1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Kristin Amio. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: It's Friday, November twenty one, twenty twenty five. New South 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Wales opposition leader Mark Speakman has stepped down, making way 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: for first term MP Kelly Sloan to take over the 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Liberal leadership. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: This morning, the sun was shining, the birds were chirping, 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: the jacarandas were blooming, and I was on breakfast radio 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: and on TV and staying that I would be continuing 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: as Liberal Party leader. At that stage, no alternative candidate 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: had come forward to tell me they wanted to be 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: the leader. No colleague had said to me they thought 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: it would be better if I resigned. But as I said, 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: a day, or even half a day or a few 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: hours is a long time in politics. 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: It follows days of speculation about Speakman's future and comes 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: in the same week as the ousting of his Victorian 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: counterpart Brad Baton. The first Test cricket match of the 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five men's Ashes series gets underway at Perth 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: Stadium today and with two of the most evenly matched 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: teams in decades, it's shaping up to be one hell 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: of a contest. That's today's episode. Back in the late 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, Australia's fledgling national team clocked up its first 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Test cricket win on English soil. British newspaper The Sporting 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: Times declared in a satirical obituary that English cricket was dead. 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: The body will be cremated and the ashes taken to Australia. 26 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: England's vow to retain the title spawned one of the 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: fiercest rivalries in sport, with both teams meeting every couple 28 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: of years for a series of five Test matches. 29 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: There is nothing sweet out of the boxing day hundred 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: and then the most dramatic circumstance is. 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: Well, that is the ball of the summer right there. 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: That's just about unhittable, England crushing down. 33 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 4: Three thousand MSJ just match one if the Bold's finding. 34 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Time ashes on the back of a hometown hero. Today, 35 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: almost one hundred and fifty years later, the Australian and 36 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: English men's Test cricket teams will meet on the pitch 37 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: at Perth Stadium for the first Test in the twenty 38 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: twenty five twenty twenty six Ashes series. 39 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: We've never had a close Ashes series in Australia in 40 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: our lifetime. 41 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: Robert Craddick is a senior sports journalist. 42 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: Australian normally wins easily, and the two times they've lost 43 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 4: in the last forty years, they lost easily. So we've 44 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: been secretly craving the thriller, the one that goes to 45 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: the last of five tests, that builds up and goes 46 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: back and forth, and this could be the one. 47 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: What's the vibe like behind closed doors ahead of a 48 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: test like the first Test in Perth that the general 49 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: public maybe doesn't get to see. 50 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: There's a lot of nerves coming into the Ashes. And 51 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: a small anecdote for you. Joe Ruth in England Star, 52 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: who's the world's second most experienced Test batsman in terms 53 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: of runs. Only Sash and Tendulk has scored more. He 54 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: was playing a trial game a couple of weeks ago, 55 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: getting ready for the tour in Perth and looked as 56 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: nervous as any of the players they've ever seen him. 57 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: Because he never score a century in Australia, there's a 58 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: lot of pressure on him and this is the start 59 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: of his probably his last campaign in Australia. So here's 60 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: this guy a decorated giant of the game, perhaps England's 61 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: best player ever, and this little trial game out at 62 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: lie Kill was suddenly barely nervous. And just that's what 63 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: the ashes can do to your pressure expectation. It could 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 4: make the most experienced and hardy of souls feel vulnerable. 65 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: It's been something of an uncertain run up for the 66 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: Australian squad. In particular, we had captain Pat Cummins was 67 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: ruled out the first Test some time ago due to 68 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: that back injury. The reliable fast bowler Josh Hazelwood was 69 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: also ruled out due to a hamstring injury last week, 70 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: and there's been a question mark overhaul open Australia's batting 71 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: attack with usman Kwaja following the retirement of David Warner 72 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: after last summer. Do you think that's affecting the mood 73 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: inside the Australian camp right now. 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: I think it has robbed have a little bit of confidence. 75 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: I think without Pat Cummins there that's significant because it's 76 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: one thing to change your opening batsman and it's one 77 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: thing to miss Josh Hazwood. But Cummins is a tremendously 78 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: pacifying force in this team. He's Captain cool. It's just 79 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: great thats set on the best and worst days, she 80 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: still has that come and smile and she it's an 81 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: underrated quality because it's one thing being a tactical genius 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: in the field, which he probably isn't, but that he 83 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: radiates coolness and calmness, and not having him there thou 84 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: miss that nearly as much as he's bowling. 85 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: On Thursday, after weeks of speculation, all rounder Bo Webster 86 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: was dropped from Australia's starting eleven in favor of Debutane's 87 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Jake Weatherald and Brendan Doggett. 88 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 4: For starter gives excitement and freshness to it. And there 89 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: are two great stories. Jake Weatherall has been to helen 90 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: back as a cricketer. He's in his thirties now, but 91 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 4: on the way up, his game was in really poor 92 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: state and he was having suicidal thoughts and his wife 93 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: said to him, Jake, you need specialist help, not for 94 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: your cricket but for yourself, and he somehow found his 95 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: way through it. Now, normally that's a crisis a guy 96 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: will go through after his cricket career has finished, or 97 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: normal the end, he hadn't even started it so to 98 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: go from that fragile mental state Christian to play Test 99 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: cricket makes him one of Australia's best sports stories of 100 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: the decade. It really does. He has climbed an incredible 101 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: mountain and then you've got Brendan Doggett, just the third 102 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: Indigenous male cricketer to play a Test for Australia. What 103 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 4: a story he is. At age twenty one, he was 104 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: a country carpenter into Woomba with no aspirations. He'd never 105 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: played representative cricket. He never thought he ever would. He 106 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: was working as a chippy Monday to Friday, playing club 107 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 4: cricket on the weekends and his life was bliss. And 108 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: then his brother went to Brisbane. He thought, oh my 109 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 4: goad and enjoy him and play a few games down there, 110 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 4: and he just went up through the system. Ten years 111 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: later he's playing a Test match. It's a great story 112 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: and it inspires every country cricketer who has a dream 113 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: but never thinks they're going to make it. Well, Brendan 114 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: Doggett is your man, because every dogget has his day. 115 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: Someone who wasn't named in the Australian Ashes squad is 116 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: twenty year old Sam Constance. He put on an incredibly 117 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: entertaining and fearless display against the incredibly dangerous Indian pace 118 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: bowler Jasprett Bumra last summer. 119 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: Ruck with big noise supporting him, running into Constance who's 120 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: tried two ramps and two charges in his first twenty. 121 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: One balls test level. Now we go for the ramp 122 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: over the top of Russat. 123 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: Pads, but he's been inconsistent in the domestic Sheffield Shield 124 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: competition more recently. Do you think he will have an 125 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: ash's birth in future and do you think the criticism 126 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: that's been leveled against him is fair? 127 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: The criticism has not been bitter or a cerbic or 128 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 4: anything like that. It's just been a statement of fact. 129 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: You know, he's really struggled to know his game. He's 130 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: a young boy of twenty and he's so far off 131 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: knowing who he is and what he is that the 132 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: best thing they can do with him is put him 133 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: in the Sheffield Shield for a couple of years and 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: let him find himself. He's a really nice lad. Everyone 135 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: likes him. You talk to Mitchell Stark about him and 136 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: he'll go on for minutes about how he's such a 137 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: humble kid. He's open to any sort of suggestions and 138 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: I think he'll get back there. But at the moment, 139 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: Christen he doesn't know who he is. He doesn't know 140 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: whether he's an attacker, he doesn't know his defensive game, 141 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: so he needs to find himself. So a couple of 142 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: years out of the spotlight will be just what Sam 143 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: Constance needs. 144 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Coming up, why England's feeling more confident than ever ahead 145 00:08:43,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: of this ASHES series? Now, in fairness, we should probably 146 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: talk about the English team. You mentioned earlier that these 147 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: are two of the most evenly matched teams we've seen 148 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: in an ASHES series. 149 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: In a long time. 150 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: They retired English vice captain Stuart Broad said recently, this 151 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: is the worst Australian team in fifteen years and the 152 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: best English team. How do you rate England's prospects in 153 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: this series? 154 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: They were two pretty extreme observations, but it wasn't far out. 155 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: This is the best England team in fifteen years and 156 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: with the two injuries to Australia, this is one of 157 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: their weaker teams in fifteen years. But there was something 158 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: else he said about England. They're playing this baseball cricket. 159 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: It's a really rampant attacking game. But their coach, Brenda McCullum, 160 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: has had a policy of no winging in the dressing room. 161 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 4: You do not complain about anything, and they've been mocked 162 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: for it and people laughed at it because they said, 163 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: our winging pomps, I'll find a way to complain, but 164 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: they don't. Mark Wood twins his hamstring the other day 165 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: went back to the dressing room and would not complain. 166 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: And I really like that game plan, Kristin, because I've 167 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: seen so many English teams come here over the last 168 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: forty years and you can almost see Graham Gooch used 169 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: to walk through customs with his shoulders down and say, oh, 170 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: it's bloody hot here, isn't it already? And as soon 171 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: as you start winging you it's like the All Black 172 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: Shrubby union team when they toured England used to have 173 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: a policy you weren't allowed to say it's a cold day, 174 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: because as soon as you do, it gets colder. And 175 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: I like this positivity. There are chance this year England 176 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: they really are. 177 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: Robert Craddick is a senior sports journalist. You can follow 178 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: all the action from the first Ashes test at the 179 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Australian dot Com dot Au