Speaker 1: Matt, you are looking absolutely glowing today. What's your secret?
Speaker 2: Well, Anna, I've been using this new hydrating tanning miss
Speaker 2: called Goldie b. We're two ease. I have to check
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Go to their instagram.
Speaker 3: I want the fairy Tale, I want the Prince Charming
Speaker 3: she how.
Speaker 2: Do I put this? Isn't a fan of my kissing style.
Speaker 1: Boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's in a
Speaker 1: trash bit. He's non recyclable. Catching her laugh.
Speaker 2: I love being love, I love love. People do dumb shit.
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Speaker 1: Good All morning everyone, Hi man.
Speaker 2: Morning Anna. We're actually I haven't been in the studio
Speaker 2: for We say that every time, but this time we
Speaker 2: actually haven't been for a while. Now.
Speaker 3: Well, you've been on the Gold Coast for three weeks,
Speaker 3: so this is like the longest time I haven't seen you.
Speaker 2: It has been a while, hasn't been a while.
Speaker 3: The last time I saw you was at Glamour on
Speaker 3: the Grid, which we're going to talk about because good
Speaker 3: night a great night, but a lot of things have
Speaker 3: come out and unfolded, and we're going to address absolutely
Speaker 3: everything because I think it's only right, and we've said
Speaker 3: that we just want to be super open with our
Speaker 3: audience and just be real and kind of just share
Speaker 3: what's going on in our lives.
Speaker 2: And like explain actually what happened.
Speaker 3: So, guys, I'm looking at Matt right now. He has
Speaker 3: grown a full homeless man beard.
Speaker 2: He and the flanny doesn't help you.
Speaker 1: You look like a different person. How are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie. I'm in a pretty bad
Speaker 2: place mentally, Like it's just I don't know, like look
Speaker 2: like it's just more embarrassed than anything, like and it's
Speaker 2: just taken a strain on like everyone around me. Like
Speaker 2: I'll go into more details later, but like, yeah, I'm exhausted,
Speaker 2: I'm drained. It's just something that's like to me, was
Speaker 2: and I get what I did and I'll explain, like
Speaker 2: I get what I did was wrong. Yeah, it's just exhausting.
Speaker 2: We're just working through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've actually forgot my shaver up on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2: I left in my car.
Speaker 1: Is that what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got in last fight at like one am,
Speaker 2: so I didn't get a chance to shave.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So basically Matt has been planning to go to the
Speaker 3: Gold Coast for a while before all of this kind
Speaker 3: of happened, because you.
Speaker 2: Well, my intention was to go straight from with Tammy
Speaker 2: from the hotel and then I.
Speaker 1: Wasn't going to come back from Glamor on the Ground.
Speaker 2: Lamber on the Grid. I was going to get a
Speaker 2: job up there and I was gonna the plan was
Speaker 2: for a week hopefully I had some stuff lined up,
Speaker 2: and then everything unfolded over the weekend, so sort of
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to do that sort stuff. Everything
Speaker 2: on pause, just to you know, we just had to
Speaker 2: work through it together.
Speaker 3: So Matt has always planned to go to the Gold
Speaker 3: Coast for a couple of weeks, get settled in there,
Speaker 3: and then everything kind of unfolded. But we had pre
Speaker 3: recorded some episodes, so that's why we haven't addressed anything.
Speaker 3: And we also didn't put out an episode not last week,
Speaker 3: but the week before because we were just we just
Speaker 3: felt like the best thing to do was to take
Speaker 3: a break. But I think we should talk about the
Speaker 3: whole night, which was Glamored on the Grid.
Speaker 2: Well, it was a fun night. I had a lot
Speaker 2: of fun.
Speaker 3: It was a great night. So let's I mean, let's
Speaker 3: start from the start, shall we.
Speaker 2: I Yeah, I really enjoyed it. We get dressed up.
Speaker 2: I was getting dressed up every year for it or
Speaker 2: a nice suit. Had. My inspo was Chris Hamsworth from
Speaker 2: the Oscars. I think I didn't nail it quite as
Speaker 2: well as him, but I did. I did pretty well.
Speaker 1: He did good. He did good.
Speaker 2: He looked gorgeous, stunning, beautiful, and that tre loved that
Speaker 2: dress on her.
Speaker 3: No. What's funny though, is like we so for the
Speaker 3: past two years we've went to Glamor on the Grid
Speaker 3: together and we've always said number one, I could never
Speaker 3: get Michael an invite. But this year he finally got
Speaker 3: an invite. So I was so excited about that.
Speaker 2: And I finally got to take my partner, my fiance. Yeah. Fun.
Speaker 3: We had always said for so long, imagine us going
Speaker 3: to Glamor on the Grid as a four with both
Speaker 3: of our partners, Like how fun would that be?
Speaker 1: And finally we got to do it. So that was
Speaker 1: a tick.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. Yeah, I had a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. You have fun there every year, and I,
Speaker 2: like you said, it was a lot more fun being
Speaker 2: there with our partners. I think that we all bonded
Speaker 2: over a lot of champagne and a lot of laughs,
Speaker 2: and I think we all came a bit closer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was nice. We had lots of DNMS.
Speaker 2: And ended up going across to the pub afterwards.
Speaker 1: We did. We got to Middle Park Hotel.
Speaker 2: I had great chats there.
Speaker 3: We all kind of got really deep opened up. This
Speaker 3: is when I knew we were really drunk. So I
Speaker 3: my Glamor on the Grid outfit was this beautiful black
Speaker 3: gown from a lin lacal and I had this cape
Speaker 3: that was massive. It was literally the size of a quilt.
Speaker 3: And the four of us, four grown adults, somehow managed
Speaker 3: to forget my cape.
Speaker 1: And that's when you know that you're really dry.
Speaker 2: Did you go back and get it?
Speaker 3: Well, the day after Glamor in the Grid I was
Speaker 3: in a very bad place. I was vomiting all day,
Speaker 3: but Michael thankfully went back and got it and he
Speaker 3: was like, hey, is there a cape here?
Speaker 1: And they're like, why don you say that there actually is?
Speaker 2: The next morning as well, I took a bite of
Speaker 2: my we got room saistic good bite of my brecky burger,
Speaker 2: and I literally got up and ran to the but
Speaker 2: I didn't even make it to the toilet. I just
Speaker 2: projectiled across the whole bathroom.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Nah, you didn't make the toilet.
Speaker 2: And it was in the bath, it was on the floor,
Speaker 2: on the walls. I took wipe it down as best
Speaker 2: I could, but I was pretty I was fucking so
Speaker 2: hung over the.
Speaker 3: Next day, so we basically left my cape at middle
Speaker 3: Park Hotel and then we went back to yours and
Speaker 3: Tammy's hotel room at Crown. We kind of partied on.
Speaker 3: We were popping bottles of champagne. Things were getting like,
Speaker 3: you know, fun. Michael was saying, like Tammy and I
Speaker 3: were like hugging on the couch, just like talking shit,
Speaker 3: like you know, it.
Speaker 2: Was Michael and I were talking.
Speaker 3: You guys were talking shit. I'm my memory is very
Speaker 3: hazy from all of that. And then I think it
Speaker 3: got to about three am, and Michael was like, we
Speaker 3: need to go, and I was going to be.
Speaker 1: Sick as a dog tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And we left and Michael said that as we were
Speaker 3: leaving you were popping open another another bottle of champagne,
Speaker 3: and then there was a message that was sent.
Speaker 1: So do you want to take us through that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I you can take it back to like, well, honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm not making excuses, but I don't fully remember sending
Speaker 2: any message. I know that sounds bad.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't sound bad because Michael was like when
Speaker 3: it came out, Michael was like, there's no way Matt
Speaker 3: would remember sending that because he was popping another bottle.
Speaker 1: When we were leaving. Anyway, it were not you know,
Speaker 1: not making excuses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So what happened was I saw I messaged
Speaker 2: a girl and I asked her if she was single.
Speaker 2: But the story behind it is my mate showed me
Speaker 2: her and he said, your sister and her follow each
Speaker 2: other and she follows you. Do you know her? And
Speaker 2: then he goes, look, do you reckon?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: Could? You could message her for me and you know,
Speaker 2: put in a good word and tell her to message me.
Speaker 2: And I was like, nah, man, like that's not I'm
Speaker 2: not going to do that for you, and.
Speaker 1: He I'm engaged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh yeah, I just don't it's not
Speaker 2: what it's not what I wanted to do and then
Speaker 2: this is cringe. But he did say use your blue tick,
Speaker 2: she'll message you back, and I was like, nah, man,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that. And then I ended
Speaker 2: up doing that when I was fucked off my head
Speaker 2: at like three am, pissed. As waking up the next day,
Speaker 2: I realized that that is not a good idea. It's
Speaker 2: embarrassing for my fiance. It's embarrassing to my family, it's
Speaker 2: embarrassing to my friends, it's embarrassing to her family, her friends.
Speaker 2: Most of all, is embarrassing to the relationship. Like I
Speaker 2: don't want to be someone in a relationship that does
Speaker 2: stuff like that, Like I'm not that sort of person,
Speaker 2: Like I don't do stuff like that. I think at
Speaker 2: the moment, I did it because I was pissed. I
Speaker 2: know it's not an excuse, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: make it any excuse. But the moment something like this
Speaker 2: came out, they just jumped on it and they were
Speaker 2: just like, oh, he's like this, This is like you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, cheat all this sort of stuff. But that's
Speaker 2: not what happened. And that's what has really like made
Speaker 2: me frustrated with it all because I did live did
Speaker 2: stay quiet on socials about it. I didn't think that
Speaker 2: it was worth addressing in that way, so I kept
Speaker 2: it quiet because I wanted to do it like this
Speaker 2: where I could actually talk raw and actually talk about it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that I'm not making excuses. It
Speaker 2: was the wrong thing to do, but I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's embarrassed Tammy. It's embarrassed to me, it's embarrassed relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: It was very triggering to me because obviously we had
Speaker 3: just had this amazing night like two couples. It was
Speaker 3: a really fun night, and I know how in love
Speaker 3: you are with Tammy. So then I think I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: well if Matt can do this, then Michael can do this.
Speaker 3: And literally, for that whole week, like you know, I
Speaker 3: was annoyed with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just everyone was annoyed with me, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: my friends, my family, yeah, Tammy's family, friends, and I
Speaker 2: feel like I've let it more down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for that whole week after this happened,
Speaker 3: I was like to Michael, who are you texting?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What are you doing on your phone?
Speaker 3: And I think that's my own insecurities, and I'm not
Speaker 3: projecting that onto you, but it is triggering. The way
Speaker 3: it came out, it didn't look good. It was a
Speaker 3: three am message, so obviously we had left the hotel room,
Speaker 3: and then Tammy went on her phone, you went on
Speaker 3: your phone, and somewhere in between that the message was sent.
Speaker 3: But I think context is really important. So I think
Speaker 3: that you should read out the rest of the messages
Speaker 3: because I think if someone is going to put out
Speaker 3: one section of a message thread, I think the rest
Speaker 3: of the messages are really vital.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then she asked me why I think so.
Speaker 2: She said, you still Tammy, and I said yes, because
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not interested in this girl. So I
Speaker 2: said yes, And then she goes, why the message is then,
Speaker 2: and I said, my friend Dale saw you while we
Speaker 2: were out. Was trying to help a friend friend haha.
Speaker 2: But I will let him down gently. She goes, Oh, say,
Speaker 2: hope he finds the one. I said, so do I
Speaker 2: The hunt continues. She goes, I've got a friend. I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: send through your friend's instant and I'll get him to
Speaker 2: message her. She sent the name. I said, thank you
Speaker 2: for the help. She love heart reacted to that, and
Speaker 2: she goes, this was this one was scouted by Love Island.
Speaker 2: Do your magic, And I said, I'll try my best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so look Black, Look, I know.
Speaker 3: I think this is a huge learning curve for you,
Speaker 3: Like you and me have had many conversations in the
Speaker 3: past three weeks since this has happened, and like there
Speaker 3: just should be really no contact with anyone, even if
Speaker 3: it's for your friend. There should be no contact with
Speaker 3: anyone who isn't your fiance or who isn't a friend
Speaker 3: or a family member. And I think that's been a
Speaker 3: big lesson for you that you've said to me. Like
Speaker 3: Matt even said to me, he was like, even if
Speaker 3: we have guests on the show, like on where's your
Speaker 3: head at, I'm not messaging anyone else.
Speaker 1: Like I have learned my lesson.
Speaker 2: Like everything can be taken out of context.
Speaker 3: Everything can be taken out of context. And it's still
Speaker 3: like you are still responsible for sending that message at
Speaker 3: three am, and we are definitely not saying that that
Speaker 3: message was okay.
Speaker 1: And you know that that message is not okay.
Speaker 2: It's fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: It's stupid, it's dumb, it's it happened when you know,
Speaker 3: you were like really intoxicated. And I think that's silly
Speaker 3: as well. And I just think it was unnecessary and
Speaker 3: we all wish it didn't happen, but it did. And
Speaker 3: you're human and you know unmntionately things like you're not perfect, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't. I never claim to be, you know
Speaker 2: me though, I literally have an open phone policy with Tammy,
Speaker 2: Like she can go through my phone whenever she wants.
Speaker 2: I don't hide anything from her. I don't hide messages
Speaker 2: from her, like I literally would just sit on my
Speaker 2: phone front like I don't hide anything from her, Like
Speaker 2: I've never done anything like this. I wouldn't do it again,
Speaker 2: Like it's not me And I just think that, yeat,
Speaker 2: Like I made a mistake, like you said, No one's perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna now have to, you know, make good
Speaker 2: of what I've done and be better. I've always said
Speaker 2: I want to be a better person, and I learned
Speaker 2: from my mistake.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I said before, I haven't been on social media
Speaker 2: much at the moment. I've had friends reach out to me,
Speaker 2: I haven't messaged and back because I've just been in
Speaker 2: a really dark place and I've just been trying to
Speaker 2: work on things, and you know, like Tammy and I
Speaker 2: am both embarrassed by what happened. So I think now
Speaker 2: it's about just building that back and moving forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, as your friend, I know that you did
Speaker 3: the wrong thing, and I've made that crystal clue to you,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't mean that I'm still not worried about you.
Speaker 3: I think you have been in a really dark place
Speaker 3: and you're not yourself at the moment, and that's okay.
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, what happened is very public
Speaker 3: and it's good. I think now that you're getting to
Speaker 3: address it and kind of talk about what happened and
Speaker 3: the intention behind it. And I think whether people choose
Speaker 3: to perceive you in a positive or negative way or
Speaker 3: whatever that is, that's totally their own prerogative.
Speaker 1: But I know that you're a good person. Your family
Speaker 1: knows that you're a good person.
Speaker 3: Tammy knows that you're a good person, and you know,
Speaker 3: you guys can work through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nothing we can't work through. People are putting
Speaker 2: their own opinion on it and spinning it and commenting stuff,
Speaker 2: and it's like, look, they won't do it forever, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Tammy and I know what we have. We know that
Speaker 2: people do dumb shit, and.
Speaker 3: It's especially when they're drinking, yeah, which is it's so
Speaker 3: it's so interesting as well because like me and you
Speaker 3: for the longest time have not been drinking alcohol, like
Speaker 3: for the past year and a half, we have constantly
Speaker 3: if you're a listener of this podcast, the amount of
Speaker 3: times that Matt and I have harped on.
Speaker 1: About the fact that we're not drinking anymore.
Speaker 3: Silly things happen when we're drunk, Like we don't want
Speaker 3: to do that anymore.
Speaker 1: We're growing up.
Speaker 2: And I have said that to Tammy that I'm not
Speaker 2: going to put myself in any position like that. Like
Speaker 2: we've spoken on here before about how we don't want
Speaker 2: to drink, and I think that like we weren't so
Speaker 2: open a experiences that happened while black we were drunk.
Speaker 2: Would just come in here and be I don't want
Speaker 2: to drink anymore. Like I had some experiences last year
Speaker 2: where like a you know, like yeah that I wasn't good.
Speaker 2: Should I share?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you should. I think we're being more open.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, so I was drinking all day with
Speaker 2: my mates. I went home and I put, so what
Speaker 2: the our old house at the boys was. There was
Speaker 2: like a door and it had like a glass thing,
Speaker 2: and then I put my key. Well, I probably didn't
Speaker 2: even put my key in. I thought I put my
Speaker 2: key in, and I went to push the door because
Speaker 2: I was like, you'd turn the key and push it.
Speaker 2: And I pushed so hard I pushed myself through the
Speaker 2: glass panel of the window because you were so drunk.
Speaker 2: I was so drunk and I fell and I had
Speaker 2: all cuts down my face, all down the side of
Speaker 2: my arm. I was like bleeding. And I woke up
Speaker 2: to four police officers like with their flashlights standing over
Speaker 2: me because my roommate's girlfriend had thought someone had broken
Speaker 2: in and called the police. And I have a police
Speaker 2: officer in my family, and she said, yeah, they would
Speaker 2: have thought it was a hot burglary because the burglar
Speaker 2: I was still in the house, so they would have
Speaker 2: rushed there and long behold, it was mine, stupid ass
Speaker 2: passed out in puol of blood and glass. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I realized then that like binge drinking isn't like And
Speaker 2: we'd come on the podcast, said I want to do it.
Speaker 2: There was another time at your thirtieth where I woke
Speaker 2: up on Gravel Street off Chapel Street in Melbourne. My
Speaker 2: phone had been stolen and I woke up and I
Speaker 2: had no idea where I was or what I was doing.
Speaker 2: I'd to hail a cab and get home. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff. There was some other
Speaker 2: stuff as well. I can't really remember, but just stopped
Speaker 2: me from wanting to be on stream.
Speaker 3: There was like key life events that happened where things
Speaker 3: got out of control and Matt would come to me
Speaker 3: and be like, I just don't want to do this anymore,
Speaker 3: Like I'm sick of this, Like I'm twenty eight or
Speaker 3: you're twenty eight, now I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep doing this stupid stuff.
Speaker 3: And look, I just want to preface all of this
Speaker 3: conversation by saying we are not taking away from the
Speaker 3: fact that Matt should not have done this.
Speaker 1: We're not blaming alcohol.
Speaker 3: Matt completely takes full responsibility.
Speaker 1: But what we.
Speaker 3: Are saying is that this drinking can cause really stupid
Speaker 3: shit to happen that doesn't need to happen, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I'm saying is I'm now like it's another.
Speaker 1: Life you're paying for a big time, big.
Speaker 2: Time Yeah, but it's another life experience that I need
Speaker 2: to realize that, like it isn't nothing good comes from that.
Speaker 2: And we've said that before. Like I watched an episode
Speaker 2: of How I Met Your Mother the other day. I'm
Speaker 2: watching that and it was the episode where nothing good
Speaker 2: happens after two am.
Speaker 3: Literally, guys, nothing good happens after it happens after two three.
Speaker 2: I wish I left it to go to bed. It's
Speaker 2: two am. Just go to bed. And we're not like
Speaker 2: kids anymore. I'm not twenty one. I'm not like being
Speaker 2: drinking too like the am. Like it's not like I
Speaker 2: don't pull up the same way. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be doing that stuff anymore. And I know I can
Speaker 2: say that all I want and then I go into it.
Speaker 2: But it's hard in that moment when you're around that
Speaker 2: sort of like environment, and I want to be stronger.
Speaker 2: I want to be stronger that I don't do it,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to try to find a stronger part
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 3: It does suck because, like it is a rare occasion
Speaker 3: that I get pretty drunk and I had a really
Speaker 3: fun night with you guys like me and I thought
Speaker 3: we all had a fun night, and it just sucks
Speaker 3: that this is like the takeaway, this whole scenario is
Speaker 3: one of the takeaways from it and tarnished all of it.
Speaker 3: But that wasn't the only one that did something stupid
Speaker 3: that night. Like I woke up the next morning and
Speaker 3: I just you know, when you wake up from being
Speaker 3: really drunk, I open my eyes and I immediately remember
Speaker 3: this scenario when we were actually at Glamor on the
Speaker 3: Grid and Michael and I have this ongoing I.
Speaker 1: Don't even know if you would call it a joke.
Speaker 1: Would you call it a joke?
Speaker 3: Like I have this, yeah, but it's like half serious.
Speaker 2: You're making a joke out of it.
Speaker 1: Like okay, so when Michael goes to work, this is
Speaker 1: so toxic.
Speaker 3: I can't if I'm sharing this, but I mean, in
Speaker 3: the spirit of being open, when Michael's work, I'm like,
Speaker 3: don't talk to women. Like he literally has women at
Speaker 3: his office, so I know he's going to talk to women.
Speaker 1: But it's just this thing that we've started set.
Speaker 3: Like Okay, when I say we, I've started saying I'm like,
Speaker 3: when he leaves the house, I'm like, don't talk to women.
Speaker 3: And it's like this joke, but it's half serious.
Speaker 1: It's like a little reminder to behave.
Speaker 2: I remember we were having Nando's and Michael got up
Speaker 2: to go to the toilet and You're like, don't talk
Speaker 2: to any women, and I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: So it's like a joke, but it's like half serious.
Speaker 3: But it's not serious because he literally worked with women
Speaker 3: every single day.
Speaker 1: But it's just like this thing that we've said.
Speaker 3: Anyway, when we were at Glamor on the Green, I
Speaker 3: don't know where you were, but I was with Tammy
Speaker 3: and I don't know what this scenario was, but Michael
Speaker 3: was at the front of the toilet queue and he
Speaker 3: was talking to this girl. I think they were talking
Speaker 3: about like what because free or something.
Speaker 2: I vague remember something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then Tammy and I came up to Michael
Speaker 3: and I was like, you were just talking to women.
Speaker 1: Don't talk to women. Da dah da da dah.
Speaker 3: And I like made like it wasn't like a thing.
Speaker 3: I just said it because it's this ongoing joke. Anyway,
Speaker 3: Then I went to the bathroom and then I came
Speaker 3: out and you, Michael, and Tammy were all standing there,
Speaker 3: and Tammy was like, oh, my god, the girl just
Speaker 3: came up to all three of us. So, you guys,
Speaker 3: when I was in the bathroom being like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry. I heard that your girlfriend or fiance
Speaker 3: or whatever was saying like don't talk to women, and like,
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Like I didn't mean anything by it,
Speaker 3: and she was like really serious about it. And then
Speaker 3: apparently like you guys were just like, no, it's all good,
Speaker 3: and then you don't remember that it happened. It definitely happened,
Speaker 3: and then I was like mortified. When like Michael and
Speaker 3: Tammy were telling me about this, I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, she thought I was serious and I'm so embarrassed,
Speaker 3: and I had no idea what she looked like, and
Speaker 3: so I couldn't find her to apologize.
Speaker 2: But I remember what.
Speaker 3: She's listening, whoever this person is, I'm so sorry, and
Speaker 3: like it's like an ongoing joke, but like it might
Speaker 3: have come across as sounding serious but it wasn't. And
Speaker 3: the fact that she came up to Michael and apologized
Speaker 3: for getting him in trouble.
Speaker 2: If that lady's listening, I'm so.
Speaker 3: Sorry, and like, you know, when you've been drinking and
Speaker 3: you get like the anxiety. It was literally like my
Speaker 3: eyes opened and I thought.
Speaker 1: Of that scenario, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: why am I like this?
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you've got nothing to worry about with Michael.
Speaker 2: I know, Michael and may have spoken about like how
Speaker 2: much we love our fiance. I don't think you got
Speaker 2: anything to worry about there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I know that this has been really hard,
Speaker 3: and I you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I just wanted to sort of like tell people
Speaker 2: like that because I've just like you see the comments
Speaker 2: and you see people running their mouths and you see
Speaker 2: like all their what's the perceptions or they're like stories
Speaker 2: they're making up, and you're like, dude, you don't know nothing.
Speaker 2: You're taking this off like a like what was shared?
Speaker 2: Would you?
Speaker 3: But then it's like how would they know they saw
Speaker 3: what they saw? And then they're like he's a cheetah,
Speaker 3: but it's but you're not, and you're one hundred percent not.
Speaker 3: And I think for the past three weeks you have
Speaker 3: done nothing but take accountability for what's happened. You're truly sorry,
Speaker 3: and you're you've put things in place so that this
Speaker 3: will literally never happen again.
Speaker 1: And I know it won't happen again.
Speaker 2: I know as well. I know that like Temmy and
Speaker 2: I have spoken about it, and this will just make
Speaker 2: us stronger, I feel. I feel that like like stuff
Speaker 2: like this, when it's when you can work through it
Speaker 2: and you go hold it open safe space to talk
Speaker 2: about it between your partner, can make things stronger.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Also worth noting that, like, I've never been in a
Speaker 3: relationship where things have just been smooth sailing from start
Speaker 3: to finish, Like I think sometimes at the start of
Speaker 3: relationships there are teething issues or things that happen and
Speaker 3: they can either kind of make or break the relationship.
Speaker 3: And I think that hopefully that this will make you
Speaker 3: guys stronger. Obviously, it's a really shitty position pretending to be.
Speaker 2: In, and I've been embarrassment.
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. It's like I feel, I really feel for her.
Speaker 3: I think as well, like because you guys can't just
Speaker 3: deal with it. In a normal relationship, you would deal
Speaker 3: with that together, but she has to deal with it publicly,
Speaker 3: and I think that's what makes all of it so
Speaker 3: much more stressful. And I've seen the mental and emotional
Speaker 3: strain that it's had on you. So I can only
Speaker 3: imagine what it's had hurt. But I mean, you guys
Speaker 3: went to therapy, you're working on the relationship and see
Speaker 3: how you go from there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I said, it's a nothing we can't get through,
Speaker 2: and I do believe we'll be stronger. We both believe that,
Speaker 2: and I think it's just yeah, moving on and doing
Speaker 2: what's best for us.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you want to say, Matt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to officially, in front of everyone, apologize
Speaker 2: to Tammy. I am sorry that I did that. I
Speaker 2: really do love you and I can't wait to spend
Speaker 2: the rest of my life with you.
Speaker 3: Well, I want to say, on behalf of me and
Speaker 3: everyone else, thank you for being so open and thank
Speaker 3: you for sharing.
Speaker 1: And I know it's not been.
Speaker 3: Easy, and we did go back and forth on if
Speaker 3: we should just let it die or actually share your truth,
Speaker 3: and I think it is important to share your kind
Speaker 3: of side of things instead of letting other people write
Speaker 3: your narrative. So thank you for sharing. We appreciate it,
Speaker 3: and we will be back with a normal episode next week, guys,
Speaker 3: But until next time, Bye bye.