Speaker 1: Hi, Christy casters.
Speaker 2: Now, as Paul and Hanson would say, if you're listening
Speaker 2: to this, it means that I'm having a holiday something.
Speaker 1: Can you believe?
Speaker 2: The holiday season is upon us and I am practicing
Speaker 2: the ultimate self care and I am actually going to
Speaker 2: disappear for a while. I'm going to try anyway. I'll
Speaker 2: probably be back here tomorrow. Please enjoy a few bits
Speaker 2: and bobs that I have collected over the year. I've
Speaker 2: had so much fun doing this podcast. I hope you've
Speaker 2: had a good time listening to it. There might be
Speaker 2: a few crackers in here. Pardon the pun. It is
Speaker 2: Christmas that you have forgotten about. Enjoy see you next year.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You and I worked for very many years together on
Speaker 2: breakfast radio.
Speaker 1: We did and.
Speaker 2: One thing that we really enjoyed doing and people enjoyed
Speaker 2: very much, was a segment called how very dare you?
Speaker 2: Absolutely and the best example of it was a caller
Speaker 2: called up.
Speaker 3: It's when people say things to you that are so
Speaker 3: rude you can't believe they've come out of their k
Speaker 3: cos they.
Speaker 1: Strip the oxygen from your lungs.
Speaker 3: You are you don't know how to respond because you're
Speaker 3: in great shock.
Speaker 2: You're in such great shock, and all that can come
Speaker 2: out is how very dare you?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that one that the poor woman called up?
Speaker 2: She was, you know, a biggish person whatever, and she
Speaker 2: was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Can you remember, talent? Tell it?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember it as it comes out. And
Speaker 2: she was in hospital, maybe getting a check up or something,
Speaker 2: and a trainee doctor came in and they were that.
Speaker 2: Her actual doctor was like, do you mind if we,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of I do a mock consultation.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, sure, no worries.
Speaker 2: And then he turned around in front of her and
Speaker 2: said something like, now what do we do with such
Speaker 2: an enormous woman? How do we deal with a big,
Speaker 2: fat lady like this?
Speaker 1: And she was just sitting there on the bed, going.
Speaker 4: How very day you?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: I had a.
Speaker 3: Situation that took the wind out of my sales recently,
Speaker 3: and if you will indulge me, sure, I was coming
Speaker 3: back from seeing a couple of girlfriends and I thought,
Speaker 3: I'm a bit peckish. I'm going to stop at the
Speaker 3: fish and chip shop.
Speaker 1: Get myself something to it.
Speaker 3: So you know already that's a sad sack story, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I'm having solo fish and chips. I'm heading home by
Speaker 3: myself to eat them.
Speaker 2: You see, this is the difference between you and I
Speaker 2: when you literally when you said I'd gone to see
Speaker 2: some friends and I was a bit peckish and I
Speaker 2: stopped into the fish and chip shop.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the perfect day. Okay, that is
Speaker 1: the perfect day.
Speaker 3: I just felt like a washed up old bag heading
Speaker 3: home by yourself requiring some you know, greasy food. Your
Speaker 3: standard order, by the way, oh, a piece of grilled
Speaker 3: fish and small france it small chips?
Speaker 2: What grilled?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Grilled? Well, I've got to I've got to keep it real.
Speaker 4: In some way, don't I Occasionally I tell you what
Speaker 4: I will have that I do love.
Speaker 1: You're dim, sim oh, steamed or fry right?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow, oh my god, this is a really big moment
Speaker 1: for you. That s something there.
Speaker 2: You have said that, you have admitted that you enjoy
Speaker 2: something that everybody enjoys.
Speaker 1: This is big, great, great, I'm.
Speaker 4: Crying anyway, I want to tell you this story.
Speaker 1: Sure, so I ring.
Speaker 3: I would think I'll do a phone order so don't
Speaker 3: have to wait around. So I ring it hot, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you want to order? And I say oh, no,
Speaker 3: give my order, and then he goes, okay, thanks, hangs up,
Speaker 3: and I go.
Speaker 1: I didn't give my name. Oh I don't give my nap.
Speaker 4: Are they going to know?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 4: How they going to know? So I panic drove all
Speaker 4: the way to the fish and chip shop, got out.
Speaker 4: When inside went up to things, I did a phone order,
Speaker 4: but I didn't say it was for me, and he goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: we know it's here. We keep fine numbers, you know,
Speaker 4: like we know people the locals that order we you know,
Speaker 4: we keep.
Speaker 2: Their phone numbers. Are you are you under sad, single drunk?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, great, yeah, yep. Yeah, so that's how they
Speaker 1: know me.
Speaker 3: Of course I said, oh, okay, all right, and I
Speaker 3: said you've got my phone number, and then very so coquettish, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, I know, just thinking and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: we don't go giving it out, will You wouldn't want
Speaker 3: people getting my phone number, you know, having a bit
Speaker 3: of a joke, and then I sort of thought I'll
Speaker 3: just take it back a bit. No, went not that
Speaker 3: anyone would want it, and he looks at me and
Speaker 3: he goes, nah.
Speaker 1: But there was a time.
Speaker 2: I went.
Speaker 1: Very how very I was. I went, oh, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes here not anymore?
Speaker 4: Oh oh my, a bit of doubling down there on
Speaker 4: the insult.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know.
Speaker 4: I could feel my sort of heart rate rising, and
Speaker 4: then hot tears started sprouting, and I quickly grabbed my
Speaker 4: solo old lady order of greasy fish and chips and
Speaker 4: went and sat back in the ten year old Volvo
Speaker 4: and thought, is this what I've come to?
Speaker 1: Is this what life is?
Speaker 4: Washed up? No one wants my phone number, everyone's aware
Speaker 4: of it, no one cares, and I'm eeting about a
Speaker 4: year's worth of calories by myself.
Speaker 2: I want your number and I will use it. And
Speaker 2: I am not the only one.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, if you could send me a list of
Speaker 4: the other people that are happy to have my phone number,
Speaker 4: that would be really nice.
Speaker 1: Because I'd like to like look at it before I
Speaker 1: go to sleep.
Speaker 2: I have to tell you that the entire point of
Speaker 2: creating a podcast out of nothing was so I could
Speaker 2: talk to you.
Speaker 6: Oh, for Heaven's sake, I don't leave you, but I
Speaker 6: am appreciative of those kind words.
Speaker 1: I'm holding up your book right now.
Speaker 2: Have I told you the origin story about how I
Speaker 2: came to own a copy of do Walk by Libby Delana?
Speaker 6: No, I don't think you have.
Speaker 2: Okay, So my friend Zoe Foster Blake, who lives in Sydney,
Speaker 2: follows me on Instagram but knows me irl and she noticed,
Speaker 2: you know, three or four years ago that I was
Speaker 2: walking like a maniac and it was changing my life.
Speaker 2: And she said to me, have you heard of Libby
Speaker 2: Delana and her book?
Speaker 1: And I said, no, I haven't.
Speaker 2: And then, almost by magic, two days later, this book
Speaker 2: arrived in my postbox and I inhaled it. And I've
Speaker 2: never felt more understood than when I read this, because
Speaker 2: I thought I was losing my mind with the changes
Speaker 2: that walking made in my life, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden there was somebody else. When did you discover the
Speaker 2: life changing benefits of walking? Oh?
Speaker 6: My goodness, aren't you lovely? I was about to ask
Speaker 6: you a question like no, this is her interview. I
Speaker 6: was about to ask you, what were those life changing
Speaker 6: things that you learned? I mean, isn't it powerful? It's
Speaker 6: so powerful? And thank you, by the way, those are
Speaker 6: very very kind words. And I feel as if walking
Speaker 6: is accessible, if we are very fortunate to be able
Speaker 6: bodied to a lot of us and it's a really
Speaker 6: powerful practice. So I started twelve years ago. Life was
Speaker 6: fairly grand. I was very privileged, healthy family, lovely career,
Speaker 6: absolutely nothing to complain about. But what I realized is
Speaker 6: that when I was younger, I was rather free reign outdoorsy,
Speaker 6: and that's where I chose to be. If you were
Speaker 6: to ask Libya ten, where's your happy place would be outside?
Speaker 6: And what I realized twelve years ago was I wasn't
Speaker 6: consciously making the choice to include that part of my
Speaker 6: life in my daily life. And so one morning, honestly,
Speaker 6: I sort of said, well, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 6: going to do that, Like brushing my teeth, it's a
Speaker 6: non negotiable being outdoors. And so I decided, well, what
Speaker 6: can I do. I can go for a walk and
Speaker 6: can get up an hour early, my kids are still asleep,
Speaker 6: go for a walk, come back and get off to work.
Speaker 6: And I guess what I found over the course of
Speaker 6: time that more and more lessons were revealed each walk.
Speaker 6: The way I like to describe it now, and this
Speaker 6: is a crude story because I don't play video games,
Speaker 6: or haven't I probably should at this point because I
Speaker 6: use this analogy, but my understanding is when you play
Speaker 6: video games, you are offered cheek codes or levels or passes,
Speaker 6: and the more you play, the more access you get
Speaker 6: to more I don't know, spaces and part of the game.
Speaker 6: That's what I feel about walking. The more I walk,
Speaker 6: the more I have access to I don't know. I
Speaker 6: believe they are life's the biggest lessons and it's only
Speaker 6: because I continue to walk that I have access to them.
Speaker 6: So if there's a day when I think, oh, I
Speaker 6: don't want to go, like no, no, no, it's not
Speaker 6: an option. It might be a shorter walk, it might
Speaker 6: be a different walk. But I think a lot of
Speaker 6: life lessons are embedded in a practice that honors who
Speaker 6: you are. And for me, that happens to be walking,
Speaker 6: and it sounds like it is for you. How did
Speaker 6: you start?
Speaker 2: I started because, like you, from the outside, everything was great.
Speaker 2: I'd achieved everything that I should have achieved. Beautiful children,
Speaker 2: lovely house, fantastic career. But I just felt like, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I just started to hear these voices in
Speaker 2: my head, like what's happened to you?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: You don't have any fun, you don't really enjoy anything.
Speaker 2: And at about that time it's so weird your story
Speaker 2: about you know, being ten and realizing that that outdoorsiness
Speaker 2: was what you needed to reintroduce to get back to yourself.
Speaker 2: At that time of my life, I found a photograph.
Speaker 2: There's almost no photographs of me. I'm the third child,
Speaker 2: you know, seventies, not nobody took any photos. But I
Speaker 2: found this one photograph of me at five, and I
Speaker 2: was so silenced by how familiar that person was to me,
Speaker 2: but also how far away that person was from me.
Speaker 2: Then I mean, it sounds crazy, Libby, but I would
Speaker 2: start talking to her, going, I've got myself in a mess.
Speaker 1: What can you do for me? What do you like
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 2: Because I had forgotten and it and doubt that as
Speaker 2: a child, I loved being on my own. I loved
Speaker 2: being by myself and using my imagination and having little
Speaker 2: conversations with myself. And because my life is so noisy
Speaker 2: and highly populated, I thought, how am I going to
Speaker 2: get any time alone? If this is what I need
Speaker 2: to do, And I put on my runners and I
Speaker 2: left the house, and I felt like with every step
Speaker 2: I was walking closer to who I should have been,
Speaker 2: should be And it's magical.
Speaker 1: It's just magical.
Speaker 2: I think a great indicator that you are with the
Speaker 2: right person is that you and your husband, Scott Marvel
Speaker 2: Caussidy make up songs about your relationship with therapist.
Speaker 5: Did we did make up a song Scott has? He
Speaker 5: likes to do repetitive singing. It kind of calms them down.
Speaker 5: And I was okay with that, Like, I'm like, that's comedians.
Speaker 5: That is what comedians are doing all the time, joke
Speaker 5: telling over, just trying to calm himself down by talking.
Speaker 5: And so he was so grateful because I guess many
Speaker 5: of his girlfriends had said, You've got to.
Speaker 6: Stop singing that song right now.
Speaker 5: And I was like, no, let's do it. Let's get
Speaker 5: into that song, Let's write new verses. Let's I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of one of the verses that
Speaker 2: really made me snort laugh, And I just loved it
Speaker 2: because I do that too.
Speaker 1: I make up songs about my dog, about.
Speaker 2: My kids, and I mean it delights me and almost
Speaker 2: nobody else. So I feel like the two of you
Speaker 2: appreciating that is a great son.
Speaker 5: Yes, it is good. Yeah, there's there's something about it
Speaker 5: because there's a lot of little empty time where you
Speaker 5: can't share any new information with each other, like nothing's
Speaker 5: happened recently with Scott always surprises me, like he'll come
Speaker 5: out with some piece of information. I'll be like what.
Speaker 5: But yes, sometimes you got to fill the space with you. Listen,
Speaker 5: we sing Billy joel uh songs to the lyrics of turkey,
Speaker 5: like chicken leg.
Speaker 2: Can you give us an example of that, Maria, let
Speaker 2: me see.
Speaker 5: Jerky leg turk and leg at a chicken leg and
Speaker 5: a turky leg to jerk and a chick chick lig
Speaker 5: jerk and I can do.
Speaker 1: Leg.
Speaker 5: It's not good.
Speaker 1: And hang on, I'm hearing the tune.
Speaker 2: It's here and all wet dress and a party on
Speaker 2: your confirmation.
Speaker 1: It's that song, isn't it.
Speaker 5: You're a professional thing, Oh Maria.
Speaker 1: I am not. I just enjoy it in the shower. Gosh,
Speaker 1: haven't we had a lovely time.
Speaker 2: I'll see you back here next week for a few
Speaker 2: more highlights that you might not have heard.