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Speaker 1: Udo Erasmus. Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Nice to be here.

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Speaker 3: I read your first book, well might not have been

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Speaker 3: your first book, but it's probably the most famous, Fats

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Speaker 3: that Hail, Fats that Kill.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've still got a copy of it.

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Speaker 3: I read it must be Bloody Hell twenty years ago,

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Speaker 3: I reckon, and I imagine it's still selling, is it?

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Speaker 1: Because it was the bible on fat back there.

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Speaker 2: It still is the only book out there that really

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Speaker 2: went into depths because what people tend to do when

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Speaker 2: they write like it took me six years of actually more,

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Speaker 2: it took me six years of research to write the

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Speaker 2: first one, which was called Fats and Oils that came

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Speaker 2: out in nineteen eighty six. Fats That Hill, Fats and

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Speaker 2: Kill hit the shelves in nineteen ninety four, so I

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Speaker 2: had basically six years and another the six years, so

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Speaker 2: twelve years went into it. And I and what actually

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Speaker 2: I did that no one else has done. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of crazy, actually, I think. But I read a study

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Speaker 2: I got poisoned by pesticides. I was looking for self

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Speaker 2: help because the doctors didn't have anything. And I'm reading

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Speaker 2: all this stuff in the in the research and I

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Speaker 2: read a study that said omega six is an essential nutrient,

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Speaker 2: which means you can't make it, but you have to

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Speaker 2: have it. You have to therefore bring it in from outside.

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Speaker 2: If you don't get enough long enough, you die, because

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Speaker 2: these are like really important nutrients. And if you bring

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Speaker 2: enough back into a deficient diet before you die, then

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Speaker 2: all the problems that come from not getting enough are

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Speaker 2: reversed and you get your health back. Because life knows

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Speaker 2: how to make a body, provided we take responsibility for

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Speaker 2: bringing in the building blocks. Everything else life does without

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Speaker 2: us having to pay attention to it, but we have

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Speaker 2: to bring in the building blocks, and you have to

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Speaker 2: have the researchers have to have identified at least one

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Speaker 2: biochemical reaction in which that nutrient is required and without

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Speaker 2: which that biochemical reaction cannot take place. So the very

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Speaker 2: specific definition, very precise. And then the very next study

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Speaker 2: I read said omega six gives you cancer and kills you,

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Speaker 2: and my head exploded. It was like, wait, I have

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Speaker 2: to have it so it can kill me, and so

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Speaker 2: I thought I must be missing something. And it was

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Speaker 2: that trying to resolve that contradiction that got me looking

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Speaker 2: at how oils are made and the damage done to

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Speaker 2: oils and what that damage consists of and what causes

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Speaker 2: that damage, And then got me thinking, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I can't get healthy on oils that are damaged. We

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Speaker 2: should make oils with health in mind. I then developed

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Speaker 2: a method for making oil with health and mind, and

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Speaker 2: that we in nineteen eighty seven, we started selling flaxseed

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Speaker 2: oil as the richest source of omega threes that are

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Speaker 2: too low in ninety nine percent of the population. And

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, could if we could

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Speaker 2: make it with health and mind and we could bring

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Speaker 2: it back to the population, Oh my god, we could

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Speaker 2: help almost everybody. And it was like that just I

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Speaker 2: got so excited about that. That's what drove that project.

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Speaker 2: But the people who these days tell you not to

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Speaker 2: use seed oils and not to use omega sixes didn't

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Speaker 2: do the homework. None of them have talked to me,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't do the homework that came from that contradiction.

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Speaker 2: They've never looked deeply enough, so they're giving bad advice.

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Speaker 2: And of course they always sell something else behind it.

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Speaker 2: You know, don't do that, do what I want you

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Speaker 2: to buy. So they are not only lying about the truth,

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Speaker 2: they're also doing bait and switches.

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Speaker 3: I always tell you though that I always say that

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Speaker 3: if if there anybody tells you that there's one diet

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Speaker 3: that everybody should eat, they're either demented, they're trying to

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Speaker 3: sell you something, or they're a member of a cult.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much, it pretty much comes down to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And now the whole the nutrition is very very controversial, right,

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Speaker 3: and which part elements, well, lots of parts of nutrition

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Speaker 3: in terms of you know, what's the best diet.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's the diet wars. There's the diet wars,

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Speaker 1: aren't there, right, It's not one end one end. You've

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Speaker 1: got the vegans, vegetarians.

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Speaker 3: Then there's the high fat, low carb, the low fat

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Speaker 3: high carb, the pelio, the carnivore on the other end, right,

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Speaker 3: and then there's mediterrane and then there's the antic diet's

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Speaker 3: the bloody South Beach diet.

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Speaker 1: It's on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: There's about six hundred of them, right, six hundred diet.

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Speaker 2: What is not controversial though, when it comes to nutrition,

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Speaker 2: is that there are forty two essential nutrients, eighteen minerals,

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Speaker 2: thirteen vitamins, ninety central amino acids from proteins, and two

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Speaker 2: essential fatty acids from oils that are essential by the

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Speaker 2: definition of you got to have it. You can't make it,

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Speaker 2: you got to bring it in from outside. You die

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Speaker 2: if you don't get enough long enough, and if you

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Speaker 2: bring it back all the problems that come from not

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Speaker 2: getting enough are reversed. That's not controversial, although there are

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Speaker 2: some people, although there are some people who say, well,

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Speaker 2: they're actually twenty minerals and there's fourteen vitamins, and people

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Speaker 2: keep trying to sneak some new stuff in it because

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Speaker 2: if it's essential, you gotta have it, and that's good

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Speaker 2: for marketing. So there's some cheating going on in the marketplace.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of what are the essential nutrients, that's

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Speaker 2: relatively well establish. What's different in between people, though, is

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Speaker 2: that we don't all need the exact same amount of

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Speaker 2: any one of them, you know, like some people some

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Speaker 2: people can get optimum from five hundred milligrams of vitamin

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Speaker 2: C and some people can get optimum from three thousand

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Speaker 2: or even more. And of course the RDA the recommended

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Speaker 2: government allows is like sixty milligrams. Ye, what it is,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what is in Australia, but it's way

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Speaker 2: too low because they're not dealing with they're not dealing

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Speaker 2: with optimum health. They're dealing with minimum health.

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Speaker 3: Correct, And I think I think it's important for people

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Speaker 3: to understand that the RDAs were established decades ago and

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Speaker 3: were never designed to be indicating what is optimal. It

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Speaker 3: was all about what is the minimum needed to avoid

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Speaker 3: a deficiency. You know, for instance, if we take protein recommendations,

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Speaker 3: we now know that the RDA protein's way too low,

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Speaker 3: particularly as you get older.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: If we let's so we're going to focus in a

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Speaker 3: little bit on fats because that's your area of expertise,

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Speaker 3: and then I want to widen the lens.

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Speaker 1: To overall health. So you know that.

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Speaker 3: I think probably the worst thing that happened was nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty three. That I'm pretty sure it was nineteen eighty

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Speaker 3: three the first ditary recommendations or was it seventy seven

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Speaker 3: in the United States to limit fat in the diet.

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Speaker 2: That was, Yeah, that was the Mcgovernent Report on Nutrition

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Speaker 2: and Health, and that was published in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we had the recommendations that we should

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Speaker 3: eat a low fat diet and then everybody.

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Speaker 2: Lots lots of carbs, Yeah, lots of carbs. Put him

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the food pyramit of fats on top.

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Speaker 2: You should eat the least possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and and we know nih that

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Speaker 3: that is really a misconception and that a lot of

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Speaker 3: that stuff was not based on randomized control trial evidence

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Speaker 3: that was available at the time. And then all of

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Speaker 3: these big companies got very rich and making refined carbohyd.

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Speaker 2: Cell and carbon and you know, and the thing that

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Speaker 2: struck me as the funniest thing because everybody thought, if

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Speaker 2: you eat fats, you're going to get fat, and that

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Speaker 2: was never true because fat suppress appetite. They have more calories,

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Speaker 2: but they suppress appetite and you get stable energy and

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Speaker 2: you don't get blood sugar and insulin and craving swings. Right.

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Speaker 2: But what we did when we went on that diet

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Speaker 2: with the carbs at the bottom of the food pyramid

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Speaker 2: that we should eat, the lost most of that was

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine. In the next twenty years, overweight

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Speaker 2: went from twenty five to sixty percent of the American population.

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Speaker 2: And nobody questioned the pyramid.

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Speaker 1: No, it's just crazy, isn't that? It's crazy? And actually

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Speaker 1: the scurry thing was I think it was.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was that did an investigation

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Speaker 3: that something like and and look, the numbers are probably

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Speaker 3: slightly incorrect, but it's something like twenty two or of

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Speaker 3: twenty nine of the people on the on the body,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember. The body that creates the American dietary

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Speaker 3: guidelines currently have financial ties to big food. I mean

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Speaker 3: that that is just or big format.

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Speaker 2: I mean they call it regulatory capture. The so the

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Speaker 2: government institutions that are supposed to regulate the safety of

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Speaker 2: the food supply are actually getting money either on the

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Speaker 2: side or to that government institution from the people that

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to regulate. Yeah, you know, and you know

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Speaker 2: that is that's saying about not biting the hand that

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Speaker 2: feeds you. Yeah, that's that's regulatory capture. And there's huge,

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Speaker 2: it's huge. And they they they say now that they

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Speaker 2: in the in the medical research journals like the big

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Speaker 2: ones JAMA and British Medical Journal, there's like four of them, Lancet,

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Speaker 2: four of them, like the high end ones, that eighty

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Speaker 2: percent of what is published in those medical journals is

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Speaker 2: actually only published with permission from the pharmaceutical industry. And

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Speaker 2: they cheat on how they do the studies, and they

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Speaker 2: force people who do studies that don't make them look good,

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Speaker 2: they force them to withdraw those studies from the magazines.

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Speaker 2: In a in a process there is political not peer

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Speaker 2: reviewed and not unbiased and not based on even a

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Speaker 2: bias for health, just a bias for it's a bias

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Speaker 2: for pharmaceutical profits because they can you know, they can

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Speaker 2: patent unnatural molecules. That's why we're not using nature to heal,

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Speaker 2: even though nature invented health. Well, we reuse unnatural molecules

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Speaker 2: get monopoly profits for twenty years, twenty one years in

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Speaker 2: Canada now used to be seventeen now it's twenty one years.

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Speaker 2: And then so we have a system that forces people

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Speaker 2: to become crooked unless they're unbelievably content in their own being.

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Speaker 2: And of course who would that be.

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Speaker 3: Like it is, it's a it's a pretty dodgy world

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Speaker 3: that we live in.

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Speaker 2: Internal dodgy is a really good word for it. It's

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Speaker 2: not a Canadian word, but dodgy is exactly.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's not focusing on fats and let's talk

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Speaker 3: about good, bad damage facts.

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Speaker 1: Just give people a bit.

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Speaker 3: Of an overview of unsaturated fatty acids, monounsaturated fatty acid,

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Speaker 3: saturated fatty acid talk a little bit. I think it

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Speaker 3: might be helpful to talk a little bit about carbon

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Speaker 3: bonds and these sorts of things and and and give

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Speaker 3: people an understanding of different structure first of all, and

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Speaker 3: then we can dive into the what's good and what's

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Speaker 3: not so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so usually the saturated monounsaturated, poly unsaturated. That's

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Speaker 2: like techie and most people are not that big on it.

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Speaker 2: But what it is is, Look, you have fatty acids.

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Speaker 2: There are strings of carbon molecules hooked together. Most of

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Speaker 2: the ones in oils are eighteen, but they can be

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Speaker 2: anywhere from two to twenty eight carbon atoms strung together.

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Speaker 2: And there's an acid end, which is a cooh end

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Speaker 2: on one end, and there's a called the omega end

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Speaker 2: c H three end on the other end. That's what

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Speaker 2: a fatty acid look like. And if it's if it's

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Speaker 2: all just single bonds between the carbons, you end up

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Speaker 2: with a saturated fatty acid. They tend to be harder

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Speaker 2: at room temperature. They tend and then and then the

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Speaker 2: body can put double bonds between some of the carbons.

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Speaker 2: They're usually three carbons apart. So if you put one

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Speaker 2: double bond in this chain, then you have a mono

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Speaker 2: unsaturated that kinks the molecule. And now the molecule doesn't

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting is omega three and omega six use

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Speaker 2: omega three. Well, you've got about twenty times more omega

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Speaker 2: At least ten to one. Yeah, at least twenty ten

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ and.

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Speaker 2: So and so. Yeah. So the issue, So the issue

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Speaker 2: with nutrition. Because why is that? Because health was invented

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Speaker 1: In nature.

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Speaker 1: And this is an important point.

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Speaker 2: And that's why processing is where most of our are,

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Speaker 1: So that screws us up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that screws us up. But going back to what

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Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent ninety nine percent. When I looked at

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Speaker 3: of chemical processes. It's being heated unless it's cold pressed. Heat.

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Speaker 2: No, cold cold pressed cold press doesn't mean anything. That's

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Speaker 2: then outside of that definition they'll use that to a

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Speaker 2: Yes, But let me go back to, you know, the

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Speaker 2: on the damage done to them by industry. So they

436
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: cause they so they say omega threes are bad, but

437
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: omega threes are essential, but they need to be not damaged,

438
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: and they're sensitive and you need to do make them

439
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: with care.

440
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: I think, I think that's the sensible ones on this,

441
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: and I believe that they're pointing to the commercially available ones.

442
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure that anybody and a mega sexes

443
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: are bad per se.

444
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: No.

445
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: No, My my oil blend that I made is also

446
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: commercially available, but it's not damaged, right, yeah, because I

447
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: developed a method for doing that because the industry was

448
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: not interested in that. They were interested in shelf life

449
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: and big markets. So I wanted to ask, say, okay,

450
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: So when I found out that when I've read the

451
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: research from the industry, research the industry itself did they

452
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: said that when you treat an oil with so do

453
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: I droxide and phosphoric acid, and then you bleach it

454
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: with bleaching claves, it goes rancid, smells bad and you

455
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: have to de authorize it and to do that you

456
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: have to heat it to frying temperature for thirty minutes,

457
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: and in that process a half to one percent of

458
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: the oil are damaged. Change from something natural your body

459
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: knows how to deal with, to something that never existed

460
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: in nature that maybe your body never had to make

461
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: a fix for. Okay. And so when I found that out,

462
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: I was shocked, and I, you know, because I was sick.

463
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about you know, I was I

464
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: was a truth seeker because I was sick. Right, So

465
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: I called the Oil Chemist Society in Champagne, Illinois, and said,

466
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: I want to talk to a researcher. And they said, okay,

467
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: this was like in the early eighties. Because I got

468
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: poisoned nineteen eighty and those times, they you know, people

469
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: weren't hiding as much as they do now. But so

470
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: I said, I want to talk to researcher. They put

471
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: him on the line and I said, so, when you

472
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: know that this does damage to the oils, why do

473
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: you use this kind of processing? And he said, well,

474
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: one of the reasons we do that is because we

475
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: can get rid of half of the pesticides in the oil.

476
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: And me, I, you know, I came out of university

477
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: and studied lipids, and you know, nobody ever told us

478
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: that there were pesticides and oils. So my head was blown.

479
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: I got poisoned by pesticides. There's pesticides in the oil,

480
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: and they heated to frying temperature and damage it to

481
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: get rid of only half of the pesticides, and I think, WHOA,

482
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: my god, the other half stays in. I didn't say

483
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: that to him, but I said to him, well, why

484
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: don't you start with organically grown seeds. Then you don't

485
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: have a pesticide poison poison problem to deal.

486
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: With, because that's very expensive.

487
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: No, and I guess he had never heard that. There

488
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: was this long silence at the other end of the phone,

489
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: and I waited, you know, I can talk. Obviously, you've

490
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: noticed I've interrupted you a couple of times already, right,

491
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: Vice Varsa, Yeah, yeah, you know, but I can. I

492
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: can also listen, and I'm pretty good at it sometimes.

493
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: So I listened. I waited. There's a long silence, and

494
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: then he got mad, Well, I don't know what the

495
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: hell your problem is. That oil was just one percent bad,

496
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 2: and it's only ninety percent good. And if you got

497
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent on an exam, you'd be damn happy,

498
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. Well I got ninety nine and a half

499
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: percent on my pesticides prayer exam, and I used to

500
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: get one hundred percent in genetics because I was in

501
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: love with the topic, you know. But yeah, anyway, so

502
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't impressed with that. But I thought, well, maybe

503
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I'm overreacting. It's only one percent, So let

504
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: me do the math. You know. We had the sing,

505
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: went and out to the math. Right, So I said, okay,

506
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: I have a tablespoon of an oil. Tablespoon in my

507
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: where I live is fourteen grams fifteen milliliters. I think

508
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: you guys is twenty like the British. The British is

509
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: twenty right, Okay, so have a tablespoon of oil fifteen

510
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: MILLI leaders how many damaged molecules will be in that

511
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: tablespoon of oil if that oil is one percent damaged.

512
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: And I want you to answer that question because you

513
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: have no found you have no basis for answering. Or

514
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: you might have actually, but most people who listen to

515
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: your show do not have the information they need to

516
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: do the calculation. But there's a way to do it,

517
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: and so I ask people, and you'll see why. So

518
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: give me a number. How many it's a tablespoon of

519
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: oil it's one percent?

520
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: How many molecules?

521
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: How many damaged oil molecules are in that.

522
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: Tables of Jesus wouldn't I would be saying it's gotta

523
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: be thousands and thousands of dummed molecules.

524
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: How many thousands?

525
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Three hundred doozand I'm guessing how much three hundred.

526
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: Okay, three hundred thousand. So three hundred thousand has five zeros? Right?

527
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

528
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: Okay? Would you like to know the actual number?

529
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: I certainly would.

530
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: It is a six followed by nineteen.

531
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Zeros jumping Jehovah.

532
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: So what that means is your estimate is fourteen zeros

533
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: too low? You know what fourteen zeros is. It's quadrated,

534
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: it's two hundred trillion, Right, I'm good to I do.

535
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: I do this math a lot. So so so that

536
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: means you, what, if you're using those oils, what you're

537
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: doing to yourself is two hundred trillion times worse than

538
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: you think it is. So then I say, listen, you're

539
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna fly back to Ireland for the holidays.

540
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: And you get about to get on the plane, and

541
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: you got your boarding cart, and you know they're just

542
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: they just call everybody to get up and get in

543
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: the lineup. This guy taps you on the shoulders and

544
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: you look around and it's mister truth teller. You know,

545
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: he's a guy who can't tell a lie. And he says,

546
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: by the way, did you know that your chance of

547
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: crashing and dying on this flight back to Ireland from

548
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: Australia that you're about to get on is two hundred

549
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: trillion times higher than you thought it was. Would you

550
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: get on the airplane?

551
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably not.

552
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I was in Ireland, I asked the question.

553
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I said, I would canoe back to Canada. Right. But

554
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 2: the point is we're doing something because nobody's told us, right,

555
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: but we're doing something to us. And when I ask

556
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: this question. I never get anybody that is is even

557
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's always at least a billion times too

558
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: low in their estimate. So we so we underestimate the

559
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: damage we're done doing to our body by at least

560
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: a billion times. And is that is that maybe a

561
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: cause for a little extra thought. It's like, maybe I

562
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: should be maybe I should be going back to seeds

563
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: and nuts where the oils aren't damaged, or maybe I

564
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: should stop frying. When you fry, you have to multiply

565
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: that number by another five times. Well, then you have decided.

566
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: And if you have plastic and you don't take one

567
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: tablespoon but two to four, you know, and you do

568
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: that for thirty years, And how many molecules that don't

569
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: do the work in your body that they're supposed to

570
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: do are you going to put in your body?

571
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: And then I think they understand.

572
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: The other thing you know is that that when you

573
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: fry stuff, fry oils, you release aldehydes, which are carcinogenic compounds,

574
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: and and the that's link to the stability of the

575
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: oil that you're frying. So the more polyunsaturated fats more

576
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: aldehydes than money owned saturated fats which have more aldehydes

577
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 3: than saturated fats when you're frying.

578
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: So it's not right. And we're marketed about the smoke.

579
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: We're marketed about the smoke point, aren't we, and that

580
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: that polyonsaturated fats tend to have a higher.

581
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Smoke point like grape seed oil. But smoke point is

582
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: one thing.

583
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: That's when it's becoming a transpat But but aside from that,

584
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: the heating itself is creating these carcinogenic compounds in the oil.

585
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: Well, the truth is that when you fry something, and

586
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: we're talking about whether it's poly unsaturated or saturated fats,

587
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: when you fry things, you know, you know, you burn them, right,

588
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: they turn, you know, they go from whatever color then

589
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: they go yellow to brown or black to smoke. Right, So,

590
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: whenever you fry anything, whether it's protein or fat or carbs,

591
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: each one, independent of the others, increases inflammation and increases

592
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: each one of them causes inflammation and increases the risk

593
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: of cancer. Now you will do more damage to the

594
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: polyunsaturated oils if you fry them then to the.

595
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: Saturated one saturated.

596
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: But still so when people say what's the best oil

597
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: the fryers, there is no best oil the fry with

598
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: I can tell you what is the worst, the least worst.

599
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: The least worst is going to be the hardest fats.

600
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: The more stable, the one stable that the one that

601
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 3: solid at room temperature. Your tallow you're gay those sorts

602
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: of things.

603
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're still getting yourself increased risk of cancer

604
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: and more inflammation in any any time. So frying is

605
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: the dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

606
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: So you don't So you don't fry anything, you know.

607
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: Nope, not anymore. Right, I used to before I knew,

608
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: and I mean think about it, right, two hundred two

609
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: hundred trillion times too low is your estimate of the dam.

610
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: So the play devils to play devil's advocate, right on that. So, so, yes,

611
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: my estimator is out by by a a you orders

612
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: of magnitude, right, But what is the impact on the

613
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: body of however many trillions of molecules being affected when

614
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: it goes.

615
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: Into a big body like mine? Well, okay, so you

616
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: know I'm asking, I'm asking what that's.

617
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Not a devil's advocate, that's just a dumb question, right,

618
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: But but it's a good question. It's a good question.

619
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: So let me let me and and to pay for

620
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: further devil's advocates.

621
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: So, so how can we have how can we have

622
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: people around the world who have been frying not everything,

623
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: but frying some foods and living until they're over one

624
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: hundred years old if there's massive amounts of damage from

625
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: every little bit of oil that's used, right, So that's

626
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: a devil's advocate.

627
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a or short answer to that court

628
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: short question is if they hadn't fried, they would have

629
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: lived to one hundred and fifty. Yeah, okay, so so

630
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: you have to but let me talk about so when

631
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: you fry oils and fry fats, you do only only

632
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: get alder hides. There's all kinds of stuff you get.

633
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: You've got some other chemicals in it that come from

634
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: the stuff they use. But you fragment molecules, You cyclize molecules,

635
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: You twist molecules, you double bond shift molecules. You cross

636
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: link fatty acids with in triglycerides. You cross link fatty

637
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: acids across triglycerides. You obviously trans fatty acids, we already

638
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: did that. You dimerize problems, you fatty acids, You trimrize

639
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: fatty acid, then you polymerize fatty acids and those and

640
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: those all of those. That's it like ten things plus

641
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: aldehydes plus other stuff. So there's lots of different kinds

642
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: of damage done. And here's what happens. When you have

643
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: an unnatural molecules that never existed in nature and you

644
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 2: bring that into your body. So wherever that molecule goes,

645
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't do the job of the proper molecule, the

646
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: natural molecule that fits into that molecular architecture, because your

647
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: whole body is just molecular architecture. So in that place

648
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: where that one molecule goes, you're going to you're going

649
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: to derail natural processes. And every physical ailment begins at

650
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: the level of interactions between molecules. When they're the right molecules,

651
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: everything works. You get the wrong molecules, something doesn't work. Now,

652
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: when you have sixty quintillion damaged molecules in a tablespoon,

653
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: you know how many molecules that is. That's more than

654
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: a million damaged molecules for every one of your body's

655
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: sixty trillion cells in one tablespoon. And we eat more

656
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: than that and we fry them. So multiply that by

657
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: another five times. There's pesticides in those oils. There's plastics

658
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: in those oils because last ye, well, when there's more

659
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: damage done on top of what the damage done by

660
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: free radicals that come from the light going through the

661
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: through the transparent plastic. So it is a bloody mess.

662
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: So let me ask the question. You know other types

663
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: of cooking, such as baking or microwaving or over a fire.

664
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: How many of those.

665
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: Processes that you mentioned. I'm not sure whether you've looked

666
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: into this.

667
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: How many of those are also activated in other types

668
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: of baking, I guess, So I'm.

669
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Asking all of the relative comparisons.

670
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: So, so when you're heating anything, I mean you're changing

671
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: the protein structure, you're changing the mollectual structure.

672
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: When you're heating anything, right, or cooking anything.

673
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: But then cooking certain foods unlocks certain nutrients and things

674
00:41:59,320 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: like that.

675
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: So we know that when you cook tomatoes there's much

676
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: more like a pain.

677
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: Can I tell you? Can I tell you where that

678
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: came from? In nineteen thirties. In nineteen thirty seventh, the

679
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: Hinz Ketchup Company wrote a nutrition wrote a nutrition book

680
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: that became used as a textbook in university nutrition departments.

681
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: They're not using it now, But gee, is it coincidental

682
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: that you have to cook tomatoes to get the nutrition

683
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: value out when the book was written by a company itself.

684
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to come.

685
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Here's the other thing is that the actually,

686
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: if you eat raw tomatoes with oil, the red pigment

687
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: is oil soluble. So eating tomatoes with oil makes more

688
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 2: sense than cooking the tomato to get the nutrients because

689
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: if you cook in water, the the the pigments are

690
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: still all soluble.

691
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

692
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and so there, so there, So that that thing,

693
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: you got to take it with a with a grain

694
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: of salt, so to speak.

695
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: So do you cook? Do you cook anything?

696
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: I very little these days. I do I do sometimes.

697
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: But so but let me go back to your question.

698
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Is is there you know? Is there? How do we

699
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: do it? If you know? Some people say, well, if

700
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: I have to cook, what oils? What oil is the

701
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: best oil to cook? So I say, let's listen. This

702
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: is the Russian Roulette question, because you're just asking me

703
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: what can I get away with? And the truth is

704
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: you don't get away with anything. You have one damaged

705
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: molecule wherever it goes. You screw something up. Okay, and

706
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: it's not noticeable immediately, but you're screwing something up because

707
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: you're out of line with nature. And nature didn't make

708
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: us for fried foods. In fact, every creature in nature

709
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: that eats it's all. It's food, fresh, whole, raw, organic, local, seasonal,

710
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: and for human beings, probably mostly plant based because when

711
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: we were Stone age hunters with rocks to hunt with,

712
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: we came home empty most of the time because animals

713
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: fought back or ran away, and when they didn't have

714
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: meat to eat, then they ate vegetables because they're really

715
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: easy to hunt down and kill because they don't fight

716
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: back and they don't run away.

717
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: Oh look, I agree with that, So I'm not.

718
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: Saying so I'm not saying we can't live on meat,

719
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: but I'm saying, probably we evolved on a mostly plant

720
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: based diet. And then.

721
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to put you up on that one, you know,

722
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: because two point four million years ago you're into ancestor

723
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: Homo hobbilists. The tool maker traded off strength and power

724
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: for dexterity to make tools that enabled him to kill animals.

725
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: And then and then somebody created fire.

726
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: Let me tell you about fire. Let me tell you

727
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: about fire. There's a you know, you know the story

728
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: about fire. This is a this is a story out

729
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: of Greek mythology. Prometheus stole fire from the gods.

730
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and and.

731
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: Brought them as a gift to man, and he got punished, punished.

732
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: He didn't have to push a boulder uphill.

733
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, but but no, so Zeus punished him.

734
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: And what his punishment was that every day he he

735
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: would he would buzz around and do whatever, and every

736
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: night he got chained to a rock and an eagle

737
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: would come and peck out his liver.

738
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah yeah.

739
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: And then and this was his eternal punishment. And I

740
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: started thinking about it. It's like, well, what why is

741
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: that the appropriate punishment? And then how do you get

742
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: around it? Because he was just trying to be a

743
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: nice guy. He was trying to be nice to people.

744
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: And the answer, my answer was give fire back to

745
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: the gods. But my question was how did how did

746
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: they long before they knew about molecules, How did the

747
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Greeks get so smart to know that when you make

748
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: food toxic with fire, your liver has to deal with it.

749
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: So actually his liver actually got screwed up every day

750
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: and then it read grew in the at night. That's

751
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: how it was. Ego pecked it. You know, he was

752
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: chained to the rock. The ego pecked it out during

753
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: the day, then it regrew at night, and the eagle

754
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: came the next day picked it out again. So how

755
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: did they know that? Because that's actually what happens. When

756
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 2: you burn food. You put a load on your liver.

757
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: Your liver is the main detox organ, right. You can

758
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: also sweat stuff out and breathe stuff out, and poop

759
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: stuff out, and and and piece stuff out, but the

760
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: liver deals with the with the really cantankerous stuff. How

761
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: did they know? And so my my idea was give

762
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: fire back to the guts. So if you cook in

763
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: water and you don't let it burn onto the bottom

764
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: of your pot, then you at least you're not you're

765
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: not creating molecules that never existed in nature. And this

766
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: I think that's that's a huge key. So if you fry,

767
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: go back to cooking in water. When I was a kid,

768
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: cooking meat miant in water. Now cooking means frying usually,

769
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: but cook in water or eat raw. You know, the

770
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: only thing you got to pay attention is not if

771
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: it's not that it's not contaminated. So you've got to

772
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: wash it and you got to make sure your food

773
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: is clean, and then you can eat all of it raw,

774
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: just like all the other animals do. You will never

775
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: see a squirrel with a frying pan. Maybe in a

776
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: frying pan, yes, but with a frying pan. No.

777
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: Are you suggesting that we should eat our meat raw

778
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: or are you suggesting that we shouldn't eat meat?

779
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: Well, all the animals that eat meat eat it raw.

780
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: Even the vultures that eat rotten meat eat it raw.

781
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but human beings have been eating meat cooked for

782
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of years.

783
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've been screwed up for a thousand, hundreds

784
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: of thousands of years. That's the point. That's exactly the point.

785
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: And actually sushi is raw meat. And the Japanese have

786
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: the longest life spent.

787
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: They do, and so.

788
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: And well, well, to come back to the point of

789
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: Amiga threes, there are a Mega three index. You probably

790
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: know this, and the average Japanese has an Amiga three

791
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: index of eat or more, and the average American has

792
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: an a Mega three index of below five, and other

793
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 3: research has shown if you have an Amiga three index

794
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: of eat or more five years longer. So I think

795
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: we we I think we violently agree on that. Right

796
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: on the benefits three in bloody Yeah.

797
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: If they're not damaged, yes, But if you know, there's

798
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: researcher shows that if you take more than five point

799
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 2: one grams of fish oil a day, you can increase

800
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: inflammation when omega threes are anti inflammatory, and that comes

801
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: from the damage done to the fish oils because they're

802
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: also not taking care of them, they're not making mind.

803
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: But what about eating fish as opposed to fish oil.

804
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: Well, either fish is now the dirtiest meat on the

805
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: planet because we've been dumping you know, we've been using

806
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: the oceans as are sewer for so long now and

807
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: then and then this the the toxins concentrate up the

808
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: food chain.

809
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: So if you biggar fish worse than little thing.

810
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you were to eat krill or the

811
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: algae that make the omega threes at the bottom of

812
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: the food pyramid, that would be better than eating the salmon.

813
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: I sardines are better than china and sardines.

814
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: Sardines would be better than tune on salmon yet. But yeah,

815
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: so you know, but flax you can get organic because

816
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: you know, the dump stuff we dump on land, it

817
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: all ends up in the ocean, so the land is

818
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: always getting clean cleaned by the flow of water. Right,

819
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: So it actually you can and you can't get organic

820
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: fish because you can't isolate a piece of ocean because

821
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: the water. Yeah, I was in Alaska. I was in

822
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 2: Alaska one summer and we went salmon fishing, and I thought,

823
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: you know, you go up north, there's hardly any people there.

824
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: They've got PCBs and dioxins in the salmon in Alaska

825
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: and there's no way getting there's no getting around it.

826
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: So you so you can't go anywhere on the planet

827
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: where there's Omega threes are are high in the in

828
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: the animals and not get the toxicity.

829
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: And however, there are game particularly game meats tend to

830
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: be higher in Amiga threes than for instance.

831
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: Cars, right, sorry, gee and meat that game game.

832
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: So things like deer, wild deer wild wild animals tend

833
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 3: to not higher Omega.

834
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: Three ty acids in their meat than cars.

835
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: It's not about the wild meat, it's about what they eat.

836
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: Because grass is about sixty percent, like it's only zero

837
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: point one percent fat, but that fat is sixty percent

838
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: omega three, so it has more omega three than omega six.

839
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: So if you're a rabbit or a horse or a

840
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: zebra and you're eating the grass, you're getting omega threes

841
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: in the grass, and they they don't they don't eat

842
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: seeds or nuts, so they're just really getting it off

843
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: from grass. Right. So, but if you if you're growing

844
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: growing the meat commercially and you feed a corn, yes,

845
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: you know they oil in corn. The oil and corn

846
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: is eighty percent eighty percent, not eighty percent sixty sixty

847
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: plus percent omega six and less than one percent omega three.

848
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: So is what the animal eats determines to some extent

849
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: how much omega three they have. And then the ungulate

850
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: animals that have four stomachs, like the deer and the moose,

851
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: and the and the cows and the sheep and the goats,

852
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: they actually break down the omega threes and turn them

853
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: into mono unsaturated and saturated fats, so they're not really good.

854
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: Horses don't do that. So horses or omega three animals,

855
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: if you eat horse meat, you get omega threes in

856
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: it substantial substantial?

857
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

858
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: I think the part I was trying to make is

859
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: that that I see in restaurants a selling point of

860
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: green faed stick, and I think, why the hell hell

861
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: that would be? Anybody want to eat a green faed steak?

862
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: Well would they? Why would then? But why or what's

863
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: you saying? Green fed is is not grass grain? Grain?

864
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: Grain by accent? Yeah? Yeah, okay, so yeah yeah, And

865
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I say that it's a.

866
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 3: Selling part in restaurants, sort of think why the hell

867
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: would you want to eat a green fair animal as

868
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: opposed to grass fed animals?

869
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: It's stupid. The reason why they feeded grain is grain

870
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: keeps well, keeps well is cheap, right, and uh and

871
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: they use it to fatten up the animal and then

872
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: you know and then yeah, yeah so and because they

873
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: then they sell it by weight then and the guy

874
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: who then when when you buy it you're told to

875
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: cut the fat off and throw it away? I know,

876
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: why am I? Then? Why am I paying for it? Right?

877
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: So?

878
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be grass fed and it should be lean, yeah,

879
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: because that's the nature the animal. The wild animals are

880
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: mostly two to five percent body fat. If you're more

881
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: than five percent body fat you get eaten because it

882
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: slows you down when you're carrying it around.

883
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Jesus, A lot of modern humans wouldn't do

884
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: well then in unt Caother times.

885
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: We're not doing We're not doing well even in the city.

886
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: And so that's why whyden the answer.

887
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: Because we've got limited time left, I wanted to talk

888
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 3: about your framework then for overall help beyond diet. So okay,

889
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 3: So for somebody who is a very sprightly eighty three

890
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: year old, what things do you do other than all the.

891
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: Dietary stuff that we've talked about. What's your framework for help?

892
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me just give you a little bit

893
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: of the history. I got into fats because that was

894
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: the most confusing area and I had a problem that

895
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: I needed honest answers for and I got stuck on

896
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: it because of the confusion. And then I found my

897
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: way back to why people why everybody's getting the oils

898
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: wrong when they say that they're bad. No, they just

899
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: need to be properly balanced with Omega three and six.

900
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: They need to be made with health in mind. They

901
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: need to be organic, and they need to be put

902
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: in glass, and they need to be kept in the

903
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: fridge and they should never be used for frying. And

904
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: then you're optimizing your intake of the only two things

905
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: you have to have for fats, which is omega three

906
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: omega six essential fatty acids. So I got that done

907
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 2: and then I said, okay, well what do I do next?

908
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: What's the what's the next biggest problem on the planet

909
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: in terms of physical health. Oh, digestion hands down. You

910
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: know it's like either your farting or you're got diarrhea,

911
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 2: or you're constipated, or you're birching, belching your burden. You know,

912
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: your stomach hurts, you know your your breath sticks. So

913
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: there's there's got to be the second biggest. And then

914
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: what do you do there? Well, there's four things. Digestive enzymes,

915
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: because when you cook foods, you destroy the digestive enzymes

916
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: that are in raw foods that'll do about half or

917
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the digestion for you. You also kill

918
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: probiotics that are on raw foods in nature, so you

919
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: need to replace those. Then you need fiber because fiber

920
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 2: is really good for detox and bowel regularity and all

921
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: of that. Fiber. And then the fourth one is bitters.

922
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: And those are herbs and spices that support both digestion

923
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: and liver function. So I got into that, and then

924
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: the next thing, what's the next? Oh, greens. Greens are

925
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 2: really the foundation of everything. So then I got into greens,

926
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: and then I was like, okay, So then I got

927
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: into herbs and doing herbal blends for because they are

928
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: herbs that do good things for different body parts, and

929
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: we don't make what they contain. And you could call

930
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: those essential nutrients, although we have never put them in

931
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: that category, but they certainly do good things for health.

932
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: So then I got into that. And then one day

933
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: I was sitting and say, okay, well, I've kind of

934
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: like I don't need to do minerals and vitamins. Everybody's

935
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: already doing that, you know. I want to do something

936
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: that's not being done. I kind of like that that

937
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 2: edge of things. And I said, okay, well what's next?

938
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: What else affects health? Was the question I asked, And

939
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: the answer came back very quickly. It's like, well, everything

940
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: affects health, Oh my god.

941
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: You know.

942
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: So then water is one of them. And what's water? Water?

943
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: You know, hydrogenated water is a good idea or electalized water,

944
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: alkaline acid water. So there's a lot of things you

945
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: can do with water and air. You know, I used

946
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: to there was a time when I used to wake

947
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: up with with my finger joints hurt every morning, and

948
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: then I could just wiggle them around and improve the

949
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: circulation and they would go away. And then one day

950
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: I thought, wait, if that's from acidity, because inflammation acidity

951
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: causes inflammation, then I wonder what will happen if I

952
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: just do some deep breathing when I wake up. So

953
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: instead of wiggling my fingers to make it go away,

954
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: I just lay still and went and yet it's here

955
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: about five breaths and the pain was gone. Oh okay,

956
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: So then I got started thinking about that. But then

957
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: I started thinking about, well, okay, if everything affects health,

958
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: so we're not still not because health is not just

959
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: physical either, Then what are you thinking. If you're depressed,

960
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: you knock down your immune system. You can actually get

961
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: cancer from depression, and and in cancer, depression is very

962
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: common and sometimes when people get over their depression their

963
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: cancer goes by by too. Right, So what you think

964
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: affects health, who you hang out with affects health. You

965
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: know when we were played soccer as kids and they'd

966
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: miss the ball and kick us in the shins by accident,

967
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: you know, we would get so angry because of bloody hurt, right,

968
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: and we would yell, you make me sick. Right, So,

969
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: even as kids, we knew that other people affect their health.

970
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: So how do you deal with that? Well, you don't

971
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: hang out with people who keep putting you down, you know,

972
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: and don't put down people because when you put them

973
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: down makes you sick to right, So hang out in

974
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: a more positive place. Look for the encouragement, look for

975
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: self encourage encouragement, right, So you got to give that

976
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: some attention. And then energy affects health. In fact, your life,

977
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: you know what? What what is your life? Your life

978
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: is the thing that when it separates from your body,

979
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: your body's finished life runs your entire body.

980
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: Put it.

981
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: No, it's not ATP. ATP is a carrier for it.

982
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: I'm talking about light. Life ATP carries energy and then

983
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: runs it down the cascades. Right, But we have never

984
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: looked in biology. We never studied life. We studied ATP.

985
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: We never got to handle on life. So what is life?

986
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: Life is a fraction of solar energy. Because solar energy

987
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: runs everything on the planet, like everything living, everything in nature, right,

988
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: So it's filtered through ninety three million miles, then it's

989
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: filtered through the atmosphere. Then it's filtered through plants. They

990
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: dump the green light. That's why plants are green, because

991
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: it's it's reflecting that light back out. But the light

992
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: fraction that remains, the solar energy fraction that remains activates electrons.

993
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: They jump orbits, they become active. They then bond with

994
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: other electrons to make bonds between between atoms to make molecules.

995
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: Then we eat those as food and in ourselves those

996
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: bonds get broken, the solar energy stored in those bonds

997
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: is released. Now we call it life, and that life

998
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: energy its nature is unconditional, empowering love for the body.

999
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: That energy is also omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient in your body.

1000
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: That energy is also the master in of forour and

1001
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: throughout your body. And that energy is also perfect health.

1002
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: That energy never gets sick, never dies because it's formless

1003
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: to begin with. So the only way that we can

1004
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: derail the energy is by what we think. That gives

1005
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: direction to what we do in our energy. We do

1006
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: bad habits from the way we think, and we can

1007
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: block energies free flow in our body through negative thinking

1008
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: in a way. And then one more we got to

1009
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: go one more deeper, and the deepest part of every

1010
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: human being is pure awareness. Like if you say, okay,

1011
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: well you're looking at me through the computer, right and

1012
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: here I am with my you know, so you can

1013
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: see me here. So my question is who sees me?

1014
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: Who is doing the seeing when you see me? Who

1015
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: is the you that sees Is it your eyeballs? Nope?

1016
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: Is it your brain? Nope? That's what they say in

1017
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: the material world, but it's not actually not true. Is

1018
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: it your life energy that sees me? No? Is it

1019
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: your mind that sees me? Nope. What sees me is

1020
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: the foundation of your existence, your universal essence, which is

1021
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: pure awareness. Pure awareness has no content, but has the

1022
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: potential for everything. And if you want to if you

1023
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: want to do science, or you want to chase truth,

1024
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: you have to chase it from that place. By the way,

1025
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: the most interesting or the most humanly valuable attribute of

1026
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: that pure awareness is peace, and is peace as an experience.

1027
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: And when you can be aware of being aware, then

1028
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: you're in a place that was never born, that will

1029
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: never die, and that has a focus in the core

1030
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: of your being. That's your access to it. But from

1031
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: there it goes all the way out to infinity. And

1032
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: does that affect health? You bet, piece affects health. Contentment

1033
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: offfects health. Oneness effects health, never get sick, never dies,

1034
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: it's beyond life and death even Okay, so now you've

1035
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: got to go the other way. Environment affects your health.

1036
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: If you ship in your nest, you will nest in

1037
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: your ship. Right, summarizes every every I use it. I

1038
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: know it's crude, but I use that because it summarizes

1039
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: every every environmental issue.

1040
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: And then the last one, that's a really good quote. Actually,

1041
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: if you ship in your nasty nest in your ship.

1042
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know where I got that. I was on

1043
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: the beach. Somebody had carved that in letters, like a

1044
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: foot long, foot high and about two inches deep. It

1045
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: carved that into in a long log. Ship in your

1046
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: nest to nest in your ship. It's like, wow, Wow,

1047
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: that really covers it.

1048
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: The chickens didn't get the bloody mammo there. You know

1049
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: which chickens, chickens, chickens. They sh the nerd asked all the.

1050
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: Time, but that's only because we confine them. Yeah, pigs

1051
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: don't like the live in their own ship either. Pigs

1052
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: are very clean in nature, So yeah, we put them

1053
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: in a pen where they can't go anywhere and leave

1054
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: the ship behind. Yeah, then the ship, and then we

1055
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: blame the pigs. Yeah, it's like, come on anyway, So

1056
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: then we we have one two more to go. One

1057
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: is the fact that you, your body is a terminal condition.

1058
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: No matter how healthy you are, your body is a

1059
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: terminal condition. Living in an infinite universe and being okay

1060
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: with that, and and and then and then getting present,

1061
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: fully present in the space your body occupies. That's where

1062
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: your peace, your love, your inspiration, your your you know,

1063
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: that's where everything is. Right. When you feel happy, you

1064
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: feel it inside. When you feel loved by someone, you

1065
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: feel it inside. You know, the love's not on the outside,

1066
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: it's like it's all in you. Right, So you have

1067
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: you Okay, you're going to do the you do whatever

1068
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: you can. You feel content, So you're going to do

1069
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: the best you can to do as much good as

1070
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: you can in the time that you have. Right, because

1071
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 2: when you feel cared for, it's not about you anymore.

1072
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: So then it's like, okay, where can I help? You

1073
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: know what needs to be done? You know, how can

1074
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: I make the biggest splash for good in the time

1075
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: I have. Then your life is simple because it's not

1076
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: about you anymore. But you've got to sit with yourself

1077
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: and do the homework to get into that full presence right.

1078
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Speaker 2: And then the last one is emotions. Nobody knows what

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Speaker 2: emotions are except I know. Emotions are a composite of

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Speaker 2: all the other nine. Like if the piece goes missing

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Speaker 2: your your emotions are affected. If you don't feel loved,

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01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: your emotions are affected. You know, if you think stupid things,

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01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: your emotions are affected.

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Speaker 1: And so your.

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Speaker 2: Emotions are a measure of the stint to which you

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Speaker 2: live in alignment with those other nine. And the idea

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01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: is that when you get out of alignment with each

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Speaker 2: one of them, there's a consequence in quality of life,

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Speaker 2: and when you get back in line, you get back

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Speaker 2: whatever it is that you lose when you get out

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Speaker 2: of line. So that's the that's the health, that's the

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01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: that's that's how health works. Like if you want to

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Speaker 2: take total health, total health, you need to get you

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Speaker 2: need to give each one of those ten parts there

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Speaker 2: do how many people do that? Hardly anybody sits still

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Speaker 2: long enough. Hardly anybody spends enough time in their own

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01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: space with themselves to get to know what this is,

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: because it's all, you know, it's all just like what

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Speaker 2: what it's dust? You know, a handful of dust, three

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01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: buckets of water. You know, a little bit of air,

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of gas, a little bit of a

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: fraction of sunshine, and it's mixed up in an such

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: an incredible fashion that you dust, water and air get

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Speaker 2: to have the human experience. And dust can't do that,

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01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: and water can't do that, and air can't do it.

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Speaker 2: But when they're put together in this unbelievably amazing way,

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01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: you get all that. And you get to sing and

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01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 2: you get to dance, and you get to be depressed

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01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: and you get to be happy, and you get to

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: have sex, and you get to watch children grow, and

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: you get to watch sunsets, and you know, you get

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Speaker 2: I mean everything that, I mean, all of it is.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you were religious, you'd call it divine,

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Speaker 2: all of it. You know, even if you have to

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: go pooh and you really gotta oh that feels does

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Speaker 2: not no, no, I mean seriously right, and then and

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01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: then you go right and it feels good, right, same,

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: you gotta go pee. Same if you're tired, if you're dead, tired,

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: feels so good, right, everything everything, if you don't judge

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Speaker 2: it and just experience it and just be present to

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Speaker 2: it and just be aware of it. There's nothing in

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Speaker 2: a human life that isn't divinely inspired, you know, whatever

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: On that note, we do have to wrap this up

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Speaker 1: because I have another meeting. I've got to go to work.

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Speaker 3: Can so thank you for sharing all of your knowledge

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: and your research around That's where can people go to

1128
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 3: find out more about you and your offerings and books

1129
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: and products and all that.

1130
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Speaker 2: I have a website, udo erasmus dot com. I have

1131
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Speaker 2: a huge YouTube channel. I'm on Facebook, I'm on Instagram,

1132
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: I'm on LinkedIn. I'm i am starting in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting two projects. One is to turn human nature

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Speaker 2: into a teachable field. We have not done that for

1135
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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand years, or even those guys who made

1136
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: the tools two point four million years ago that you

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01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: were talking about. We have never turned human nature into

1138
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Speaker 2: teachable field. It's like, what the hell is wrong? With us,

1139
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? We know more about

1140
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,919
Speaker 2: our watches and our gadgets and our and our hobbies

1141
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: than we know about ourselves. That's why we don't have peace,

1142
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Speaker 2: That's why we don't have contentment. That's why we're all

1143
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: over the map killing each other. That's how stupid we are,

1144
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,879
Speaker 2: right or not stupid, ignorant? You know, we're not stupid.

1145
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: We're really clever in the way we kill ourselves. No,

1146
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: but we're ignorant because we're ignoring what we actually are.

1147
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Speaker 2: And then the second thing, total health based in nature

1148
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Speaker 2: and human nature. So those are the two two projects

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Speaker 2: I'm starting those. I'm going to turn all of my

1150
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Speaker 2: all my my social presences into doing that because I'm

1151
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Speaker 2: eighty three, and I figure it's about time somebody did this.

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Speaker 3: And I love that you're eighty three, you're making plans

1153
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: for the future, because yeah, yeah, I one of it's

1154
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 3: one of the biggest predictors of longevity. People who talk

1155
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Speaker 3: about the past a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's right, I can't die. I can't. I got it

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: I got yeah, that's right. I love it. I love it,

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Speaker 1: absolutely love it. You know, this has been awesome, So

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Speaker 1: thank you for your time and we will put all

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Speaker 1: of those links.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know that it takes one to know one, right,

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Speaker 2: what's that? Well, you know that it takes one to

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Speaker 2: know one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you think this was awesome, right, it takes one

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Speaker 2: to know one, you go, that's like that's like back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. The rest of your day in Vancouver,

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Speaker 1: good man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and to enjoy the time you spend hanging

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Speaker 2: from the planet.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed to chet all right, thank you