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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Mentor. I'm Mark Boris Friday Degeese and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Mentor. Thank you you brought your packages.

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Speaker 1: And look at that I did.

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Speaker 2: I brought my donuts with me. Wherever I go over

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Speaker 2: bring donuts.

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Speaker 1: Sala Donuts established twenty eighteen. Donuts over La Donuts, pink

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Speaker 1: boxes with well pink and white boxes. Pretty cool. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try it. I don't have a look because

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Speaker 1: I tell you what's interesting because I've got to eat

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Speaker 1: donuts today because I'm doing a special I don't know

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Speaker 1: whatever you call it. I have to go and do

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Speaker 1: an insulin duke glucose test on Friday. Today's Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: between here and Friday morning, I've got it all hit.

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Speaker 1: Between here and Thursday evening, I've got to eat a

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Speaker 1: consume a whole lot of carbo hydrates. And then what

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Speaker 1: I got to do is I got to stopped eating

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Speaker 1: carbo hydrates. And then when I go for the test

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Speaker 1: of the morning, they just like me with sugars just

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Speaker 1: to see how my insulin works. So and I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to work out how the hell I'm going to eat

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Speaker 1: and what happens? You walk in there like an angel,

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Speaker 1: just dropped out of heaven with a probably more carbohydrates

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Speaker 1: than of my whole life. It's amazing. So they're not

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Speaker 1: they're they're They're not empty, are they? Therefore they all

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Speaker 1: different flavors in here? Yes? Well we got Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what's a pick?

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Speaker 1: This is hectic, my god, Like I didn't know what's Wow,

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Speaker 1: I brought man this. Look at that can. I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: the cameras getting that ship like that is so good? Man,

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Speaker 1: Wow on this one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've had the pineapp if you

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Speaker 2: remember the pineapples from Yeah, I brought it.

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Speaker 1: That's so good, especially since I've got to spike up

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Speaker 1: with calves. This is mad.

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Speaker 2: I'm guaranteed with me, you will.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be How did they go on the outside?

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Speaker 1: What times you make these for? But like what time

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Speaker 1: you get up? What times you get up this morning?

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Speaker 2: Well, actually I didn't go to work this morning? Whoa

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Speaker 2: not all through the telephone? Like I told everyone what

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: With this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but today is like the first time I

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Speaker 2: didn't go in.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you go?

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Speaker 2: Because I need to sleep for this.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to sleep for this. You need donuts.

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Speaker 1: I did Sugar Man, sugar and cabs. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Let's get into it. So the owner,

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Speaker 1: you're the owner of l A Donuts and you're a

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Speaker 1: stand up comedian as well. Let's talk about let's talk

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Speaker 1: about what I want to talk about. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to start. There's so much to do here. Good unpack

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Speaker 1: it all. We'll do the donuts last. So tell me

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Speaker 1: a little bit about Freddy de Geese, Like, what's your deal.

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Speaker 1: You've got Lemanies background, Yes, yep, born in Lebanon or born.

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Speaker 2: I'm born in Australia. Grew up in Melbourne and.

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Speaker 1: Parents came from Lebanon. And see what in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh my dad came what like fifty five

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Speaker 2: years ago? What's that?

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Speaker 1: Fifty five years ago? So that's the nice sixties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sixties. Came on a boat from Greece.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from Greece, greekerties.

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Speaker 2: Came on a Greek ship, arrived to Australia and when

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Speaker 2: he arrived, he said it was like a small country

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Speaker 2: town and he regretted, there's nothing here. He was because

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Speaker 2: he lived in Germany and France, so he was like

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Speaker 2: he said, it was so like old and there was nothing.

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Speaker 1: Small population too, And he met your mom here.

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Speaker 2: No, my mom was in Lebanon and she was a

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Speaker 2: male order bride, right, so it was arranged. It was arranged,

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Speaker 2: and they never knew each other till she arrived.

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Speaker 1: And she regretted that old school, but old school. And

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Speaker 1: what about you your you're you're born in Melbourne, you said,

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Speaker 1: But like you, you're raised in Melbourne, your whole life

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Speaker 1: like your kid.

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Speaker 2: Yep, in Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: Went to Northcolte High School, Northcote. How many kids, brothers

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Speaker 2: I got a brother, got a sister. My brother was

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Speaker 2: a professional jockey.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, he could do with a few donuts, I bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I know he's big now.

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Speaker 1: Because he's had some donut. One of the influences on

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Speaker 1: you as a kid, because I like, it's funny. You know.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I went to school in

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Speaker 1: a camber and my best friend was a Lebanese kid

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Speaker 1: and and his name was Joe. And when I went

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Speaker 1: to his house in Belmore Road one time he invited

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Speaker 1: the factories were. I walked around them through the factory

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Speaker 1: up to see him, and his house was the only

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Speaker 1: house painted blue, was bright blue in the whole street.

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Speaker 1: Every other house is like no cream or brown or

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Speaker 1: something like that. His house is bright blue. And the

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Speaker 1: thing that I can never I'll never forget this for

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Speaker 1: just I can just I don't know what. It's sort

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Speaker 1: I never forgets. When I walked in his house, Joe's house,

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Speaker 1: I walked up the stairs because what had happened is

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Speaker 1: his dad had died and he was only fifteen. We're

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Speaker 1: only fifteen. And when I walked up the stairs, his

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Speaker 1: name was Joelis. When I walked up the stairs got

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Speaker 1: to his front door, his door was open. There was

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Speaker 1: a wire door there. And the smell of food. Now

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Speaker 1: I come from a Greek thing like I used to

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Speaker 1: our smells. I guess it doesn't nothing, but it was

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Speaker 1: quite a pungent smell, like a really strong aromatic sort

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Speaker 1: never got out of my nose. It's still there. It's

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Speaker 1: still there, you know, as I think about the day,

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Speaker 1: I can still sort of smell it. And because I

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Speaker 1: never really smelled Lebanese befood before or or Middle East food,

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Speaker 1: I probably I didn't have that luck.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have it because my neighbors were all Ausies,

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Speaker 2: were like the only Arabs around.

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Speaker 1: What about your family? They must have cooked like.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah they did, but my mom was too busy

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Speaker 2: working like that was only for event like but you

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Speaker 2: know people coming around, and we weren't. We didn't grow

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Speaker 2: up wealthy or anything like. You know, it was just

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Speaker 2: like big you know, people guests coming like it was

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Speaker 2: a big thing when people used to come. But nah,

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Speaker 2: we like we were brought up on like poor fit.

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Speaker 1: Well this he was a I mean, his dad was dead,

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Speaker 1: his mum. Joe ad to leave school actually to go

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Speaker 1: with him. I knew his little brother, Johnny, who were

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Speaker 1: coaching footy, and he had a sister called Teresa. It

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Speaker 1: was actually the first guy a girl ever took out.

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Speaker 1: I took her to Lunar Park. What the hell. I

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Speaker 1: was like sixteen or some of that, big time and

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Speaker 1: they were just a working class family like all of

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Speaker 1: us were around the area. But I often thought about

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Speaker 1: that many many years later, I wonder what the herbs

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Speaker 1: were that they were using that. No, none of my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's all the coriander and the galie

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Speaker 2: and like that's not our house is like every dish

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Speaker 2: is like coriander, garlic, mixed spice, you know, everything everything

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Speaker 2: that we use. Well, I'm from the North Elebanon, so

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Speaker 2: that's like that's we're influenced by Syria and they use

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Speaker 2: coriander and garlic, whereas the South Lebanon more tomato based.

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Speaker 2: Like it's weird, it's different food. But yeah, that's so.

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Speaker 1: Is it a thing in Lebanese families for Is food

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it's everything.

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Speaker 1: I think today it's a mobile phone. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: food's big.

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Speaker 2: Like now you drive around punch Bowl and that's your

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Speaker 2: old stumping ground, right, So you drive around punch Bowl

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Speaker 2: on weekends, you would think there's a fire, but it's not.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's having a barbecue, that's true.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's just smoke everywhere, like massive, and

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Speaker 2: it's just like everyone gets together. I think now more

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Speaker 2: than ever, food is bigger and people can have these

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Speaker 2: big days and you know, invite more people, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think food is bigger now than one.

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Speaker 1: When did Freda start to become not in a business sense,

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Speaker 1: but start to become more curious about food as opposed

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Speaker 1: to think about it.

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Speaker 2: I think it was. I remember the day, clear as day,

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Speaker 2: my sister walked into the kitchen and she said to

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Speaker 2: my dad, I'm going to be a chef. And I said, no,

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Speaker 2: you're not. I was thirteen and I said, no, you're not.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be a chef. You'd be something else.

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Speaker 2: And she said, right, I'll be a beauty therapist.

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Speaker 1: It was easy.

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Speaker 2: And she went down that road and I went as

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Speaker 2: soon as I hit like sixteen. I remember the day

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Speaker 2: before I finished VCE. Back then I went and got

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Speaker 2: an apprenticeship. Like the next day I was finishing school,

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Speaker 2: I was starting my apprenticeship.

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Speaker 1: So this is in Melbourne. So start where you start

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Speaker 1: you apprenticeship.

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Speaker 2: I started at this place. I was there for a month.

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Speaker 2: It was called the Lonely Planet.

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Speaker 1: I think, on brother, that's like a franchise.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it was just a cafe or

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Speaker 2: can't remember. Yeah, And it was I had two I

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Speaker 2: had an Algerian chef and I'm a Roccan chef and

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Speaker 2: they were always stoned, stone stoned, away, stoned, and it

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Speaker 2: was just everything we did was in slow mode. And

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, is this being a chef? And then this guy, Accustomer,

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Speaker 2: he sees me every morning and he goes, hey, you're

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Speaker 2: really good. Don't stay here, there's a job up the street. Okay,

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Speaker 2: get it. And then that was that Mario's on Brunswick Street, Fitzroy.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't know what I was getting into there.

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Speaker 2: And I applied and they said they weren't taking any

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Speaker 2: more applicants and I said, no, no, no, if you don't

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Speaker 2: hire me, you're going to regret it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to regret How are we talking about now?

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Speaker 2: I was sixteen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They said why, they go, why should we hire you

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Speaker 2: and not anyone else? I said, well, because you're going

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Speaker 2: to regret it. I'm not going to regret it. And

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Speaker 2: then they said, damn you're hired. And I got the job.

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Speaker 1: So what does it mean to take me through like

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Speaker 1: your tormented apprenticeship? Now? Yeah, so what does that? I

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Speaker 1: don't even what apprentice chef does, Like, what are they doing?

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Speaker 2: We do all the ship jobs, right, we chop all

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Speaker 2: the onions. I was there, I was opening the shop

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Speaker 2: in the morning. I was getting all the cakes ready.

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Speaker 2: I was the last one. I was the first one there,

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Speaker 2: last one to leave. But Mario, that were good, like

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Speaker 2: they had standards and morals and everything, ethics and everything

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Speaker 2: that goes with it. But yeah, you do all the

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Speaker 2: ship jobs, like you've got to pack away all the deliveries.

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Speaker 2: You've got to clean up after the chefs. You've got

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Speaker 2: to make sure it's everything.

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Speaker 1: So I guess, though Mario's Italian, I guess the restaurant

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Speaker 1: and you're probably cooking passes and that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't practicing. I was raised as a Muslim.

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Speaker 2: but then it was nothing. My dad used to drink beer,

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Speaker 1: They eat peanuts and Muslim, they eat peanuts. Peanuts are okay.

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Speaker 2: I didn't put it on till I was twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Something, and then you just yeah, they just you know, yeah, wog's.

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Speaker 1: Was it like a former discrimination because you had a scarf?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're scared back then what are you going

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Speaker 1: So, like you said, you worded some amazing restaurants, Like like,

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Speaker 2: I was in like, I don't know, it's just in

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Speaker 1: Well, And we described the scene that because that sounds

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Speaker 1: We're talking about what probably goes on inside the cafe,

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Speaker 2: After hours, like after hours, it's party starts, like in

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Speaker 1: I get I get it, so you'd rather remain confidential.

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Speaker 1: But I think the point being is that because I've

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Speaker 2: And you know every bar, you know every corner, you

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Speaker 1: Like you're yeah, you just all mates. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it's hectic, hectic, it's full on.

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Speaker 1: And did you get to a point where you thought,

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Speaker 2: What was I think the point was? Okay, so I

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Speaker 2: We're not letting have boyfriends growing up. All my friends

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Speaker 2: I just left.

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Speaker 1: So you left, left, left the scene. You also left Astralia.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you go? Going to America? Isn't it worse? Where

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Speaker 1: about some marrias you go to? Or New York?

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Speaker 2: God? I wish, but God knows what would happen if

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Speaker 2: I hated it. He was so straight, So I, oh, boring, Yeah, boring.

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Speaker 1: You didn't tell them what the hell? And where'd you go?

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Speaker 2: I went to Michigan. My aunt is in Michigan. She

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Speaker 1: So he turned on Michigan. Did she know you were coming?

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Speaker 2: She knew I was coming. She was wrapped and I

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Speaker 1: What do you mean different culture? Do you mean culture?

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Speaker 1: So like, what did what did you do here in Michigan?

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Speaker 2: Well, I illegally worked. I went for a really rich man.

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Speaker 1: He as a chef. I suppose no.

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think he just wanted someone that understood English, could

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Speaker 1: I think I reckon you could, but like you so

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Speaker 2: I was just like, because everything in America is like

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Speaker 2: taking money off people. Then he kept bringing me more work?

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Speaker 1: Can you do this?

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Speaker 2: Can you do that? And I just kept going yeah,

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Speaker 1: He just gave me more work and evolved into a payeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nowadays you've call a secretary.

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Speaker 2: But he taught me so much. So he taught me.

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Speaker 2: Probably why I'm like this today is probably because of him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so obviously working hard, but so where did that

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Speaker 2: Was it my parents?

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Speaker 1: That's your parents? My parents?

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Speaker 2: My dad work aholic. Moum worked very hard. After she

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Speaker 2: She was working like three jobs. My mom's part of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, So piece work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, house was full of socks and bears from Sheridan

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Speaker 1: Of to do the work at home. Yeah, she worked.

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Speaker 2: Well, she did too, Like she would work from home,

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Speaker 1: So I'll get off because I got a sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, watching your parents, like in your case, in

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Speaker 1: whatever she's doing. Like, how do you think you've ever

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Speaker 2: Opreat Yeah, I think I think about that stuff now

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Speaker 2: and I think, shit, the world's changed, and like these

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Speaker 2: it is, Like they built the fo pantation. Look at

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Speaker 2: how hard they worked. That's what burns me when I

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Speaker 2: think of stuff like that. I think the hard work

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Speaker 2: We all were in KFC at thirteen fourteen. My brother

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Speaker 1: Because like tasting back to what I just said about

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Speaker 1: and worked his butt off and killed it like and

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Speaker 1: that's pretty full on, Like you're not even going to

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Speaker 1: get to finish school mate. Yeah, that's pretty much a

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Speaker 1: to do whatever you have to do. And I think

436
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: what happens is kids see it and it gets stuck

437
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: in your brain and that becomes nine of your life.

438
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: It's normal. Normal. Yeah. So you were working from a

439
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: really young age. Yeah.

440
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thirty and like you can speak to

441
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: any friend to like any of my friends from high

442
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 2: school till now, they message me on Facebook. They go, well,

443
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: all we've known you to do is work, Like that's

444
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 2: how they've known I've always worked.

445
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: So this is probably why the dude in Michigan gave

446
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: you the job, because he could saw the more work

447
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: he gave you, the more things you're prepared. Oh my god.

448
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: I was working day and night. Yeah.

449
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: For him, I was like, I was doing stuff for

450
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 2: his kids, for his wife, getting the shopping.

451
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't stop. But is that a problem,

452
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: I do you think there can be an issue like

453
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: I just gone too much and sometimes it burnt out.

454
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 2: This is my problem. I can't say no.

455
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't worry, I'll help you. Don't worry.

456
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: I'll do this, Like I was helping her friends, like

457
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 2: start up his burger joint, like I'm going there half

458
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: tie and that's it. I made the promise, that made

459
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: the promise. I feel like I want to help everybody.

460
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: And then I break down and I go what was?

461
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: Well? How did and how does that look? Like? I've

462
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: only ever had one breakdown in my life, and not

463
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: only because because I got I end up catching a

464
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: virus and whilst I was working my masks off and

465
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I got so sick. I ended up in hospital because

466
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to because I didn't go and get

467
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: something for the virus or I end up start a

468
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: virus and some sort of win infection in my ches,

469
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: but I didn't do any about it, and and then

470
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: next thing I know, I was in hospital. How how

471
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: does a breakdown express itself to you? What do you

472
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: have them all the time? So like, what was it?

473
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: What's the deal?

474
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 2: I think it's just what's the deal? I have a

475
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: break down because no one wants to listen, you know,

476
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: just I don't know, just overwhelmed. I get to the

477
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: point I don't want anyone to talk to me. Just

478
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: had enough, Like.

479
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: And what would you you just go and lock yourself

480
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: away somewhere.

481
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, I break down at work, like I make

482
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: sure they all say like they all see it, like

483
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 2: I you know why because even my customers see it.

484
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: That's why everyone is so they see me in tears.

485
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: I'll see me yelling. I don't hide anything, and I

486
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: used to, but I don't need anymore because I'm like,

487
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: fuck it. Let them see what I'm going through, like

488
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: this business. These donuts, like you can come for me,

489
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: I will promise you a great donut. Leave my staff alone.

490
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: Like they're young, right, They've got a future in business

491
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: because you know, people go and attack your staff.

492
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: Shut up.

493
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're sixteen seventeen, they still got their whole

494
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: life ahead of them to go in the workforce. Then

495
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: you got these old bitches calling them up, yelling at them,

496
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: and I just lose it. It just kills me. And then

497
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: just and then just other staff issues like can't come in.

498
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: There's no work ethic anymore. So it's so difficult. Well,

499
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm sort of getting to because like

500
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 1: the work ethic of you and your parents relative to

501
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: the work ethic of the people that you have to

502
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: recruit to work for you, and also the etiquette of

503
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: people who are customers today, it can be the etiquette

504
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: used to be like customers sort of semi create that

505
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: environment where younger people, especially go, I'm gonna put up

506
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: with that ship, So why why am I bothery going

507
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: to work?

508
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: Yes?

509
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: Yes, And unfortunately with social media you have to paint

510
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: a pretty picture, like you have to make it look

511
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: like you're successful and everything's going great, and because you know,

512
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: like I know, but no one wants to buy Donna

513
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: from someone who's having a shit go and you know

514
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: it's yes, just about like governmental mind you you can

515
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: you but you can buy in comedy with all this

516
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: stuff too, don't you? Yes?

517
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: I do, I do, and look I every before I

518
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: used to get really offended when people used to say stuff.

519
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: Then I realized, oh, take their negativity and turn it

520
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: into something funny, because after you see before I used

521
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: to act straight away, not think. Now I like react, Yeah,

522
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: I react straight away. Then when I started to get

523
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: that information, I would sit on it and comedy brain

524
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: would step in, like a couple of days later, I'm like,

525
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: how dumb is that? And then I'd make a video

526
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: out of it and anyone would find it funny and

527
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: it just works.

528
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Was that like therapy?

529
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: For you though, Yes, so much like now I can

530
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: deal with the haters, you know, I can deal with

531
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: things that people say to me. I'm good now, like

532
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: bring it, I'm good.

533
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to go to the break because

534
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: I want to come back and talk to you about

535
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: the business itself. But before I do that, I want

536
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: to understand the moment you decided to get into La Donuts.

537
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: But before I go, where's that pineapple? One? Is that?

538
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: Which one?

539
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: Is that one?

540
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: Which one? Which one? One? Yep? Right, Because I'm going

541
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: to go a break and have a cup of tea

542
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: while we're having a break and have a little bite

543
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: of this m This is called carbar hydrate loading. Wow,

544
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: it tastes like it actually tastes like the pineapple ones

545
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: when I was a kid.

546
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna yeah, it's amazing. Right, you just took

547
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: a year off. You know you're only going to make

548
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: it to ninety nine.

549
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: Now I'll train it off. I'm back for a breaking.

550
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: My god, my guts are full. Thanks very much for Itdom.

551
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: But by the way, some of these that one there,

552
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: I really like to look at them. I'm gonna have

553
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: to show the audience this one, this one here is

554
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: the one that's got my tension that what the hell

555
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: is up?

556
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 2: Okay, it's an apple Fridda and that donut actually has

557
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: a cult following a yeah, apple Freda matter.

558
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: We might just take you through this. What's that one

559
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: that's a glaze? A glaze? Nothing in the middle.

560
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: I think in the middle we run out of the

561
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: ones with the holes today.

562
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: And what's this one that teller? Oh yeah, chocolate and

563
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: the homer And now, just for the sake of it,

564
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: we're going to go through all of these. So I'm

565
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: going to buoy you this ship out of everybody, but

566
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: I need to know. So you've got pisk Off, which one?

567
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: That one?

568
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: Wow? What what? What is? It's cream and some sort

569
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: of like a caramel.

570
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: You think off everything bisk Off jam.

571
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get that one, that

572
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: one fair. I love that rubber don canef I love it. Yeah,

573
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: let's not rubber down those. But let's got the last boxes.

574
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Let's got more variety. How many skews do you.

575
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Have put this?

576
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: Forty forty? Yeah? Well what the fuck? How come I

577
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: only got like three boxes? Anyway where we're doing this?

578
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: What's this?

579
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: Eminem?

580
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Eminem? You got a blah, yeah, that looks good.

581
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go.

582
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: Get Oh my god, they shouldn't have said that. Oh

583
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: really that good?

584
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Boston, it's just chocolate custody. You've got a briosh yep,

585
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: gay time, and then you got coffee and cream and

586
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 2: there's that chocolate Bueno?

587
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: Was that Buen?

588
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: Is it Borno Bueno?

589
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Wherever they say it? Project one hundred. Yeah, we have

590
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: to put aside just for today. Okay, right, yeah, my god, right,

591
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: sat Fred. Can you remember the moment that you got

592
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: sort of inspired and motivated to these things?

593
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one thing. Just outside this office

594
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: is where I named the business. I'll tell you that story. Really, yeah,

595
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: it was here, joking serious. I stood on that corner over.

596
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: There where the Indian restaurant is, Yeah, across.

597
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: Friday night, and I sat there and asked two hundred

598
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: people bullshit everyone that asks which name do you prefer this?

599
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: Donutty or La Donuts? You did just researching your survey there.

600
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I did comedy that night. And we all

601
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: walked out wall, standing out talking.

602
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: Where was the comedy shape around the corner of the netbook.

603
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: It was just way here. It's closed down now. And

604
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: then we it's mad. Yeah, and I just stood there

605
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: for like three hours, and.

606
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean we're partners or something like, yeah, a percentage

607
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: just now. So that's where that's where you did a

608
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: bit of research. La Donuts and everywhere. Se Donuts is

609
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: your name, but inspiration for it all? That tell me

610
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: the story.

611
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: I was at this food show and me and my

612
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: husband at the time walking around this food show, and

613
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: I had I wanted to go into catering. So I

614
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: was in fashion. I wanted to leave fashion go back

615
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: into food. We went to this food expo.

616
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Why did you want to be in food?

617
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Fashion got too hard, too competitive, too competitive, making no money.

618
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: It was just like you got to I've learned my lesson.

619
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: Don't never buy a business. Don't never go into business

620
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: where you've got to buy your inventory, outlay all your

621
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: money and pray to God you're going to sell it.

622
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. That never Yeah, that's too hard, Yeah, because you

623
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: get stuck with it. Yeah.

624
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: So I learned that very very quickly. So I want

625
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: to go back in food. I thought, I'll do catering.

626
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: I'll make a couple of grand a week, easy, you

627
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I went to this food expo,

628
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: tried to get tried to see what supplies are out there,

629
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: and then we saw this guy selling a donut machine

630
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: and we walked past him. We go, how much is that?

631
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, twenty four thousand. We're like, oh, yeah,

632
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: we'll come back. We're gonna buy it.

633
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: We walked off.

634
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: We started laughing. We couldn't even afford a bag of carrots.

635
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: And then then I went home that night and I

636
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: said to my mom, Oh, it's this food expo and

637
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: it's Rama done right. She goes, take me, take me tomorrow.

638
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: I said, all right, let's go. So we went Ramadan

639
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: being a period were you can't we can't eat, can't try.

640
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: It after hours, yeah, before the sun rise on that

641
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: sort of stuff.

642
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: So we went there, starving at a place that's got

643
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: samples everywhere, and then I take my mom, and my mom,

644
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: being the wag she is, is every display she sees,

645
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: she's taking food. So she came with containers and I'm like, stop,

646
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: it's embarrassing. We get to the donut guy again and

647
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: she takes two donuts, and she takes two donuts.

648
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, you're so embarrassing.

649
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: Stop that, and I walked off and I stopped talking

650
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: to her how to fight with it. We get home

651
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: that night and then we cut.

652
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: The donuts after it dark yet.

653
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: Yep, So we cut the donuts and then everyone gets

654
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: a piece of the donut. Then I eat it and

655
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: I went wow, and I sit on the couch. I

656
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: said that was so good. I'm thinking to myself. And

657
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: then my daughter said, Mum, that was the best donut

658
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: I've ever eaten.

659
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I agree.

660
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: And then I went that night and I slept. I

661
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: had a dream of this nord donut. I made a

662
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: donut that was gnrd, like a like a Lebanese suite.

663
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: I incorporated incorporated it into a donut. I said to Mysan,

664
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: what do you think should I do it? He goes,

665
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: what an idea? So I started making donuts. The next

666
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: day my bin started to fill up.

667
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: I started.

668
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: I was testing and I just couldn't work it out.

669
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: Just to know how to do it anyway, I started.

670
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: I started going through like cake Boss, watching all of

671
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: his videos, and I realized every dessert place I watched

672
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: in America they had this one bucket was red and white.

673
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: So I he stopped the I recorded it.

674
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: I paused it.

675
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: I zoomed in and got the name of that bucket

676
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: and I called them in America. They said, oh, we'll

677
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: get one of our sales reps to call you. He

678
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: was an Aussie dude and he's in charge of Asia.

679
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

680
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, I'm coming to Australia next week.

681
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: He goes, I'll come see you. I said, all right.

682
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: You know, he couldn't come see me. He goes, look,

683
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm too busy. But hey, we're doing a course up

684
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: in America. Do you want to come for three days?

685
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: And he goes, just come, And I said all right,

686
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: so booked. I said to Mars, can we afford it?

687
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: I need a two and a half grand ago. So

688
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: we ended up. I ended up going and I did

689
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: this course for three days. You know, that guy that

690
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: was supposed to meet me ended up losing his passport

691
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 2: and he couldn't go do the course he was supposed

692
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: to teach us. He said, they got another guy out

693
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: of retirement. He was ninety and he's the granddaddy of donuts.

694
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: So he beat the godfather.

695
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: The godfather right, so he took us, and he took

696
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: me under his wing and everyone else with another instructor

697
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: and he had a Trump hat on.

698
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Oh Trump, like Donald Trump, Yeah, Donald Trump hat.

699
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: And when we're standing in front of him, I fuck,

700
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: this guy's gonna hate me and all my scaff And

701
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: there was another Ossie dude with me and a Vietnamese

702
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: dude and then he goes he looks at me and

703
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: he goes, O'll take you and the rest can go

704
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: with someone else.

705
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: I went fuck, awesome, awesome.

706
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, he taught me so much, taught me everything. And

707
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: he goes, oh, you want to learn, I'm going to

708
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: teach you.

709
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: Anyway.

710
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: After the course finished, he says to me, can you

711
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: come to the office tomorrow at four am?

712
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: Four am?

713
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, just be here at four am. I said,

714
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: all right, And I'm driving downtown LA. It's all industrial

715
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: four o'clock in the morning. And I get there and

716
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: there's no one and then I walk in. He waits

717
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: for me. It takes me in the office.

718
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Anyway.

719
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: He walks through factories and factories and the doors start opening.

720
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: You see Crispy Kreams all this product there, and Dunk

721
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: and Dana and products there, and it was like Charlie

722
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: and the chocolate factory, right and then I walk in

723
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: this office four o'clock in the morning. There's an oval

724
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: office table that fits like twenty people that hadn't been renovated.

725
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: Since the sixties.

726
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: Every seat was full of people in suits.

727
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: No four am, four am.

728
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: And then I sit on the table. They're like, well, Fred,

729
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: to tell us about your experience. I see they're telling

730
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: all these people about my experience.

731
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: And then he said to me.

732
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: He goes, so, Frida, what are you going to do

733
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: now that you're now how to make donuts? I said,

734
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go open Australia's first American

735
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: donut bakery. And he stands up and he taps me

736
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: on the shoulder and he was like six foot something.

737
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: He goes, well, you're going to be one very rich lady.

738
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: Good luck, and he left into the sunsets. Never saw

739
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: him again, and that was it. I came back to

740
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: Australia one week later. I rented that shop and I

741
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: started making.

742
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Don in Sydney. So you started making donuts. But there's

743
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going with it. So you've got

744
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: you got, you got you know you had. First off,

745
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: you've got to have to build your Instagram pages and

746
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: all your it just boomed. But how did it all

747
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: happen all at once? Like you got La Donuts Official,

748
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: that's Facebook, l L dot A Donuts that's you're Insta,

749
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: and you've got La Donuts dot com dot you that's

750
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: your website. Yeah, I think I'm to have a better

751
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: all that stuff.

752
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think what happened was I was just posting.

753
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: I wasn't very good at social media, even in the

754
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: fashion and so I just started posting photos.

755
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: But good for Instagram photographs.

756
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, photographs at that time. But then what really set

757
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: it off? We like, we opened this shop. The first

758
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: day we opened, we got fourteen orders on.

759
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: Uber.

760
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: Then people started to call us, going that was the

761
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: best tonut I've ever eaten. And my husband at the time,

762
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: I'm divorced now, he said, he guess that's odd. He

763
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: goes all calling tongues how good it is? OK, Well,

764
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: isn't there any other donuts out there? Anyway? So we'll

765
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: like it just started to word of mouth, word of mouth.

766
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: But then once set it off, we started to sell out.

767
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't keep up. I couldn't keep up, like cutting

768
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: the donuts out my hand. I had staff for starting

769
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: to get more staff and we couldn't keep up. We're

770
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: selling out. So this person writes a review and says,

771
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: you sold out. What a stupid business. You don't know

772
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: how to run a business. Something along those lines.

773
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: They must have really wanted a donut.

774
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they must have wanted a donut. And then so

775
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: I did this video and I said, I just want

776
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: to apologize to everyone that missed out on a dona

777
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: on the weekends. I just want to show you what

778
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: you's missed. And then I took a bite of a

779
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: doughnut and said, fuck, that's good. It went viral and

780
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: then that was it. So people were like, yeah, so

781
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: unprofessional Robby. Others were like, you're so funny in there.

782
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: There's something in that. That's a very interesting point you

783
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: just made, because sometimes you got to do something to

784
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: build a brand or to build a presence you go to.

785
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: You can't sort of be too sanitized and you know,

786
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: worry about what could were going to say. If you

787
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: get fifty percent of the audience loves you, fifty percent

788
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: hate you, you did pretty good.

789
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they who cares. It's become like, look, people

790
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: hate McDonald's and they still go to McDonald's. Yeah, people

791
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: hate cay See they do it. You didn't put how

792
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: many times you will go to McDonald seven days a

793
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: week and probably seventy percent of that time they'll miss

794
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: salt on your chips, and you'll still go.

795
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: You'll go back.

796
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: So it was the point of I hate that woman,

797
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: but her donuts are good. Like it's got to the

798
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: point where people send in family because they don't want

799
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: to go, but they still want the donut.

800
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: And they still eat something too, by the way, they

801
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: still eat it. Yeah, or you or you'll get it

802
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: if you like on the McDonald's McDonald's example, you will

803
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: go to McDonald's just say I'm not going to have it.

804
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: You get it for the kids or something like that.

805
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: But then they come out you started eating some of

806
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: the tune to give us a bite. Yeah, and because

807
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: you can't resist it, that's right, you just can't resist it.

808
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: Or alternately, probably the better way putting us we're so

809
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: damn weak that we can't control our urges. That's really important.

810
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: How much of this, how much of this do you

811
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: rely on impulsive behavior that people do, say a Saturday morning,

812
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: I've got to hangover, I just got to have some donuts.

813
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: Oh all the time. Yeah, like it's a thing. Yeah,

814
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: it's massive thing. People will be like starting my diets.

815
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't handle it. I still came for a donut.

816
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

817
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: People are blaming me for their weight game everywhere I go.

818
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Well that works, I mean your systems working. Yeah, So

819
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: just give me a bit of an understand about how

820
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: long you've been doing the size of the business, et cetera.

821
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: What you're doing. So, how many outlets, how often do.

822
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: You do it all? We're out on ours. So I

823
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: just opened we ring them all yep. And that was

824
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: a big step.

825
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: And what does that mean? Like that's like a kiosk

826
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: within Ring Moon.

827
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: Inside a company called Farmer's Fresh yep. So we're inside there.

828
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: It's got a beautiful big stand. It's the same size

829
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: as Beverly Hills. So that's easy to run. That's just

830
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 2: like people just order and go to the register.

831
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: Yep.

832
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: So that's why I took that because it's much easier

833
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: to run.

834
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: So they just sent it. Someone really just handed stuff

835
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: out and you get or you go to a stock it. Yes,

836
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: and you have a factory where you manufactor everything.

837
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just took We moved our production out of

838
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. And now we're in Tarrent Point, which is

839
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: an eight hundred and fifty square meter facility.

840
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: That's a big, big floor space.

841
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a food, it's already food. It's a food

842
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: premises already which we plan to be has to approved

843
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: to be able to sell interstate international. The mix the

844
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: donut itself is my own recipe.

845
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: Or each of the donuts.

846
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, even the dough itself. So we don't use any

847
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: premixes or it's made of real products, very clean and

848
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: in a week's time we're probably going to be soy free,

849
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: completely out of the business free.

850
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: What do you mean, no soy in our business at all.

851
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: So no scroy flowers in the oils, nothing completely free

852
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: of soy, which is something I want to achieve.

853
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Yep. I don't think so is very good for us

854
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: and your outlets. See what about some Beverly.

855
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: Hills were you We're on King George's Road just before

856
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: the M five give the old aquarium.

857
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: Because there used to be a chemistry. My dad hes

858
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: tolp my.

859
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Dad before before it's after Morefields Road.

860
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: I know it is. Yeah, yeah, I actually got back

861
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: to Regina the Charlie up there up the top there,

862
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: and then obviously the girls school, Beverly Hills Girls.

863
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: That's that way. You've got to come back about this. Yeah,

864
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: just before the M five there was there was you

865
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: might reckon, remember a big fruit shop.

866
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: I remember Morefields Road going down to the golf course. Yeah.

867
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Morefields Road just on the corner.

868
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: There's like a there's a school there up there on the.

869
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: Corner, Beverly Hills North, across the road.

870
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, across the road. Yeah, I know it is. So

871
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: your your outlet was there or your factory.

872
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we used to produce out of there at

873
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: my shop still there, but we outgrew that.

874
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: We outgrewed that a year ago. Was it the bottom

875
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: of Shot Revenue, Yeah, across and shoulder, Yeah, I remember it.

876
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: I remember well. I used to walk up there the bridge. Yeah,

877
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: I used to walk up There wasn't a bridge that

878
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: when I was going up. But anyway, but I know

879
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: the area really well. And Beverly Hills, by the way,

880
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: is not like bever Hills in Los Angeles. It's a

881
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: different sort of Beverly Hills. And so you've moved out

882
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: of there and do the factory in Tarrent Point is

883
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: where your outlets?

884
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: So you're so I've got Beverly Hills, were Ringer more

885
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: Tarer Points going to now be.

886
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: Another outlet online? We have online as well, and so

887
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: how do you do online? So how does it get

888
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: delivered online?

889
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: Is a real struggle because it's trying to keep the

890
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: quality We've got humidity. Unless I add more preserved, it

891
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: is more stabilized into my donut. I can make it

892
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: last and make it go all the way to America.

893
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: But I refuse that. I don't want to.

894
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to make the doughnut bad. So yeah,

895
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: it's just like we just deliver locally around thirty kilometers

896
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: from the store.

897
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: And how many people you employing? Now?

898
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: We got around twenty four?

899
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: Wow, and what are your plans? Tell me what your

900
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: plans are?

901
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: My plans is to bring out so the l a

902
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: donut mix will be able to We're going to package

903
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: the mix and people will be able to make it

904
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: at home.

905
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: Son to give us one of those red white red

906
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: those bucket things that you were talking about earlier on

907
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: are we.

908
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: Going to They'll be in a bag. Let me a

909
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: nice branded bag. So hopefully that because I've got so

910
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: many followers. I think people people want La donuts all

911
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: over Australia and I can't do it. So you're probably

912
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: looking at me like going, why you can I don't

913
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: want to do it. I just okay, we'll talk about

914
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: that another day. Exactly what you're thinking.

915
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: It's too crazy.

916
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: It's such a big job. Like it's not like Krispy

917
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Krean's with the donuts are just shooting out of this machine.

918
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: It's actually physical labor and it's a lot of work.

919
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: And I just think to myself, there's no people in

920
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: Australia that can do this, like they don't want to

921
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: do it.

922
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, people don't want to do it too labor intensive. Yeah,

923
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: but what about like immigrants like coming here?

924
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: Is that they get smart too fast?

925
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it's really yeah, yeah, like there's too many other

926
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: opportunities for them.

927
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, they all want to go it it

928
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: tea really yeah.

929
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: So like where are your workers coming from? So how

930
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: do you have? You?

931
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: Please? Bangladesh, Pakistan, I've got few, Aussi's, Sri Lanka. Yeah,

932
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: it's just but they don't last. They look might have

933
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: been with you for a long time. But yeah, it's

934
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: just it's too tiring. Yeah, they don't last.

935
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not only tiring for you, but you mean

936
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: tiring for them because it's labor intensive. Yeah yeah.

937
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: And people I don't know, they've just got choices now

938
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: and they just don't want to do it.

939
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Where's where's people like your mum and my parents gone?

940
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Like the people who would have socks all around the

941
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: house and the sheets everywhere. I mean, I'll their lifetime.

942
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: Where are those.

943
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: I'll tell you my I truly believe the parents have

944
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: raised Look, the immigrants that are coming still have that mentality,

945
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: but the kids in Australia do not, because I feel

946
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: like parents have softened their children. Oh that's okay, darling.

947
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: Is that what he said to you? Oh no, don't

948
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: take that quit.

949
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean.

950
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: They're not building strong kids. They're building these weak assed

951
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: children that cry at a drop of a hat.

952
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: And have someone to run to all the time.

953
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it's ridiculous. You are not setting that

954
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: child to survive. You're setting up that child to fail.

955
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: Like my kid says something to me and winges about someone.

956
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: I don't shut up, get over it. Like the world is.

957
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: Not all milk and honey.

958
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I mean, like raise your

959
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: child as if you do not exist because you're not

960
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: always going to be here. And they're not strong, they're

961
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: just they're so sensitive.

962
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: But and then what do you think that means for

963
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: because you know business people startups have to be tough, yes, resilient.

964
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: What do you think that says then for the future

965
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: of Australia for our business startup environment, Like you know,

966
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: because a lot of people want to do it because

967
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: they think it is all fantastic, lots of money and

968
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: I've got a whole little lot of independence. I have

969
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: holidays whenever I feel like it. What do you think

970
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: that says to you in terms of the survivability of

971
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: our you know, our Australian small business economy. When in

972
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: terms of new business owners.

973
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: Look, I think the new business owners that are coming

974
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: out now, they're not they're not in labor intensive jobs.

975
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: They're trying to find they're doing they're doing they're influencing easy.

976
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: I've seen influencers go from making money from commercials and

977
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: stuff like that, products, you know, promotions, and then that

978
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: goes dry and going into only fans because it's easy.

979
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: So that's there that people are looking at Oh, I

980
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: might as well just go into becoming an influencer or

981
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: selling stuff online, or they become influencers, then they find

982
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: a product to sell. There's the hospitality, mechanics, plumbing industry.

983
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: They're all going to suffer a lot, like You're not

984
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: going to be able to find it's not going to

985
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: keep building. I feel like people just can't do it.

986
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: Do you think that might be slightly off topic, but

987
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: do you think that might be one of the reasons why,

988
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, our Reserve Bank governor and the Treasurer and

989
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: a whole lot of other people start continually talking about

990
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: Australia's lack of productivity compared to say America, where we

991
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: just Australian Australian working community. Our productivity measurements have gone

992
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: backwards over the last twenty years and continue to go backwards.

993
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: We are less productive, but we want more money. So

994
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: we say, I want a bigger wage, but I'm not

995
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: prepared to work harder.

996
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but the government set us up for that.

997
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah they did that. They did that. They did that

998
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: in the schools.

999
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: They because it's right through the schools too.

1000
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they did that. What's happened now is a

1001
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: result of what they taught our kids. You know, they

1002
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: softened our children. They make the parents even wrong. They're right,

1003
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: the teachers are right. You know how many arguments I've

1004
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: had with teachers. All of my kids have gone to

1005
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: school and taken lollies from the cupboard and sold it

1006
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: at school. And I've been pulled up every time because

1007
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 2: my kids are making money. Oh, they're taking money away

1008
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: from the canteen. Said, but he's an entrepreneur. He's making money.

1009
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: If you want to sell lolly's's going to sell one,

1010
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1011
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: But they encourage it.

1012
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no they don't.

1013
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: That's bad. How is that bad?

1014
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? So it's like, I

1015
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: don't know.

1016
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Because they're trying to make everyone equal the same. Because

1017
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: it's funny, you should say, because he reminded me when

1018
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: I was in the year I was thirteen, So I

1019
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: was a year you went. I went to John's like Kember, oh,

1020
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: right right next to the girls school there, and and

1021
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: but I was living in punch By all the time,

1022
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: and I started making toffees. My mom showed me how

1023
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: to make toffees bold water and sugar, basically a bit

1024
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: of a bit of flavor, and I start and you

1025
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: put them in their little cupcake things. You needs to

1026
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: take it in a tin, take them school and sell them.

1027
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: And other kids started doing it, started copying me, and

1028
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: we started having competition. We started trying who could sell

1029
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: them the cheapest, and it was a bit of a thing,

1030
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: and no one ever stopped us. Now I forget it.

1031
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: So you can't do that sort of stuff you do.

1032
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: You can't do it anymore. You can't do it at all.

1033
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: Like every child of mine has been told off.

1034
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: What the hell?

1035
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't teach him anything about money finances, they

1036
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: teach What they teach them is if if Joe says

1037
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: something to you, how you should react. I don't like that.

1038
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: Can you not talk to me like that?

1039
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Who talks like that?

1040
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: In the real world?

1041
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: That shit doesn't happen.

1042
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

1043
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You're teaching that person not

1044
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: to be able to communicate.

1045
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: Well, you're building wrong expectations so that they're not because

1046
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: they're going to be disappointed, they're going to get hurt.

1047
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: But then before I go, I just want one more thing.

1048
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: You're a stand up comedy ca me stand up? I

1049
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: can sort of see why you would do that, because

1050
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: you naturally are funny and you naturally sort of see

1051
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: the funny side of those things, and you don't give

1052
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: a shit about what you say either, so you don't

1053
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: do When you do stand up comedy, you're still doing it.

1054
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I do it all the time. And why

1055
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: do you do it? You do it because it's just

1056
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: like your hobby or my outlet.

1057
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: Now, like that's well, my frustration goes out. It's like

1058
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: so liberating to go out there and make jokes about

1059
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: stuff that you really want to. Like, you can't say

1060
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 2: it's normal people because they get offended. But on stage

1061
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: you can say whatever you want. Yeah, and it's so

1062
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: funny that you can say this stuff and the whole

1063
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: room just laugh.

1064
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Even if they're against the concept, they'll still laugh because no,

1065
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: they laugh because the other person's laughing. You think that's

1066
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: what it is.

1067
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because people don't want to look dumb if

1068
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: they don't laugh. Even if they don't get the joke

1069
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: and everyone's laughing, they start laughing, so that look like

1070
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: they're dumb.

1071
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: As a person on stage controlling the room, you can

1072
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: see that, Oh yeah, is it all time? What does

1073
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: that make you feel as you think, wow, that's cool, like,

1074
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I can manipulate an audience. Can you manipulate

1075
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: an audience? Oh yeah, I'm not that good.

1076
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: I can do a little bit, but there's other comedians

1077
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: out there that are amazing at it.

1078
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: And how often do you do your shows?

1079
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: Probably around three or four times a week.

1080
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: I tried three times a week, yes, on top of

1081
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: all this? Yes, And what's time you get up in

1082
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: the morning? Usually to run midnight? I start midnight, yes

1083
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: see like an old school baker.

1084
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: Yes, we're back at midnight.

1085
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: Why midnight? Like it takes that long to get everything

1086
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: ready for the shipping out.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, because it's now we've got delivery. We're going

1088
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: to count delivery and then packing and loading these trolleys

1089
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: and putting it in the truck and getting him. Got

1090
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: to count traffic and all these things I didn't think of.

1091
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: And what's doing to go to bed? Then?

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00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: Oh, sometimes I don't even go to bed, Like Monday,

1093
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: I had an hour sleep. But I'm lucky. I'm the owner,

1094
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: so I get to like, if I don't want to

1095
00:50:59,000 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 2: go to work today.

1096
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can sort of backfill. Yeah,

1097
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: you can sort of saying sleep on Monday, so today

1098
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: I'll do it easier, and I try and get eight

1099
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: hours as much as I can now, you know, and

1100
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: he kids working in it. Yeah.

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00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: My daughter's become a pastry chef, so she graduates in

1102
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: a few months. My son's already working there, and he's

1103
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: now working alongside the chef and the baker, trying to

1104
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: learn everything. He doesn't want to go to school. He

1105
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: just wants to work.

1106
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's ready to leave school. Yeah, he's left, he's left.

1107
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I've got a thirteen year old. He

1108
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: will end up being in there. He'll probably run the

1109
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: whole company.

1110
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, that's that style of kid.

1111
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to run the whole show. And then

1112
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: I got a nine year old that I don't know

1113
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: what she's going to do. She'll stand there, maker run laugh.

1114
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: That's good enough. That's good enough. You need you need comedy, man,

1115
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: like your new comedy. Well, I love your energy. It's

1116
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: been absolutely awesome. Thanks very much for the gifts. By

1117
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: the way, it couldn't have come in a bit on

1118
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: a better week. Ordinarily, always say, as you know, I'm

1119
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: doing pro but but I'm going to say I should

1120
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: say it's about projet one hundred. For me, it's not

1121
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: about saying, oh, you can't have this new kind of that.

1122
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: It's for me it's saying, how do I have something?

1123
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: Because you can't go through your life not rewarding yourself.

1124
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: You can't.

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00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, look, you've got to have the good

1126
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: donuts and there's bad donuts.

1127
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: But even if there's chocolate, it doesn't matter. You've got

1128
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: to like you have a little bit, a little bit

1129
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: correct and don't make that become your diet. But equally

1130
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: you've got to do all the other stuff to help

1131
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: balance this thing. And that's sort of approject one hundreds

1132
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: all about it is about some moderation and some sensibility,

1133
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: some intellect around it, understanding things. But also you go

1134
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: through your life to deny yourself you can. Why do

1135
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: you want to live to one hundred? I don't want

1136
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: to live one hundred necessarily. I want to see if

1137
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: I can live to one hundred. This is an experiment.

1138
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: It's an experiment for me to see what does it

1139
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: take for someone like me to live a hundred. Now

1140
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a medical doctor. I don't have or access

1141
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: to all these still it is all these other dudes

1142
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: around the world to keep talking about. I'm not spending

1143
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: too million bucks a year on whatever those guys are

1144
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: doing themselves, injected injecting themselves, whatever they do. I don't

1145
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. I'm trying to look at this

1146
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: for the average bloke, an average woman to some extentent

1147
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: on my bloke. So I can't do it from any

1148
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: other point the average bloke. What have I got to

1149
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: do to live my best optimal physical life? And you know,

1150
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: I would like to be one hundred for one reason.

1151
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: One reason alone is because I know that I've got

1152
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: I won't have all my grandkids grown up until you've calculated.

1153
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: I've done a calculation, So like two of my sons

1154
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: don't have any kids, and they might not have any

1155
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: kids in the next five years, but let's say they

1156
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: have three kids over after five years, then I'd like

1157
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: to see them more turn twenty.

1158
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I hope you get there. I just want

1159
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: to hopefully it's the next forty something.

1160
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Forty years probably thirty thirty years.

1161
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: Thirty years are amazing for you. I'm stronger and healthier.

1162
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And I know when that comes

1163
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: from a person from the region of the world that

1164
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: your family comes from that actually has quite a lot

1165
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: of meaning. Yes, long life, yes, and you know many years.

1166
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: We say that when we say happy birthday.

1167
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Same as the Greek, you're saying many years chronio, which

1168
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: means many years. So many years is quite a significant wish.

1169
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, appreciate, thanks for you. That was awesome.

1170
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: LA donuts get them India.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.