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Speaker 1: Are you to get it? It's a podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, Lizzie here, I'm the social media producer for Fitzie,

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Speaker 2: Whipper and Kate and welcome to our summer podcast on

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Speaker 2: the Fitzie Whipper with Kate Richie Podcast episode special bonus

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Speaker 2: episode for you. This is called the Social Network Edition.

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Speaker 1: Where I'm going to be taking you through some of.

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Speaker 2: Our biggest moments on social media this year that you

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Speaker 2: would have seen on our Instagram, Facebook or TikTok. The

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Speaker 2: second episode of the Social Network Edition is all about

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Speaker 2: Marina Abramovich. Now, when Whipper first came to me with

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Speaker 2: this idea to post as a social video, I have

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Speaker 2: to say I wasn't super intrigued, but he proved me wrong,

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Speaker 2: as he always does and is very happy to do

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Speaker 2: to anyone who will listen. Marina is an artist who

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Speaker 2: did a very emotional, touching piece of art with her

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Speaker 2: now X, I'm gonna say Yule or Ula don't come

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Speaker 2: for me art fans on the Internet. But this video

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Speaker 2: went also super viral on all of our socials with people.

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Speaker 2: We still have people resharing this video to this day,

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Speaker 2: So take a listen. Fitzi and WEP with.

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Speaker 3: Kate Richie on nov My favorite topic, love guys. Now.

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Speaker 3: I touched on this story the other day and I

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Speaker 3: kind of danced around it with not a lot of information.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to revisit and sort of fill in some

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Speaker 3: gaps I may have left in the story that I

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Speaker 3: was telling. It's about the artist Marina Abramovich and her

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Speaker 3: man U lay I think his name is. I think

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Speaker 3: that's how pronounce it, The oil of you life. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's right. He made that just after he did Doctor

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Speaker 3: Luyin's Private Formula and a couple of the other ones.

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Speaker 4: It's got beautiful stuff for skin, beautiful skid out it out.

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Speaker 3: So they were sort of an active couple in the

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Speaker 3: art scene, and they were dating for a solid twelve years.

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Speaker 3: Fitz I was telling this story about when they broke

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Speaker 3: up for the last time. As part of an art piece,

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Speaker 3: they decided to walk the Wall of China, the Great

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Speaker 3: Wall of China, and meet in the middle to say

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Speaker 3: goodbye one last time. It's very dramatic, it is. And

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Speaker 3: you were saying, well, how long does that take? How

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Speaker 3: far big is the Great Wall?

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Speaker 5: Child, Well, it shouldn't matter how long it takes if

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Speaker 5: it's an important moment.

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Speaker 1: In life like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, seeing text messages so fishing enough. That's not art, mate,

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I romantic.

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Speaker 3: I'll stop that big heart of yours right there, Ryan Jones,

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Speaker 3: because that is not art. It was called the Lovers.

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Speaker 6: Have a listen The Lovers, in which Marina and Uli

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Speaker 6: walked the Great Wall of China was an epic. The

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Speaker 6: three months process of walking towards each other, very simple,

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Speaker 1: This was the last of their relation works, and of

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Speaker 1: course the way the Great Wall Walk ended was with

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Speaker 3: It was quite beautiful because she carried a flag, a

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Speaker 3: big blue flag, and he carried a big red flag

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Speaker 3: as they treked three months, three months till they met.

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Speaker 1: In the middle, be somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you want to do more once you actually met

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Speaker 5: The decision, I mean, what was the three month walk,

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Speaker 5: contemplation and the bill.

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Speaker 3: It's a consideration of how far they'd each come as individuals,

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Speaker 3: and then meeting one last final time in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you've bought into this.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: You did show me a bit of it.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, had to all the way back to Kidney Cars.

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Speaker 1: One of them, no Ubers on the Great Wall.

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Speaker 3: Should have parked closer to the centerpoint, unfortunately, and you

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Speaker 3: wouldn't believe the parking, finding it bloody, throw the roof

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Speaker 3: the figure being towed. Anyway, you got his car back

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Speaker 3: at the end. Let's move on to the next part

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Speaker 3: because this is the more interesting part. And we were

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Speaker 3: watching this footage the other day. If you can bring

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Speaker 3: the Artist in Present. So the idea was that Marina

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Speaker 3: sat in a museum and then she invited everybody to

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Speaker 3: come and sit in front of her. You've got a minute.

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Speaker 3: You got a minute to look at her, and they

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Speaker 3: what where you were from, you could do this. What

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Speaker 3: I think a show on the ABC did a similar

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Speaker 3: And the story goes that these guys hadn't seen each

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Speaker 3: other for around ten years. He sits down. What's beautiful

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Speaker 3: So she sees him sitting in the chair and bursts

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Speaker 5: Slowly, though not in a dramatic not in a dreamtic, emotional.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, realizing the moment of what they farewelled, what they

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Speaker 3: God, he's and now it's a bit serious, isn't he? Well,

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Speaker 3: this is the thing. You sat there and kept eye

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Speaker 3: contact with Marina for that one minute. What was interesting?

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Speaker 3: Afterwards she reaches across the table, breaks all the rules

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Speaker 3: then gets up, his minute is done, and he walks

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Speaker 3: next person to look into their eyes?

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Speaker 1: Is that it?

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Speaker 3: That is? It?

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Speaker 1: Was this set up?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't Richie. He then does to be

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Speaker 3: set up? Ule died He didn't he did? When what what? What? What?

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Speaker 3: Got hit by a bus on the way and not

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Speaker 3: on the same days walking back to give his skink.

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Speaker 3: He was pretty heavy on the gasp. He fell off

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Speaker 3: the wall going back to get his car. No, he

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Speaker 5: He was so emotional and so know it proves that

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Speaker 5: you don't need words to communicate.

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Speaker 3: So true, I mean of radio. But I'm kind of

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Speaker 3: running out of wards at the moment. It's a story, but.

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Speaker 4: It's a bigger few to her though, isn't it, Because

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Speaker 4: it's basically he's gone to the effort to rock up.

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Speaker 4: She's crying her eyes out, going, oh my gosh, you're back.

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Speaker 4: And then he leaves and just goes, this is what

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Speaker 4: you could have had You didn't have to scale the

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Speaker 3: You stuff this. He just didn't have to hook up

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Speaker 3: with Brian, you idiot. Apparently he had a bit of

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Speaker 3: a thing for the lead is why they actually separated. Really,

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Speaker 3: then she started getting it on with one of his mates.

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Speaker 3: I'm not making that up.

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Speaker 1: You are making it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not making that up.

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Speaker 1: Look at her like head in her hands as he.

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Speaker 3: As he walks away.

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Speaker 1: He leaves the room. She's regrouping because she's going to

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Speaker 1: have another person to stare into.

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Speaker 3: One a Minute's not another guy that she's anyway, Here's

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Speaker 3: what I want to do, Here's what I want to

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Speaker 3: tell you. You finally got to it. Why do you

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Speaker 3: want to see your old flame one more time?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 3: What is it? What is is it?

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Speaker 1: The power of something burning inside of you?

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Speaker 3: Is there is there power justin looking into each other's

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Speaker 3: eyes to recognize what you went through? Is their unanswered questions?

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Speaker 1: Are you allowed to talk to them? So we're not

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to talk to them version. I think most

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Speaker 3: people leave a relationship with not getting a chance to

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Speaker 3: share their side of the story, maybe or wondering why

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Speaker 5: What decisions they made. I also do think, though, that

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Speaker 5: if you have spent a period of time apart and

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Speaker 5: you have processed a lot of why you aren't together anymore,

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Speaker 5: things can are allowed to remain unanswered. You don't need

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Speaker 5: all the answers. And I think sometimes one of our

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Speaker 5: downs is looking to the person who you're not with

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Speaker 5: anymore for the answers, because guess what, guys, the answer

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Speaker 5: is within you.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's really deep and sort.

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Speaker 1: Of ruined your boner no one, no one.

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Speaker 5: The reason why you broke up with someone is probably

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Speaker 5: because they couldn't answer certain things for you. And then,

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Speaker 5: if you like, seriously move forward.

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Speaker 3: Don't you want to say, though, Hey, did you see

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Speaker 3: your life with me? Did you see us as a

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Speaker 3: sixty year old couple? Your headspace there? That's you, whipper.

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Speaker 4: You've always been like that, and that's why you had

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Speaker 4: such close relationships with your first partners. And you talk

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Speaker 4: couldn't think of anything worse.

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Speaker 1: You're looking for closure, moving from.

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Speaker 3: Lover to friendship is what fits is talking about. As

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Speaker 3: I'm mates with X's some of them, yes, but I

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Speaker 4: You were in love with some of them.

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Speaker 3: The heavier ones I'm not close with absolutely not, because.

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Speaker 1: It was too much and problematic, too.

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Speaker 3: Much to then maintain a normal friendship that happens in relationships.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk to Emma and clavally?

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Speaker 7: Hi guy, thanks.

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Speaker 3: For calling on what is a bit of a heavier topic.

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Speaker 3: Love to know why you'd want to see your old

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Speaker 3: flame just one more time.

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Speaker 7: I'd like to see the guy that I lost my

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Speaker 7: virginity through. Actually, when I was young and I'd like

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Speaker 7: to look into his eyes and I'd like to ask

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Speaker 7: him why he was so mean to me?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Closure on that, Imma, do you think was their love

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Speaker 4: there in your eyes? And I know you probably would

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Speaker 4: have been young, but was their love in your eyes?

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Speaker 7: I think so? Yes, I think so, but I couldn't.

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Speaker 7: He was just mean, and I just I think i'd

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Speaker 7: like to ask ask him, you know, did he actually

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Speaker 7: really love me? Or was he just kind of using me.

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Speaker 7: I've always thought that this is a great topic guys,

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Speaker 7: by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, because it's also you're wonder too, does that person

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Speaker 3: like if we shared something special right like Emma's talking,

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Speaker 3: does that person ever think about me?

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Speaker 5: I know, yeah, I know I do agree with that.

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Speaker 5: I think you can think those things such and Emma.

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Speaker 3: Probably wants to know if that guy also regrets how

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Speaker 3: we behaved back then? Am I right?

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Speaker 7: Em Yes? Absolutely, I mean I'm over it obviously, But

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Speaker 7: am I really calling you guys? Well we know decades

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Speaker 7: later exactly?

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Speaker 5: You know what though, Emma, going back to what I

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Speaker 5: was saying before, I mean, I know there's probably things

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Speaker 5: you've had to deal with with being having someone be

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Speaker 5: so mean to you that you've shared something so special

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Speaker 5: with or it's such a big milestone in your life.

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Speaker 5: But there is a point where you have to think,

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Speaker 5: you know what, it doesn't it doesn't really matter. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't it doesn't matter anymore.

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Speaker 1: It was just part of it.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I should get some therapy on it. Now that

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Speaker 7: I've wrung you, I feel like I've opened up some scar.

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Speaker 3: No, that's good, it's good to talk about it. But

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Speaker 3: don't you think, also the way I look at it too,

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Speaker 3: if you've shared something special with somebody, then I'm always

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Speaker 3: going to be there for that person, don't you think?

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Speaker 1: Not always?

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Speaker 3: You've been They have a family, now you've moved on.

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Speaker 3: I'm not offering anything that will interrupt for family life. Say,

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Speaker 3: if I was ever needed to be called on, I

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Speaker 3: would always go to an extra length.

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Speaker 4: But why would they call on you when they have

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Speaker 4: other important people in their lives.

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Speaker 3: That's irrelevant. The point is you're talking about sharing something special,

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Speaker 3: and therefore I think there's a respect that is existing

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Speaker 3: from what you did share.

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Speaker 5: I think if there has been a positive end experience

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Speaker 5: to the relationship. I think sometimes some relationships you just

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Speaker 5: need to get as far away from.

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Speaker 1: Us as possible. Those ones exist, and they are not.

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