Speaker 1: On scars Ostrodio. This is the Reader Panalty Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming
Speaker 2: up tonight, Queensland Premier Stephen Miles blames reckless Queensland drivers
Speaker 2: for the state's hospital crisis. Peter Dutton announces these seven Sides,
Speaker 2: where the Coalition is proposing to establish nuclear reactors. The
Speaker 2: always insightful Ralph Scholhammer joins me to discuss Europe's swing
Speaker 2: to the right and why Italy's Georgia Maloney has emerged
Speaker 2: as the region's strongest leader.
Speaker 3: Mi Horowitz will be here to discuss Lefty's.
Speaker 2: Losing it, including the usual unhinged scare mongering about climate
Speaker 2: collapse from MSNBC, the.
Speaker 4: Lucrative politics of climate collapse, and the greed that is
Speaker 4: literally letting our country burn.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Gary,
Speaker 2: a top medical boss in Jeansland, has rubbish claims from
Speaker 2: Premier Stephen Miles that careless drivers were choking up hospitals
Speaker 2: and putting pressure on healthcare. Miles on Saturday claim the
Speaker 2: Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital was forced to cancel surgeries
Speaker 2: due to a surge in road related trauma cases thanks
Speaker 2: to careless Queensland drivers.
Speaker 3: That's a new one from Smiley. I've got to say that.
Speaker 2: But whether it's careless drivers or whether it's a respiratory issue,
Speaker 2: whatever the causes, surely you can't be blaming the patients.
Speaker 2: The fact is Labour's been in power up there for
Speaker 2: around the decade and if the Queensland health system is
Speaker 2: in trouble, it's on the Labor government.
Speaker 1: Well, let's face it, Rita.
Speaker 5: Just like in Yes, Minister, the most efficient hospital in
Speaker 5: Queensland is the one with no patients. But look, it's
Speaker 5: pretty bad look from Stephen Miles, given that we've had
Speaker 5: some horrific, horrific acts and so on some of our
Speaker 5: rubbish Queensland roads, particularly in regional Queensland. In the last week,
Speaker 5: there's been about ten people die. Families have been ruined
Speaker 5: off the back of this, So for him to now
Speaker 5: throw that sort of stuff into the mix of it
Speaker 5: is just horrendous. The simple point here is there's more
Speaker 5: people in the Queensland Health Department in inner city buildings
Speaker 5: carrying clipboards and coming up with new forms, fees and
Speaker 5: directions and plans for inspections than there are people giving
Speaker 5: that patient caregiver kind of task. And so we just
Speaker 5: need more nurses, we need more doctors. We need to
Speaker 5: be deliberately hiring people to do that. We need people
Speaker 5: who are in the maintenance teams at our hospitals. We
Speaker 5: don't need as many bureaucrats as we've currently gotten. This
Speaker 5: bloke's a former health minister, and our health departments are choking,
Speaker 5: just like they are all around Australia. And people vote
Speaker 5: Labor because I actually think they're good on things like
Speaker 5: public health. There mob a completely rubbish because what they
Speaker 5: do is they hire a whole battalion of bureaucrats and
Speaker 5: then the left over money trickles down to where the
Speaker 5: patient needs the help. That's your problem. That is the problem,
Speaker 5: full stop. And he is just kidding himself. And I
Speaker 5: think it's disgusting. Given the number of deaths that have
Speaker 5: been on Queensland roads over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 5: it's disgusting he should bring such things into the mix.
Speaker 2: Well, the situation is pretty grim in Victoria as well.
Speaker 2: We've got a paramedic crisis down here and parents of
Speaker 2: a four year old child who wasn't breathing were forced
Speaker 2: to drive themselves drive this child to a hospital after
Speaker 2: being told the nearest ambulance was fifty kilometers away. This
Speaker 2: wasn't Gary in some regional, far flung area. It happened
Speaker 2: in metropolitan Melbourne in the early hours of Monday morning.
Speaker 3: When they called.
Speaker 2: A fleet, availability across the entire ambulance network in Melbourne
Speaker 2: had dropped to just one percent, prompting a code. I mean,
Speaker 2: just this a nightmare for a parent to have a
Speaker 2: child who is not breathing and you call an ambulance
Speaker 2: in a first world country and they're not going to
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 3: They're not going to be there because they're fifty kilometers away.
Speaker 2: They're not going to get there in time, and you've
Speaker 2: got to take that child into hospital yourself.
Speaker 3: It's just not good enough. Given the amount of money.
Speaker 2: We have devoted to this sector, there is so much mismanagement.
Speaker 3: Gary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and thousands of healthcare professionals have been purged
Speaker 5: out of our state health systems as a result of
Speaker 5: the overreach during the COVID crisis, the crisis that we
Speaker 5: now know more manufactured by government than in reality. Thousands
Speaker 5: of people put purged out of the system, and people
Speaker 5: don't trust the system anymore. Look, and it's bad enough
Speaker 5: that I couldn't imagine the dreadful stress of a parent
Speaker 5: worried about a child. But for those of us who've
Speaker 5: got elderly family members, parents and so forth, I can
Speaker 5: attest to a fifteen hour wait to get an ambulance
Speaker 5: in the middle of suburban brisb and not so long ago,
Speaker 5: fifteen hours, fifteen hours reader, and they just kept bringing saying, oh,
Speaker 5: was he okay? Is he's still alive? It's like this
Speaker 5: just is not the way it should work. The basics
Speaker 5: are not being done, but the bureaucracy is being built.
Speaker 5: The burgeoning bureaucracy is what's soaking up all of the
Speaker 5: tax dollars that are going into things like health.
Speaker 2: And we've got down here in Victoria paramedics graduating and
Speaker 2: not finding jobs locally, having to go elsewhere to get
Speaker 2: jobs ridiculous. And then we've got ridiculous because we've got
Speaker 2: the cfm AU getting a twenty.
Speaker 3: Percent pay deal increasy.
Speaker 2: You've got people holding up stop signs earning two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand plus, and yet the paramedics who earn a fraction
Speaker 2: of that aren't even getting the jobs.
Speaker 3: It is madness. It needs to change.
Speaker 2: But when you don't have a competent opposition, the people
Speaker 2: really don't have much of a choice. Now, the Coalition
Speaker 2: federally is planning to build a two nuclear power plan
Speaker 2: in regional Queensland. Tot Apedadutton announced the locations for all
Speaker 2: seven sites where the Coalition is proposing to establish nuclear
Speaker 2: reactors and he attacked Anthony Alberize's lack of vision and
Speaker 2: the absurdity of the renewable only policy.
Speaker 6: The Prime Minister has no vision for our country because
Speaker 6: he can't manage the government day to day. We've done
Speaker 6: an enormous amount of work. I want to pay tribute
Speaker 6: to Ted O'Brien. We've looked at the international experience. We've
Speaker 6: looked at why Australians are paying the highest electricity prices
Speaker 6: in the world. We've looked at the expert advice from
Speaker 6: the regulator who's now telling us that under Labour's renewables
Speaker 6: only policy there is a greater likelihood of blackouts and brownouts.
Speaker 6: We know that the government has a renewables only policy
Speaker 6: which is just not fit for purpose. No other country
Speaker 6: in the world can keep the lights on twenty four
Speaker 6: to seven with the renewables only policy.
Speaker 2: But Gary, despite the majority of Australians now supporting nuclear
Speaker 2: policies inspired this scam mongering we're seeing because there is
Speaker 2: so much scam mongering from the media and all those.
Speaker 3: Sure rent seekers.
Speaker 2: The Queensland opposition leader is still insisting he's not going
Speaker 2: to support repealing these states nuclear bad.
Speaker 3: How is he determined to snatch.
Speaker 2: Defeat from the jaws of victory.
Speaker 3: What is happening up there?
Speaker 1: Well, times shall tell.
Speaker 5: And of course in a couple of weeks time there's
Speaker 5: a state conference of the Liberal National Party, so I
Speaker 5: guess there'll be a few comments about all of that.
Speaker 5: But look, in the end, Peter Duarton is showing the
Speaker 5: sort of leadership Australia desperately needs.
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton's putting forward a plan that says we.
Speaker 5: Don't need twenty eight thousand kilometers of duplication when it
Speaker 5: comes to all those high energy towers that.
Speaker 1: Dot across the countryside.
Speaker 5: Peter Duarton is saying that instead of taking up hundreds
Speaker 5: of thousands of hectares of land to put solar panels
Speaker 5: on top of good agricultural land, all we need is
Speaker 5: a couple of acres of land to build a nuclear
Speaker 5: power station next to an exist in culfide power station.
Speaker 5: He's also putting, in the words of David little Proud,
Speaker 5: the biggest single investment into the South burn at the
Speaker 5: area around king Arroy. That's more than just peanuts, king Roy.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, the biggest single investment ever announced
Speaker 5: into the south Burnet has been announced as part of
Speaker 5: this whole plan. So this is about Some people don't
Speaker 5: understand it. They'll catch up to it, but it's about cheap,
Speaker 5: reliable base load power that's going to grow jobs. But
Speaker 5: I think the most telling part about what Dutton did
Speaker 5: today is he's not so much worried about his policy
Speaker 5: for the next election. He's thinking about the next generation
Speaker 5: and the generation after that and the one after that.
Speaker 5: He's talking eighty to one hundred years of certainty when
Speaker 5: it comes to our power prices and our reliability of
Speaker 5: our electricity. And frankly, given everything that's happening in the world,
Speaker 5: this is a national security task and it's not unreasonable
Speaker 5: that provincial leaders people in states take a little while
Speaker 5: to understand the broader world. Dutton's showing them the way.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they'll be on board. Don't you worry about.
Speaker 2: That you are being very generous and gentle with the
Speaker 2: Queensland opposition leader. I think it's absolutely disgraceful and weak
Speaker 2: for him not to just be on the same page
Speaker 2: as the federal Party and have a clear understanding of
Speaker 2: where this country is headed. And it's not any better
Speaker 2: down here in Victoria because the opposition leader here, John Pursuto,
Speaker 2: also weak, directionless and really isn't clear on where he
Speaker 2: stands in this area. Now tell you, Gary, I am
Speaker 2: liking the sound of Quantus under this new regime We've
Speaker 2: had the incoming chairman, John Mullen say corporates should not
Speaker 2: get involved in political agendas. The current chair Goydas, backed
Speaker 2: Alan Joyce's political activism all the way and talking about
Speaker 2: the form of CEO. Alan Joyce he may not receive
Speaker 2: his sixteen million dollar bonus, as the airline brings in
Speaker 2: a high profile consultancy chief to help decide whether a
Speaker 2: series of blunders mean this big bonus will be void.
Speaker 2: If it is granted, it means that Alan Joyce would
Speaker 2: have earned one hundred and seventy million dollars from Quantas
Speaker 2: over fifteen years. This could be a new Quantus that
Speaker 2: we are we see emerging.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: Look, I am a unabas big fan of Quotas. I
Speaker 5: want Quotas to be the success it's been for one
Speaker 5: hundred years, safe airline, safest airline in the world and
Speaker 5: its actually the second oldest continuous airline in the world,
Speaker 5: and for good reason. And Alan Joyce has gone. Now, look,
Speaker 5: the short, medium, long term incentives that are built in
Speaker 5: the corporate Australia means that if you perform well, you'll
Speaker 5: get something after you've gone. Let's just see what this
Speaker 5: management consultant comes up with. But I think there's plenty
Speaker 5: of grief that Joyce has rightly got to be put
Speaker 5: through because frankly, as someone who buys a ticket on
Speaker 5: an aeroplane, I want to make sure that not much
Speaker 5: of my money is going to pay for bonuses to
Speaker 5: a bloke who actually caused more grief for a lot
Speaker 5: of people, a lot of people who lost jobs, a
Speaker 5: lot of people who were dismayed by the fact that
Speaker 5: ghost flights existed. All these things they're all on the table,
Speaker 5: and rightly so, so well done to mister Mullins. This
Speaker 5: is a new quantus and I hope it's an even
Speaker 5: better quantus because it's reputation solid, and if the reputation
Speaker 5: has been in the slightest bit damaged or tarnish, now's
Speaker 5: their opportunity to say so and deal with it Rita.
Speaker 1: So we'll watch with interest.
Speaker 3: And as someone who flies Quantus regularly, I would like
Speaker 3: to stop.
Speaker 2: Being welcomed to my own country and have all these
Speaker 2: exactly acknowledgment of country announcements that they.
Speaker 3: I didn't sign up for. That Just get me there
Speaker 3: on time, give me a snack, and we're all happy.
Speaker 2: Take on now, absolutely, let's talk about this Robert Irwin
Speaker 2: Pauline hansoon clash. Neither one is backing down after the
Speaker 2: TV star threatened legal action after being featured in the
Speaker 2: latest satirical cartoon series Please Explain, produced by the One
Speaker 2: Nation team.
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at it.
Speaker 7: Oh, no blue racial division.
Speaker 8: But don't worry about that, because we've got some of
Speaker 8: the funnest theme parks right here in the state of
Speaker 8: Queen's Land.
Speaker 7: Check this here, Oh, this must be the line for
Speaker 7: Warner Brothers movie. Will Now, this is a rental inspection
Speaker 7: for a one veteran Rockhampton More mistake Blue, Wait you
Speaker 7: see the great barrier reef all this beautiful, pristine rainforest
Speaker 7: here in Columbon.
Speaker 9: You know, some people think they're yeshores.
Speaker 7: But I think they're pretty cool. I Blue, Oh, crok,
Speaker 7: Look over there, that's a castle. Wearies and a wedge
Speaker 7: told Eagle, Hey, don't worry about that habitat being destroyed. Blue,
Speaker 7: We've got so much more to see here in the
Speaker 7: state of Queen's Land.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in the land cruiser.
Speaker 7: Or no blueing juvenile delinquents s they've knocked off the
Speaker 7: land cruiser.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 2: Robert Owen's lawyer says the cartoon defames Robert with unauthorized
Speaker 2: and deceptive use of his image. It's a political satire.
Speaker 2: It's a cartoon and it's pretty funny if you ask me.
Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen says Robert should lighten up and have a
Speaker 2: good laugh. And now there's this video that has emerged.
Speaker 2: It wasn't too long ago when Robert was saying pretty
Speaker 2: much the same thing as Pauline saying.
Speaker 11: It's being able to laugh at yourself as well, it's
Speaker 11: being able to go. You know, that's the fluff, that's
Speaker 11: the opinionated stuff. People will always have their point of view.
Speaker 2: Thanks to Peter Ford for unearthing that interview from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, Gary, how.
Speaker 3: Do you see this dispute? Give us your verdict in
Speaker 3: twenty seconds?
Speaker 5: I laugh at myself often Robert Owen should do that.
Speaker 5: Is only a young bloke, and I guess that now
Speaker 5: that he's been fronting the Queensland government out, I guess
Speaker 5: he's got to be good to his corporate sponsors.
Speaker 1: I think this is a storm and a teacup.
Speaker 5: But boy, about five million people have watched the clip
Speaker 5: because of his anger about it.
Speaker 3: Well done, Robert, exactly.
Speaker 2: That's the striisand effect in full force. Gary Hardgrave, thank
Speaker 2: you for your time this evening. Joining me now is
Speaker 2: academic and author Ralph Scholhammer, also columnist at the Brussels Signal. Ralph,
Speaker 2: the president of France's National Rally Party, which is soaring
Speaker 2: in the polls, has slammed the comments of star soccer
Speaker 2: player Killian Buppe, who has urged voters not to back
Speaker 2: what he calls far right parties in the snap parliamentary
Speaker 2: elections called by Emmanuel mccron. He is one of more
Speaker 2: than two hundred French athletes and celebrities who have signed
Speaker 2: an open letter telling voters to reject the far right.
Speaker 2: Jordan Bardella has said, I'm a little embarrassed to say
Speaker 2: these athletes give lessons to people you can no longer
Speaker 2: make ends made, who no longer feel safe, who do
Speaker 2: not have the chance to live in the neighborhoods overprotected
Speaker 2: by security agents. What do you make of this intervention
Speaker 2: by a soccer superstar and all those other celebrities. Will
Speaker 2: it have any sort of an impact on the French public?
Speaker 12: Well, you put me in a very uncomfortable position here
Speaker 12: because the Austrian team lost against the Pace team just
Speaker 12: a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 9: So who Clearly I am.
Speaker 12: Biased against the French soccer players, regardless of what they say.
Speaker 9: No, but I think you're absolutely right in analysis.
Speaker 12: I mean, I take it like the Romans, Like the
Speaker 12: Romans didn't care about the political views of their actors
Speaker 12: and decladiators, and basically celebrities and athletes are modern day
Speaker 12: actress and gladiators, and we shouldn't care too much about
Speaker 12: what they say. The national rally at the European Parliamentary elections,
Speaker 12: they want ninety three of a ninety three percent of
Speaker 12: all the electoral district in France, and that tells you
Speaker 12: where the French public stands, with the exception of Paris.
Speaker 12: Basically they are the ruling the land already. When it
Speaker 12: comes to two poles as well, we'll see if they
Speaker 12: can pull the same thing off on June third and
Speaker 12: July seventh with de parliamentary elections.
Speaker 9: But it doesn't matter to people anymore. Most people are
Speaker 9: annoyed by this.
Speaker 12: I think people can distinguish between I like soccer and
Speaker 12: I like to make ends made, and these things very
Speaker 12: often do not overlap.
Speaker 9: We see it, by the way, also in the United States,
Speaker 9: people still like Hollywood actors.
Speaker 12: But when Joe Biden mingles with these celebrities and gets
Speaker 12: the endorsement of Julia Roberts, George Clooney, and Robert de Niro,
Speaker 12: nobody sits at home and says, oh my god. Robert
Speaker 12: de Niro says, I have to vote for Joe Biden.
Speaker 12: I immediately change all my opinions. This is an illusion
Speaker 12: that many politicians have because they are very often caught
Speaker 12: in their own kind of you know, celebrity obsession that
Speaker 12: most people don't have.
Speaker 3: I think you're right.
Speaker 2: We saw it right here in Australia with the Voice referendum,
Speaker 2: where we had the awarding stars, the celebrities, all the
Speaker 2: big corporates, all of them backing the Yes side, and
Speaker 2: it was trunced quite comprehensively in the national vote. Now,
Speaker 2: the leader of France's national rally party, Marine Lipen, is
Speaker 2: being credited as the force behind the once fringe party
Speaker 2: now standing on the brink of power after they made
Speaker 2: enormous gains in the EU elections. President Emmanuel Macron was
Speaker 2: spooked into calling a snap election. Was that a massive
Speaker 2: miscalculation on his part?
Speaker 3: Ralph?
Speaker 12: Yes, I think so, And if you look at Macross's
Speaker 12: career so far, I think he has calculated quite a bit.
Speaker 9: Over the last seven years that he's been in office.
Speaker 12: There's this weird idea that are headlines in the Economist
Speaker 12: at the Financial time. So this is a four D
Speaker 12: chess move by Macron and another brilliant strategy by MacRath.
Speaker 12: I mean, I just want to remind everyone Macross started
Speaker 12: as a popular politician and is now a very unpopular politician.
Speaker 12: So I don't really get where all he's supposed a
Speaker 12: brilliant moves are coming from. This is again a delusion
Speaker 12: that the media continues to tell us. It's a little
Speaker 12: bit like with Joe Biden when they say sure, sure,
Speaker 12: he seems frail and out of it in public, but
Speaker 12: behind closed doors he's like sharp and super smart.
Speaker 9: No, but Crow is exactly how you see him.
Speaker 12: He's a again, he's not, let's put it this way,
Speaker 12: he knows how to present himself like Visually he's very appealing,
Speaker 12: but as a politician, I would say he's kind of moved.
Speaker 9: From one blunder to the next.
Speaker 12: None of his reform projects, from the pension to the
Speaker 12: Ukraine policy, he was capable of taking the French people
Speaker 12: with him and that's one.
Speaker 9: Of the most important things.
Speaker 12: And Lepen for her part, like Milonia, I have to admit,
Speaker 12: the face of the European right, or the competent European right,
Speaker 12: seems to be female. I'm deeply impressed both with the
Speaker 12: way in which he changed the National rally, which once
Speaker 12: was upon arsenal of her father, who was in many
Speaker 12: ways in the U Nazi.
Speaker 9: I think that's not an exaggeration.
Speaker 12: She really made it, on the one hand, a respectable party,
Speaker 12: but I think she's still stuck to the issues that
Speaker 12: are important for the people and that make it the
Speaker 12: right wing party, Like on immigration, and we see the
Speaker 12: same in Italy with Maloney. I mean, just as a reminder, right,
Speaker 12: remember when Maloney was ported into office. She's a fascist
Speaker 12: and she will lead Italy over a cliff. And you
Speaker 12: know what's going to happen that the cast catastrophe is
Speaker 12: upon us. And now remember just a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 12: a few days actually ago, the G seven meeting, I mean,
Speaker 12: the G seven meeting basically was like an episode out
Speaker 12: of The Walking Dead, with one exception, which was Georgia
Speaker 12: Maloney McCraw on on his last legs right, justin Trudeau,
Speaker 12: but with Joe Biden, manam. It's not just metaphorically, it's
Speaker 12: almost literally the Walking Dead. And pretty much every politician,
Speaker 12: with the exception of Maloney, is deeply unpopular in their
Speaker 12: own country except her.
Speaker 9: Of all the European politicians that.
Speaker 12: Actually won during the European elections, Maloney was the only
Speaker 12: incumbent who could gain votes and was not an opposition party.
Speaker 9: She's doing a great job.
Speaker 12: I know she's often criticized from the right that she's
Speaker 12: not moving fast enough and far enough, but I think
Speaker 12: she's playing a long game.
Speaker 9: Just lupendit.
Speaker 12: I think they are doing something that's very rude, and
Speaker 12: I wish them all the best.
Speaker 2: And you were one hundred percent right about the way
Speaker 2: the media misrepresented her when she first came to power.
Speaker 3: She was called a fascist, far right.
Speaker 2: A danger to democracy, so much hyperbole around her election,
Speaker 2: and she has emerged, as you've explained, one of the
Speaker 2: strongest and most popular leaders now. And I was also
Speaker 2: interested in how she greeted the different world leaders. She's
Speaker 2: not shy about expressing how she feels about them, whether
Speaker 2: she likes them, like if it's the Argentinian leader, Harve Milay,
Speaker 2: she's obviously a fan the Indian leader. And then when
Speaker 2: she was seeing some of the politicians she wasn't fond of,
Speaker 2: she could not hide her disdain.
Speaker 3: Clearly Maloney is not.
Speaker 2: An enormous fan of Brazil there as you can see.
Speaker 2: And I think she saved her greatest sustain for Emmanuel mccron.
Speaker 3: She has had ongoing issues with him, but she's going
Speaker 3: to have the.
Speaker 2: Final laugh, Ralph, because mccron is in all sorts of
Speaker 2: trouble as many leaders she greeted during the j seven,
Speaker 2: but she's likely to be there for some time, I
Speaker 2: hope so.
Speaker 9: And one is to say, right, this is Italy.
Speaker 12: Italy has been a notoriously difficult country to govern, and
Speaker 12: they never or barely ever had a government making it
Speaker 12: through the entire legislative period without having it it crumble
Speaker 12: or collapse. And she's doing a fantastic job. Right She's
Speaker 12: in a coalition government. So this is always what I
Speaker 12: tell the critics of her is do you think she's
Speaker 12: kind of She's not like the American president like she
Speaker 12: has to keep a coalition together and to govern. So
Speaker 12: this is very difficult unless you correctly pointed out. She
Speaker 12: distinguishes I think very well on the global stage which
Speaker 12: world leaders are pro Western and which leaders are not,
Speaker 12: which is why she gets along well with me Lee,
Speaker 12: and which is why she's critical Lula for example.
Speaker 9: And the absurdity that.
Speaker 12: We have in Western politics, right, well, we admire somebody
Speaker 12: like Lula who is absolutely ampty Western in his outlook,
Speaker 12: but we criticize somebody like Milae who wants to be
Speaker 12: a pro Western politician.
Speaker 9: It's completely absurd.
Speaker 12: So this kind of self hates that we see in
Speaker 12: Western societies as well, for example with the pro Palestine demonstrations,
Speaker 12: also has infected higher politics.
Speaker 9: That is a major issue, and I think she understands it.
Speaker 9: I think that Lepen understands it in a way that.
Speaker 12: Macau or Suna simply do not grasp what's going on there.
Speaker 2: Now, going back to France, there was a march against
Speaker 2: the far right, as a left call it. It took
Speaker 2: place in Paris over the way Ken, but it seemed
Speaker 2: to be more like a march against France, against the
Speaker 2: Western civilization. There wasn't too many French flags, I can say, there,
Speaker 2: but plenty of Palestinian flags, kafirs and science calling for
Speaker 2: Intafada ralph this was like a commercial for the national rally.
Speaker 2: I think they'd be quite happy to see this sort
Speaker 2: of footage going around the world.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 12: And I think that ultimately this could also help her
Speaker 12: because there is a growing impression also. I believe in
Speaker 12: the United States and I think also partially in Australia
Speaker 12: that the left tends to be for everything that's not
Speaker 12: the West.
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter what the idea is.
Speaker 12: And I think you see this if you take a
Speaker 12: close loot right it's green policies are anti civilizational policies.
Speaker 9: You see the pro Palestinian.
Speaker 12: Stance and anti Israel stands is basically an anti West
Speaker 12: and anti civilizational stance, and you see this in all
Speaker 12: these areas.
Speaker 9: And I think that gradually people are waking up to this.
Speaker 12: Originally they really thought that the left is concerned with
Speaker 12: the cause right, the environment, the plight of the Palestinians,
Speaker 12: you know, the plight of migrants.
Speaker 9: But the closer look, these are just projections.
Speaker 12: What they're really interested is is to always take the
Speaker 12: position that whatever is against the West is the site
Speaker 12: they are with. And the argument, of course, as many
Speaker 12: have explained on your explained on your show, that the
Speaker 12: essence of vokeness right, it's always the oppressor versus the oppressed,
Speaker 12: and there is not a single scenario in which the
Speaker 12: West is not the oppressor. So whoever is on the
Speaker 12: other side, even if it's Hamas right, they.
Speaker 9: Must be the good guys.
Speaker 12: And I mean, first of all, I think it's wrong,
Speaker 12: and I'm glad to see that more and more people
Speaker 12: wake up to this. And I just fear, there's all
Speaker 12: of the biggest fear that once again the media will
Speaker 12: accomplish two blackmail people not voting into parties that take
Speaker 12: a pro Western stance. This is the only fear I
Speaker 12: have because as you correctly pointed out, originally right, and
Speaker 12: they're already jumping in this hyper gear. Also in the
Speaker 12: United States, also in Australia. It's the far right, it's
Speaker 12: the radical right, it's the extreme right. But if you
Speaker 12: look at their positions, their positions are the same positions
Speaker 12: that are common sense person you know is having today
Speaker 12: or would have had.
Speaker 9: Thirty years ago.
Speaker 12: I mean, the basically sounds like the goal Faraj pretty
Speaker 12: much sounds like like in the well he talks differently about.
Speaker 9: His positions are basically Churchill's positions. So none of this
Speaker 9: is completely out of the extranory.
Speaker 12: But we have moved the cultural and academic institutions so
Speaker 12: far to the left that everything for them seems to
Speaker 12: be the far right, and the media, unfortunately is part
Speaker 12: of that of the viewpoint. So they think that everybody
Speaker 12: who's just slightly right off the Greens must be a
Speaker 12: radical right winger, and it's very, very difficult to fight
Speaker 12: against this.
Speaker 2: You're right, it's the media. It's a big part of
Speaker 2: the problem. And also that institutional power that has been
Speaker 2: corrupted by the left, and it started in academia, but
Speaker 2: it's gone much dafer than that. Ralph Sholhanna, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for your time this.
Speaker 9: Evening, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: And coming up.
Speaker 2: Next, Letty's Losing It and Jerry Snfel's latest show.
Speaker 3: Interrupted by protesters yet again. What did he say to them?
Speaker 3: I'll have that next.
Speaker 2: Welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it. And
Speaker 2: he wasn't just President Joe Barden embarrassing himself at a
Speaker 2: big LA fundraiser with the Hollywood elite. The talent on
Speaker 2: the night also tainted their good names, including funny man
Speaker 2: Jack Black, who seems to have lost his mojo. Get
Speaker 2: ready to cringe, folks.
Speaker 13: But my president needs me, thank you. And then they
Speaker 13: hit me with the big one. They said, Jack, you
Speaker 13: can't go. You have nothing to wear.
Speaker 10: Your good suit is in the cleaners.
Speaker 13: Well were they wrong? Because I had this to wear,
Speaker 13: my kick ass American flag overalls, most patriotic outfit of
Speaker 13: all times. Not shut him up. There wasn't much they
Speaker 13: could say after that. And when the president wins in November,
Speaker 13: I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a sweet shout
Speaker 13: out in his victory speech for what I gave up
Speaker 13: to be here, Because when democracy is at stake, Jack
Speaker 13: Black answers the.
Speaker 3: Call, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed for him too, and I want to make
Speaker 2: it clear that was the best he had that night.
Speaker 2: That was the highlight of his routine.
Speaker 3: That was the bit that Jack Black himself promoted on
Speaker 3: social media.
Speaker 2: Goodness may now some breaking news from Joy read considered
Speaker 2: by many the looniest of lefties at MSNBC, and that
Speaker 2: is no small fate.
Speaker 3: Here is Joy discovering.
Speaker 2: That summer is actually hot. Next you'll tell me water
Speaker 2: is wet.
Speaker 4: Of climate collapse and the greed that is literally letting
Speaker 4: our country burn. Today, millions of Americans from Iowa to
Speaker 4: Maine are suffering through heat warnings, watches, or advisories. Cities
Speaker 4: across half of the country, like Chicago, Saint Louis and Indianapolis, Detroit, Philly,
Speaker 4: and now New York are hitting temperatures exceeding ninety degrees fahrenheit,
Speaker 4: though it feels closer to one hundred. Many of these
Speaker 4: cities could experience heat indexes hitting one hundred and five
Speaker 4: degrees by Sunday. These increasingly oppressive hot days aren't a coincidence.
Speaker 4: They aren't They are the predictable impact of a climate crisis.
Speaker 4: And they're not just an inconvenience, they're also killing us.
Speaker 2: It's literally summer tomorrow in America ninety degrees fahrenheit. That's
Speaker 2: thirty two degrees celsius for everywhere else in the world.
Speaker 2: That's delightful weather. I don't know how that's deadly or
Speaker 2: an inconvenience.
Speaker 3: Get a grip.
Speaker 2: Joy From one unhinged joy to another, let's hear from
Speaker 2: the views. Joy Beja talking with MSNBC's Rachel Maddow at
Speaker 2: they both share this fever dream about Trump coming to
Speaker 2: get them.
Speaker 14: So you said recently that you thought that you, as
Speaker 14: an outspoken critic, could be a target yourself. Some people
Speaker 14: think that sounds over dramatic, but I'm right there with you.
Speaker 14: I think that he is so vindictive that he will
Speaker 14: go after however he has to do the irs maybe
Speaker 14: or even I mean through sponsors, to get us off
Speaker 14: the air. Maybe you are you how seriously should we
Speaker 14: be taking that?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 2: If Trump can promise that, if elected, he will remove
Speaker 2: Rachel Matter and Joey Beha from the airwaves, then he.
Speaker 3: May justus win every state.
Speaker 2: Now, let's have a good laugh with this card dealer
Speaker 2: from Louisiana who has saved his business via social media.
Speaker 2: How well he mocks fame seeking social media, influences online
Speaker 2: and manages to sell cars. Let's have a look at
Speaker 2: how Doug Townsend does it.
Speaker 12: I really don't.
Speaker 9: It's gotten into me recently. Not nutrition.
Speaker 15: Hey we got a twenty four Willies just came in Comala.
Speaker 1: Real so nice wing.
Speaker 12: In on.
Speaker 15: Bro grinder is rocket these days?
Speaker 3: Look you on the nine anyway?
Speaker 15: Hey we got a twenty five ram fifteen hundred sst
Speaker 15: can't get it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to know who I date, who I
Speaker 3: go with?
Speaker 15: Nope, but I think you think you're black. Hey we
Speaker 15: got a twenty five sst Ram truck. Come holla.
Speaker 9: I want to sub me too.
Speaker 10: I want to suck me too.
Speaker 15: My baby Mama's Grandma's got a fast than you.
Speaker 1: You should take that thing and just.
Speaker 15: Go park it somewhere else. Hey, we got a twenty
Speaker 15: four deep Gladiator.
Speaker 2: Now, while don't Trump speaks about the senseless murder of
Speaker 2: a mother of five by an illegal immigrant, what is
Speaker 2: the Biden administration borders? Ur Kamala Harris up to.
Speaker 16: Talk?
Speaker 2: Yes, the Vice President is busy welcoming the cast of
Speaker 2: Queeri to the White House. Meanwhile, the border crisis continues,
Speaker 2: got illegal immigrants committing unspeakable crimes. We've got more than
Speaker 2: two million a year crossing the southern border illegally. Joining
Speaker 2: me now is a journalist and filmmaker, Army Horoiz.
Speaker 3: Army.
Speaker 2: We're not just talking about isolated cases here. I know
Speaker 2: there's some cases that receive a great deal of media coverage,
Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty three alone, there were seventy three
Speaker 2: thousand non citizens arrested for crimes. Now, of course, not
Speaker 2: all of them are illegal immigrants, but when you've had
Speaker 2: more than seven million cross illegally during Biden's term, you'd
Speaker 2: expect the borders are to be a little bit more
Speaker 2: focused on her job. But this is something that she
Speaker 2: was charged with some time ago. I don't even know
Speaker 2: how many times she's been down to that southern border.
Speaker 10: Look there, Bikeen is so bad at this.
Speaker 8: I mean again, this is the number one issue in
Speaker 8: the country, one or two based on polling, and they
Speaker 8: are completely failing on this. Look, this whole idea that
Speaker 8: they're trying to shift the blame to Republicans is total insanity.
Speaker 10: His dog won't hunt.
Speaker 8: Yes, for three years, they did nothing and then in
Speaker 8: the fourth year and they realize they're down the polls.
Speaker 8: All of a sudden, he found the ability to do
Speaker 8: the executive order. All of a sudden, he said, heyts
Speaker 8: negotiate dealer Republicans. Nobody believes that.
Speaker 10: Now. Of course, if it was jet look the thing
Speaker 10: that's crazy.
Speaker 8: He's like, I don't need to care about the border,
Speaker 8: but just for self preservation. Look this whole think about
Speaker 8: the the the people across the border. Ten people from
Speaker 8: Tajikistan who were trying to commit terrorist attacks. Three of
Speaker 8: them came through ports of entry. And they said, but hey,
Speaker 8: but they were vetted. You mean you were lying on
Speaker 8: records from tie Jikie's stand. That's how this thing works.
Speaker 8: That's how you're saying, we're going to vet these people
Speaker 8: coming through. I mean, it is unbelievable. Could you imagine
Speaker 8: what would happen if they actually committed a terrorist attack?
Speaker 8: This election would be over just based on that. I know,
Speaker 8: it doesn't care about the border, the protection of Americans.
Speaker 8: Based on that, dude, you got to stop these guys
Speaker 8: from coming in.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's not a priority. Quite clearly. I want
Speaker 3: to ask you about Hollywood.
Speaker 2: And its reaction to the ongoing Israeli Hamas war. Actor
Speaker 2: John Cusack is the latest Hollywood star to pedal October
Speaker 2: seven conspiracy theories. I don't know what else we can
Speaker 2: call this is is tweeting and retweeting all sorts of
Speaker 2: anti Israeli nonsense, including this from an activist who says
Speaker 2: Israel killed many, if not most, of its own people
Speaker 2: on October seven.
Speaker 3: What do you say to that army?
Speaker 8: This is a particularly sad story for me, Riader, because
Speaker 8: John Cusack was a fixture of my childhood and it's
Speaker 8: sad to see how this guy has degraded himself, not
Speaker 8: just on Israel, but he's a crazy leftist across the board.
Speaker 8: Now look, yeah, because I did show prep for you
Speaker 8: mita right, So I actually went on the Internet and
Speaker 8: looked up John Cuzzack for the News, and the number
Speaker 8: one article by John Cusack was out. He didn't get
Speaker 8: what he wanted in the movie High Fidelity. The problem is,
Speaker 8: first of all, exemplifies a couple of problems. One is
Speaker 8: a problem with the left when it comes to Israel. Right,
Speaker 8: he's a man in the left. He said he won't
Speaker 8: talk to anybody in his family who are supports of Trump,
Speaker 8: and this is what you get on the hard left,
Speaker 8: this anti Israel and frankly and Semitic conspiracy theories. But
Speaker 8: the bigger problem is that they're not covering this. This
Speaker 8: is not being covered by the mainstream media or pretty
Speaker 8: much anybody else. That's the major issue. This guy has
Speaker 8: a record, It's not one thing. This is a guy
Speaker 8: who has reposted the Hamas is created by Israel, that
Speaker 8: there were no rapes that happened on October seventh. This
Speaker 8: is the guy who's posted it was committing genocide. He
Speaker 8: reposted somebody tweeting how Ziona should all be killed. This
Speaker 8: guy is a crazy person that's not covered, but it
Speaker 8: was covered today with the fact tried to describe why
Speaker 8: he didn't rejoin Hot Tub time Machine number two.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the way in Hollywood, amongst the celebrity class,
Speaker 2: sporting stars, everybody, if they say something that's even slightly
Speaker 2: right of center, even if it's very much a mainstream opinion,
Speaker 2: like what JK. Rowling has said on trans issues, that
Speaker 2: are absolutely.
Speaker 3: Slandered by the media.
Speaker 2: There's one hundred news articles and columns about how terrible
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: But you can say any far left French.
Speaker 2: Dwelling comment and the media just look the other way.
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because many of them agree with those
Speaker 2: points of view, but that is an issue, and I
Speaker 2: think that's why a lot of celebrities, Yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of celebrities who don't feel that way just keep their
Speaker 2: mouths shut. Now we've got a big celebrity in Australia
Speaker 2: right now, Jerry Seinfeld is playing his shows across the country.
Speaker 3: I've played footage.
Speaker 2: Earlier in the week of the way he mocked an
Speaker 2: anti Israeli protester who disrupted a Sydney show, and it
Speaker 2: happened again. Pro Palestinian protesters again disrupted the Jewish Comics
Speaker 2: another show in Sydney, and again Jerry mocked them. But
Speaker 2: this time I've got to say he was a little
Speaker 2: bit more gentle.
Speaker 3: Let's have a look.
Speaker 9: You're getting them on your side, can you hear it?
Speaker 12: Good?
Speaker 10: Yes, there's the police. You have.
Speaker 1: Feelings that you don't know where to stay them.
Speaker 9: Think that ruining the night? It doesn't affect me. All
Speaker 9: these people, you're ruining their nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ami, why do you think that targeting Jerry Seinfeld?
Speaker 3: I wonder what that could be.
Speaker 10: Hm.
Speaker 8: Let me try and figure this out. I don't know,
Speaker 8: because he's Jewish? Could that be it?
Speaker 10: He's a Jew?
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 8: Actually I like the fact that Zeienfeld doesn't let this go.
Speaker 8: He actually does go ahead and roast the protesters. You know,
Speaker 8: the protester was chanting from the river to the sea,
Speaker 8: and you know, he commented, Hey, you just solved the
Speaker 8: Middle Eastern problem, and I think I liked he Also
Speaker 8: he was able to curate his roasting based on the
Speaker 8: fact that you guys in Australia, and he said, why
Speaker 8: don't you guys figure out your aboriginal problem first before
Speaker 8: you try to attack Israel.
Speaker 10: No, I love that he went on the attack.
Speaker 8: But I think the funniest part of the whole thing
Speaker 8: but the protester waited until the show was just about
Speaker 8: done before he disrupted it, so we could watch Jerry
Speaker 8: Seinfeld before he was thrown out.
Speaker 2: Well, the cost of the tickets are not small, hundreds
Speaker 2: of dollars per ticket, so I guess if you're going
Speaker 2: to buy a ticket just to protest, you want to
Speaker 2: watch the show. But yeah, that was the one earlier
Speaker 2: in the week. But this has happened again last night's show,
Speaker 2: and again this time he roasted them, but I think
Speaker 2: it was a little bit more gentle than the first time.
Speaker 2: But the crowds certainly gave it to the protesters. They
Speaker 2: got roundly booed and escorted out very quickly by police.
Speaker 3: Now I want to ask you about Wikipedia before you go.
Speaker 2: Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that Wikipedia
Speaker 2: is not an unbiased platform. It often is not reliable
Speaker 2: or objective source of information, and that is also the
Speaker 2: case when it comes to Israel. Investigative journalist Aaron Bandler
Speaker 2: has written a piece about the seven tactics Wikipedia editors
Speaker 2: have used to spread anti Israel biased since October seven,
Speaker 2: including adding anti imperialism into her master's list of ideologies
Speaker 2: and removing anti Semitism. There's anti zionism they're but not
Speaker 2: anti Semitism. But this is a worry army because for
Speaker 2: a lot of people they trust Wikipedia.
Speaker 3: It's seen as a.
Speaker 2: Unbiased source of information, but often there is a lot
Speaker 2: of activism at work there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's deliberate obviously, the anti imperialism and removing
Speaker 8: any semitism. The antiperalism is because they're trying to actually
Speaker 8: lionize Hamas the left I mean this is this is.
Speaker 8: Wikipedia is also relied on hamas one numbers for Hami
Speaker 8: civilians were kilter obviously debunked that we and we all
Speaker 8: knew that they were not their own lives. They they
Speaker 8: didn't include October seventh as a list of major Islamic
Speaker 8: terrorist attacks, even though it was one of the largest
Speaker 8: Limic terrorist attacks. No, the Wikipedia problem reader is actually
Speaker 8: one of the biggest problems we have in our country.
Speaker 8: I know that sounds crazy, but you have to understand.
Speaker 8: Wikipedia is the first thing people go to, including myself,
Speaker 8: knowing that it's biased to get information on something. If
Speaker 8: you're looking up almost anything, It's on the top of
Speaker 8: the Google search list. Look, it is a found of
Speaker 8: all informations, the modern day library of Alexandria. And it
Speaker 8: is incredibly biased to the left. And we know, you know,
Speaker 8: I like to make things all about me and to
Speaker 8: give you example of that, look when they list Michael Moore,
Speaker 8: they list him as an American filmmaker, they list me,
Speaker 8: They listen to me as right wing filmmaker.
Speaker 10: I'm not even a I'm not a right wing person.
Speaker 10: I'm a very moderate person.
Speaker 8: I can go on nods about righting Wikipedia on my paage.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's it is a significant problem that we
Speaker 8: have with information in our country and I don't know
Speaker 8: how it gets fixed.
Speaker 10: I don't think it does.
Speaker 2: Why I would I argue you Google is a bigger
Speaker 2: problem than Wikipedia because Google has got a virtual monopoly.
Speaker 2: It's how people find that information, whether they wanting to
Speaker 2: find a business or get an explanation on something or
Speaker 2: learn how to do something.
Speaker 3: You google it.
Speaker 2: It's a verb, and Google itself has got biases in
Speaker 2: its algorithms. Horowitz, always a pleasure, Thanks for your time
Speaker 2: this evening coming up next? Is this the final chapter
Speaker 2: for Lea Thomas. Stephanie Bastian joins me next, Welcome back.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is research fellow for the Women's Forum Australia,
Speaker 2: Stephanie Bastian.
Speaker 3: Stephanie.
Speaker 2: Let's start In Tasmania, the Health Minister there, Gay Barnett,
Speaker 2: is urging the federal government to hold a national review
Speaker 2: into public medical services for children with gender dysphoria after
Speaker 2: the UK's cast review found the science behind the services
Speaker 2: was severely lacking. He said a national review would allow
Speaker 2: consideration of all available evidence from across the country to
Speaker 2: ensure these services are best practice evidence based and that patience,
Speaker 2: safety and well being is paramount. Now, what are the
Speaker 2: chances that we will see a national review?
Speaker 16: Good evening, reader, and thank you for having me on tonight.
Speaker 16: I think at the moment it's very slim. Mark Butler,
Speaker 16: our Health Minister, seems to have his head in the sand.
Speaker 16: But I commend the Liberal Health Minister in Tasmania for
Speaker 16: coming out. They're the first party of government at a
Speaker 16: state level to acknowledge the findings of the CAST review,
Speaker 16: following on from Opposition leader Libby met him in Western Australia.
Speaker 16: The Coalition in Tasmania have conversion therapy laws on their
Speaker 16: table that include gender identity. Obviously, we know that gender
Speaker 16: identity is synonymous with gender dysphoria shouldn't be included in
Speaker 16: any form of conversion therapy laws. So I actually think
Speaker 16: it's probably in the Tasmanian government's best interest to try
Speaker 16: and hold a state inquiry before they passed those laws. Now,
Speaker 16: I recognize that they are in a minority government they
Speaker 16: may need to work with the cross bench on this one. However,
Speaker 16: I think it is really important that they do so
Speaker 16: before moving forward.
Speaker 2: Now, staying in Tasmania, Hobart City Council has apologized to
Speaker 2: Counselor Louise Elliot after she lodged a complaint with the
Speaker 2: Anti Discrimination Commissioner, alleging she was blocked from booking the
Speaker 2: town Hall for a women's rights and free speech forum
Speaker 2: back in September twenty twenty three. She claimed her request
Speaker 2: was leaked to an activist group by the Lord Mayor.
Speaker 2: The activists then led the City of Hobart's staff to
Speaker 2: believe the event was anti trans and that prompted them
Speaker 2: to block the booking. The Australian reveals several senior staff
Speaker 2: have now left the council since that scandal.
Speaker 3: Loise Elliot says she is pleased.
Speaker 2: The discrimination complaint has been resolved, adding the depth of
Speaker 2: the lying, scheming, gas lighting, privacy breaches and frustration of
Speaker 2: legal avenues and processes has been astounding and she has
Speaker 2: got email exchanges and all sorts of information that shows
Speaker 2: how this entire affair was conducted.
Speaker 16: Yes, well, congratulations to Luise Elliott. She's taken a strong
Speaker 16: stance and she has paved the way for other women
Speaker 16: to challenge the way that they're being treated on council.
Speaker 16: I mean, what an absolute disgrace by the Hobart City Council.
Speaker 16: They were found to have discriminated against her, they were lying,
Speaker 16: they were cohorting with outside the Tasmanian Equal Opportunity Commissioner.
Speaker 16: It is absolutely outrageous and they need a full and
Speaker 16: thorough investigation. But this is actually happening everywhere. That's happening
Speaker 16: in councils across in Victoria where women are being pushed
Speaker 16: aside by activists who think they're above the law and
Speaker 16: above the regulations, particularly in labour dominated councils in the
Speaker 16: western suburbs. Time and time again, these counselors and these
Speaker 16: councils working with the CEO are breaking the rules, breaking
Speaker 16: the law, and they need to be held accountable. We've
Speaker 16: got a clear cut example. I'm sure if we had
Speaker 16: widespread investigations we would see this happening everywhere. So I
Speaker 16: think it's time that we review the rules and make
Speaker 16: sure that they can't be exploited in this way, but
Speaker 16: also investigate to put an end to it, because it
Speaker 16: is just so unfair on these women, these mums who
Speaker 16: are putting their hand up to try and support their
Speaker 16: local community.
Speaker 2: And I do worry about how many women, how many
Speaker 2: counselors who feel this way not speaking up because they've
Speaker 2: seen the treatment that others have copped. And Louise has
Speaker 2: been very brave and she's courageously fought this battle. But
Speaker 2: a lot of people would be cowed into silence, but
Speaker 2: she won't be.
Speaker 3: She's a tough one.
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about transgender swimmer Lea Thomas, biological male
Speaker 2: identifying as female. He's lost his legal battle against the
Speaker 2: World Aquatics for a spot in elite female swimming competitions
Speaker 2: he was hoping to compete at the Paris Olympics later
Speaker 2: this year. The twenty five year old is still barred
Speaker 2: from swimming in elite female races, as the Court of
Speaker 2: Arbitration for Sport held up the ban on anyone who
Speaker 2: has undergone any part of male puberty from competing. Is
Speaker 2: this the end of this issue, Stephanie, as far as
Speaker 2: swimming is concerned and is going to have any impact
Speaker 2: on other sporting codes.
Speaker 16: I don't think it's quite the end of the road. Yet,
Speaker 16: he got his case thrown out because he wasn't a
Speaker 16: member of Swimming USA, so technically someone could join there
Speaker 16: and then launch another challenge. However, World Aquatics. We're willing
Speaker 16: to defend it based on the fact that they put
Speaker 16: their guidelines together on the best expert medical and scientific
Speaker 16: advice available. So I think the court still would have
Speaker 16: made a finding against him. It still can be challenged, however,
Speaker 16: I think also I support the call for him to
Speaker 16: hand back his medals because this has been outrageous against
Speaker 16: all the other female athletes. It is unfair that when
Speaker 16: you have males competing and taking their spots, the whole
Speaker 16: thing's a sham. So even if there are other challenges,
Speaker 16: I think they'll be shot down fairly quickly.
Speaker 2: Now, a transgender teen athlete is complaining to local newspapers
Speaker 2: that he was hurt that female runners that he beat
Speaker 2: because he is a male identifying as a female at
Speaker 2: a state track and field championship in Washington. While these
Speaker 2: girls were apparently not forthcoming with congratulations, they weren't being
Speaker 2: sufficiently supportive. Veronica Garcia told these Spokesman review I guess
Speaker 2: maybe I expected sports ship because I was cheering the
Speaker 2: rest of them on when they were called, so I
Speaker 2: guess I expected it to get reciprocated, but I didn't
Speaker 2: get that.
Speaker 3: Now, let's look at the winning time. Here.
Speaker 2: Veronica's winning time of fifty five point seventy five seconds
Speaker 2: in the women's four hundred meter was a full second
Speaker 2: quicker than the second place skeetter. But had this athlete
Speaker 2: been competing against the males, as I argue he should
Speaker 2: have been, he wouldn't even managed sixteenth place. I mean,
Speaker 2: that is how big the gap is, even at that
Speaker 2: level for young athletes.
Speaker 3: Stephanie, it is.
Speaker 2: That's why it is so grossly unfair, because we're talking
Speaker 2: about places in a state team's national teams, Olympic spots,
Speaker 2: but also at a lower level, scholarships and all sorts
Speaker 2: of other accolades that come with being great at sport.
Speaker 16: This this is emotional manipulation. Reader. Can you imagine how those
Speaker 16: female competitors are feeling as they watch him claim their titles.
Speaker 16: I'm sorry, it is not good enough. Don't come into
Speaker 16: women's sports and then be surprised when they're sitting there
Speaker 16: looking at you taking their titles.
Speaker 12: It's just not good enough.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time
Speaker 2: this evening. That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight.
Speaker 2: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow