back together. But I'd

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Speaker 2: love to hear from people. Thirteen twenty fourteen, what did

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Speaker 2: your mom do? Did your mum do something in your life?

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Speaker 2: And then we decide whether you still have a relationship

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Speaker 2: with your mum, because by the sounds of it, his relationship,

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Speaker 2: his relationship with his mother is over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think so at the moment, I would

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Speaker 3: imagine if you're Victoria Beckham, I mean, there wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: been no warning. I'm guessing of the social media. Someone

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Speaker 3: would have called them, or someone seen it and flicked

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Speaker 3: it through. I mean, to be fly on the wall,

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Speaker 3: like on those phone calls and in that room when

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Speaker 3: all of this was unfolding. And if she's anything like

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Speaker 3: she's being made out to be, it wouldn't have been

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Speaker 3: a pretty scene, especially if brand is the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Did you see on the red cart that the vision

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Speaker 2: of the red carpet for David Beckham's documentary on Netflix,

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Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, Victoria just turned her back, didn't

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Speaker 2: look at her son or Nicola at all. It was

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Speaker 2: like now when you look back at it. At the time,

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Speaker 2: no one really picked it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was sad too because the son or

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn almost sort of taps Victoria on the back to

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Speaker 1: say I'm here included and doesn't break pose like so

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Speaker 1: focused on her image and the camera without acknowledging the family.

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Speaker 2: It was It's weird. There's only one person, there's one

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Speaker 2: mediator here that can fix this, and that's David. David's

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Speaker 2: currently in Switzerland and you can only imagine the PEPs.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is he walked out of his hotel quickly.

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Speaker 2: He's one pep just straight into him straight away.

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Speaker 4: David, you have a message for Brooklyn this morning, David,

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Speaker 4: you disappointed family businesses being aired in public.

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Speaker 2: Sees can't go anywhere. But he's actually there for UNISEF

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Speaker 2: at the moment, and he was asked about social media

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Speaker 2: and kids This is after Brooklyn's statement, so this was yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and this is what he had to say.

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Speaker 4: I've always spoke about, you know, social media and the

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Speaker 4: power of social media, you know, for the good and

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Speaker 4: for the bad. You know. With the bad, We've talked

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Speaker 4: about with what kids can access these days, and it

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Speaker 4: can be it can be dangerous. But what I've found personally,

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Speaker 4: you know, especially with my kids as well, use it

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Speaker 4: for the right reasons. You know. I've been able to

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Speaker 4: use my platform and my following, you know, for UNSEF

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Speaker 4: and it's been the biggest tour to make people aware

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Speaker 4: of what's going on around the world for children, and

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Speaker 4: I've tried to do the same. I've tried to do

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Speaker 4: this saying with my children to educate them. They make mistakes.

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Speaker 4: Children are allowed to make mistakes. That's how they learn.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I tried to teach my kids. But

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Speaker 4: you know, you have to sometimes let them make those

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Speaker 4: mistakes as well.

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Speaker 1: He's not a child, he's a married man.

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Speaker 3: He is, Yeah, he is.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's so tricky.

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Speaker 3: Families are very tricky.

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Speaker 1: When the rapporter yells out, do you have a message

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Speaker 1: for your son? Brooklyn? Is your is your not your

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Speaker 1: first reaction to say I love my son, are you?

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Speaker 2: But you wouldn't say that. You just ignore them. They

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Speaker 2: want a headline, they want a headline with.

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Speaker 3: But that is a good headline if you're going to get.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to get a headline, and you just

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Speaker 3: say one thing, because I feel when I heard Beckham's

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Speaker 3: Beckham talking about social media, which was not necessarily about Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: But that's what we're going to say, is that I

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Speaker 3: thought of him and Nikola listening to that state and

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Speaker 3: feeling almost patronized that Dad's saying this is a.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a mistake.

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Speaker 3: He's young, he will work this out, and hopefully they will.

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Speaker 3: But let's let's think about the upbringing that he has

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Speaker 3: had and not being able to kind of carve his

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Speaker 3: own identity because he's under the banner of the Beckhams.

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Speaker 3: That's hard enough, let alone being in the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: This is the This is the tough one though, I mean,

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Speaker 2: would you burn? I mean, let's just say, okay, let's

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Speaker 2: put you in this situation, Kate, how that rights your wedding,

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Speaker 2: your Sheibel town. It's a beautiful, beautiful day and Kosha

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Speaker 2: guy Park, Yeah, spot what a magnificent day. I had

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Speaker 2: a little bit of rain, but now the sun's come out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're heading off to the catho.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate, Richie's got Mark Antony to perform at the wedding.

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. And Mark Antony gets up and goes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: now it's time to get the most gorgeous woman in

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Speaker 2: the room up to dance with the with the groom.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, Heather Richie gets suck

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Speaker 2: and starts doing a pretty seductive dance with your husband, Heather,

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Speaker 2: would you forgive Heather? I mean it'd be it's a

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Speaker 2: great fodder for woman's day, But would you ever forgive

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Speaker 2: Heather Ritchie for doing that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, mum can bust a move though, so you

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Speaker 3: know it's cheaper than paying the entertainment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brooklyn did describe the dances on.

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Speaker 3: And with I know, and the wording was just the

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Speaker 3: social posts I was watching last night of people reading

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Speaker 3: the statement going oh my goodness, but look, moms do

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Speaker 3: mums love their sons?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: But there is a line. There's a line where you

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Speaker 3: have to accept, whether it's your child or not, that

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Speaker 3: your job as a parent is to upskill the little person.

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Speaker 3: You've had to get them ready to head off into

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Speaker 3: the world, and I think for some that it's very

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Speaker 3: difficult to find and the moment where they need to

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Speaker 3: be let they need to be let go and there

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Speaker 3: is going to be another woman or another partner in

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Speaker 3: this person's life. But it can get a bit.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it come down to the question being is my

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Speaker 1: son happy?

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Speaker 3: I don't think no. I don't think it's about I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's that. I don't think some people can

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Speaker 3: see that because I think when you see your children,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not there yet, but if you see your

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Speaker 3: children making choices that are not part of the plan

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Speaker 3: that you had for them, whether it's a partner or

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Speaker 3: a john step in, then it's like, well, when do

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Speaker 3: you stop being a parent?

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 1: I suppose a friend of ours had a situation like

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Speaker 1: this and the dad said to the daughter, based on

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Speaker 1: who she was marrying, the dad said, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's going to bring out the best in you. They

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Speaker 1: were the words he chose, and she went on to

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Speaker 1: marry him and she said, Dad, that's my decesion, and

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Speaker 1: he had to accept it because that's his daughter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that involves that yeah is tricky.

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Speaker 2: Going, Oh my goodness, anyone see the video yesterday they

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Speaker 2: said this is Victoria Beckham dancing at the wedding and

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Speaker 2: it was Reagan at the Olympics.

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