WEBVTT - Sharri | 3 June 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:10.640 Showing good evening well first tonight, Peter Dutton says he 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:15.320 suspects police officers have been instructed not to arrest pro 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:20.280 Palestinian protesters for hate speech. I've done an exclusive interview 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.440 with the opposition leader where he says that journalists at 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:28.760 the ABC have been acting as activists. He also said 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.919 that university chancellors should be named and shamed for failing 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.200 to stamp out anti Semitism. But some of his strongest 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.559 comments were for the Prime Minister himself and also on 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:45.479 the question of why law enforcement has been so has 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.680 been so reluctant to actually enforce the law when it 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.720 comes to hate speech. Peter Dutton, who's a former coop himself, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.680 says it would be frustrating for police not to be 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.720 able to take strong action when they see violence, unrest 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:05.640 and lawlessness on our streets and in our university campuses. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.920 There's no doubt in my mind that for the average 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.240 police officer that this would be completely and utterly offensive 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.400 as well to be told to stand back with your 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:17.120 hands in your pocket. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:18.959 So do you think they are being told that. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.880 These No doubt in my mind, because their instinct would 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.160 be that if they saw somebody breaking the law. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.680 Setting Fie into a flag for example, Yes. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.640 That they would enforce the law. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.200 Now. I did this extensive forty five minute interview with 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.720 Peter Dutton last night at an event to raise money 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:42.119 for JCA, which funds security for Jewish schools. Now, Peter 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.360 Dutton's view is that under the current law people could 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.240 have been arrested for hate speech both at the Opera 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:53.800 House protest and at protests on university campuses. Now, even 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.480 the Prime Minister has said that chance of inter Fada 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.360 and from the River to the Sea have no place 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.080 in our cuntry. But the Opera House protests had worse 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:08.280 racist chance of where's the Jews? F the Jews? And 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:13.040 despite police denials, what many people heard gas the Jews. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.760 There is existing scope within the current. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:21.880 Law for some of these people to have been arrested 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.840 either on the steps of the Opera House on the 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.880 university campuses, and they haven't been. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.200 Could I clarify arrested for hate speech? 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.919 Yes, yes, and everything is in context. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.120 But if you look at the chance and the intimidation 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.760 that's taken place, I don't accept that is not against 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.679 Australian law. And the fact that the police have been 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:50.240 told either by the police ministers or they're taking a 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.640 lead from what they see through the Prime Minister's commentary 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.560 or lack of it, that they're just there to maintain 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.880 the peace. This is just another Middle Eastern frakkar and 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:05.240 that we don't want to take sides and let's just 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:11.119 allow people to protest. That is a complete and utter 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.960 outrage and I think most Australians are outraged by the 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.000 inaction as well. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.640 Very strong comments. Now there will be a federal election 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:25.160 held inside the next eleven months. Dutton said if he 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.680 were Prime Minister, he would tell the head of the 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:32.919 afp ASIO and other law enforcement agencies to be strong 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:37.119 and actually enforce the law. That there shouldn't be some 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.000 carve out of the law just because the topic relates 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.600 to Israel and the Middle East. Dutton said that if 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.280 there are concerns about the law, that shouldn't stop authorities 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.520 from enforcing it. Instead, test it, he says, and if 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.080 it needs to be changed, will then change it. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:04:01.640 In times of tragedy uncertainty, the leader of our country 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.480 has to stand up and I think had I've been 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.920 Prime Minister at the time, not I think I would 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.360 have made it very clear to the Australian Federal Police Commissioner, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.039 to the Director General of ASIO, to the police commissioners 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.600 otherwise that I had zero tolerance for this behavior and 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.000 conduct and that the police should. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:26.000 Enforce the law without hesitation, not go beyond the law. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.520 And if the argument is that. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:34.559 Some elements of the current legislation are unconstitutional, that should 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:35.920 have been tested before the courts. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:37.440 Now. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.440 Australia's former ambassador to Israel, Dave Sharma, who's now a 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.640 Liberal senator, well, he also spoke at this event for 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.200 THEJCA last night and he backed up Peter Dutton on 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.039 the need to actually use the hate laws against people 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.159 who break them and breach the peace. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.680 The first step in doing that is at least to 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.280 test that if the law's found to be wanting here, well, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.000 then we can fix the laws now. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:07.240 Peter Darton also criticized journalists out the Public Broadcaster for 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:12.600 being activists. The ABC has not covered the anti semitism 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.960 our country is facing in any in depth way. Whils 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.160 Sky News has produced an entire documentary with Josh Fredenberg, 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.480 along with nightly coverage on each of our primetime programs. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:31.560 It's simply incomprehensible that the ABC hasn't properly covered this 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.520 antisemitism crisis. Well, here's what Peter Dutton said about the 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.000 ABC and Fairfacts last night. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:44.160 I think the ABC and you could rattle off half 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:51.400 a dozen others are full now of these protesters and 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:57.600 advocates and they allow their own emotion and political ideology 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.960 to overtake their objectivity as a journalist. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.640 And I think, as you pointed out for. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:13.160 The News, Stable and Sky have been without compromise, and 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.640 you contrast that to what we've seen in nine. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.120 Papers or Fairfax. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:25.800 There is always a divide, but the abrogation here I 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.799 think highlights the real problem that we've got within parts 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:34.360 of the media that don't have that objectivity, and it's 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.760 going to be a feature ongoing. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.880 On university campuses, we've seen young Australian Jews have to 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:46.159 face hatred and aggression and anger from protesters on a 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.359 daily basis. They've been videos posted to social media of 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.560 activists saying they're going to chase Zionists of campus, and 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.040 a professor was exposed by The Australian just last week 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.640 for wrongly saying that the sexual violence of October seven 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.000 was a hoax. Well, I asked mister Darton about all 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.960 of this last night, and he said, university chancellors should 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.520 be named and shamed. Have a look. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:20.040 The level lough of capitulation and frankly facilitation of the 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.800 anti Semitism, or almost the encouragement of it through the inaction, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.760 the lack of leadership from not just the chancellors and 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.840 the vice chancellors, but frankly the senior leadership within the 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.800 universities as well. Who should all be publicly named and shamed. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:35.400 We do this to. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.120 Because there's a scrutiny from time to time on CEOs 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.080 or chairs or board members of particular companies. We should 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:48.920 be asking these people how on earth they justified what 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.880 has happened and what, in some cases is still happening. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.240 How is it conceivable that you would ask some of 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.760 these people to sit around the table with you to 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.440 make future decisions, as you say, in relation to the 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.560 direction of the university, when these people have been shouting 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.080 from the river to the sea or a father of 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.840 the harassment and the language toward young women on campus. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.080 These same people who would be. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:24.320 Lecturing on pronouns and gender policy, somehow their mind turns 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:29.760 blank because that young girl is Jewish and I find 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:30.920 it reprehensible. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.600 On the question of immigration, Peter Dutton said he thought 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:40.760 it was incomprehensible that the Albanezy government was bringing Palestinians 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.439 from the front line of the war zone into Australia 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:49.360 without adequate security screening, and he spoke about when he 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.240 helped the Zdi women enter the country during the wave 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:57.040 of ISIS terror and how it took weeks to conduct 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.280 biometric screening using data held US intelligence. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.280 I think the migration program should be in our best 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.360 interest and if we're bringing people in, for example, I've 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.000 been critical of the Prime Minister's decision to bring in 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.960 literally thousands of people from Gaza during the. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.439 Course of a war, it's beyond my comprehension. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.840 It does take time the weeks that you were talking 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:23.520 about before you can get confirmation back. And if we're 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.360 bringing people in from a war zone at the moment 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:32.520 with uncertainty around identification or background or motivation and those 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.440 checks haven't been done, then I think it's a complete 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.400 abrogation and I think it puts out country and certainly 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.840 the Jewish community at even higher risk. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.360 Well, there's a lot of commentary about whether Dutton has 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.439 a shot at winning the next election. Alban Easy is 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.080 facing a detainee crisis and he's refused to accept his 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:56.280 immigration minister isn't keeping our country safe. He's also presiding 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.480 over a cost of living crisis with families when both 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.680 parents work, struggling to afford housing and some are even 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.440 living in cars. At the same time, Albanesi has been 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.920 criticized for high levels of immigration that have put even 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:17.199 more pressure on the rental crisis in Australia. Despite failing 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:22.000 in almost every policy area, Albanizi is expected to win 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.640 more seats than the coalition at the next election. Many 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:30.280 polls predict a minority government or a hung parliament. Well 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.320 I asked Peter Dutton his own assessment of whether he 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.280 could win the next election. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.200 Even though the first term government hasn't lost since nineteen 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.560 thirty one, that the best outcome from a Labor Party 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:46.319 perspective is that they could form a minority government which 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.199 would include the Greens and the Tials and potentially, as 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:54.280 you say, Muslim independent candidates from Western Sydney or perhaps 0:10:54.520 --> 0:11:01.000 elsewhere in Melbourne, for example. The reality of that is 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.240 that yes, they would be compromised even further in terms 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:05.000 of their stance. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.840 And I think as. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.400 We saw during the period of the Gillard government, where 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:16.800 there was formal compact with the Greens, there was a 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.080 drag to the left and I think that is at 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.600 odds with where most Australians are at. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.760 And he spoke about how most Australians just want to 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:30.760 improve the lives for themselves and their children. Pretty basic. Well, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.600 Duta needs to win nineteen seats to form majority government. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.560 He acknowledged the challenge ahead, but said he believes he 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.400 can get there. So nineteen seats, do you think you 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:43.559 can get there? 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.320 And how The short answer is yes, I do. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.880 And as I say, twelve months ago, people weren't contemplating 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.560 anything other than a second term and perhaps a third 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.920 term for the Albanesi government. We need to make sure 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.040 that we have the policies, we have the candidates, and 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:07.280 that we can communicate that effectively. And I believe very 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.280 strongly when you go seat by seat, when you look 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.160 at our prospects around the country, as we did in 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.079 twenty sixteen, or as John Howard did in nineteen ninety six, 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.319 there are opportunities for us in Western Australia opportunities for 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.680 us in South Australia, certainly in New South Wales, in 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.320 Western Sydney and the Central Coast, and he went. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.440 On to outline the areas where he thinks he can 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.360 pick up many seats. Dutton spoke about his concerns that 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.320 the Albaneze government would form an alliance with the Greens, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.480 where you heard some of those remarks already, but he 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.640 really does worry about where this would lead the country 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.080 because in some of his strongest remarks on the Greens yet, 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.480 Peter Dutton said that Adam Bant leads a party of hate, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.000 and Dutton went so far as to call the Greens 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:55.720 an anti Semitic party. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:01.440 There is a real danger if that were scenario that 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.280 somebody like Adam band who is running an anti Semitic party, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.800 they're a party of hatred, and that they would be 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:13.520 in government. I think is a shocking consideration, but that 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.040 is one of the prospects after the next election. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.880 In the meantime, under Labor, Australia's relationship with Israel has 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.280 fractured in a major way. There's immense dissatisfaction with Australia's 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:30.959 foreign policy. Since October seven from Israel's perspective, and this 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.280 is at the very highest levels of the Israeli government. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:35.079 Well. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:39.880 Peter Dartton pointed to the importance of Australia's relationship with Israel. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.959 He said as Defense and Home Affairs Minister, he received 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:49.000 intelligence from Israel over a long period of time, intelligence 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.959 that resulted in the thwarting of terror attacks and lives 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.920 being saved. He said that rebuilding that trust would be 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.240 a priority if he were Prime Minister. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.080 The relationship has been long standing and it's in our 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.600 mutual interest for us to rebuild that relationship which has 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.640 been damaged. There's no question of that, and I think 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:15.040 we need to apply ourselves to that. And when I 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:19.760 think of my colleagues here today in Julian Or Sarah Holly, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:25.120 Dave Sharma, others, James Patterson, many others, I know that 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:31.160 in government we could in very quick fashion really reassert 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:35.480 ourselves into the relationship and make sure that it grew 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.920 with the strength that it needs to in a very 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:38.520 quick time. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.400 So Peter Dutton there were saying all of the shadow 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.680 Coalition ministers who were at the event, the JCA event 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:51.040 to raise money for the Jewish community, including to provide 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:55.200 security for Jewish schools. Now. He mentioned there Sarah Henderson, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:15:00.520 Holly Hughes and others Julie and Lisa Dave Sharma who 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.280 were all there to support the JCA at a state level. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.240 Kelly Sloane was also there. Can you imagine? Can you 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:11.880 even think of four or five or six members of 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.000 the Albanese labor government who would turn up to a 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.280 Jewish fundraiser nothing about Israel, a Jewish fundraiser to help 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.680 raise money for Jewish security. I couldn't name five myself. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.000 I would love to be proved wrong. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:27.120 Now. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.080 Last night, some of Peter Dutton's most cutting remarks were 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.680 reserved for the Prime Minister himself. After viewing comments that 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.840 Anthony Alberzi has made in the Parliament over the years 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.520 on Israel, Peter Dutton accused him of taking an anti 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:49.280 Israel stance throughout his career for political purposes, and Peter 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.000 Dutton was brutal. 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.400 Our assumption has been show as you pointed out before, 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.440 that this is all about Penny Wong's influence and that 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.920 Anthony Alberanze has taken direction is subservient to in the conversations, 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:07.520 Penny Wong's views. But it's obvious that Anthony Albernezi either 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:12.160 had a heavy influence at university or and more likely 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:18.200 in my judgment, he's very early on in his parliamentary career. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.320 Decided that to hold his seat of Graindler, he needs 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.920 to have this particular view. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.920 And in my mind, I say to school kids, as 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:32.160 we go around to speak to the school children in our. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.600 Electorates, they are good and bad on both sides of politics. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:42.160 But people who sell out their values, their beliefs, or 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:46.280 indeed their country for cheap political gain, I think of 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.120 the worst people in our business. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.760 Now. Also tonight, Albanezi exposed why he couldn't call out 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.720 the Upper House protest because as an MP, he yelled 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.720 into a megaphone at a protest where flags were burned 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.399 during the second into FATA. I'll show you this vision 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.400 of the PM tonight. Also, Labor accused of lying over 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:16.119 its use of drones to keep detainees in check. The 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:21.000 protection racket over Andrew Giles reaches its peak, and you 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:26.840 won't believe how much Bill Shotten's news speechwriter is being paid. First, now, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.880 let's take this to tonight's panel Sky News host Liz 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.359 Storer and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand. Welcome to you. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.040 Hello now, Liz, you were there at this event last 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.080 night where I interviewed Peter Dutton. What did you think 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.480 were some of his strongest remarks, because in my view 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.800 that interview was extraordinary. He didn't hold back, is not 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:52.159 afraid to criticize the ABC, the university chancellors. You know 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.000 that it's the opposite of the weakness that we've seen 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:55.919 from the Prime minister. 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.119 He was very emphatic and by the way, congratulations on 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.879 a real brilliant event. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:02.000 It was a packed our. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.840 The only struggle was you guys getting a word in 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:05.720 edgeways over. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.080 The constant applause. 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:12.400 But this was so there wasn't a single week statement 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.840 out of Dutton. He is emphatic and this is the 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.320 kind of leadership the people are craving because we are 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.919 simply not seeing it from the Albanese government. There's not 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.720 a single minister that you can roll out that people say. 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:30.320 They are comprehensive, they are strong, they are full of conviction. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.240 We're just not seeing that. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.280 So Dunton stepping into the breach and the interview that 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.960 he gave last night, on every single topic, particularly when 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.320 he was talking about the fact that, as a former 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.719 police officer himself, he believes the current police are being 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.280 gagged as it were, they're having their hands tied behind 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:54.800 their backs because we everyday people watching these protests, particularly 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.280 what happened on October the ninth on the steps of 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:01.160 the Opera House, just wringing our hands, going how can 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.600 this possibly happen? We do have laws, we do have 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.040 law enforcement. This mob is about to blow and in 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.159 fact the New South Wales Police are very lucky that 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:16.320 it didn't because we were seeing animalistic behavior on display. 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.480 Flags were being burnt, the chance are not to be repeated, 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.560 and yet no order to send in the stored and 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.520 troopers and cut this thing off at its inception, and 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.240 him explaining that as a former police officer saying there 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.760 is no doubt in my mind, he said that these 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.800 orders to stand down and just don't do anything when 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:45.800 we're seeing scenes like that, that is terrifying for everyone 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:46.159 to know. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.800 Joe, what do you think I mean? This is you know, 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.960 Dutton's really emerging from Michelle and he's coming swinging. 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.240 Yeah, no, that's very much you know, that's very much 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.160 his thing. Obviously, he's renowned as a sort of tough 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.439 guy politician and him very much personally. I think a 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.920 lot of the certainly that the protests at the Opera 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.400 House were an embarrassment to the police force and rather 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.480 the leadership. You know, the police Minister obviously and the 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:14.639 police force were blindsided by it and escalated much faster 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.720 than they were able to respond to it. They should 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:18.680 have been much tougher, and I think that's very very clear, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.560 and I think there you had very very clear examples 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.840 of hate speech which could and should have been acted on, 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.280 and in many ways that failure did give I think, 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.919 some license to the future protests that we saw. But 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.720 the Premier Christmians, to his credit, has admitted that was 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.520 a mistake. He has been very much absolutely that's right, 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:38.320 and so's. 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.800 Dozens comments so on on the ABC because that's not 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.760 going to win in friends on the left side. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.320 No, but he doesn't happen here and they beat him 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.119 up anyway, so he's got nothing to lose there, and 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.040 again he's got nothing to lose by being very very 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.639 tough on this issue, and you know, good on him 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.640 for being so. The abs I couldn't help but notice 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:58.240 in the very long, fourteen hundred word essay that Laura 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:02.280 Tingle wrote in to justify her statement that Australia was 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.840 a racist country. That one of the examples she cited 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.919 as proof of this, almost in an oblique way, was 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.480 The Australian's coverage of the anti Semitism in the community. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.600 And I thought, well, if you're so outrageous about that, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.359 why hasn't the ABC done a documentary on it, or 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.840 rather why didn't you raise anti semitism as an example 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.600 of egregious Australian racism at the Sydney Writers Festival. I 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.080 think we know why, because she would have been held down. 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.919 And again I think that just goes to sort of 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.920 point to the double said. To be honest, I thought 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:37.680 that was quite a sort of galling comment given that 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.800 given the purposes you're speaking to, and in terms of 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.760 the university campuses, I think that is a bit of 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.600 a different scene. I can absolutely promise you that certainly 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.760 the Sydney University Vice Chancellor Mark Scott and his team 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:50.959 they do not want the protests, that they do not 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.320 like it one little bit. Their concern is under what 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.679 particular auspice do they move mine generally speaking, State police 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.520 do not patrol university campuses, so how do you get 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:01.240 rid of them? 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.879 Sure, many lawyers could help them find a way, but 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.680 let's move on now. Billionaire James Packer has weighed into 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:11.639 the crisis in golfing the Nine network, telling the Australian 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.240 newspapers James Madden that the chair Peter Costello and I 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:19.000 quote hasn't been good for shareholders. I think being chairman 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:21.480 of nine is all he has left and he will 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.600 try and keep the job for as long as he can. 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.760 Liz Packer's intervention is fascinating in this debate because there 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.119 haven't been too many people who are actually prepared to 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:37.560 publicly criticize Costello, even though they are very critical in private. Yeah. 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.760 Well there's no love loss between those two at this point, 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.360 as most people would know. But his reference to shareholders 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.800 obviously is quite practical. I mean it has dropped nine 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:54.080 cents since Costello took the chair back into twenty sixteen. 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.680 Friday saw them with the. 0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:00.600 Lowest price for their shares that then had seen in 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.879 four years, So that was more of a practical point out. 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.359 But you're quite right in saying he didn't even need 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.879 to say anything, really but he couldn't pass up the 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.320 opportunity to have a well deserved dig. 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.480 And now let's turn to form a Treasurer Josh Fridenberg. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.680 There's been a lot of speculation about whether he would 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.240 run again for his old seat of Kuyong at the 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:27.320 next election after redistribution on Friday took in the majority 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.000 of the old seat of Higgins. But today Josh Fridenberg 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:34.560 cold water on this. He posted on x or Twitter 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.440 that I am not rushing back to politics. My position 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:41.560 on contesting the next election remains unchanged. I will continue 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:47.960 to support the Liberal Party and our local candidate Amelia Hammer. Now, Joe, Look, 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.679 Josh has made the decision here that he wants to 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.240 continue to spend time with his family. Is enjoying spending 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.520 a lot of time with his kids being a footy coach. 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.760 But what really bothered me is that, you know, the 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.359 second there might have been a suggestion that he was 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.480 going to come back, there was this outBut of anger 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.159 from women's groups that how dare the former treasure the 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.000 tublish politician in the country want to come back to 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.800 politics in a winnable sit oh, because it might mean 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:18.880 that a woman doesn't have her job. 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.320 Come on, well, I think I suppose this is where 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.520 you get sort of identity politics reaches peak stupidity. And yes, 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.320