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Speaker 1: Five double a nice with Matthew Pantellis for my guests

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Speaker 1: this evening, I want to read this text from Sandy,

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Speaker 1: who says I want to give a big shout out

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Speaker 1: and remind people. Tomorrow, November fourteen is World Diabetes Date.

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Speaker 1: It's about raising awareness of diabetes and about living well

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Speaker 1: with diabetes. A date commemorates the birthdays of Frederick Banting,

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Speaker 1: one of the co discoverers of insulin. I work at

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Speaker 1: the Diabetes Center at Lyle Mack. I see every day

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Speaker 1: the physical and mental impact it has on people living

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Speaker 1: with his chronic condition. Our whole team are passionate and

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Speaker 1: committed to reducing the impact diabetes has on our community

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Speaker 1: and improving people's quality of life. So, as today's World

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Speaker 1: Kindness Day, please be kind to people with diabetes. They

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Speaker 1: do it tough. Sandy, be good on your Sandy, Thank

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Speaker 1: you on that. That's a good intro from the Hush Foundation,

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Speaker 1: the founder for World Kindness Days, Professor Katherine Krock, who

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Speaker 1: joins me now, Catherine, good.

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Speaker 2: Evening, good evening, Nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Likewise, so World Kindness Day today, obviously, I mean it

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Speaker 1: speaks for itself, be kind to others, but where did

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Speaker 1: the Hush Foundation originate as a result of that.

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Speaker 2: Look, the Hush Foundation actually started twenty five years ago

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Speaker 2: out of my work as a doctor at the Children's

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Speaker 2: Hospital in Melbourne, where I look after children with leukemia

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Speaker 2: and I was really struggling as a junior doctor, finding

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Speaker 2: the work really hard and worried about the patients and

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Speaker 2: families and how they were experiencing all their treatments and

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Speaker 2: things they were going through. And the Hush Foundation actually

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Speaker 2: started by bringing composers and musicians into hospitals to try

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Speaker 2: and make the environment a little bit more calm and

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Speaker 2: RESTful and reduce people's anxieties.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and it's obviously taken off.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely took off. We've now worked with one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy Australian composers and we've done twenty five albums

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Speaker 2: of new Australian music because the composers have been immersed

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Speaker 2: in a healthcare experience and then written music especially out

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Speaker 2: of that experience. So very special project and the generosity

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Speaker 2: and the skill of the musicians who are trying to

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Speaker 2: help other people in need has just been an extraordinary kindness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Gee, that's good. So world kindness Day. Then

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Speaker 1: from your aspect, it's people in the health system, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're aware because you're based into state.

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Speaker 1: I think we have an ad running currently now state

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Speaker 1: government ad where it's the scenario is somebody yelling at

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Speaker 1: a nurse for taking too long to be seen in

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Speaker 1: the health system, for this person to be seen and

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Speaker 1: you know, banging fists on walls and all the rest,

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Speaker 1: and it cuts to the chase of World Kindness Day.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely does. It's something that I'm very con learned

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Speaker 2: about that we need to be treating everybody with kindness,

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Speaker 2: our patients and families, but also the staffs need to

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Speaker 2: be treated with kindness. And I think sometimes the public

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Speaker 2: don't realize if you're rude to your health professional, they're

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Speaker 2: actually less on the ball and the care that you're

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Speaker 2: going to get or your loved one is going to

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Speaker 2: get actually is worse because they can't concentrate as well

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Speaker 2: when they've been shouted out or they feel that they're

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Speaker 2: under threat. So kindness goes both ways, and I think

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Speaker 2: if we're thinking about a kind health system, it needs

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Speaker 2: to be one that is kind to the people working

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Speaker 2: in it and kind to the people receiving the care

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Speaker 2: that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll all flourish absolutely, Yeah, for sure. But kindness

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Speaker 1: seems to be increasingly lacking, does it not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, years ago you'd see kids standing for older

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Speaker 1: people on public transport just to use an exact and

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Speaker 1: you know that is good manners, but I suppose also

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Speaker 1: kind I just wonder how often that happens these days.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think it has dropped off, but we at

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Speaker 2: the Hush Foundation have found over the last few years,

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Speaker 2: really since COVID, people have picked up on the word

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Speaker 2: kindness and they're thinking about how important it is and

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Speaker 2: how it can help to keep this all more safe.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of positivity and sometimes

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Speaker 2: what we need to do is start to notice those

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Speaker 2: acts of kindness. So be really mindful of kindness that's

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Speaker 2: around you and call it out. Instead of calling out

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Speaker 2: only bad things, we can call out, hey, that was

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Speaker 2: awesome what you did, you know, standing up for that

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Speaker 2: elderly person on the tram, And that young person is

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Speaker 2: going to do it again, and the young people around

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Speaker 2: up on it and go Okay, we can do more.

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Speaker 1: Of Yeah, yeah, I think that's it. Calling it out

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Speaker 1: in a positive way is one way of encouraging it.

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Speaker 1: And obviously it feeds on, doesn't it, And people tell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I would like to think that our

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Speaker 2: Gathering of Kindness movement goes everywhere, not just healthcare, but

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Speaker 2: into kind schools and kind families, kind law places, kind work,

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Speaker 2: whatever work you're doing, because we know that it gets

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Speaker 2: the absolute best out of the people that you interact with,

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Speaker 2: and it also keeps everyone safe.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. So all right, do you have a website? I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that Hush Foundation probably does, and you've got some

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Speaker 2: We've got it all on Hush dot org dot au.

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Speaker 2: People can still join our online Gathering of Kindness, which

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Speaker 2: is happening this week, and then you can even watch

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Speaker 2: the discussions that we're having about kindness right throughout the

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Speaker 2: next twelve months. Adam's got Now, we've got a Kindness

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Speaker 2: in Action program. So if people are in a workplace

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Speaker 2: and they go, well, that's all very well, how do

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Speaker 2: we do it? We've got a toolkit for how you

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Speaker 2: can do it, and what are some of the small

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Speaker 2: acts that can get this started.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic, all right, So, yes, you can go to that website.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it now. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of information there and impacts around the world. So it's

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Speaker 1: you've got what little Hush branches that have sprouted us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and people are using our music all around

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Speaker 2: the world. They're using it in healthcare, but they're using

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Speaker 2: it in all sorts of other settings as well.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful. All right. Isn't it almost sad that we need

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Speaker 1: a website We need to be reminded to be kind.

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Speaker 2: Look, I guess so, but we always focus on the

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Speaker 2: positive and we think, how lucky are we to have

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Speaker 2: these amazing resources to help other people.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic, Catherine, thank you for your time this evening on

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Speaker 1: World Kindness Day. I really appreciate the time. Good luck

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Speaker 1: with the work you do.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Matthew, lovely talking.

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Speaker 1: To you likewise. Professor Katherine Krock, founder of the Hush Foundation,