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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Crows for a bit. The Adelaide

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Speaker 1: football club. Their long term dream for a new headquarters

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Speaker 1: is now step closer to reality. As you've heard on

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Speaker 1: five double A News, the State Commission Assessment Panel has

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Speaker 1: given the Crows the planning approval to set up one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollar base at Thebdon Oval. Construction to begin

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Speaker 1: soon later this year and be completed by September twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. This is John Olson, the chairman of the Crows,

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Speaker 1: on that on five double A Breakfast a bit earlier

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Speaker 1: this morning. Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 2: Now to have the green light from State Planning that

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Speaker 2: we can proceed at Sebdon so we can upgrade the

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Speaker 2: facilities there that'll be open to the public. But the

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Speaker 2: journey has been exhausting and frustrating. However, we are there

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Speaker 2: and we've got a plan that's been signed off that

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Speaker 2: looks after the interests of the local community as well

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Speaker 2: as serving the needs of the Adelaide footy club.

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Speaker 1: Yep, they're there, but it is planned, c isn't it

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, because plan in the

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Speaker 1: park lands and what a good idea that was really

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Speaker 1: in terms of the Adelaide City Council as well getting

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Speaker 1: a pool for nothing, but there we go. They had

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Speaker 1: City of West Tarrance, Michael Coxon on the line, Mayor,

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Speaker 1: good morning, thank you for your time. So are you

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Speaker 1: happy with the situation as it currently stands? Was there

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Speaker 1: anything else council needed done or ticked off on you,

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Speaker 1: compromised anywhere? Where's it at your from your point of view?

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Speaker 3: Well, Matthew, thank you for having me on your show.

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Speaker 3: And can I just say that we are absolutely delighted

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Speaker 3: with the precision that has come down from SCAP in

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Speaker 3: relation to approvingly a greed master plan. And of course

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Speaker 3: there are some conditions on that approval that SCAP put

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Speaker 3: on the applicants seeing the Adelaide Football Club, but I

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Speaker 3: can assure all the listeners that the agreed master plan

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Speaker 3: that was arrived that took a long time and it

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Speaker 3: was important that it took a long time so that

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Speaker 3: Club to conduct their football and their programs which would

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Speaker 3: be great community programs to West Currence and so we're

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Speaker 3: absolutely delighted. This has been three years in the making.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly taken a while, hasn't it, just to get

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Speaker 1: it to this point just for planed c So okay,

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Speaker 1: does council have to do any greeting any thing like

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Speaker 3: These are conditions that are part of not only our

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Speaker 3: have been serther conditions that have been wide on the

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Speaker 1: Okay, so enough, no owners on the council to do that.

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Speaker 1: That is the club's responsibility.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely the applicant or the club's responsibility.

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Speaker 1: With all right, you're going to have a chat to

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Speaker 1: s ANFL to move out of Sebdon and over to Westlakes.

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Speaker 3: Well, Matthew, you know that I can't do that. I

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Speaker 3: can't influence the decisions of other councils. But I am

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Speaker 3: Charles Sir, will be one that should be well received.

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Speaker 3: You know, at the moment, the Abelais Football Club down

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Speaker 3: an exclusive license, which means that it severely limits any

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Speaker 3: non exclusive license, that's their very limited time. So if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, all right, Michael Cox, I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Mayor of the City of West Turrence.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Matty.

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Speaker 1: Are you happy with where it's at?

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Speaker 4: That's a complicated question. I'm extremely proud of what our

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Speaker 4: details of the crows plants that have been lodged that

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Speaker 1: The removal of trees here, Okay, the Crows have got

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Speaker 4: I did dodge a bullet in terms of the climing

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that is yet to be finalized. Then the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have. State government was instrumental in that, essentially

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Speaker 4: We remain incredibly disappointed with council. Council could have made

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Speaker 4: They should never have offered it to the Crows, and

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Speaker 4: Without that funding reliance, who would have an incredibly different proposal.

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Speaker 4: I'm really really proud of how communities managed to rally

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Speaker 1: All Right, So it sounds like, I mean, you will

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Speaker 1: I'm reading between the lines.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there are still some concerns around traffic.

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Speaker 4: We will continue to work for state governments and access

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Speaker 4: an unly oval picture, told us how welcome we would be,

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Speaker 1: Okay, sounds like you've got an excellent working relationship, as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, significantly less so. It was very disappointing to be

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Speaker 4: We have not had the opportunity to sit down with

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Speaker 4: Despite the continual rhetoric about these sort of years of

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Speaker 4: we said, come here, take our over, not our trees,

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Speaker 4: here our constance, here's how we can work together. Council

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Speaker 4: They bent over backwards to get them here. And we're

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Michael Coxon is still on the line, the

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Speaker 1: mayor of the City of West Turrence. Michael, do you

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe I just want to say I just want

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Speaker 3: We actually bent over back that as we should, as

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Speaker 3: we should to acknowledge concerns with the local residents. Which

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Speaker 3: Is is that it was counseled that determined to excite

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Speaker 3: of any potential lease to the Adelaide Football Club. There

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Speaker 3: From step one, we've had incredible levels of community consultation

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Speaker 3: and I think it's very unfair for anyone to assert

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Speaker 1: All Right, traffic management through the area, as Emma has raised,

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Speaker 1: that is going to become a big issue. Isn't it

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Speaker 1: before south Road that the project is finished, and how

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Speaker 1: are you going to protect residents in those side streets?

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Speaker 3: Well, I can already let you know that it is

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Speaker 3: on Council's agenda as part of our local SUS management

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Speaker 3: review that and so uppermost in our minds was making

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Speaker 3: sure that in the impact on local rexampul we reduced

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Speaker 3: as much as possible. And of course, like anything, we'll

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Speaker 1: I bet you will, all right, Michael Coxon. Thank you, Emadores.

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Speaker 1: Any further comment on that, Oh.

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Speaker 4: Look, I would have a quick comment one. Currently, Western

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Speaker 4: city councils don't run parking expectors after five pm or

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Speaker 4: on weekends, or only very rarely on weekends. That's been

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Speaker 4: a massive line of contention with people already having parking

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Speaker 4: issues from stanfil games. But I sincerely hope they're going

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Speaker 4: to lift their game in that respect. And secondly, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to agree to disagree with Mayor Coxin about the

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Speaker 4: circumstances around the excision of the least the King's Reserve.

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Speaker 4: They didn't have to excite it because they wrote the lease,

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Speaker 4: so they could have not leased that area. We asked

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Speaker 4: them not to, and it wasn't until state government strongly intervened.

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Speaker 4: They count who came to the table on that one.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you both. Doctor Eberdaor's five h three

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Speaker 1: one action group. By the way, you're putting the council

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Speaker 1: on notice, A long memory is going You're going to

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Speaker 1: run for a position, yourself or somebody in the group,

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Speaker 1: maybe the mayor.

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Speaker 4: Look certainly not myself. I've a junior doctor. Rivers and

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Speaker 4: Children's have taken almost two years of progressing through my exams,

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Speaker 4: and I need to keep moving on with my last

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Speaker 4: But I think there has been a lot of engagement

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Speaker 4: with local counsel counsel at a level that hasn't been seen.

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Speaker 4: I certainly had never engaged with by local counsel, and

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Speaker 4: I won't make that mistake in the future. I now

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Speaker 4: understand how what big decisions local councils can make. I

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Speaker 4: encourage everybody to actually pay attention to what's coming on

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Speaker 4: behind closed doors, because you know there's a lot more

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Speaker 4: than you think there is.

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Speaker 1: All right, there we go, All right, Emma, thank you,

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Speaker 1: and Michael Cox and mayor of the City of West Torrance,

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Speaker 1: thank you both. And we'll see what unfolds over coming

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Speaker 1: months as workers due to start in September and finished

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Speaker 1: by September twenty six or two year build process for

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Speaker 1: the Crows, keeping some heritage areas and buildings and walls

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Speaker 1: and things and all the rest. But it's been out

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Speaker 1: for public consultation. I'm sure Crows fans particularly have had

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Speaker 1: a look at what is planned, and we will see

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Speaker 1: that unfold over months and a couple of years to come.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's pretty much all behind apart from some trees

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Speaker 1: and some landscaping plans and all the rest that needs

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Speaker 1: to be finished off, according to SCAP, the State Commission

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Speaker 1: Assessment panel that has a look at all that